Category: Idols

  • Former AKB48 Member Maria Abe (30) Announces Marriage & Pregnancy — 5ch: “She Was Cute When She Joined”

    Former AKB48 member, model, and TV personality Maria Abe (30) announced her marriage and first pregnancy via Instagram on the 26th. She revealed that she is marrying “a non-celebrity partner she has been dating for some time,” along with the news that she is expecting her first child. On the 5ch “Geinou Sports Breaking News+” board, the thread quickly filled with puns riffing on how her name evokes the hymn “Ave Maria,” while users who remembered her from AKB48’s general-election boom years shared nostalgic comments like “She was in the group during the peak election-craze era” and “She was cute when she joined.” Others, however, questioned whether the topic warranted its own thread at all, saying things like “Don’t start a thread over some no-name talent.”

    Sat, Sep 26, 9:37 AM

    Former AKB48 member, model, and TV personality Maria Abe (30) announced her marriage and first pregnancy via Instagram.

    She posted a statement titled “An Announcement.” “This is a personal matter, but I wanted to share that I will be marrying a non-celebrity partner I have been in a relationship with for some time,” she wrote, announcing her marriage. She also revealed her first pregnancy, adding, “I would also like to share that I have been blessed with a new life.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:57
    Yeah, yeah, I see exactly what's going on here
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:57
    Dunno if it's her real name or a stage name, but imagine having a name like that
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:57
    Had no idea who she was, so I looked her up — turns out she's huge and working steadily in Taiwan
    11AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:58
    She was cute when she joined, huh
    https://video.fc2.com/ja/content/20220228U77Wdv4z
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:58
    Well, as far as novelty acts go, that's basically the ideal life lol ("iromono" = a gimmick/oddball entertainer, not a mainstream idol)
    14AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:58
    If she takes her husband's surname, does that mean she's no longer 'Ave Maria'?
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:59
    Re: #2
    At 30, a shotgun marriage (getting married because she's already pregnant) is honestly about the best outcome
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:59
    I know 'Abe Mario' (a pun mashing up former PM Shinzo Abe and Mario), but never heard of this person
    19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:00
    First time hearing of her, even with such a memorable name for an AKB member
    20AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:00
    Sounds like a manga character's name
    Ave Maria
    22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:01
    At this point she should just give birth in a manger
    That's what I'd do
    55AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:22
    Re: #22
    And it'd be even funnier if she caught flak from every direction for it
    24AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:01
    What's with this 'her partner is an ordinary person' line


    You're an ordinary person too, buddy
    34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:05
    Re: #24
    For what it's worth, she's from the AKB general-election boom era — she's an actual working talent
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:04
    That name almost sounds blasphemous to Christianity
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:06
    How do people like this even make a living
    39AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:07
    Don't make a thread over some no-name talent.
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:08
    It's a stage name, right? lol

    Don't tell me it's real?? lol lol
    42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:09
    Former AKB member
    Apparently there've been like 1,400 of them total

    I was a fan for a while and even I couldn't name 100
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:10
    Wasn't there an old-school actress with a similar name too?
    44AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:12
    For I am the Virgin Emperor (slang for a lifelong virgin), and so
    whenever I encounter news such as this,
    sorrow overtakes me, and tears trace down my cheeks
    47AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:15
    Re: #44
    Is 'Virgin Emperor' basically short for 'Emperor of Virgins'?
    45AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:14
    If you followed AKB during the boom years, you'd know her name — she was that kind of member
    Not like today's obscure underground idols, she's in the same tier as Mayuyu (Mayu Watanabe) or Yuko Oshima
    50AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:19
    If she's got a big build, she doesn't tend to be popular with the otaku crowd
    52AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:20
    So both her and the guy are just ordinary people, right?
    Feels like this didn't even need to be news
    59AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:26
    'Ave Maria' —
    sounds just like the Virgin Mary's name
    63AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:31
    I wonder if her AKB classmate Iriyama is still in Mexico
    66AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:32
    Re: #63
    She was in 'Gavan' (a Mexican reboot of the tokusatsu show 'Space Sheriff Gavan'), right? As one of the main cast
    70AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:36
    She was in AKB during its absolute peak, and even saying she wanted to model, the work just never came
    Well, that says it all
    73AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:39
    Felt like she was around ages ago, but she's still only 30
    76AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:41
    Re: #73
    Members like Ami Maeda joined really young, that's why
    74AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:39
    Aaaaaaaaa-be Maaaaaaaa-riiiiiiiii-aaaaaa (an elongated shout of her name)
    75AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:40
    Who on earth gave her a stage name that sounds like a joke…
    Everyone would think of it, but everyone would also steer clear of it on purpose
    78AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:44
    Wasn't she in the same class as the 'Fresh Lemon' unit or something?
    81AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:49
    Yuki Kashiwagi's basically an old lady in her 40s now
    Maria Abe, from that same era, was still young back when she was in the group
    84AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:57
    Just remembered I shook her hand at the all-member handshake event for 'Sayonara Crawl' (an AKB48 single)
    85AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:58
    Is she gonna insist it's an immaculate conception?
    87AnonymousSep 26, 2026 16:04
    Isn't 'Ave Maria' in the hymn just 'Hail Mary,' not like 'Maria Avenue'?

    Background and Talking Points

    Maria Abe was a member of AKB48 during the height of the group’s general-election frenzy, and the thread showed a split between users who instantly recognized her name and those who had no idea who she was — a reflection of just how uneven the “peak AKB48” experience was depending on a fan’s generation and level of devotion. The main draw of the thread was the coincidence that her name, Maria Abe, echoes the hymn “Ave Maria,” which set off a wave of puns and “immaculate conception” jokes; it’s worth noting these were wordplay riffing on the name itself rather than attacks on her looks or character. Meanwhile, comments questioning “why report this if her partner is just an ordinary person” reflect a broader, recurring gripe with how celebrity marriage news habitually describes the non-famous partner as “a civilian” — a phrasing this kind of story draws criticism for again and again.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou Sports Breaking News+) thread “Former AKB48 member Maria Abe (30) announces marriage & pregnancy: ‘I have been blessed with a new life’ — partner is a non-celebrity.”

  • Many on 5ch Say They Were Team Ami Suzuki Over Ayumi Hamasaki and Hikaru Utada — ‘Cute, But Her Singing Was Kinda Rough’

    A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board titled “Back then, I honestly liked Ami Suzuki more than Ayumi Hamasaki, Hikaru Utada, or Morning Musume” drew responses from the generation who lived through the idol-wars era around 1998. Opinions on her singing were split — “she was cute, but her singing was bad” versus “she got better once she grew up” — and posters also recalled the CD sales of the time and the era’s mood, summed up as “produced by Tetsuya Komuro = the real deal, produced by Tsunku = a novelty act.” Rather than a simple popularity contest, the interesting part this time was how differently people explained WHY they liked her.

    1AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:43
    That was me, and I don't regret it
    2AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:44
    I never got what was so great about her, not even a little
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:52
    The first CD I ever bought in my life was an Ami Suzuki CD
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:55
    My favorite song of hers is 'Don't Need to Say Goodbye'
    Even though she wasn't a great singer, the ballad still felt really nice
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD0LnHhNLg8&list=RDyD0LnHhNLg8&start_radio=1
    9AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:57
    Her pitch was just slightly off and I honestly couldn't take it
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:58
    I went to see her debut event at Dockyard Garden in Minato Mirai
    She was cute, but yeah, her singing was pretty rough
    11AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:00
    It was brutal that she had to go on hiatus right at her peak because of her parents
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:04
    She was ridiculously cute
    Singing aside
    14AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:06
    I never expected idols to have great singing skills or anything like that anyway
    But she's actually gotten good since growing up, check this out
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70cRtKok_oE&list=RD70cRtKok_oE&start_radio=1
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:07
    If we're counting 1998 debuts, you've gotta throw MISIA, Ringo Sheena, and aiko in there too
    16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:08
    When 'Furusato' dropped, it was a three-way showdown released the same day as Ayumi Hamasaki's 'Boys & Girls' and Ami Suzuki's 'Be Together'
    In the end, Ayumi Hamasaki was the one who won that round
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:12
    Out of that group, I did like Ami Suzuki
    But I thought Utada was the real deal, though I figured she wouldn't keep selling forever
    And I figured Hamasaki would be the one loved across all ages and genders
    In the middle of all that, I was rooting for Morning Musume
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:14
    Ayumi Hamasaki leaned more toward 'artist'
    Ami Suzuki felt more like an 'idol'
    Amuro-chan (Namie Amuro) drifted toward artist territory too
    Utada was an artist from day one
    19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:17
    I quite liked her single 'Reality' too, the one right before her hiatus
    It lost to Ayumi Hamasaki and Mai Kuraki, but I think it still hit No. 3 on the Oricon chart
    20AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:19
    Re: #8
    Same here. Can't remember the timeline exactly, but her and Yuka Saegusa in dB were my picks
    21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:27
    I was already shocked that Utada's 'First Love' moved 2 million copies in its first week
    But Ami Suzuki's 'SA' moving 1 million in its first week shocked me even more
    22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:29
    Re: #1
    Setting Hamasaki and Utada aside
    there really was that whole 'Komuro-produced = the real deal, Tsunku-produced = a novelty act' vibe back then, huh
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:29
    Wait, who actually won when she went head-to-head with Morning Musume?
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:32
    To begin with, Morning Musume and Amigo (Ami Suzuki's fan nickname) weren't really framed as rivals
    I was in middle school back then, and the comparison people actually made was between Hamasaki and Amigo
    I was Team Hamasaki myself
    26AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:40
    I tried building a batting lineup out of Ami Suzuki songs (skipping the fielding positions)

    1. INFINITY 18
    2. Love the Island
    3. Alone in My Room
    4. BE TOGETHER
    5. Don't Need to Say Goodbye
    6. All Night Long
    7. White Key
    8. Noting Without You
    9. HAPPY NEW MILLENNIUM
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:24
    Re: #26
    I know 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:56
    I never understood the appeal of Ayumi Hamasaki, Ami Suzuki, or Tomomi Kahala, and that hasn't changed to this day
    28AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:00
    Having her cover a TM Network song cracked me up
    30AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:08
    Back in those days, every women's magazine cover was Ayu (Hamasaki)
    31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:24
    My image of Ami Suzuki is from just a bit before that era
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:27
    I picked #1 on purpose as an album track
    but #5 is basically her masterpiece — no argument there, you already know it
    34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:29
    The only Ami Suzuki song I like is 'White Key'
    35AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:34
    My favorite song of hers is 'Don't Leave Me Behind'
    38AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:52
    Actually, I don't even get the impression her debut single sold that well
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:56
    Oh yeah, I know TM Network's 'Be Together'
    42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:57
    Yuri Nakamura, who passed away —
    her debut was almost the exact same time as Morning Musume's, huh
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:57
    What's the Ayu/Ami board even like these days?
    44AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:57
    Wasn't her debut song something like 'Love tha Island'?
    I don't really have much of an impression of it
    My image of her is more like 'All Nairon, All Nairon' (a mishearing of 'All Night Long') and 'White Key'
    52AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:03
    I only found out Amigo and Morning Musume were considered rivals after I started hanging around Ookami (the Morning Musume fan board)
    I wasn't interested in either back then and only listened to bands, so from what I could see at the time, they seemed like completely separate things to me
    53AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:03
    I wasn't an otaku back then, but I was Team Nacchi (Natsumi Abe), so it was sad watching us get crushed by 'Furusato'
    If we had to lose, I'd at least have wanted us to lose to 'Manatsu no Kousen' (Midsummer's Ray)
    54AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:05
    That showdown just had the bad luck of running into Ami Suzuki's biggest hit

    5th place
    55AnonymousSep 26, 2026 14:07
    There's no way you're winning with a Showa-style ballad like 'Furusato'
    That was the least popular type of song for that whole era

    Background and Discussion Points

    Around 1998 was a period when Hikaru Utada’s “First Love,” Ayumi Hamasaki’s debut, and Morning Musume’s rise all overlapped, with Ami Suzuki making her debut in almost the same stretch of time. Within the thread, posters recalled the era’s mood in terms like “produced by Tetsuya Komuro = the real deal” versus “produced by Tsunku = a novelty act,” and quite a few noted that Ami Suzuki was often lumped together and compared with Ayumi Hamasaki as being on the more “idol” side of things. Opinions on her singing lined up along “she wasn’t great, but her cuteness made it forgivable” versus “she got better once she grew up” — notably, many posters separated singing ability from idol appeal rather than framing it as simple like-or-dislike. Meanwhile, anecdotes like the “Furusato showdown” mentioned in reply 16, where release dates supposedly overlapped, are based on individual memories, and even within the thread the exact rankings and dates don’t fully line up. It’s worth keeping in mind while reading that some of this may involve misremembered sales figures mixed with rose-tinted nostalgia.

    *This article was excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Back then, I honestly liked Ami Suzuki more than Ayumi Hamasaki, more than Hikaru Utada, more than Morning Musume lolololololololololol.”

  • Hello! Project Trainee Yuna Aoki Crowns Herself ‘Ao-King’

    Hello! Project trainee Yuna Aoki referring to herself as “Ao-King” in an official SNS post from the trainee management account has become a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread mainly revolved around the backstory of the nickname — some pointed out she’d already been using it since around a June concert, others found it amusing since multiple Hello! Project members already go by “King” nicknames (like Suzu-King), and some claimed the nickname actually originated on a specific message board. Speculation about which group she might eventually be promoted to was also a big part of the buzz.

    Hello! Project Trainee Manager@kenshusei_uf

    Good morning☀ Good afternoon🌞 Good evening⭐

    It’s Ao-King👑, aka Yuna Aoki, yo👍

    Source: helloproject.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:35
    Is it a trend lately for kouhai (juniors) to bite their senpai's persona?
    4AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    Is she from Kansai?
    49AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:26
    Re: #4
    Same as Me-sa, Hyogo
    5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    Wait, wasn't "Ao-King" Sakamoto-chan?
    8AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    Re: #5
    That's "Ao-ringo" (Blue Apple) you're thinking of
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    This one just feels more like an actual "King" honestly
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    Add more Kings, collect them all, and bring back the High-King
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:37
    We don't need two "kings," come on
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:38
    There's already a chubby YouTuber going by Ao-King, you know
    13AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:38
    Re: #1
    Way too online
    She's been calling herself that since the June concert anyway
    14AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:38
    Direct any complaints about Ao-King to Mr. Nakajima
    16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:39
    There are not two suns in the sky, and there is only one King on Earth!
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:40
    By the way, the self-given nickname built off her first name is "Yunapyon" — if you're an ANGERME fan, you'd already know Moimoi goes by "Yuppyon" for the same reason
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:40
    The one who coined it was a poster called "nksk"
    21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:45
    Hope she hurries up, joins ANGERME, and clowns around to her heart's content
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:48
    Off to ANGERME together with Suzu-King
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:49
    She's got that agency-idol look, somehow — like a Stardust Promotion face
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:51
    So this one's a King, huh
    Ichuki's the "kingu"
    29AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:52
    Did she start pretending to be a Tsubaki fan because she wants in on ANGERME?
    31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:53
    Poor Itsuki — first her 5-character call gets ripped off, now her nickname too
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:55
    Re: #31
    Well, she's a future top-runner
    If anything it's an honor
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:53
    She's always stuck in the back row in group photos, makes you want to root for her
    34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:54
    Her looks are more than good enough, so as long as she doesn't quit I think she'll get promoted
    Put another way, she's the type who could be an idol even outside Hello! Project
    35AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:54
    She may not look it, but she's the same age as Nemokari
    50AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:27
    Re: #35
    So that means she's the same age as Nonnon and Tomoa-chan, first-year middle schoolers
    39AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:55
    Hasn't she been saying that for quite a while now?
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:57
    Toma-Yuna
    Kojima Hana
    Ao-King
    42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:58
    I love how she's always in the very back row throwing up peace signs with both hands
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:06
    Kato Taka keeps milking this bit, but who even cares about a joke like this
    63AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:42
    Met-kun and Kato Taka are against the "Ao-King" nickname and are trying hard to get people to stop using it

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Under Hello! Project’s “trainee” system, candidates awaiting promotion to full membership go through a period of building name recognition through concerts and social media, and nicknames often take root organically among fans during this stretch. In this case, there were claims that “Ao-King” was already in use as far back as a June concert, meaning this instance looks less like the birth of a new nickname and more like the manager account simply confirming one that already existed. Where opinions in the thread diverged was over how to view the overlap with existing “King” nicknames already in circulation (such as Suzu-King) — some welcomed the overlap as amusing, others found it annoying. One point worth clarifying: nicknames like this are generally not something the member or her agency assigns officially; instead, fans or the members themselves start using them, and they get semi-officially adopted later on.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Hello! Project trainee Yuna Aoki declares herself “Ao-King” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL“.

  • Theatrical Girls’ Division’s “TIME REPEAT” Sells Out Every Single Performance

    Hello! Project’s BEYOOOOONDS-starring stage play “TIME REPEAT” (Theatrical Girls’ Division) has sold out every performance, including the fan-club presale. Perhaps as a backlash to how highly acclaimed the previous production was, reports flooded the Hello! Project board on 5ch that even general-sale tickets vanished within minutes. Opinions in the thread were split over whether the fan-club presale lottery is really fair, and whether stage plays — a medium where reserved seating should in theory make it easier for new or female fans to get in — are in practice just being filled up by the same die-hard fanbase.

    Kokumin Kyosai coop Hall / Space Zero Affiliated Performance — Theatrical Girls’ Division “TIME REPEAT”

    Source: helloproject.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:24
    Theatrical Girls' Division "TIME REPEAT"
    https://t.pia.jp/pia/event/event.do?eventBundleCd=b2670686
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:27
    The guy who said tickets would be "easy to get," lol
    9AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:28
    Well of course — this is BEYOOOOONDS, they were averaging over 800 people a week at Stellar Ball
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:31
    Thought I could snipe just one ticket solo and whiffed.
    Had no choice but to grab one through the cast presale instead.
    21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:40
    I saw the last one so I was sure I'd go this time too, but I was way too naive.
    Guess live-viewing screenings just aren't a thing for stage plays.
    Maybe a stream, then?
    24AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:41
    Only got 2 out of 8 shows in the FC presale and wanted at least one more, but they vanished instantly.
    Could they think about venue capacity a little more?
    28AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:46
    Juice=Juice's was incredible, I went twice — the content alone was just that good.
    Everyone who saw the last one is applying again, plus all the BEYOOOOONDS fans are applying too, so of course you can't get in.
    30AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:47
    If you thought Juice=Juice's stage play was good, the others are even better (Angerme's aside).
    31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:48
    I wonder if there'll be a stream once all the performances wrap.
    Stage plays really do need to be seen live though.
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:48
    A big part of why Juice=Juice's stage play was so good was Inaba.
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:48
    For BEYOOOOONDS' spy play ("Beyo Spy"), there were zero same-day tickets for any Tokyo show.
    37AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:49
    That's because last time there were tons of leftover tickets for Ocha's (a cast member's nickname) shows.
    39AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:49
    There's a suspense angle and the culprit twist keeps flip-flopping.
    Music's good too — though it'll probably be different this time around.
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:49
    Well, honestly it's a rerun, though.
    The only thing I care about is whether the ending changes.
    Plus I've already got Sugiyama's big acting moments pretty much memorized.
    42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:50
    Had a bad experience with the whole re-purchase mess during COVID and ended up quitting as an oshi.
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:50
    With this cast and story, I've got a feeling this one could finally be a masterpiece on par with "Mori-Beyo."
    No wonder people have their hopes up.
    44AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:51
    Forget the ending — even all the songs in the show are getting changed.
    46AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:52
    I couldn't get tickets to save my life, I'm about to go bald over this.
    47AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:53
    Last time I went, I spotted Tsubaki Factory members in the back row.
    If it's sold out this time, other Hello! Project members won't even be able to come watch, huh?
    I wonder if they'll release the industry seats or the tech-booth seats.
    48AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:54
    Apparently the director watched the last production and it was so good they cried.
    Said it was the first time they'd ever cried watching their own work.
    49AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:54
    Applied for every performance through the FC and only won one.
    Then through general sale I managed to buy two, including the final show.
    The FC lottery odds make zero sense.
    51AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:56
    BEYOOOOONDS' regulars already pull in casual fans who otherwise never show up.
    That alone makes it brutal competition, and if Mano/Yuna's new fans and stage-play lovers pile on too…
    59AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:02
    Re: #51
    Why would casual fans who never normally show up suddenly turn out just for a stage play?
    52AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:57
    Figured I could at least grab one ticket for a weekday show — nope, every performance sold out in 4 minutes.
    53AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:57
    The last production was the greatest Hello! Project stage play of all time.
    55AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:58
    Weekday shows come with stage greetings and send-offs, so I figured the odds would be brutal and avoided them.
    56AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:00
    Watching the last one got me into reading time-slip novels.
    57AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:00
    Honestly the two productions after "Mori-Beyo" were pretty mediocre, so this is probably partly a rebound from that.
    60AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:03
    Everyone piles in because there's this sense of security that it's a sure bet.
    61AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:06
    They've got Budokan in November, so I guess there won't be any extra performances added?
    62AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:07
    Why aren't they doing it at Sunshine (theatre)?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Theatrical Girls’ Division is a stage-production project that draws performers from multiple Hello! Project groups, with the lineup changing from show to show. This time, thanks to the strong reputation of the previous production, competition was already fierce at the fan-club presale stage, and reports poured into the thread that even general-sale tickets for every performance sold out within minutes. The point of contention was whether stage plays — a medium that, with reserved seating, should in theory be more accessible to casual fans and women — are in practice just being snapped up by the same existing hardcore fanbase. Frustration was also voiced over the opaque criteria for winning the fan-club presale lottery, and the practice of dropping after-talk sessions once a show sells out, though these remain individual fan accounts rather than officially explained selection criteria.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[BEYOOOOONDS-Starring Stage Play] Theatrical Girls’ Division “TIME REPEAT” Sells Out Every Performance.”

  • Juice=Juice New Fans Say ‘Current 11 Members Are the Best’ — Old-Guard Fans Push Back

    Hello! Project idol group Juice=Juice formed in 2013 and is now in its 13th year, but a 5ch thread split into opposing camps after a new fan posted, “I don’t know the 13-year history, but the current 11 members are definitely the best.” Critics asked how someone could call the current lineup “the best” without knowing the group’s past songs and former members. In response, some pointed to modern circumstances — like YouTube’s search function getting worse, making old footage harder to track down — while others defended the fan, saying “of course you think the moment you discovered them is the best.” Meanwhile, some longtime fans posted comments revealing more complicated feelings.

    1AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:28
    Honestly, the saddest ones are the old-timers who always say "my era was the best."
    5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:32
    That's contradictory — don't you even watch the videos?
    You can't call the present "the best" without knowing the past.
    58AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:43
    Re: #5
    It's hard to dig up old videos these days.
    YouTube's search function has gotten worse too, making it a pain.
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:33
    For an idol who's made it big, the moment they broke through counts as both day one and year one.
    8AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:34
    Knowing the songs means knowing the past.
    New fans just don't run very deep.
    11AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:35
    Re: #8
    These days you can cover that with live recordings anyway.
    And there's not much point studying up on songs they don't even perform live.
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:36
    Of course you think the moment you found them is the best.
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:37
    Re: #15
    Not really, no.
    22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:37
    Re: #15
    This is actually more true the older and more old-school you get.
    They convince themselves their own glory days were the best and tend to bash the younger generation for it.
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:38
    The anti-Juice energy coming from these "moremi newbies" (5ch slang for fans drawn in by a member's flattering photos/edits) is insane lolololol
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:39
    Re: #25
    They're spending more money than the old-guard fans ever did, and you call them anti-fans?
    35AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:40
    Re: #25
    Just leave it to the moremi newbies and Juice will naturally enter its death phase lol
    26AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:38
    The entertainment industry is unreasonable like that.
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:40
    Re: #26
    The current members kept grinding through hard times without giving up, even when they got sidelined, and ended up surpassing the original members who only got by on being pushed hard by the agency — honestly, it turned out not so bad after all.
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:41
    Re: #36
    See, look —
    this is already turning into S/mileage 2nd-gen fan behavior! (a Hello! Project group whose 2nd-gen fans were notorious for looking down on the original lineup)
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:39
    If you can't enjoy the whole graduation-and-new-member cycle, it'll wreck your mental health.
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:41
    Re: #33
    A group where graduations and new additions become the whole point dies the instant that cycle stops.
    47AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:41
    Just disband with the current lineup already.
    53AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:42
    Re: #47
    Sure, right after they fold all the other groups that aren't making money.
    60AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:43
    Re: #53
    They are making money.
    You just assume they're not.
    48AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:42
    Same here — I'm also a moremi newbie since March this year, and I think the current 11 members are the best.
    56AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:43
    Re: #48
    Exactly.
    These self-proclaimed old-timers keep pushing old videos on us, but honestly the old stuff wasn't even that good.
    50AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:42
    Re: #43
    The early S/mileage lineup is actually a dark chapter — not a single one of them got invited to the Hello! Project 25th anniversary Yoyogi concert.
    80AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:46
    Re: #50
    Called it!
    Just like the 2nd-gen fans who love to lord it over the original S/mileage lineup!!
    54AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:42
    Isn't more than half the crowd at Juice shows made up of new fans now?
    As an old-timer, it's a little sad.
    64AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:44
    Re: #54
    Longtime "always-there" fans don't buy merch, so they're prioritizing new fans and locals instead.
    That's exactly why merch sold like crazy in Hiroshima and Kyoto, just as planned.
    67AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:44
    Don't call yourself a Juice fan if you don't even know the original members.
    Go do your homework.
    71AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:45
    Re: #67
    You're being persistent about this.
    If the present is good, the past doesn't matter.
    82AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:47
    Re: #67
    Per Re: #6, isn't the original-lineup era basically just a prologue anyway?
    Even for M!LK, hardly anyone knows about the original members who quit before the group made it big.
    110AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:50
    This is the downside of going viral.
    Because it blew up out of nowhere, bandwagon fans came flooding in, and once they took over,
    the history, traditions, and sense of belonging the old-guard fans cherished got mercilessly destroyed.
    114AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:51
    Re: #110
    Seeing stuff like this makes me think, "just let it all get destroyed already."
    118AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:52
    Re: #110
    It's not good for old-guard fans to throw their weight around too much either.
    If you don't welcome new fans in moderation, the fanbase just turns into a dying rural village and speeds toward the content's end.
    Balance is what matters.
    126AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:53
    Re: #110
    Part of me wants to say who needs an unsuccessful history or old-guard fans anyway —
    but the agency doesn't have much power left these days, so without dedicated fans picking up the slack in various ways, things are probably going to fall apart.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Juice=Juice is a female idol group formed under Hello! Project in 2013, making this its 13th year since debut. Many of the original members graduated early on, and the names mentioned in the thread — Miyamoto Karin, Kanazawa Tomoko, Uemura Akari, and Inaba Manaka — are among the past core members who went on to carry the group afterward. Whether you can call the present lineup “the best” without knowing the group’s history is a debate that keeps resurfacing among idol fans, with new fans citing practical obstacles to tracking down old footage (such as changes to YouTube’s search function) while longtime fans insist fans should study up on the songs and history. The latter half of the thread also touches on the sales of region-limited merchandise and older fans drifting away from live shows, suggesting that behind the generational clash lies not just an emotional divide but also unease over the commercial shifts that come with a changing fanbase.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “New moremi fan: “The 13-year history? Don’t know it, but the current 11-member Juice=Juice is definitely the best! Nobody should ever graduate” ← this.”

  • Morning Musume。’26 Bring Back ‘LOVE Machine’ for Utacon — 5ch: ‘That’s the Only Thing It’s Worth’

    NHK General TV’s “Utacon” (airing September 29, 2026) has announced that Morning Musume。’26 will appear in the “Genki Uta” (Feel-Good Songs) segment alongside veteran stars like Itsuki Hiroshi and Ishikawa Sayuri, performing their signature hit “LOVE Machine.” Since the slot features their classic 1999 hit rather than a new single, 5ch’s Hello! Project live-discussion thread saw a mix of sarcasm (“So they only get called up for the oldies specials?”) and defenses (“Just be grateful they got a slot at all”). The thread also buzzed about the group’s chances of appearing at the year-end Kohaku Uta Gassen special, and compared their popularity to fellow Hello! Project group Juice=Juice.

    Utacon

    Genki Uta! Itsuki, Ishikawa, Iruka, Shimazu, Leon, Cho Tokkyu

    Genki Uta! “YOUNG MAN” performed as a collab between Niihama Leon & Cho Tokkyu. Morning Musume。’26 performs “LOVE Machine.” ▽ Miyama Hiroshi sings Sen Masao’s “Yuyake Gumo,” a song that brings back memories of his early days in Tokyo. SHOW-WA covers Tulip’s “Kokoro no Tabi.” Shimazu Aya performs “Funauta,” the famous song by fellow Kumamoto native and senior singer Yashiro Aki! Hosted by Taniyama Shosuke (First broadcast: Tuesday, September 29, 2026)

    Source: web.nhk / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:24
    It's gonna be a new song plus Love Machine, right?
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:27
    Re: #2
    The new song is just a bonus?
    54AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:18
    Re: #2
    Unfortunately… (no new song)
    5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:26
    Re: #1
    None of them are new songs
    It's an oldies-only episode, so you don't have to force this into a mockery thread
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:28
    Re: #5
    So they only get called up for the oldies-only episodes?
    9AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:28
    Feels like Kohaku's on the table
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:29
    Re: #9
    I like how it's discussed as if a Morning Musume spot is just a given
    11AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:30
    Hello! Project's on a roll
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:31
    Re: #11
    Juice=Juice is the only one actually selling tickets, so Hello! Project as a whole isn't really on a roll
    13AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:33
    30th anniversary, so Kohaku it is
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:34
    Kind of sad that the new members' TV debut is on 'the Oldies Preservation Society' (mocking nickname for this old-fashioned song show)
    16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:35
    Re: #15
    Wasn't the 18th gen's TV debut them getting treated like trash on the 24-Hour TV telethon?
    As for live broadcasts, they're too young to be allowed on air live in that time slot anyway
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:36
    Morning Musume's 30th year — with the 30th anniversary coming up, they'll probably get more chances to perform 'Morning Coffee' and 'LOVE Machine' from here on
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:36
    Re: #17
    Will Okamura Homare be satisfied with just that?
    45AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:03
    Re: #17
    It's 'LOVE Machine,' 'Renai Revolution 21,' and 'Peace' — not 'Morning Coffee'
    19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:39
    You guys are complaining, but you should be grateful the oldies-slot Love Machine performance wasn't handed to some other idol group instead
    21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:40
    Re: #19
    But honestly, it'd probably get more buzz if it were handed to someone else
    The current Morning Musume lineup just doesn't have that kind of drawing power
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:41
    Why is everyone acting like last night's Buzz Rhythm appearance never happened?
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:41
    Re: #23
    If it were Juice=Juice, even a Buzz Rhythm-level appearance would have threads running for days straight
    29AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:46
    Re: #23
    Isn't the reaction weaker than when Juice=Juice was on TV?
    When Juice=Juice goes on TV, their vocal ability actually gets through to people outside the Hello! Project fanbase too
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:49
    Big step toward Kohaku right here
    35AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:52
    Re: #33
    With Morning Musume, even this counts as 'checkmate' territory?
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:52
    Just do 'Chikibun' already (apparent fan shorthand for a song title)
    48AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:06
    Re: #36
    The theme here is 'songs that make you feel energized,' though
    38AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:54
    If this already counts as 'checkmate,' they're probably singing Love Machine at Kohaku too
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:54
    Re: #38
    Is there even any sense of accomplishment in that?
    39AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:54
    This is just practice for an oldies medley at Kohaku
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:55
    Re: #39
    Is there even demand for that?
    44AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:03
    Love Machine again — I'm sick of it
    46AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:04
    Re: #44
    Because that's the only thing it's got going for it
    49AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:07
    The Love Machine comedy act has arrived キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (classic 'here it comes!' celebration text art)
    51AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:12
    Re: #49
    They're idols, you know
    61AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:35
    Well, just getting to appear is good enough
    If they want to change the public's image of 'Momusu,' the only way is to actually get popular
    68AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:46
    Re: #61
    Yeah, it really is that kind of 'moreru' song after all (net slang for a song that instantly hypes/flatters, like a good selfie)

    Background and Key Points

    Released in 1999, “LOVE Machine” is Morning Musume’s signature hit and remains a go-to number on music shows as a symbol of “genki” energy. This “Utacon” appearance isn’t for a new single — it’s slotted into “Genki Uta,” an oldies-focused segment lined up alongside veteran stars like Itsuki Hiroshi and Ishikawa Sayuri, where the whole theme is reviving classic hits that “make you feel energized.” The thread split over whether to read this booking as proof the group only gets called up for nostalgia slots, or as something to be grateful for simply landing a spot at all. Underlying the debate is a comparison with fellow Hello! Project group Juice=Juice, which is currently ahead in ticket sales and generating buzz on its own — feeding the argument that the current (’26) Morning Musume lineup struggles to draw attention with new material. Note: comments containing slander against real idol groups or discriminatory language have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Shocking] Morning Musume。’26 to Perform ‘LOVE Machine’ of All Things on Next Week’s “Utacon” (NHK General) wwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Morning Musume vs. Juice=Juice: 5ch Fans Debate the Huge Gap in Tour Set Lavishness

    On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a discussion broke out over the stark difference in stage set lavishness shown on the Hello! Project TV program “Hello Sta,” comparing tour stages. The original poster asked why Morning Musume’s set — ahead of Oda Sakura’s graduation tour — looked more extravagant than Juice=Juice’s, even though Juice=Juice is said to be the agency’s top earner. The thread expanded from arguments over staircases and lighting design to comparisons of venue capacity for the fall 2026 tours, with points like “Morning Musume mainly plays big halls, Juice=Juice mainly plays small halls” and “Juice=Juice actually has a higher average capacity per show” complicating any simple ranking of which group is doing better.

    1AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:37
    Is it because it's some crappy agency obsessed with the pecking order?
    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:39
    That was pretty rough, honestly
    Did they think people would be satisfied just because there's a door? lol
    4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:41
    Don't go pulling a half-empty show (gara-con) with a set this fancy
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:46
    Re: #4
    Whoa, those stairs even have a handrail
    5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:42
    Well yeah, it's Oda Sakura's graduation tour
    6AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:43
    Juice=Juice's stage has way too many close-ups, hard to tell what's going on
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:43
    People who actually went to a Juice=Juice show said it was lavish, but it really isn't
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:46
    If we're going down that road, Tsubaki Factory tours with a live band
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:51
    You'd think they'd turn a profit on Oda's tour, but merch sales and turnout are falling short of expectations — probably feels like a miscalculation to them
    Budget's getting cut starting next tour
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:23
    Re: #12
    No worries, Juice=Juice's got us covered on the money side
    13AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:56
    That set was built with the money Juice=Juice brought in
    19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:04
    Re: #13
    Exactly this
    Give us our money back
    14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 23:59
    Agency pecking order:
    Musume. = Angerme >>> Juice >>> everyone else
    20AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:05
    Re: #14
    You don't know how bare-bones Angerme's set is?
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:06
    Re: #14
    Exactly
    What matters to the agency is Musume. and Angerme
    Juice can go whatever
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:01
    It's barely going to make it onto this year's show, and you know how many more Kōhaku appearances (NHK's New Year's Eve song contest) it'd take to flip the pecking order?
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:03
    Re: #15
    Why not just judge by current popularity?
    16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:01
    Re: #9
    It's only got two staircases
    If anything that's on the plain side
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:04
    "Can't book a big hall" ← fair enough
    "Set's cheap too" ← wait, what?
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:08
    So Kōhaku has enough pull that appearing just once keeps your ranking safe for 20 years even as you decline? Impressive
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:09
    Re: #25
    Aw, sounds like that stings lol
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:12
    Re: #25
    I heard back in the day appearing on Kōhaku would spike your fee instantly
    Wonder if that's still true now
    28AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:10
    Juice=Juice tours small halls
    Morning Musume tours big halls


    That's the difference right there
    32AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:11
    Re: #28
    A packed small hall versus a half-empty big hall —
    which one's actually worth more?
    Small halls are cheaper to rent too, so Juice=Juice's cleaning up
    30AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:10
    The set for top earner Juice=Juice


    The set for Hello! Project flagship Morning Musume
    34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:13
    Re: #30
    Juice doesn't even get a raised platform?
    Aren't they supposed to be the best-selling group in Hello! Project?
    47AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:30
    By the way, I haven't heard complaints about Juice=Juice's set being cheap on this tour
    but I have heard complaints that the lighting overall is too dark
    49AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:32
    Re: #47
    Sounds like they're prioritizing mood over anything else
    It starts so dark you can't even see the members, then they show up on the monitors later, and it all lights up at once for the finale
    48AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:32
    Juice=Juice's tour scale is smaller, so they're not actually earning that much
    55AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:36
    Re: #48
    Capacity-wise there's not much of a gap with Musume. anymore

    Morning Musume '26
    Fall 2026 tour (Oda's graduation, 29 shows) *halls only
    Total capacity: 57,541 seats (down 8,795 from last year)
    Average capacity per show: 1,984 seats (down 26 from last year)

    Angerme
    Fall 2026 tour (no graduations, 25 shows) *halls only
    Total capacity: 40,637 seats (up 18,773 from last year)
    Average capacity per show: 1,625 seats (up 1,018 from last year)

    Juice=Juice
    Fall 2026 tour (no graduations, 24 shows) *halls + Nippon Budokan
    Total capacity: 50,074 seats (up 30,048 from last year)
    Average capacity per show: 2,086 seats (up 1,176 from last year)
    56AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:36
    Re: #48
    Go look up how much they're making on cheap weekday hall rentals
    60AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:40
    Re: #48
    That final four-show run at Kanadevia Hall has gotta have a really good profit margin
    No other group could pull that off
    59AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:39
    Re: #58
    That's not even counting Musume.'s Yokohama Arena date, or Juice=Juice's Pia Arena and Taiwan shows
    Roughly speaking Juice=Juice's total capacity is a little over 80% of Musume.'s
    61AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:42
    Re: #59
    So far they're selling 100% of seats
    64AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:44
    Sounds like a lot
    Sounds like it's selling well
    Hard to really tell
    66AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:45
    Re: #64
    Can't help that, nobody has the exact numbers
    No day-of tickets left
    Merch sold out
    those are the facts, and this is just speculation based on those facts
    67AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:46
    Re: #64
    It really is selling well

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Hello! Project’s agency doesn’t officially disclose how much each group earns, so the thread’s view that “Juice=Juice is the top earner” is based on fan impressions rather than confirmed figures. Venue counts and capacities, on the other hand, are public information that can be tallied up — and according to the fall 2026 tour numbers posted in the thread, while Morning Musume’s total capacity is larger overall, Juice=Juice actually has a higher average capacity per show. Morning Musume’s current tour is also tied to the milestone of Oda Sakura’s graduation, meaning the production budget may reflect the significance of that particular tour more than the group’s overall popularity. Several posters in the thread argued that judging agency pecking order or earning power purely from how fancy a stage set looks is premature, since lighting and staging choices may simply differ by group’s creative direction.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Watched today’s Hello Sta and man, why does Morning Musume’s set look fancier than Juice=Juice’s?“

  • Is 157cm the Ideal Height for Female Idols? Hello! Project’s Average Height Data Sparks Debate

    A thread kicked off with the post “I think around 157cm is the best height for a female idol,” and 5ch users dove into a debate over their preferred heights. The discussion soon moved from opinions to hard numbers, with posters naming specific members and even posting average height data for each Hello! Project subgroup. Juice=Juice, at 162.05cm the tallest group on average, was pointed out to also be one of the most popular — a fact that shook the very premise that “shorter is better.” Opinions split between those rooting for a height “you just want to protect” and those who felt that, for a professional performer, such heights are simply too short.

    1AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:00
    Not too tall, not too short — that's the sweet spot in the end
    2AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:01
    That's short.
    For a celebrity, 160cm should be the bare minimum.
    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:01
    Re: #1
    Says the short old dude who's only 160cm himself lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:05
    Nonaka's fudging her numbers, she's not even 157.
    It's probably more like Yasuda, Gotou, Irie, Kasai, or Yonemura level
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:06
    Re: #9
    Kasai's probably more like 152cm
    18AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:09
    Guys really do go for the size that makes them think 'I want to protect her.'
    The female fans demanding tall idols are just way too loud about it.
    26AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:12
    Re: #18
    What are you, Kurochan? (a Japanese comedian frequently the butt of looks-based jokes)
    36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:18
    Re: #28
    There are no short guys at KISS OF LIFE or HI-KEY shows
    43AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:21
    Re: #36
    K-pop fandoms are mostly female fans to begin with — guys are already a minority there.
    So that just proves it's the women who want tall idols.
    37AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:18
    In reality, most idols fall between 155-160cm, with the top-tier ones around 155cm or even shorter.
    39AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:20
    Re: #37
    But Dambara, the most popular member in Hello! Project right now, is 164.5cm
    45AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:23
    Re: #43
    Being short gets you passed over — both as an idol and as a biological matter.
    51AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:23
    Re: #45
    There it is, moving the goalposts.
    I win.
    53AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:25
    Loses at online arguments too, this short old dude lol
    55AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:25
    Re: #53
    Come on, leave him alone lmaooooo
    63AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:31
    Hello! Project average heights
    Juice=Juice 162.05cm
    BEYOOOOONDS 160.76cm
    OCHA NORMA 159.81cm
    Morning Musume。'26 158.85cm
    ANGERME 157.12cm
    Tsubaki Factory 156.32cm
    Rosy Chronicle 153.06cm
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLvzfSZawAA_5MR.jpg
    66AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:32
    Re: #63
    Rosy Chronicle's short lol
    75AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:37
    Re: #63
    So in reality, the group that's actually selling — Juice=Juice — has the highest average height.
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:32
    Re: #28
    Scientifically, low-income, short men tend to prefer short women or the petite 'loli' type.
    Conversely, high-income, tall men tend to prefer women with a great figure.
    73AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:36
    Re: #65
    I honestly think that's true.
    69AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:35
    Apparently the reason Dutch people are so tall is that Dutch women historically preferred tall men.
    76AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:38
    Re: #69
    That place is on another level.
    There was a foreign YouTuber who's 193cm and he was still below average there lol
    There were women who were 195cm lol
    77AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:38
    I think Hong Kong's ideal height was about that too.
    Go above or below that range and it's genuinely a minus there.
    79AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:39
    Re: #77
    Same old story — you're short and so is Hong Kong, apparently.
    Though maybe you actually are from Hong Kong.
    80AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:39
    https://images.keizai.biz/hirosaki_keizai/headline/1593347184_photo.jpg
    88AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:42
    Re: #80
    Ringo Musume are huge lol (a local idol group from Hirosaki known for its apple-themed image)
    82AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:41
    Juice=Juice's gotten so ridiculously tall they're barely idols anymore
    85AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:41
    Re: #82
    Where exactly are they big?
    Unless you're an unusually tall guy yourself, you wouldn't think Juice is tall.
    100AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:48
    Eba's still growing taller, right?
    107AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:50
    Re: #100
    I think she's around 159cm now.
    I recall she narrowly lost to Mifu-chan in height lol
    114AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:51
    Re: #107
    That's because Mifu was lying about her height
    106AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:50
    Itou Momoka's 157cm


    Yeah, I get it
    108AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:50
    Yuuchami's 174cm
    113AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:51
    Re: #108
    Pretty sure Yuuchami's actually 176cm

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The average heights cited in the thread for each Hello! Project subgroup largely reflect the groups’ official profile figures, with Juice=Juice’s 162.05cm the tallest and Rosy Chronicle’s 153.06cm the shortest. That gap is the foundation of the split between the ‘shorter is more protectable’ camp and those who see being too short as a disadvantage for a professional performer. One thing worth flagging: the thread’s claims that ‘female fans prefer taller idols’ and ‘male fans prefer petite ones’ aren’t backed by any actual survey of fan demographics — they’re purely anecdotal impressions. Likewise, the theory about Dutch mate-selection driving height and the references to overseas rating charts aren’t supported by any verifiable source; they’re presented here simply as talking points that came up in the thread.

    *This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “I think around 157cm is the best height for a female idol.”

  • “Today Too, We All Got Up Early” — Juice=Juice’s Post Sparks a Wave of Salary Speculation

    Idol group Juice=Juice member Risa Irie posted on her blog on September 25, 2026, writing, “Today we all did our best to get up early.” Her morning activity — coming in the middle of a packed schedule with a live show in Kyoto the day before and one in Fukuoka the next day — became a hot topic on 5ch, sparking a wave of salary speculation such as “She’s probably making seven figures a month (in yen)” and “On top of a base salary, there’s a bonus too.” Rumors even surfaced that bonuses are handed out in cash-stuffed envelopes, and the thread stayed lively with the truth left unconfirmed.

    A Fulfilling Day — Risa Irie

    2026-09-25 20:07:58

    Today we all did our best to get up early 🐢

    Source: ameblo.jp / Original post here

    2AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:13
    She had a live show in Kyoto yesterday and one in Fukuoka tomorrow — so did she skip going back to Tokyo and stay somewhere else instead?
    4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:15
    She's probably making seven figures a month (in yen)
    25AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:29
    Re: #4
    Maybe when they show up at the dressing room in the morning, there's a fat envelope stuffed with cash just sitting there waiting for everyone?
    51AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:22
    Re: #4
    Hello! Project idols aren't in it for the money
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:16
    The whole group gets along and works so hard together, so this must be a reward from the gods
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:16
    I don't think it's seven figures a month
    Probably just a bit more than what a regular office worker makes
    14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:22
    Re: #9
    It's been confirmed they're on a base-salary system plus bonuses, so with as much work as Juice=Juice puts in, they're definitely pulling a solid bonus
    20AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:28
    Well, if they're working this much, I'd at least want them to be getting a decent bonus
    21AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:28
    Re: #1
    Right — "Offshore = Company," matching the X=X format of their own name, if you catch my drift (a joking dig implying the agency's money disappears offshore)
    37AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:53
    Kyoto yesterday, Fukuoka tomorrow — so she actually went back to Tokyo in between?
    44AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:05
    Re: #37
    Maybe she was doing an on-location shoot in Kyoto?
    38AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:55
    Even if "Moremi" (a viral clip/nickname) went viral, that's just a YouTube video passing 10 million views — it probably won't bump her salary all that much.

    Beyond that she's picked up more terrestrial TV spots, magazine covers, and radio work, but how much would that really add to her commission-based pay?


    I'd guess Reirei, who landed the seasonal model gig for earth music&ecology, is probably earning the most out of all of them.
    39AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:57
    There's even a jealousy thread about this now.

    I'm genuinely worried about Juice=Juice being overworked. Could they hand off some of the workload to Tsubaki Factory?
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790336719/
    41AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:59
    Apparently there are cash payouts too — a former employee wrote about it in a review on a job-change website.
    Supposedly, whenever they land a hit song or sell out a big venue, the chairman hands out brown envelopes stuffed with cash to staff and talent alike, beaming with pride as he thanks and cheers them on.
    48AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:12
    Re: #41
    Not sure why, but that sounds like a scary world lol
    42AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:01
    A schedule where a radio show airing on 9/24 gets recorded back on 9/4
    43AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:01
    The chairman is 77 years old too — pretty energetic for his age
    45AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:05
    So it's work for all of them? Wonder what it is. The agency wouldn't schedule stuff in the middle of a tour, so it's probably outside work.
    56AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:41
    Re: #45
    For Hello! Project, people say "agency," not "management" — it's not like the AKB48 Group
    46AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:07
    But Risachi's bar event still hasn't sold out, you know.
    Risachi, it kills me.
    50AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:21
    Is it like Angerme wakes up and it's suddenly already nighttime?

    Background and Discussion Points on This Topic

    Idol salary structures aren’t disclosed by talent agencies, so the thread’s talk of “seven figures a month” or “cash bonus envelopes” doesn’t go beyond hearsay and speculation sourced from things like anonymous job-review sites. The group’s side has explained in the past that the contract combines a base salary with commission-based bonuses, but the actual breakdown of amounts has never been revealed. The heavy workload that became a topic this time reflects a packed travel schedule — a Kyoto show, morning activity in Tokyo, and a Fukuoka show the day after — which isn’t an unusual way of working for a group idol act. What readers should be careful not to misread is that the salary figures and comparisons with other groups floating around in the thread are all unverified rumor, not facts stated by the agency or the members themselves.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Breaking] Juice=Juice members at it again — working from the morning, all of them wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • BEYOOOOONDS to guest on BS Asahi music show — 5ch: “They’re making it biiiig!!!”

    It was announced on the official X account that BEYOOOOONDS will be the October guest on “Toshihiko Takamizawa’s Delicious Music, Beautiful Meals.” The show is a regular BS Asahi program hosted by THE ALFEE’s Toshihiko Takamizawa, built around pairing music guests with food. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, there was a brief mix-up over whether the broadcast was terrestrial TV or BS Asahi, along with calls for Angerme and Tsubaki Factory to get similar opportunities, and lively chatter tying the appearance to past collaborations with THE ALFEE’s Kōnosuke Sakazaki and Masaru Sakurai.

    “Toshihiko Takamizawa’s Delicious Music, Beautiful Meals”

    October guest lineup announced! 🎸

    BEYOOOOONDS’

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:42
    Give Morning Musume and Angerme some TV time too
    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:43
    Isn't that just Satomoka?
    Satomoka's about 80,000 times the artist Beyo(oooonds) is
    4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:43
    Is a Yume Group live show next? (Yume Group: a company notorious for cheesy nostalgia-concert infomercials aimed at older viewers)
    5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:43
    They're making it biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    6AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:45
    Well, Beyo-chan's finally getting her due
    Guess we can call it a wrap now?
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:46
    Re: #6
    This is just the start of a real wave of TV appearances
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:45
    That's the power of Kojima Hana
    11AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:46
    So Nishida's the one handling TV bookings for Beyo, huh
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:46
    Give Tsubaki Factory some TV appearances too, please
    13AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:48
    This'll probably get people talking about how Momohi's hairstyle looks like Takamizawa's ("Momohi" is a fan nickname for one of the members)
    14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:49
    Re: #1
    Which TV station is it?
    15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:50
    It's on terrestrial TV Asahi, let's gooo
    16AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:51
    It's BS Asahi
    17AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:52
    Production staff, can you please stop tying food into absolutely everything
    19AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:00
    This is their shot at getting Takamii to write them a song
    21AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:04
    Didn't Sakazaki's "Odaiba Folk Village" have Danbara Rurun and Taisei on recently?
    22AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:09
    So if they can perform with sunglasses-guy Sakurai next, that's a full ALFEE sweep
    26AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:12
    Re: #22
    Well, Sakurai doesn't have a show of his own though
    23AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:10
    Keep building those ALFEE connections lol
    24AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:10
    Wait, it's not even a music performance show?
    Get them on CDTV instead
    25AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:11
    Now that I think about it, Sakurai's the only one I barely ever see on TV solo
    27AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:12
    This is the kind of slot where the agency has to go beg for it
    28AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:12
    Hello! Project should make a member who makes you go "wait, YOU'RE the one singing?!"
    29AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:14
    Today's guest is DJ KOO, huh
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:15
    More info on Sakurai's radio show, please ("kwsk" = 5ch slang for "give details")
    66AnonymousSep 25, 2026 21:22
    What's Yume Group?
    Does it have anything to do with Up-Front (their management agency)?

    Background and key points of this topic

    “Toshihiko Takamizawa’s Delicious Music, Beautiful Meals” is a regular BS Asahi program hosted by THE ALFEE’s Toshihiko Takamizawa that has consistently paired music guests with food segments. Kōnosuke Sakazaki’s “Odaiba Folk Village,” which came up in the thread, is a similar music program in the same vein, and Hello! Project members have appeared on it before. Since Masaru Sakurai currently has no regular show of his own, fans tend to treat him as the last piece needed to complete a full set of THE ALFEE collaborations. One post briefly claimed the broadcast was on “terrestrial TV Asahi,” but that was a mix-up between BS Asahi and the TV Asahi terrestrial network — the actual broadcast is BS Asahi only. The amount of TV exposure each Hello! Project group gets tends to be read as a barometer of popularity, so an appearance announcement for one group often draws reactions from fans of the other groups as well.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “BEYOOOOONDS TV Appearance Confirmed キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (“It’s here!!”)“.