Category: Idols

  • Gravure Idol’s Promo Photo Looks Nothing Like Her in Person — 5ch Cries ‘False-Advertising Scam lol’

    Gravure idol and cosplayer Awa Minami updated her official X account on September 23, reporting that despite appearing at an in-store event, not a single fan approached her. Alongside an apology, she self-deprecatingly analyzed the cause, writing that she “can’t rule out the possibility of some discrepancy between the poster and the real thing” — a comment that’s since gone viral. On 5ch, many found the gap between her promotional photos and her actual appearance amusing, while others took a cooler view, suggesting the whole thing was a deliberate publicity stunt, and some pointed out that this kind of “packaging-photo scam” isn’t unusual in the gravure or adult-entertainment industries.

    Awa Minami, a talent working as both a cosplayer and gravure idol, updated her official X account on the 23rd. She revealed that although she appeared at an in-store event, the “gap” between her and her promotional poster was so big that no one recognized her — and the revelation is drawing a big reaction.

    Awa reported: “Today, even though the store was kind enough to prepare a large poster for me, I currently find myself in the harsh situation of having been approached by zero fans…”

    She apologized, saying, “I deeply apologize to the store and everyone involved for the great concern I’ve caused,” and went on: “After thinking it over in my own way, I’ve reached the conclusion that I can’t rule out the possibility of some discrepancy between the poster and the real thing.”

    Source: sirabee.com / Original article here

    9AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:23
    At least put in the effort to dress the same as in the poster.
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:23
    This is obviously a deliberate stunt for publicity, right?
    42AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:28
    Re: #11
    They've been running this same gimmick for pachinko-parlor promos for years now — everyone's long since sick of it.
    13AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:24
    I hope this thread's OP grows up to be the successor to "the Chilean guy" (an old 5ch in-joke about a legendary thread-starter).
    18AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:25
    This is wild…


    I've actually met Masami Nagasawa in person, off-camera.
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:26
    It's not that she looks different from the poster — isn't it just that nobody knows who she is to begin with?
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:26
    This kind of overly calculated stunt is just boring.
    34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:27
    This had me cracking up lol ("草生える," literally "grass is growing," = LOL)
    Though it was probably staged on purpose.
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:27
    Feels so forced.
    She's clearly marketing herself with that gap as her whole gimmick.
    36AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:27
    Guess she's just on a different level (and not in a good way).
    I see people who look just like her all the time on X.
    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:27
    It's not really the photo, it's the outfit that does all the work lol
    This is clearly intentional.
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:27
    There's been a lot more of this ever since Joyman (a Japanese comedy duo famous for this kind of exaggerated bit).
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:29
    She's getting complacent just because she's decent-looking.
    49AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:30
    This is literally her whole shtick, she's doing it on purpose.
    For some reason she keeps joking that it's her mom who shows up to these events.
    50AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:30
    She looks like some lady who wandered out in her house clothes to take out the trash.
    51AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:30
    Us older guys don't actually mind girls like this.
    54AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:31
    Is "zero fans showed up at the pachinko parlor" some kind of trend now?
    56AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:31
    This is just a regular customer you'd see hanging around a pachinko parlor.
    57AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:31
    Gravure idols can sometimes look way too different between their own DVD covers and
    a bit part they play in some TV drama….
    59AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:32
    She looks like some frumpy lady in a baggy T-shirt
    heading out to the supermarket, doesn't she—
    62AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:33
    At this point, the poster and the real her together are basically the complete work of art.
    77AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:35
    To a divorced woman, about "back then" —

    "Exactly the same / basically the same"
    or
    "Totally different / like a whole different person"

    which one am I even supposed to say?? lol

    Background and Talking Points

    “Packaging-photo scam” (パケ写詐欺) is slang mocking the gap between promotional photos and the real thing, a term also used in gravure, mail-order shopping, and job ads. In this case, she spread the story herself with an apology-style post on X, and several 5ch commenters speculated it was staged for publicity. This kind of self-deprecating joke has become a common promotional tactic in recent years, aimed at generating goodwill rather than backlash, and using it at in-store events isn’t unusual. Meanwhile, some replies made baseless claims about her body type or career history, but since these can’t be verified, this article does not cover them.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Gravure idol looks so different from her promo photo that fans don’t recognize her… “I’m the one standing right here” / “There may be some discrepancy between the poster and the real thing…” — claim goes viral“.

  • Nogizaka46, Sakurazaka46, and Hinatazaka46 Announce Joint ‘Sakamichi’ Selection Unit — Inoue Nagi Named Center

    A “Sakamichi Joint Selection” unit gathering selected members from all three groups — Nogizaka46, Sakurazaka46, and Hinatazaka46 — has been announced, with Inoue Nagi chosen as center. On 5ch reaction threads, some users pointed to a past joint project from the Keyakizaka46 era that put Hirate Yurina at center and flopped, while others questioned the criteria used to pick members. Some speculated the move is aimed at securing a slot for the year-end Kohaku Uta Gassen singing contest, and opinions were split over the overall brand strength of the Sakamichi franchise and how far this kind of cross-group project can reach beyond its core fanbase.

    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:00
    They already tried this with Hirate as center back in the day — and it went nowhere.
    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:05
    Well, the whole Akimoto/Sashihara camp is just copying Hello! Project anyway.
    6AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:11
    Starting stuff like this reeks of a franchise on its way out.
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Sakamichi's probably going to flip age brackets with Hello! Project and AKB at this rate.
    12AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:45
    Not just a Sakamichi thing, but doing an 'all-star' thing like this — only people already in that scene even get it. No matter how hyped the village is internally, it has zero pull with the general public.
    13AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:47
    I like Hinatazaka's Shogenji Yoko. Not interested in anyone else.
    14AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:47
    If this lineup went on TV and said 'we're Nogizaka46,' the general public wouldn't even notice lol
    16AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:49
    Shogenji, come join Hello! Project — you're friends with Ebata Hisaki, right?
    18AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:50
    Kind of like the old Sakamichi/AKB thing back in the day, huh.
    19AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:53
    For a group thrown together like this, it's pretty plain — no sparkle to it.
    21AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:59
    Shouldn't they have picked Kanemura over Uemura?
    22AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:01
    Even Nogizaka's image has taken a hit from scandals, so Kohaku looked out of reach — maybe this is a last-ditch move to get them on the show.
    26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:05
    Something felt off about the lineup — turns out Kanemura's not in it.
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:05
    I only really know Nogizaka — isn't the rest kind of weak? The lineup looks way too predictable, like there weren't better picks available.
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:09
    I can only place the ones connected to Juice=Juice members.
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:09
    Don't need Uemura, Ikeda, or Ichinose — the lineup would be cleaner without them.
    42AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:17
    It's pretty pathetic that they can only generate buzz from the setup/gimmick stage instead of the actual performance. I watch Nogizaka too, but it's strictly for the variety segments — that group isn't one you watch for singing and dancing.
    43AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:19
    Yeah, Sakurazaka really is struggling to settle on who'll carry the next generation.
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:27
    I watch all three Sakamichi shows, and Hinatazaka is overwhelmingly the most entertaining — though Nogizaka's overwhelmingly the cutest.
    51AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:31
    Re: #46 Hinatazaka's always been the variety group. Sakurazaka is the gloomiest, most boring as an act — though apparently their own fans rate Sakurazaka as the most fun right now.
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:27
    They're so short on songs to perform at Kohaku that maybe this is how they're forcing their way onto this year's lineup?
    53AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:33
    Re: #47 They'd been stacking up former centers for a while now, so it looks like this Sakamichi selection was decided early this year.
    58AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:35
    The visuals aren't standing out from other groups much anymore — back when Shiraishi Mai and Hashimoto Nanami were around, they really caught your eye.
    69AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:46
    Re: #58 Things were glamorous back when those two were around.
    71AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:48
    Even Maiyan lamented that they don't have a signature song.
    74AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:57
    Re: #71 I'd guess a fair number of people know her as an influencer, at least.
    73AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:56
    There's no way this gets them onto Kohaku in time.
    76AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:57
    Re: #73 Nogizaka's slot is already locked in, so the song barely matters. Sales alone really are huge for them, even if the songs and skills are weak.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    The “Sakamichi Series” is the collective name for three groups — Nogizaka46, Keyakizaka46 (now Sakurazaka46), and Hinatazaka46 — which have historically been produced by the same team, and a joint project centered on Hirate Yurina was also organized back in the Keyakizaka46 era. Regarding the choice of Inoue Nagi as center this time, the thread saw views suggesting it was less about ability and more a “predictable lineup of former centers,” along with speculation that the real aim is securing a slot at the Kohaku Uta Gassen year-end singing contest. It’s worth noting, as a matter of fact, that NHK doesn’t announce Kohaku lineups until December each year, so nothing is confirmed at this point. There was also an exchange over “why Ichinose was picked,” reflecting a long-running point of contention among Sakamichi group fans about selection criteria — though such threads also tend to mix in baseless speculation. Overall, skepticism stood out about how far a cross-group project like this can reach beyond the existing fanbase, with the thread split between voices pointing to a decline in the Sakamichi franchise’s overall pull and those simply intrigued by it as a new attempt.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Nogizaka46, Sakurazaka46, and Hinatazaka46 Announce Joint Sakamichi Selection! Center Is Inoue Nagi.”

  • Rosy Chronicle’s Sluggish Turnout Sparks 5ch Debate — Could Budokan Be Next?

    A casual chat thread on 5ch turned into a full-blown debate over turnout for the Hello! Project group Rosy Chronicle. It started with the claim that “the members don’t sell because they’re short,” but as the discussion went on, it shifted to more concrete territory — the scale of their live house tour, whether a solo Budokan show is realistic, and the fading engagement of “DD” (fans who split their support across multiple groups). Posters also worried that forming a new group would drain resources from existing ones, and no consensus was reached.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:33
    Nothing but short girls
    3AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:35
    Getting worried — they need to hit their stride soon
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:36
    Re: #3
    Probably never gonna happen at this point
    12AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:40
    Then again, they're not really "loli" age anymore, so once it's just a group of regular short girls, even the older guys start losing interest
    13AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:41
    Re: #12
    Yeah, most of the members are already adults now
    25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:46
    Rosy's doing plenty fine already
    CDs are selling steadily, and this fall they managed a live house tour scaled for 10,000+ people
    If they can pull in the DD crowd, they could probably manage a Budokan show at least once
    28AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:47
    Re: #25
    Nah, honestly they can't even pull 5,000
    Unless you count the 2nd-gen members too
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:48
    DD activity is pretty sluggish right now, so it's an uphill battle
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:49
    Re: #29
    The DDs have all flowed over to Juice=Juice, so the other groups are on life support
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:49
    Re: #28
    If they can pull in 6,000 for Budokan that'd look respectable enough, so they're not too far off
    34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:50
    Re: #32
    They might pull it off once, but doing it again would be tough
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:51
    Re: #31
    Not sure if it's overflow hype or a wave of new fans, but groups other than Juice are selling surprisingly well on their fall tours too
    Only Angerme is struggling, and that's just because their venues are too big for them
    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:52
    Re: #35
    The number of tour dates and venue sizes aren't the same, so is that really a fair comparison?
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:52
    Re: #34
    Even their senpai group Ocha Norma has only done it once
    Still, if you can headline Budokan solo even one time, that's a pretty solid idol career
    43AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:53
    Re: #38
    If that's the goal, adding new members is a must
    44AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:54
    Re: #43
    Personally I think they could reach Budokan even without adding members, but it might be tough
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:56
    Re: #44
    Soma needs to have a breakout moment like Tsutsui did
    65AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:03
    Given how many trainees there are right now, I wonder if a new unit is coming
    69AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:05
    Re: #65
    This year there's barely any room to graduate — maybe just into Angerme and Beyooooonds — yet there are so many trainees
    I think a trainee unit is coming sooner or later
    70AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:05
    Re: #65
    There are already 7 groups though
    73AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:06
    Country Musume was popular even with short members, though
    77AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:07
    Re: #73
    That's because their faces were cute
    76AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:07
    Who's next to disband after Country Musume and Kobushi Factory?
    79AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:07
    Re: #76
    People said it'd be Beyooooonds, but they turned into a phoenix (bounced back from near-crisis), so never mind
    78AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:07
    If activity levels like Rosy's are good enough, they could form a lot more groups
    Even if they can't easily make another group on the level of Morning Musume, Angerme, or Juice=Juice — ones that can fill big venues without members graduating out
    81AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:08
    Re: #78
    This crappy agency spreads the cute girls too thin across groups, it's dumb
    87AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:10
    Re: #81
    Well, that's true, but
    given how many trainees there are now, if they don't form a new group to open up more graduation slots, the trainees' parents are gonna be furious
    116AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:19
    Re: #81 Berryz Koubou and S/mileage were built by handpicking elite members, but
    Morning Musume and Cute, made up of the "leftovers," ended up selling better
    So they tried making Rosy out of leftovers too
    84AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:09
    If they form a new group, Rosy's the one who'll take the biggest hit
    And their numbers are already tough as it is
    89AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:11
    Re: #84
    If they let Rosy do Budokan next year, wouldn't that be the trigger for forming a new trainee unit?
    90AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:11
    Re: #87
    If they play it safe, they'll probably fade though
    They don't even have a manager, do they
    95AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:13
    Re: #90
    They can just hire a manager
    Both with Ocha Norma and with Rosy, people said it was impossible due to lack of resources, but a new group happened anyway both times — I think it'll go the same way again
    93AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:12
    Re: #89
    No way, absolutely not
    Rosy's turnout is way too weak for that
    105AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:15
    Re: #93
    If it looks like the venue's going to be half-empty, I think DDs and other fans will step in to help fill it out
    As long as no member has a scandal
    94AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:12
    With a range of looks and personalities like Berryz Koubou had, there's usually someone who's your type
    But when it's all short girls, the entry point is narrow, so the fanbase doesn't grow
    101AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:14
    Re: #95
    Fan resources (time and money) are already stretched pretty thin, I'd think
    109AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:17
    Re: #101
    Another group as popular as Morning Musume or Juice=Juice is impossible, but
    if Rosy-level popularity is good enough, there's still room
    107AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:16
    Re: #105
    That's exactly why the "mutual aid circle" (fans propping up weaker groups out of loyalty to the agency) doesn't really exist in Hello! Project anymore
    112AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:18
    Re: #107
    They filled Yokohama Arena for Beyooooonds' Takase's graduation, so once is definitely doable
    There's still life in them yet
    115AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:18
    At that recent festival with both Angerme and Beyooooonds, the Beyooooonds fans apparently skipped watching Angerme and just went straight home — DD spirit among Hello! Project fans is pretty thin these days
    117AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:20
    Re: #115
    Yeah, fans have gotten colder
    You can tell just from watching the calls at Hello! Con

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Rosy Chronicle is a relatively new Hello! Project group, and the thread discussed audience turnout and the feasibility of a Budokan concert using concrete figures. “DD” is Hello! Project slang for fans who support multiple groups at once rather than committing to just one, and several posters noted that this kind of cross-group support has noticeably weakened lately. On the other hand, the claim that “Morning Musume and Cute sold well as groups made of ‘leftover’ members, so Rosy was formed from leftovers too” reflects one poster’s personal opinion about the group’s origins, not an officially confirmed fact — worth noting. Opinions on a Budokan show were split as well, with some saying “pulling it off even once would be a solid achievement for an idol” and others saying “turnout-wise, it’s a stretch,” and the thread reached no clear conclusion.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Is Rosy Chronicle not selling because the members are short?“

  • 5ch Thread Ranks the Most Entertaining Hello! Project Scandals Ever — “That’s Talent, Idiot”

    A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board asking posters to name “the most entertaining Hello! Project scandal of all time” took off. Names piled up one after another — Hitomi Yoshizawa’s drunk hit-and-run, Mari Yaguchi’s exposed romance, Maki Goto’s “shotgun marriage” reports — some dating back nearly 20 years. Several posters noted that how shocking an incident was and how funny it is as a story don’t always line up, producing lines like “Yoshizawa’s got the impact, but Oda’s the funny one.” The thread ranged across generations of Hello! Project groups, pulling out anecdotes only longtime fans would remember.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:29
    What
    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:30
    The lotion — the kind you could actually take photos of
    3AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:31
    It turned into 'Riko'
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:31
    Re: #3
    Could you please stop looking at Riko-Riko like that
    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:31
    The drunk-driving hit-and-run
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:32
    86 km/h in a zone she was 26 over the limit — 8626, which happens to read as 'Ha-Ro-Pu-Ro' (Hello Pro) in Japanese number wordplay (goroawase). Hitomi Yoshizawa really is a genius.
    https://kako.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1537954318/
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:32
    Nono-tan's shotgun marriage
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:32
    What even was that bizarre room and the lotion?
    18Boku Nee NeeSep 24, 2026 19:37
    The incident where Yagu hid naked in a closet
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:37
    The Berryz Koubou flag theft
    21AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    The idols' drinking party was at Torikizoku (a cheap yakitori chain)
    22AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    Turns out Ogawa Makocchan had gotten married, had a kid, and divorced
    23AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    Ogawa has a 10-year-old kid
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    Yeah, that yakiniku post had a ton of 'nioawase' hint-puzzle elements to it
    25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    Not really a scandal, but it was fun when Sayashi dissed Sato on the Can Jam radio show and the board turned into a slugfest between Sayashi fans and Sato fans
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:39
    Making out on the street
    28AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:39
    A host-club debt collector showed up at the agency
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:41
    Yoshizawa's got the impact, but Oda's the funny one
    30AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:41
    The closet
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:41
    She's my angel!
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:41
    Yanamin's phone incident
    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:42
    She publicly called out a junior member and ended up leaking her own kink instead
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:42
    Yaguchi's old Mixi account got dug up (Mixi being an early-2000s Japanese social network)
    40AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:42
    Former Juice=Juice member Tomoko Kanazawa — #IchaSho
    41AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:43
    Nucchi was intense
    42AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:44
    The whole Osaka-to-Tokyo trip, the senior member sitting next to her wouldn't say a single word to her
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:45
    That's talent, you idiot
    48AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:45
    Xiao Xiao
    49AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:46
    The one with zero motivation
    51AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:46
    It was fun back when Fuujin Raijin and Ageha were still around
    Back when this board never slept
    56AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:49
    More than getting scooped by a tabloid, it was funnier watching a stalker drip-feed the voyeur photos bit by bit
    58AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:57
    Miyabi-chan's make-out scandal

    Back then I was so shocked my legs were literally shaking
    59Boku Nee NeeSep 24, 2026 19:57
    The make-out scandal really blew up.
    At the venue itself everyone was saying 'maybe I've got a chance too.'
    On this board I was on some junky new Windows Vista PC that ran like garbage, typing back and forth, mashing keys at everyone, until my fingernail got wedged between two keys and snapped lol

    Background and Talking Points on This Topic

    Hello! Project is an idol-development project launched in 1998, led by flagship group Morning Musume. Given its long history, the list of “scandals” involving current and former members — including those who’ve left or graduated — has piled up considerably over the years. Of the incidents raised in this thread, Hitomi Yoshizawa’s drunk-driving hit-and-run actually resulted in a criminal conviction in 2019, which makes it categorically different from tabloid-reported romance stories like Maki Goto’s “shotgun marriage” or Mari Yaguchi’s exposed relationship. Posters in the thread drew a distinction between an incident’s real-world “impact” and its entertainment value as an anecdote — meaning a serious criminal case and a lighthearted rumor can end up sitting side by side in the same list, which is easy for readers to conflate if they’re not careful. The term “nioawase” (匂わせ, literally “hinting”), which comes up in the thread, is industry slang for when an idol posts something on social media that subtly implies they’re in a relationship — a lot of this kind of gossip grows out of speculation whose accuracy is never confirmed. Readers unfamiliar with this context may find it hard to tell reported fact apart from simple fan rumor.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “The Most Entertaining Hello Pro Scandal Ever, lolololololololololololol.”

  • Hello! Project Frustrations Boil Over: 5ch Asks, “How Much Longer Is This Juice=Juice Favoritism Going to Continue?”

    A thread titled “Let’s Just Air All Our Grievances About the Hello! Project Empire” went up on 5ch, drawing a flood of complaints about Hello! Project’s management and how its groups are run. The gripes ranged widely — a sluggish release schedule, criticism of the Nishiguchi regime, resentment that Juice=Juice alone gets preferential treatment, and claims that the agency is turning a blind eye to slander aimed at members. At the same time, more pragmatic voices pointed out that “Juice=Juice is the group carrying the company financially, so shutting it down or disbanding it just isn’t realistic,” exposing the gap in the thread between idealistic wishes and the harsh realities of running the business.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:38
    Whatever, I don't even care anymore
    3AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:39
    If they want to call themselves an empire, shouldn't they be pushing Juice=Juice even further to the top?
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:43
    Just do something about that release schedule already
    6AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:43
    Forget the details
    Just shut the company down
    Or disband Hello! Project and every group and get out of the idol business entirely
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:44
    Re: #6
    Juice=Juice would get snapped up elsewhere, so disbanding everything isn't happening
    12AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:47
    Re: #7
    Fine then, just keep Juice=Juice alive and scrap the rest
    13AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:47
    Re: #7
    Re: #12
    Inoue Rein and Kudo Yume both have a ticking time bomb — let's just hope it doesn't go off
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:44
    Over-the-top slander is basically being allowed to slide
    The agency needs to actually protect its members
    9AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:45
    This is less a complaint and more a wish, but when I think Hello! Project, I still think of Sensei Sugai Hidenori! So
    I want Sugai Hidenori-sensei's passion drilled into every single Hello! Project member, more and more!
    I want them to take over the idol world with all-out performances fueled by Sugai Hidenori-sensei's soul!
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:46
    The moment they swept this under the rug, they proved they're a bunch of garbage
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:47
    Re: #10
    That's obviously because it's an order from Nishiguchi
    And in the end they just dumped all the blame on Kishimoto over something from her private life
    14AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:48
    A lot of the younger Hello! Project members these days don't show much emotion
    but it's totally fine to cry and let your feelings show, the good and the bad alike
    15AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:48
    Online slander needs to be dealt with way more strictly
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:51
    Re: #15
    Because the agency's the one doing it
    17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:48
    Re: #13
    Hello! Project is a clean group, certified by "Desudoru" (an obscure bit of fan slang, meaning unclear)
    18AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:49
    There's no need to copy other idol acts like Korean K-pop, Kawaii Lab groups, or the Akimoto Yasushi/AKB48-family groups
    The moment you start ripping off or imitating others, you've already lost
    I want Hello! Project to keep showing the pride and tradition that belong only to the Hello! Project empire
    19AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:50
    Re: #13
    I'm pro-disbanding every group, so I couldn't care less what happens to the members
    21AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:51
    For now, just throw the whole company's weight behind Rosy
    Because besides Juice=Juice, Rosy is the only one left with any real potential
    23AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:52
    Re: #22
    Then just go bankrupt already
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:55
    Re: #23
    Can't — Juice=Juice is the one bringing in the money
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:53
    I want them to make more hit songs like "Moremi"
    25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:53
    For starters, this agency has no hope of turning around unless they oust Nishiguchi Takeshi and his cronies
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:54
    I want them to fire any no-name composer who can't write a single hit song like "Moremi"
    Even if that means ruthlessly cutting loose Tsunku♂ himself, the creator-god of Hello! Project, so be it
    28AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:55
    You guys are treating me like I'm some kind of certified lunatic, aren't you
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:55
    Re: #28
    Of course we are, Yousuke
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:56
    Re: #28
    Wait, was that not the case?
    34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:59
    Every group needs to:
    • Write a hit song
    • Go viral
    • Not cause a scandal
    36AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:00
    Re: #34
    Not happening
    Not happening
    Not happening
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:59
    They practice way too little
    Make them all live in a dorm like in Korea and train morning to night, every single day

    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:00
    Re: #35
    That's way less practice than some random junior high girls' basketball team lol
    No way that counts as "professional"
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:00
    Re: #35
    Why don't you go to Korea then
    45AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:17
    Morning Musume is Hello! Project's flagship, so the pecking order needs to be properly respected
    Juice=Juice gets way too many TV appearances — spread it evenly across every group
    50AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:19
    Re: #45
    To shut people like this up, I want them to push Juice=Juice even harder and make the gap with everyone else even more overwhelming
    49AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:19
    How much longer is this Juice=Juice favoritism going to go on
    I'm already sick of it
    Just end it already
    55AnonymousSep 24, 2026 12:22
    Re: #49
    Because there's demand for it

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Hello! Project is a long-running idol-training organization overseeing multiple groups, and in recent years Juice=Juice’s outsized popularity and workload have made the exposure gap with other groups a recurring talking point. The thread split over whether Juice=Juice should get even more preferential treatment or be reined in as “overexposed favoritism,” with voices defending the favoritism on financial grounds sitting alongside backlash from people simply tired of the imbalance. Some also questioned the agency’s handling of online slander, though the thread never specified which posts or incidents were being referenced, so those claims should be treated as unverified. Fans threw around extreme words like “disband” and “go bankrupt,” but there was also a shared understanding that Juice=Juice’s earnings are what’s propping up the company — making this thread less a pure venting session than a glimpse into fans’ grasp of the agency’s business realities.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Let’s Just Air All Our Grievances About the Hello! Project Empire.”

  • Juice=Juice’s TikTok Likes Now Routinely Top Tens of Thousands — Ranks 9th Among Female Idols

    Juice=Juice’s TikTok posts have started consistently pulling in tens of thousands of likes, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. One thread floated the standard that “going viral” means hitting 100,000 likes, and posted a ranking of female idols by TikTok likes — with NiziU in 1st, =LOVE in 2nd, and iLiFE in 3rd, Juice=Juice came in 9th. Posters also noted that collaboration videos with outside talent have been steadily gaining views, sparking a broader debate about how these numbers are climbing.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:51
    On the flip side, the pressure of NOT racking up "10k+ likes" (man-baz, lit. "10,000-buzz") must be brutal.
    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:53
    Huh
    Where would that rank among idol groups?
    3AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:56
    Going viral starts at 100,000 likes.
    9AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:59
    Re: #3
    Ah, I see

    12AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:02
    Re: #9
    So they started covering up their underwear now?
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:57
    A mere tens of thousands of likes on TikTok doesn't count as going viral.
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:57
    Re: #5
    So basically AKB's Ito has never gone viral on TikTok.
    6AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:57
    The group as a whole ("box") is getting more buzz than Moremi is solo now, so why aren't they going on the offensive with a ton of new song releases?
    This lousy agency.
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 10:58
    Re: #6
    Probably because they have no intention of scheduling tours that reflect actual popularity or drawing power. No matter how popular they get, it just goes to waste that way.
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:01
    Re: #8
    They should just hand the idol business over to someone who actually wants to run it.
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:01
    Re: #10
    Then again, there's no way Up-Front could make money without Juice=Juice either.
    14AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:02
    Re: #12
    If they're going viral even after covering up, then it wasn't the underwear driving the buzz after all, huh?
    15AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:03
    Moremi x Nia is always solid.
    18AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:04
    Re: #15
    Actually, for "Kurakura" the top likes go to Kawashima, so Hayashi isn't all-powerful — her average's high, though.
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:08
    Seeing how well the Ishiyama/Endo dance cover of the Noimy song is doing in views, I think they should do more covers of other groups' songs.
    21AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:09
    Re: #20
    They do that regularly, but their own songs get more traction.
    22AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:10
    Juice is selling just fine, thank you.
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:11
    Re: #22
    No, they're not.
    26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:12
    Everyone's got their own genre that drives likes or views.
    If you don't fit into any of those, I think you should be a bit more proactive about trying new things.
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:13
    Re: #26
    Videos that get views but no likes are just ones the algorithm pushed out — nothing more.
    28AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:14
    The funny part is the collab partner getting the most traction is Yugeta.
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:15
    Re: #28
    But yeah, likes on collabs with outside talent keep climbing steadily, so they might overtake it eventually.
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:16
    Shake your butt and you can rack up 10k+ likes easy, huh.
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:17
    Re: #31
    Such a waste that they got embarrassed and deleted it, even though it's official choreography.
    36AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:21
    Angerme only went viral because of Juice.
    Show some gratitude.
    39AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:21
    Re: #36
    It's the other way around.
    Thanks to Angerme.
    49AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:27
    Re: #36
    When did Angerme ever go viral?
    44AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:24
    Female idols only
    TikTok likes ranking
    1st: NiziU
    2nd: =LOVE
    3rd: iLiFE
    4th: Risa Furusawa (CUTIE STREET)
    5th: Sakurazaka46
    6th: Ayano Masuda (CUTIE STREET)
    7th: Kana Itakura (CUTIE STREET)
    8th: Karen Matsumoto (FRUITS ZIPPER)
    9th: Juice=Juice
    10th: Airi Suzuki
    11th: Amane Tsukiashi (FRUITS ZIPPER)
    12th: Yui Sakurai (FRUITS ZIPPER)
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:25
    Re: #44
    So Kawa Labo does better when she does it freely on her own?
    59AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:32
    Re: #44
    Who even compiled this?
    61AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:34
    Re: #44
    What about =LOVE members' personal accounts?
    56AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:31
    They'll smash the like button but won't buy the CD.
    57AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:31
    Re: #56
    They just didn't buy multiples for individual voting — it still sold steadily over time and beat "LOVE Machine"'s record for cumulative weeks on the charts.
    67AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:40
    Will "Juice" keep pulling off this reveal-the-trick magic act on us forever?
    68AnonymousSep 24, 2026 11:41
    Re: #67
    That's a contradiction in terms.

    Background and Points of Debate

    There’s no official definition of “going viral” on TikTok, and the “100,000 likes” benchmark raised in the thread is just one participant’s gut feeling. The TikTok-likes ranking of female idols is likewise an unofficial tally with no stated source or methodology — worth noting these aren’t figures released by any agency or the idols themselves. Suspicions about inflated follower or view counts also come up regularly in idol fan circles, though unsubstantiated claims tend to get mixed in with legitimate observations on this topic. This thread also included some practical trend analysis — for instance, the observation that collaboration videos with outside talent tend to perform better than dance-cover videos of the group’s own songs — going beyond a simple numbers comparison into questions of social media strategy.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Urgent] Juice=Juice’s TikTok likes going viral at the 10,000+ level is now an everyday thing wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww“.

  • Hasunosora’s 2nd Album Sells 9,265 Copies in Week One — 5ch: “That’s Only a 3-Day Count”

    A thread on 5ch’s Love Live! board reported that the 2nd special album from Hasunosora Girls’ School Idol Club, “Oideyo! Ishikawa Dai-Kanko II” (Come On Over! Ishikawa Grand Tour II), sold 9,265 copies in its opening tally. Since this comparison pits two mini-albums that both come bundled with serial codes, debate over how to read the numbers dragged on, with some pointing out that this figure covers only the first three days after release, and that whether a release includes event-attendance or meet-and-greet perks affects sales figures. Opinions were split on whether a straight comparison with other groups’ releases even makes sense. Posters also weighed in on whether they’d actually travel to Ishikawa Prefecture for the related event, and some admitted to switching which project they support.

    1AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:05
    Ah…
    3AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:33
    Hyper Glowing: 20,089

    Yep, that settles it
    4AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:34
    This round is mini-album vs. mini-album, both with serial codes bundled in, so no complaints allowed.
    Not that Nijigasaki ("Niji"), which moved just 880 without even a serial code, had any grounds to complain in the first place.
    5AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:35
    Even resorting to graduation marketing, Hasunosora ("Ren") has fallen this far, lololol
    Sounds like its fans are drifting over to "Ikizu-Live" too (a mocking nickname for Liella, punning on "ikizurai" — hard to live) — dead franchise walking.
    6AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:38
    I'm not buying the faithful's excuse that it released on the 21st.
    As long as Oricon's weekly ranking tags it "NEW," that's what counts as the first-week number, end of story.
    7AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:39
    Everyone's buying multiples and this is still all it adds up to?
    9AnonymousSep 23, 2026 18:24
    Re: #7
    Well, this isn't the graduation-concert one.
    The real test is the BD dropping tomorrow — if that doesn't open around 20k…
    8AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:41
    Going forward there'll probably be more people running "main: Liella, side: Ikizu-Live" while still keeping up with Aqours too.
    10AnonymousSep 23, 2026 18:28
    Liella's numbers are just padded out by meet-and-greet tickets.
    11AnonymousSep 23, 2026 18:32
    It comes bundled with a meet-and-greet ticket and an application voucher for Love Live Fes 2.
    12AnonymousSep 23, 2026 18:41
    This is only a 3-day tally to begin with, you know.
    14AnonymousSep 23, 2026 18:53
    There's a predecessor that only did 880 copies, lol
    15AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:11
    Ishikawa Day 1 was basically a lock too, with everyone stacking 2-3 copies each.
    16AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:15
    Serial-code releases naturally rack up most of their sales in the first 2-3 days anyway.
    17AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:30
    Sorry,
    I'm a Hasunosora believer, but I switched over with Tori's 2nd album, lol
    These girls don't graduate no matter how much you support them.
    18AnonymousSep 23, 2026 21:54
    By the way, are you all actually going all the way out to Ishikawa Prefecture?
    If you're not planning to go, the serial code is meaningless anyway.
    19AnonymousSep 23, 2026 22:50
    There are probably a lot of people thinking "well, Hanamiya's not even in it…"
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 02:38
    Star (Liella) >>>> Lotus (Hasunosora) >>>>>>>> Rainbow (Nijigasaki) — ranking settled.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The figures that circulate as “first-week sales” are preliminary numbers from Oricon’s count, often covering only the first few days after release, and serve as no more than a rough gauge ahead of the official weekly ranking. As pointed out in the thread itself, this figure of 9,265 copies covers just the first three days after release, and since the presence of a serial code or an event/meet-and-greet application voucher greatly changes people’s motivation to buy a CD, it’s inherently difficult to compare works with different bundled bonuses on raw unit counts alone. Hasunosora, Liella, and Nijigasaki are all separate projects running in parallel within the same “Love Live!” franchise, so this is less a rivalry between real-world groups and more a recurring back-and-forth born from fans supporting different projects. Rankings tend to get argued purely from the numbers, but they need to be read with an eye to differences in tally periods and bundled bonuses.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Hasunosora Girls’ School Idol Club 2nd SPECIAL Album “Oideyo! Ishikawa Dai-Kanko II” — 9,265 Copies.”

  • Nikkei Entertainment: ‘Juice=Juice’s Fanbase Is 46,000 Strong, Average Age 37, 39% Male / 61% Female’

    In its “Oshi Katsu” (fan-support culture) feature in the October 2026 issue, Nikkei Entertainment presented fan data for Juice=Juice: roughly 46,000 fans, an average age of 37, and a gender split of 39% male to 61% female. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, these numbers touched off comparisons with other groups like Nogizaka46 (average age 40.2) and AKB48 (average age 42), along with threads questioning the survey methodology and expressing surprise at how the once male-dominated fanbase has shifted toward women in recent years.

    1AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:10
    @
    Excerpted female-idol data from Nikkei Entertainment! October 2026 issue's "Oshi Katsu" feature (some figures are visual estimates from the Oshi Katsu Map)
    3AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:12
    521 Anonymous… 2026/09/23 (Wed) 16:54:27.24 0
    >> 520
    Not sure what metric they used, but Juice=Juice definitely draws bigger crowds than CANDY TUNE, the group ranked one spot above them.
    5AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:12
    Re: #4
    Heard that show's having a rough time editing after a timelesz member got arrested.
    6AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:13
    Re: #1
    A "visual estimate"? Did they hire the Wild Bird Society to headcount or something? (a bird-watching group famous for eyeballing flock sizes)
    7AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:13
    Only that old-timer known as "Asahi Net Grandpa" would start a thread over a Nikkei Entertainment article. (a regular known for still using the old-school Asahi Net ISP)
    8AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:17
    Re: #1
    Too unpopular — no way Juice=Juice is making Kohaku. (NHK's New Year's Eve music special)
    10AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:19
    Re: #8
    Hinatazaka, ranked #2, isn't making it either.
    9AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:18
    Angerme already proved that female fans bail once the boom ends.
    11AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:19
    Re: #1
    Proof that iLiFE! >>> Juice=Juice.
    13AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:20
    Re: #11
    Sounds like iLiFE! didn't really click with the LuckyFes crowd.
    14AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:20
    Below AKB, huh.
    15AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:20
    Re: #14
    If AKB really had this many otaku, they'd easily fill K Arena all the way up to level 7.
    19AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:24
    Crazy — the male ratio was over 80% just a year ago.
    20AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:25
    AKB's come full circle and is picking up new otaku again.
    27AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:26
    Re: #20
    If they're really gaining fans, their arena concerts would be selling out, wouldn't they?
    21AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:25
    Sad that none of the Sakamichi groups are appearing on tonight's Uta no Kanshasai broadcast on NTV
    https://t
    alk.jp/boards/nogizaka/1790134494
    28AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:27
    Re: #21
    Even =LOVE, the top group among female idol fans, isn't on it.
    25AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:26
    That's probably because they're even counting the broke, stay-at-home types who don't really "oshi katsu" at all.
    26AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:26
    If AKB really had this many otaku, filling K Arena would be a breeze.
    30AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:28
    Juice is playing a show in Kyoto anyway, so they couldn't have been on it regardless.
    33AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:31
    Juice=Juice's venue
    Seriously packed with young women







    36AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:36
    Are you watching, Chono-san? (referencing pro wrestler Masahiro Chono, known for joking about the group's older fanbase)
    55AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:52
    Re: #36
    Back when Chono pointed it out, the age range really was high.
    Starting around 2016-2017, both the release events and the big venues
    skewed younger, and female fans increased too.
    39AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:45
    Re: #1
    Nogizaka fans averaging 40.2 years old
    AKB48 fans averaging 42
    that's pretty wild lol
    I thought Nogizaka's fanbase was younger…
    41AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:46
    Re: #39
    Young otaku find groups where you feel like you need to "study up" on the history intimidating — too high a barrier to get into.
    40AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:46
    Candidates for the first half of this year's female idol Kohaku lineup

    Sony
    Nogizaka46
    =LOVE
    iLiFE!

    Kawaii Lab
    FRUITS ZIPPER
    CUTIE STREET

    K-pop
    ILLIT

    Up-Front
    Juice=Juice

    Unless you're an idiot, it's obvious which one of these gets cut lol
    Also no Stardust idols in the mix — my guess is they're focusing on male acts this year.
    46AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:48
    The count probably shifts a lot depending on whether you're tallying casual fans or core fans.
    Quantifying fan numbers with any real precision is tough.
    50AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:50
    iLiFE!'s female ratio is definitely fake!
    youtu.be/_7ev4WYlpKs
    The live footage is nothing but stinky-looking dudes.
    54AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:52
    So they've climbed within sight of AKB now, huh.
    64AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:58
    Yasushi Akimoto really gets the otaku hierarchy — he's writing lyrics aimed squarely at older, down-on-their-luck men. ("weak men," a slang term for socially disadvantaged men)
    72AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:03
    It's kind of moving to see Juice's name come up here at all.
    Unthinkable a year ago.
    Hello! Project used to be completely off the radar for every media outlet's stats.
    79AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:06
    Juice has been targeting women in their 30s for ages, and it looks like that's exactly who showed up.
    83AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:08
    This is gonna make some other fandoms genuinely mad — average age in the 40s and nearly 80% male.
    98AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:14
    Re: #83
    High schoolers and college kids have been flocking to Kawaii Lab instead of the Sakamichi groups for about three years now.
    Meanwhile fans in their late 20s/early 30s drop out over marriage or just losing interest, so the Sakamichi fanbase keeps getting older.
    84AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:10
    Saw Hinatazaka at IRC and it was seriously nothing but creepy otaku.
    Female fans were just a handful here and there.
    88AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:11
    Who cares about the age range, honestly?
    If the group keeps going long enough, today's young fans will just get older too.
    92AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:12
    Was Juice added to the IRC lineup at the last minute because they were hoping it'd draw in female fans?
    94AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:13
    Re: #92
    Sounds like the acts announced in the second wave barely showed up anyway, so if there's a next time, they should book them in the first wave instead.
    93AnonymousSep 23, 2026 20:12
    Is iLiFE!'s scene really that female-dominated?
    Maybe that's why fans are so forgiving of member scandals.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Nikkei Entertainment’s annual “Oshi Katsu” feature compiles fan data for various idol groups — numbers, average age, gender ratio — with some figures reportedly drawn from event organizers’ reports or visual estimates via the “Oshi Katsu Map.” That drew the usual skepticism about methodology again this time. Juice=Juice was, through around 2016-2017, known for a fanbase that skewed over 80% male and for being singled out by pro wrestler Masahiro Chono for its older-skewing audience; in recent years, though, there’s been a narrative of rising numbers of female and younger fans, and this data seems to bear that out. At the same time, the average ages of other groups like Nogizaka46 and AKB48 were brought up, spinning off into a separate discussion about the aging fanbases of Sakamichi-affiliated and Akimoto-produced groups. It’s worth noting that none of these are officially audited statistics — they’re all estimates from the magazine itself.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Nikkei Entertainment: ‘Juice=Juice’s Fanbase Is 46,000 Strong, Average Age 37, 39% Male / 61% Female’.”

  • Man Hits on Woman at Morning Musume。’26 Venue — 5ch Reacts: ‘Even a Silver Fox Is a No-Go’

    On September 23, at Nippon Gaishi Hall Forest Hall, the venue for a Morning Musume。’26 concert, a female fan in her 20s posted on X (formerly Twitter) that while she was standing alone outside the venue looking at her phone, a gray-haired man in a checked shirt who appeared to be in his 50s or older approached her, saying, “This is a pickup attempt! I thought you were lovely!” The post was picked up by a Hello! Project-related 5ch thread and spread as a cautionary tale for women attending solo — but opinions split, with some defending the man and others questioning the poster herself.

    1AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:20
    @
    Morning Musume。'26 at Nippon Gaishi Hall Forest Hall
    I'm a woman in my 20s — I was outside the venue, holding a parasol, alone on my phone, when a gray-haired man in a checked shirt, 50s or older, came up to me and said, "This is a pickup attempt! I thought you were lovely!" 💦 Ladies attending solo, please be careful. #morningmusume
    3AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:22
    If it were a silver fox, fine, but a creepy old man trying to pick her up is just hilarious
    56AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:39
    Re: #3
    Even a silver fox would be a no-go
    58AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:40
    Re: #3
    Even a silver fox is a no-go
    Being a middle-aged guy at all is the problem
    4AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:22
    @
    To new female Hello! Project fans under 20:

    Only meet up with men when your parents are attending with you, or during big group gatherings.

    One-on-one meetups aren't recommended.

    Trading goods one-on-one isn't recommended either, if you can help it.

    — From a fearless fan in her 30s who's had several newcomers come to her for advice after being pestered by guys on the prowl for dates (deai-chu)
    5AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:23
    If she's gonna get hit on anyway, she'd rather it be some hot young newcomer, right?
    7AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:23
    So this is the plan to scare off the female fans, huh
    8AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:23
    So if he'd been hot, it would've been fine?
    9AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:24
    Don't just casually slip in a "Nacchi" line like that!" (a nod to original member Abe Natsumi's famous "…da na to omotte" catchphrase)
    10AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:24
    You guys throw around "hot guy" so casually, but there really aren't that many of them…
    11AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:24
    The old-guy fans who don't call out female fans for trash-talking the members are true gentlemen
    12AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:25
    There were plenty of that type over by the Village
    13AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:25
    He was probably lying in wait on purpose, but I bet an old man showing up was the last thing she expected lol
    18AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:27
    Bit of an overreaction, no? Getting hit on isn't that big a deal lol
    19AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:28
    If it's outside the venue, wasn't he probably just soliciting for something? Does she really need to call that "getting hit on" just to brag about being popular?
    22AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:29
    At this rate she'll start calling flyer handouts "getting hit on" too lol
    25AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:30
    Does anyone actually meet people at a concert venue?
    26AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:30
    The truly creepy ones talk to you right next to you inside the venue. Outside, it's definitely just some kind of solicitation.
    30AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:31
    You get veteran fans, men and women alike, getting hyped up together with the whole "oh, you're always here too!" regulars' routine — I bet some guys watching that get the wrong idea
    31AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:31
    So how are otaku supposed to meet each other, then?
    42AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:33
    Re: #31
    Go find someone on a dating app
    32AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:31
    Creepy old men like this are probably why Hello! Project isn't popular with young people
    35AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:31
    You guys are overreacting because you're old men too lol
    39AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:32
    "This is a pickup attempt!"

    ↑ Way too creepy…
    41AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:33
    Quoting a famous line and thinking it'll charm her into giving him a shot, what an idiot
    74AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:48
    Oh come on~ weren't you secretly happy about it though
    88AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:51
    Re: #74
    She's obviously happy about it — that's why she's bragging about it in a post
    78AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:48
    He can pull a stunt like this at 50 because he never matured past his teens or twenties mentally. If he had a real job and a family, he wouldn't even think this way.
    84AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:49
    Re: #78
    Same goes for women — if you're normal, you don't get obsessed with idols in the first place
    85AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:49
    Even a silver fox — if a 50-year-old does it, it's creepy
    86AnonymousSep 23, 2026 19:50
    Re: #85
    What, even guys like Sorimachi Takashi or Takenouchi Yutaka don't count?

    Background and Points of Debate

    Not just within Hello! Project, the areas around idol and artist concert venues draw large, unspecified crowds, and warnings aimed at new fans have repeatedly circulated on social media. In this thread too, the debate went beyond simply criticizing the man’s age or looks — commenters split over questions like “would it have been fine if he’d been a good-looking older guy?” and “did the woman who posted about it bear some responsibility herself?” with no consensus reached. Hello! Project’s fanbase spans a wide range of ages and genders, and it’s not unusual for fans who don’t know each other to strike up conversation near a venue, so opinions differ on whether being approached at all is the problem, or how it was done. Worth noting: since this happened outside the venue and wasn’t the kind of incident that would draw police involvement, how much of a safety concern it really represents ultimately comes down to individual perception.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “An old man in his 50s or older hit on a woman in her 20s at a Morning Musume。’26 concert venue lol.”

  • Ito Momoka “Cutest Idol” Debate: AKB48 vs. Hello! Project Compared

    A thread claiming AKB48’s Ito Momoka might be “the cutest idol in the industry right now” popped up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board (the “Ookami” board) and drew a wave of responses. Some posters pushed back, arguing she’s only popular because she’s in AKB48 and wouldn’t get this much attention in a Sakamichi group (the Nogizaka46/Sakurazaka46/Hinatazaka46 family of idol groups), while others compared her looks to Juice=Juice members and past fan favorites using photos. The thread also brought up the story that the wish Ito wrote on a daruma doll was “I hope AKB48 gets to perform at Tokyo Dome,” and the discussion spread into casual chatter involving fans outside the AKB fanbase.

    1AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:01
    Her visuals are just too perfect
    6AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:04
    But you guys only like her because she's in AKB, right?
    If she were in a Sakamichi group, she wouldn't be getting this much attention
    13AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:06
    Re: #6
    Honestly, Japanese people just judge talents and works by what agency or group they belong to — that's why the entertainment industry has gone downhill
    8AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:05
    Watching BEYOOOOONDS at Yokohama Arena made me realize Satoyoshi is the cutest one in Hello! Project right now, but
    it checks out that this girl is cute too since she looks like Satoyoshi
    64AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:27
    Re: #8
    But Satoyoshi has zero popularity even within Hello! Project
    20AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:08
    You can clearly see Satoyoshi and this girl live in completely different worlds
    This girl was born a "heavenly being" (idol slang for someone on an untouchable tier) from the start
    23AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:09
    Re: #20
    She was languishing in Stardust Promotion's actress division though
    21AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:08
    Westerners probably couldn't tell them apart

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnfrUC8bAAAEtsL.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G5uAT-yawAAmAsP.jpg
    41AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:13
    Re: #21
    They look so alike it's like the same person
    30AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:10
    About how the wish Ito Momoka-chan wrote on her daruma doll was "I hope AKB48 gets to perform at Tokyo Dome"

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2069022813990588416/vid/avc1/1280×720/Fwz69dzkOrBVT-0U.mp4
    36AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    Re: #30
    Let's start by filling K-Arena up to level 7 first
    32AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    This is what a beautiful woman's nose looks like

    34AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    Re: #32
    lolololololol
    33AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    Uu-tan

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G9QfaBNa8AAt9El.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQopBQ6aUAA2PTb?format=webp&name=medium
    35AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    She's the greatest talent in AKB48's 20-year history
    54AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:17
    Re: #35
    She's beautiful enough to rank in AKB48's all-time top 10
    She can go toe-to-toe with Kojima Haruna, Mitsumune Kaoru, Takamatsu Eri (Tachibana Risa), Owada Nana, Hiwatashi Yui, Iriyama Anna, Kato Rena, and Ichikawa Miori
    56AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:21
    Re: #54
    The one who made the World's 100 Most Beautiful Faces list was Gyoten
    37AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:11
    There was a period when I thought Uu-tan's nickname
    came from "orangutan,"
    but that's not it, right? It's from her name "Utana," right?
    44AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:14
    Re: #37
    Same deal as Juice=Juice's Endo being called "A-tan" — it's just based on the sound of her name
    42AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:13
    Juice=Juice's top two visuals


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQuZr_YaoAAX0eH.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQuZr_DaUAA3UXH.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQuZr-4bMAAGhTV.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQuZr_BaoAIk7rS.jpg
    46AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:14
    Re: #42
    Even at this level, Juice=Juice members still get work, but in AKB, nobody gives the low-tier members work unless they're one of the "heavenly beings"
    47AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:15
    Well, she's definitely got a power level of at least 530,000 (a Dragon Ball meme about an absurdly high "power level")
    51AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:16
    Re: #47
    So she can pack a solo live show with 530,000 people?
    48AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:15
    Itomomo (Ito Momoka's nickname) is a hybrid of Yumeha and Satoyoshi
    49AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:15
    Itomomo really has exactly the kind of character the public wants from an idol right now
    52AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:16
    Re: #49
    People even know her personality? I've never seen her talked about for anything besides her face
    53AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:16
    She's on TV constantly, though
    55AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:20
    Re: #53
    Is this the "hamburgers and cola are the world's tastiest food" theory?
    Fine, then I guess whichever idol is on TV the most must be the cutest
    59AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:21
    Re: #53
    Unless you're the type who leaves the TV on mindlessly, you only watch the shows your favorite actually appears on
    58AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:21
    Uu-tan back then was better than today's heavily photoshopped Uu-tan
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20190322/21/beyooooonds/69/88/j/o0640085214376978874.jpg
    61AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:25
    The latest Uu-tan
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260919/22/beyooooonds/b1/3f/j/o1080081015823561287.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTErYIx1qiq_4lfGlIKTb4cr1b7bdU7NJQYfIEnqyxd1se2I0iRAxU_gyE&s=10

    I think she's a good-looking woman, but something's missing
    73AnonymousSep 23, 2026 17:31
    You guys are just so bitter and frustrated you've got no choice but to rub one out to ugly girls in your filthy rooms (lol)

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This thread was started on a Hello! Project-focused board (commonly known as the “Ookami” board) that discusses AKB48 member popularity — as the thread itself notes, this reflects the fact that AKB48’s own board has gone fairly quiet, with even things like underground sales discussions losing steam there. As a result, AKB-related topics often end up spilling over into boards where fans of other groups gather. The thread’s main point of disagreement was whether the praise for Ito Momoka comes down to her actual looks or simply to AKB48’s name recognition and group affiliation, with some arguing she wouldn’t get the same treatment in a Sakamichi group. The comparisons drawn with Satoyoshi and Juice=Juice members are also a recurring pattern in 5ch idol debates — how closely looks-based evaluations track with how much exposure and work a group’s members actually get. It’s worth noting that none of this is backed by concrete popularity figures or official agency statements; it’s all subjective opinion from individual posters.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Ito Momoka-chan is seriously the cutest in the idol world right now, isn’t she.”