Category: Idols

  • Tsubaki Factory’s 3 Rookies Sell Out Their First Birthday Events — 5ch: “Hello! Project Otaku Are All About Skill”

    The official account announced that Tsubaki Factory’s Nishimura Itsuki’s first birthday event, held on October 9 at Starlight Theater, sold out both shows through same-day ticket reservations alone. The thread also noted that the first birthday events for Hayashi and Nagano, held around the same time, had likewise sold out completely, with commenters praising all three rookies for getting off to a strong start together. At the same time, some pointed out that since the guests included fellow group member “King” and Juice=Juice’s "Nina", the turnout might owe more to the guests’ pulling power than to the birthday member’s own popularity — sparking some back-and-forth about differences in venue capacity.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:04
    Regarding the "Tsubaki Factory Nishimura Itsuki Birthday Event 2026" being held on Friday, October 9 at Starlight Theater: same-day ticket reservations have already reached the planned capacity, so there will be no same-day ticket sales at the venue. Thank you for your understanding in advance.
    #TsubakiFactory #NishimuraItsuki
    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:07
    King! King! My number one! (a cutesy spelling of "ichioshi" — "my favorite")
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:19
    The King-and-Nina combo is just unfair.
    9AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:23
    That's because Tsubaki has a member serving as MC — it's basically a two-for-one turnout boost. Other groups either have the "Jōjō Gundan" (a go-to emcee crew) or no MC at all.
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:26
    Tsubaki members are pretty strong when it comes to birthday events
    There's a clear gap in venue capacity compared to Biolo (likely another Hello! Project act).
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:32
    Why didn't they just keep it secret?
    Now that they've named names, of course the "heard-it-leaked" newbies are gonna show up.
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:34
    Amazing — now Marin can graduate without any regrets.
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:34
    The first round is secret, technically.
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:09
    Re: #17
    It's not secret though.
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:35
    Looks like King alone has more otaku than all three Saniko members combined (Saniko = a trio nickname).
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:41
    If it's King, the place would've sold out even without Nina.
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:41
    That's because Hayashi is the one who came up with the nickname "King."
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:42
    Hayashi, Nishimura, and Nagano all sold out their first birthday events — impressive.
    Guess Hello! Project otaku really are all about skill after all.
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:45
    Just make every Tsubaki event have Niai as the guest from now on.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:45
    Resa and Doigo are stronger than Hayashi, aren't they? (fan nicknames)
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:51
    Re: #28
    That's a stretch.
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:49
    Go off to BEYOOOOONDS with a smile.
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:52
    For Hayashi's next one, I think they could bump it up to Funabori (a bigger venue).
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:57
    Juice=Juice's group popularity is so overwhelming now that you can't even gauge individual members' popularity anymore.
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:15
    Motchi: Yurakucho Asahi Hall, 772 seats
    Momoya: Square Ebara, 362 seats ←lolololol
    King: Airship Theater, 508 seats
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:23
    Re: #39
    She gets underrated just for being in Angerme.
    That agency's trash as always.
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:33
    Re: #39
    Niai did 3 shows, including one in Nagoya, you know.
    She actually drew the biggest crowd of anyone.
    Did you know that?
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:21
    All three selling out is impressive.
    It's rare for a whole batch of rookies to get off to such a good start together like this.
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:23
    Nina's just a victim of the whole-hall block booking.
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:26
    Wondered what was up with King, and
    turns out Hayashi's the guest. Total cheat code.
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:27
    King's "bangs guy" power really worked (a running joke about King's hairstyle).
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:28
    Tsubaki's riding on Juice=Juice's coattails.
    Even the top-liked TikToks are mostly Juice-related.
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:29
    King hinted at the MC lineup,
    posted that you'd be missing out if you don't come,
    kept hyping it up after Nina was announced —

    it's completely riding on Nina.
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:30
    Doing well despite being the same week as Marin's event.
    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:30
    Nagano sold out both shows with no second round and no guest.
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:31
    Nagano's super popular, and yet she's getting fire-saled in Fukuoka lol
    58AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:33
    Itsuki, why'd you announce Hayashi as a guest?
    Now even the unwanted "heard-it-leaked" newbies are gonna show up.
    59AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:34
    At the first-round stage it was only mentioned vaguely on the blog,
    so it barely reached Juice=Juice fans.
    61AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:35
    People who aren't even in the fan club should stop stirring up pointless rivalry drama lol
    67AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:52
    Don't say I didn't warn you if you regret it… — Nishimura Itsuki
    2026-08-30 21:20:18
    https://ameblo.jp/tsubaki-factory-new/entry-12977266948.html
    Everyone!
    Registration for the birthday event
    closes tomorrow at noon!!!!!!!
    You HAVE to come!!!!
    It's my very first birthday event, you know?!!
    Is it really okay if you don't come?!!!!
    Please!! Come!!!!
    I'll be waiting!!!!
    Don't say I didn't warn you if you end up regretting it, okay?
    Still figuring out what we're gonna do!
    The setlist's slowly coming together

    It's gonna be so much fun…🍹
    Is it really okay not to come…💚
    I'll be waiting for you…👓

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Hello! Project’s “birthday events” are solo shows held for the member whose birthday it is, rather than the whole group — since they depend less on other members, the birthday member’s own drawing power tends to show up directly in the numbers. That’s why the thread kept citing venue capacities (772, 362, 508 seats, and so on): a “sellout” can mean very different things depending on the size of the hall. There were also cases where the guests were fellow group members or Juice=Juice members, which split opinion in the thread over whether the turnout reflected the guest’s pull or the birthday member’s own popularity.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “The “Tsubaki Factory Nishimura Itsuki Birthday Event 2026,” held Friday, October 9 at Starlight Theater, has sold out both shows.“.

  • Morning Musume Newcomer Ishikawa Kano’s Singing Wows Fans: “Is a New Ace Born?”

    In footage aired on the October 2, 2026 episode of Hello! Pro Station, the voice of new Morning Musume member Ishikawa Kano became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Despite being given zero singing parts, her vocal ability stood out so much that posters reacted with surprise, saying things like “giving her zero lines is a glitch” and “she’s way too good for someone with no experience.” The thread debated the gap between her lack of singing experience and her actual skill, as well as how singing parts are being divided up among existing members.

    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:20
    It's wild how a successor always shows up right when Oda is about to graduate
    Like how Habu Yoshiharu declined just as Fujii Sota rose
    Like how Ichiro declined just as Shohei Ohtani rose
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:21
    She can sing this well and they're giving her zero lines? That's got to be a glitch
    Meanwhile there are seniors way worse than her
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:26
    Re: #6
    The other two are so hopeless that Ishikawa's getting caught in the blast radius
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:24
    Non-non (Ishikawa's nickname) is way too talented
    Incredible at both singing and dancing
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:25
    Re: #11
    That's practically a setup for her getting bullied
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:25
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:26
    https://imgur.com/5Yl9oIK.jpeg
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:28
    Re: #13
    They'd been bringing in no-skill members for ages, so suddenly dropping in a skilled one throws things off like this — if they're going to keep adding skilled members, the generation above her needs to be stacked with skilled members too, or it just doesn't balance out
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:31
    "Finally, a kid who can actually sing joined!"
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:31
    Homamei hell averted, yesss!! (a mocking nickname for a pairing of members whose singing was seen as weak)
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:34
    Re: #20
    Mei-chan's voice might be an acquired taste, but Okamura's voice is the kind that appeals to everyone, right?
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:31
    She's got a face that's clearly going to get cuter
    If you guys are gonna hold back, I'll make her my top oshi (favorite member)
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:35
    https://youtu.be/HqCoDpvU_Bk?t=59

    Ishikawa's movement right here is amazing — her head stays completely still while everything from the neck down ripples
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:36
    It's great that her voice isn't muffled — it cuts through clean, really satisfying to listen to
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:37
    I hope they raise Non-non carefully without overworking her
    Oda and Reina have freakishly strong voices, but watching Ai-chan and Morito-chi struggle makes me feel bad for them
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:37
    https://imgur.com/NJudpsR.jpeg
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:40
    Turns out Yasuda can sing better than Suzuki
    35AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:42
    Oda's only "good" by Morning Musume's standards anyway
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:43
    I want to hear Ishikawa sing a full song solo
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:43
    Once Oda graduates, let's bump up Kano's singing parts
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:46
    The crazy thing is Ishikawa has zero singing experience and still pulls this off
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:47
    I wonder if they actually explained why they're sidelining her on vocals despite this
    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:54
    Re: #43
    Singing-part allocation doesn't track with skill anyway — even Ishida gets a ton of lines
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:47
    Singing is talent
    Experience doesn't matter
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:48
    I think Yuumi barely had any singing experience either, if I remember right
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:48
    Do trainees get recording experience, or does that vary person by person?
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:51
    Best "that" the group's ever had
    She's got real punch
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:52
    Not sure about Yasuda, but Suzuki's got star quality
    They need that since the lineup's full of plain members
    52AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:52
    They should've waited one more year and brought in Nemoto and Kishida instead
    Seriously, they're way too short on members who can actually sing
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:53
    Re: #52
    Nemoto looks like she's under 140cm and Kishida's 145cm — are you sure that's the better call?
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:53
    Suzuki actually did well on the assessment test too
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:55
    Sugihara — dance, outgoing type
    Yasuda — the face execs would love
    Suzuki — visuals
    Ishikawa — dance, singing
    58AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:55
    Suzuki's only real problem is she's fatally bad at remembering stage positions
    She's not actually terrible
    though she does walk into the wrong spot
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:59
    Re: #54
    Is that a problem?
    It's not like they only recruit members for good looks

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    In Hello! Project, including Morning Musume, fans have long tracked how singing parts are divided up song by song (“uta-wari”) as a measure of a member’s popularity and growth. New members usually join after a trainee period, but singing experience varies a lot from member to member, and many are selected mainly for their dance ability. What divided opinion in the thread was how much of an inexperienced member’s skill can really be judged from a short clip in an official video, and whether it’s fair to suddenly cut back an existing member’s singing parts. Note that, as of this thread, management has not given any official explanation of how singing-part decisions are made or how members will be used going forward — this remains fan speculation.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[HaroSta REC] Morning Musume’s New Ace Ishikawa Kano Has Arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!“.

  • Favorite Active Female Idol Group Poll: 5ch Says ‘No Way Momoclo Is #1’

    On October 1, 2026, rankingoo.net released its “Favorite Active Female Idol Groups Ranking 2026 Edition,” based on a web survey of 4,036 respondents. Shiritsu Ebisu Chugaku took 10th place with 129 votes, but it was the results above that that got the thread talking. Kicking off with a post reading “No way Momoclo is #1,” the discussion spiraled into debates over vote-rigging, the surprising staying power of AKB48 and Morning Musume, and whether BABYMETAL even counts as an idol group — all tangled up in questions about what “idol group” really means and who’s actually voting.

    Ranking — October 1, 2026

    This time we surveyed a total of 4,036 people online for our “Favorite Active Female Idol Group Ranking [2026 Edition]”! From groups that have held the top spot for years running to powerhouse acts expanding their reach both at home and abroad, a diverse lineup of groups made the cut. Which group earned the most support…!?

    10th place: Shiritsu Ebisu Chugaku (129 votes)

    Source: rankingoo.net / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:52
    Because watching Showa-retro exploration videos on YouTube beats watching Piece-kun over at Omiya Park any day (Piece-kun being the park's peacock mascot).
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:53
    The idol group you guys actually like is probably Onyanko Club or some voice-actress unit, lol
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:54
    Soratobu Sakana (lit. "Flying Fish")
    107AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:50
    Re: #8
    They retired from active duty ages ago, c'mon.
    Still, I loved them back in the day.
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:55
    I wonder where Juice=Juice landed.
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:55
    Wait, "Boiled Juice" (a mocking nickname for Juice=Juice) is still a thing? Weren't they just a hype act that peaked before they even debuted?
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:56
    This ranking's got the same energy as Bunshun's "favorite comedian" poll putting New York at #1.
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:56
    BABYMETAL really is an idol group after all, when you think about it.
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:11
    Re: #17
    "Dame. Zettai." (Japan's famous anti-drug slogan, "No. Never.") is exactly the kind of line only idols use.
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:58
    Re: #19
    I was about to say the same thing, but they're ranked 8th…
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:05
    Re: #21
    If you're actually a fan, I don't think you'd even call them idols to begin with.
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 17:59
    No way Momoclo is #1 right now, come on.
    Where'd they even run this poll to get a result like that?
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:00
    Momoiro Clover Z reeks of organized voting.
    Isn't Yellow about the only member still visibly active these days?
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:01
    Re: #27
    I only know Green 🙄
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:06
    Self-check chart:

    Can't name or recognize the face of a single Nogizaka46 member → normal person.
    Recognize 1 → likes TV.
    Recognize 2 → idol otaku.
    Recognize 3 or more → gross balding fat NEET otaku.

    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:14
    Re: #40
    😭😭😭
    Just the other day I could barely place one person in this copypasta, but now I'm up to about 10… fine, gross balding fat NEET otaku it is 😭
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:06
    Le Sserafim
    ILLIT
    NewJeans
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:07
    Re: #41
    Korean groups are probably excluded from this ranking.
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:09
    Guess AKB and Morning Musume are still popular, huh.
    Staying popular longer than every Sakamichi group besides Nogizaka is honestly impressive.
    85AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:33
    Re: #47
    Those two have such a long history that you can just tell they're rock-solid.
    In Hello! Project, Morning Musume is still the most popular by far, and AKB's basically doing the same thing as the Sakamichi groups, just leveled up.
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:12
    It says "groups" only, but are there even any idols active solo right now?

    (Not counting group members doing solo side activities.)
    64AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:18
    Re: #53
    Current buzzing solo idol popularity ranking:
    1. Momo-chan (Momo)
    2. Terashima Yufu
    3. Myaa
    4. Mioicchi
    5. Sai-chan
    6. Tokita
    7. Hoshimachi Suisei
    8. Sakamoto Rina
    9. Asahina Rei
    10. Onodera Popoko
    72AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:25
    Re: #64
    I genuinely don't recognize a single one of these. Not exaggerating.
    99AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:44
    Re: #64
    Guess solo idols really don't exist anymore. Never even heard these names before.
    77AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:29
    University of Tokyo entrance exam, second-stage test:

    Question: Name the female idol group representing blank A below.
    1980s … Onyanko Club
    1990s … Morning Musume
    2000s … ( A )
    2010s … AKB48
    2020s … Nogizaka46
    This is a tough one.
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:33
    Re: #77
    I mean, SPEED works fine, doesn't it?
    123AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:56
    Re: #77
    Wasn't Hello! Project actually at its peak in the 2000s?
    The '90s feel more like the era of sexy-image groups like C.C.Girls and Girigiri Girls.
    80AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:30
    Momoclo's still got married women and divorcees in the lineup and they're still at it?
    82AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:31
    Re: #80
    Two married, one divorced, one single, I believe.
    91AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:38
    Re: #80
    As a Seiko Matsuda fan myself, that's still small potatoes.
    88AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:36
    What about Pink Saturn?
    115AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:51
    Re: #88
    Pink Saturn at the Sapporo Snow Festival.
    Pros get the job done with a smile even in brutal conditions.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3-qbYNVMAAwRoS.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ2s9LVV4AY6NMa.jpg
    101AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:44
    Momoclo and AKB??? What year is this ranking even from?
    106AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:49
    Re: #101
    AKB's made a comeback, you know?
    That's just being uninformed.
    Momoclo being on there is strange, sure, but AKB makes total sense.
    120AnonymousOct 2, 2026 18:53

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The source here is a web survey (4,036 respondents) published by rankingoo.net on October 1, 2026, ranking currently active female idol groups — note that it’s limited specifically to “groups.” The suspicion of vote-rigging raised in the thread (post 27) comes from the nature of this kind of online poll, which tends to be swayed by how effectively a fanbase can mobilize votes. It’s also easy to overlook that, because the ranking is limited to groups, solo-active idols are excluded from the tally entirely — making them a separate matter from individual popularity rankings like the one in post 64. The thread’s two main flashpoints were surprise at how AKB48 and Morning Musume, both still going after all these years, remain so popular, and a debate over whether BABYMETAL even counts as an “idol” group. The observation that K-pop groups were excluded from the tally (post 43) also shows that this ranking assumes “domestic Japanese idols” as its premise.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Favorite “Active Female Idol Group” Ranking.”

  • Should ANGERME’s Rookie Nagano Be the Next Big Push? 5ch: ‘She Sold Out Both Sessions of Her Birthday Event Just 1 Year In’

    A thread debated whether Hello! Project group ANGERME should start seriously pushing rookie member Nagano. With flagship members Maki Goto and Hirayama going through a prolonged rough patch health-wise, some say Nagano stands head and shoulders above the other young members, while skeptics countered that “she’s not really that cute,” splitting opinion on her looks. Citing the fact that she filled both sessions of the Asahi Hall birthday event about a year after joining, some argued her popularity is backed by real numbers, and the discussion expanded into comparisons with other young members like Murakoshi and Tamenaga.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:14
    Reminds me of how old-school fans went all in on Goto right after "LOVE Machine" dropped.
    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:15
    I don't think she's as cute as everyone says — is she really that good?
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:36
    Re: #2
    She's hands-down the best-looking one in ANGERME right now… though that's partly a comment on everyone else's level.
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:19
    With Hirayama and Goto both unstable right now, she's the only one left worth pushing.
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:20
    Pushing Nagano alone feels a bit thin, honestly.
    Better to push Goto, Shimoigaya, and Nagano together as the young-members unit.
    9AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:28
    She made me realize Murakoshi is actually cute.
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:35
    The problem is there are days she doesn't look like Murakoshi at all.
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:42
    She looks super cute in concert.
    Like Nishimura, she's the type who really shines when performing.
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    If only Goto and Hirayama's health would stabilize…
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    In her very first year, she filled both sessions of her birthday event at Asahi Hall right off the bat.
    Her solo meet-and-greet numbers are climbing too — safe to say she's more popular than Hashisako, Tamenaga, Matsumoto, and Shimoigaya.
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    Is this actually cute?
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260923/22/angerme-new/dc/d5/j/o1080143915824955924.jpg
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260918/22/angerme-new/cf/ce/j/o1080143915823252709.jpg
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:49
    Re: #17
    Fans who've actually seen her live think she's cute and push her for it — no need to pick nits.
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:46
    First time I saw her I thought, wow she's pretty big — not talking about her chest.
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:49
    Re: #19
    Yeah, she's tall with a bigger frame too.
    Honestly, you could drop her into Juice=Juice and she wouldn't look out of place.
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:47
    Wakana-chan ("Mocchi") gets cute once she starts moving — the opposite of Tamenaga.
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:47
    With glasses on, she drops below Hayashi.
    With her forehead showing, she drops below "King" (another member's nickname).
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:49
    She already did her Ninmin Friends thing — that's as far as it goes.
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:49
    Her face looks nothing like Goto's lol.
    At least build some popularity on skill before you come at us with takes.
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:50
    Isn't this whole topic happening precisely because she's already popular at live events?
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:53
    Re: #1
    So the core ANGERME fanbase these days is basically old guys who watched Maki Goto and "LOVE Machine" live back in the day?
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:01
    Losing to Nishimura and Sugihara in Ninmin really stings.
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:04
    Depending on the new members, ANGERME might end up going through a major image overhaul.
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:04
    Mochiko's just normal-cute, but King is King-level cute (on a whole different tier), so it can't be helped.
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:08
    Re: #34
    Reads like a wall of conspiracy-level rambling, but I get what you're saying.
    35AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:07
    She's basically filling the "Kawamura slot," right?
    Kawamura never really had that ace/center vibe, but being Goto's right hand seems like the best fit for her.
    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:08
    Realistically, the group's just going to keep building around pushing Goto.
    Her entourage looks better balanced when they're taller than she is, so my bet is the next recruit will be on the taller side too.
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:09
    She seems totally like center material to me.
    She's got that reassuring presence.
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:11
    Hope she keeps growing and pushing herself alongside Goto and Hirayama.
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:12
    She's a pro at making you go "oh? maybe she's cute" at first glance and from her voice…
    but look closer and—
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:12
    They've all got different strengths — just let each of them play to their own.
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:13
    Doesn't seem like she'll pull much of a female fanbase.
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:15
    Re: #42
    Actually, surprisingly, that's not really the case.
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:14
    Next single's probably coming spring next year — hope it's a track that pushes the younger members.
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:17
    Re: #43
    Isn't Hashisako center for the title track?
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:18
    Character-wise, fair point, but she's got the skills — she'll build up a decent female fanbase eventually.
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:21
    Actually, there are already quite a few female fans waving yellow glow sticks for her (her member color).
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:24
    She's the last hope for female fans who never managed to escape ANGERME fandom.
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:26
    They should just do a promo tie-in like Koharu did, linking a current idol with anime voice-acting work.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    ANGERME is a Hello! Project group fronted by Maki Goto, and concerns over Goto’s and Hirayama’s health have repeatedly come up among fans over the past few years. Nagano, the member discussed in the thread, is a rookie who has been in the group for only about a year, and the fact that she filled both sessions of the Asahi Hall program at her birthday event is cited as proof that her popularity is “backed by real numbers.” At the same time, opinions on her looks are split right down the middle within the thread, with a recurring theme being the gap between impressions from photos alone versus impressions from seeing her live at concerts — the discussion wasn’t a simple looks debate but expanded to cover height, build, and how she comes across in performance. Nicknames like “Mocchi” and “King” are fan nicknames that have stuck to individual members, and comparisons with other members make more sense read in that context.</analysis>

    </invoke>

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Shouldn’t ANGERME go all in on pushing Nagano?“.

  • Juice=Juice’s New Song “Kareinaru Revenger” (Magnificent Revenger) Divides Fans — Penned by Yamazaki Aoi

    Hello! Project group Juice=Juice has released the audio for their new song “Kareinaru Revenger” (Magnificent Revenger). The lyrics were written by Yamazaki Aoi, and posters on 5ch’s Hello! Project board shared that she isn’t an exclusive songwriter for Juice=Juice — she reportedly provides around 10 songs a year to other acts as well. Opinions in the thread were split: some praised the adventurous arrangement, which works in vocal percussion and rap, as “very Juice,” while others worried that “they haven’t put out a single all year, and this is what we get?” Plenty of posts also singled out Arisawa Ichika’s violin and Dangohara’s vocals.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:46
    Juice=Juice
    "Kareinaru Revenger"
    Lyrics: Yamazaki Aoi
    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:53
    IIIIIT'S HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!!!!!
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:59
    Trash song lmaoooooooooo
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:08
    This is pretty shaky
    They genuinely weren't planning on releasing a single this year, huh
    The direction's off too
    Vocals sound weird
    They need to drop another single, stat
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:09
    Don't need the vocal percussion and rap
    Other than that I don't hate it
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:10
    Gloomy and moody — very Juice
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:11
    Let Aoi-chan write them more songs
    Why's this garbage agency rationing out Juice=Juice x Yamazaki Aoi collabs
    101AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:01
    Re: #15
    https://yamazakiaoi.jp/contents/works/2026

    She's not exclusive to Juice
    She puts out about 10 songs a year for others too
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:15
    Three strikes with the last EP's three songs and no room left to fail, and now this
    This group is done
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:17
    Surprised they're pushing Ishiyama as the main vocal
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:19
    Wasn't Yamazaki Aoi writing songs for Milk too?
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:21
    Still wish they'd just commandeer Tsubaki Factory's "Aiueo" for themselves
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:22
    We'll be repping "Moremi" as our "latest single" all the way into 2027 at this rate!!!!!
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:23
    Put out a release that actually feels like they mean it as a "new song"
    Go all in and compete for real
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:23
    Honestly if it'd been "Aiueo" instead of "Kurakura" it might've taken off a bit more
    It's catchier
    And they even got "Kurakura" on Music Station of all places
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    Fans who joined during the "Moremi" era jumped ship to BEYOOOOOND/Ocha Norma ages ago
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    Doesn't feel very Hello! Project, and honestly that's a good thing
    Widens their musical range
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:28
    With Arisawa Ichika in the group, Juice=Juice can keep challenging themselves and evolving
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:29
    More → Kurakura → Burabare → Ketsuron → Girameki → Kareinaru
    This run has me a little worried about their Kohaku chances (NHK's year-end song contest)
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:32
    Re: #32
    Everything between "More" and "Kareinaru" was existing songs or album tracks
    This one's a completely new song, so it's held to a tougher standard
    I figured they'd been cooking up something good in the meantime
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:33
    It's less "a Dangohara song" and more "Dangohara making it work"
    As expected of her
    68AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:48
    The spineless agency timidly drip-feeding so-so new songs with a "w-well it's not a single, so…" attitude
    Just go all-in and take the swing already, flop or not
    71AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:48
    Re: #68
    They're just not releasing a single because they're too busy with work to run events for one
    72AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:49
    Yep
    Here comes the crappy agency's "balancing act"
    I really hope the "Moremi" newcomers don't lose out
    Next up they'll probably hand a good song to Angerme or whoever
    This agency doesn't let anyone get ahead of the pack (except Morning Musume)
    All we can do is stream the crap song on repeat and wreck the pecking order ourselves
    85AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:53
    Re: #72
    Except the end result is they learn "oh, you're all fine with songs like this," and crap songs just become the standard
    75AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:50
    Caught Crayon Shin-chan for the first time in ages recently and the theme song was by Furuppa
    I wish Juice would get to do a theme song for a big anime like that too
    Juice can actually sing better anyway
    78AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:50
    Re: #75
    You just like the prestige, don't you?
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    Give songs like this to Tsubaki (Factory) instead
    86AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:53
    Re: #83
    They couldn't pull it off though, could they
    90AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:55
    Trying to look cool and ending up lame is the lamest thing there is
    Total waste of Yamazaki Aoi's talent
    This is a song neither Aoi-chan nor the Juice members could've saved
    91AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:56
    Re: #90
    There's no such thing as a song that sounds lame once Juice=Juice sings it
    93AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:56
    Hello! Project's direction must be seriously off behind the scenes
    The fact that Hello! Project songwriters do decently well working outside the group kind of proves it
    94AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    Re: #93
    Are they actually doing well, though?
    95AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    Re: #93
    I'd bet Yamazaki Aoi's songs for Milk are good too
    That group's probably working with the best team in Japan right now
    96AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:58
    Going all-in on something lame from the start is completely different from trying to look cool and ending up lame anyway
    The latter one kills the hype
    98AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:59
    Re: #96
    Has Juice=Juice ever actually been lame, though?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    This year, Juice=Juice released the completely new song “Kareinaru Revenger” (Magnificent Revenger) digitally without putting out a single under their own name. Lyricist Yamazaki Aoi isn’t an exclusive songwriter for Juice=Juice — thread posters shared that she provides around 10 songs a year to other groups as well, citing Milk as one example. Opinions split over whether the arrangement, which works in vocal percussion and rap, should be read as “a bold departure from the usual Hello! Project sound” or as “directionless wandering,” and posters repeatedly vented frustration with the agency’s (Up-Front’s) production approach. Looking at the group’s recent release lineup — More → Kurakura → Burabare → Ketsuron → Girameki → Kareinaru — some pointed out that this one is being judged more harshly since it’s a brand-new song rather than an existing or album track. That said, it’s worth noting that the reasoning behind the “no single” policy and any sales-related speculation are purely posters’ guesses — no official explanation has been given.

    *This article was compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Breaking] Juice=Juice’s Newest Song “Kareinaru Revenger” Audio is HEEERE ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! [Yamazaki Aoi].”

  • Juice=Juice Fan Cheers On Angerme: ‘5ch Says They Could Still Blow Up in Ten Years’

    A thread went up on the Hello! Project board after someone said that reading the comments on Ise Suzuran’s blog brought them to tears. The poster, a Juice=Juice fan, was addressing the separate group Angerme, writing, “I hope you get your reward someday — maybe in ten years you could still blow up, so don’t give up.” That set off a wider discussion in the thread, ranging from differences in the two groups’ blog posts, to the “song gacha” theory (where popularity hinges on whether you get handed a good song), to Hello! Project’s distinctive group-management cycle — with opinions split on what really separates the groups that break through from the ones that don’t.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:17
    Reading the comments on Ise's blog apparently had people in tears
    58 Anonymous Recruiting… [] Fri 2026/10/02 03:14:50.71 0
    I'm a Juice=Juice fan, but I really hope Angerme gets their reward someday too
    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:18
    448 Anonymous Recruiting… [] Thu 2026/10/01 23:13:10.26 0

    Reading the comments on Ise's blog had me in tears

    https://imgur.com/cWfhLSI.jpeg
    3AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:24
    Juice=Juice is living proof that it all comes down to winning the 'song gacha.' Putting in effort doesn't matter — as long as you keep getting saddled with crappy songs, you'll never break through.
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:44
    Re: #3
    It's not just about the song though
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:26
    Just read today's Angerme blog posts and was shocked that not a single member talked about work.
    Juice=Juice's blogs are packed with work announcements and 'please listen to my anime theme song' plugs, but Angerme's are all about going out and having fun.
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:00
    Re: #4
    Ise: Went to see Tamura's stage play
    Matsumoto: Went to see Tamura's stage play
    Hashisako: Library → Tsukiji Market
    Kawana: Reading
    Tamenaga: Sanrio House
    Hirayama: Bakery → reading → bath → cleaning
    Goto: Kamikokuryo came to watch her show
    Shimoitani: Louvre Museum exhibition
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:01
    Re: #18
    Living the full off-day life lol
    61AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:50
    Re: #18
    Tamura's play just had its opening night yesterday, and neither of those two even overlapped with her in the group — pretty dutiful of them to go.
    Meanwhile none of the younger members went to see Iikubo (though maybe Ishida did?)
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:26
    Juice=Juice fans' real problem: they're on TV so much their hard drives are running out of space
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:28
    Juice=Juice fans are so nice
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:32
    Ten years from now would be 2036, huh
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:33
    Nagano Momoha would be 26 by then
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:34
    The maglev line still won't be finished
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:35
    The reactor decommissioning still won't be done either
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:35
    By then the JJ haters will probably have ascended to heaven too
    though hell is probably more where they're headed
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:36
    World War III will probably have started by then
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:37
    Half the fanbase will probably have passed away by then
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:38
    We'll probably be ruled by AI by then
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 03:50
    Hello! Project has 7 groups, and the agency can really only push one group at a time once every 7 years. They don't have the manpower, budget, or staff to push two groups in the same year. So the chance comes around on a 7-year cycle. Even if you stick it out as an idol for 10 years, most members only get one real shot during their whole time in the group.
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:02
    Re: #18
    This is just a bunch of people with way too much free time
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:40
    Kunio: "I've been saying this all along — the vibe in Juice=Juice right now is great, they're on a roll, it's the best, I get it, but there's one thing you absolutely have to watch out for, and that's scandal. How much slack there is on that front is the thing to keep an eye on — though 'keep an eye on' is definitely the wrong way to put it. They really need to protect Inoue, no matter what — Inoue Reon. The whole UP-FRONT group, all hands on deck. I won't spell out what I mean, Inoue Reon. I just want her protected, absolutely."
    https://www.youtube.com/live/8R7tk8BLVjE?t=11775s
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:41
    Garlic Country, Nose Prefecture, Nose Village, Block Nose, born (age Nose)
    Family name: Nose, given name: Nose
    Nickname: Nose
    Height: Nose cm
    Weight: Nose kg
    Graduated from Garlic Academy, Department of Nose
    Joined Nose Lab, then transferred to Nose Discharge
    Favorite "nose" saying: "Garlic Nose"
    Favorite Japanese folktale: "Nose Taro, Born From a Nose"

    The Jiro-style ramen shop "Kawashima" is now open!
    Our garlic is locally sourced!
    Come try it fresh, piled on sky-high!
    (A nonsense copypasta that repeats "nose" as a stand-in placeholder word for comic effect — the joke itself doesn't translate cleanly.)
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 04:42
    Music Station: "One of the best singers in all of Hello! Project — Juice=Juice!!"

    Kudo: "Hyoremiamore!!" (garbled, unintelligible non-lyrics)
    https://i.imgur.com/mYYajKb.mp4

    Music Station went out of their way to hype them up and she ruined it

    Teary-eyed
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HNBlIDYaYAAPyiC.jpg:orig
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 05:18
    If it's ten years from now, Motchi would probably still be around
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 05:44
    Having that 'I'll check out this group because this member is in it' entry point really matters.
    For Angerme that was basically Sasaki, Kamikokuryo, and Kawamura.
    If they all quit within a short span, then who's supposed to be that entry point?
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:06
    That kind of case is the minority.
    Just because it was true for you doesn't mean you should assume it's true for everyone else.
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:10
    Feels like someone who won the lottery telling their friend, 'hope you win too someday'
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:12
    I think what it's saying is: reform the group over a long stretch of time.

    Angerme fans say there's no real difference in looks or skill between Juice=Juice and Angerme — Juice=Juice just happened to land a good song.
    But in reality, better members have been gathered into Juice=Juice precisely because that group gets along better and has more drive to improve,
    which makes it easier for members' skills to grow.
    That's why the agency keeps bringing good members into it.

    Angerme fans ask for good members and good songs to be handed to Angerme,
    but what actually has to happen first is making the group's atmosphere better so the agency wants to bring in good members.
    Then, once they've grown, you need the agency to think 'let's give them a good song and push them.'
    That takes group reform over a long span —
    so you should figure on it taking something like 10 years.
    And the fans' job is to support the group through that slump.
    Because if you don't support them, they might get disbanded — you need to make the agency believe it's worth keeping them going.
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:15
    If this person is seriously saying this, that's pretty rough
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:21
    Honestly, by next year nobody's even going to be able to say this —
    Juice=Juice is clearly already in decline mode
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:38
    Maybe the real make-or-break year is five years from now, when Hirayama and Shimoitani turn 25.
    A lineup like this might actually be able to make it:

    Hirayama – Leader
    Shimoitani – Sub-leader
    Goto
    Nagano
    About 5 new members
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:48
    Juice=Juice just happened to get lucky with their songs, that's all
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:50
    They whiffed with 'Vanilla,' so the next shot at the lottery isn't until next year

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The “song gacha” theory that kept coming up in the thread rests on the fact that Hello! Project’s groups, all under the same talent agency, effectively compete with one another for songs and media exposure. The claim in post 17 that “with 7 groups, you only get pushed once every 7 years” is somewhat exaggerated, but the underlying premise — that a limited pool of resources gets divided among multiple groups — is a widely shared assumption among fans, and it’s industry background that’s easy for a first-time reader to miss. The thread’s main fault line was between those who chalk up differences in popularity to “songs and luck of the draw” and those who argue that “how well members get along and how driven they are to improve” shapes the agency’s investment decisions — so it isn’t simply a story of good or bad luck. It’s also worth noting that differences in blog topics likely reflect individual members’ personalities and schedules rather than directly measuring the group’s overall workload.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Juice=Juice fan: “I hope Angerme gets their reward someday too — they could still blow up in ten years, so don’t give up”.”

  • Ex-Hello! Project Trainee Kono Soara Joins Ogata Haruna’s New Project — 5ch Reacts: ‘If They Don’t Want Her, I’ll Take Her’

    Kono Soara (19), a former Hello! Project trainee, has announced she is joining “FULL HOUSE PROJECT,” a new project launched by Ogata Haruna (27). Kono was once considered a strong candidate to join ANGERME, but that never materialized. The idol group Ogata herself had been producing disbanded last month, and some of its members are reportedly joining the new project as well. The group’s debut is set for TGC Kitakyushu on October 10, and on the thread, comments spread expressing surprise both at the 19-year age gap between the two and at how abrupt the whole situation seems.

    2AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:24
    If she'd just waited, she could've debuted normally — and she ends up there instead
    5AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:25
    https://fullhouseproject.jp/uploads/main-visual-sp/b91deba537f1e1ff5fe09ee6.jpg
    33AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:34
    Re: #5
    She's the center, huh
    6AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:25
    Isn't this the one sponsored by Princess Tenko? (the famous illusionist)
    7AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:26
    The design kind of looks like a hostess bar, not gonna lie
    8AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:26
    Bring Towa along too
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:30
    Re: #8
    Didn't she become a total gyaru (flashy, trend-chasing style)?
    10AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:27
    No way…
    are they gonna make her do an edamame speed-eating contest?
    22AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:30
    Well, let them do what they want
    it'll probably fold soon anyway
    27AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:31
    Wait, is Ogata Haruna making an active idol comeback too?! Dying laughing!
    29AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:32
    Kono Soara (19 years old)
    Ogata Haruna (27 years old)
    31AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:33
    Can Ha-chin even dance? That's gotta be rough at this point lol
    34AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:34
    If Shimoitani could get promoted, they should've promoted Soara too
    I want her in ANGERME
    35AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:34
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HThHVmwasAAuARn.jpg:orig
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HThHVmWaEAA0App.jpg:orig
    36AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:35
    Ogata's the real mystery here, not Kono
    she's already 27, right?
    37AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:35
    Whatever happened with Chaos Pipisu?
    Whatever happened with Youplus?
    And what became of Ogata Haruna and Nakanishi Kana's relationship after all that?
    It's about time we all sat down and really talked this through
    38AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:36
    Is it read 'Kua'? Never heard of this girl
    39AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:36
    The girl who was supposed to join ANGERME
    67AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:45
    Re: #39
    On ANGERME's future after failing to land Kono Soara
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1729685865/
    42AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:37
    Is Sakki the Endo Saki who was in Time Lapse?
    We share a birthday
    44AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:37
    It's Soara-chan — like the Toyota Soarer. Hello! Project never 'delivered' her, but Ha-chin bought her instead
    46AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:38
    Both Soara and Toa got wrecked in the evaluation tests, didn't they
    47AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:38
    There's a former Yumemiru Adolescence member in there
    49AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:39
    Is this a different project from the group Ogata was producing?
    Or did they just move over as-is?
    57AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:41
    Re: #49
    The group she was producing disbanded last month, and some of the members joined this new project
    63AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:43
    @harunaogatajp
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    1:01 PM · Oct 1, 2026
    66AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:44
    A 27-year-old dancing alongside a 19-year-old, nice — just like Hello! Project
    137AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:05
    Re: #66
    Hello! Project has literally had 27-year-olds and 12-year-olds working together,
    so this doesn't even seem like that big an age gap anymore.
    ME:I had members as far apart as 23 and 16 when they formed, too
    69AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:45
    Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes that she can suddenly show up at TGC like that
    Wasn't Ichioka's group the same way, if I remember right?
    74AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:47
    Re: #69
    Probably just pay-to-play, no?
    80AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:49
    Re: #69
    The management is basically the same people,
    and there are even survivors from Ichioka's group in there
    108AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:56
    Take in the hot-spring girl from Oita too
    110AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:57
    Re: #108
    That girl's auditioning for Iqoolve
    118AnonymousOct 1, 2026 13:59
    Re: #110
    She's probably gonna get cut though
    128AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:03
    @harunaogatajp
    I went all the way to Fukuoka to scout her!
    Looking forward to working together!!!

    Kono Soara-chan
    @Soara_kawano

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/HThN-fDbYAAWgqA.jpg:orig#.jpg
    1:41 PM · Oct 1, 2026
    131AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:04
    Lord Ha-chin: 'This child Hello! Project threw away — if you don't want her, I'll take her…'
    138AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:06
    Re: #131
    Be my guest, go right ahead
    132AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:05
    Well, Yamada's probably not getting the call though…
    135AnonymousOct 1, 2026 14:05
    Re: #132
    The 'honeybees' (likely a fan club/management nickname) already have her locked down

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Kono Soara came up through Hello! Project’s trainee system, and the thread brings up the fact that she was once considered a strong candidate for ANGERME, though that never came to pass. Ogata Haruna disbanded the idol group she herself had been producing last month, and in that process launched the new project “FULL HOUSE PROJECT,” which some members of the disbanded group have now joined as well. Opinions in the thread were split mainly over the age gap — some were surprised that 19-year-old Kono and 27-year-old Ogata would be active in the same group, while others countered that Hello! Project itself has precedent for members with wide age gaps coexisting, so it’s nothing especially unusual. As for the fact that her first public appearance is suddenly a major event like TGC Kitakyushu, some posts pointed to shared management/production ties as a possible reason, though no official explanation has been given.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Breaking] Former Hello! Project trainee Kono Soara joins the project that Ogata Haruna is also part of キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!“.

  • FRUITS ZIPPER’s Runa Nakagawa Falls Ill Amid Spreading Backlash — 5ch: “There Was Never Any Bad Blood”

    Runa Nakagawa of idol group FRUITS ZIPPER sat out part of a tour concert on September 25, then missed NHK’s “Nodo Jiman” broadcast on the 27th, citing poor health. It started when a video showing an apparent gap in reactions between members spread on social media, fueling speculation that the group wasn’t getting along. On 5ch, opinions split between those saying idols should keep their feelings off their faces as professionals, and those arguing the real problem was baseless pile-on criticism. Many posts also pushed back on the “bad blood” theory, citing exchanges from radio shows and live performances.

    “Regarding Runa Nakagawa: due to poor health, she will not be appearing in tomorrow’s scheduled broadcast of ‘NHK Nodo Jiman.’”

    This was the September 26 announcement from the official social media account of the seven-member idol group FRUITS ZIPPER, informing fans that member Runa Nakagawa would be sitting out the September 27 broadcast of “NHK Nodo Jiman.”

    Nakagawa had also limited her participation in the September 25 concert tour performance due to poor health.

    Source: asagei.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:15
    She gets along fine with Matsumoto, so isn't that good enough?
    It's not like every single member of a group has to be best friends with each other anyway.
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:26
    Re: #3
    Fine if they don't get along, but this is a job — act friendly on camera, you're not kids.

    That's just a lack of professionalism.
    44AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:41
    Re: #3
    Whether they get along or not doesn't matter — what's being criticized is the stupidity of letting it show.
    It's like saying it's fine to have a boyfriend as long as you don't get caught.
    The point is: if you're a pro, keep it hidden.
    14AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:22
    She's in her late 20s/30s, so there's probably a lot going on, but if a bit of online backlash is enough to knock her out, that's a seriously fragile mentality ("tofu mentality," as the saying goes).
    Maybe there's also a backdrop where fans these days don't like it if members aren't shown being close.
    21AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:25
    Re: #14
    For idols and YouTubers alike, keeping up a "we're all best friends" image is part of the job.
    Whatever the reality, you have to put out videos performing being close and perfectly in sync.
    Musicians or bands that skip that kind of camaraderie act don't need the "best friends" routine.
    But for an idol group, being close and having "worked hard together" is part of the product too, so acting it out is expected.
    18AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:24
    Can you really tell if they're on bad terms from just that one split-second clip?
    I watched it and have no idea what's supposed to be the red flag.
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:28
    Re: #18
    This time, it's the most dedicated fans who can tell what's going on, and that's exactly why it blew up even more.
    Normally this kind of controversy gets defended by the fanbase, but even that group is going "yeah, I knew it."
    29AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:30
    There was a similar story on "Imouto wa Shitteiru" (a TV variety show) too.
    If the member who got frozen out had just denied it on social media, her reputation would've actually gone up.
    33AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:34
    Re: #29
    For that to work, the one doing the freezing-out would also have to come out and play along with the "we're friends" act — otherwise it's pointless.
    The fact that they can't do that is exactly why it's such a mess.
    95AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:13
    Re: #29
    The one being frozen out has no obligation to go that far.
    34AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:35
    This video is rough too.
    Pink talks → everyone claps.
    Red (Amane Tsukiashi) talks → only Pink reacts.
    https://x.com/hamusoku/status/2103427855413858413
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2103365994169450496/vid/avc1/1180×660/GW8ICCPdApDhXrsk.mp4
    47AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:42
    Re: #34
    Isn't there more after that?
    Looks to me like it's just going exactly according to script.
    54AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:44
    Re: #34
    TV talents get booked precisely because they stay "on" even when it's not their moment — keeping their expression and reactions ready.
    Slacking off when it's not your turn isn't unique to these girls; you see it all the time in other idols' interview segments too.

    If anything, it's FRUITS ZIPPER's over-the-top, staged "we're best friends" celebration routine that's the unusual thing here — which is exactly why the one member not doing it stood out.
    144AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:45
    Re: #34
    This one's pretty clear-cut.
    61AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:51
    Every time bullying or bad-blood rumors come up in a girl idol group like this, it's a mystery why Nogizaka46 never seems to have this kind of woman-on-woman trouble.
    66AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:54
    Re: #61
    The Nanase Nishino and Manatsu Akimoto thing is famous, isn't it?
    Early on, Nishino was one-sidedly cold toward her, but they later made up and became close.
    77AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:04
    Re: #61
    With that many members, there's probably always someone you click with, or management handles it well.
    Though Kubo seemed a bit shaky at the start of the 3rd generation…
    90AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:12
    That certain "Something Clover" group was like this too, wasn't it.
    98AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:14
    Re: #90
    Green (the member in green) really had it rough.
    I switch the channel whenever the other members come on TV.
    106AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:17
    Re: #90
    There's footage of Haruka Fukuhara being treated like this back in her modeling days too.
    This kind of thing happens fairly often in all-female groups.
    Honestly, it even happens in groups of older women.
    96AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:14
    They've been at this for quite a while now — does a group really start falling apart at this point? If there's no leader, the adults in charge should be managing them properly.
    105AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:17
    Re: #96
    How exactly are you supposed to keep a bunch of late-20s/30-somethings in line? If most of the members were teenagers, maybe, but…
    113AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:23
    Re: #96
    They're adults themselves to begin with. What are you even talking about.
    147AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    Tabloids are always behind the times — look what happened at yesterday's live.
    https://x.com/ramenlunapippi/status/2105284363365797983

    Amaneki said, "I didn't have a hair accessory that matched this hairstyle, so I called Runa and borrowed one! I'll do my best for Runa's share too, so please cheer us on!" — and she was wearing Runapi's ribbon, I sobbed so hard…
    Manafi even changed the song lyrics to "Runa Runa Runaa!🎶," and during the encore Osuzu danced while holding Runapi's plushie — I love them so much, this is the best 😿💜
    150AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:49
    Re: #147
    Trying to settle everything with just this is a stretch.
    Management really fumbled this one.
    152AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:50
    Re: #147
    This instant, manufactured tearjerker moment (what posters call "kandou porn," or overly engineered emotional content) is hard to take.
    215AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:45
    Re: #147
    If anything, this is just their everyday normal.
    The only ones who don't get it are the haters and the bandwagon fans.
    163AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:57
    From the September 7 ANNX (All Night Nippon X) broadcast:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBknoCHE8Rs&t=1412s
    Tsukiashi: "This morning Runa, me, Yui, and Manafi all cheerfully sang COSMOS together.
    Like, before we knew it, the four of us had even split up the parts and were singing in harmony."
    172AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    Re: #163
    It's funny how this completely debunks the bad-blood rumors every single time.
    Behind the scenes they're totally on good terms.
    Everyone listens to ANNX, you know.
    We're not falling for it lol
    175AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:06
    Re: #163
    For the record, this was before the "First Take" video even came out.
    At this point the whole "bad blood" rumor is basically impossible to argue lol
    182AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:11
    Re: #163
    What a shining example of a fan trying desperately hard (lol)
    203AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:32
    Even with blatant damage control hired, you're totally ignoring the weird stuff from that day's live, and the fact that there are members going along with Purple's (the member in purple) behavior — something's missing here.
    207AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:36
    Re: #203
    She's unwell.
    It's been going on since before this whole thing.
    Fans already know that.
    211AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:42
    Re: #203
    This thread kind of looks like it's full of haters posting under fake personas.
    210AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:41
    This isn't even blowing up anymore — this article's late.

    Yahoo Trend Search, last 24 hours:
    fruitszipper: 90% positive, 10% negative
    Furubbā (fan nickname for the group): 86% positive, 14% negative
    Runa Nakagawa: 77% positive, 23% negative
    Runapi: 67% positive, 33% negative
    Amane Tsukiashi: 86% positive, 14% negative
    Amaneki: 78% positive, 22% negative
    213AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:43
    Re: #210
    Seems like someone worked pretty hard behind the scenes on this lol
    217AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:50
    Re: #210
    No matter how hard some faction pushes this far-fetched "bad blood" narrative, you can't keep a lid on the truth.
    Everyone ends up seeing the truth: there was never any bad blood at all.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    FRUITS ZIPPER is a seven-member idol group that launched in 2022 as a TikTok-born project, and Runa Nakagawa is one of its members. The group’s official social media only cited “poor health” for her absence from “NHK Nodo Jiman,” and neither Nakagawa nor her management has explicitly confirmed any link to the online backlash. It’s worth noting that the “member being ignored” clip circulating online was only a few seconds long and lacked context, yet many posts jumped to conclusions about the members’ attitudes anyway. On the thread, opinions split with no common ground: some argued that performing a “we’re close friends” image is simply part of the idol business and its commercial value, while others felt personal feelings shouldn’t have to be managed or acted out at all. At the same time, many posts cited radio and live-show remarks to push back on the “bad blood” theory, so opinions varied depending on which source people trusted.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Idols] The “Member-Ignoring Video” and Spreading Backlash Damage That Led FRUITS ZIPPER’s Runa Nakagawa to Cancel a TV Appearance“.

  • “The Lineup Is Too Stacked”: AKB48’s Golden-Era Members Reunite at Wedding — Yamamoto Sayaka, Kawaei Rina, and More Turn Out

    Former AKB48 member Kato Rena has gotten married, and her own Instagram post revealed that golden-era members including Yamamoto Sayaka, Kawaei Rina, and Iriyama Anna gathered at the reception. Yamamoto looked back on it, saying, “It was fun, like a reunion.” On a 5channel thread, comments poured in saying they “couldn’t tell who was who” even looking at the group photo, alongside disagreements over the term “golden-era members” and mentions of former members notably absent from the lineup — posts nostalgic for the group’s heyday kept coming.

    “The lineup is too stacked,” “Too emotional” — AKB48 Golden-Era Members’ Wedding Sees Popular Alumnae Gather All Dressed Up, “It Was Fun, Like a Reunion” — Yamamoto Sayaka Also Attended

    Singer-songwriter Yamamoto Sayaka has revealed that she attended the wedding of former AKB48 member Kato Rena.

    By the 1st, Yamamoto had posted on Instagram: “I was invited to Rena-chan’s wedding. The happiness of someone I love so much is my happiness too.” She wrote, “It was a wonderful time full of kindness and love, and there were so many friends I hadn’t seen in ages — it was fun, like a reunion,” sharing photos including a round-table shot with AKB48 golden-era members like Kawaei Rina and Iriyama Anna.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:05
    Kawaei's the only one still active in the spotlight.
    31AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:15
    Re: #7
    The members from her generation must be pretty shocked.
    8AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:05
    If these girls walked down the street, nobody would even recognize them.
    9AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:05
    Just being able to tell them apart is impressive enough.
    11AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:06
    Seeing this makes me feel like Yuria-chan has really become a proper AKB member.
    15AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:08
    Who's someone who seems like they'd get invited but didn't?
    32AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:15
    Re: #15
    Yokoyama Yui's pregnant, so maybe that's why she couldn't make it?
    50AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:37
    Re: #15
    You mean Sashihara-san, from "Anrire with Sashihara Rino"? (likely a Sashihara-hosted segment/show)
    18AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:09
    Kato Rena used to be so much prettier — doesn't she look like a totally different person now?
    20AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:10
    Looked her up — turns out she's the same generation as "Fresh Lemon."

    Is Lemon in this photo?
    26AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:13
    Re: #20
    Second row, second from the right — that's her.
    22AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:11
    I think this girl might be her, you can see the resemblance
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:11
    Tanaka N. / Iwasa / Kikuchi
    Ooya / Nakamura A. / Mogi / Murayama
    Izuta / Kobayashi M. / Ooba / Mukaichi / Okada N.
    Kizaki / Kawaei / Nakanishi C. / Ichikawa M. / Suzuki K.
    Kojima N. / Kato Rena / Yamamoto Sayaka / Iriyama
    https://ohayua.cyou/twimg/HTXo8JPa8AAxJFY.jpg
    36AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:18
    Re: #23
    It's a hazy memory, but Kato Rena looks like a completely different person lol
    44AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:26
    Re: #23
    The one sandwiched between Mukaichi and Murayama is Okada Nana?! Had absolutely no idea…
    48AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:34
    Re: #23
    Look closely and Yuuna and Mogion really are sticking together in their own little clique.
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:12
    I can't recognize a single one of them.
    I know the names, but they don't match the faces I remember.
    84AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:10
    Re: #25
    Well, that's just how much time has passed.
    27AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:14
    I don't recognize more than half of them.
    Feels like this group's put out more former members than Morning Musume.
    30AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:15
    Going by faces alone in the photo, Yamamoto's the only one I can pick out.
    33AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:16
    It's kind of funny that aside from Ooya, who seems like a friendly type, none of the other AKB senior veterans are anywhere to be seen.
    34AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:17
    This one's got the resemblance too
    37AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:19
    I used to watch Gavan, so that's the only reason I recognized one of them. (Gavan: a classic '80s tokusatsu hero show, seemingly an unrelated joke here)
    38AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:19
    It's probably just everyone trying to one-up each other.
    39AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:20
    When I heard "Yamamoto Sayaka," I figured it was just a bunch of her hardcore, eccentric fanboys throwing themselves a pre-celebration party.
    71AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:02
    They owe where they are now to the support of their down-and-out otaku fans. (self-deprecating slang for fans who see themselves as "losers")
    75AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:04
    Re: #71
    Then there's nothing left to feel but resentment.
    77AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:04
    Looks like none of the really big names showed up.
    85AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:11
    Re: #77
    Isn't Kawaei one of the big names though?
    78AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:05
    Mayuyu doesn't even show up to things like this as a private citizen — does that mean she's completely cut ties?
    94AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Re: #78
    Well, she's from a different generation than this group to begin with.
    97AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    Stop calling people "golden-era members" when they only got popular after graduating.
    102AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:58
    Re: #97
    Kawaei made senbatsu in the final general election while still active, so saying she only got popular after graduating doesn't really hold up — she clearly already had mainstream recognition and popularity before that.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    AKB48’s “golden era” is often used to describe the period when the group enjoyed nationwide popularity through general elections and TV appearances, but there’s no strict definition of the term. Within the thread, opinions were split on the label itself — some argued that “you shouldn’t call someone a golden-era member if they only got popular after graduating,” while others countered that “Kawaei made senbatsu in general elections even while still active.” Many also said they “couldn’t tell who was who” even looking at the group photo, likely because roughly a decade has passed since graduation, widening the gap in each member’s activity level and media exposure. Some posts speculated that absent former members might have skipped the event due to pregnancy or busy schedules, but it’s worth noting these are all unverified guesses, not explanations from the people themselves.

    *This article was compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Idols] “The Lineup Is Too Stacked” — AKB48 Golden-Era Members Gather En Masse for a Wedding, Including Yamamoto Sayaka and Kawaei Rina.”

  • FRUITS ZIPPER’s Runa Nakagawa Falls Ill as Online Bashing Spreads — 5ch Says: ‘There Was Never Any Bad Blood’

    Runa Nakagawa of idol group “FRUITS ZIPPER” sat out part of a tour concert on September 25 and also missed the September 27 broadcast of NHK’s “Nodo Jiman,” citing poor health. The trigger was a video circulating on social media that seemed to show a gap in how members reacted to each other, fueling speculation that “they might not get along.” On 5ch, opinions clashed between those who said professionals shouldn’t let their feelings show and those who said the real problem was baseless bashing. A string of posts also pushed back on the “bad blood” rumor, citing exchanges on radio shows and at live performances.

    “Regarding Runa Nakagawa, due to poor health, she will be absent from tomorrow’s scheduled appearance on ‘NHK Nodo Jiman.’”

    This was an announcement made on September 26 by the official social media account of the seven-member idol group “FRUITS ZIPPER.” It stated that member Runa Nakagawa would be sitting out her appearance on the September 27 broadcast of “NHK Nodo Jiman.”

    Nakagawa had also limited her participation in the concert tour performance held on September 25, due to poor health.

    Source: asagei.com / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:15
    She gets along fine with Matsumoto, so isn't that good enough?
    It's not like every single member of a group has to be besties anyway.
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:26
    Re: #3
    It's fine if they don't get along, but it's a job — act friendly on camera, you're not a kid.

    That's just a lack of professionalism.
    44AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:41
    Re: #3
    Whether they get along or not doesn't matter — what's being criticized is the folly of letting it show.
    It's like saying "if you have a boyfriend, just don't get caught."
    If you're a pro, hide it properly.
    14AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:22
    They're in their late 20s/early 30s ("arasaa"), so sure, stuff happens — but if getting bashed over this is enough to knock them down, that's way too thin-skinned.
    Maybe part of it is that fans these days get upset if members don't look close.
    21AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:25
    Re: #14
    Whether it's idols or YouTubers, the "members are besties" act is part of the job.
    Regardless of how things really are, they have to put out videos acting perfectly in sync and close.
    For musicians or bands who don't bother with that kind of camaraderie act, this "besties" setup isn't needed.
    But for an idol group, projecting a "we're close, we've worked hard together" image is part of the job — they're required to perform it.
    18AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:24
    Can you even tell if they're on bad terms from just that one split-second clip?
    I watched it and still have no idea what's supposed to be the red flag.
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:28
    Re: #18
    This time, the more into the group you are as a fan, the more you can tell — that's probably what made it blow up even more.
    Normally this kind of flare-up gets defended by the fans, but even that crowd ended up thinking, "yeah, I guess it really is like that."
    29AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:30
    There was a similar story in "Imouto wa Shitteiru" ("My Little Sister Knows") too.
    If the one being excluded had just denied it on social media, her reputation would've actually gone up.
    33AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:34
    Re: #29
    For that to work, the one doing the excluding would also need to step up and show they're close — otherwise it's pointless.
    The fact that they can't do that is probably why it's such a mess.
    95AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:13
    Re: #29
    The one being excluded has no obligation to go that far.
    34AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:35
    This video is brutal too.
    Pink talks → everyone claps.
    Red (Amane Tsukiashi) talks → only Pink reacts.
    https://x.com/hamusoku/status/2103427855413858413
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2103365994169450496/vid/avc1/1180×660/GW8ICCPdApDhXrsk.mp4
    47AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:42
    Re: #34
    Isn't there footage after this?
    To me it just looks like things are going exactly according to script.
    54AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:44
    Re: #34
    TV talent get booked precisely because they stay "on" even when it's not their moment — able to put on a face and react on cue.
    Letting your guard down when it's not your turn isn't unique to these girls; you see the same thing in other idols' interview scenes all the time.

    If anything, FT's (FRUITS ZIPPER's) forced, over-the-top "we're so close" celebration routine is the abnormal part — which is exactly why the one person not doing it stood out.
    144AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:45
    Re: #34
    This one's easy to follow.
    61AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:51
    Every time bullying or bad-blood rumors pop up in a girl idol group like this, it's a mystery why Nogizaka46 never seems to have this kind of woman-on-woman drama.
    66AnonymousOct 1, 2026 17:54
    Re: #61
    Nishino Nanase and Akimoto Manatsu are a famous case, aren't they?
    Early on it was Nishino who one-sidedly disliked her, but they later reconciled and got close.
    77AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:04
    Re: #61
    With that many members, there's probably always someone they click with, or management handles it well.
    Though early in the 3rd generation, Kubo seemed a bit shaky…
    90AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:12
    That certain "Clover"-something group was like this too, wasn't it.
    98AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:14
    Re: #90
    Green really was pitiful.
    I change the channel whenever the other members come on TV.
    106AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:17
    Re: #90
    There's footage of Fukuhara Haruka being treated like this too, back when she was a model.
    This kind of thing happens fairly often in all-female groups.
    Heck, it happens in groups of middle-aged women too.
    96AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:14
    They've been doing this for quite a while already — do relationships really sour at this point? If there's no leader, the adults running things need to manage this properly.
    105AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:17
    Re: #96
    How exactly are you supposed to keep a bunch of women in their late 20s/early 30s in line?
    If most of the members were teens, maybe, but…
    113AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:23
    Re: #96
    They're adults themselves to begin with. What are you even talking about?
    147AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    Tabloids really are behind on the news — look what happened at yesterday's live.
    https://x.com/ramenlunapippi/status/2105284363365797983

    Amaneki said, "I didn't have a hair accessory that matched this hairstyle, so I called Runa and borrowed one! I'll do my best for Runa's sake too, so please cheer us on!" — she was wearing Runapi's ribbon and I burst into tears…
    Manafii even changed the song lyrics to "Runa Runa Runaaa!🎶," and during the encore Osuzu danced while holding Runapi's plushie — I love them, this is the best😿💜
    150AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:49
    Re: #147
    Trying to settle everything with just this is a stretch, honestly.
    Management really fumbled this one.
    152AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:50
    Re: #147
    Instant, manufactured tearjerker moments (what fans call "kandou porno") are rough to watch.
    215AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:45
    Re: #147
    If anything, this is just their everyday normal.
    The only ones who don't know that are haters and bandwagon fans.
    163AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:57
    From the September 7 ANNX broadcast
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBknoCHE8Rs&t=1412s
    Tsukiashi: "This morning Runa, me, Yui, and Manafi were all cheerfully singing COSMOS together.
    Like, before we knew it, the four of us had even split it into parts and were singing it properly."
    172AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    Re: #163
    It's funny how this completely debunks the "bad blood" rumor every single time.
    Behind the scenes they're perfectly on good terms.
    Everyone listens to ANNX, you know.
    Not falling for it lol
    175AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:06
    Re: #163
    And by the way, this was before the "First Take" video even came out.
    At this point the "bad blood" story is basically unrebuttable lol
    182AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:11
    Re: #163
    A shining example of a fan trying desperately hard (lol)
    203AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:32
    Even if they hired blatant damage-control shills, aren't they completely glossing over things like the baffling stuff that happened at that day's live, and the fact that some members are going along with Purple's behavior?
    207AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:36
    Re: #203
    She's not feeling well.
    It's been going on since before this whole thing started.
    Fans already know.
    211AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:42
    Re: #203
    Honestly this thread looks like it's full of haters posting under fake accounts to stir things up.
    210AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:41
    It's not even trending anymore — this article's late.

    Yahoo Trend Search, last 24 hours:
    fruitszipper — Positive 90% / Negative 10%
    Furubba — Positive 86% / Negative 14%
    Runa Nakagawa — Positive 77% / Negative 23%
    Runapi — Positive 67% / Negative 33%
    Amane Tsukiashi — Positive 86% / Negative 14%
    Amaneki — Positive 78% / Negative 22%
    213AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:43
    Re: #210
    Guess they worked hard behind the scenes on all sorts of things lol
    217AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:50
    Re: #210
    No matter how hard some faction pushes this far-fetched "bad blood" story, you can't keep a lid on the truth.
    Everyone ends up realizing the truth — there was never any bad blood at all.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    FRUITS ZIPPER is a seven-member idol group that launched in 2022 as a TikTok-born project, with Runa Nakagawa as one of its members. Regarding her absence from “NHK Nodo Jiman” this time, the official social media account only cited “poor health,” and neither Nakagawa herself nor her management has explicitly confirmed any link to the bashing. It’s worth noting that the “member-ignoring” video circulating online is only a few seconds of cut footage, and many posts jumped to conclusions about attitude without knowing the context before or after. On the thread, two views clashed without reaching common ground: one holding that, as part of an idol’s job, performing a “close friends” image is part of the product’s value, and another holding that members shouldn’t be expected to manage and perform even their private feelings. Meanwhile, many posts cited remarks made on radio shows and at live performances to deny the rift rumor, with opinions diverging depending on the source of the information.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread ‘[Idol] The “Member-Ignoring Video” and “Spread of Bashing” Damage That Led FRUITS ZIPPER’s Runa Nakagawa to Cancel Her TV Appearance.’