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  • YouTuber “Despair Line Worker Ch”: Single, Low-Income, Temp-Worker Persona Exposed as Completely Fake

    The YouTube channel “Despair Line Worker Ch” (絶望ライン工ch) built its image around being run by a single, low-income temp factory worker — but it’s now been pointed out that the entire setup was fake, sparking a buzz on a 5ch live-commentary thread. The uploader reportedly does have genuine past experience working as a temp or dispatch factory hand, but appears to have kept milking that persona for ad revenue long after it stopped being true. Reactions in the thread ranged from matter-of-fact (“anyone can tell from the view count alone that he’s earning more than an average person”) to outright anger (“he wasted my time”), and the discussion spread into the broader reality behind similar “poverty YouTuber” channels.

    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:03
    No idea about the single-guy or temp-worker part, but I think anyone can tell from the view count alone that his income is clearly above average.
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:12
    Re: #2
    Probably his factory-line income was higher than he let on too, honestly.
    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:05
    Haven't heard this guy's name in a while — kind of pathetic that he's now getting resentment thrown back at him by the "low-status men" (jakusha danshi, slang for socially/economically disadvantaged men) crowd that used to be his fanbase.
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:05
    Where does lying like this actually stand under YouTube's terms of service?
    Also curious whether it counts as fraud under Japanese criminal law.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:16
    Re: #4
    I don't think it counts as fraud since he didn't directly con anyone out of money.
    No idea about the corporate terms of service though.
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:05
    Are there actually people who think "poverty YouTubers" are genuinely poor?
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:08
    Re: #5
    Forgot his name, but there's a heavyset YouTuber living in a run-down house that I honestly thought was really poor.
    His channel's blown up since then, so he's probably got money now.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:07
    Who cares, if people enjoyed watching it.
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:11
    Re: #9
    Can't really say "no harm done" when people had their time wasted by a guy faking being a broke factory worker.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:07
    Real despair doesn't even leave you the energy to make videos — it should've been obvious it was fake.
    I really can't stand YouTube fanboy comment sections.
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:16
    Re: #11
    Yeah, pretty much this.
    I mean, if you think about it, someone who can actually produce videos and pull in views isn't going to be a genuinely incompetent bottom-rung loser in real life.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:08
    Is it one of those "relatable factory-line-worker" type videos?
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:12
    Re: #13
    Watched it once — he just travels somewhere domestic and silently eats food.
    Just empty content, the only thing "good" about it being the lack of pointless chatter.
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:18
    Re: #16
    That's the one.
    Used to watch it a lot for a while.
    There was also some heavyset guy who cooked inside his Prius.
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:19
    Re: #33
    Cooking in a Prius? Kind of want to see that now. Thanks (サンガツ, net slang for "thanks").
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:26
    Even if he genuinely started at the bottom, once he gets popular he stops being that, so the whole premise inevitably collapses.
    I get that's a dilemma for the person himself, but viewers failing to notice the shift is a separate problem.
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:31
    Re: #44
    Kind of like the "pure and innocent" persona in porn (AV), huh?
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:41
    Everyone was watching because they thought there was someone worse off than them — makes sense people are angry finding out they were deceived and the guy's actually way better off.
    70AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:53
    Re: #57
    Seriously, this — you sympathize with someone precisely because they're below you.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:43
    Maybe I should start a YouTube channel too, with a persona of a single guy taking home about 150,000 yen a month.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:49
    Re: #58
    Stop hiding the fact that you're bald.
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:47
    Someone who's actually at the bottom doesn't have time to run a YouTube channel.
    88AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:03
    Re: #61
    Seems like it's true he was once a temp or dispatch factory worker, but the lie is that he's still doing it now.
    In other words, he's pretending to still be on the factory floor while actually making money from YouTube and other ventures, having quit the factory job long ago.
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:50
    I wonder if those "we're all just part-timers together" YouTuber channels are fake too.
    Do they just rent out the shop for filming?
    84AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:01
    Re: #65
    That's basically just theater.
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:53
    I searched and found another guy doing something similar — he's probably not actually at the bottom either, right?
    76AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:55
    Re: #73
    If a quick search turns him up, he's definitely raking in ad revenue.
    Idiots just don't get that.
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:00
    Re: #73
    Both "Useless Dispatch Worker Masao" and "Despair Line Worker" basically just post videos of themselves cooking with nothing interesting to say — normally nobody would watch that, but everyone tuned in because of the "I'm at the bottom" angle.
    91AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:04
    People end up watching this kind of stuff because they want the reassurance of looking down at someone "below" them.
    93AnonymousOct 6, 2026 14:05
    Re: #91
    More like a "fellow sufferer" than someone "below" you, no?
    That's why people feel betrayed and get furious.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    So-called “poverty” or “bottom-rung” YouTubers are a well-known genre that tends to draw viewer sympathy and easily rack up views. What complicates this particular case is that the uploader reportedly does have genuine past experience as a temp or dispatch factory worker, so the persona wasn’t a complete fabrication from scratch. In the thread, some raised the legal angle — that since he didn’t directly deceive anyone out of money, it likely wouldn’t count as fraud — while opinions were split on how it holds up against YouTube’s terms of service and basic content honesty. Since a channel’s real living standard inevitably changes once it gains views and popularity, the view that “someone who’s truly at the bottom wouldn’t even have the energy to make videos” reads as a general rule of thumb worth keeping in mind when watching similar channels.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Live News General) thread “[Sad News] Despair Line Worker Ch turns out to have lied about being single, low-income, and a temp worker — wwwwwwwwwww“.

  • Fans Flooding a Yokohama Stadium Beer Girl with Orders Spark ‘Hostess Club’ Comparisons

    During games at Yokohama Stadium, it became a hot topic on 5ch that some customers were placing massive repeat orders — like 15 beers at 800 yen each — with one particular vendor. Some customers even leave without finishing the beers they bought, abandoning them on the spot. The thread kicked off with the observation that “this is the same structure as handshake tickets or Super Chat tipping,” and the discussion expanded to cover customer psychology, manners, and how the vendors themselves might feel about it. Opinions split between those stunned at what they saw as sheer waste of money, and those who argued there’s no problem as long as both sides are satisfied.

    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:19
    These guys are ordering like 15 beers at 800 yen a glass
    Not sure what the benefit even is
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:31
    Re: #8
    I don't really know how the CD handshake-ticket system works, but which gets you more talk time: 12,000 yen's worth of chatting while she pours 15 beers, or buying 4 CDs for a handshake event?
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:23
    All that money for just a fleeting moment of feeling superior
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:27
    Re: #17
    That's all it is (doesn't even hit 20,000 yen)
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:28
    Re: #17
    If he just gave the beers away he'd get thanked and feel even more superior — why dump them or leave them sitting there instead?
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:26
    Poverty dulls the mind (old proverb: desperation breeds bad judgment)
    Unstoppable money worship

    Forget the foreigner issue — it's the Japanese themselves losing their minds, the country's finished
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:28
    Re: #23
    Exactly this
    Japanese people have just gotten too stupid
    This isn't even on the 'blame the foreigners' level
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:28
    They can only tell how many were sold from the revenue anyway, right?
    He could just pay 10,000 yen for one beer
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:31
    Re: #30
    There's this thing called inventory reconciliation
    If sales and remaining stock numbers don't match up, it gets flagged as an anomaly and becomes a hassle
    Stuff like 'did she underreport sales?'
    Or 'is the beer girl drinking the stock herself?'
    That's the kind of trouble it causes
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:30
    How far does this actually get you if you keep it up?
    Does it just end with him broke from showering her with gifts?
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:34
    Re: #34
    Probably just tops out at her answering him with a big smile
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:32
    If you're going to buy a ton anyway, wouldn't it be better to hand them out to people nearby?
    That way nobody loses out
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:35
    I don't get the logic where this beer is 'too precious to waste' but dumping beer all over someone during the post-game beer-splash celebration is totally fine
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:43
    Re: #48
    'Buying that much, are you sure your wallet's okay?'

    'You came to watch baseball, right? lol Stop buying beer and watch the game lol'

    He's paying big money just to get exchanges like that
    78AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:48
    Re: #69
    I'm not the one buying, though
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:46
    He could just treat everyone in the stands who wants a drink — why does he throw them away instead?
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:52
    Re: #73
    A guy generous enough to treat total strangers wouldn't be this obsessed with some girl in the first place
    Honestly, everything about this just screams 'loser'
    79AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:48
    Cleaning up trash is literally the cleaning staff's job
    Can't get on board with the idiots who feel smug ('horu-horu,' slang for self-satisfied glow) picking up litter after the game
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:49
    Re: #79
    Well, logically that's true, but it really shows a lack of social decency — or just poor upbringing, lol 😅
    80AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:49
    I mean, it's only 10,000-20,000 yen
    Dumb, sure, but throwing 50,000 yen in a Super Chat (YouTube live-stream tipping) is way more baffling than this
    84AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:50
    Re: #80
    Both are dumb
    The world's full of idiots
    86AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:50
    Honestly, I think she'd be happier getting a 1,000 yen tip every time he orders a refill
    92AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:53
    Re: #86
    A tip with such obvious ulterior motives is nothing but scary from the beer girl's perspective
    You never know what he might try later
    If he starts lying in wait for her, she's done for
    93AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:53
    Not just wasteful — the more he does this, the less likely she'll ever see him as a romantic prospect, which is just sad
    104AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:56
    Re: #93
    If anything, her type is probably guys who make HER spend money on THEM
    Same goes for idols probably — a guy like this must register to her as some bug from a different world
    95AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:54
    If it's win-win for both sides, there's no problem at all
    Unlike hostess clubs or host clubs, nobody's going bankrupt over this small an amount
    People just want to bash 'anyone who does this is a dumb idiot' — that's bottom-tier thinking
    100AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:55
    Re: #95
    No, however you look at it, it's dumb and deserves to be mocked
    Calling that 'bottom-tier thinking' totally misses the point
    109AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:58
    A hostess would be thrilled, but some of these girls are genuinely earnest types
    The kind who just love their team and wanted to work at the stadium
    Honestly, she's probably creeped out on the inside
    112AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:59
    Re: #109
    Not sure about the current situation, but isn't it mostly semi-pro types doing this now?
    Back in the day regular high schoolers worked these jobs, and I had classmates who did it
    114AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:00
    Re: #109
    Girls like that work the merch shop or food court instead
    They wouldn't deliberately pick a commission-based job
    116AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:01
    If it buys you like a minute of conversation with the beer girl you're into, I kind of get it
    Better value than being a 'v-tuber pig' (derogatory term for obsessive VTuber fans) who pays the same and gets brushed off in seconds without even a word
    123AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:02
    Re: #116
    For the same money you could go to a girls' bar and talk for like an hour, no?
    124AnonymousOct 6, 2026 13:02
    Re: #116
    Well, of course she'll spare time for her big spenders ('whale' customers)
    Basically the same system as AKB (idol group known for pay-to-meet handshake events)
    Like 20 seconds per beer

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Ballpark beer vendors typically earn income based on how many drinks they sell, and as the thread notes with its talk of inventory reconciliation, a mismatch between sales and remaining stock tends to cause management headaches. That’s why solutions like “just have her give the beer away to customers” aren’t realistic in practice. As for why customers pile huge orders onto one specific vendor, some draw parallels to idol CD handshake-ticket sales or YouTube Super Chats — framing it as a way of buying a brief conversation or moment of attention. Opinions in the thread are split between those who call it pure self-indulgent waste and those who argue that if both sides are satisfied, it’s not an outsider’s place to criticize. No consensus emerged on which side is right. It’s also worth noting the thread doesn’t identify any specific individual by name — it’s a general discussion about a behavior pattern commonly observed among stadium customers.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Tragic News] Yokohama Stadium Beer Girls’ ‘Hostess Club-ification’ Crosses the Line, lolololololol.”

  • Video Claims French Police Mass-Resigned to Join Protesters — Sparks Debate on 5ch

    A video circulating on social media claims that French police officers, refusing to crack down on a high-school protest, resigned en masse and joined the demonstrators — the clip became a hot topic on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (general live-commentary) board. It originated as a translation of a post from a Spanish-language account, and no follow-up reporting has confirmed the scale or circumstances of the alleged resignations, so how much of it is actually true remains unverified even as it spreads. In the thread, the main points of debate were whether protests involving arson and looting can still be called “demonstrations,” and how the memory of the French Revolution shapes today’s protest culture. The discussion also expanded to cover the French government’s budget woes — rooted in underfunded schools — and comparisons with Japan’s student movements.

    @lpsargentina

    Translated from Spanish

    🇫🇷🔥 Mass resignation of police officers in France, joining the protest

    Source: video.twimg.com / original post here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:58
    Once they start setting fires and looting, that's not a 'protest' anymore — that's terrorism.
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:59
    Re: #3
    Figures — a country that fought and won democracy for itself.
    They really know how to run a protest.
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:01
    Re: #3
    By that logic every leader of every civil revolution in history becomes a terrorist, so that's an auto-fail.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:02
    Re: #3
    They just went too hard on neoliberalism, brought in immigrants chasing cheaper labor, and in the meantime this kind of mindset spread.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:02
    That French Revolution 'success story' is a hell of a thing to have baked into your national memory.
    89AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:13
    Re: #10
    Was that actually a success though?
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:22
    Which job class are you all picking?

    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:42
    Re: #26
    Everyone's rocking homemade gear and there's some bare-knuckle gopnik-looking guy mixed in lol (gopnik: Russian slang for a thuggish, tracksuit-wearing lowlife)
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:23
    Protests overseas come with way too much property damage, theft, and assault.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:24
    Re: #27
    Well the whole point is to inconvenience society until it caves — Japanese slaves could never pull that off.
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:47
    The high schoolers in Paris have way more backbone than us, yet Japanese people just sneer at this.
    I really think Japan is finished.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:49
    Re: #55
    You're sneering right now lol
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:56
    Re: #60
    At the very least, decent people don't resort to arson or looting.
    Do the far-left actually call this a legitimate protest?
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 11:58
    Re: #63
    In a country literally founded on the French Revolution, calling that "not legitimate" is a tough sell.
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:00
    Re: #64
    In France itself, the French Revolution is treated as a genocide though.
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:02
    Re: #65
    To modern French people, the French Revolution is seen as the country's greatest source of pride — it established the republic's core principles of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity." The Revolution isn't just a historical event; it's regarded as the foundation of modern French identity itself (think the national anthem "La Marseillaise" or Bastille Day, the "Revolution Memorial Day" on July 14th).
    71AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:04
    Re: #65
    That is such a Japanese thing to say.
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:06
    French government: "Crap… we're seriously broke… school funding's gonna have to wait."
    French students: "Screw that! We're protesting."
    Far-left: "Let's turn this into an anti-anti-immigration rally."
    Right-wing: "Let's spin the riots into fuel for stoking Islamophobia."

    How is this supposed to get solved?
    79AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:07
    Re: #77
    They ran the country on African colonial exploitation for way too long.
    It's over.
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:13
    Re: #77
    This is just decades of ignoring everything finally exploding.
    85AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:10
    I heard French schools don't even have air conditioning — honestly feel bad for them.
    104AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:20
    Re: #85
    Apparently there's only about one toilet per 100 students, and half of those are broken and out of use lol
    107AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:21
    Re: #104
    Back in the day they just did their business all over town, so this is nothing (lit. "safe" — slang for "no foul").
    108AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:21
    Re: #104
    Isn't the whole street basically a toilet in France anyway?
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:18
    Is France's finances really that bad?
    Then who's supposed to be leading NATO?
    111AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:22
    Re: #98
    Germany maybe?
    Germany's a mess too, which means NATO (pun: "納豆/nattō," fermented soybeans, sounds like "NATO") is in serious trouble.
    113AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:22
    Re: #98
    They're drowning in debt about as bad as Italy, and on top of that the Ukraine war means military spending is the one thing they can't cut.
    They're completely boxed in.
    117AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:24
    Alright, fine, I'll grant you your point.
    So what's France actually supposed to do about it?
    127AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:27
    Re: #117
    Do whatever you want.
    Honestly couldn't care less what happens to France.
    128AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:28
    What's with this guy

    117 Name: Anonymous (And Yet It Moves) [] Posted: 2026/10/06 (Tue) 12:24:56.12 ID:W4gNgJja0 [2/3]
    Alright, fine, I'll grant you your point.
    So what's France actually supposed to do about it?

    127 Name: Anonymous (And Yet It Moves) [] Posted: 2026/10/06 (Tue) 12:27:30.40 ID:W4gNgJja0 [3/3]
    Re: #117
    Do whatever you want.
    Honestly couldn't care less what happens to France.
    123AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:26
    Back in the day, Japan used to build barricades at universities and throw Molotov cocktails at police,
    smash up train stations and trains, rob the ticket machines, and drag station staff out to beat them up.
    Why did we stop doing stuff like that?
    126AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:27
    Re: #123
    Probably because the more you look into the old student movements, the more they just look like idiots.
    Combined with how easy it is to dig up info online now, it ended up being a great cautionary tale.
    129AnonymousOct 6, 2026 12:29
    Re: #123
    Probably because back then people could still dream about socialism.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The thread’s source material is a translation by the video’s poster, and no primary source has confirmed the scale or circumstances of the alleged mass police resignation and protest-joining — the facts remain unverified at this stage. France has seen repeated waves of protest in recent years over pension reform and the rising cost of living, and fiscal consolidation — including education budgets — has become a political flashpoint. Opinions in the thread split over whether to call protests involving arson and looting “terrorism” or to see them as an extension of a protest culture dating back to the French Revolution, with differing readings of history driving the differing judgments. Many commenters also compared this to the decline of Japan’s student movement, though the discussion never fully accounted for differences in historical context or social systems.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “French Government: “Crack down on the high-school protests!” 😡 Police: “We’re resigning en masse to join the protest instead” 🫡.”

  • Big Companies Say ‘We Don’t Need New Grads’ — 5ch Debates Why

    On 5ch’s “Live Commentary General” board, a thread blew up over reports that major Japanese companies are cutting back on new-graduate hiring. Posters argued that it’s not just new grads — “big companies don’t want mid-career hires or full-time employees anymore either” — and many pointed to AI taking over tasks once handled by junior staff. Others noted the stark contrast with just a few years ago, when reports described an “extreme sellers’ market” with new grads reportedly offered monthly salaries of ¥400,000, and questioned whether companies are simply unwilling to spend on training and are treating workers as disposable. Opinion split on whether AI or corporate culture is the real culprit.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:50
    There's definitely a trend now of cutting back on new grads, huh.
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:59
    Big companies: "Honestly, don't need mid-career hires either."
    That's more like it.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:01
    Re: #14
    Big companies: "Honestly, don't need full-timers either."
    This, exactly.
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:07
    Re: #15
    Yeah, that was it.
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:01
    Saw a Nikkei article a while back about companies curbing hiring because of AI — is it actually having that much impact?
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:03
    Re: #17
    A skilled person using AI can do the work of about three people now.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:04
    Veteran: "It's like this, for this reason, so go do this." → New hire: "Uh… I think it's this? Here you go." → AI
    Veteran: "Just do this." → AI

    Big companies: "Wait… do we even need new hires?"
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:06
    Re: #23
    Since AI can handle almost all desk work now, it's not just new hires — even below-average veterans will become unnecessary.
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:06
    Re: #23
    Well, in the end they're just a stopgap until then.
    If the job can be replaced, the smart move is to keep hiring to a minimum and go all-in on AI instead.
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:11
    But mid-career hires are expensive, though.
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:13
    Re: #36
    That's where they dangle the promise of a full-time hire and give you a temp/dispatch contract instead.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:14
    Re: #42
    Anyone who falls for that bait is incompetent anyway.
    Wouldn't it be better to train up cheap young workers instead?
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:11
    At some point companies stopped hiring anyone who isn't already fully formed.
    The reason things are declining across the board is probably that nobody can shake the habit of pushing the costs onto someone else.
    Unless someone's willing to eat the loss and actually train people, overall quality is never going to improve.
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:15
    Re: #38
    Big companies are supposed to take on that role as a way of giving back to society, though.
    78AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:28
    Re: #38
    Even if you train them, they quit right away, and Gen Z new grads hate being "trained" in the first place.
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:15
    Wasn't it supposed to be an extreme sellers' market, though?
    Whatever happened to those ¥400,000-a-month new grad salaries?
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:17
    Re: #44
    Those places were probably just recruiting cannon fodder with high turnover anyway, no?
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:15
    Even if you spend money training them, they just quit anyway.
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:20
    Re: #45
    But then talented people trained elsewhere come join you, right?
    It's give and take.
    If that's not happening, it just means the company doesn't have enough underlying strength to attract them.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:16
    Training is a hassle, and even trained workers can quit any time, so maybe companies just feel like it's not worth the effort.
    "Someone needs to properly train the new grads!" "Wait… us? Nah, we're not doing that 😅"
    Every company wants to free-ride off everyone else without putting in the effort themselves.

    "If we don't raise wages, demand will drop!… but we're not raising ours."
    Kind of the same vibe.
    71AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:24
    Re: #49
    Also, since some people go and teach themselves even in a terrible environment, everyone ends up strangling each other by lowering the bar.
    Isn't there some way to fix this all at once?
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:16
    Re: #43
    Nobody actually cares about the company's long-term future.
    If you're not the owner, the ideal is to look busy, coast along cozying up to the incompetent people around you, and get out before it all catches up with you.
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:21
    Re: #50
    Nobody cares about you, man.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:21
    They're useless because we drill them like crazy on exam-prep studying that's useless in real life lol
    If it were knowledge you actually need as a working adult, fine, but it's all stuff you'll never use.
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:23
    Re: #57
    How much of what you need to know as a working adult can you even learn in school, though?
    72AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:24
    Re: #57
    Uh, you do normally use language skills and math…
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:22
    Re: #56
    Well, everyone's circumstances are different.
    In that case your opinion doesn't matter much either, so we're just going to talk past each other.
    66AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:23
    Re: #63
    My opinion is a general statement of fact, but yours is just a personal impression.
    68AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:24
    Re: #66
    "Wouldn't it be better" is exactly the kind of emotional opinion you're talking about.
    Whatever, doesn't matter.
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:25
    Re: #68
    Guess I win this one.
    89AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:34
    There really are a lot of people who are just bad at teaching.
    At the company I quit, apparently two people had my position before me.
    One got transferred to another department, the other one quit.
    Stop assigning subordinates to someone like that over and over.
    92AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:36
    Re: #89
    If you get assigned to a department nobody cares about, doesn't it follow that your mentor is also going to be someone nobody cares about?
    Like being trained by someone who's already been put out to pasture.
    And they actually quit in the end, right?
    94AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:39
    Re: #89
    At my old job, whenever I asked my boss something he'd deliberately teach me the wrong answer.
    According to him, the cycle was supposed to go:
    boss teaches a lie → subordinate notices it's a lie → subordinate looks it up themselves → subordinate grows.
    But one day he started complaining, "Why doesn't anyone come ask me questions anymore?"
    Well, obviously, if you keep lying to people they're going to stop asking.
    105AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:57
    It's kind of funny seeing unemployed people seriously debating this in the middle of the day.
    I'm on paid leave myself, but what's everyone else's excuse for being here giving serious replies right now?
    106AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:59
    Re: #105
    They're probably on the management side.
    110AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:08
    Re: #105
    You should spend your paid leave on something more worthwhile, man.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Talk of companies losing their appetite for hiring new graduates has come up repeatedly in recent years, but it’s a sharp reversal from just a few years ago, when Japan’s “extreme sellers’ market” saw reports of new grads landing monthly salaries as high as ¥400,000 as companies competed to secure young talent with generous offers. If that has now flipped toward hiring restraint, the explanation most often floated is the spread of generative AI, which is increasingly taking over routine desk work and some of the tasks once used to train new hires. That said, posters in the thread also argued this is simply the same old corporate reluctance to invest in training and aversion to the cost of developing staff — a pattern that predates AI. Whether AI or Japan’s long-standing approach to human-capital investment is the real driver remains disputed. It’s also worth noting that this “we don’t need new grads” argument is a different phenomenon from the hiring crunch faced by the “lost generation” (job seekers who graduated during Japan’s earlier economic downturns) — even though both get described as companies “cutting back on hiring,” the underlying circumstances differ by era.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Live Commentary General) thread “[Ultra Breaking] Big Companies: ‘Ngl, We Don’t Really Need New Grads lol’.”

  • Yoshihiro Togashi: “I’m Turning Down Every Job With a Deadline” — Vows to Focus on His Manuscript

    This article covers a thread titled “Notice: Yoshihiro Togashi Is Done” that appeared on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, where it was reported that Togashi, citing physical and mental health problems, announced he would turn down all further work with deadlines from here on out and prioritize his own manuscript work instead. Readers reacted with comments like “I’m shocked he was even taking on work with deadlines in the first place” and “Wait, was he taking requests besides Hunter x Hunter too?”, and the thread debated the future of Hunter x Hunter’s production setup, including whether handing art duties off to disciples or assistants would be a good idea.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:34
    Due to a combination of physical and mental health issues, after I finish the request I'm currently working on, I've decided to decline all future requests for work with deadlines and prioritize my own manuscript work going forward.
    Once work on my manuscript resumes, I'll make another announcement here.
    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:38
    I'm honestly shocked he was even taking jobs with deadlines in the first place
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:43
    Wait, so he's been taking on work besides Hunter x Hunter?
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:43
    Yoshihiro Togashi, 60, manga artist
    Known for: Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:46
    I'd love to live off work where nobody cares when it actually gets finished too, whenever that may be
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:49
    So as long as there's no deadline, he wouldn't mind taking the job
    is that what this means? lol
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:51
    He's basically been living a deadline-free life for 20 years already
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:53
    He doesn't need to do anything besides Hunter
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:54
    He barely even draws Hunter as it is
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:57
    Just call it retirement already and only take jobs for people you actually know who'd understand
    why even frame it as "I'll accept work" when the conditions are this absurd lol
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:58
    Once you're mega-rich
    pulling all-nighters drawing manga while deadlines chase you must feel too stupid to keep doing
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:58
    He should just get someone who's actually good at art to draw it
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:00
    Togashi on story, his wife on art would be fine
    honestly he could just handle the concept and let his wife draw the whole thing
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:05
    I don't know his situation, but
    if he'd been able to hand things off to assistants back when he started falling behind, he might have had a completely different career as a mangaka
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:18
    I saw some new Yu Yu Hakusho illustration for an exhibition or something recently — guess that kind of work is off the table now too?
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:20
    Will Hunter x Hunter end once the ship arc wraps up?
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:30
    The sheer amount of foreshadowing for the Dark Continent and the succession arc is insane
    resolving even just that could eat up a ton of volumes going forward
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:32
    He doesn't need the money anymore, so if he's got free time he could just assist on Sailor Moon (his wife's series)
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:32
    Re: #1
    Wait, was he even doing work outside of Hunter x Hunter in the first place?
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:33
    He doesn't need to make money anymore
    he couldn't even spend it all before he dies
    this is what an artist's final act looks like
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:34
    Starve the artist and you get better work out of them (the "starving artist" idea)
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:35
    Sounds like there are still collabs lined up to launch, so maybe that's the supervisory work he's been doing
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:00
    Nobuyuki Fukumoto and Masashi Kishimoto both have their disciples draw spinoffs
    H×H should get handed off to someone too
    at this rate it's never getting finished
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:18
    Re: #40
    Fukumoto lets others draw spinoffs but never lets anyone touch the main series
    given his age, I'm starting to think Kaiji is more likely to never resume than to actually end
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:06
    Captain Tsubasa keeps running with the author doing rough storyboards since he can't finish the art himself anymore
    once you're old you can't draw like you used to, so he should just wrap it up instead of dragging it out
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:23
    Re: #42
    Next chapter:
    "Our battle is just beginning"
    and that's a fine way to end it lol
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:10
    If he were healthy, it'd probably be done by now
    health is the one thing you just can't will your way through
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:15
    Is it true he was making a doujinshi about wanting to play video games while the series was on hiatus?
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:18
    There are still Shimamura and Gindaco collab products on sale right now, so maybe this just means he's done taking on jobs like that (clothing and takoyaki chains)
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:27
    Kaiji doesn't look like it's resuming anytime soon, not while he's busy drawing Nikaido's Hell Golf (a spinoff)
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:36
    I heard he married thinking he already had enough money to never work again
    and then found out his wife had two orders of magnitude more than that
    no way you're working after finding that out
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:55
    Re: #49
    Naoko Takeuchi's earnings are on a totally different level
    and she was a jeweler's daughter to begin with
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 10:40
    Between him and his wife, there's zero chance this guy ends up destitute, so he should take it easy
    readers aren't going to complain about it at this point either

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Yoshihiro Togashi has repeatedly gone on hiatus from serialization due to health problems since the latter half of the 2000s, and resumed Hunter x Hunter in Weekly Shonen Jump in 2022. This latest announcement is about turning down external work with deadlines in order to prioritize his own manuscript work — worth noting, it does not guarantee that Hunter x Hunter itself will continue or ever be completed. In the thread, users pointed to examples like Nobuyuki Fukumoto and Masashi Kishimoto letting disciples or assistants draw spinoffs, asking whether Togashi could set up something similar, though it was also noted that both of those creators still handle their main series themselves. Togashi’s wife is Naoko Takeuchi, creator of Sailor Moon, and comments touched on the household’s combined income — this is based on publicly known information and isn’t intended as personal disparagement.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Notice: Yoshihiro Togashi Is Done.”

  • Ojarumaru’s ‘Bicycle Old Man’ Shows Up, Live-Commentary Fans React — 5ch: ‘Isn’t He Like #4 in the Popularity Poll?’

    A regular thread popped up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (Anything-Goes Live Commentary board) for watching and live-commenting on the TV anime “Ojarumaru.” Early in the broadcast, commenters noticed the appearance of “Bicycle Old Man,” a perennial fixture in the show’s character popularity polls, reacting with lines like “Isn’t he like 4th place in the popularity poll?” — and chatter built around this minor character’s cameo. Partway through, a poster claiming to live in Kagawa Prefecture brought up local broadcast details, keeping the conversation rolling with the kind of niche trivia only a long-running anime produces. True to the thread’s title, most of it stayed “friendly,” though regulars traded some light jabs along the way.

    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:28
    Oh man, it's the Bicycle Old Man episode!
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:29
    Re: #5
    For real? Isn't he like 4th place in the popularity poll?
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:30
    Re: #9
    He's already gone, you missed him
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:28
    New Mimi just showed up🐰
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:29

    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:50
    Re: #7
    Back in the day I was the one who kept getting accused of "impersonating Okera!"
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:29
    So glad I was born in Kagawa Prefecture
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:32
    Re: #8
    Wait, does Kagawa even air Ojarumaru?
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:31
    Ojarumaru fans be like: (lol, wouldn't it be funny if we voted some random passerby guy to the top of the poll) ← that's exactly the kind of taste that makes you lose to Hanakappa (a rival kids' anime character)
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:32
    Just go ahead and get together already, Reitessai (the stern, icy priest character)
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:34
    Kazuma's head looks gross no matter how many times I see it
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:35
    This is an anime only the truly unemployed have time to live-comment on😏
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:36
    Re: #27
    Guess I can't actually comment on it after all
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:37
    Re: #27
    Well, the thread title itself has "minande" in it too (a pun — reads as "all together" but sounds like "don't even watch")
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:39

    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 08:44
    Re: #46
    What do you mean, "mano"? (likely local dialect slang, unclear without more context)
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:17
    94AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:24
    【Mirai Nazukari】
    95AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:24
    【Team Mimori】
    https://yuyuyu.tv/daimankai/story/img/01/01_06.jpg
    104AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:39
    Is everyone asleep?
    107AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:41
    Re: #104
    Maybe the night-shift folks went to bed
    105AnonymousOct 6, 2026 09:39

    Background and Talking Points

    “Ojarumaru” is a long-running anime that has aired on NHK Educational TV since 1998, and the culture of live-commenting on a broadcast in real time is specific to the “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board. A hallmark of these threads is that a side character’s standing in popularity polls — like “Bicycle Old Man” here — tends to spark conversation more readily than the main story, and this time his appearance kicked off the thread’s first wave of excitement. The conversation also touched on local broadcast details after a poster identifying as living in Kagawa Prefecture chimed in, though it’s worth noting this was just one commenter’s personal account and doesn’t guarantee the same broadcast applies uniformly across the prefecture. Meanwhile, the back half of the thread mixed in some identity-poking jabs and sexual remarks among apparent regulars, so those posts have been excluded from this article. On the whole, rather than splitting opinion over any single issue, the thread mostly consisted of casual chatter about characters and broadcasters.

    ※This article is compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Let’s All Watch Ojarumaru Together and Commentate Nicely🏡.”

  • Jobless Reincarnation’s Original Author Under Fire Too — 5ch: “It’s Messed Up That the Panty Theft Got a Pass”

    Popular VTuber Pekora sparked a stir when she expressed outrage while watching the anime “Jobless Reincarnation,” reacting angrily to the infidelity scene involving the protagonist’s father, Paul — and the backlash spread all the way to the original author. On 5ch threads, while Paul’s affair kept getting slammed, commenters repeatedly questioned why almost nobody calls out protagonist Rudeus himself for his own past of stealing heroine Roxy’s underwear. Posters also pointed to the deep-rooted ethics typical of the “Narou-style” isekai genre, and argued that excessive fan defense is actually fueling the backlash rather than calming it. In the end, opinions never converged.

    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:33
    It's seriously messed up that stealing Roxy's panties got no punishment at all.
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:50
    Re: #2

    Here you go
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:35
    The fact that it's really a gross middle-aged guy on the inside doing that stuff is genuinely disgusting.
    If he weren't wearing a hot-guy skin, that'd just be a straight-up sex offender.
    75AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:08
    Re: #7
    Getting a free pass just because he's handsome, naturally lol
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:36
    Ever since Pekora watched it and lost it at Paul, Jobless Reincarnation has been getting dragged nonstop lol
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:46
    Re: #10
    Pekora really is the top dog (most influential VTuber right now), huh
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:37
    Paul gets blamed for cheating, but Rudeus stealing Roxy's panties doesn't get blamed… come on.
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:42
    Re: #11
    Doesn't feel fair unless Zenith (Paul's wife) chews him out for it too.
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:45
    Re: #11
    Well, he was a minor at the time…
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:39
    Isekai reincarnation stuff is only watched by loser guys who've failed at life and convinced themselves that if they got reborn, they'd become competent, have their life go great, and get popular with women.
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:52
    Re: #14
    Isekai reincarnation stuff is only watched by older single women who've failed at life and convinced themselves that if they got reborn, they'd become a beautiful girl, have their life go great, and get popular with men.
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:45
    Both Rudeus and Paul are hopeless scumbags, so I don't get why criticizing them gets you snapped at by the fanboys.
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:49
    Re: #22
    That's on your vocabulary. If you come at it with middle-school-girl level one-liners like "trash," "scum," "gross" — basically just trolling — no fanbase in any community is going to take that well.
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:50
    Well yeah, stuff like treating Roxy's panties as a sacred relic or the plot where it cures his ED is genuinely creepy, and it barely adds anything to how enjoyable the show actually is.
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:56
    Re: #30
    He's clearly got the skill to write an interesting story, so he should just dial that stuff back.
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:52

    Wait, is Pekora's reaction actually getting to them?
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:57
    Re: #35
    The 🐰 fandom's (Pekora's, going by the bunny-ears emoji) pile-on against Paul is actually landing lol
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:56
    It's a story about a scummy, shut-in NEET from his past life trying hard in another world — if you can't tolerate the scummy part, you shouldn't be watching it in the first place.
    112AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:22
    Re: #40
    In the end it's all for his own sake though, right? I don't know much about the series, but I'm not a fan of that logic.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:59

    I feel like this one's pretty bad too, but unlike Paul she never gets criticized at all.
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:01
    Re: #49
    Elinalise's chastity got scrambled by a curse, so…
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:01
    So the style now is to seriously get mad at a fictional character in a scripted drama?
    Ranting on social media about a novel or anime script with "Gross! So gross!" — are they drunk or something?
    67AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:05
    Re: #54
    Back in the Showa era, there were idiots who'd actually complain in person to an actor for playing a villain role on a drama.
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:03
    It'd be fine to just say "gross is gross," but the fanboys pull these acrobatic defenses, which only fans the flames more.
    Before reincarnation he's a sex offender secretly filming his niece, and after reincarnation he's a sex offender who steals panties and treats them like a sacred object — that's an undeniable fact.
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:04
    Re: #60
    Going by the presumption of innocence, he's not technically a criminal.
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:06
    Re: #60
    Did the author actually think this was funny?
    The dirty jokes are middle-school level.
    Or does it come from some condescending bias like "well, the gross otaku watching Narou-style isekai are fine with this anyway"?
    76AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:08
    Mii Yama, Shigure Ui, stuff like that — don't recent controversies keep spreading further because of clumsy defenses?
    81AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:11
    Re: #76
    That's how most controversies go.
    Some idiots go on a rampage with defenses that are way too much of a stretch, and it ends up getting even the bystanders on the sidelines to start piling on too.
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:11
    Re: #76
    Messing with a real person is on a totally different level from a simple dirty joke, though.
    80AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:11
    The one character here who's a flawless voice of reason is this guy.
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:13

    Slime (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) can do collabs but Jobless Reincarnation can't — is that really down to compliance issues?
    97AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:16
    Re: #90
    You'd think at least Roxy and Eris could still manage a collab, though.
    96AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:16
    So who's an isekai (Narou-style) protagonist you all actually approve of?
    Is he even in this lineup?
    113AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:22
    Isn't a morally bankrupt protagonist basically a 1,500-year-old Japanese tradition going back to The Tale of Genji?
    Isn't it weird to start criticizing that now?
    121AnonymousOct 6, 2026 00:26
    Re: #113
    He's supposed to be a modern person though — it's pretty messed up if his morals are stuck at the same level as some ancient work of fiction…

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    “Jobless Reincarnation” has been known since it first aired as a show that invites scrutiny over its ethics, thanks to elements like the protagonist’s past as a NEET shut-in in his previous life, or the storyline where the heroine’s underwear gets treated as a “sacred relic.” This time, an outside perspective — a VTuber’s live reaction — reignited a long-simmering point about an internal contradiction: the father’s affair gets slammed, while the protagonist’s own past misdeeds get a pass. The thread was split over whether to treat this criticism as a legitimate question about the story’s internal consistency, or as an overreaction to a work of fiction. There were also comments pointing to a pattern seen in other past franchise and VTuber controversies — where overly aggressive fan defense ends up turning even bystanders against them and spreading the backlash further — making this a debate that goes beyond just one series.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Jobless Reincarnation Guy Finally Gets Even the Original Author Dragged Too lol.”

  • Railfans Who Dreamed of Riding Every JNR Line: 5ch Remembers the ‘Great Journey: 20,000 Km Challenge’

    A thread titled “I wanted to travel all over Japan in the Japan National Railways (JNR) era” popped up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, where veteran railway fans traded memories of those days. At its peak, JNR’s network spanned roughly 20,000 km of track, and under the catchphrase “Great Journey: 20,000 Km Challenge,” a whole style of travel grew up around trying to ride every single line. The thread ranged from the growing number of fans who never got to experience a sleeper train or a dining car, to nostalgia for the express trains and local lines that vanished around privatization, all the way to present-day gripes that the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension and the revised Seishun 18 Ticket rules have made using conventional lines even more of a hassle.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:26
    Getting to ride the Hokutosei sleeper during my loop around Hokkaido was the one saving grace.
    My parents were from the Niigata countryside, but we weren't well-off when I was a kid — couldn't even snag reserved seats, let alone set foot in the dining car.
    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:34
    I wanted to ride a Series 583.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:14
    Re: #2
    >Series 583
    I rode one, but only a daytime run.
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:34
    Gotta conquer all ~20,000 km of the old JNR network before it's all abandoned.
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:38
    Apparently more and more people have never ridden a sleeper train — how come?
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:39
    There are people who've never eaten in a dining car either, you know.
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:39
    I remember the catchphrase being "Great Journey: 20,000 Km Challenge."
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:42
    The snack lounge on the Joetsu/Tohoku Shinkansen lasted until the Heisei era — commuting home was brutal, so I rode it a lot just between Tokyo and Omiya.
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:43
    Using an old Shinkaisoku (rapid service) train as a sleeper limited express feels like it's missing the point somehow.
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:44
    Shunzo Miyawaki's railway travel essays are great, aren't they?
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:44
    I rode every JNR line in the early JR years, but the local dead-end branch lines I went through so much trouble to ride ended up getting scrapped anyway — feels like a waste now.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:47
    At Niconico Chōkaigi they ran a Series 583 sleeper out of Osaka, I remember that.
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:48
    A lot of people used to say "we've got cars now, who needs trains," so I guess this was inevitable.
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:49
    Re: #15
    Nowadays it's "I drive myself so I don't use trains, but don't you dare shut the railway down!"
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:50
    A classmate's family home was in Suzu, Noto — just hearing about it made me jealous.
    20AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:50
    JNR's total track length was about 20,000 km. Just a bit of trivia.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:53
    Re: #20
    Already been said.
    You're the fifth person to post that.
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:52
    Tokyo → Seikan ferry → Hokkaido → Wakkanai → Chihaku ferry → Sakhalin → trains across Sakhalin.
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:55
    I wanted to ride the San'in Line's Train 724 the whole way from Moji to Fukuchiyama.
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:55
    Around 2002 I took the overnight train from Abashiri to Sapporo, but the diesel engine's roar kept me from sleeping a wink.
    There was a sleeper car attached, but you couldn't use it with a rail pass.
    Got into Sapporo at 5am and bought a MANZOKU rice ball at the kiosk.
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:18
    Re: #28
    Back at the end of last century I slept on that same train every night using an excursion pass — somewhere around Wakkanai, Kushiro, or Abashiri.
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:57
    I sometimes ride the Hachiko Line (the Hachioji–Takasaki line) up to Takasaki and back.
    Whenever I go to Hachioji Olympus Hall it makes me want to hop on it.
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:57
    I've ridden every line in Japan, and every time a new one opens I go ride it for the first time.
    Next up is the Okayama Electric Tramway next March.
    Since I'm a Mikumiku otaku (a Hatsune Miku fan), I'm planning to hunt down spots connected to her while I'm there.

    When the Hokuriku Shinkansen extended to Tsuruga, I got off at Kaga-Onsen Station and ran into a familiar Hello! Project otaku, of all people.
    Found out later there'd been an event out front the station with Natsuki Hime appearing.
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:01
    The Niseko express — Trains 1 and 2 were popular for being pulled by the C62-class locomotive, especially unit No. 2, which kept its "Tsubame" livery.
    Train 4 (KiHa 56), running Nemuro to Hakodate, was a genuine east-west crossing of Hokkaido.
    33AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:06
    Lines where the old-style passenger coaches (kyūkyaku) were still hanging in there were a lot of fun.
    And for EMUs, nothing beats a tsurikake (axle-hung motor) drive.
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:08
    Got a shot in Sapporo of the Hokutosei being hauled by a pair of blue DD51 locomotives.
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:08
    It left its mark in both Hokkaido (Asahikawa) and Kyushu (Kagoshima) — KuHa 481-1508.
    Now it's resting in Niigata.
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:10
    I loved those round buttons on the ticket machines with the fares printed right on them.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:20
    I wanted to cross the old Amarube bridge back in the day too.
    Had the free time, just not the money.
    If I'd known a few years sooner that even a middle-aged guy could use the Seishun 18 Ticket, I'd have gone traveling.
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:53
    Re: #40
    The scenery's great, but you can't actually see the bridge itself from the train.
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:21
    Back when I was a student I slept on trains plenty of times — and in stations too, come to think of it.
    42AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:33
    Back when the JNR Nibori ferry route existed, you could plan a whole loop trip without ever doubling back.
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:35
    With public transit in tatters these days, that all sounds like ancient history.
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:35
    Even a current Matsuyama City Hall employee today had never heard of the Nibori ferry route lol
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:37
    1982
    https://meishousen.org/discoverjapan/tabi/198208-hokkaido/map.jpg
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:46
    Re: #45
    If the Kōhin-Hokusen and Kōhin-Nansen lines, and the Hidaka Main Line and Hiroo Line, had ever been connected, you'd have had one grand round-Hokkaido route.
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:38
    Back in elementary school I feel like I saw ads for "Great Journey: 20,000 Km Challenge!" plastered all over magazines.
    Even the manga Dokaben had something called "Blue Train Academy" in it.
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:42
    Right around when I was finally old enough to travel freely on my own, JNR went and got privatized.
    Still wore out the Seishun 18 Ticket anyway, though.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:44
    Re: #47
    And now that same 18 Ticket's been hit with a terrible revision too.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:45
    Nobuhiko Obayashi's film Haishi ("The Deserted City") has rare footage of Chikugo-Yanagawa Station on the JNR Saga Line not long before it was shut down.
    The Chikugogawa Shōkōbashi — the JNR Saga Line's lift bridge where the track itself rises up like an elevator — is now a walking path you can cross on foot.
    Ask the staff nicely and they'll even raise it for you.
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:47
    Even before that, the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension tore the conventional lines to shreds.
    If things get made worse still, you won't even have options left to choose between.
    All that's left is "well, it's a bit cheaper, so I guess I'll use it" when heading out somewhere far.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Great Journey: 20,000 Km Challenge” was a catchphrase referring to the roughly 20,000 km of track JNR operated at its peak, and at the time, riding every single line was talked up as a goal for railway fans. In the thread, that figure gets cited again and again, and the conversation centers on nostalgia for the trains, services, and rolling stock — sleeper cars, dining cars, express-type diesel railcars — that disappeared around the time of privatization. Where opinion split was over a jab aimed at “the generation that used to say cars made trains unnecessary,” with some pointing out that the old push for efficiency leads in a straight line to today’s complaints about line closures and service cuts. One point readers could easily get wrong is the Amarube story: the current Amarube Bridge is a concrete structure rebuilt in 2010, so from today’s train windows you can no longer actually see the famous old steel trestle itself. Also, since 2024 the rules around the Seishun 18 Ticket’s valid days and split usage have changed, and the thread’s complaints are grounded in that real policy change.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “I Wanted to Travel All Over Japan in the JNR Era.”

  • Leg Cramp Brings Idol Souma Yuume to Tears — Photo Sparks Reaction, 5ch Rallies ‘Hang in There, Yuume’

    A photo showing Souma Yuume, a member of a Hello! Project idol group, crying in pain after her leg cramped up during what appears to be a dance lesson was posted by the group’s official account, sparking discussion on the 5ch forums. While many called her pained expression “shocking,” sympathetic and supportive comments poured in alongside tips for dealing with leg cramps. The thread also featured debate over whether it was appropriate to publicize someone in visible pain, as well as stories of other members experiencing the same thing during past live performances — offering an unexpected glimpse behind the scenes of idol life.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:24
    Rosy Chronicle@Rosy_Chronicle
    This is what happens to humans when they cramp up.
    #おとどけロージー (“Delivering Rosy”)
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:26
    I thought she was crying because Dakarin (a fellow member's nickname) stole her underwear
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:26
    Kyaaa!!
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:27
    So cute
    Like a little kid
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:27
    She's already in high school, isn't she
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:27
    This'll do for today
    Sorry, Yuume-chan
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:30
    You're just dehydrated
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:31
    I thought she was being tortured
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:32
    I can't wrap my head around the mindset of posting someone crying and suffering in pain like this
    that's just mean-spirited
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:33
    Yeah, this is the kind of thing you'd want to post
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:33
    The instant you feel a cramp coming on, yank your big toe toward you hard and it won't cramp
    using your hand to pull the big toe toward you guarantees it, but just flexing the big toe in that direction works too
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:34
    That's a shocking photo
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:36
    She's probably desperate in the moment, but
    sorry Yume-chan, even your pained face is way too cute
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:37
    I've been watching a lot of Vietnam War documentaries lately,
    so now all I see is Souma-chan crying amid the ravages of war
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:37
    So-man forced into a "scorching dogeza" (meme reference to kneeling in apology on a red-hot surface)
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:39
    Cramping up during a lesson means they're really pushing her hard
    Hang in there, Yuume
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:39
    Flexing your toes back can ease it, but that's tough when you're wearing those chunky stage shoes
    33AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:40
    Wasn't it supposed to help if you press around the Achilles tendon?
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:42
    Eat two bananas
    monkeys don't get leg cramps, right?
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:43
    Hello Pro members cry over the littlest things way too much
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:44
    Crying over it probably means it's her first time
    once you're used to it, it's nothing
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:45
    Now that I think about it, I've almost never seen a Hello Pro member cramp up during an actual live show
    though you'd think it'd happen a fair bit given how hard they're pushed in lessons and performances
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:57
    Re: #41
    There's a Juice=Juice live Blu-ray where Eba talks in the MC about cramping up right at that moment
    it's on the bonus live disc for Juice Story or whatever it was called
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:01
    Re: #41
    Ishiyama Sakura mentioned during an MC that her leg cramped up too
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:48
    That sad face looks AI-generated
    53AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:00
    With Sayu, stuff like that was practically part of the drama too
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:01
    Does it hurt?
    It'll be over soon, just hang in there
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:04
    There's something white dripping from her eyes, what is that?
    64AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:13
    Re: #56
    Makeup melted by the tears
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:08
    Souma Yuume, moved to tears by a first-time experience
    60AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:09
    65AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:15
    If the words are blurred by tears,
    please understand (echoing the lyric of a famous Japanese love-letter song)
    66AnonymousOct 5, 2026 23:16
    Quite the shocking photo
    like, would an idol group really put this out there?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Leg cramps, or “muscle spasms,” are typically caused by overexertion or a lack of water and minerals, and can occur during intense dance lessons as well as actual live performances. In the thread, some pointed out that members like Ishiyama Sakura and Juice=Juice performers had described similar experiences during past live MCs, suggesting such incidents aren’t unusual in the idol world. What sparked debate this time, however, was the fact that the official account itself posted an image of a member in visible pain. While most of the response was supportive and sympathetic, some comments expressed discomfort with publicizing someone’s pained expression, showing that fans’ reactions weren’t all the same. Practical advice also emerged, such as the tip that pulling the big toe back toward you can prevent a cramp — making the thread more than just a simple reaction roundup.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Image] Souma Yuume bursts into tears after her leg cramps up lolololololololololololololololololol.”

  • Track-Meet Entry Blunder: Governor Yoshimura Steps In, but Japan Athletics Federation Says ‘No Special Treatment’

    The Osaka Junior High School Athletic Federation, run by middle school teachers across Osaka Prefecture, failed to complete the entry procedure for this month’s Junior Olympic U16 Track and Field Championships in Mie Prefecture, leaving eight middle and high schoolers who had been selected to represent Osaka unable to compete. Governor Hirofumi Yoshimura asked the Japan Association of Athletics Federations (JAAF) to make an exception, but the federation pointed to system logs showing the staff member had logged in just one minute before the entry deadline, and refused any special treatment. On 5ch, opinion split between sympathy for the blameless kids and a principle-driven argument that granting an exception would break consistency with past precedent.

    JOC Track Meet Entry Oversight: Governor Yoshimura’s Request Denied, Japan Athletics Federation Says ‘No Relief Measures’

    Eight middle and high schoolers from Osaka Prefecture have been barred from competing in this month’s national championship because of a late entry submission by Osaka’s athletics federation, and the Japan Association of Athletics Federations, which hosts the event, has announced it will “not implement relief measures.”

    The eight students, who live in Osaka Prefecture, were selected to represent Osaka at a meet held in Osaka City last month and were set to compete in this month’s Junior Olympic U16 Championships in Mie Prefecture — but it came out that the Osaka Junior High School Athletic Federation (made up of middle school teachers from around the prefecture) had never actually completed the entry paperwork.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:08
    If they let this slide, every deadline the federation sets from now on becomes meaningless, so it can't be allowed.

    If the delay was actually caused by some flaw in the entry guidelines themselves, that'd be a different story and should be excused.
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:13
    Re: #12
    Exactly this.
    Plus it'd set a precedent that stuff gets waved through if the governor just asks.
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:18
    I get the sentiment, but granting relief would just make for a nice feel-good story, nothing more.
    It's weird to turn around and paint the Japan Athletics Federation as the villain just because they didn't bend the rules. Must be infuriating for them.
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:20
    Feel bad for the kids, but making an exception isn't good either.
    Everything has to be handled the same way across the board, or you lose consistency with both past and future cases.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:25
    Re: #29
    'We didn't grant relief before, so we won't now' is a weird excuse.

    Isn't it more important to not create new victims, even if you catch flak for it?
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:20
    Re: #27
    Being cast as the villain is just unavoidable here.
    They simply prioritized the rules over everything else.

    That said, the students did originally have the right to compete, and since they're not at fault, it might've been fine to make an exception.
    Just punish whoever actually screwed up and call it settled.
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:24
    Re: #30
    This is fundamentally the junior-high federation's own problem to begin with.

    I get that the junior-high federation runs on volunteer teachers, so there's that context too — but when the timeline is laid out this clearly, blaming the athletics federation for refusing is a textbook case of 'might makes right' trumping reason.

    I get asking 'can't you make an exception?' But attacking them for the answer being no is beyond unreasonable.
    Makes you wonder if that means however Hara or Aoyama Gakuin (famous for the Hakone Ekiden relay) run things is just fine too.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:25
    Re: #35
    It wasn't the middle schoolers or high schoolers who messed up — it was the adults.
    Making kids shoulder the consequences of an adult's mistake isn't education.
    Protecting kids is what adults are supposed to do.
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:29
    Re: #35
    I don't know enough about how Aoyama Gakuin operates, so no comment there.
    Getting criticized for sticking to the rules is just something you have to accept.

    You call it unreasonable, but holding the line on rules sometimes takes the conviction to stand firm even under criticism.
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:25
    They cut it way too close, lol ('草' = net slang for LOL, literally 'grass').

    • The prefectural athletics association contacted the federation saying their staff member tried to submit the entry through the system around 17:50 on September 24, but the submit button wouldn't appear, and asked them to look into it.

    • When the Japan Athletics Federation checked the system logs, it turned out the prefectural staff member had logged into the entry system for the first time about one minute before the application period closed at 18:00 on September 24, and was mid-way through the entry process when the clock passed 18:00 — at which point the submit button disappeared from the system. This was that staff member's very first login; there was no login history at all from the start of the application period (from noon on August 21, 2026) until that moment.
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:27
    Re: #36
    Can't even do the job right AND has a habit of lying about it — might as well fire the guy.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:27
    Re: #36
    What is this, a last-second auction bid?
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:27
    It's a good chance to teach them that rules exist — that you should leave yourself enough margin to not blow a deadline.
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:32
    Re: #45
    The kids already followed the rules — there's nothing for THEM to learn here.
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:27
    Re: #40
    They're just using the kids as a shield to erase an adult's screwup.
    Just tell the kids not to trust foolish adults.
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:29
    Re: #46
    Just punish the adults properly — pay cuts, demotions, whatever.
    The kids genuinely did nothing wrong here.
    80AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:42
    Re: #55
    That's a line the Japan Athletics Federation gets to say — not something we get to say.
    I think speaking up is fine, and personally I'm okay with pushing for relief through political pressure in a case like this too.

    But still complaining after they've already reached that conclusion is a different matter. You're aiming at the wrong target.
    Especially since the federation laid out the whole timeline and their response in detail. If there were some flaw like too short a window, fine — but that's not what happened here.
    If you force them to say yes to this, you open the door to anything going. Surely you get that making a big fuss carries that risk too.
    82AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:45
    Re: #80
    Making a decision means taking on responsibility —
    so of course you'll face criticism for it.

    You say it's the wrong target, but it's simply wrong for people who followed the rules to be the ones punished.
    98AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:54
    Re: #82
    That's the outcome after weighing all of that. They even put the junior-high federation's negligence on the table for consideration.
    The kids are undeniably victims, but granting this could spiral out of control.
    From a consistency standpoint, adults need to respect that they had no choice but to decide this way.
    And aiming that decision at the Japan Athletics Federation is still wrong — they're following the rules too, same as anyone.

    If you're a kid saying this as a kid, I get it as an emotional reaction, and fair enough.
    111AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:00
    Re: #98
    Getting criticized isn't unfair at all —
    making a decision naturally carries the risk of criticism.

    Also, your argument contradicts itself.
    You're saying it's fine for the middle schoolers who followed the rules to be barred, but not fine for the federation that followed the rules to be criticized — that's the exact opposite logic.
    93AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:51
    Ignoring their own screwup and holding the kids hostage to force a concession —
    that's basically yakuza (gangster) tactics, honestly.
    96AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:53
    Re: #93
    That said, the kids are completely blameless, no?
    If they won't even budge on something this small, that side's being yakuza too.
    Yakuza vs. yakuza — both sides suck.
    100AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:55
    'We never granted relief before, so we never will' is a shaky stance too.
    Go by that logic and you'd never be able to fix any bad practice or outdated rule, ever.
    105AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:57
    Re: #100
    If it's going to change, it can only change for future cases from here on.
    On the other hand, I think the 'no exceptions, period' stance carries real weight given everything that led to it.

    If they had decided to grant relief, that would've been a bold call and a lucky break — but treating that as something you're entitled to demand is strange.
    That said, I totally get that it's unbearable from the perspective of the people actually affected.
    101AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:55
    Grown adults have no business wrecking a kid's future.
    If they can't even make an exception for something this minor, the federation should quit running kids' competitions altogether.
    Putting kids first should be obvious, idiot.
    102AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:56
    Re: #101
    Go tell that to the teachers, lol.
    103AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:57
    Re: #98
    Stripping away the future of a kid who did nothing wrong over some vague excuse like 'it'll spiral out of control' — there's no justifying that.
    If they can't even tolerate that much, they should quit running a federation for kids.
    109AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:59
    Re: #103
    What about past cases, then?
    Does it get approved just because it blows up into a big enough fuss? There are similar cases outside track and field too — are you saying nothing should be done about those either?

    If relief is the right call, how exactly would you carry it out? I don't know how far back the old cases go, but what happens to all the ones that didn't get relief?
    Is there no answer to that? Are you going to go back and rerun this year's meet retroactively?
    114AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:01
    Re: #109
    Going forward, you just make sure whoever actually screwed up gets punished. That's it.
    116AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:01
    Re: #109
    Setting aside the question of what even letting adults run the JOC accomplishes — by your logic, you'd never be able to change or revise any rule, ever.
    107AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:57
    Re: #96
    Sport means competing within the rules — asking to bend them just this once because it's convenient means you don't deserve to compete.
    108AnonymousOct 5, 2026 21:59
    Re: #107
    That logic only applies if the kids themselves were at fault.
    Of course Osaka's side needs to be held accountable for this — but that's a separate matter.
    113AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:01
    Re: #63
    There's a lesson here too: leave things to incompetent people, and this is what happens.
    120AnonymousOct 5, 2026 22:03
    Re: #113
    Don't need a 'lesson' that teaches you not even teachers can be trusted, lol.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The Junior Olympic U16 is a national championship for middle and high schoolers hosted by the Japan Association of Athletics Federations, in which each prefecture’s athletics association submits entries through an online system. The core issue here is that although the application window ran for more than a month — from noon on August 21 through 18:00 on September 24 — the Osaka Junior High School Athletic Federation’s staff member logged into the system for the very first time just one minute before that deadline. The Japan Athletics Federation has published its system logs, making it all but certain this was a delay on the staff member’s end rather than any technical outage. The thread’s core disagreement pits those who argue an exception should be made since the kids bear no responsibility against those who argue that granting even one exception would undermine consistency with past and future decisions — and no consensus was reached on which side is right. It’s also worth noting that the Osaka Junior High School Athletic Federation is reportedly run by teachers as an unpaid, volunteer side duty, hinting at a weak organizational structure behind the scenes — though the thread didn’t dig deeply into that angle.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch Nandemo Jikkyo G board thread “Governor Yoshimura: ‘The kids did nothing wrong! Let them compete!’ — Athletics Federation: ‘No way! We can’t make a one-time exception here!’“