Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • GTA6 Console Version May Struggle to Hit 60fps, Digital Foundry Warns

    Overseas outlet Digital Foundry has pointed out that the console version of GTA6 places extremely heavy demands on the CPU, making stable 60fps potentially difficult to achieve. Around the same time, TechnoEdge reported that the game is targeting 30fps at launch, with 60fps support to be considered in a post-release update. On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board, users debated the PS5 Pro’s use of the same Zen2 CPU as the base PS5, and traded specific CPU/GPU model numbers and prices needed to hit 60fps or higher on PC. The thread also saw clashing opinions over the actual quality of GTA5’s gameplay itself.

    9AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:02
    😂 Obviously I'll be playing at 60fps+ lol
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HPLCs77a0AA3Dbx.jpg
    48AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:29
    Re: #9
    Lol, using such a pricey CPU
    You could've bought a 4070 with that money
    13AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:04
    Any decent PC gamer's CPU has to be an X3D chip, obviously.
    43AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:25
    Re: #13
    I swapped in a 9800X3D too once it got cheaper.
    Some games used to stutter even with a 5080 GPU, and that completely stopped. Anyone who downplays the CPU just doesn't know much about PCs.
    162AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:57
    Re: #13
    Is a 5800 acceptable too?!
    51AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:31
    Re: #43
    Dunno what CPU you had before, but of course the CPU matters.
    A GPU is ultimately just a pile of parallel-computation hardware — if you're using all those extra features, it all comes down to the CPU.
    53AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:35
    Re: #51
    It's a 7900X.
    59AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:39
    Re: #51
    Well, since you only had to swap the CPU and not the whole motherboard, that already tells you it's an AM5 board, right?
    66AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:45
    Who cares about the specs talk, what about the actual gameplay?
    Playing GTA5 now, it honestly feels really dated — kind of shocked me.

    Does GTA6 still do that thing where you instantly get a game over if you don't clear a quest exactly the way it tells you to? lol
    That's basically a bad game at this point…
    72AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:48
    Re: #66
    Going by everything revealed so far, I don't think they've shown any genuinely new kind of fun.
    74AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:51
    Re: #66
    But the reality is the PS5 Pro still runs the same Zen2 as the PS5 lol
    93AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:59
    Re: #66
    The gap between 5 and 6 is just too long.
    A ton of games in the same genre came out in the meantime and burned through all the ideas,
    so it takes a lot more than it used to for players to actually be impressed.
    89AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:58
    Also, I think it's a downside of GTA5 being so huge — you barely find any quests unless you're staring at the map hunting for them.
    The random pop-up quests are lame too, like chasing down a fleeing thief or some cheap trap setup.
    I thought this back then too — I honestly don't get why this game is rated so highly.
    I had the same doubt back then and asked about it here, and the answer I got was basically "the online multiplayer is great."
    Is that really what matters for an open-world game?

    GTA5 has never really been the game people point to as a great open-world title anyway —
    it's just massively popular.
    Skyrim, The Witcher 3, RDR2, and Zelda: Breath of the Wild are the four that usually get named as open-world classics.
    116AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:20
    "Minecraft is open world!"
    (that joke's slowly growing on me)
    123AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:26
    Re: #116
    Wait, is that official? lol (that's growing on me too)
    124AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:26
    PlayStation-fanboy media getting desperate, lol (note: "ゴキ" is derogatory 5ch slang for Sony/PS fans)
    127AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:28
    Being able to play the overseas version and having a strong CPU really does make the Xbox Series S (XSS) the best option after all.
    140AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:36
    Re: #127
    All the consoles are running last-gen CPUs, it's not even a contest.
    144AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:39
    Re: #140
    Even within the same generation there's a real gap in capability lol
    146AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:40
    Re: #140
    Even so, it's impressive they managed to build something like this. I'm PC-only, so it's rough knowing I'll have to wait at least a year.
    And even once it's out, it might just turn out riddled with PC-specific bugs ("omakan" — issues blamed on your own setup)… lol
    138AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:35
    So how many hundred-thousand yen does a PC need to cost to hold a stable 4K60, then?
    143AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #138
    Probably around 500,000 yen
    145AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:39
    Re: #138
    I'll build the best rig once the PC version comes out —
    probably around 1.3 million yen.
    Better cost-performance to just flex with a 200,000 yen build during the console-exclusive period though.
    148AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:43
    Re: #138
    Just slap a 56,000 yen GPU into the PC I already have.
    245AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:14
    'GTA 6' Reportedly Targeting 30fps at Launch, With 60fps to Be Considered in a Later Update | TechnoEdge
    https://www.techno-edge.net/article/2026/08/30/5444.html
    247AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:25
    Re: #245
    It's already 1440p30fps — I'm curious what else they're going to cut.
    259AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:11
    7800X3D
    5070 Ti
    Just bought this PC and now I'm nervous about whether it'll actually hit 60…
    263AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:23
    Re: #259
    You've got DLSS too, should be plenty, no?
    266AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:26
    Re: #259
    Drop the graphics settings,
    turn ray tracing off,
    and you'll probably just barely scrape by at 60fps.

    If this came out 2-3 years from now, they'd likely optimize heavily around whatever GPUs are current by then,
    so honestly the bar looks pretty high right now.

    They delayed this thing over and over and are still only targeting 30fps at launch,
    so the PC version is probably going to take a good while too.
    271AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:20
    Re: #259
    If you're comfortable swapping a CPU yourself, just upgrade to Zen 6 when it lands — easy.
    288AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:47

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    GTA6 is Rockstar’s latest title after a long development cycle, and it has already seen multiple reported delays. Digital Foundry, an overseas outlet specializing in graphics and performance analysis, appears to have reached this conclusion after weighing hardware capabilities against the game’s performance demands. The focus is CPU power: while the PS5 Pro does boost GPU performance over the base PS5, its CPU is reportedly still the same Zen2 architecture, creating a structural bottleneck where CPU-heavy games struggle to gain frame rate even on the higher-end console. This is a detail readers who assume buying a Pro console automatically means higher frame rates can easily overlook. In the thread, users discussed in concrete terms the CPU/GPU combinations and costs needed to hit 60fps or higher on PC, while the staged approach described in TechnoEdge’s report — 30fps at launch, with 60fps considered for a later update — is a technique often used for major titles in recent years, and has more to do with balancing development schedules than with any hard limit of console hardware itself.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread: [Bad News for PlayStation Fans] Digital Foundry: “GTA6 Console Version’s CPU Load Is Extremely High, 60fps May Be Difficult”

  • “Isekai Anime Is Popular Because of Overseas Fans” — 5ch Fires Back: “Naro-kei Is Already a National Anime”

    A Yahoo! News article titled “It Was Only Natural That Japanese Anime Stopped Being Made For Japanese People” sparked debate on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. The piece pointed out that isekai (otherworld-reincarnation) shows now dominate the “new releases” section of streaming services, but thread posters split into two camps: one arguing that naro-kei works (originating from the novel site “Shousetsuka ni Narou”) are actually national hits that rank near the top of domestic ratings, and another suggesting the industry is shifting toward a model where shows are made for overseas audiences first, with Japanese viewers catching up afterward. Some pointed to a similar overseas shift that already happened in the game industry, framing it as a broader change in industry structure.

    It Was Only Natural That Japanese Anime Stopped Being Made For Japanese People… The “Real Reason,” Which Is Neither the Original Author’s Fault Nor the Viewers’

    Bookstores and streaming services are currently flooded with titles categorized as “isekai reincarnation.”

    The “new releases” section of video streaming services is packed with keywords like “reincarnation,” “overpowered protagonist,” “banishment,” “villainess,” and “slow living.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:55
    What are you even talking about? There's no Japanese anime actually being MADE for overseas audiences. This is just the same content-business model as old-school Japanese games back in the day — make it for Japanese fans, and it happens to sell overseas too. If you want to blame the production committees' circumstances, fine, that tracks — but how do you explain the flood of duds coming out that don't even look interesting?
    17AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:29
    Re: #3
    Probably because game publishers are already like that, and someone who saw it discussed in threads like this one figured "alright, guess I'll write an anime article too."
    I've seen videos pop up in my recommendations covering game topics that only I had written about — for games I really like, I deliberately post my unique takes late, because if a detailed video comes out around the same time, nobody can tell whether the creator noticed it independently or just copied me. I don't mind them making videos out of it — we do the same thing, using videos as material — I just hate when they act all smug like they figured it out themselves.
    I don't watch anime, but going by what gets posted and discussed on 5ch, that doesn't match my impression at all.
    65AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:42
    Re: #3 Re: #17
    Unfortunately, the same thing is happening with anime.
    No, actually it's even worse with anime.
    Time to face reality.
    67AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:45
    Re: #3
    Anime made for overseas audiences is already becoming the mainstream. We're heading into an era where shows made for foreign viewers become hits in Japan. It's not about the production committees' convenience — it's about reality's convenience. Even the production committees can't fight it. Foreigners will love it even if it's garbage.
    5AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:00
    Whatever happens in the game industry tends to hit other subculture industries later on.
    That reminds me of something Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot said in a Famitsu interview: "Watching Japan makes me a little worried, because Japan tends to be ahead of the curve — things that happen in Japan have often ended up happening worldwide 10 or 15 years later."
    The anime industry should take that as a cautionary tale, like Square Enix's "overseas sickness" (kaigai byou, its overseas-market obsession). Even if it's profitable right now, eventually other countries will start making their own "Japanese-anime-style" anime, settle into a domestic production-and-consumption loop, and Japanese anime will get left out in the cold. Just like how Japanese JRPGs had a solid following in China — until Chinese-made Genshin Impact showed up and stole all the attention.
    9AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:04
    Re: #5
    As for content (cartoons) that can actually compete with Japanese anime, right now it's basically just Disney and Marvel. Stuff coming out of other countries can't even become hits in their own countries… Webtoons got hyped up so much, but there's barely any streaming platforms left carrying them. As for characters, Labubu is supposedly a hit, but the scale is way too small next to Japan.
    18AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:31
    Re: #5
    I don't think it's really because of Genshin Impact — I think "JRPG-flavored JRPGs" just narrowed down to basically the Trails (Kiseki) series. And Trails still has a solid following in China.
    108AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:12
    Re: #5
    Sony's already doing it, so of course [the anime industry] is going to make the same mistake.
    7AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:02
    I don't see how "Yani Neko" (literally "nicotine-stain cat," a viral meme clip) was made with overseas audiences in mind, though.
    133AnonymousSep 1, 2026 02:38
    Re: #7
    That's just one of those Gintama gross-out-joke compilation videos.
    10AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:09
    If it's not being made for a Japanese audience, the theme songs should be Western pop by now, shouldn't they?
    70AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:47
    Re: #10
    Foreigners just aren't that interested in the theme songs.
    73AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:49
    Re: #10
    Wanna talk about the Kaiju No. 8 anime, based on the Shonen Jump manga?
    11AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:10
    Re: #9
    > Stuff coming out of other countries can't even become hits in their own countries… Webtoons got hyped up so much, but there's barely any streaming platforms left carrying them.
    It was like that before Genshin Impact showed up too. People used to make a fuss calling Chinese games rip-offs of Japanese anime. Small-scale Chinese anime-style games were already popping up here and there even before miHoYo's Genshin. Markets are always changing.
    13AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:14
    Re: #11
    Genshin had zero real influence. JRPGs just flopped on their own. The studios that flopped aren't making them anymore, but the ones that didn't flop are still making them — Genshin or no Genshin.
    14AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:14
    Re: #11
    As for games: Japanese publishers stopped making traditional-style Japanese games, and that's exactly the gap hardcore overseas fans of Japanese games are filling — making titles premised on Japanese, without changing the essence of what made Japanese games great. And they're ruthless about cutting anything that won't sell. Japanese companies just can't do that (it's baffling why they won't).
    Nobody in anime or manga has that same level of dedication (it's not that such people don't exist, and I do root for them, but they inevitably get buried in the domestic market).
    12AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:13
    It's often said that the biggest reason so many naro-kei novels keep getting adapted into anime is simply that they're genuinely popular overseas.
    72AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:48
    Re: #12
    This.
    At the end of the day, people here just don't want to face reality.
    16AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:22
    I mean, the people who cry "old media bad" while gleefully hyping up foreign streaming services kind of come off as selling out their own country, don't they.
    75AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:49
    Re: #16
    Aside from Niconico, isn't Abema basically the only Japanese streaming service left?
    19AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:31
    Naro-kei is already a national anime, though —
    Sazae-san 6.8
    Detective Conan 5.9
    Chibi Maruko-chan 4.1
    That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime 3.5 ← naro-kei
    Doraemon 3.2
    Crayon Shin-chan 3.1
    The Middle-Aged Man Who Became a Sword Saint 2.6 ← naro-kei
    Ascendance of a Bookworm: Adopted Daughter of an Archduke 2.6 ← naro-kei
    Detective PreCure! 2.3
    One Piece 2.3
    21AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:33
    Re: #19
    The thing is, "isekai" is basically Japanese-coined English that's caught on overseas as-is. And since this year, there's been a flood of "dungeon livestream" shows piling on, which makes the whole boom feel even more off.
    22AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:34
    Re: #19
    Sounds like you don't even know where "naro" comes from. You otaku guys borrow terms from other fields for both games and anime, but you use them without understanding what they actually mean.
    76AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:50
    Re: #19
    That has nothing to do with naro-kei at all lol.
    Do you even know what "naro" means???
    24AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:02
    Naruto and Dragon Ball are both huge overseas too — this article is already proof the writer's just run out of ideas.
    82AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:52
    Re: #24
    That's not the point. The point is that the industry's business model itself is shifting to being overseas-first.
    26AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:17
    Well, it's basically a given at this point that AI will soon be able to generate Japanese-style anime at ultra-low cost anyway…
    28AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:20
    Re: #26
    The most essential part is something AI simply can't do (I'm personally convinced of this), so the difficulty of overseas creators breaking down Japanese anime's fortress hasn't changed one bit. If it were actually possible, we'd already be seeing works by overseas authors getting attention on Naro (Shousetsuka ni Narou) first.
    Though on the plus side, it might at least help weed out the most brutally exploitative animators and studios.
    32AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:26
    This reads like it was written by some cranky otaku who just can't accept modern anime, but kids today — heck, even middle-aged guys — enjoy isekai anime just fine. If anything, Japan is probably the country that loves isekai anime the most. There are probably several reasons, but one is that since it's built on game-world logic, the setting is easy to grasp. Japanese people love fantasy RPGs — not the gritty, low-fantasy style popular overseas, but the distinctly Japanese-flavored high fantasy — so of course anime based on that appeals to Japanese audiences. Except maybe to a handful of nostalgia-obsessed or cranky otaku.
    89AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:57
    Re: #32
    You're not seeing the whole picture. Liking isekai and having ONLY isekai as your taste are two different things.
    And honestly, the current trend looks more like Japanese viewers watching isekai shows that were made for overseas audiences, right alongside them.
    90AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:57
    Re: #32
    You're not seeing the whole picture. Liking isekai and having ONLY isekai as your taste are two different things.
    And honestly, the current trend looks more like Japanese viewers also watching isekai shows that were made for overseas audiences.
    74AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:49
    Mega Man Battle Network (Rockman EXE)
    Digimon
    Web Diver
    Collector Yui
    .hack series
    Sword Art Online
    Gundam Build Divers, Gundam Build Divers Re:RISE, Gundam Build Metaverse (Gundam Build series)
    Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS
    Super Kaguya-hime!
    Belle (Ryuu to Sobakasu no Hime)
    PriPara, Idol Time PriPara, Secret x Aipuri, Onegai Aipuri (Pretty series)
    Princess Connect
    SSSS.GRIDMAN, Gridman Universe
    Princession Orchestra

    None of these could have gotten anywhere near this popular if they'd been isekai.
    95AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:00
    Re: #74
    The point is about the makers of those shows, or their rights, getting bought up [by foreign capital].
    100AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:04
    Re: #95
    Out of the list in Re: #74, how many of those franchises actually got their rights bought out by a Chinese company and got driven into the ground?
    104AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:08
    Kadokawa's current top earner is 'Re:Zero,' pulling in ¥1.3 billion in 3 months and crushing everything else… meanwhile in publishing, 'Super Kaguya-hime' suddenly jumped to #2, drawing plenty of attention.
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/299d0e47dd59119fb669b496e189e52d767963cf

    Re:Zero's books — supposedly a worldwide hit — and Kimi Puri 1Q, whose overseas sales seem to be almost entirely in Korea, are turning out to have roughly equal overseas sales.
    124AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:58
    Isekai, reincarnation, overpowered protagonist, curb-stomping, banishment, harem, villainess — if any of these words show up, I'm dropping it after episode zero.
    126AnonymousSep 1, 2026 02:00
    Re: #124
    Whether it's novels, manga adaptations, or anime, if you grit your teeth and wade through the pain and stress of about 100 titles, you'll usually find at least one that's actually worth watching.
    Same goes for games.
    127AnonymousSep 1, 2026 02:00
    Re: #124
    Even without those words, if the characters are wearing medieval-fantasy costumes, I'm dropping it at episode zero. Swords, armor — instant dealbreaker.
    131AnonymousSep 1, 2026 02:17
    Re: #124
    Just having those words in there already reeks of generic naro-kei template.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Naro-kei and isekai works originate from web-serial platforms like “Shousetsuka ni Narou,” and whether a title gets an anime adaptation is said to hinge not just on domestic popularity but also on overseas streaming licensing fees and reactions from overseas readers. The ratings data quoted in the thread compares long-running staples like Sazae-san and Doraemon against newer shows, so given the differences in broadcast time slots and viewing environments, that comparison should be taken with some caution. Also, Ubisoft’s Yves Guillemot originally made his comment about trends in the game industry, but the thread applies it directly to the anime industry as-is — it’s worth keeping in mind that production-cost structures and the degree of foreign-capital involvement differ between industries. The back-and-forth about Chinese capital acquiring copyrights also never produced any concrete examples, so no firm conclusion was reached.

    *This article was compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, Geha) thread “Yahoo! News: “It Was Only Natural That Japanese Anime Stopped Being Made For Japanese People”.”

  • Man Beats Sister with Dumbbell After She Knocks Over His Figure, Attempted Murder Arrest — 5ch: ‘Guess She Wanted You to Look at Her, Not the Figure’

    On August 29 in Yamatotakada, Nara Prefecture, caregiver Yohan Homma (26) was arrested on the spot on suspicion of attempted murder for allegedly striking his sister, who is in her 30s and lives with him, on the head and other areas multiple times with an approximately 4kg dumbbell in an attempt to kill her. The sister suffered bleeding from the back of her head and was taken to the hospital, but is said to be conscious. As the thread title suggests, the incident is said to have started when the sister knocked a figure off a shelf in her brother’s room. On 5ch, discussion focused less on the severity of the crime and more on how seriously to take figure-collecting as a hobby, along with prying speculation about the siblings’ living situation.

    A male caregiver has been arrested on the spot on suspicion of attempted murder for allegedly striking his sister’s head and other areas with a dumbbell in an attempt to kill her.

    Yohan Homma (26), of Yamatotakada, Nara Prefecture, is suspected of striking his sister, who is in her 30s and lives with him, on the head and other areas multiple times with an approximately 4kg dumbbell on the morning of the 29th, in an attempt to kill her.

    The sister is bleeding from the back of her head and was taken to the hospital, but is said to be conscious.

    Source: newsdig.tbs.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:57
    Yeah, if you're already grinding as a caregiver and then someone knocks over your figure, of course you'd snap.
    8AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:00
    This family is so cliché it's like something ripped straight out of a drama.
    11AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:02
    First thought was 'you're a grown adult, what are you doing' — but honestly the sister (30s) sounds like the more messed-up one here.
    13AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:03
    Guess she wanted you to look at her, not the figure.
    14AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:04
    The brother's probably single, but whether the sister is married seems like it'll be the real crux of the debate.
    If she's single, being a 30-something 'kodo-oba' (a jab at adult women still living off their parents at home) is a way bigger offense than being an introvert, so she's in no position to mock him.
    But if she's got a husband, then having a 'kodo-oji' brother (the male equivalent — a grown son still mooching at home) around would be a nuisance, so it's no wonder she looks down on him.
    38AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:17
    Hey kodo-oji, don't go snapping over something like this.
    49AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:28
    Re: #38
    Can you not read?
    It literally says right there that he'd been mocked nonstop for years.
    48AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:28
    A sister in her 30s, single…
    Oh no… 😰
    54AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:31
    Re: #48
    Where does it even say she's single?
    72AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:43
    If after living 26 years a figure is the most important thing in your life, your life clearly isn't in a good place.
    He should be thanking his sister for actually caring about her family.
    78AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:48
    Re: #72
    You don't actually know that the figure was the most important thing to him.
    It's probably just that years of pent-up stress happened to explode over that particular figure.
    77AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:48
    A 4kg dumbbell is just not okay though.
    79AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:49
    Re: #77
    So should he have dropped her from a height scaled to match the figure she dropped?
    88AnonymousAug 29, 2026 20:56
    Spending real money on doll-playing at his age is kind of unhinged.
    Which might be exactly why the sister wanted to do something about it — still, it's a sad situation.
    100AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:22
    Re: #88
    After reading 'he'd been mocked for years,' how do you even land on some heartwarming takeaway like that?
    93AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:07
    So a 30-something daughter and a 26-year-old son are both still living off their parents?
    Sounds like the parents raised them wrong somewhere.
    103AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:26
    Re: #93
    Sounds like hell — parenting that never actually gets to end.
    117AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:44
    4kg is such an oddly specific number to begin with.
    Maybe it's labeled as 5kg but actually weighs 4kg once you measure it?
    120AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:46
    Re: #117
    Maybe the bar itself is 1kg, and he had two 500g plates and two 1kg plates loaded on?

    Background and Talking Points

    Attempted murder charges can apply even if the victim doesn’t die, as long as intent to kill and an act carrying out that intent are established; the statutory penalty is imprisonment. Here, the fact that the weapon was an approximately 4kg dumbbell and that the victim was allegedly struck on the head multiple times could weigh into how maliciously the act is judged. On the thread, discussion drifted away from the incident itself toward differing attitudes on figure-collecting as a hobby and the stresses of “kodo-oji/kodo-oba”-style living arrangements with family, with opinions split over speculation about whether the sister is married or single. That said, at the time of reporting, neither party’s marital status, how they came to live together, nor the details of the motive had been made public — so most of the speculation about the family situation in the thread remains just that, speculation. The banter about the figure’s resale value also got tangled up with stories of contemporary art pieces fetching huge sums at auction, which is a separate matter entirely from the actual value of the item knocked over in this case.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Sister: ‘I tried knocking my brother’s figure off the shelf’ →“

  • Famous Writer Asks: ‘OCHA NORMA Is Great, So Why Aren’t They Selling?’ — Doubts Swirl Around Hello! Project

    Music writer Tatsunori Tokushige watched OCHA NORMA perform at the “@JAM” festival and posted on social media wondering, “They’re cute and their performance is great, so why aren’t they selling?” — sparking a debate on 5channel’s Hello! Project board. The thread ranged widely, from the observation that “now that Juice=Juice has become a hit, we can’t use ‘well, it’s Hello! Project’ as an excuse for not selling anymore,” to an analysis citing regional tour attendance figures suggesting “fans outside the big cities are noticing the group’s appeal faster,” to comments pointing at individual members’ performance and the agency’s lack of promotion.

    1AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:36
    Tatsunori Tokushige | Writer/Columnist / Chiikawa Uncle @tatsunoritoku
    @JAM interviews mostly wrapped up, and since it had been a while, I watched OCHA NORMA live — and I really felt Hello! Project is the bedrock of Japanese idols.
    Or maybe the home they should return to. And I think the fact that Hello! Project is that bedrock is a happy thing for Japanese idols.
    11AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:41
    Now that Juice=Juice has actually become a hit,
    it stings that we can't use 'well, it's Hello! Project, of course it won't sell' as an excuse anymore
    17AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:44
    The world's just broken, man
    It's come to this because more and more idiots can't recognize genuinely good stuff and instead praise knockoffs
    Like Nagabuchi Tsuyoshi (veteran Japanese singer-songwriter) said, 'Music is dying in Japan'
    82AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:36
    Re: #17
    That's the same old loser line people have used since ancient times
    It's the crappy agency's fault for not giving them good songs
    22AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:46
    That's why I don't get swept along by the world
    No matter which way the idiots all point, I go my own way
    I keep chasing what I actually like. I don't get carried along by the crowd
    32AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:49
    Re: #22
    Same here, I decide what's good for myself
    42AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:58
    I think Mikuroko is pretty impressive, honestly
    And she's still so young
    47AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:00
    Re: #42
    I only caught the free stream up to the start, but
    Tsuttsun was fine, though Nishizaki seemed a little off to me
    Maybe she was nervous?
    51AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:01
    Re: #47
    Nishizaki's still got some rough edges — lacks stability, I'd say
    Though what she's doing is honestly pretty impressive at times
    194AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:54
    Re: #47
    Nishizaki often seems off at festivals
    But she nails it flawlessly at solo shows
    52AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:01
    There are people who say you don't need an absolute ace, but Juice has Dambara and Inoue — an insane double-ace lineup
    OCHA feels like it's all bench players
    68AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:13
    Re: #52
    Dambara isn't the ace, and honestly she's not even the center
    Sounds like you're struggling with words

    What OCHA is truly worse than Juice at is having a leader — that's the real gap
    Nothing to be done about that now, so they'll just have to take a different approach than Juice

    Pull Yonemura out of center and put the contrasting duo of Kitahara and Kubota in the center instead
    Keep the skill supported by Nishizaki and Tsutsui, and use Yonemura and Saito sparingly at key moments

    Overall performance level isn't really behind Juice's, but OCHA's real problem is what to do about their weak fan service
    202AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:57
    Re: #68
    Vocally it's hard to push Kubota
    56AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:05
    It's way too empty out there
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQ8fbUQbEAAVgPM.jpg
    60AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:09
    The reason is their visuals are basically a bust
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQ93repawAAH-_t.jpg:orig#.jpg
    79AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:34
    Watching everyone freak out now that Juice tickets are impossible to get,
    makes you wonder — does everyone actually want them to succeed?
    91AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:43
    Re: #79
    That's on the crappy agency for booking a tour full of small venues
    Wanting them to sell more is really about wanting them to become more appealing — and if they get more appealing, they'll sell more as a natural result
    That more-appealing = more-selling thing
    If the audience just doubled as things stand now, that'd be nothing but a downside, we don't need that

    We just want to see them looking great — through good songs, cute outfits, media exposure, and smart online strategy
    92AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:43
    They ARE selling, actually
    The fall tour's regional dates don't even need a second round of ticket sales
    Fans outside the big cities are noticing the group's appeal before people in Kanto, Kansai, and Nagoya are

    Probably because regional fans don't get many live shows, so they end up seeing everything that comes through
    In the regions people tend to go 'DD' (idol-fan slang for someone who follows many groups/members instead of just one) and watch a bit of everything
    That's how they notice the group's appeal
    Kanto, Kansai, and Nagoya fans get so many shows they specialize in one group
    So they only watch the group they support, and they're slower to notice OCHA's appeal
    209AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:01
    Re: #92
    There's not much other entertainment out in the regions
    222AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:12
    Re: #209Re: #92

    500 Sapporo Penny Lane 24
    367 Sendai darwin
    367 Sendai darwin
    500 Kanazawa EIGHT HALL
    365 Fukuoka BEAT STATION
    365 Fukuoka BEAT STATION
    350 LIVE HOUSE GEILS (Saga)
    350 LIVE HOUSE GEILS
    450 Hiroshima LIVE VANQUISH
    450 Hiroshima LIVE VANQUISH
    650 Okayama CRAZYMAMA KINGDOM
    650 Okayama CRAZYMAMA KINGDOM

    12 regional shows total, 5,364 attendees — average of 447 per show
    93AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48


    96AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:49
    Re: #91
    'We just want to see them looking great — through good songs, cute outfits, media exposure, and smart online strategy'
    Then just go watch Kawara Lab
    Why demand that from Hello! Project?
    102AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:53
    Re: #96
    Because I'm a fan of a specific member
    111AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:05
    I watched the Ai:Life video but everyone looked the same to me, couldn't tell them apart
    Do people tell them apart by color?
    131AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:32
    Re: #111
    Color and height, yeah
    132AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:32
    Good thing the old-school 'wolf' fanboys (veteran, hardcore Morning Musume fan slang) don't like her lol
    134AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:34
    Re: #132
    The wolf fanboys are always astroturfing though
    133AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:33
    They're blessed with good songs
    OCHA gets handed a ton of songs that would normally go to Juice, but their lack of singing skill turns them into duds
    140AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:40
    Re: #133
    Which songs do you think they're blessed with? Seriously
    135AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:35
    Can't make out the lyrics, they should sing more carefully
    213AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:04
    Re: #135
    That's actually gotten better
    145AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:48
    Sometimes I wonder if the agency even wants to sell them
    It gives off this vibe of a bunch of old guys just coasting along

    Like, on X someone posted something like:
    'Now that the Tsunku♂ drama got so much attention, why isn't the agency doing anything? Unbelievable for this day and age'

    Like, why not put out the Tokisora video as the last scratch-vocal track Tsunku♂ ever recorded, or something
    Do literally anything, they said

    And yeah, that's exactly right
    149AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:51
    Re: #145
    Exactly this

    Normally you'd put up Morning Musume live footage
    Juice should've put up 'Romance no Tochuu' too
    190AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:48
    Live, 'Gakkou' and 'Ravidavi' are the best
    Same with 'Chacha Shin' and 'Uchuu Kibo' and 'Koi Kura'
    Anyone calling the songs crap is just an old geezer lol
    199AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:56
    Re: #190
    They're all crap though
    I get that the members are working hard singing and hyping it up, but still
    206AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:00
    Re: #190
    Even as a joke that's harsh lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    OCHA NORMA joined Hello! Project in 2021. While their labelmate Juice=Juice has grown so popular this year that tickets have become a scramble, OCHA NORMA’s shows at multi-act festivals like @JAM have continued to have plenty of empty seats. The thread was split on the cause: some pointed to performance-side issues like members’ singing ability and the lack of a leader, while others pointed to promotion-side issues like the agency’s weak use of social media and its failure to share archival footage. One post laid out concrete attendance figures for the fall tour’s 12 regional shows (averaging 447 people), and offered the analysis that fans outside the big cities — where tickets are easier to get — end up seeing a wider variety of groups and so notice OCHA NORMA’s appeal more easily. It’s worth noting that “selling well” can mean several different things — sold-out tickets, attendance numbers, music sales, or social media buzz — and the thread wasn’t always consistent about which one it meant.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Hello! Project board) thread “Famous writer: ‘I watched OCHA NORMA’s stage at @JAM — they’re cute and their performance is great, so why aren’t they selling? Makes me question Hello! Project’.”

  • “Wasn’t Madoka Magica a Social Phenomenon Anime?” — 5ch Debates the Box-Office Gap With Chiikawa

    A thread titled “Hey, wasn’t ‘Madoka Magica’ supposed to be an anime that caused a social phenomenon?” went up on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (general live-commentary) board. It was sparked by a post noting that the new Madoka Magica movie’s box office on day two was falling short of the “Chiikawa” movie’s. The debate over Madoka’s reputation as a “social phenomenon” back when it aired on TV in 2011 split posters into two camps: those who argued the frenzy at the time was overstated, and those who defended the depth of its content. The discussion spread to comparisons with “The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya,” “Evangelion,” and “Attack on Titan,” turning into a broader argument over what the phrase “social phenomenon” actually means.

    1AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:12
    It's losing to Chiikawa on day two, huh
    2AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:13
    Chiikawa is a genuine social phenomenon happening right now
    Bet Chiikawa won't be popular either if they make a movie sequel 15 years from now
    4AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:13
    Re: #2
    Quit being jealous of Chiikawa
    8AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:14
    Re: #2
    When did Madoka Magica (lol) ever sell at Chiikawa's level?
    5AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:13
    A late-night TV slot show like that is going for the long game anyway
    Chiikawa's the instant-explosion type
    10AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:14
    Re: #5
    Quit being jealous of Chiikawa
    11AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:15
    It's frustrating, honestly
    Madoka Magica's content is way deeper
    but it's too deep to reach women and kids
    13AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:16
    Re: #11
    Isn't that what Pretty Cure is for?
    16AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:16
    Re: #11
    You don't know about the darkness in creator Nagano's work? (Chiikawa's author is known for surprisingly dark undertones)
    19AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:17
    Re: #11
    Have you actually watched Chiikawa properly?
    Don't you analyze it too?
    20AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:17
    The TV series was good, but honestly the movie…
    24AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:19
    Re: #20
    Even the TV finale had me going 'wait, that's it?'
    23AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:18
    Nothing's less reliable than a "social phenomenon (lol)" from that era
    Same goes for Madoka, same goes for Haruhi
    32AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:22
    Re: #23
    Feel that
    I watched both all the way through and still don't get what drew otaku to them so hard
    33AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:23
    Re: #28
    Yeah, so I got recommended it, watched episode 1 through the finale, and here's my honest take
    Watched the whole season, my rating's about a B-, and that's the "social phenomenon"? A social phenomenon within otaku circles, lmao. No wonder otaku get called creepy
    52AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:31
    Re: #33
    Typing in a rush and typo'd it, lol
    35AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:23
    Well, I heard it's about as boring as [Evangelion] Q…
    54AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:33
    Re: #35
    That's overstating it
    It's not that bad
    36AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:25
    Re: #32
    For Haruhi, Kyoto Animation's rock-solid art was a big part of it
    Content-wise it's basically a Heisei-era Urusei Yatsura
    53AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:32
    Re: #36
    The stealth marketing on that one was brutal though
    42AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:27
    Haruhi's basically Evangelion, right
    Haruhi = Asuka, Nagato = Rei
    Toss in some vague mysteries and otaku will do the analyzing for you
    43AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:28
    Re: #42
    It's not something people still rewatch today like Eva, so it just feels like a fad from back then
    55AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:33
    Re: #42
    Not sure how Haruhi would've turned out if they'd skipped Endless Eight
    but that's what blew up in their face
    51AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:31
    Madoka Magica's Evangelion too
    Load it up with that mystery-heavy sekai-kei stuff and otaku eat it right up
    57AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:34
    Re: #51
    Both Madoka and Haruhi are like two cycles out of date on the sekai-kei formula by now, but Haruhi's a whole generation older than Madoka
    It's a transitional-era work, so watching it now the awkwardness wins out
    58AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:34
    10 billion yen is such a low bar, so why does Madoka Magica cap out around 3 billion yen or so?
    Seriously, even Chainsaw Man, whose anime flopped, could clear that low bar
    Is the promotion budget really that different between Jump titles and everything else?
    61AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:35
    Re: #58
    Once you're used to watching anime you stop noticing it, but there's definitely a gap between heavy otaku-smell and light otaku-smell
    64AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:36
    Re: #58
    Only 25 Japanese films have ever topped 10 billion yen and you're calling that bar low, lol
    70AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:39
    Re: #58
    Calling Chainsaw Man a flop is honestly getting way too poisoned by one corner of the internet
    Most viewers don't even know season 1 got torn apart
    68AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:39
    I don't remember it having that much stealth marketing, but it came too late, and the previous movie wasn't exactly the kind of content that left you excited for more
    71AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:40
    Re: #68
    Around 2011 it really was huge
    73AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:41
    Madoka Magica feels like something you'd want to watch around winter
    It's not exactly a summer-vacation movie
    79AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:44
    Re: #73
    Kind of get that
    82AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:44
    Chiikawa and Madoka Magica both suck, so fight harder
    91AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:51
    It's nowhere near the level of Attack on Titan or Death Note even
    Feels like Madoka's stealth marketing got completely steamrolled by Attack on Titan, and by the time the movie came out it had already faded into the background
    96AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:54
    Re: #91
    Attack on Titan box office: 1.5 billion yen 😭
    92AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:52
    Madoka was a hit because of its novel premise that even a girl with a bad personality could become a magical girl
    Up to that point, every magical girl show required a pure heart to transform
    115AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:07
    Re: #92
    It got talked about because of the Mami scene, right? (the shocking episode-3 death)
    93AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:52
    Back then, "social phenomenon" just meant a late-night otaku anime becoming somewhat known to the general public
    That sense got lost once streaming spread and it became completely normal for regular people to watch late-night anime at all
    97AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:56
    Re: #93
    It's kind of a self-proclaimed "social phenomenon," honestly
    Even before Madoka there was Haruhi, and some of those were even worse — with even less of a real social-phenomenon feel

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The term “social phenomenon” was widely applied to late-night anime from the late 2000s through the early 2010s, but back then it wasn’t measured by TV ratings or box office — it usually referred to DVD/BD sales, merchandise rollout, and the buzz of online analysis and fan works. Now that streaming has made it routine for the general public to watch late-night anime, the very yardstick for what counts as “buzz” has shifted. What split opinion in the thread was whether it’s fair to judge an older work by “today’s yardstick” of theatrical box office — pitting those who praised the depth of the content against those who argued the fervor at the time was itself exaggerated. Note that the box-office figures and attendance numbers cited in the thread are posters’ own recollections or claims, and may not match official tallies.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Hey, wasn’t ‘Madoka Magica’ supposed to be an anime that caused a social phenomenon?.”

  • BABYMETAL’s Overseas Fanbase Concentrated in Latin America (31%) and North America (25%) — Other J-Pop Skews Heavily East Asian

    A thread on 5ch (Hello! Project board) introduced data showing that BABYMETAL’s overseas listening patterns differ from other J-POP artists. Six acts — King Gnu, YOASOBI, Vaundy, Official HIGE DANDism, Mrs. GREEN APPLE, and Kenshi Yonezu — fall into a “Korea/Taiwan-concentrated” category, where an average of 52.7% of their overseas streams come from East Asia. Seven acts — Ado, Creepy Nuts, LiSA, ONE OK ROCK, XG, and Fujii Kaze — fall into a “globally distributed” category, streamed widely across Southeast Asia (26%), Latin America (20%), and East Asia (19%). BABYMETAL, by contrast, was singled out as clearly different from the other 13 acts, falling into a “Western-oriented” category with Latin America at 31%, North America at 25%, and Western Europe at 20% — showing a strikingly high share of listeners from Europe and the Americas.

    1AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:53
    They say "popular overseas," but isn't the nature of that popularity different?
    BABYMETAL: in the West, it's actual local Western fans turning out.
    Everyone else: even in the West, it's mostly Asian audiences turning out.
    3AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:54
    "Korea/Taiwan-concentrated type"
    King Gnu, YOASOBI, Vaundy, Official HIGE DANDism, Mrs. GREEN APPLE, Kenshi Yonezu, and others (6 acts)
    An average of 52.7% of overseas streams are concentrated in East Asia, with Korean and Taiwanese listeners making up the bulk of overseas listening

    "Globally distributed type"
    Ado, Creepy Nuts, LiSA, ONE OK ROCK, XG, Fujii Kaze, and others (7 acts)
    Streamed widely — Southeast Asia 26%, Latin America 20%, East Asia 19% — though the Asia-region share still runs a bit high

    "Western-oriented type"
    BABYMETAL
    Latin America 31%, North America 25%, Western Europe 20%, etc.
    Clearly different from the other 13 acts, with overwhelmingly heavy listening from Europe, North/Central America, and South America

    https://hstorage.jp/dl/MdRDlpLB9eEd.png

    Background and Talking Points

    No source is explicitly cited, but the content suggests this is an analysis based on the regional breakdown of listeners on streaming platforms like Spotify. What stands out is that it defines “overseas popularity” not by raw play counts but by regional distribution — and the finding that King Gnu, YOASOBI, and Kenshi Yonezu skew heavily toward East Asia, while BABYMETAL has built a distinct fanbase in the West through rock and metal festivals over the years, lines up with the group’s known trajectory. That said, the thread never verifies the source or the methodology behind the numbers, so they should be read with some caution. It’s an easy point to miss: what “popular overseas” actually means varies a lot by region depending on the artist. What this data suggests is that even acts lumped together as “going overseas” can end up being heard in very different regions depending on genre and promotional approach.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “The Difference Between BABYMETAL’s Overseas Popularity and Other J-POP/K-POP Acts’ Overseas Popularity, Part 31“.

  • Living alone on a pension runs ¥29,980 short every month — 5ch: “Guess you don’t need ¥20 million for retirement after all”

    According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications’ household survey, single-person households aged 65 and over with no job bring in ¥131,456 in income but spend ¥161,435, leaving a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980. Pension income alone can’t cover living costs, meaning the gap has to be filled by drawing down savings. The thread kicked off with the question “Would ¥20 million in savings be enough?” and split into two camps — those worried about rising prices and ballooning medical costs, and those arguing that combining welfare benefits with public housing makes it surprisingly manageable — before spiraling into a broader debate about where to live in retirement.

    For single-person households aged 65 and over with no job, income came to ¥131,456 against spending of ¥161,435 — a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980.

    Even living alone, pension income alone doesn’t cover expenses, according to the calculations. The gap has to be made up from savings.

    This article breaks down the household budget for single-person households, the 2026 fiscal year pension amounts, and rough pension guidelines by life course.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    20AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:45
    Could ¥20 million in savings make it work?
    23AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:47
    Re: #20
    Sure, if you're planning to die around 75.
    25AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48
    Re: #20
    At that rate it's a no-go… can't keep up with rising prices.
    27AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48
    Re: #20
    Depends on how much pension you get, whether you own or rent, apartment or house — hard to say. But if you're prepared to pull a solo "Ballad of Narayama" (the old folk-tale about carrying elderly relatives off to die) once you need nursing care, you might not need much at all.
    33AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:54
    Is there actually any relief system for people on low pensions right now?
    If you have zero pension at all, welfare ("namapo," slang for seikatsu hogo/livelihood protection) bails you out completely, and medical care is free too, right?
    So say someone gets only about ¥70k a month from the national pension — can they apply for the difference up to the welfare cap, since ¥70k isn't enough to live on?
    If welfare pays out ¥130k a month, can you just apply for the ¥60k difference between that and your ¥70k pension? No way the ward office approves that.
    Bottom line: people who paid their pension premiums diligently end up worse off than the guys who never paid a dime and are on full welfare.
    48AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:17
    Re: #33
    If your pension isn't enough you can qualify for welfare, but there are restrictions if you have savings, insurance, or own a home. If you're completely broke, you'll get it.
    134AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:19
    Re: #33
    Welfare isn't ¥130k. It can add up to that much if you have dependents, but for a single person it's lower, more like ¥70k I think.
    166AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:34
    Re: #33
    Welfare pays out the difference from your income. If you're already getting a pension, the amount the government has to pay is smaller, so it's easier to get approved.
    64AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:50
    Once your savings run out, just apply for welfare to cover the shortfall right away. That's why the right move is to live somewhere cheap to rent so moving isn't a burden.
    70AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:17
    Re: #64
    If you can even rent one.
    71AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:22
    Re: #70

    Already thought of that — I'm living in a 3DK city-run housing unit for ¥21,000 a month. It's a public housing complex, so the rent's dirt cheap.
    73AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:27
    Re: #71
    City housing really is cheap, huh. Lots of Toyota Alphards in the parking lot though (a pricey minivan — implying not-so-needy residents).
    75AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:34
    Re: #71
    Danchi housing complexes are a dead end once your legs give out. Small is fine — a convenient 1K apartment is the best bet for old age. You want a supermarket, bus, subway, and clinic all within a 5-minute walk.
    77AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:36
    Watching my parents, a single-story house is the way to go. You stop being able to climb stairs.
    84AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:45
    Re: #77
    My parents blew their retirement payout on a fancy second house right when they retired, and within 15 years they couldn't get upstairs anymore. The second floor became storage and a guest room for when the grandkids visited — but now the grandkids don't even come anymore, so it's just turned into dead insulated space. They went with a traditional Japanese-style design, so of course it's full of steps and level changes everywhere. Never bothered making it barrier-free. Once they're on a cane or walker, they're stuck.

    Well, they've got money and stocks so they could just move into a senior care residence (a "sa-ko-jū," service-supported housing for the elderly), but they're so attached to the house who knows what'll happen.
    85AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:45
    Re: #77
    Build a single-story house today and you'll get wrecked by flooding.
    82AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:44
    Re: #75
    If you talk to the housing management center, you can move from an upper floor to a lower floor within the same complex. Though you need a valid reason — like "65 or older with bad legs" lol.
    100AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:57
    Re: #82
    Wow, that's a nice deal.
    108AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:59
    Re: #100
    Only works if there's a vacant unit on a lower floor in the complex. I'm on the 4th floor right now, but it's no big deal — I just think of it as leg training lol.
    88AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:48
    Re: #85
    Just check the hazard map before you build.
    91AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:51
    Re: #88
    Though the trendy "inland flooding" these days doesn't care about hazard maps.
    98AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:55
    Re: #88
    Land in the "safe zone" on hazard maps is pricey~. Gonna build on some unpopular hilltop? How do you even get groceries then? What about landslides? Isn't a two-story house still the safer bet?
    92AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:52
    Re: #89
    It's gotten easier for singles to get in too — at least for an unpopular complex like mine, a 5-story mid-rise with no elevator. Apparently it's been slowly gaining popularity lately, though, as a sleeper pick for dirt-cheap rent since nobody else wants it. And since it's a 3DK, it's cheap but spacious and luxurious lol.
    107AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:59
    Re: #92
    You don't know about that "danchi hell" for old folks — run-down and filthy, unable to leave the room under your own power in old age, relying only on online grocery delivery, can't afford a home helper, too hard to get to the hospital, and the only time you leave the room is when you die? If you don't have a spouse, kids, or volunteers to help you when it counts, you're screwed. And you don't seem like the type to socialize through the neighborhood association anyway.
    113AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:03
    Re: #107
    There's the local elder-care support center, so being single should be fine, no?
    114AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:03
    Re: #107
    I'm not desperate to live long anyway. Not planning to cling to this "hell-sphere — Earth for short" (a pun on 地獄球/jigoku-kyū, "hell ball," sounding like 地球/chikyū, "Earth"). But I'm not about to kill myself for an isekai reincarnation either (the anime trope of dying and being reborn in another world).
    115AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:04
    If a couple retires at 60 with a ¥30 million retirement payout, there's no problem, right?
    119AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:06
    Re: #115
    The wife files for divorce the second the retirement payout lands.
    120AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:07
    Re: #115
    Going by the thread title you'd need ¥2 million a year — isn't that rough?
    157AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:57
    I'm only enrolled in the national pension — how am I supposed to live?
    163AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:23
    Re: #157
    If you're poor, there's only one option: apply for dirt-cheap public housing as early as possible and lock it down. Then the moment your living funds run short, apply for welfare immediately!! If you apply for welfare first and then apply for housing, you risk not making it in time for the move — it ends up taking anywhere from 3 months to half a year no matter what!!
    174AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:22
    You're living too lavishly. ¥20k food, ¥40k housing, ¥20k utilities, ¥20k internet and misc — that's ¥100k, you can live on that. Just deal with illness through insured treatment.
    175AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:25
    Re: #174
    Are you actually living on that?
    178AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:32
    Re: #174
    You need at least ¥30k a month just for booze and cigarettes.
    193AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:14
    If you're ¥30k in the red every month, that's ¥360k a year in the red.
    After 10 years, at 75, you're ¥3.6 million in the red.
    After 20 years, at 85, you're ¥7.2 million in the red.
    After 30 years, at 95, you're ¥10.8 million in the red.
    After 40 years, at 105, you're ¥14.4 million in the red.

    Guess you really don't need ¥20 million for retirement after all.
    195AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:19
    Re: #193
    People who actually need ¥20 million-plus for retirement are basically either renting an expensive private apartment or own their own home, I'd guess.
    218AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:51
    Re: #193
    Get sick and hospitalized and the costs blow up. My mother, over 80, was hospitalized this year — the medical bill came to ¥500k for April/May combined and ¥400k for June, but with the high-cost medical care subsidy it came down to ¥35,000 for April and ¥25,000 for May. Though, well, we're well-off.
    222AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:59
    Re: #221
    Once that money runs dry, next move: apply for welfare (´・ω・`). Already in public housing with dirt-cheap rent at ¥21,000, too old for job openings, no family to rely on — I'll just apply lol.
    223AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:01
    Re: #222
    They'll probably tell you to keep working until 62.
    224AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:03
    Getting into public housing would be great, but the noise and the strict cleaning duty rules seem like a pain.
    226AnonymousAug 31, 2026 04:08
    Re: #223
    These days no company easily hires even a 50-year-old. Maybe if you're an immediately-useful, top-tier worker.
    Re: #224
    At least in my complex, the only noise is stuff from outside — nothing major. And the cleaning duty is just once a month, Sunday 10am, about an hour. If that's the price for living on ¥20-something thousand a month, that's lucky lol.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Figures like this — pensions alone not being enough — come from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications’ annual household survey, and follow on from the “¥20 million retirement problem” that made headlines in 2019. This month’s ¥29,980 shortfall is just one example, and it’s easy to misunderstand: the actual amount needed varies enormously depending on whether the household is single, owns or rents, and has medical expenses. Opinions in the thread split between those who think savings plus pension are enough to get by and those who see it as tough once rising prices and nursing-care costs are factored in. Later in the thread, the discussion shifted to concrete ways to cover the shortfall, such as the conditions for receiving welfare benefits or moving to cheaper public housing. Some pointed out that, because welfare is paid out to cover the gap between income and a set benchmark, having a pension already can actually make the application easier to get approved.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Pensions and Household Finances] Single-person households aged 65+ with no job run a monthly shortfall of ¥29,980. Monthly spending is ¥161,435.”

  • Morning Musume. ’14 Members Post on SNS — Is a “Dream One-For” Reunion Coming for the 30th Anniversary?

    After Nippon TV’s special “Tsunku♂ and the Legendary Morning Musume. ’14” aired, it became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello!Project board that nearly all the members of the ’14 lineup — known as the “One-For Members,” including Sayumi Michishige and Riho Sayashi — posted on social media. Since next year marks Morning Musume.’s 30th anniversary, there’s precedent for this: “Dream Morning Musume.” reunited for the 10th anniversary, “Pucchi Moni” and “Mini Moni.” for the 20th, and “W” for the 25th. While some in the thread are hoping for a “Dream One-For” reunion, opinions split over who should headline a revival project like past “Dreams” units, and over how well the ’14 generation’s songs actually hold up.

    1AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:57
    Next year is Morning Musume.'s 30th anniversary, after all
    Wonder if this is really gonna happen
    2AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:57
    Well, in the end, life's all about luck, isn't it.
    5AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:59
    Hello!Project doesn't do that kind of thing.
    13AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:02
    Re: #5
    Apparently for the 10th anniversary,
    the legendary golden-era Morning Musume. came back as Dream Morning Musume.

    For the 20th anniversary,
    the legendary Pucchi Moni, Mini Moni., Tanpopo, and Biyuuden

    For the 25th anniversary,
    the legendary W

    came back.
    15AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:02
    Dreams. fails every time they try it, so they don't need to bother.
    And honestly, the moment Abe's involved it just turns into the "Abe Show," which makes it boring as hell.
    22AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:07
    Re: #15
    The early Dreams centered on Abe
    The peak-era Dreams centered on Goto
    The golden Dreams centered on the 4th gen
    The platinum Dreams centered on Takahashi/Tanaka
    The colorful Dreams centered on Tanaka/Sayashi
    The One-For Dreams centered on Michishige/Sayashi
    The Fukumura Dreams centered on Fukumura/Sato/Oda

    That's how many there've been.
    32AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:17
    A Michishige otaku who stans Panda, Yugeta, and Moa and uses "Pore."
    42AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:26
    Re: #32
    Whoa! There are actually people out there who stan all three of these people 🫢
    I wonder if there's some common thread between them?
    34AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:18

    37AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:19
    Fukumura, Sato, Ishida, Oda, Ikuta, Kudo, Iikubo

    That's just a lineup you could pull off for an M-line Special.
    What even is "Dream" supposed to mean here?
    41AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:24
    Re: #37
    Even that would already be plenty tear-jerking as a Dream lineup, but
    back when One-For broke through and was all over TV, and in that legendary au commercial —

    weren't Michishige and Sayashi the leads?
    If those two joined in too, you'd get an even more tear-jerking Dream lineup, don't you think?
    39AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:22
    51AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:37
    Honestly, for the 40th anniversary, a "Dream Juice" seems more realistic.
    Musume.'s golden-era members are losing their drawing power too, and if they don't get a hit song or a breakout star, it's gonna be rough.
    65AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:51
    Re: #51
    Dream Juice=Juice, I love it.
    Thirteen years from now:
    Mifu Kawashima (31)
    Hisaki Ebata (32)
    Sakura Ishiyama (35)
    Nia Hayashi (28)
    Ria Matsunaga (34)

    The current golden-era Juice=Juice already has top-tier visuals by Hello!Project standards, and that age range is exactly when women hit peak, next-level beauty — it's gonna be seriously insane.
    71AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:05
    Re: #65
    I've said this like a thousand trillion times already, but
    the reason "Pore" never includes Reirei Inoue's name at times like this
    is that, like Iikubo's been saying forever, that person's visuals are on a level-different, level-different, level-different-level-different-level-different-level-different-level-different level ("レベチ," fan slang for "different level," repeated for emphasis) — so it's such an obvious given that she doesn't even get listed.
    52AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:39
    Chayu
    58AnonymousAug 30, 2026 21:48


    69AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:01
    Morning Musume.'s 30th anniversary is still more than a year off, so this doesn't even matter yet.
    70AnonymousAug 30, 2026 22:03
    '14 New York. Sakura Oda
    https://ameblo.jp/morningmusume-10ki/entry-12977267059.html
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260830/21/morningmusume-10ki/f9/6e/j/o1080081015817311049.jpg
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260830/21/morningmusume-10ki/32/b8/j/o1080081015817311051.jpg
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260830/21/morningmusume-10ki/09/35/j/o1080081015817313475.jpg
    79AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:18
    Re: #70
    Leader Michishige,
    Sayashi and Ishida as the two-top plus Oda as the extra one —
    that was the most balanced era, honestly.
    113AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:51
    What do you mean "Sato comes across well"?
    Sato was the one going on about "Tsunku-san, Tsunku-san" more than anyone — that's a stretch if I've ever seen one.
    120AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:54
    Re: #113
    LOL, a One-For Member fan is getting mad
    Can you not read? It says she didn't jump on the SNS bandwagon lol
    125AnonymousAug 30, 2026 23:59
    Re: #113
    What does going on about Tsunku have to do with pushing the One-For angle? '14 fans are still seriously bitter about Sato, huh.
    They're all has-beens at this point anyway.
    157AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:10
    If they called up Goto, Tsuji, Kago, Michishige, and Sayashi, could they actually fill Yokohama Arena?
    164AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:13
    Re: #157
    Realistically, that lineup would draw the biggest crowd, yeah.
    166AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:14
    Re: #157
    Sayashi being in that lineup feels really off.
    She's not exactly a legend or a rarity, after all.
    192AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:35
    There are people on X saying the '14 era is nothing but great songs, but personally I don't get that at all either.
    Still, the fact that they keep surviving in the setlist probably means a lot of fans are behind them.
    198AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:42
    Re: #192
    These days the Ookami ("wolves," fan slang for Morning Musume. fans) fanbase is basically a gathering spot for a minority with nowhere else to go.
    199AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:43
    Re: #192
    Seriously, I get that.
    WIL is strong, sure, but then you've got stuff like TIKI BUN and Password that are rock bottom.
    I'm just not into the Tsunku songs from '14, '15, and '18.
    202AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:51
    Re: #192
    That's the period when EDM suddenly gave them a boost in momentum.
    219AnonymousAug 31, 2026 00:59
    For the OGs, all you need is Sayashi and Oda — don't need anyone else.
    222AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:00
    Re: #219
    Works for me.
    Let the two of them hype up the current Morning Musume. lineup.
    227AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:10
    Re: #219
    As someone with a favorite among the One-For Members, I'd honestly appreciate that.
    Package those two as a set and leave my favorite out of it, please.
    228AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:13
    233AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:57
    Re: #228
    Seeing this, it really looks like Nonaka is planning to still be around for the 30th anniversary.
    She's Kawabe's favorite member, after all.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Morning Musume. has a history of forming reunion units of past members for each anniversary. “Dream Morning Musume.” for the 10th anniversary, “Pucchi Moni,” “Mini Moni.,” “Tanpopo,” and “Biyuuden” for the 20th, and “W” for the 25th are the precedents. Since next year marks the group’s 30th anniversary, there’s talk of hoping for a “Dream One-For” built around the ’14 lineup (known as the “One-For Members,” a generation centered on Sayumi Michishige and Riho Sayashi, among others). The thread split mainly over two points: first, whether a reunion project should happen at all (the center of past “Dreams” projects has shifted generation by generation — from Natsumi Abe, to Maki Goto, to Michishige/Sayashi, to Mizuki Fukumura — so opinions varied depending on who’d be at the center next); and second, how to rate the ’14 generation’s songs themselves (some called the EDM-heavy lineup “nothing but great tracks,” while others said they “just don’t click”). Worth noting: “One-For” is a fan nickname, and as of this article there’s been no official announcement of an actual 30th-anniversary project.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Project board) thread “After yesterday’s Nippon TV special ‘Tsunku♂ and the Legendary Morning Musume. ’14’ — nearly all the One-For Members posted on SNS, but could a Dream One-For really happen next year?“

  • Shin Miidera, 16, Bursts Onto the J1 Scene — Former Japan International: ‘It’s Like When Yamal Emerged at Barça’

    Shin Miidera, a 16-year-old playing for Yokohama F. Marinos, is drawing attention after scoring what was then the youngest-ever J1 goal at age 15 — a feat that led a former Japan national team player to compare him to “the feeling when Yamal emerged at Barça.” In a thread on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, some praised how physically developed he already is for his age, while others urged caution, noting that many so-called “child prodigies” have gone on to stall out. Posters also debated how he compares to Takefusa Kubo and when he might eventually move abroad.

    The J.League switched to a fall-to-spring season format starting this year.

    Amid that shift, a new star has emerged in J1, bringing a fresh breath of energy to the league.

    That player is Shin Miidera of Yokohama F. Marinos.

    Source: qoly.jp / Original article here

    11AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:54
    Apparently Miidera's in the starting XI because his physical stats within the team are just that high.
    12AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:54
    How does he compare to Kubo Takefusa at 16??
    95AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:07
    Re: #12
    Physically, this guy's way better.
    Shooting power too.
    111AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:10
    Re: #12
    Kubo's more the Morimoto type, if anything.
    Miidera and Yamal aren't really comparable, I don't think.
    13AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:54
    A pro sport where a 16-year-old can already hold his own — how low is the level, honestly. No wonder even short guys can make it 🤣
    16AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:56
    Re: #13
    He's just an early peaker.
    In baseball's case, guys like that just never make it pro.
    18AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:57
    Re: #13
    Showing this much of your hand as a high schooler this early just means teams will figure out how to shut you down fast.
    Pros have seen that type more times than they can count.
    23AnonymousAug 31, 2026 20:58
    Re: #13
    He got wrecked by Matsuzaka, a rookie fresh out of high school, though lol
    He'd have gotten wrecked in his first and second year of high school too — give it a rest, baseball fanboy (ペロやきう, 5ch slang mocking overly defensive baseball fans).
    28AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:09
    Soccer's the kind of sport where a guy called a prodigy is playing in the second division — or already retired — five years later. Seriously, there's no telling how it'll go.
    40AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:17
    Re: #28
    Same with classical musicians —
    you never know if a child prodigy will still be great as an adult.
    It's what happens after 18 that really matters.
    37AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:15
    Miidera doesn't have much room to grow left, though — right now it's just that he's already got the physicality.
    53AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:27
    Re: #37
    That was my impression too —
    for a 16-year-old, his physicality holds up in J1, but I didn't get the sense he's freakishly fast or has otherworldly ball touch or a really powerful shot.
    38AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:16
    He's already succeeding against top-tier J1 opposition, so as far as development goes, this is already a success. That's a different level from doing well against small-town high schoolers your own age, like in baseball.

    High school baseball's participant numbers and level are in freefall, and they're force-feeding hype into it anyway, so the whole star-making system just doesn't work anymore.
    Baseball otaku (焼き豚, a slur for diehard baseball fans) should worry about their own house.
    59AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:35
    Re: #44
    You can't transfer abroad until you're 18.

    Re: #38
    And it wasn't Marinos who developed him —
    it was Zaizen, the guy Nakata himself said was the best.
    42AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:19
    Already treating him like a prodigy… the crappy media never changes, always so blatant about manufacturing stars. Hope he doesn't get carried away and turn arrogant from all the hype.
    44AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:20
    He'll be transferring abroad by next year, I bet.
    45AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:20
    Yeah, going abroad too young just doesn't work out. Japanese players should stay domestic until 22.
    81AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:08
    Re: #45
    Because the window where it works for you is short.
    48AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:22
    Yamal's grown way too much
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HM60SosXUAALl6Y.jpg
    65AnonymousAug 31, 2026 21:40
    Re: #48
    Why does he look like a completely different person lol
    76AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:01
    Re: #48
    Did he seriously grow 10cm?
    77AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:01
    Re: #53
    Being 16 means he's still at an age where his height can keep growing and his physicality is only just starting to really develop.
    The Miidera we're seeing now is still just ver1.0.
    100AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:33
    Re: #77
    If you want him to keep developing as a winger, it's actually better if his height stops within a few more centimeters.
    Neymar and Salah are 175cm, Vinicius and Junya Ito are 176cm, Mbappé, Dembélé, and Mitoma are 178cm.
    Wingers who get too tall also get longer legs, which makes it harder to pull off those quick, small-step dribbles.
    78AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:04
    Morimoto already retired? What went wrong for him?
    94AnonymousAug 31, 2026 23:05
    Re: #78
    Tore his ACL while playing in Serie A.
    84AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:10
    Re: #23
    Ichiro struck out 4 times, after all.
    Guess people forget the inconvenient stuff fast.
    86AnonymousAug 31, 2026 22:16
    Re: #84
    To answer seriously: 3 strikeouts and 1 walk in 4 plate appearances.
    106AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:00
    Re: #100
    Miidera reminds me less of a pure dribbler and more of a high-soccer-IQ type like Barça's Raphinha.
    Even the guy he says he respects, Foden, isn't really a dribbler either.
    Shooting, passing, positioning, receiving and laying it off, movement off the ball, dribble line selection, defensive work — he's solid across the board, and he covers a lot of the pitch too.
    109AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:05
    Re: #106
    Foden's a dribbler though.
    Not a wide attacker, but he's a dribbler who can hold the ball in tight spaces.
    108AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:04
    What's impressive about Miidera isn't individual skill — it's how physically complete he already is for his age. In other words, what we're seeing right now is basically the finished product. Going forward, he'll probably just keep doing what he's already capable of doing now.
    112AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:14
    Re: #108
    Speed isn't his weapon, so if he adds more physicality he could probably play forward too.

    And above all, his goal-scoring instinct is fantastic 👏
    118AnonymousSep 1, 2026 00:46
    Re: #95
    Kubo's got the better shot, honestly.
    Something about him was on another level from around this age through his late teens.
    122AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:03
    Re: #118
    Nice joke 🤪
    121AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:00
    So we're calling him the "Japanese Yamal," is that settled?
    124AnonymousSep 1, 2026 01:06
    Re: #121
    More like a Harry Kane type, if anything?
    He was a midfielder when he was young too.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    The J.League shifted to a fall-to-spring season this year, which makes it easy for a mid-season breakout like Miidera’s to draw extra attention. Where opinions split in the thread was over how to read his “physical completeness.” Some saw the fact that he already holds his own physically in J1 for his age as proof of future potential, while others firmly maintained that he’s simply showing everything he’s got right now, with little room left to grow. Posters also pointed to past cases like Takayuki Morimoto, who retired young after an injury in Serie A, as a reminder that being called a prodigy is no guarantee of future success. Comparisons with Takefusa Kubo came up too, though it’s worth noting their playing styles differ enough that a simple better-or-worse comparison doesn’t quite hold. And as always in these kinds of threads, opinions diverged over the right age for Japanese players to move abroad.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] 16-Year-Old Prodigy Shin Miidera Stuns Even a Former Japan International With Youngest-Ever Goal at 15 — “It’s Like When Yamal Emerged at Barça”.”

  • Young People Push Back on ‘Experience Over Savings’ Advice: 5ch Says ‘Before Your Senses Dull’

    In response to the well-worn advice that “in your youth, you should prioritize experiences you can only have now over savings and investing,” a thread on 5ch saw young posters push back, arguing that “there’s no spare money to use in the first place.” The median income for full-time employees is said to be 3.84 million yen, translating to roughly 250,000 yen take-home per month — and some calculated that setting aside 100,000 yen a month for savings would leave living standards uncomfortably tight. On the other hand, there were voices favoring experience, arguing that “building earning power matters more for maximizing your assets” and “you won’t be able to enjoy fancy meat or trips abroad once you’re older.” Opinions split over whether to prioritize investing or experiences. The discussion further branched into a debate over whether index investing really never loses principal.

    1AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:41
    No bait intended, but what experiences can you really only have while you're young? I'm 26 now, heading into my late twenties, and this year I actually saved up and went on a proper trip, but other than that I've just been saving and investing like normal. I figured maybe I should spend a bit more, but honestly there's not much I actually want to do — if I bought everything I wanted and did everything I wanted, I feel like I'd be satisfied with something like 200,000 yen.
    4AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:43
    Kind of curious what someone who has nothing they want to do while young and full of energy plans to spend money on once their stamina and motivation decline later in life.
    8AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:44
    Re: #4
    Just living expenses, basically.
    The reason I'm saving is that I'm low-income, so it's to survive in case I get laid off or fall sick.
    Since you can't count on the government or social security, self-defense is the only option.
    13AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:45
    Re: #8
    If you feel like you can't count on the government, then saving money doesn't really mean anything either, does it?
    14AnonymousAug 30, 2026 08:46
    Re: #8
    Someone as steady/reliable as you isn't the type who gets fired.
    44AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:03
    Why do they assume that young people building up assets can't have fun/go out and enjoy themselves?
    46AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:06
    Re: #44
    Well, young people themselves keep saying they have no money.
    49AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:07
    Re: #44
    It's because a small minority who go all-in on saving and can't afford to have fun get put on TV and it spreads…
    51AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:07
    Re: #44
    Well, for young people, once you subtract living costs and investment money, there's barely anything left, right?
    72AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:15
    Don't come crying in your old age, okay?

    76AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:17
    Even if you're aiming to maximize your assets, what matters is your earning power.
    Living stingy and stacking up some pathetic little amount every month — the total you'll end up with is limited anyway.
    81AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:19
    Re: #76
    I'm on the bottom rung with a disability hire (developmental disorder, or "hattasho" in net slang), so my earning power is hopeless — I'll just quietly save and invest instead.
    But I think it's fine for able-bodied/neurotypical people to work on building their earning power.
    87AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:20
    Re: #76
    Well, I think it's fine for people whose hobby is watching investing and the economy move, even if their income is low, and who do small-scale investing because of that.

    So I'm not saying it's all wrong.
    If someone genuinely enjoys a steady, frugal, invest-a-little life, they should go for it.
    95AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:22
    Re: #76
    Just putting away 100,000 yen a month is enough to remove hardship in old age. Is that too hard for you?
    98AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:23
    The fund manager behind "Orcan" (the popular all-country index fund): "I want to ease people's money worries and let them live their lives with peace of mind."




    151AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:41
    Re: #98
    This guy's a real looker, huh.
    103AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:25
    Re: #95
    I'm not saying "it's too hard for me" — I'm saying it's too hard for most salaried workers.
    The median income for full-time employees is 3.84 million yen.
    Take-home on a 3.84 million yen salary is about 3.04 million, which works out to roughly 250,000 yen a month.
    Put 100,000 of that into NISA every month and your living standard drops to about welfare level.
    108AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:27
    Re: #103
    Even just 50,000 yen a month is better than not doing it at all.
    It grows with the power of compounding.
    116AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:30
    Re: #103
    Yeah, you definitely can't live extravagantly.
    But as long as you don't overreach, a normal life still seems doable.
    109AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:27
    Re: #95
    You don't actually know if it'll pay off and make old age easier lol.

    You might die tomorrow,
    or the economy could collapse and whatever you invested could go to zero.
    113AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:29
    Re: #109
    All you're doing is saying "might, might."
    That's just a personal opinion piece, not an argument.
    123AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:33
    Re: #109
    If there's ever a crash bad enough to wipe out index fund assets, the world will have moved past capitalism as a system by that point.

    You can imagine dying tomorrow, so why can't you imagine living to 120 thanks to medical advances?
    111AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:28
    Re: #108
    You seem to be under a misunderstanding — there's no such thing as guaranteed "compound interest" in index investing.
    It's just a convenient way of describing past growth rates and reinvested gains.
    If anything, if a panic/crash hits, you could even end up below your principal.
    167AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:48
    Re: #111
    "Losing your principal" is just talking about face value.
    In a world where something that terrifying happens, do you really think the yen or dollar that Japan and the US print will still have value?

    In a world like that, companies making weapons, food, and electricity would obviously hold more value than cash.
    115AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:30
    Sure, even if stock prices get blown away by 30-40% in a panic, they'll recover eventually.
    But whether that recovery takes 10 years or 30 years, only God knows.
    The Nikkei average took 30 years to recover.
    122AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:32
    Re: #115
    People who trash-talk investing always bring up the Nikkei average lol.

    It's not even a market-cap-weighted index, it's a bogus one — and on top of that, it's just a single country's fund lol.
    124AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:33
    Re: #115
    It's fine if you're investing with spare cash, but if you go all-in and suddenly need money, you'll have to sell at a loss.
    You should keep at least 2-3 million yen on hand in cash or a fixed deposit.
    133AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:36
    Using your sensitivity while you have it.
    Things like the raw scenery you see while traveling, but also music and novels (manga these days?), paintings, fashion, and so on.
    I heard this here and there when I was young, from senior coworkers much older than me —
    that your sensitivity dulls with age, and you stop being moved by things as easily.
    But honestly, by your mid-20s I feel like that window's already starting to close.
    142AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #133
    That's a good point too.
    Thanks ("sangatsu").
    162AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:44
    Re: #133
    None of that costs much money anyway.
    137AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:37
    I'm nearly 50 now, but here's a one-point tip: eat the fancy meat while you're young.
    Once you're past 30 it gets rough.
    Past 40 you basically can't eat it anymore.
    Also, everyone talks about overseas travel, but leisure trips in general too — once your kids drag you around and you're forced to go along, it's genuinely rough.
    139AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #137
    Yeah, people always say to eat the fatty stuff while you can.
    Thanks.
    160AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:44
    Re: #137
    I do think I should've traveled abroad more as a student, but I don't find myself thinking "I wish I'd eaten more fatty karubi," so that's not really an experience I feel I'm missing out on.

    Even when you're older, you can still enjoy tongue or fillet cuts just fine.
    141AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:38
    Re: #131
    It might not always turn a profit, sure, but according to past data, holding for 15 years straight ("gachi hold") has a zero rate of ending up below principal.

    Can't say for certain what happens going forward, but as long as it beats the bank's garbage interest rates, that's a win, so it's fine either way.
    145AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:39
    Re: #141
    That's just because market conditions over the past 15 years happened to be good.
    If a global depression hits, it'll crash hard, plain and simple.
    173AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:57
    Traveling abroad at 20 versus traveling abroad at 70 — the enjoyment level is totally different.
    At the very least, anything physically active is definitely more fun while you're young.
    174AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:58
    Re: #173
    But isn't there also a chance that older people can enjoy it more because they have more knowledge and cultural background?
    176AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:01
    Re: #173
    That's true for leisure activities, but sightseeing in the West is pretty much the same whether you're young or old, no?
    196AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:09
    Re: #173
    Overseas travel doesn't actually cost that much.
    You should just backpack while you're a student.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    With the spread of the new NISA program, there’s a growing sense that “of course you invest” — yet the thread repeatedly pointed out that the median income for full-time employees is 3.84 million yen (roughly 250,000 yen take-home per month), making it genuinely tough to realistically set aside 100,000 yen a month for investing. The debate broadly split into two points. One was skepticism toward the “experience vs. savings” framing itself, with many arguing that young people simply don’t have much spare money to spend, which is why they’re saving in the first place. The other was over the merits of investing: against the claim that “looking at any 15-year window over the past 15 years, principal has never been lost,” came the counterargument that this is only because recent markets have been favorable — if a panic hits, that’s a different story, and the Nikkei average famously took 30 years to recover. One commonly misunderstood point: the “compounding” talked about in index investing isn’t a guaranteed increase — it’s simply a convenient way of describing the reinvestment of past gains. It’s also worth noting, as background for readers, that the clash between the savings camp and the investing camp starts from a shared problem — low disposable income — well before the question of whether there’s money left over for “experiences” even comes into play.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “A mysterious faction claims ‘In your youth, prioritize experiences you can only have now over savings and investing!’ — really?“.