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  • Living alone on a pension runs ¥29,980 short every month — 5ch: “Guess you don’t need ¥20 million for retirement after all”

    According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications’ household survey, single-person households aged 65 and over with no job bring in ¥131,456 in income but spend ¥161,435, leaving a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980. Pension income alone can’t cover living costs, meaning the gap has to be filled by drawing down savings. The thread kicked off with the question “Would ¥20 million in savings be enough?” and split into two camps — those worried about rising prices and ballooning medical costs, and those arguing that combining welfare benefits with public housing makes it surprisingly manageable — before spiraling into a broader debate about where to live in retirement.

    For single-person households aged 65 and over with no job, income came to ¥131,456 against spending of ¥161,435 — a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980.

    Even living alone, pension income alone doesn’t cover expenses, according to the calculations. The gap has to be made up from savings.

    This article breaks down the household budget for single-person households, the 2026 fiscal year pension amounts, and rough pension guidelines by life course.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    20AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:45
    Could ¥20 million in savings make it work?
    23AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:47
    Re: #20
    Sure, if you're planning to die around 75.
    25AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48
    Re: #20
    At that rate it's a no-go… can't keep up with rising prices.
    27AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48
    Re: #20
    Depends on how much pension you get, whether you own or rent, apartment or house — hard to say. But if you're prepared to pull a solo "Ballad of Narayama" (the old folk-tale about carrying elderly relatives off to die) once you need nursing care, you might not need much at all.
    33AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:54
    Is there actually any relief system for people on low pensions right now?
    If you have zero pension at all, welfare ("namapo," slang for seikatsu hogo/livelihood protection) bails you out completely, and medical care is free too, right?
    So say someone gets only about ¥70k a month from the national pension — can they apply for the difference up to the welfare cap, since ¥70k isn't enough to live on?
    If welfare pays out ¥130k a month, can you just apply for the ¥60k difference between that and your ¥70k pension? No way the ward office approves that.
    Bottom line: people who paid their pension premiums diligently end up worse off than the guys who never paid a dime and are on full welfare.
    48AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:17
    Re: #33
    If your pension isn't enough you can qualify for welfare, but there are restrictions if you have savings, insurance, or own a home. If you're completely broke, you'll get it.
    134AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:19
    Re: #33
    Welfare isn't ¥130k. It can add up to that much if you have dependents, but for a single person it's lower, more like ¥70k I think.
    166AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:34
    Re: #33
    Welfare pays out the difference from your income. If you're already getting a pension, the amount the government has to pay is smaller, so it's easier to get approved.
    64AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:50
    Once your savings run out, just apply for welfare to cover the shortfall right away. That's why the right move is to live somewhere cheap to rent so moving isn't a burden.
    70AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:17
    Re: #64
    If you can even rent one.
    71AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:22
    Re: #70

    Already thought of that — I'm living in a 3DK city-run housing unit for ¥21,000 a month. It's a public housing complex, so the rent's dirt cheap.
    73AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:27
    Re: #71
    City housing really is cheap, huh. Lots of Toyota Alphards in the parking lot though (a pricey minivan — implying not-so-needy residents).
    75AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:34
    Re: #71
    Danchi housing complexes are a dead end once your legs give out. Small is fine — a convenient 1K apartment is the best bet for old age. You want a supermarket, bus, subway, and clinic all within a 5-minute walk.
    77AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:36
    Watching my parents, a single-story house is the way to go. You stop being able to climb stairs.
    84AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:45
    Re: #77
    My parents blew their retirement payout on a fancy second house right when they retired, and within 15 years they couldn't get upstairs anymore. The second floor became storage and a guest room for when the grandkids visited — but now the grandkids don't even come anymore, so it's just turned into dead insulated space. They went with a traditional Japanese-style design, so of course it's full of steps and level changes everywhere. Never bothered making it barrier-free. Once they're on a cane or walker, they're stuck.

    Well, they've got money and stocks so they could just move into a senior care residence (a "sa-ko-jū," service-supported housing for the elderly), but they're so attached to the house who knows what'll happen.
    85AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:45
    Re: #77
    Build a single-story house today and you'll get wrecked by flooding.
    82AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:44
    Re: #75
    If you talk to the housing management center, you can move from an upper floor to a lower floor within the same complex. Though you need a valid reason — like "65 or older with bad legs" lol.
    100AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:57
    Re: #82
    Wow, that's a nice deal.
    108AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:59
    Re: #100
    Only works if there's a vacant unit on a lower floor in the complex. I'm on the 4th floor right now, but it's no big deal — I just think of it as leg training lol.
    88AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:48
    Re: #85
    Just check the hazard map before you build.
    91AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:51
    Re: #88
    Though the trendy "inland flooding" these days doesn't care about hazard maps.
    98AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:55
    Re: #88
    Land in the "safe zone" on hazard maps is pricey~. Gonna build on some unpopular hilltop? How do you even get groceries then? What about landslides? Isn't a two-story house still the safer bet?
    92AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:52
    Re: #89
    It's gotten easier for singles to get in too — at least for an unpopular complex like mine, a 5-story mid-rise with no elevator. Apparently it's been slowly gaining popularity lately, though, as a sleeper pick for dirt-cheap rent since nobody else wants it. And since it's a 3DK, it's cheap but spacious and luxurious lol.
    107AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:59
    Re: #92
    You don't know about that "danchi hell" for old folks — run-down and filthy, unable to leave the room under your own power in old age, relying only on online grocery delivery, can't afford a home helper, too hard to get to the hospital, and the only time you leave the room is when you die? If you don't have a spouse, kids, or volunteers to help you when it counts, you're screwed. And you don't seem like the type to socialize through the neighborhood association anyway.
    113AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:03
    Re: #107
    There's the local elder-care support center, so being single should be fine, no?
    114AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:03
    Re: #107
    I'm not desperate to live long anyway. Not planning to cling to this "hell-sphere — Earth for short" (a pun on 地獄球/jigoku-kyū, "hell ball," sounding like 地球/chikyū, "Earth"). But I'm not about to kill myself for an isekai reincarnation either (the anime trope of dying and being reborn in another world).
    115AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:04
    If a couple retires at 60 with a ¥30 million retirement payout, there's no problem, right?
    119AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:06
    Re: #115
    The wife files for divorce the second the retirement payout lands.
    120AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:07
    Re: #115
    Going by the thread title you'd need ¥2 million a year — isn't that rough?
    157AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:57
    I'm only enrolled in the national pension — how am I supposed to live?
    163AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:23
    Re: #157
    If you're poor, there's only one option: apply for dirt-cheap public housing as early as possible and lock it down. Then the moment your living funds run short, apply for welfare immediately!! If you apply for welfare first and then apply for housing, you risk not making it in time for the move — it ends up taking anywhere from 3 months to half a year no matter what!!
    174AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:22
    You're living too lavishly. ¥20k food, ¥40k housing, ¥20k utilities, ¥20k internet and misc — that's ¥100k, you can live on that. Just deal with illness through insured treatment.
    175AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:25
    Re: #174
    Are you actually living on that?
    178AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:32
    Re: #174
    You need at least ¥30k a month just for booze and cigarettes.
    193AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:14
    If you're ¥30k in the red every month, that's ¥360k a year in the red.
    After 10 years, at 75, you're ¥3.6 million in the red.
    After 20 years, at 85, you're ¥7.2 million in the red.
    After 30 years, at 95, you're ¥10.8 million in the red.
    After 40 years, at 105, you're ¥14.4 million in the red.

    Guess you really don't need ¥20 million for retirement after all.
    195AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:19
    Re: #193
    People who actually need ¥20 million-plus for retirement are basically either renting an expensive private apartment or own their own home, I'd guess.
    218AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:51
    Re: #193
    Get sick and hospitalized and the costs blow up. My mother, over 80, was hospitalized this year — the medical bill came to ¥500k for April/May combined and ¥400k for June, but with the high-cost medical care subsidy it came down to ¥35,000 for April and ¥25,000 for May. Though, well, we're well-off.
    222AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:59
    Re: #221
    Once that money runs dry, next move: apply for welfare (´・ω・`). Already in public housing with dirt-cheap rent at ¥21,000, too old for job openings, no family to rely on — I'll just apply lol.
    223AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:01
    Re: #222
    They'll probably tell you to keep working until 62.
    224AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:03
    Getting into public housing would be great, but the noise and the strict cleaning duty rules seem like a pain.
    226AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:08
    Re: #223
    These days no company easily hires even a 50-year-old. Maybe if you're an immediately-useful, top-tier worker.
    Re: #224
    At least in my complex, the only noise is stuff from outside — nothing major. And the cleaning duty is just once a month, Sunday 10am, about an hour. If that's the price for living on ¥20-something thousand a month, that's lucky lol.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Figures like this — pensions alone not being enough — come from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications’ annual household survey, and follow on from the “¥20 million retirement problem” that made headlines in 2019. This month’s ¥29,980 shortfall is just one example, and it’s easy to misunderstand: the actual amount needed varies enormously depending on whether the household is single, owns or rents, and has medical expenses. Opinions in the thread split between those who think savings plus pension are enough to get by and those who see it as tough once rising prices and nursing-care costs are factored in. Later in the thread, the discussion shifted to concrete ways to cover the shortfall, such as the conditions for receiving welfare benefits or moving to cheaper public housing. Some pointed out that, because welfare is paid out to cover the gap between income and a set benchmark, having a pension already can actually make the application easier to get approved.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Pensions and Household Finances] Single-person households aged 65+ with no job run a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980. Monthly spending is ¥161,435.”

  • Young People Push Back on ‘Experience Over Savings’ Advice: 5ch Says ‘Before Your Senses Dull’

    In response to the well-worn advice that “in your youth, you should prioritize experiences you can only have now over savings and investing,” a thread on 5ch saw young posters push back, arguing that “there’s no spare money to use in the first place.” The median income for full-time employees is said to be 3.84 million yen, translating to roughly 250,000 yen take-home per month — and some calculated that setting aside 100,000 yen a month for savings would leave living standards uncomfortably tight. On the other hand, there were voices favoring experience, arguing that “building earning power matters more for maximizing your assets” and “you won’t be able to enjoy fancy meat or trips abroad once you’re older.” Opinions split over whether to prioritize investing or experiences. The discussion further branched into a debate over whether index investing really never loses principal.

    1AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:41
    No bait intended, but what experiences can you really only have while you're young? I'm 26 now, heading into my late twenties, and this year I actually saved up and went on a proper trip, but other than that I've just been saving and investing like normal. I figured maybe I should spend a bit more, but honestly there's not much I actually want to do — if I bought everything I wanted and did everything I wanted, I feel like I'd be satisfied with something like 200,000 yen.
    4AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:43
    Kind of curious what someone who has nothing they want to do while young and full of energy plans to spend money on once their stamina and motivation decline later in life.
    8AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:44
    Re: #4
    Just living expenses, basically.
    The reason I'm saving is that I'm low-income, so it's to survive in case I get laid off or fall sick.
    Since you can't count on the government or social security, self-defense is the only option.
    13AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:45
    Re: #8
    If you feel like you can't count on the government, then saving money doesn't really mean anything either, does it?
    14AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:46
    Re: #8
    Someone as steady/reliable as you isn't the type who gets fired.
    44AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:03
    Why do they assume that young people building up assets can't have fun/go out and enjoy themselves?
    46AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:06
    Re: #44
    Well, young people themselves keep saying they have no money.
    49AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:07
    Re: #44
    It's because a small minority who go all-in on saving and can't afford to have fun get put on TV and it spreads…
    51AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:07
    Re: #44
    Well, for young people, once you subtract living costs and investment money, there's barely anything left, right?
    72AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:15
    Don't come crying in your old age, okay?

    76AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:17
    Even if you're aiming to maximize your assets, what matters is your earning power.
    Living stingy and stacking up some pathetic little amount every month — the total you'll end up with is limited anyway.
    81AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:19
    Re: #76
    I'm on the bottom rung with a disability hire (developmental disorder, or "hattasho" in net slang), so my earning power is hopeless — I'll just quietly save and invest instead.
    But I think it's fine for able-bodied/neurotypical people to work on building their earning power.
    87AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:20
    Re: #76
    Well, I think it's fine for people whose hobby is watching investing and the economy move, even if their income is low, and who do small-scale investing because of that.

    So I'm not saying it's all wrong.
    If someone genuinely enjoys a steady, frugal, invest-a-little life, they should go for it.
    95AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:22
    Re: #76
    Just putting away 100,000 yen a month is enough to remove hardship in old age. Is that too hard for you?
    98AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:23
    The fund manager behind "Orcan" (the popular all-country index fund): "I want to ease people's money worries and let them live their lives with peace of mind."




    151AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:41
    Re: #98
    This guy's a real looker, huh.
    103AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:25
    Re: #95
    I'm not saying "it's too hard for me" — I'm saying it's too hard for most salaried workers.
    The median income for full-time employees is 3.84 million yen.
    Take-home on a 3.84 million yen salary is about 3.04 million, which works out to roughly 250,000 yen a month.
    Put 100,000 of that into NISA every month and your living standard drops to about welfare level.
    108AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:27
    Re: #103
    Even just 50,000 yen a month is better than not doing it at all.
    It grows with the power of compounding.
    116AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:30
    Re: #103
    Yeah, you definitely can't live extravagantly.
    But as long as you don't overreach, a normal life still seems doable.
    109AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:27
    Re: #95
    You don't actually know if it'll pay off and make old age easier lol.

    You might die tomorrow,
    or the economy could collapse and whatever you invested could go to zero.
    113AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:29
    Re: #109
    All you're doing is saying "might, might."
    That's just a personal opinion piece, not an argument.
    123AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:33
    Re: #109
    If there's ever a crash bad enough to wipe out index fund assets, the world will have moved past capitalism as a system by that point.

    You can imagine dying tomorrow, so why can't you imagine living to 120 thanks to medical advances?
    111AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:28
    Re: #108
    You seem to be under a misunderstanding — there's no such thing as guaranteed "compound interest" in index investing.
    It's just a convenient way of describing past growth rates and reinvested gains.
    If anything, if a panic/crash hits, you could even end up below your principal.
    167AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:48
    Re: #111
    "Losing your principal" is just talking about face value.
    In a world where something that terrifying happens, do you really think the yen or dollar that Japan and the US print will still have value?

    In a world like that, companies making weapons, food, and electricity would obviously hold more value than cash.
    115AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:30
    Sure, even if stock prices get blown away by 30-40% in a panic, they'll recover eventually.
    But whether that recovery takes 10 years or 30 years, only God knows.
    The Nikkei average took 30 years to recover.
    122AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:32
    Re: #115
    People who trash-talk investing always bring up the Nikkei average lol.

    It's not even a market-cap-weighted index, it's a bogus one — and on top of that, it's just a single country's fund lol.
    124AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:33
    Re: #115
    It's fine if you're investing with spare cash, but if you go all-in and suddenly need money, you'll have to sell at a loss.
    You should keep at least 2-3 million yen on hand in cash or a fixed deposit.
    133AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:36
    Using your sensitivity while you have it.
    Things like the raw scenery you see while traveling, but also music and novels (manga these days?), paintings, fashion, and so on.
    I heard this here and there when I was young, from senior coworkers much older than me —
    that your sensitivity dulls with age, and you stop being moved by things as easily.
    But honestly, by your mid-20s I feel like that window's already starting to close.
    142AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #133
    That's a good point too.
    Thanks ("sangatsu").
    162AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:44
    Re: #133
    None of that costs much money anyway.
    137AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:37
    I'm nearly 50 now, but here's a one-point tip: eat the fancy meat while you're young.
    Once you're past 30 it gets rough.
    Past 40 you basically can't eat it anymore.
    Also, everyone talks about overseas travel, but leisure trips in general too — once your kids drag you around and you're forced to go along, it's genuinely rough.
    139AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #137
    Yeah, people always say to eat the fatty stuff while you can.
    Thanks.
    160AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:44
    Re: #137
    I do think I should've traveled abroad more as a student, but I don't find myself thinking "I wish I'd eaten more fatty karubi," so that's not really an experience I feel I'm missing out on.

    Even when you're older, you can still enjoy tongue or fillet cuts just fine.
    141AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #131
    It might not always turn a profit, sure, but according to past data, holding for 15 years straight ("gachi hold") has a zero rate of ending up below principal.

    Can't say for certain what happens going forward, but as long as it beats the bank's garbage interest rates, that's a win, so it's fine either way.
    145AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:39
    Re: #141
    That's just because market conditions over the past 15 years happened to be good.
    If a global depression hits, it'll crash hard, plain and simple.
    173AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:57
    Traveling abroad at 20 versus traveling abroad at 70 — the enjoyment level is totally different.
    At the very least, anything physically active is definitely more fun while you're young.
    174AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:58
    Re: #173
    But isn't there also a chance that older people can enjoy it more because they have more knowledge and cultural background?
    176AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:01
    Re: #173
    That's true for leisure activities, but sightseeing in the West is pretty much the same whether you're young or old, no?
    196AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:09
    Re: #173
    Overseas travel doesn't actually cost that much.
    You should just backpack while you're a student.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    With the spread of the new NISA program, there’s a growing sense that “of course you invest” — yet the thread repeatedly pointed out that the median income for full-time employees is 3.84 million yen (roughly 250,000 yen take-home per month), making it genuinely tough to realistically set aside 100,000 yen a month for investing. The debate broadly split into two points. One was skepticism toward the “experience vs. savings” framing itself, with many arguing that young people simply don’t have much spare money to spend, which is why they’re saving in the first place. The other was over the merits of investing: against the claim that “looking at any 15-year window over the past 15 years, principal has never been lost,” came the counterargument that this is only because recent markets have been favorable — if a panic hits, that’s a different story, and the Nikkei average famously took 30 years to recover. One commonly misunderstood point: the “compounding” talked about in index investing isn’t a guaranteed increase — it’s simply a convenient way of describing the reinvestment of past gains. It’s also worth noting, as background for readers, that the clash between the savings camp and the investing camp starts from a shared problem — low disposable income — well before the question of whether there’s money left over for “experiences” even comes into play.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “A mysterious faction claims ‘In your youth, prioritize experiences you can only have now over savings and investing!’ — really?“.

  • Teikoku Databank Survey: 4,923 Food Items to Rise in Price in September — Triple Last Year’s Count

    On August 31, 2026, Teikoku Databank released survey results showing that 4,923 food and beverage items are scheduled for price hikes in September. The roughly threefold jump compared to the same month last year sparked both shock and backlash on 5channel’s Newsplus (Breaking News+) thread. Some viewed it as cost-push inflation driven by soaring crude oil and raw material prices, while others repeatedly pointed out that corporate internal reserves and shareholder returns are being prioritized over wage increases. Opinions clashed over the Takaichi administration’s performance and who’s to blame for the weak yen, with reactions ranging from economic analysis to political criticism.

    August 31, 2026, 9:06 AM, Kyodo News

    Teikoku Databank announced on the 31st that 4,923 food and beverage items are scheduled for price increases in September, a roughly threefold jump compared to the same month last year.

    Source: 47news.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:35
    About 10 years ago, what people wanted from Abe-chan when he took back power was to "do something about the strong yen and deflation." 👈 THIS
    Even if another 10 years pass without /Newsplus/ posters realizing that "the deflation our country wants to solve is prices going DOWN, and the inflation our country is promoting is prices going UP," that doesn't mean Abe-chan should be the one to take the blame. 🙆 SAFE!
    87AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:06
    Re: #14
    Got you.
    That was my trap set on Re: #9. 🤭
    12AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:36
    That's weird —
    the BOJ says inflation is under 2%.
    24AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:40
    Re: #12
    More like 200%.
    17AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:38
    But the way they're managing gasoline prices is incredible. Compared to the West, why are they so good at this?
    49AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:51
    Re: #17
    > July's crude oil import value rose 87.8% year-on-year to ¥1.4089 trillion.
    > Import volume only rose 5.5%, showing procurement costs are ballooning.
    > With the weak yen too, the customs-cleared yen price per kiloliter rose 78.0% to ¥116,382.

    This is way too scary because they're forcibly holding it down with subsidies.
    There's no way that ballooning cost just disappears conveniently — it comes back around and ultimately becomes a burden on the public.
    51AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:52
    Aeon had that price-hike freeze going (until August 31), so
    I figured a massive wave was coming in September. 😟
    153AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:30
    Re: #51
    Crouch down, then jump! lol
    62AnonymousAug 31, 2026 09:55
    Takaichi herself is saying this still doesn't mean we've beaten deflation.
    74AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:00
    Re: #62
    We really haven't, though.
    Big companies raise prices citing "stock prices," and all that profit goes to shareholders.
    Then retailers can't sell at that price, so they buy high and sell low.
    82AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:06
    There's no reason left to raise prices.
    Cut it out already.
    94AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:10
    Re: #82
    Naphtha prices are about to double.
    There's nothing BUT reasons to raise prices.
    86AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:06
    Takaichi's approval rating is going to crash because of this.
    137AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:25
    Re: #86
    The whole "overseas, dissatisfaction with inflation (rising prices) turns into dissatisfaction with the government 🌏" narrative doesn't apply to our country. 🙅
    Originally, about 10 years ago, what people wanted from Abe-chan when he took back power was to "do something about the strong yen and deflation (falling prices)." 👈 THIS
    And the weak yen and inflation our country has been promoting were welcomed with lines like "the era of the strong yen and deflation was a nightmare 👿" and "we can't go back 🙅 NO WAY" — which fueled Abe-chan's popularity and became the direction our country has kept heading in. 🙆 WELCOME
    99AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:11
    Chocolate's absurdly expensive now, portions are smaller, and they've degraded the quality so much it's basically turned into some chocolate-adjacent substance. It's become a disaster.
    193AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:42
    Re: #99
    The smaller portions and price I can live with, but changing the taste is the part I hate.
    103AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:12
    If food price hikes end up funding raises for people working at food companies, wouldn't that actually be a good thing?
    106AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:14
    Re: #103
    It won't happen.
    Food companies aren't performing well,
    and the money's just flowing overseas because of the weak yen.
    110AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:15
    Re: #103
    It's cost-push inflation, so no, that's not happening.
    Besides, profits belong to shareholders, not employees.
    114AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:17
    Re: #103
    Employee salaries only go up a few percent while companies' net profits balloon like crazy —
    the ones celebrating are the shareholders.
    118AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:18
    Why are all these companies that raised their prices posting record profits?
    136AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:25
    Re: #118
    Internal reserves are over ¥630 trillion — the highest in the world.
    Yet Japanese wage levels are far below Germany's or France's.
    Is Japanese labor productivity really equal to or worse than Germans' or French people's?
    In reality, Japanese labor productivity is nowhere near low.
    The root cause of Japan's decline is stingy, penny-pinching Japanese corporations.
    They're the ones entirely to blame.
    And then there's the LDP taking political donations from those very companies.
    There's no way Japan gets better like this.
    142AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:26
    Re: #118
    For companies, the top priority is to keep posting record profits for their shareholders.
    To pad those headline numbers, they're fudging the books in all sorts of ways.
    139AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:25
    Tax cuts starting in April? That's so late it's laughable.
    143AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:27
    Re: #139
    Everyone around Takaichi is fiercely resisting that,
    and the garbage media is piling on to bash her too.
    In a country like this,
    ordinary Japanese people are basically just slaves.
    141AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:26
    Isn't it about time we finally escape deflation?
    149AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:28
    Even if Takaichi resigns, the weak yen won't recover.
    Everyone's pinning it on her, but still.
    152AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:30
    Re: #149
    That's dead wrong.
    The yen weakened massively just from switching from Ishiba to Takaichi.
    177AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:38
    A bento shop that said it wouldn't lower prices even after the tax cut got bashed for it,
    so companies figure they'd better raise prices now while they still can.
    For Takaichi too, it's probably better to encourage price hikes now
    rather than have opportunistic hikes ride on and dampen her big consumption-tax-cut moment later.
    184AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:40
    Re: #177
    Actually, since the government and the BOJ don't want to "fall back into deflation (falling prices),"
    having "the inflation (rising prices) promoted since Abe-chan's time continue" is a GOOD thing. 👍 OKAY
    186AnonymousAug 31, 2026 10:41
    Re: #177
    Doesn't that just mean the tax cut is pointless, then?

    Background and key points of this topic

    The count of food items with price hikes is a metric Teikoku Databank compiles every month, and September’s figure of 4,923 ranks among the largest of any month this year. The main drivers cited are soaring raw material costs — crude oil and naphtha in particular — along with rising import costs driven by the historically weak yen. The thread had plenty of criticism that these hikes are simply padding corporate profits, but it’s often overlooked that a price increase doesn’t automatically become net profit; many companies are still passing costs on to consumers because they can’t fully absorb the rise in raw material expenses. There’s also a distinction between cost-push and demand-pull inflation behind why rising prices don’t necessarily translate into higher wages — since the former is driven mainly by raw material costs, even when corporate profits rise, that money doesn’t easily become a source for wage increases. Criticism of the administration was prominent too, but it’s worth noting that exchange rates and international commodity markets don’t shift instantly just because the government changes, so drawing a simple cause-and-effect conclusion here may be premature.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Newsplus) thread “[Breaking] September Food Price Hikes Hit About 5,000 Items, Triple Last Year.”

  • New NISA Usage Rate Still Stuck at Just 16.8%

    Data showing that the usage rate for Japan’s new NISA tax-free investment program remains stuck at just 16.8% became a hot topic on 5ch. The thread opened with another figure: against Japan’s population of 106.5 million adults aged 18 and over, the NISA account-opening rate (including accounts with no money invested) stands at 26.5%, suggesting a good number of people opened accounts but never actually started investing. Posters clashed over whether to go all-cash in anticipation of a stock market crash, with some dismissing that view as “the same old prediction people have been making for years.” A recurring back-and-forth also broke out between those arguing “money doesn’t do you any good in old age, spend it while you’re young” and those countering “it’s precisely in old age that having no money is miserable” — neither side managed to settle the debate.

    1AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:28
    Population of Japan: 122.93 million
    18-and-over population: 106.5 million
    NISA account-opening rate (opened but not yet invested): 26.5%
    13AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:32
    70% of Japanese people already see it coming — a US crash wiping out the 'NISA sinners' (a pun: 罪ニー/"sin-y" sounds like NISA)
    18AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:34
    Re: #13
    Just don't put in an amount close to your entire net worth. Factor in the chance of a huge crash that never recovers by raising your ratio of cash and government bonds, but also keep doing NISA in case the crash never comes
    28AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:40
    Re: #13
    If that happens, Japan and the yen are done for too, you know
    27AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:39
    Even pundits are starting to say stocks won't go up anymore
    Nvidia and Kioxia used to skyrocket after earnings, but now their stock prices are sluggish
    You can hear the AI bubble starting to burst
    The weak yen has also peaked here — both Japan and the US will act to stop it going weaker
    Things stay as-is for now, then it swings toward a stronger yen once the government changes
    People who are investing are just going to watch their assets shrink
    In the end, the only future is total victory for Team Cash
    61AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:48
    Re: #27
    The yen's value erodes a bit more every year — you sure that's fine?
    137AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:07
    Re: #27
    People have been saying that same thing for over 30 years
    "Pundits" = amateur horse-racing tipsters
    36AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:42
    If you don't need to do it, then don't, right?
    Better to spend money while you're young
    No point holding onto cash once you're an old geezer
    46AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:44
    Re: #36
    Even saying "while you're young," you should still have money left for investing after having a decent amount of fun
    Are you really so broke you've got nothing left to invest?
    165AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:16
    Re: #36
    Do people who say this even have savings?
    You can't buy anything with that attitude
    41AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:43
    Having money once you're already an old man is pointless
    48AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:44
    Re: #41
    Realistically this isn't even some far-off thing — in just the 2 years and 8 months since new NISA started, investors' assets have already grown massively, and the gap just keeps widening
    49AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:44
    Re: #41
    Having no money once you're an old man is miserable though
    55AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:46


    You've all been doing this since 2024 too, right?
    70AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:50
    Re: #55
    Chicken me was doing this since the old NISA, but got scared and only put in a small amount, so naturally I lost 😢
    Well, guess I can think of it as getting 40,000 yen for free…
    76AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:51
    Re: #70
    So lame lol
    It's more than doubled and you're still complaining lmao
    87AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:53
    Re: #70
    Once NISA gave me a taste of stocks, I completely lost all restraint

    62AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:48
    Re: #52
    It's precisely in old age that having no money is miserable
    Besides, investing in yourself doesn't have to cost much anyway
    Reading barely costs anything with a library or secondhand books, and you can learn PC skills or a language for free on YouTube
    77AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:51
    Re: #62
    Certifications and studying really do have insane cost-performance
    Buy about 20,000 yen worth of textbooks and it'll eat up more of your time than any hobby
    84AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:52
    Re: #62
    People who tell you to "spend money investing in yourself" are usually just trying to funnel you into a seminar
    95AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:54
    Is everyone here all-in on Orukan (short for eMAXIS Slim All Country, a popular all-world index fund)?
    I built this portfolio with my own holding power (nerve not to panic-sell) in mind

    101AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:55
    Re: #95
    Buying bonds normally is one thing, but there's no point buying them inside NISA
    105AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:57
    Re: #95
    Bonds have small unrealized gains, so you barely get to use the tax-free benefit, don't you think?
    113AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:00
    Re: #95
    Don't know your total assets, but the late Yamagen (a well-known Japanese investing commentator) used to say you only need to mix in bonds once you're past 100 million yen
    122AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:02
    Re: #55
    Wow, it's crap because you keep dabbling in individual stocks here and there
    143AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:08
    "Having money once you're an old geezer…" — yeah, I feel that too, but my own grandpa says the exact opposite
    Which one's actually right?
    161AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:14
    Re: #143
    But having it beats not having it by a mile
    Not having to worry about money takes a huge weight off mentally too
    163AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:15
    Re: #143
    I honestly can't picture a scenario where having no money actually works out better for you
    177AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:19
    Re: #143
    If it were guaranteed to keep growing, fine, but there's obviously also a chance you just get older without it growing, or it even shrinks
    The question is whether you'd be okay with that when it happens
    144AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:08
    I don't really understand stocks at all, I'm just doing Orukan through NISA for now
    Is putting in a few tens of thousands of yen every month the normal default?
    I only dump in 500,000 yen when I get my bonus
    152AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:10
    Re: #144
    Whether you keep buying a bit over 40,000 yen every month or dump in 500,000 yen at one specific point, it barely makes a difference either way, so you're fine
    159AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:13
    Re: #144
    Brokerages give a few percent in point rewards if you set up monthly credit-card investing up to 100,000 yen, so a lot of people match their contributions to that
    172AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:18
    Re: #144
    Over the long run it doesn't make much difference
    184AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:20
    Honestly, saving money for old age is pointless
    What are you even going to do with it once you're frail and feeble?
    No matter how much money you have, if you've lost your drive, you'll just die having barely spent any of it
    188AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:21
    Re: #184
    It's precisely because you're frail that you need money
    199AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:23
    Re: #184
    Having money lets you extend your healthy lifespan too
    No money is miserable
    200AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:23
    Re: #184
    Just build up your assets and spend them before you get frail
    And if you're already frail and still have to keep working, that's the truly miserable outcome
    225AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:31
    Me: "I'm on low wages but I'm gonna push myself and invest 200,000 yen a month 💦"
    You guys: "Didn't do a thing and my returns just added a million yen this month, fun lol"
    I can never catch up in my lifetime
    236AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:34
    Re: #225

    Sorry about that
    241AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:35
    Re: #236
    That's not a good thing, you know

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The new NISA is a program launched in 2024 that expanded Japan’s tax-free investment allowance, but the “account-opening rate” (simply having an account) and the “usage rate” (actually putting in money and investing) are two different figures. The 26.5% figure mentioned at the start of the thread appears to be the account-opening rate, while the article’s headline figure of 16.8% is thought to refer to the smaller share of people who are actually continuing to invest — readers can easily be misled if these two numbers get conflated. The thread split over two opposing views: “there’s no point having assets in old age, you should spend while you’re young” versus “it’s precisely in old age that having no assets is miserable,” with both sides drawing significant support and no clear consensus emerging. It’s also worth noting that, since new NISA has been running for less than three years, the anecdotes shared about rising or falling asset values don’t guarantee long-term investment performance.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Bad News] NISA Usage Rate Still Stuck at 16.8%.”

  • Fed Chair Warsh: If Inflation Persists, ‘There’s Work to Be Done’ — Yen Slides Past 160

    Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, speaking at Jackson Hole, hinted at further action if inflation stays elevated. The remarks accelerated yen selling in New York trading on the 28th, pushing the dollar past ¥160 for the first time since the joint Japan-US intervention in late July. On 5ch, users clashed over whether the Bank of Japan should follow with a rate hike of its own, while others countered that a hike is unrealistic given the burden of interest payments on government debt. Opinions were also split on whether the weak yen benefits export industries or simply squeezes households through higher prices — reviving the broader debate over the monetary easing pursued since Abenomics.

    Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh said in a speech on the 28th that if inflation remains elevated, “there is work to be done,” leaving the door open to further interest rate hikes without specifying a direction.

    Following Warsh’s remarks, the yen weakened further against the dollar in New York foreign exchange trading on the 28th, briefly touching ¥160 to the dollar for the first time since the joint Japan-US intervention at the end of July. The rate had been hovering around ¥159.50 before the speech, but growing expectations that the Fed will hike rates soon fueled speculation of a widening Japan-US interest rate gap, triggering yen selling and dollar buying.

    Warsh delivered the speech at the annual economic symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Past Fed chairs have used this venue to signal the future direction of monetary policy, so market watchers were paying close attention.

    Source: asahi.com / Read the original article here

    5AnonymousAug 29, 2026 06:44
    Could the BOJ actually jump straight to a 1.5% rate hike over this?
    249AnonymousAug 29, 2026 14:05
    Re: #5
    More likely they hold steady, or even cut 0.5%.
    250AnonymousAug 29, 2026 14:07
    Re: #5
    No way that's happening (lol)
    11AnonymousAug 29, 2026 06:56
    We're already at 160 yen.
    The joint Japan-US intervention was a total waste.
    Japan needs to fight back with rate hikes and tax cuts, or the country's finished.
    22AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:30
    Re: #11
    The more you cut taxes, the weaker the yen gets.
    28AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:36
    Re: #11
    Wasn't that intervention just to build up funds for a consumption tax cut anyway? The "weak yen is great" line isn't changing.
    19AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:25
    Japan should just hurry up and raise rates already.
    23AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:32
    Re: #19
    Do that and Japan goes bankrupt from bond interest payments.
    27AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:35
    Re: #19
    Japan hasn't met the conditions for a rate hike.
    It's not like the US, where consumer spending is holding up strong.
    41AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:47
    Re: #19
    Consumption tax would go up too — you okay with that?
    55AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:52
    I think people are way too quick to treat the weak yen as evil.
    Back under the DPJ government, the strong yen crushed domestic industry, and manufacturing is still weak because of it.
    With the weak yen now helping export industries like autos grow, the future actually looks a lot brighter.
    57AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:54
    Re: #55
    I've lost count of how many rounds of this we've had, but just like China, weakening your own currency is a beggar-thy-neighbor move that's actually a net plus for the country doing it. "The US won't allow it" is just a bunch of interest groups dressing up their objections in polite language.
    65AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:57
    Re: #55
    It's a problem that you don't get that if export industries were actually growing, the yen wouldn't be this weak in the first place lol. Just reading the comments on Yahoo News shows how off-base the average Japanese person's economic thinking is. Maybe economic education needs a bit of a boost.
    71AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:01
    Re: #55

    They made it so the foreign exchange special account — the government fund earmarked for currency intervention — can no longer even be used for currency intervention.

    What's the legal story with Takaichi and Katayama on the foreign exchange special account, anyway?
    70AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:00
    Right now in the US, prices have risen so much that the public mood has moved past politics entirely.
    Average household income has topped $100,000 (about ¥16 million).
    Service-industry workers earning close to minimum wage are making around $17/hour (about ¥2,700).
    The old middle class can't cover rent and fixed costs anymore, and it's gotten to the point where people are moving out to the countryside or emigrating to Mexico.
    76AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:03
    Re: #70
    And there's washed-up Japan, stuck fighting over food and goods with its garbage currency, the yen, against a country that just got that rich…
    77AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:03
    Re: #70
    Japan's headed there too before long, but unlike the US, the scenario here is that the weak yen makes imports harder, leading to shortages.
    73AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:02
    Back when it was ¥80 to the dollar under the DPJ, that was pure heaven on earth.

    Japanese salaries haven't gone up by a single yen, but

    thanks to the LDP, the real value of that paycheck has been cut in half…
    79AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:04
    Re: #73
    Plenty of companies were destroyed by the strong yen under the DPJ.
    That nightmare must never be repeated.
    99AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:20
    Re: #79
    There was no impact.
    102AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:22
    Re: #79
    Classic double standard — companies going bankrupt from the weak yen under the LDP is somehow not a problem.
    132AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:53
    You can't raise interest rates without first getting the primary balance into surplus.
    And that requires a consumption tax hike.

    Let's all pull together as a nation to stop Japan's economy from collapsing.
    163AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:18
    Re: #132
    Running monetary easing and low rates while also raising taxes seems like it works against itself, I think. Doing two completely opposite economic policies at the same time is like flooring the gas while also slamming the brake — I honestly don't get pursuing such contradictory policies at once. Just my personal take though.
    167AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:23
    Re: #132
    From the 1997 consumption tax hike all the way to the start of Abenomics in 2013, national tax revenue never once increased. Getting the primary balance into surplus through tax hikes is nonsense.
    168AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:24
    Re: #132
    A tax hike won't do anything about the current price increases. The reason is that today's inflation isn't demand outstripping supply — it's the interest rate gap between Japan and the US weakening the yen. If you don't fix the actual cause — the weak yen — and just raise taxes to suppress demand, all that does is make things sell less; the yen stays weak regardless. Since Japan imports its resources and raw materials, as long as the yen stays weak, prices stay high. Raising taxes to curb demand while costs are already inflated by the weak yen would just leave people struggling to get by. Just my personal take though.
    143AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:59
    My prediction: the Fed skips a rate hike in September.
    144AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:00
    Re: #143
    I think so too — though I doubt Japan will move either.
    150AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:04
    Re: #143
    If they don't, long-term Treasury yields are just going to tank. If Warsh gets pegged as all talk, US bonds are headed for real trouble.
    211AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:43
    Japan just keeps getting poorer ever since Abenomics.
    https://imgur.com/Yb9xerW.png
    214AnonymousAug 29, 2026 10:50
    Re: #211
    Flip it around — the yen was overvalued for way too long after the bubble era. Its "true" level is probably more like where it was around 1970. The chart even looks like a head-and-shoulders pattern (a technical chart formation) heading into a crash.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The Fed chair’s remarks came at the annual Jackson Hole conference, a venue long associated with signaling the future direction of monetary policy. What drew particular attention this time was that the yen fell to the ¥160 level for the first time since the joint Japan-US intervention at the end of July — a threshold the market strongly associates with past government/BOJ intervention. On the thread, opinions clashed between those calling for the BOJ to follow with a rate hike of its own and those arguing a hike is untenable given the burden of interest payments on government bonds and the state of the fiscal balance. Views were also split over whether the weak yen is a net positive — some see it as a tailwind for export industries, others see rising import costs squeezing household budgets. Whether the monetary easing since Abenomics is the main driver of the weak yen was also debated, though it’s easy to overlook that the picture is more complex than a simple good-vs-bad framing — compounding factors like the resource price spikes since 2022, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and the widening Japan-US rate gap from the Fed’s rapid hikes all play a role.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Fed Chair: ‘There’s Work to Be Done’ If Inflation Persists — Yen Slides Past 160.”

  • Kioxia to Build New ¥1.8 Trillion Plant in Kitakami, Iwate — 5ch: ‘Heading for an Elpida Repeat?’

    Semiconductor giant Kioxia has announced it will build a new “Third Fabrication Building” at its plant in Kitakami, Iwate Prefecture, in response to surging AI-driven demand. The investment totals roughly ¥1.8 trillion, marking an expansion following the Second Fabrication Building that came online in September 2025, with operations targeted to begin sometime in fiscal 2029. On 5ch’s News Flash+ board, opinions were split: some worried this could be “a repeat of Elpida,” the memory maker that collapsed in 2012, while others argued AI demand will keep growing for years to come — and still others warned of the risk that supply and demand could flip into oversupply.

    Semiconductor giant Kioxia revealed it will build a new “Third Fabrication Building” at its plant in Kitakami, Iwate Prefecture, to meet growing demand driven by the spread of AI. The company says it will invest ¥1.8 trillion.

    Kioxia Holdings President Hiroo Ota met with Prime Minister Takaichi on August 27 and revealed the plan to build a new Third Fabrication Building at the company’s plant in Kitakami.

    It will be built south of the Second Fabrication Building, which came online in September 2025. The investment is expected to total about ¥1.8 trillion, with operations targeted to start sometime during fiscal 2029.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:22
    Heading for an Elpida Repeat
    10AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:22
    Build the plant now and it's still not gonna make it in time lol
    12AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:24
    Re: #8
    Re: #10
    That's the thing — you don't build for what's short right now, you build for what'll be short years from now.
    Elpida just never managed to pull that off.
    276AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:40
    Re: #8
    Ariel detergent
    14AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:25
    Honestly, I wish they'd made this call a year ago.
    If we're unlucky, the AI bubble might already be over by the time it's finished.
    23AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:27
    Re: #14
    The reason memory prices are spiking right now is that makers shut down their memory lines and switched to more profitable products.
    They already know making memory chips from here on out won't pay off.
    329AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:05
    Re: #23
    What's supposedly more profitable than memory, exactly?
    Do you even know what Kioxia makes versus what Samsung makes?
    384AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:22
    Re: #23
    You don't even know what memory chips are, and you're saying this?
    15AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:25
    Akita gets the data centers, Iwate gets Kioxia, huh.
    Tohoku's economy has been looking pretty good lately.
    56AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:39
    Re: #15
    Wages there aren't all that different from elsewhere, though.
    Aichi's genuinely higher, but that's about it.
    117AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:55
    Re: #15
    [Population decline rate, 2020-2025]

    1st: Akita Prefecture — 8.40%
    2nd: Aomori Prefecture — 7.49%
    3rd: Iwate Prefecture — 6.92%
    4th: Yamagata Prefecture — 6.89%
    5th: Kochi Prefecture — 6.75%
    6th: Fukushima Prefecture — 6.30%



    That list is basically all Tohoku — something needs to be done about it.
    142AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:01
    Re: #15
    The Tohoku prefecture actually doing best economically is Aomori.
    19AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:27
    That's a good thing, isn't it
    322AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:01
    Re: #19
    At this rate there's a good chance of a memory oversupply and a price crash.
    Great news if you're a consumer, but for shareholders… not so much.
    333AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:06
    Re: #322
    Yikes, that's rough.
    You should go straight to Kioxia and SanDisk and give them some advice —
    'You idiots! Spend trillions expanding production and it'll crash right away!'
    Then head to America and advise NVIDIA too —
    'Memory's about to crash! Anyone buying it now is a fool!!'
    I bet they'd weep with gratitude: 'Thank you, you're a prophet!'
    336AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:08
    Re: #333
    Consumer-grade NAND and data-center-grade NAND aren't the same thing, though.
    375AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:20
    Re: #336
    They're basically the same.

    21AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:27
    Well, they're probably betting demand won't drop off before 2030.
    Domestic memory production does need to be nurtured.
    This expansion is basically a national policy project at this point.
    51AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:37
    Re: #21
    Well, demand's hard to call, but
    TrendForce's forecast puts the turning point next year.
    Apparently a specific technical factor is going to reshape the supply-demand balance.
    They're saying it could tip into oversupply by the end of next year.
    63AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:41
    Re: #21
    From 1985 through the early '90s, they used to call memory chips "the rice of industry" (a metaphor casting DRAM as an indispensable industrial staple, like rice is Japan's staple food), and Japan held an 80% global share.
    And yet Japan just walked away from DRAM production so easily.
    They should've kept at least one player alive as a matter of national policy.
    28AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:29
    Kioxia Holdings Corp.

    47,900 -4,600
    -8.76%
    8/28
    42AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:34
    Re: #28
    Every time it ticks up, the short-sellers dump it all at once.
    Nobody's going to buy at this rate.
    45AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:36
    Re: #28
    Felt like yesterday Kioxia and the whole semiconductor sector were the only ones getting crushed.
    33AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:32
    Are the people who bought at the top still holding on for dear life? lol
    76AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:44
    Whatever happened to that naphtha shock scare?
    They're cranking out factories left and right now.
    80AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:46
    Re: #76
    If they do nothing now, they'll lose to China completely.
    87AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:48
    Re: #76
    They're trying to build it, but nothing's actually up yet.
    95AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:49
    Monday's limit-up is a lock.
    Good odds it stays limit-up for several days straight.
    97AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:50
    Re: #95
    Not happening at these interest rates.
    263AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:36
    America: "I'm the one who raised YMTC."
    275AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:39
    Re: #263
    289AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:45
    Re: #275 This announcer seems to fit better hosting the Saturday edition of Mor Sata (Morning Satellite, a TV Tokyo business news program).
    On the weekday NMS broadcast she comes across kind of low-energy.
    297AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:49
    If Japan had just paid up to America to protect its semiconductor industry back around the bubble's collapse,
    it'd be in a position now where it didn't have to kowtow to either China or Korea.
    301AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:52
    Re: #297
    Japan got stuck clinging to stolen technology and never developed the mindset to cut process steps and drive down costs.
    Japan had no cost-cutting know-how, and ended up getting thoroughly beaten even by Micron in the US — despite Micron's higher labor costs.
    299AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:50
    Once China's demand cycle plays out, NAND is going to flood the market.

    312AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:57
    Earnings are good but the stock price is rotten.
    318AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:00
    Re: #312
    There's no real technological edge there.
    423AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:39
    Can they actually secure high-skilled talent out in the countryside with no universities around?
    436AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:44
    Re: #423
    They don't need factory hands.

    484AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:59
    Re: #436
    No, that's exactly my point — can they secure high-skilled talent or not?
    498AnonymousAug 30, 2026 00:04
    Graphics cards and RAM matter more here than flash memory, honestly.
    What AI needs is performance, not storage.
    506AnonymousAug 30, 2026 00:10
    Re: #498

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    This investment announcement came right after a meeting with Prime Minister Takaichi, aligning with the government’s push to boost semiconductor production for economic security reasons. The central question is whether demand can be sustained — some market research firms have pegged the memory supply-demand turning point at around late 2026, a figure that came up in the thread as well. There was also discussion of Japan’s semiconductor history, including its retreat from DRAM after holding the bulk of the global market in the 1980s, though claims about technology leaks remain disputed even among industry insiders and shouldn’t be read as settled fact. As for securing high-skilled talent around Kitakami, the plant itself has a solid operating track record, but the scarcity of universities and other educational institutions in the area does read as a genuine ongoing challenge based on the source material.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Kioxia to Invest ¥1.8 Trillion in Memory Production Expansion — New Plant Planned in Kitakami, Iwate.”

  • ¥15.4 Trillion FX Intervention: Japan’s Yearly Total Hits Record ¥27.1 Trillion

    From late July into August, the Japanese government and the Bank of Japan carried out ¥15.3993 trillion in FX intervention, pushing this year’s total intervention spending to a record ¥27.1 trillion. Even though it was a joint US-Japan intervention, reports say roughly half of the yen-strengthening effect had already faded by the time it was over. On 5ch, opinions split over how to read the move — is the government profiting by selling its dollar holdings at a high price, or is its wealth simply shrinking as it keeps buying yen to prop it up? — and the debate spilled over into talk of expected rate hikes from September onward and rising interest payments on government bonds.

    8/28 (Fri) 19:06 JST

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    Foreign exchange intervention carried out by the Japanese government and the Bank of Japan from late July into this month has turned out to total more than ¥15 trillion.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:55
    Give the profits back to the people, damn it
    5AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:55
    Re: #4
    Japan's assets are disappearing like crazy though
    13AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:58
    Re: #5
    > ¥15.3993 trillion in yen-buying, dollar-selling
    So that means the Japanese government just pocketed ¥15 trillion
    25AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:01
    Re: #13
    It's nowhere near a profit.

    The more yen you buy, the cheaper it gets, so they're losing assets while intervening
    82AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:19
    Re: #13
    What can you even buy with that ¥15 trillion?
    6AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:56
    That was a lousy intervention.
    Can't stop the yen's slide~
    170AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:56
    Re: #6
    Trump's policies are all pushing inflation and rates higher, which drives yen-weak/dollar-strong.
    And yet he keeps telling the Fed to "cut rates"
    17AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:59
    The market's laughing at this.

    61AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:13
    Re: #26
    If tax cuts funded by bonds cause inflation, then they should have done debt-funded tax cuts back during deflation, right?
    83AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:20
    Re: #61 Re: #1
    The US CPI growth for July 2026 is 3.4%.
    Japan's CPI growth for July 2026 is 1.9%.

    Japan's price increases are just import prices pushing up domestic prices because of inflation overseas — it's not that prices are rising within Japan itself.

    Even with the weak yen, Japan's prices are rising less than overseas.

    Japan's price increases are being driven by inflation abroad, and Japan is coping with domestic deflation by holding down wages, which suppresses how much of the overseas price rises get passed on to selling prices.

    What Japan needs isn't to raise rates and strengthen the yen — it needs to tackle the deflation hidden behind high import prices and raise real wages for the working generation.
    70AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:15
    Re: #1
    Another pointless intervention that went nowhere, again
    75AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:17
    Re: #70
    Where do people like this even get their info from, in an age this flooded with information
    78AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:18
    Just quit the pointless effort already.
    Let the yen keep falling, who cares.
    Drop the gasoline subsidies too.
    Gas could be ¥1000 or even ¥2000 a liter, doesn't matter.
    If logistics collapses the public suffers, so just subsidize diesel for the logistics industry alone
    79AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:18
    Aren't they just going to burn through all the assets?
    85AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:20
    Re: #79
    Well, they already sold off the US Treasuries.
    Now it's sitting in a bank account, paying fees out of tax money.
    Guess the Finance Ministry's worried it'll lose its cushy amakudari (post-retirement job placements at firms it once regulated) slots lol
    89AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:22
    Re: #83
    I'm not talking about overseas effects.
    If debt-funded tax cuts cause inflation, then they should have done debt-funded tax cuts during deflation, right?
    124AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:30
    Re: #89 Re: #1
    Taxes are a system where a share of the value created within Japan is collected and reinvested into society. Government bonds are a way of borrowing against value Japan will create in the future.

    For a growing economy like China's or America's (where value-creating capacity keeps expanding), even snowballing debt doesn't raise doubts about future repayment.

    But for a country like Japan, where deflation from a shrinking, aging population is shrinking domestic demand, snowballing debt raises doubts about whether it can be repaid, and fewer and fewer people want to hold it.

    If bonds are used to fund tax cuts or handed out as welfare to people who aren't creating value, that just makes it even less attractive to hold, worsens the weak yen further, and keeps pushing down real wages for the working generation.
    95AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:23
    But intervention does send the rate flying.
    The goal is to force speculators to cut their losses on their positions,
    so the goal's actually been achieved
    103AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:25
    Re: #95
    Exactly, the goal is to wipe out the heavily-leveraged speculators as a warning to others.
    It's fine if it goes back to where it was.
    There'll probably be a rate hike next month anyway, so buying time is good enough.
    I think 2 hikes this year and 4 next year puts the policy rate around 2.5%
    99AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:24
    Re: #1

    They ran a weak-yen policy, which is exactly why they had to intervene in the first place.


    Big losses from the weak-yen policy.
    Big losses from the intervention.


    .
    109AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:26
    Re: #99
    They bought US Treasuries cheap and are selling them high, they're sitting pretty. Where's the big loss?
    Go relearn some economics
    111AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:27
    Re: #99
    Why'd you think it was a loss?
    Yen-buying intervention means selling dollars they bought cheap, now that they're expensive
    140AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:43
    Re: #137
    How does rising interest payments make things better?
    Are you out of your mind? lol
    158AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:49
    Re: #140
    Sure, interest payments on government bonds go up.
    But there's also income coming in from financial assets.
    You have to calculate both together.
    The MOF's Financial Bureau actually has a mechanism for simulating this as "net interest payments" — it's basically ALM (asset-liability management), like what banks do.
    For some reason they seem to keep it quiet from the public though lol
    Not just the public either — apparently even Diet members aren't told about it when they cry "interest payments are a disaster!"
    172AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:56
    Re: #158
    Interest payments are projected to rise from ¥13 trillion in FY2026 to ¥35.9 trillion by FY2035. And if rates come in 1 point higher than expected, that hits ¥45.2 trillion in FY2035.
    https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article_photo/list?article_id=511895&pid=2734147

    You really think there's enough tax revenue to cover that? lol
    175AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:57
    Re: #158
    That's not right, you'll see if you read the article at the link below — though this is just one person's take
    https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/860321?page=2
    168AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:55
    A September hike to 1.25% is a lock. The question is whether the press conference signals at least one more hike (to 1.5%) within the year, and whether that's enough to settle things down.
    If they get to 1.75% (close to neutral) within the year, yen carry trades would shrink quite a bit
    177AnonymousAug 28, 2026 21:58
    Re: #168
    Raising rates is idiotic
    185AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:00
    Re: #177
    If they don't raise rates, long-term yields are gonna get ugly lol

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Foreign exchange intervention is an operation where the government draws down its foreign currency reserves (mainly US Treasuries) to sell dollars and buy yen, funded through the Foreign Exchange Fund Special Account. Selling dollars bought cheap at a higher price generates an accounting profit, but the more the government intervenes to buy yen, the more dollar supply floods the market, which tends to erode the intervention’s own effectiveness — a structural dilemma. What split opinion on the thread was whether to view this operation as “profiting from the spread” or as “a costly holding action,” a difference of perspective that stems from the very nature of FX intervention itself, meaning neither view is simply wrong. The discussion also brought up the BOJ’s expected rate hikes and projections for rising interest payments on government bonds (from ¥13 trillion in FY2026 to ¥35.9 trillion in FY2035, or ¥45.2 trillion if rates run 1 point higher than expected) — but it’s worth noting these figures aren’t directly caused by the FX intervention; they’re being cited as a separate fiscal indicator.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Dollar-Yen Rate] July-August FX intervention totals ¥15.4 trillion — even with joint US-Japan intervention, half the yen-strengthening effect has already faded — this year’s total FX intervention already hits a record ¥27.1 trillion.”

  • Some Broke Up With Their Girlfriends to Max Out Their NISA… The Extreme Lifestyles Revealed at the ‘NISA Poverty Bar’

    Japan’s new NISA tax-free investment program has expanded its lifetime tax-exempt investment cap to 18 million yen, and a lifestyle known as “NISA poverty” — trying to max out that limit as fast as possible — is drawing attention. At a networking event called the “NISA Poverty Bar” covered by ABEMA TIMES, participants shared their reality: breaking up with a girlfriend just to hit the cap, or putting 110,000 yen of a 200,000 yen monthly income into investments. Expert Nikuyo Nikunokoji called the trend “seriously precarious.” On 5channel, opinions clashed head-on between those who argued that filling the quota in five years makes life easier afterward thanks to compound interest, and critics who said sacrificing your life and relationships for it defeats the whole purpose.

    The Reality of “Extreme Living” Discussed at the “NISA Poverty Bar” — “I Broke Up With My Girlfriend to Max Out My Contributions,” “Investing 110,000 Yen Out of a 200,000 Yen Income” — Expert Nikuyo Nikunokoji Warns “It’s Seriously Precarious”

    Published Fri, 8/28, 11:00

    ABEMA TIMES

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:05
    At the end of the day, I bet it's people like this who'll be laughing last.
    14AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:06
    Re: #6
    Private vice (overspending) is a public virtue.
    Private virtue (NISA poverty) is a public vice.
    10AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:06
    Tough life when you're not too bright, huh… That's putting the cart before the horse…
    17AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:07
    Re: #10
    Why? If you fill the 18-million-yen cap in 5 years, your money starts snowballing fast after that, so you won't need to keep funneling your paycheck into savings.
    Put in 5 years of contributions and after that you can spend what you earn guilt-free.
    34AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:10
    Re: #17
    I think this is really a topic for people who don't make much money though…
    Basically I think you should do whatever you want.
    Though I do think it's kind of dumb (lol)
    99AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:21
    Re: #17
    Why are you assuming it'll keep growing lol
    49AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:13
    The means has become the end.
    70AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:17
    While you're young, isn't it better to invest in things like certifications to boost your income?
    78AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:19
    Re: #70
    For people who can't raise their income even by investing in themselves, NISA works fine, I think. Invest in yourself without spending money.
    94AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:21
    Re: #70
    I think investing in yourself is important too, and breaking up with a girlfriend you actually care about just to max out your contributions is peak stupidity.
    If she's some girl you don't care about, sure, break up lol
    85AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:20
    I could still handle stashing away 100,000 yen a month.
    But the iDeCo contribution limit goes up next year, right?
    Looks like my "iDeCo poverty" era is confirmed.
    93AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:21
    Re: #85
    Oh right, there's the iDeCo increase too. With NISA already going full tilt, maxing that out as well is rough.
    128AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:25
    Re: #93
    With NISA you can cash out if push comes to shove, but iDeCo locks your money up until age 60 — so you should be careful, yet the pull of the income tax deduction is too strong to resist.
    Maybe I should scale back NISA instead…
    157AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:28
    Re: #128
    I think maxing out NISA as fast as possible should be the top priority. Max out iDeCo and it grows too much, and you'll probably get taxed on it at retirement, so that's tricky.
    176AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:30
    Re: #128
    The NISA cap of 18 million yen doesn't disappear, but iDeCo's allowance just vanishes if you don't use it.
    If you've got the spare cash, I think prioritizing iDeCo makes more sense.
    111AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:23
    I bet people who live like this when they're young end up, once they get old, either becoming abnormally timid and unable to spend any money, or one day the tension just snaps and they turn into wild spendthrifts.
    137AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:26
    Re: #111
    Apparently they end up falling for romance scams.
    336AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:44
    Re: #111
    It's the people who don't invest who are the timid, jumpy ones — they're too scared to even do index-fund dollar-cost averaging.
    112AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:23
    Re: #99
    Mints all over the world are cranking out money non-stop.
    The total money supply only ever goes up.
    Just holding onto cash means the cash you have keeps losing value.
    Index funds are fine to feel safe about.
    Even counting the Lehman Shock, look at it over a 10-year span and the market still goes up.
    129AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:25
    Re: #112
    I see.
    I envy you young folks.
    Once you hit your late 50s like me, it's too scary to touch.
    Guess I'll just quietly dump it into government bonds.
    156AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:28
    Re: #129
    With Japan right now making noise about cutting the consumption tax, there's no way they can push through any major tax hikes for a while, so inflation is only going to keep accelerating.
    163AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:28
    Re: #129
    I've got a bit in government bonds too, but aside from being able to cash out anytime, there's no real value to them.
    Well, the interest is about 3 times what it was 3 years ago, though.
    118AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:24
    What's the investing term for putting almost all your assets into investments? I can't remember it.
    131AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:25
    Re: #118
    Going all-in on risk assets.
    138AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:26
    Re: #118
    Full investment.
    142AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:27
    Even without NISA, you could probably wipe out about a million yen through expenses like your PC and electricity bill, I'd think.
    I actually file a tax return for that.
    154AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:28
    Re: #142
    As a side business? Being able to write off electricity and PC costs as expenses sounds nice.
    250AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:36
    A lifetime investment cap of "only" 18 million yen, huh~

    …The fact that I even thought that means I should definitely never show up to a gathering like this.
    I'd probably get stabbed in the back.
    287AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:39
    Re: #250
    Wow, impressive (said totally deadpan)
    317AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:42
    Re: #250
    You could just use a regular taxable brokerage account on top of it. If you've got the money, use both together.
    322AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:42
    Re: #250
    I think it's plenty. Turn it 10x and that's 180 million yen tax-free. There are tenbagger stocks all over the place.
    276AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:38
    My image of NISA and iDeCo is that only idiots who don't research anything actually do them.
    291AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:40
    Re: #276
    So what do the people who actually research it buy?
    303AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:41
    Re: #276
    What are you doing then? (lol)
    312AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:42
    Re: #276
    If you ask me, it's the people who don't even bother researching NISA and iDeCo and just skip them who are the idiots.
    323AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:43
    I was buying 10,000 yen of NTT stock every week this year through the growth investment quota, but the share price shot up so much I stopped buying.
    328AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:43
    Re: #309
    You don't trust the government, yet you're doing NISA and iDeCo, which the government is pushing? lol
    The financial institutions involved are even less trustworthy.

    Fixed deposit interest rates are starting to climb, so it's over now.
    346AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:45
    Re: #328
    Inflation and stock gains outpace fixed deposit interest, so even with higher rates nobody's putting money into deposits.
    354AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:46
    Re: #323
    Yeah, it had gotten cheap, huh.
    Re: #328
    Are you being serious?
    400AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:51
    Re: #328
    The very fact that the government is pushing investments like NISA and iDeCo is proof it's abandoning responsibility for people's futures, however you slice it.
    They even came out and said you'd need 20 million yen for retirement.
    If anything, anyone not doing this now is basically abandoning responsibility for their own future, right?
    Do you seriously think welfare benefits (namapo) as generous as today's will still be around 20 years from now?
    392AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:50
    I've only got 50,000 yen in savings, but I've got 18 million yen sitting in my NISA and taxable brokerage accounts.
    404AnonymousAug 28, 2026 18:51
    Re: #392
    How do you even end up with unrealized losses like that?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Japan’s new NISA program, launched in 2024, expanded the lifetime tax-exempt investment cap to 18 million yen (including a 12-million-yen growth investment quota) and removed the program’s time limit. People racing to fill that cap as fast as possible have come to be called “NISA poor,” and this article covers a networking event called the “NISA Poverty Bar” where such people gather. Expert Nikuyo Nikunokoji sounded the alarm over the extreme belt-tightening involved, calling it “precarious.” On the forum thread, the logic of the fill-it-fast crowd — that maxing out the cap in five years lets compound interest do the work afterward — clashed with critics who said sacrificing a relationship for the sake of investing defeats the purpose. The thread also touched on the structural difference that iDeCo funds are locked up until age 60, while NISA can be cashed out anytime, with opinions split on which to prioritize. What readers may misunderstand is that NISA itself isn’t risky — the real point of debate is whether the “behavior” of rushing to fill the cap at the cost of one’s daily life and relationships is worth it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “The Reality of “Extreme Living” Discussed at the “NISA Poverty Bar” — “I Broke Up With My Girlfriend to Max Out My Contributions,” “Investing 110,000 Yen Out of a 200,000 Yen Income”.”

  • Is “Higher Wages” the Key to Fixing Japan’s Low Birth Rate? 5ch Split Over Whether “It’s Mostly About Money”

    Job Research Institute, a research body run by Persol Career (the company behind the job-change service “doda”), has published survey results naming “rising wages” as the policy most needed to combat Japan’s declining birth rate. On 5ch, this struck a chord with users pointing to soaring education and child-rearing costs, but plenty pushed back too — “wages were low in the Meiji era too, and yet people had lots of kids,” “it’s not about money, it’s about having too many other options” — leaving opinion split.

    Job Research Institute, a research body operated by Persol Career Co., which also runs the job-change service “doda,” conducted a “2026 Survey on Awareness of the Declining Birthrate” targeting 450 working men and women.

    The survey sheds light on working people’s attitudes toward the declining birth rate, covering the gap between the ideal and actual number of children, the factors standing in the way, how personally responsible people feel about the issue, and what policies they think are needed to improve it.

    ・Ideal vs. actual number of children

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:45
    So how do we actually grow Japan's population?
    What do we need to do to stop the birth rate from falling?
    Instead of just criticizing everything, come up with some ideas.
    Why does everyone only complain?
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:47
    Re: #2
    Crack down on real estate speculation.
    Housing's become a plaything for capitalists, so it's just way too expensive.
    Foreigners shouldn't be allowed to buy and sell it however they please.
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:48
    Re: #2
    Make childbirth and childcare a state duty (paid public service) and numbers will go up.
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:49
    Re: #2
    Abolish compulsory education. Education costs way too much.
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:46
    Nope, that's not it.
    Even back in the low-wage Meiji era, the number of kids kept rising.
    102AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:55
    Re: #8
    Do you not get that the cost of raising kids is completely different now than it was back then?
    These days there's this pervasive attitude that if you can't give your kid all sorts of experiences and put them through university, the poor kid is being shortchanged.
    Also, back then kids were labor, but nowadays a kid brings absolutely nothing to the household.
    In other words, in today's world a child is just a liability.
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:47
    So why do poor countries in Africa and other developing nations have so many kids?
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:48
    Re: #20
    Because kids can be used as labor.
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:52
    Re: #20
    In developing countries the main industry is primary-sector work close to home, so the whole family can pitch in as labor.
    In developed countries full of salaried workers, you can't put kids to work, so a child is just a luxury item with no practical payoff.
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:48
    Getting more women to be full-time housewives is the best fix, honestly.
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:49
    Re: #23
    No point pushing more full-time housewives.
    Watching three kids alone is brutal.
    It's easier — and brings in money — to drop them at daycare and go to work.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:51
    Re: #33
    Money isn't even the important thing here.
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:50
    Only option left is to amend the constitution and make marriage mandatory.
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:50
    Quit only bringing up civil servants.
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:51
    Re: #45
    Wait, is it actually going up for civil servants?
    We'd need an actual survey on whether the birth rate is higher among civil servants.
    82AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:54
    Re: #51
    Civil servants already have an insanely high birth rate to begin with.
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:52
    Serious answer: raise wages for high-school-educated blue-collar workers
    and lower wages (and status) for college-educated white-collar workers — flip the social hierarchy.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:53
    Re: #62
    If that's what it takes, I'd rather just keep the birth rate falling.
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:54
    Re: #62
    Blue-collar jobs can just be replaced with immigrant labor.
    83AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:54
    Re: #62
    Do you realize how dumb that sounds?
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:53
    Re: #50
    And with no money, then what?
    Just mass-produce more high-school grads raised poor?
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:53
    Getting more women to be full-time housewives is the best fix, honestly.
    Re: #66
    Sending them off to daycare is the sadder option, if anything.
    78AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:53
    I don't think it's simply a money problem.
    109AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:56
    Re: #78
    It's mostly money.

    The families who manage to have three kids are doctors, civil servants, or big-corporation households.
    130AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:58
    So why is the birth rate higher in low-wage regions?
    138AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:58
    Re: #130
    In areas where young women move away, the denominator shrinks, so the birth rate looks higher.
    146AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:59
    Re: #130
    Because the cause isn't money — it's having too many other options.
    156AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:00
    Re: #130
    In the countryside people often inherit land and a house from their parents, so even without money there's a decent amount of breathing room.
    162AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:00
    Supporting families after they've already had kids is pointless.
    Just design the system so having kids actually pays off.
    183AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:02
    Re: #162
    One-time support just at birth doesn't work.
    It weakens the sense of responsibility for raising the kid.
    They need to hand out a massive child allowance instead.
    184AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:02
    Re: #162
    We're a democracy, so doing that would lose you the election — parents with kids are a tiny minority.

    Background and Key Points

    Persol Career runs doda, one of Japan’s largest job-change platforms, and its research arm periodically surveys the working population on social issues tied to employment. Japan’s total fertility rate has sat below 1.3 for years despite decades of child-allowance and daycare-expansion policies, so a 450-person sample naming “higher wages” as the top fix is notable mainly because it cuts against the government’s current toolkit, which leans on subsidies and facilities rather than income growth itself. The Meiji-era comparison posters raised is a real historical touchstone in Japan — birth rates were high through the early twentieth century — but it’s usually invoked loosely, without noting that child mortality was severe and children functioned as agricultural labor, contexts the thread doesn’t spell out.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t “money matters vs. doesn’t” — nearly everyone agrees costs are a factor — it’s whether money is the root cause or just one visible symptom of something else: the “too many other options” camp argues urban, salaried life offers status, leisure, and comfort that having children can’t compete with, whereas the wage camp treats children as a straightforward cost-benefit problem that better pay would fix.

    What the thread never engages with is why civil servants and dual-professional households reportedly have more kids despite Japan’s high income tax and social-insurance burden — job security and predictable schedules, not raw salary, may matter more than wage level. It also never questions whether a 450-respondent doda survey of working adults, a group skewed toward urban, salaried professionals, can speak for rural or non-regular workers at all.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “‘Rising Wages’ Needed to Fix Japan’s Declining Birth Rate, Job Research Institute Finds”.

  • ‘Twitter’ Name and Logo Return: New Company Launches ‘Twitter.now’ Social Network

    A Virginia-based startup called “Operation Bluebird” has revived the “Twitter” name and logo, which were said to have disappeared when the platform was rebranded as “X” in 2023, launching a new social network called “Twitter.now” on August 24. Reactions on 5ch were split — some pointed out that “everyone still calls it Twitter anyway,” while others argued over naming rights and trademarks, with comments like “using someone else’s trademark without permission is basically theft” and “Elon’s actually in the right here.”

    August 27, 2026

    That old “Twitter,” which vanished when it was renamed “X” in 2023, is back in action.

    Operation Bluebird, a Virginia-based startup working to revive the “Twitter” name and logo it says were abandoned, announced on August 24 (local time) that it has launched a new social media network called “Twitter.now.”

    Source: taisy0.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:26
    Everyone still calls it Twitter anyway
    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:27
    Guess I'm not the only one who forgets what 'X' is even supposed to be
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:29
    Kind of like Kase Taishu vs. 'New Kase Taishu'? (a famous Japanese actor name-rights dispute)
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:01
    Re: #4
    The 'New Kase Taishu' guy lost in court and ended up going by Issei Sakamoto in the end.
    Now that I think about it, 'Issei Sakamoto' kind of sounded like a dumb name lol
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:35
    Kind of like the relationship between 5ch and 2ch, maybe
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:36
    New Twitter is pay-to-use
    Welp, that's that then
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:47
    What about Bluesky?
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:49
    If 'tweeter' doesn't work, why not 'squawker' or 'woofer'? (a pun on ツイッター/Twitter sounding like ツイーター, the speaker component "tweeter")
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:52
    X needs to stop messing with Nitter already
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:56
    Didn't take care of it, but still wants to claim the rights
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:03
    Musk probably only bought Twitter for AI training data anyway
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:12
    So you don't say 'tweet' on X anymore? Then what do they call it?
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:24
    Re: #12
    Pretty sure it's 'post'
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:24
    Yeah, a single letter like 'X' is just awkward to use (hard to say out loud), so people end up saying 'Twitter' out of habit.

    Re: #12
    'Post'
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:20
    Re: #1
    Honestly, Elon's in the right on this one
    The company was acquired — you shouldn't get to just call yourself Twitter
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:25
    Re: #15
    At least spell it 'ekks' or something… it's impossible to search for
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:29
    Honestly I've mostly stopped saying 'Twitter' or 'tweet' by now, but 'retweet' still slips out
    Actually, I have zero intention of ever correcting myself on that one
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:30
    Re: #15
    Up until now, googling 'twitter' would at least barely surface X content, but from now on it'll just pull up the new Twitter.now stuff lolol
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:40
    If they went with 'Tweety,' Warner Bros. would come after them (referencing the Looney Tunes character Tweety Bird)
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:41
    Re: #1
    This shouldn't fly
    Just because they changed the name doesn't mean they abandoned the value of the old one — that logic can't just slide
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:43
    If they seriously wanted to revive the Twitter name, they should've bought X from Elon first
    This is just plain theft
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:44
    So some unrelated party is just slapping the name on themselves for publicity?
    Trash move
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:46
    They should've just gone with 'Z'
    Oh wait, Z.com is already being used by GMO or someone
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:49
    Didn't they keep the trademark?
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:33
    Re: #24
    In Japan, the 'Twitter' trademark is registered/owned by 'Twitter, Inc.' or 'X Corp.'

    And:
    Trademark Application 2026-062901
    TWITTER
    Tsuittā, Touittā
    Operation Bluebird Inc.
    2026/06/02
    Pending — application under examination (formalities incomplete)

    As far as I know, under Japanese IP law you can't strip a validly registered trademark from someone within its term just by claiming 'non-use'
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:51
    With something like this, the value comes from the fact that tons of people use it whether they like it or not — like LINE
    So a service that just switches its name back to Twitter has zero value on its own
    Plenty of people still call X 'Twitter' anyway, so reverting the service name won't actually bring anyone back
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:54
    Guess we can finally stop seeing that annoying 'X (formerly Twitter)' phrasing everywhere?
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:59
    What a pointless stunt
    Kind of a Hiroyuki move (referencing Hiroyuki Nishimura, the 2channel founder known for this kind of provocative move)
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:01
    Would 'tvvitter' (two v's instead of w) have been safe?
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:09
    Somebody revive '2channel' too while they're at it
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:20
    Re: #30
    It's not eligible — 2ch.sc has kept it continuously running
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:19
    AI be like: "Damn, US district courts are wild! Looks like America might become an even bigger goldmine of free-for-grabs IP than Japan?"
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:30
    If it were the simple, early-days Twitter, I'd actually want to use it
    The current version has way too many features
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:55
    He actually bought Twitter, so this probably isn't gonna fly
    Even now users still say 'Twitter' and 'tweet' regardless of it being X
    Everyone still thinks of X as basically containing/being Twitter, and that hasn't changed
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:58
    Today, humanity for the first time——
    landed on Jupiter—— (a nonsense meme post, unrelated to the topic)
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:01
    Got my account suspended for some incomprehensible reason — all I ever did was like and repost stuff. Done using it.
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:07
    Re: #39
    That's either a misfire or off-topic — pretty sure that's about X, not this
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:02
    Oh, it costs money

    Background and Key Points

    The “X” rebrand happened in July 2023, roughly nine months after Elon Musk’s $44 billion acquisition closed, and it merged the old bird logo and “tweet”/”retweet” vocabulary into an all-in-one “everything app” branding push. Under both U.S. and Japanese law, though, rebranding doesn’t automatically release a trademark — in Japan specifically, a registered mark can only be stripped from its holder through a formal 不使用取消審判 (non-use cancellation trial), which requires three consecutive years of non-use before a third party can even petition, and X Corp still holds the “Twitter” registration used commercially in ancillary branding (the thread cites Operation Bluebird’s own June 2026 JPO filing, still pending examination, as evidence it doesn’t yet own the mark in Japan). That legal reality is what the thread actually argues over: one camp treats this as harmless since “everyone still calls it Twitter” colloquially regardless of what the app is named, while the other insists that habitual usage has no bearing on legal ownership, and that an unrelated Virginia startup slapping the old name and logo on a new service is straightforward trademark infringement rather than a legitimate “revival.”

    What the posts skip over is that a name’s value comes from its user base, not its label — X’s daily active users didn’t vanish when the rebrand happened, so reverting a brand new, unrelated, and (per posts #6 and #40) paid platform to “Twitter” borrows nostalgia without inheriting any of the original network effects, meaning even a favorable trademark ruling wouldn’t make Twitter.now functionally “Twitter” again.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Business News+) thread “‘Twitter’ Is Back”.