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  • ‘Product of Canada’ Label, US Company Inside: Shoppers Stunned by the Search for Truly Canadian Goods

    On a Canadian discussion board, as the boycott of American products continues, users have been debating how to spot “truly Canadian” goods. The popular pancake mix “Pearl Milling Company” was labeled “Product of Canada,” but it turned out to be a brand owned by U.S. giant PepsiCo, sparking widespread distrust of product labeling. Commenters shared the difference between the “Made in Canada” and “Product of Canada” standards, along with tips on genuinely domestic alternatives.

    1Anonymous2026-08-26 20:46
    Looking for Canadian-made products
    Pearl Milling is a Canadian company. I've been using it since the tariff war started. Tastes just as good. So here we are again, flipping over boxes checking for 'Product of USA.'
    2Anonymous2026-08-26 21:40
    Learned a lot from this thread, thanks everyone. So you're saying a product can say 'Product of Canada' and still be owned by a US company? How are Canadians supposed to tell the difference??
    15Anonymous2026-08-26 23:57
    There's a site called Madeinca.ca that does pretty thorough research for you — just type in the product name. It doesn't cover everything, but someone else in the thread also posted a good method for looking things up yourself.
    35Anonymous2026-08-27 02:51
    Honestly, I think the best move is to just not buy this kind of product at all. Buy Canadian flour made from Canadian wheat and make your own pancakes instead of this ultra-processed stuff.
    3Anonymous2026-08-26 20:51
    Pearl Milling Company is a PepsiCo brand, so I don't think it's especially 'Canadian' compared to other brands. No Name and President's Choice are Loblaws' private labels, so those are arguably more of a Canadian company (even if the actual manufacturer might be American).
    12Anonymous2026-08-26 20:53
    At least they have a plant in Canada and employ Canadians, I'd think.
    19Anonymous2026-08-26 21:01
    Took this photo at No Frills today. Pearl Milling was the only one labeled 'Product of Canada' — every other brand said 'Product of USA.'
    4Anonymous2026-08-26 21:18
    Pearl Milling Company's products are literally just Aunt Jemima with a new name.
    6Anonymous2026-08-26 21:33
    Huh, I looked into it a bit. Wait, seriously?? 'Product of Canada' doesn't mean what we all thought it meant. I think we need a new rule — 'Product of Canada' should have to mean 'Canadian company.' Thanks everyone for the info, this genuinely helped!
    5Anonymous2026-08-27 01:08
    Googled this real quick, hope it helps with your choices. 'Made in Canada' means at least 51% of the production cost was incurred in Canada and the last substantial transformation happened here. 'Product of Canada,' on the other hand, requires that 98% of the ingredients and processing be Canadian.
    8Anonymous2026-08-26 21:49
    Pancake mix is easy to make ahead yourself. Just buy local ingredients and mix them together.
    17Anonymous2026-08-26 22:20
    Agreed on that. But now is the 'Product of Canada' flour I buy actually Canadian? I'm starting to realize that just because it says 'Product of Canada' doesn't mean the profits are actually going to Canada…
    27Anonymous2026-08-26 22:39
    Is Bulk Barn a safe bet?
    36Anonymous2026-08-27 04:06
    Found flour at my local Save-On from a mill about 100km away. There's also a store where you can get flour from another mill within 200km. If you're serious about going local, it's worth hunting for stuff like this.
    10Anonymous2026-08-26 22:29
    Habitant went downhill, it's pretty bad now — no great loss.
    16Anonymous2026-08-26 22:32
    Agreed. If you want a genuinely Canadian soup brand, check out Sprague. It's fairly easy to find. You might have to check a few stores, but more and more of them have started carrying it since all this started.
    11Anonymous2026-08-26 21:09
    There's also Farine Five Roses, out of Montreal.
    13Anonymous2026-08-26 22:16
    'Product of Canada' just means 'made in Canada,' nothing more. By that definition, even Pepsi counts as 'Product of Canada' — the Pepsi sold here is made at a Canadian plant, but that plant is owned by PepsiCo.
    24Anonymous2026-08-27 00:20
    So that just means part of the process happened in Canada. For Canadians who actually want to buy something where the packaging, manufacturing, growing, and shipping are all done entirely in Canada, there's no way to know that from the label.
    14Anonymous2026-08-26 22:16
    Agreed. But finding out the profits are actually flowing to the US even though the package says 'Product of Canada'? That's a real 'wait, what?' moment.
    18Anonymous2026-08-27 01:00
    Thanks for the info. It's disappointing that some grocery stores are still giving American products such prime shelf space.
    20Anonymous2026-08-26 22:17
    It varies by product, so you just have to read the label. Same with Shoppers' Life Brand — some items are made in Canada (the parent company, Loblaws, is Canadian), while others are made in the US or elsewhere.
    28Anonymous2026-08-26 20:51
    Wait, are No Name and President's Choice made in America?
    29Anonymous2026-08-26 23:59
    At the end of the day, it's just rich people who want to Americanize everything lining their pockets.
    30Anonymous2026-08-26 20:59
    Went to No Frills today. Everything except Pearl Milling was labeled 'Product of Canada.' One said 'Packaged in Canada,' but it still said 'Product of USA' too.
    21Anonymous2026-08-26 22:22
    We need a new label. It should show 'who actually profits from this product.'
    25Anonymous2026-08-27 00:16
    Right, whether it's a Canadian billionaire profiting or an American one.
    22Anonymous2026-08-26 23:48
    Can't speak for all Canadians, but personally, if I know something's Canadian-made, I'll pay a bit more for it.
    37Anonymous2026-08-27 03:58
    I think that's fair. I'm not judging anyone whose budget is tight and price has to come first. But if it's the same price, or just a few cents difference, I'd hope people choose Canadian.
    42Anonymous2026-08-26 23:15
    Let's all just say it together: 'you buy what you can afford.' Not everyone has the wiggle room to pay extra for Canadian products.
    23Anonymous2026-08-27 00:39
    Nice, I like that you're actually doing something about it.
    31Anonymous2026-08-26 21:11
    You wrote 'everything except Pearl Milling was Product of Canada' — didn't you mean 'Product of USA'?
    32Anonymous2026-08-26 21:14
    Yes! Oops, I got it backwards. Everything except Pearl Milling was 'Product of USA.' Thanks for the correction!
    33Anonymous2026-08-27 00:42
    Bulk Barn is a Canadian company, but you have to check to know where the actual product comes from. They used to label country of origin — not sure if they still do.
    34Anonymous2026-08-27 03:56
    Is the PC brand an American company, or just American-made?
    38Anonymous2026-08-27 03:59
    Sorry, but I think that's just something she has to put up with.
    41Anonymous2026-08-27 02:09
    My girlfriend works at a grocery store and this whole thing is driving her up the wall. It's already a tough, thankless job. If people want to boycott American products, they can just read the label — flipping every box over on the shelf doesn't accomplish anything.
    39Anonymous2026-08-26 23:14
    Who's doing that — customers, or employees?
    40Anonymous2026-08-27 01:55
    Miss the days when Pearl Milling was still Aunt Jemima.

    Background and Key Points

    Canada’s “Product of Canada” and “Made in Canada” labels are regulated by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), not a marketing choice by retailers. “Product of Canada” requires that at least 98% of the ingredients, processing, and labour cost be Canadian; “Made in Canada” only requires 51% of the total production cost and the last substantial transformation to occur domestically. Neither standard has ever required Canadian ownership — a wholly foreign-owned company can legally use “Product of Canada” if its Canadian plant meets the content threshold. This is the backdrop for the current wave of “Buy Canadian” sentiment that followed the 2025 U.S.–Canada tariff dispute, which has pushed shoppers to scrutinize country-of-origin labels for the first time. Pearl Milling Company, the pancake mix at the center of this thread, is the renamed Aunt Jemima brand (rebranded in 2021 over its racist imagery), still owned by PepsiCo’s Quaker division.

    The thread’s real disagreement isn’t over the rule itself — several posters correctly explain the CFIA thresholds — but over whether local manufacturing and Canadian jobs should count as “Canadian enough” even when profits flow to a U.S. parent, versus posters who want labels tied strictly to corporate ownership.

    What’s likely to trip up outside readers is assuming “Product of Canada” is a fraud or loophole; it isn’t — it’s the label working exactly as designed, just measuring domestic content rather than who owns the company. No one in the thread mentions that CFIA guidelines are voluntary for many packaged goods and carry no requirement to disclose parent-company ownership at all, which is precisely why boycott-driven label reading has hard limits.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Lemmy c/canada) thread “Sovereignty Shopping.”

  • Hololive’s ‘ViVi’ Rating Survey Sparks Buzz — 5ch: ‘She’s the Strongest VTuber, Inside and Out!’

    In a late-night thread on 5ch’s “Anything Goes Live G” board, as tempting food photos and doodles kept piling up one after another, a long post praising the appeal of Hololive VTuber “Juufuutei Raden, now ViVi” appeared and split opinion among the thread’s regulars. In between, news broke that ‘Atelier Resleriana’ would be ending service, and word spread of 7-Eleven’s discount sale on ‘Kara-age Bo’ fried chicken sticks — giving the thread the lively, all-over-the-place feel typical of a general chat board.

    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:51
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    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:52
    Eat up 🥹
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:53
    Re: #13
    I hate curry like this
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:52
    Want this so bad 😭
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    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:53
    😨😨😨

    59AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Re: #17
    BWAHAHA!!!
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:55
    Slurped that down, so delicious
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:56
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Re: #28
    Raden-chan 😍
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:57
    That guilty pleasure from shupideso is irresistible, huh ☺ (a running in-joke on this thread)
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7175578.webp
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7175583.webp
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:58
    Thanks for this 🏠 reserved for the employed
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:59
    Re: #31
    That'll bring some peace 👍
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:58
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:00
    What is this place 👊🏽👴🏽👊🏽
    69AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:05
    Re: #41
    Daboujii's HEEERE ━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    47AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:01
    Spotted the shupideso 😍
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7175601.webp
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7175602.webp
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:02
    Convenience store chain 7-Eleven is running a sale on its popular counter-side snacks, the "Kara-age Bo" fried chicken sticks and "American Dog" corn dogs. The sale runs for five days starting August 27.

    Both items get a 30-yen discount: the "Kara-age Bo" (normally 184 yen) drops to 154 yen, and the "American Dog" (normally 139 yen) drops to 109 yen. *Prices are before tax
    https://www.sej.co.jp/library/contents/cmp/kshs2608_2/img/KV_kshs2608_2.jpg
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:02
    Nice vibe in here.
    Dropping a set of Hololive summer Fu-tan (Shirakami Fubuki) pics I really love












    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Wha-nyat is this thing!
    61AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Re: #60
    Vroom vroom-boom! 🐧
    65AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Re: #61
    Knock-knock-knock-knock-knock ✊
    67AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:05
    Re: #61
    Unchapuryapurya!
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:06
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:06
    Re: #73
    Pecowa 😍 (baby-talk for Pekora)
    76AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:07
    Re: #73
    So yummyyy 🥺
    80AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:08
    Sparkling, radiant ViVi

    • A natural charmer who's won over even Pekora — someone with notoriously high walls up — and keeps churning out top-tier Peko-ViVi content as a result
    • Her real personality is top-class cute, and on top of that, she's got a huge chest
    • Not a single shady rumor has ever surrounded her, even back in her previous incarnation — her name never even came up when Gaasyy was exposing dirt on a certain idol group
    • Has a voice and way of talking that's just easy on the ears
    • Also a strong streamer — she's even had the No. 1 total monthly stream time in all of Hololive



    Seriously, what's everyone's problem with ViVi? Why won't you rate her higher?
    88AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:10
    Re: #80
    She's the strongest VTuber, inside and out!
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:12
    Sorry, I'm devoted to Rui-nee (Takane Lui) only 🥺
    114AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:14
    Atelier Resleriana @Atelier_Resleri
    [Important Notice (1/2)]

    We regret to inform you that, entirely at our own discretion, "Atelier Resleriana" will be ending service as of 2026/11/25 16:00.

    We deeply apologize for the suddenness of this announcement.
    Please check the link below for details on what happens next.
    https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/atelier/resleriana/topics/20260827.html

    #AtelierResleriana
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    117AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:15
    Eat up 👴🏿
    122AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:15
    Re: #117
    Ho-no-chee 😰

    Background and Key Points

    Hololive is Cover Corp’s flagship VTuber agency, and “stream time” rankings like the one cited for ViVi are informal tallies fan sites and viewers compile from monthly broadcast hours, not an official metric Cover publishes. Juufuutei Raden was a member of ReGLOSS, one of Hololive’s newer in-house units, and the “now ViVi” aside signals a name or branding change that the thread treats as already common knowledge — it never explains what prompted it, so newcomers are left to infer it from context alone. The other Japan-specific reference worth flagging is Gaasyy, a YouTuber notorious around 2022 for a string of videos “exposing” scandals involving idols and talents; that ViVi’s name never surfaced in that saga is being cited as evidence of a clean reputation, which only lands if you know how disruptive those exposés were at the time.

    The actual disagreement in the thread is narrow: one poster’s long, effusive case for ViVi (charm, looks, spotless history, listenability, stream-time numbers) gets a single enthusiastic co-sign, but is otherwise met with indifference — including one reply that simply declares loyalty to a different Hololive talent, Takane Lui, instead of engaging with the pitch. There’s no real pushback or counter-argument, just non-response.

    What’s easy to misread from the headline is that this was any kind of organized “survey” — it wasn’t. It’s one fan’s unprompted, bullet-pointed praise post in a general late-night chat thread otherwise filled with food photos, art dumps, a game-shutdown announcement, and a convenience-store snack sale, and the “buzz” amounts to a couple of replies rather than a broad debate.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Anything Goes Live G) thread “Yare yare nano rane…¯⁠\⁠_⁠(・o・🍬)_⁠/⁠¯🏰”.

  • Tattooed AV Actress Reacts to Poor Sales — 5ch Debates the ‘Four Mood-Killer Accessories’

    A thread on 5ch’s livestream-commentary board picked up on news that a tattooed AV actress is down in the dumps over disappointing sales. The discussion took off around whether tattoos themselves are the real problem, or whether opinions split between small accent tattoos and full traditional Japanese (“wabori”) ink.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:08
    Why do Japanese people hate tattoos so much?
    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:09
    I think they're hot.
    Guess a lot of guys just have some pretty rigid preconceptions.
    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:09
    The skin is what gets you excited, so if it's covered in ink it's like she never even took her clothes off.
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:10
    If she got gangbanged by 10 guys, I'd watch it.
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:11
    Is it even the tattoos that are the problem in the first place?
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:11
    Tattoos
    Piercings
    Nail art

    The Four Heavenly Kings of Mood-Killing AV Accessories
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:11
    Some pretentious 'artsy' tattoo or full traditional ink is just visual noise to me.
    Now if she got an 'inmon' (a fictional lewd magic-circle tattoo trope) or filthy words like 'Piggy Cum Dump' inked on her, I'd rub one out to that.
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:12
    Tattoos on women specifically — please, just stop.
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:12
    I want to see the body, and a picture on it just gets in the way. Same with that background music you get in a lot of overseas videos — that's a no too. It's distracting. When you're getting off, even your favorite song turns into something worse than garbage.
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:21
    Re: #12
    Can't help it — overseas stuff gets released packaged like a music video.
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:14
    You narrowed your own market and now you're bummed about it?
    Guess people who get tattoos really are idiots.
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:14
    Shaved-side undercut
    Plastic surgery monster
    Ever-multiplying tattoos

    Feels like most of these girls just swapped their wrist-cutting scars for ink.
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:14
    Tattoos aside, a sunburnt 'grilled squid arm' (deep, uneven tan) really does it for me.
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:14
    Something cute like a little heart is fine, but full-on traditional ink, spiders, or skulls — that's a real mood-killer.
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:14
    Sena Rumina, though — she's still fappable.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:16
    Whether it sells comes down to
    whether it's actually hot or not.
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:16
    I'd honestly like to watch a woman who gets more tattoos with every new release.
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:16
    Also, there were tattooed women who basically looked like an artist's practice canvas.
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:17
    I mean, 'damaged goods' just gets disliked across the board, doesn't it?
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:18
    Overseas, a small accent tattoo is totally normal though.
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:22
    Way too gross
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:25
    Way too scary
    https://tadaup.jp/8l4ytkla.jpg
    https://tadaup.jp/8o0uoZb1.jpg
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:26
    Re: #50
    A full-back piece like that gives me a reptile-level sense of disgust.
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:27
    Re: #50
    Full traditional ink gives off way too strong a 'yakuza's woman' vibe — can't get off to that.
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:41
    Re: #50
    Gross
    Looks like fish scales or reptile skin
    People actually get turned on looking at that?
    61AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:28
    Anyway, if you don't have a tattoo yet, go get one
    All the young people have tattoos these days.
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:34
    Re: #61
    Only monkeys have tattoos, dude.
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:42
    Seeing it in person just makes your brain reflexively go to a bad place, and that's a dealbreaker for me.
    83AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:46
    If it were family, sure, but I'm surprised people care this much about the tattoo of someone they're just watching on a screen.
    Also don't get threads like Re: #1 that stir up hate without even linking a source.
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:52
    Re: #83
    Fanning the flames like that makes you just as guilty.
    Can't you just ignore it?


    Oh wait — this is a self-posted affiliate thread, isn't it.
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:55
    If you think tattoos are hot, you should just scribble all kinds of stuff on your body with a marker every day.
    Why does it have to be a permanent one-shot tattoo?
    101AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:57
    Re: #97
    Stickers that match your mood that day would work too, but for some reason that just feels lame.
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:56
    C'mon, at least let a small accent tattoo slide.
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:00
    Re: #99
    I don't mind letting it slide, but
    I've got no intention of paying money to watch an AV starring a tattooed actress.

    Background and Key Points

    Tattoo taboo in Japan runs deeper than fashion preference — it traces back to the Edo period, when irezumi (permanent ink) was used to brand convicted criminals, and to the 20th-century association between full-body “wabori” work and yakuza membership. That history is why many public baths, gyms, and pools in Japan still post blanket no-tattoo signs today, regardless of size or style, and why even a small design can carry social weight far beyond what it would in the US or Europe. In the AV industry specifically, an actress’s tattoos are a permanent, unremovable trait that follows her across her entire catalog, unlike a hairstyle or outfit she can change between releases — which is part of why buyers treat it as a purchase-blocking dealbreaker rather than a minor aesthetic quibble.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t “tattoos: yes or no” — nearly everyone agrees full traditional wabori, skulls, or spider motifs read as “yakuza’s woman” and kill the mood. The split is over scale: several posters (>>99, >>26, >>19) carve out an exception for a single small accent tattoo, especially citing it as unremarkable overseas, while others (>>11, >>104) reject any ink at all, however small, as a dealbreaker for a purchase decision.

    What the thread never addresses is the commercial mechanics behind the complaint: an AV title’s sales are shaped heavily by rental/streaming platform curation and thumbnail-driven browsing, so a visible tattoo can suppress a title’s numbers before playback even starts, independent of the performance itself — a distribution effect the posters mistake entirely for a verdict on the actress’s personal appeal.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Tattooed AV Actress Bummed Out Over Low Sales.”

  • Criticism Mounts Over Cool Japan Fund’s Investment List — Includes a Project That Burned Through ¥3.3 Billion Without Ever Launching

    It’s come to light that some of the projects funded by the “Cool Japan Fund” — the organization you might recognize from TV — racked up roughly ¥3.3 billion in losses without ever managing to release a single thing. On 5ch, criticism poured in over how sloppily these investments were vetted, with comments like “Go collect the money back!” and “Nobody takes responsibility even after losses like this” piling up, fueling widespread frustration over how tax money is being spent.

    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:08
    Re: #1
    Honestly, the least the bureaucrats could do is nothing at all — just cut corporate taxes instead.
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:08
    Hey now,
    they spent every last yen of it properly, so nobody's got any right to complain, right? (sarcasm)
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:09
    Milking tax money by riding on the popularity of Japanese manga and anime (lit. "tax teat-sucking," slang for leeching off public funds)
    Were all these companies really unknowns, and did they really need to set up brand-new companies and ventures for this? Instead of putting the money into companies that are already thriving
    the whole process behind how funding decisions get made is just baffling
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:10
    Re: #10
    It's just handouts to their buddies, isn't it.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:09
    They already failed once with third-sector (public-private) ventures, and they still haven't learned a thing.
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:11
    Re: #11
    What's the point of learning a lesson?
    They still get to keep milking the money, don't they?
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:13
    What exactly is "cool" about any of this?
    If they know who they invested in, they should be able to claw the tax money back
    Go collect it!
    I remember seeing "Kumo no Su" (Spider's Web) on TV — did that one flop too?
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:13
    Seriously, tax money never gets put to any decent use.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:16
    Never managed to release a single thing ← so what did they even spend the money on…?
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:22
    Re: #19
    And on top of that, a ¥3.3 billion loss — what were they actually doing?
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:18
    So Poupelle was Cool Japan-funded too, huh

    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:21
    The media should be reporting on stuff like this every single day.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:23
    Re: #28
    Some mysterious force steps in and nobody ever digs any deeper.
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:30
    Instead of building something like Junglia, they should've just built Dragon Ball Land.
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:32
    Re: #48
    Sounds like it's actually going to be built in France, funded by Saudi Arabia.

    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:31
    What were they doing every single day if they never released anything even once
    Just eating and sleeping, probably
    Can I get in on this gig too?
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:32
    Re: #52
    They were probably just sightseeing under the name "on-site research."
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:36
    Is there even a single success story in the bunch?
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:37
    Never managing to release anything even once — are they stupid or what.
    71AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:39
    Re: #67
    It's just bureaucrats playing around on the taxpayer's dime.
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:41
    Even after losses this big, nobody takes responsibility.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:42
    Re: #78
    There's responsibility, but no one who's actually responsible.
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
    At this point I wish they'd publish a ranking of tax-funded projects broken down by individual Diet members or their families — a leaderboard of how much tax money each one burned through while in office
    Of course, this would have to include investments past prime ministers decided on the spot in conversations with foreign presidents, so it's a given the top of the list would run into the tens of trillions of yen
    That would go viral worldwide, no doubt about it
    94AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:48
    Re: #91
    Somebody make a website for that.
    92AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:46
    By the way, the successor organization is currently pouring money into "Hateshinaki Scarlet" (Endless Scarlet).

    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:48
    Re: #92
    Well, that one can't really be helped.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:49
    Re: #92
    Is it on purpose that it's nothing but garbage at this point?
    99AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:50
    The Tokyo Olympics were Cool Japan Fund too.

    Background and Key Points

    The Cool Japan Fund (officially Cool Japan Fund Inc.) is a public-private investment vehicle set up by Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry in 2013, seeded mostly with government money, to help “cool” Japanese content — anime, manga, food, fashion, tourism — expand overseas. Unlike a subsidy, it’s structured as equity and loan investments meant to be repaid with returns, which is why a single project burning through ¥3.3 billion without ever releasing anything is notable: that’s investment capital effectively gone, not a grant that was merely spent. The fund has drawn Diet scrutiny for years over its track record, and posters clearly assume this is part of a longer pattern rather than an isolated incident.

    Where the thread actually splits is less about whether the fund is wasteful — that’s near-unanimous — and more about who’s to blame: some posts (10, 12) frame it as cronyism, money funneled to new shell ventures instead of already-successful companies; others (11, 13, 71) frame it as structural, comparing it to Japan’s earlier failed “third-sector” public-private projects and arguing bureaucrats simply can’t be made to learn since no one is personally penalized.

    What’s likely to mislead outside readers is post 99’s claim that the Tokyo Olympics were “Cool Japan Fund” — the Olympics were funded through an entirely separate public budget, and no source in the thread substantiates that link, so it reads as a joke or conflation rather than fact. Also unaddressed: the fund’s successor restructuring (mentioned in 92) is a real, ongoing government response to this exact criticism, which the thread treats mainly as more of the same rather than as reform in progress.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “[Images] The List of Investments Behind Cool Japan’s Massive Flop Is Insane lolololololololol.”

  • Backlash Over Yudetaro’s ‘Foreign Employees Are Excellent’ Remark Sparks 5ch Wage Debate

    Backlash erupted after the head of soba/udon chain Yudetaro praised foreign employees as “excellent,” sparking a heated back-and-forth in a 5ch thread.

    The president reportedly holds the position that foreign trainees should be paid the same wages as Japanese employees, and the thread’s discussion expanded from there — touching on why Japanese workers tend to shy away from low-wage jobs, and suspicions that management in labor-short industries like trucking would rather import cheap labor than raise wages.

    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:56
    Most foreign employees at places like convenience stores do their jobs just fine.
    If anything, the staff who actually piss me off are almost always Japanese.
    Though I guess that's my own bias talking.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:01
    Re: #13
    Their work ethic seems solid, but they barely speak Japanese…
    Makes me nervous whether paperwork like certificates is even being handled correctly. You need at least one native-level speaker on staff or it's a real problem.
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:59
    Gotta respect anyone doing convenience store part-time work in Japan.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:00
    Re: #21
    The Lawson near me has a Japanese owner and that's it — every other staffer is South Asian.
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:00
    Work 'em cheap, toss 'em when they wear out, and rake in the subsidies. 🤗
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:04
    Re: #23
    Foreigners who land jobs in food service and other customer-facing industries are basically the elite, since Japanese-language communication skills are such a high bar. And at Yudetaro they're paid the same as Japanese staff anyway.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:03
    If they can even learn Japanese, they're already more capable than your average "weak man" (弱者男性, a self-deprecating slang term for low-status, unsuccessful men).
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Re: #35
    Wait, there are Japanese people who can't even speak Japanese?
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    This is really about what "excellent" means to a business owner.
    It's not about being smart or good at the job —
    obviously they'd rather have someone who works cheap and keeps their mouth shut.
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:07
    Re: #42
    That's not even true anymore.
    The ones working now out-earn Japanese employees. Quit outing yourself as an out-of-touch boomer.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:08
    Re: #40
    If it's elites lining up to come work here, they can toss 'em out just as fast, lol.
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:08
    Re: #52
    Lol, acting like some kind of master strategist.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:10
    Hiroyuki basically dismantled this argument.
    His point being: isn't this really just about keeping labor costs down with cheap workers instead of ever raising wages?
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    Re: #63
    But what other option is there, really?
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:14
    Re: #63
    Hiroyuki calls himself a businessman and criticizes other business owners for not paying decent wages, but he's never once disclosed what he pays his own employees, has he?

    And for that matter, KADOKAWA — which Hiroyuki has championed — has also been called out for stiffing its writers on payment.
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:15
    Re: #63
    Of course a business owner would think that way.
    If someone has the sales ability to actually drive revenue, they end up holding the leverage instead.
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:10
    Their circumstances are different — anyone coming from a country that bad would have a different mindset too.
    Management is just exploiting that, calling cheap workers who grind away without complaint "excellent" while squeezing them.
    There's zero downside for the company even if those workers flee or turn to crime.
    Before complaining about "Japanese people," ask yourself if you ever even tried.
    71AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:13
    Re: #65
    The Yudetaro president's actual stance is: "It's the law that foreign trainees must be paid the same as Japanese employees. Companies that ignore that and pay trainees less shouldn't be allowed to hire them at all, and the government needs to enforce this properly."
    113AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:23
    Re: #71
    Japanese people don't apply precisely because the pay and conditions are bad.
    The second you're demanding foreign workers get brought in instead, you're no better than the people you're criticizing.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    Eventually udon shops and convenience stores are just going to go fully self-service, right?
    105AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:21
    Re: #67
    Fully self-service convenience stores have been trialed for over a decade now and still never rolled out — that tells you everything.
    I'm just glad Lawson has self-checkout at all.
    Though it's annoying that items with discount stickers can't go through self-checkout.
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Re: #67
    The irony is that convenience stores haven't even managed to go self-service because Japanese people's own civility (民度) is too low — so they're relying on foreigners to make up for it.
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:14
    People online are being absolutely hysterical about foreigners lately.
    But then they can't muster any respect for Olympic gold medalists either.
    They're just stressed out and taking it out on whoever's nearby.
    82AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Re: #75
    Complaints about society online are, at the end of the day, just people offloading their frustration with their own inadequacy onto someone else.
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:18
    This whole thing is just "foreigners are excellent (because they'll work without complaint even in low-paying, exploitative conditions)" — pure capital's-eye-view stuff.
    Which is another way of saying Japanese workers who complain and demand higher pay are garbage employees.

    So it's not about minority rights at all — they're just being valued as convenient, easily-used pieces on a board.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:19
    Re: #88
    Inventing an opinion someone never actually stated and then attacking them for "secretly thinking that" — classic move from the anti-foreigner crowd.
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:20
    Re: #88
    The real problem is that Japanese people won't take on troublesome jobs even when the pay is good.
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:20
    Re: #100
    Yeah, construction's exactly like that too.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Re: #103
    Trucking's another one. If you want to raise pay for drivers and sorters in logistics, the only way to fund that is by raising shipping fees — but Japanese customers immediately complain "shipping's too expensive!" So then (even though it's backwards) companies end up hiring foreign workers willing to work cheap just to hold shipping costs down. If you don't want foreign drivers, you need to be willing to accept shipping fees going up 20-30%.

    Background and Key Points

    Yudetaro is a nationwide soba/udon chain, and the “foreign employees” in question are mostly on Japan’s Technical Intern Training Program (技能実習制度) — the visa scheme that brings in labor from Vietnam, Nepal, Indonesia, and similar countries for sectors chronically short of workers, including food service, construction, and trucking. Crucially, Japanese labor law already requires trainees to be paid the same wage as Japanese staff doing equivalent work; the loophole isn’t the law but enforcement, which is exactly the point the Yudetaro president was making — his “excellent” comment was paired with a call for the government to crack down on companies that underpay trainees, not a boast about cheap labor. That nuance is why the backlash reads as ironic to some posters. It’s also worth knowing Japan is phasing this program out in favor of a new “Employment for Skill Development” system by 2027, precisely because of years of exploitation scandals tied to it.

    The thread didn’t really split over whether foreign workers are competent — nearly everyone conceded that. It split over motive: is “excellent” a genuine compliment, or corporate code for “won’t complain about bad conditions,” with the implication that Japanese workers who do complain get labeled difficult? That reading, amplified by a comment attributed to Hiroyuki (the 2channel founder turned pundit, frequently invoked in these threads as a contrarian authority), pushed the discussion toward wages versus automation versus import-cheap-labor as competing fixes for sectors like trucking and construction.

    What’s easy to miss: nobody in the thread mentions that equal-pay-for-trainees is already the legal baseline, not something Yudetaro is generously offering — so framing this as corporate generosity, or as exploitation, both slightly misstate the starting point.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Yudetaro Gets Absolutely Slammed Just for Saying Foreign Employees Are Excellent.”

  • What Does It Mean to Be ‘Good at Flame Wars’? 5ch Users Weigh In

    A thread titled “What does it even mean to be good at flame wars (レスバ)?” sparked a debate over whether flame-warring is a technique for winding up your opponent so they stick around, or just a pointless, unproductive slugfest.

    In the end, it came down to everyone having their own personal definition of “winning” — from “it’s not about who’s right, it’s about who gets the last word” to “the safe bet is only jumping in when you can tell you’re backing the winning side.”

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:43
    Does it mean someone with airtight logic, or just someone who's really good at pissing people off?
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:48
    Anyone who's out here flame-warring has already lost, both sides.
    There's no such thing as "winning" that.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 00:50
    Re: #6
    Exactly, it's a technique for winding people up so the thread stays alive longer.
    Post normally and the thread just dies instantly on dead VIP (a low-traffic board).
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:02
    Re: #9
    There's no winning or losing in that.

    Both sides just walk away with nothing to show for it.
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:14
    Re: #9
    This is just your own personal rule, you can't generalize it as "true for everyone" — testing out picking a flame war with that line.
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:03
    Re: #17
    There is something to gain —
    you get better at figuring out how to bait people with your replies.
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:06
    Re: #18
    A flame war is just people who like flame wars hurling insults at each other, that's all it is.

    It's the same insult-slinging over and over, not a skill.

    There's nothing to gain from it, you just repeat it day after day.
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:04
    The moment you're flame-warring you might as well be shouting "I'm an idiot," right?
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:05
    Re: #20
    Well, yeah.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:04
    Flame wars on an anonymous board aren't real flame wars.
    Go have a serious showdown somewhere you can't run away from, like X (formerly Twitter).
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:06
    Re: #21
    I'm genuinely into watching flame wars as a hobby, but I think it's only old-timers with nowhere else to post but VIP who actually do this.
    The content really does reek of "old man."
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:07
    Re: #21
    I get that a bit.

    Anonymity makes it too easy to just bail.
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:07
    Re: #24
    You get to experiment — "this works on this type, let's try that on this guy."

    VIP's so dead now that if you troll with the same theme, you reel in the same guy every time.
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:08
    Re: #25
    You're not just watching, you're also a participant in flame wars yourself, aren't you?
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:10
    Re: #29
    I always run my replies past an AI before posting,
    and it told me the same thing —
    something like "you're crossing from observer into manipulator territory."
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:09
    Re: #28
    Flame wars are all the same one note.

    "What middle school are you from? You know so-and-so senpai? Huh?"

    That's the level we're talking about, zero technique.
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:11
    Re: #31
    Nope.

    You've already left tracks in this very thread showing you flame-war all the time.

    Can you spot it yourself?
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:11
    Re: #34
    Yeah, I flame-war.
    Obviously.
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:14
    Now that we've got an answer…

    so is a flame war just killing time, a pointless battle with no winner, loser, or payoff? Is that the verdict?
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:14
    Re: #43
    Yeah, it's pointless.
    I just enjoy it, that's all.
    47AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:16
    Re: #43
    A flame war isn't about whose conclusion is right. Whoever posts the last reply wins. (^ω^)
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:15
    Re: #44
    I wrote that as my own opinion.
    I'm not trying to shoot down anyone who feels differently.
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:18
    Re: #46
    This thread's about what "good at flame wars" generally means, so just laying out your own personal rule doesn't get us anywhere.
    It needs to hold up as at least somewhat general.
    48AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:16
    Re: #45
    Because you were the one saying flame wars sharpen your technique, that it's a skill.
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:19
    Re: #48
    Well, yeah.
    That's just how I enjoy it.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:17
    Re: #47
    By your rule, whoever has the most free time on their hands wins.

    That's not really "winning or losing," is it?
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:19
    Re: #50
    I mean, it's not a debate, it's a flame war, right?
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:18
    In a flame war, whoever doesn't lose wins.
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:19
    Re: #51
    That's the psychology of it —
    if you think you won, you won.

    And there's nothing to gain from it, it's pointless.
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:20
    Re: #55
    I'll give you a serious answer —
    I'd say the moment you engage, you've already lost.
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:21
    You're strong if you only ever back the winning horse.
    When other people are already flame-warring and it's obvious one side has the logic and the momentum, jumping in to back them up is the smart move.
    Only get involved when you're guaranteed to win, and ignore everything else — that's the tried-and-true method.
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:22
    Re: #60
    There's no such thing as "logic" in a flame war, is there?
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:23
    Re: #64
    Sometimes there is.
    I won't deny it's mostly dumb bickering and name-calling at its core.
    So I steer clear of the ones that look like they'll turn into a slog.
    At the very least, that means I never lose.
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:25
    Re: #66
    Fair enough.
    There are idiots out there who just keep repeating "got a source?"
    even for stuff you could find with a two-second Google search.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:26
    Re: #66
    How do you even decide who won, though?
    I don't think you can judge it objectively —
    you can't measure how annoyed each side got, and there's no shared rule for what even counts as a win in the first place.
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:29
    Re: #77
    Back in the PC era there were way fewer of these pointless shouting matches than there are now.
    83AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:31
    Re: #79
    Not sure what you mean by "the PC era," but this stuff's been around forever.
    84AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:32
    Re: #83
    Wait, don't tell me you're still browsing 5ch on a PC?
    90AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:33
    Re: #84
    I only ever do it on a PC.

    Only when I'm sitting at my desk at home, too.
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:34
    Re: #84
    Funny how things flipped — people used to mock you with "what, you on a mo-shi-mo-shi phone?" (an old jab at mobile/flip-phone posters, back when browsing from a PC was the norm).

    Background and Key Points

    Flame wars (レスバ, “resu-ba,” short for “response battle”) are a fixture of 5channel culture, and the site’s mechanics shape how they play out. 5ch threads are anonymous, sequentially numbered, and can run to 1,000 replies before dying; VIP (livejupiter’s sister board, “Newsspeed VIP”) is one of the site’s oldest joke/chat boards but has bled traffic for years as users migrated to X and Discord, leaving mostly older regulars (“old-timers,” as one poster admits). That decline matters here: several posters frame flame-warring not as genuine anger but as a deliberate tactic to keep a dying thread alive with replies, since a normally-posted thread on “dead VIP” stalls out fast.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t “is flame-warring good or bad” — nearly everyone agrees it’s petty and repetitive — but whether it has any instrumental value. One camp says it’s pure technique: a way to learn what bait works on which poster type, or a numbers game where you only jump in on the side that’s already winning. The other camp insists there’s no “winning” at all, since there’s no shared scoring rule, no way to measure who got more annoyed, and no stakes since anonymity lets anyone bail without consequence.

    What outsiders will likely miss is the PC-versus-mobile aside near the end — a callback to a much older 5ch hierarchy where PC users looked down on phone posters (“mo-shi-mo-shi” mocks old flip-phone email chimes), now reversed since PC browsing itself reads as old-fashioned. It’s a small detail, but it underscores the thread’s real subtext: this is less a debate about arguing technique than a snapshot of a graying userbase reminiscing about board culture as the platform empties out.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts of and a summary based on the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread「What does it even mean to be good at flame wars?」.

  • A·ZU·NA’s New Single Stalls at #21 on Oricon — While Liella!’s Mini-Album Tops 20,000 Copies

    A·ZU·NA, the unit from Love Live! Superstar!!, dropped its first new song in four years — only to land at a modest No. 21 on the Oricon weekly chart. Over on 5ch’s Love Live! board, the gap with Liella!’s mini-album “Hyper Glowing!”, released around the same time and clearing 20,000 copies in its first week, became a hot topic. Fans of Nijigasaki and Liella! kept the sales debate going, comparing the unit’s past first-week numbers (14,203 → 13,181 → 16,626 copies).

    21st place, huh

    Source: oricon.co.jp / original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:29
    Judging by the previous sales of the Project Sekai unit ranked right below them, maybe around 3,000?
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Meanwhile Liella!'s mini-album cleared 20,000… what are the Nijigasaki fans ("Nijishin") gonna do now?
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    For real… It's losing even to Gakuen Idolmaster CDs, which have been available on download and streaming for months already, so buying the physical disc is basically just for collectors at this point. Kinda sad.
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Past first-week sales:
    1st: 14,203
    2nd: 13,181
    Anime Season 2 insert song: 9,349
    3rd: 16,626
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:43
    Re: #5
    If Nijigasaki fandom's peak energy was 100, I always figured it was down to like 30 or 40 by now —
    so this basically tracks with the sales.
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:34
    Nijigasaki fans were too busy bashing Liella!'s Sports Festival to show any real interest, so I had a feeling this would flop.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:35
    This is still the cream of the crop, honestly — there's way worse-performing content out there.
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:36
    2026-07-08 20,089 copies — "Project Bonding with Liella!" mini-album "Hyper Glowing!" / Liella!

    Yep, Nijigasaki loses lol
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:36
    How much does Gakuen Idolmaster even sell again?
    I know the digital/streaming side does well.
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:55
    If Nijigasaki fans have time to bash the Sports Festival, they should pick up a Timee gig (a Japanese day-labor app) for some pocket money and go buy the CD instead.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:56
    Re: #30
    Nijigasaki fans don't spend money on Nijigasaki, you know.
    Free Liella!-bashing is basically the most "support" they can muster.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:57
    Take a page from Nijigasaki — even when a release flops, they've got the money to keep the franchise going.
    Let's get Love Live! Superstar!! doing unit singles too!
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:58
    Re: #38
    A brand-new unit's mini-album just topped 20,000 copies, in case you missed it.
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:18
    Is it really something to celebrate, Koichu fans, being on the same level as a franchise that's already winding down and phoning it in?
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:20
    Re: #55
    Koichu is just a joke/gag song, you know.
    It's strictly the show's theme song, not a serious Liella! release.
    Meanwhile you guys were expecting A·ZU·NA's first song under composer Hayashi to sell way more, weren't you?
    This right here is the result
    of an actual serious-versus-serious showdown.
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:19
    Don't get worked up over a song that doesn't even come with a serial code.
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:20
    Re: #57
    Weren't you the ones bashing the sales of "Koi no Tutorial," which also had no serial code…?
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:22
    Love Live! is done for, huh.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Re: #61
    Love Live! is finished.
    It's the Idolmaster era now.
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:25
    Ordered mine on Amazon but for some reason shipping got delayed, so I won't get it until tomorrow.
    I actually like the coupling track — feels like it'd go over well live — but "Monochrome Labyrinth" is weak.
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:34
    Re: #66,68
    Yeah, it's true a CD with no serial code isn't going to sell these days.
    Also, shipping does seem delayed this time around.
    I preordered on Amazon ("Ama") back on 7/8 too, and it's now showing an expected arrival of Sunday.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    Re: #85
    So it's gonna keep climbing and hit 10,000, huh?
    Even then that's still half of 20,000 lolololol
    101AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:40
    Re: #89
    What's the point of comparing it to a serial-code release in a reply to Re: #85?
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:27
    Re: #1
    No serial code and it's on streaming, so that number checks out.
    73AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:31
    Re: #68
    Who was it again that kept chanting "2,409" over and over when someone said the same thing about Koichu?
    You're just getting the same thing thrown right back at you.
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    Nijigasaki should run a Sports Festival too.
    Their CDs aren't selling, so they might as well contribute to Love Live! that way.
    77AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    Re: #75
    Nah, not doing that~
    We don't need to embarrass ourselves like that — we pull crowds in with proper lives~


    lol
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    I mean, you can't call it a "flop" on release day itself.
    Are you seriously out of your mind?
    Sounds like someone who's never held down a real job.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:37
    Re: #91
    People said the exact same thing during the "Eigasaki" movie's Chapter 1 too —
    "it's just opening day,"
    "it's a weekday"…


    And the result was a massive flop.


    Yep, debunked.
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:39
    Re: #91
    If it were selling out everywhere like Ren's soundtrack did recently, the cumulative total would keep climbing,
    but there's no sign of that happening here, so it'll basically come down to first-week numbers.
    There's no big release event planned either, right?
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:40
    Re: #91
    Nijigasaki fans keep getting owned lololol

    Just



    admit you lost already.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:48
    Looks like we've found this year's group with the lowest peak sales.
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:51
    Re: #123
    Oh yeah, true.
    The "Ikizura" live sold decently since it came bundled with a Love Live Fes serial code.
    132AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:52
    Re: #123
    Lay off trash-talking the 2,409.

    Background and Key Points

    Love Live! is one of Bandai Namco’s flagship multimedia idol franchises, built around several rotating “school idol” casts that release music, anime, and games in parallel: the original μ’s, Aqours, the Nijigasaki High School Idol Club cast, and Liella! from Love Live! Superstar!!. A·ZU·NA is not a rival group but a two-member sub-unit drawn from Liella! itself, so the thread’s framing of “A·ZU·NA vs. Liella!” is really an in-house comparison, while the sniping at “Nijishin” (Nijigasaki fans) drags in a third, unrelated cast entirely — a sign of how tribal the Love Live! fandom’s sub-groups have become. Oricon’s weekly singles/albums chart, the benchmark cited here, tracks physical CD sales, which in Japan are often inflated by bundled serial codes for handshake events, lottery draws, or concert tickets that push fans to buy multiples of the same disc.

    The thread’s real fault line is less “did it flop” than whether the comparison is even valid: posters split over whether A·ZU·NA’s single, which shipped without a serial code, could fairly be judged against serial-code releases, and over whether first-week Oricon numbers mean anything before cumulative sales are in.

    What’s likely to trip up outside readers is that serial-code presence, not raw fan enthusiasm, is often the biggest lever on Oricon rankings — a no-serial release competing against one with an event ticket attached is structurally disadvantaged regardless of the music’s reception, a distinction the thread argues about but never fully spells out for anyone unfamiliar with how Japanese CD sales actually work.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “A·ZU·NA’s Long-Awaited New Song After 4 Years Turns Out to Be a Shocking Flop!“.

  • Canada Signals Closer EU Ties — “Might as Well Join,” Some Say

    Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announced that talks aimed at strengthening economic and security partnership with the EU — the world’s second-largest economic bloc — would begin this fall. On Lemmy’s European community, the news was welcomed, and someone half-jokingly suggested that Canada might as well just join the EU outright, sparking a debate over the pros and cons of EU federalization. The thread eventually veered off into a tangent about whether Canadian cities could ever break free from car-dependent infrastructure.

    Canadian PM Mark Carney: “Starting this fall, we will begin full-scale talks to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership with the EU, the world’s second-largest economic bloc.”

    Source: streamable.com / original clip here

    3Anonymous2026-08-25 19:47
    Can't wait! In times as rough as these, having a partner you can actually trust is such a relief.
    4Anonymous2026-08-25 20:49
    I doubt it'll actually happen, but imagine if Canada joined the EU and the US-Canada border suddenly had a row of EU flags along it. That'd be hilarious.
    25Anonymous2026-08-26 06:57
    Re: #4
    Seems like at least some Canadians are on board (link to related post). Honestly, I'm surprised how positive the reaction was. That said, I still think Canada joining would be an obstacle to the EU ever becoming a single federal state.
    29Anonymous2026-08-26 07:07
    Re: #25
    I don't think the EU itself is even ready to become a federation yet. Personally, though, I'd like to see it happen.
    32Anonymous2026-08-26 07:13
    Re: #25
    You say "Canada joining would be an obstacle to the EU becoming a single federal state," but is that even the EU's end goal in the first place?
    5Anonymous2026-08-25 19:49
    Europe needs more allies. Right now it looks too weak-kneed to stand up to the US. The more capitalist democracies band together, the less anyone has to kowtow to that orange bully.
    12Anonymous2026-08-25 20:10
    Re: #5
    Nah, there's no point talking to someone you can't trust. Look at the negotiations with Putin right before the invasion of Ukraine — he promised he "wouldn't invade" and then did exactly that. Total waste of time and energy. I think the EU right now is getting what it wants by keeping its head down. If Trump is that easy to manage, might as well use it to your advantage.
    6Anonymous2026-08-25 21:12
    By being the loudest, most belligerent nuisance at the international picnic, America is doing everyone else the favor of bringing them together.
    7Anonymous2026-08-26 06:22
    Re: #20
    Just change the urban areas then, genius.
    9Anonymous2026-08-26 00:35
    If you want to be more like Europe, why not convert some of that car-centric infrastructure into pedestrian- and bike-friendly stuff?
    20Anonymous2026-08-26 01:13
    Re: #9
    Our country's population density is only 5% of Europe's. I'd love to make infrastructure more pedestrian-friendly, but it's just not realistic for maybe half the country. Give it another 200 years and maybe things will change.
    33Anonymous2026-08-26 11:18
    Re: #20
    Might be surprising, but that actually makes it easier to lay rail lines, not harder.
    8Anonymous2026-08-26 06:09
    Re: #20
    Nobody's saying build a subway in the Arctic Circle. Everyone lives in cities. Toronto's population density is 4,400 people per square km, which isn't that far off from Stockholm's 5,300. Don't fall for car-culture propaganda — this is doable if there's the will.
    10Anonymous2026-08-25 19:56
    Trump is the best thing that's happened to Europe in ages. Not that I'm praising the leaky-diaper orange man himself, of course.
    14Anonymous2026-08-25 20:03
    Re: #10
    I think he's turned out to be the best thing for plenty of countries outside the US too…
    37Anonymous2026-08-26 08:51
    Re: #10
    Weird as it sounds, same goes for Putin. He's sped up the shift to green tech and triggered a massive military buildup to counter Russian imperialism.
    11Anonymous2026-08-26 06:27
    Re: #20
    That's total nonsense. Just think about it for five seconds. You think Canadians are evenly spread out across the whole country? No — most of them live in urban areas. The laws heavily favor car infrastructure and are blatantly stacked against pedestrians. Improvement is absolutely possible, and anyone saying "can't be done, density's too low" is either a car-industry lobbyist or just parroting one.
    16Anonymous2026-08-26 05:32
    Re: #40
    You'd want studded tires for riding on frozen roads. But it's not like you have to bike every single day — the fact that it's a viable option at all is great in itself.
    21Anonymous2026-08-26 06:11
    Re: #40
    Doesn't Europe have cold places too?
    27Anonymous2026-08-26 06:31
    Re: #40
    Oulu in Finland is snowed in for most of the year and people still bike around like it's nothing. It really comes down to infrastructure.
    40Anonymous2026-08-26 02:17
    Re: #9
    Also (at least for now) it gets brutally cold here! I've wiped out more than once trying to bike on icy roads.
    18Anonymous2026-08-25 20:09
    Diversification is a good thing — not just for capitalism. Everyone's trying to find ways to grow around the US, not through it.
    19Anonymous2026-08-26 09:35
    This is the "our friendship with America is over, the EU is our new best friend" meme, basically.
    22Anonymous2026-08-26 13:48
    Sounds like a good idea to me. But Europe's leaders need to grow a spine.
    23Anonymous2026-08-25 21:02
    What kind of tools are you looking for? If it's hand tools, Gray Tools is solid — made in Canada.
    24Anonymous2026-08-25 22:51
    Re: #2
    We love hockey over here too.
    26Anonymous2026-08-26 07:21
    Re: #32
    For a federalist like me, yeah. What the EU should ultimately be is something for EU citizens to debate and decide among themselves, but personally I support a federalist approach and think I can make a solid case for it.
    30Anonymous2026-08-26 07:08
    Re: #29
    It's just not ready yet, that's all.
    34Anonymous2026-08-26 13:55
    Re: #33
    Even so, you'd need to build and maintain rail lines running not just tens but hundreds of kilometers between major cities, which is insanely expensive. And there's a smaller passenger base and tax base to support it.
    36Anonymous2026-08-26 11:25
    This is probably going to take a while though. Just look at how long it took the EU-Mercosur agreement to come into force.
    38Anonymous2026-08-26 11:21
    Re: #40
    (video link) That's because you're wet. Finnish kids are tougher, so that's not an issue for them.
    39Anonymous2026-08-26 06:45
    Re: #16
    In my experience, riding on icy roads with studded tires actually feels more comfortable and grippier than riding over wet fallen leaves in autumn. It's surprising how much of a difference studded tires make, and you get used to it faster than you'd expect.
    41Anonymous2026-08-26 10:23
    Re: #21
    Actually, not really. Thanks to the Atlantic currents, it's known for being relatively mild, if anything.

    Background and Key Points

    Canada and the EU already have a deep economic relationship on paper: the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) has been provisionally applied since 2017, eliminating most tariffs between the two. What Carney is proposing goes further, into a “security and economic partnership” — likely modeled on the EU’s post-Brexit deals with countries like Japan or South Korea, or possibly something closer to the informal defense-industrial cooperation frameworks the EU has floated with non-member democracies. The subtext, which posters picked up on immediately, is Trump-era tariff pressure pushing Ottawa to diversify away from reliance on the US market.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t over whether closer ties are good — nearly everyone agreed they are — but over what “joining the EU” would even mean for the bloc’s own trajectory. One camp (>>25, >>26) treated EU federalization as an implicit long-term goal that a geographically detached, non-European member would complicate; another (>>32, >>29) pushed back that federalization isn’t even a settled EU objective yet, so the premise doesn’t hold.

    What none of the posters mentioned is that Canadian EU membership isn’t just practically remote, it’s legally impossible under the treaties as written: Article 49 of the Treaty on European Union restricts membership to “any European State.” Canada could join the European Economic Area or negotiate CETA-plus arrangements, but formal accession would require rewriting the EU’s foundational treaty language, not just winning a vote. Readers unfamiliar with EU structure may take the “might as well join” framing more literally than the thread intended — it was always a jokey hypothetical, not a live policy option.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Lemmy c/europe) thread “Canada’s PM Carney: "This fall we will begin intense discussions with the European Union, the world’s second-largest economy, to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership".”

  • DECA!BEAT Dance Video Drops, Fans React to Positioning — 5ch: “This Is Exactly It”

    UP-FRONT Channel has released a dance practice video for DECA!BEAT’s “Wacha☆Future.” On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, members’ formation positions and choreography became a hot topic, with opinions split over Ebata getting “buried” in the background and how Goto Hana was used.

    There was also some sarcastic back-and-forth about the video that was originally only supposed to be released once a mission was completed.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:00
    [UP-FRONT Channel]
    DECA!BEAT "Wacha☆Future" DANCE PRACTICE ver.
    youtu.be/daXwOUr6bBs
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Thread guessing who'll be added to DECA!BEAT to replace Goto Hana
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1787699254/
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Come to think of it, whatever happened to that video that was supposed to unlock once the mission was cleared?
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:05
    On the flip side — if the mission hadn't been cleared,
    were they seriously not going to release it after going through all the trouble of filming it?
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:30
    Re: #7
    They'll show us this, then act like a video that "doesn't exist" was never something they failed to release.
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Gotta keep showing you're motivated, I guess.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Wait, does that mean we get to see the bowlegged dance too? ("gani-mata," a duck-walk-style move)
    I'm watching Hello! Lab on TVer right now, I'll check it out next.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    When Ebata stands center, it's such a "yeah, this is it" feeling.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    Choreography at this level should be a breeze for the current members.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Ebata's the one getting buried the most here.
    Even more buried than she was in Juice=Juice.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Choreographer Makita Sayako is nice and easy to follow.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:16
    Ebaru isn't really standing out that much.
    Though her look in the MV turned out amazing.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    Ebata really is just background filler.
    If it were Kawashima, it wouldn't have turned out like this.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #25
    Huh? Kawashima wasn't picked, though?
    The one who got picked was Ebata.
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Obviously, "Ketsuron kara Itte Chōdai" on Hello! Station had more of an all-star feel.
    In DECA!BEAT, it's not that Ebata is background filler — it's that everyone else just has an unusually strong presence.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    If she's relatively less distinctive and has a weaker presence, isn't that basically the definition of "background filler"…
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    I feel like Eba works as a nice accent in Juice=Juice, though.
    Maybe it's because she's got such a strong image of squealing around with the younger members.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:27
    So this is a team built around the "Kirara" roster, huh.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Wait, was Homatan even in this?
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    Goto's clearly a talent suited for outside work.
    But if she wants a long career, she'll also need to build a solid fanbase within the Hello! Project scene.
    This is probably a transitional phase where there's a lot to figure out.
    43AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Kamirena is small and cute.
    Yumigeta stands out more than you'd expect.
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    I thought Okamura was kind of plain, but seeing her like this, she's got pretty well-balanced stats.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Makes me imagine what Kamirena would've been like in a world where she'd joined an existing group as its youngest member —
    and that's not a bad thing to picture.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Miimi's slit was actually pretty great.
    Didn't notice it in person.
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Sugiyama's the BEYOOOOONDS slot, Suzuki's the Morning Musume slot.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #49
    Yumigeta, who loves Decarbo, is gonna cry.
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    https://tiktok.com/@decarbo46/video/7678318256586820885
    https://i.imgur.com/nFWKa8k.mp4


    Decarbo [Official] @ Fun, Effortless Decarbonization
    decarbo46

    The four of us doing Wacha☆ #Earthhacks #DecaBeat #HelloProject
    Wacha☆Future/DECA!BEAT Intro ver. – Hello! Project
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    Is it just me, or does Yokaze look like she's having more fun over here?
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #57
    They've pretty blatantly lined up the next generation's main players, so she's probably feeling good about it.
    Plus she got to team up with Eba.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #57
    Not just that Ebata's in it — compared to her own group, there are simply more members close to her age here to begin with.
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    Looking at this, Goto's visuals and performance are on par with any other group's ace,
    so why can't ANGERME make good use of her?
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:52
    Re: #58
    Because it's the "Ise hell" (fan shorthand for ANGERME's Ise-dominated dynamic).

    Background and Key Points

    DECA!BEAT is one of Hello! Project’s periodic “all-star” cross-unit projects, assembling members pulled from across the agency’s various groups — Morning Musume, ANGERME, Juice=Juice, BEYOOOOONDS, and the trainee ranks — rather than being a standing group with its own roster. UP-FRONT Channel is the official Hello! Project YouTube outlet that drops these choreography and MV clips, and “dance practice ver.” releases are a routine promotional format used to show off formation and choreography separately from the polished music video. Ebata, singled out here, belongs to Juice=Juice; Goto Hana belongs to ANGERME, a group fans jokingly call dominated by “Ise hell” — shorthand for member Ise Layla’s outsized presence within that group, which posters use to explain why Goto isn’t showcased more at home despite her ability.

    The thread didn’t split over whether Ebata was in the back — everyone agrees on her positioning — but over why: some blame the choreography for genuinely sidelining her, others argue it’s simply that this particular lineup is unusually stacked with strong performers, making her look diminished only by comparison.

    What’s easy to miss is that DECA!BEAT’s centers and formations say nothing about a member’s standing in her actual group; a strong showing here doesn’t equal popularity at home, and vice versa. The “mission-gated” video the posters mock was a marketing conceit — content teased as unlockable only if a fan-engagement goal was met — and the sarcasm stems from suspecting it would have surfaced eventually regardless of whether the mission succeeded.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “DECA!BEAT “Wacha☆Future” DANCE PRACTICE ver..”

  • Man Live-Tweets as Dating App Match Vanishes Into the Bathroom for Ages

    A post about a date with a woman he’d met on a dating app went viral on 5ch after she stepped into the bathroom and didn’t come back for over 30 minutes. The incident took place at a restaurant on the 45th floor, and thread readers were split over whether to call an ambulance or just accept he’d been ditched.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    Standing watch outside the bathroom, but she's still not back.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:15
    Standing guard outside the bathroom is creepy.
    Just wait at the table.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:16
    Re: #14
    Waiting right outside so she spots you the second she's out is just basic manners.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Maybe she's busy lining up her next dating app date.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Re: #25
    Do that after you get home, come on.
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    What were you two talking about right before, and where is this happening?
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Re: #30
    We were saying stuff like "guess it's time to head home," then we both went to the bathroom.
    I was out in like two seconds, and now I'm stuck like this.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Re: #36
    You left yourself wide open there.
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    Re: #36
    She probably waited to see OP (that's you) go into the bathroom, then took off.
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Isn't she just waiting for you to leave your post outside the bathroom?
    The moment you step away, she'll come out.
    And just go straight home.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Re: #37
    I stepped away for a bit, but she still didn't come out.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    After that I got a message: "Sorry! Hang on a sec."
    So she must still be in there.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #44
    Are you sure she's actually still in there?
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:25
    Re: #44
    She might have collapsed in the bathroom — shouldn't you call an ambulance?
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:27
    Re: #53
    Nah, that feels like a step too far, you know?
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Re: #55
    Aren't you going to message her? Like ask if she's okay?
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:30
    Re: #58
    The "wait for me" message came 30 minutes ago.
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Re: #62
    No, I mean after that — you've been waiting 30 minutes now, you should send something.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:33
    Re: #64
    Couldn't send it 😔
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Either you came off as seriously creepy, or she's dropping a 20-meter poop in there.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Re: #59
    I'm gorgeous inside and out (riffing on the phrase "handsome in looks and heart"), so it's gotta be an epically long poop.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:35
    I'd hate a place where you can hear every last blast of the bidet.
    76AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:36
    Re: #74
    It's a totally normal bathroom.
    It's just really quiet around here.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    You're probably already blocked.
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    Re: #96
    Not blocked.
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #98
    Not blocked on the dating app OR on LINE?
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #104
    We only matched on the app, so that's the only place, and I'm not blocked there.
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    She climbed out the bathroom window with her shoes in hand and made a run for it, that's what happened.
    112AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Re: #109
    This is the 45th floor, dude.
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Depending on how you look at it, it's kind of funny that a dozen-plus people could be waiting on her to finish.
    I'd absolutely hate that.
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    Re: #114
    The women's room was definitely not crowded.
    118AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:45
    Messaging her now or just leaving would both wound her maidenly pride, right?
    All I can do is pretend I fell asleep so it looks like I never noticed how long she was in there.
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #118
    What do you even mean, "pretend to be asleep"?
    119AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    At this point the only explanation left is she sprinted for the exit the instant OP walked into the bathroom.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #119
    But I got a "wait for me" message after that.
    121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    Try sending her: "You giant poop monster 😡"
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #121
    Nah, that's rough, man.
    128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #124
    I pretend to be asleep on the bench
    ↓
    Poop Girl: "Sorry, were you waiting long?"
    ↓
    Me: "Oh, I was asleep, didn't even notice."


    That's the plan.
    147AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:55
    Re: #128
    Stop saying stuff that makes no sense.
    148AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    You get to have dinner with a woman up on the 45th floor and you're fixated on the bathroom?… Work on your story a little more…
    149AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Re: #148
    Dinner was at a cheap place.
    After that we just went up to the free high-floor lookout to see the night view.
    152AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:03
    Re: #149
    Well, no wonder she left.
    153AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:03
    Re: #149
    Well, no wonder she left.

    Background and Key Points

    Man Waits 30 Minutes Outside Bathroom While Dating App Date Never Returns

    Japanese dating apps like Tinder, Pairs, and Tapple have become one of the most common ways young Japanese people meet, and a “first date” arranged through them is typically a short, low-commitment dinner or coffee meeting, often at a casual, inexpensive restaurant — which is part of why posters in this thread zeroed in on the detail that the date was at a “cheap place” (150-149) rather than something matching the impressive 45th-floor night-view setting. That mismatch, small as it sounds, became one of the thread’s turning points: several posters treated it as retroactive evidence that the date was already going badly before the bathroom disappearance even happened.

    The actual split in the thread was less about whether she left and more about what OP should do about it. One camp pushed a worst-case, duty-of-care reading — she could have collapsed and someone should call an ambulance or check on her — while another camp treated the vanishing as an obvious, almost comedic brush-off (the “20-meter poop” and window-escape jokes), telling OP to just accept it and stop hovering, since standing watch outside a women’s restroom door reads as alarming rather than considerate in Japan.

    What the thread never really engages with is the mechanics of the app itself: a match made purely in-app, with no LINE ID exchanged, is trivially and permanently escapable — she can simply stop responding with zero social cost, no mutual contacts, no shared history, nothing forcing a real goodbye. That’s precisely the loophole posters gesture at (“she waited for you to leave your post”) without naming it directly: on these apps, disappearing is a built-in exit, not a dramatic act.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “The girl I met on a dating app went to take a dump and never came back.”