Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Japan’s technical director Yamamoto blames Brazil loss partly on missed meal: ‘That one meal was huge’ — reactions split

    On October 9, the Japan Football Association explained at a technical committee meeting why it decided to keep manager Hajime Moriyasu in charge even after the World Cup in North America. The reasoning: Japan needs to win next year’s Asian Cup to boost its FIFA ranking, since European teams rack up ranking points playing each other in their own Nations League, leaving Japan with few chances to face top-ranked sides and climb the rankings itself. At the meeting, technical committee chairman Masakuni Yamamoto cited the team’s limited number of meals as one factor behind the loss to Brazil, saying, “That one meal made a big difference.” Reactions on 5ch were split — some saw it as a fair point about condition management, while others dismissed it as an “excuse” that glossed over the talent gap, the grueling schedule, and questionable squad-rotation calls.

    The Japan Football Association (JFA) held a technical committee meeting on the 9th.

    Technical committee chairman Masakuni Yamamoto spoke about the importance of the FIFA ranking. The JFA explained that a key reason it decided to keep manager Hajime Moriyasu (58) on even after the World Cup in North America is the need to win next year’s Asian Cup in Saudi Arabia and raise Japan’s FIFA ranking.

    Meanwhile, since the European nations occupying the top spots hold their own Nations League competition, Japan rarely gets to play friendlies against those top-ranked teams, making it hard for Japan’s FIFA ranking to climb.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:37
    Whatever they ate, that's not why they lost
    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:38
    Market value
    Ao Tanaka €15 million
    Daichi Kamada €10 million
    Hidemasa Morita €6 million
    Takehiro Tomiyasu €5 million
    Wataru Endo €3 million
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:38
    So basically they botched the conditioning — making rookie mistakes like a school team at its first national tournament
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:39
    Also, Japan's schedule was way too tight coming off the Sweden match, plus the travel on top of it — fatigue must've been brutal.
    Brazil had a much longer gap between matches.
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:41
    Re: #9
    It's brutal that Moriyasu didn't field a lineup that could actually beat the Netherlands, so he had to go full-strength again against Sweden and wear the players out.
    He should've closed out the Netherlands game and rotated the squad for Sweden.
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:39
    Current Brazil is honestly pretty weak anyway
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:39
    Shut up. It's obviously down to the difference in coaching.
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:41
    The guy who obsessed over hydration breaks and then flopped at the Athens Olympics
    and this is who's picking the coach now.
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:41
    The squad was already battered by the time the group stage ended.
    Mitoma, Minamino, and Endo were out even before the tournament started, then Kubo got injured too — it basically became a whole different team.
    I wanted to see the Brazil match with the best lineup available.
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:42
    How many times are these guys gonna make the same mistake?
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:44
    At the end of the day, you can't win without top-tier players.
    How many guys on this Japan squad are actually thriving at major European clubs?
    If this were a sport Japan's current roster could win on pure merit, there'd be no clubs paying billions of yen in transfer fees for a single player.
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:44
    The gap wasn't some trivial thing like that.
    There was an overwhelming gap in team and player quality and in tactics.
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:44
    It's the buildup of little things like this that matters though.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:45
    Maybe it's just that their 'human strength' wasn't enough? (ningenryoku — a vague buzzword Japanese coaches love for mental/character strength)
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:46
    Re: #1
    Then just eat an energy gel pouch or something.
    Enough with the 'human strength' talk already.
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    Given Japan's actual level, they probably can't win unless they go into the knockout stage in peak condition.
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:49
    Bringing up an injury after the fact, sure, that happens —
    but this is one heck of an excuse.
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:49
    Re: #1
    Seriously?
    Too little food — sounds just as bad as the food complaints from the Aichi Asian Games (the 2026 Asian Games host region in Japan).
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    Was the match really decided by something like that?
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    From reporters: comments like "they should've based the camp in Dallas instead" and "every quarterfinalist played a back four" are going around too.
    34AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    The guy's always been obsessed with pointless details, same as ever.
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:52
    Oh, so that's why they couldn't attack in the second half… huh, I see.
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:54
    Guess soccer has its own 'Masa' too (a nod to his given name, Masakuni — the running joke about officials nicknamed 'Masa' who fixate on trivial details).
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:58
    They obviously wore themselves out trying to sit on the lead and run out the clock.
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:58
    And this is coming from the technical committee chairman.
    Give me a break.
    41AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:02
    Quit rambling and just eat a Calorie Mate bar (a popular Japanese meal-replacement snack bar).
    42AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:02
    So the guy who used to lecture about water
    has moved on to lecturing about food now, huh.
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:02
    Eating would just make you sleepy though.
    People who get things done don't eat before an important meeting.
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:03
    What is this guy even talking about,
    nagging on and on about something that's already over.
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:17
    Re: #14
    What do you even mean by "a lineup that could beat the Netherlands"?
    Since when did Japan get that strong?
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:24
    Re: #62
    Maeda out, Tanaka in.
    68AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:21
    Masakuni's consistent, at least — always fixated on stuff like water.
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:30
    Re: #68
    Turns out soccer isn't about skill, tactics, or squad depth — it's about meals!!
    75AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:31
    Reason for the loss:


    Food


    …lame.
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:35
    Re: #75
    I see. Go ahead and tell me how to make it interesting then.

    Background and key points of this story

    The reason the JFA gave for keeping manager Moriyasu on was the need to raise Japan’s FIFA ranking by winning next year’s Asian Cup. While European teams secure matches against strong rivals through their own Nations League, Japan isn’t part of that framework and has few chances to face top-ranked opponents even in friendlies. Against that backdrop, technical director Yamamoto’s comment about meal frequency was raised as “one factor” behind the loss — treating it as the whole story misses the point. The thread split between those who saw it as a fair point about condition management, and those who saw it as an excuse that papered over bigger factors: the talent gap, the brutal schedule right after the Sweden match, and the squad-selection calls against the Netherlands. Those who remember Yamamoto’s past fixation on hydration breaks at the Athens Olympics read this as more of the same — sweating the small stuff — and reacted with a fair bit of irony.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Japan National Team] Technical director Masakuni Yamamoto passionately cites meal frequency as a reason for the Brazil loss: “That one meal made a big difference”“.

  • Docomo’s New Ad Features Kumai-chan — 5ch: “Big Really Is Best”

    Hello! Project member Kumai-chan appeared in NTT Docomo’s new commercial, the “Poincot and Countdown” spot, and it’s got people talking. Thread posters traded reports that it topped 500,000 views within about 11 hours of release, though the exact number was disputed — some said 530,000, others 550,000. Talk soon turned to how the iPhone 18 Pro looks tiny in the hands of the 5’11” (180cm) Kumai-chan, which spiraled into comparisons with other Hello! Project members who’ve done commercials before, along with plenty of guesses about the thinking behind the casting.

    iPhone “Poincot and Countdown” — 30 seconds

    Source: youtube.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    Guess it's because she's 5'11" (180cm)
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    Kasahara's just a Galaxy girl at the end of the day (she's known for Samsung Galaxy ads)
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    Wait, is that really Kumai?
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    550K views as of 11 hours ago
    Guess it's running as a paid ad
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    No lines for her, so she still couldn't top Jokagoryo's Mac commercial
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:52
    It's not 550K, it's 530K, oops
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:53
    Whoever cast her is way too much of an otaku
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:54
    That's a seriously major sponsor right there
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:56
    Doesn't it look way too big when Kumai-chan's the one holding it?!
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:58
    Never thought her height would come in handy like THIS
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:59
    Could Kumai-chan actually pull off being a Paris Fashion Week model?
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:02
    Re: #23
    She'd need to speak decent English for that, which makes it tough
    Age-wise it's rough too
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:01
    Kumai-chan's in the commercial but still can't afford an iPhone 18 Pro herself
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:05
    What even is that, nyan~? (cutesy cat-speak)
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:06
    It's less 'big' and more 'long'
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:06
    Why can't Juice=Juice ever land a commercial?
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:07
    Juice=Juice did a Mac ad too, you know
    Same club then
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:08
    Wonder if Kumai-chan actually knows the difference between 'eighteen' and 'eighty'
    36AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:16
    Kumai-chan's weirdly-huge-but-cute slot gets passed down to Homatan now
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:17
    Nice catch
    There's zero explanation for that in the ad itself
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:17
    If they're even reading meaning into her height, that's way too otaku
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:18
    Docomo's signal is garbage, but if Kumai-chan became the antenna herself we'd probably get full bars
    42AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:25
    Guess it's 'Pro' because Hello! 'Pro'ject?
    46AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:27
    Re: #42
    If they actually said that in the pitch meeting and it got approved, that's hilarious 🤣
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:26
    That one's probably berry-colored, I'd guess
    51AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:30
    Re: #44
    Oh wow, you're right!!
    48AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:28
    Big really is best after all
    Though the 18 Pro isn't even that big to begin with
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:29
    She looks so cool, but underneath she's just a big softy bear (pun on 'Kuma' = bear in her name)
    50AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:29
    She just blew right past Airi in one shot
    58AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:37
    Re: #50
    Airi's got three TV commercials airing right now
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:40
    Re: #58
    Airi in that personal government bond ad is so cute
    63AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:42
    Re: #58
    She's doing great as a talent these days
    Her dad must be proud too
    59AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:39
    They cast a tall person on purpose just to trick you into misjudging the size
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:42
    An iPad mini would be the perfectly-sized device for Kumai-chan
    64AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:43
    Oh, it's Kumai-chan
    I thought the one standing in front was Sawagoro

    Background and Key Points

    The view-count figures floating around the thread — “530,000 views in 11 hours” versus “550,000 views” — didn’t even agree among the posters themselves, so it’s worth noting these are fan guesses, not an official number. In Hello! Project-related commercials, it’s standard fan practice to compare members’ past appearances and view counts, and this thread was no exception, with repeated comparisons to the commercial track records of members like Jokagoryo, Juri, and Airi. This isn’t really about ranking individuals so much as it’s fans reading into how commercial opportunities circulate within the group — a bit different from simple one-upmanship. The fact that she was cast with no lines also became a talking point, since it suggests the ad leaned on visual impact (her height and presence) over voice, fueling plenty of speculation about the casting’s intent. The jabs about Docomo’s weak reception are best read as the usual self-deprecating carrier humor rather than genuine criticism.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Kumai-chan in NTT Docomo’s New iPhone 18 Pro Commercial.”

  • Who’s the Fourth Member of Manga’s ‘Big Four’ Female Artists? 5ch: ‘Just Crown Demon Slayer’s Gotouge #1’

    The “Big Four female manga artists” are locked in at three — Rumiko Takahashi, Momoko Sakura, and Hiromu Arakawa — but a 5ch thread lit up over who should take the fourth spot. Names like Naoko Takeuchi, Machiko Hasegawa, Koyoharu Gotouge (Demon Slayer), Yukari Ichijo, Yumi Tamura, and Chie Shinohara got tossed out one after another, with some citing actual print-run figures and arguing sales should settle it. Others pushed back on the whole premise, saying there’s no point ranking a “Big Four” without clear criteria, and pointed out that the candidates skewed heavily toward shonen-style hits, with few of shojo manga’s own legends getting a mention. The debate sprawled on without ever reaching a conclusion.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:38
    Let's just call it the 'Three Musketeers' and leave it at that
    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    Arakawa's often called Takahashi's successor, so there's that
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:41
    Just settle it by total sales like they do for the male artists
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    What about Demon Slayer's 'Wani'? (fan nickname for Gotouge, whose identity was kept hidden)
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:45
    Re: #14
    If that counts, Naoko Takeuchi ranks above her anyway
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    Yukari Ichijo, Yumi Tamura, Chie Shinohara — isn't it got to be one of these?
    Personally I'd pick Āmin Okada
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    If Chibi Maruko-chan counts, Sazae-san is a must
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:47
    Demon Slayer's author blows every other female manga artist out of the water, so this debate's kind of pointless now
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:50
    Re: #24
    If landing a hit anime counts, Naoko Takeuchi's right there too
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:48
    Sales-wise too, Gotouge's #1 among female manga artists
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:49
    Re: #25
    So Gotouge's in and Arakawa's out, then?
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:49
    What's the actual criteria here?
    Takahashi and Arakawa make it sound like we're talking shonen manga, but Sakura doesn't fit that at all
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:51
    There's no point deciding a 'Big Four' without any concrete criteria.
    This is seriously going nowhere
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:51
    If shojo manga counts too, there's a ton of candidates
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:51
    Takahashi's the only one with unanimous, no-objections support anyway.
    Forget 'Big Four' or 'Three Musketeers' — just make her the one and only
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:52
    Hasegawa's too much of a one-hit wonder
    36AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:52
    Re: #33
    Machiko Hasegawa is not a one-hit wonder
    91AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:21
    Re: #33
    'Ijiwaru Baasan' (Mischievous Granny) was a hit too, you know
    34AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:52
    If the bar is 'landed several popular hits and actually finished them,' Takahashi and Arakawa are locks
    42AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:54
    Re: #34
    Plenty of ordinary people have seen Chibi Maruko-chan or Sazae-san but never touched anything by Arakawa, though
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:53
    Gotouge, Nagano, Takahashi, Hasegawa
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:54
    Re: #28
    Takeuchi's credited as original creator, but that was a multimedia franchise from the start, so it's a bit different from a normal manga-to-anime adaptation.
    Kind of like the Evangelion TV anime versus Sadamoto's manga
    86AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:15
    Re: #43
    Shojo manga did have cases where the manga and anime launched simultaneously, right?
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:54
    Is Sakura really all that, though?
    The anime's doing way too much of the heavy lifting there —
    that's down to a sharp producer at Fuji TV
    47AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:55
    Honestly, Takahashi's the one name everyone picks no matter what — she's enough on her own
    51AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:57
    Re: #47
    She's just got so many hits
    63AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:05
    Re: #47
    Still active to this day — that's legend status right there
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:57
    Even if you add up every manga Takahashi's ever sold, Demon Slayer still outsells her — just give Koyoharu Gotouge the #1 spot among female manga artists
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:05
    Total print run ranking by manga artist
    #1 Eiichiro Oda — approx. 500 million — One Piece
    #2 Takao Saito — approx. 300 million — Golgo 13
    #3 Akira Toriyama — approx. 290 million — Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump
    #4 Gosho Aoyama — approx. 287 million — Detective Conan, Yaiba
    #5 Rumiko Takahashi — approx. 275 million — Ranma ½, Inuyasha, Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku
    #6 Masashi Kishimoto — approx. 251 million — Naruto
    #7 Koyoharu Gotouge — approx. 220 million — Demon Slayer
    #7 Takehiko Inoue — approx. 207 million — Slam Dunk, Vagabond, Real
    #8 Mitsuru Adachi — approx. 201 million — Touch, H2, Miyuki, Rough
    #9 Osamu Tezuka — approx. 172 million — Astro Boy, Black Jack, Buddha
    #10 Osamu Akimoto — approx. 160 million — Kochikame (This Is the Police Station in Front of Kameari Park in Katsushika Ward)

    Works with print runs of 10 million or more
    Listed left to right in order of best-selling
    77AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:11
    Re: #62
    So by the sales-figures logic, Tezuka would get dropped from the male manga artists' 'Big Four'?
    90AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:20
    Re: #77
    Tezuka's in the 'pioneer' slot, so it's probably fine either way —
    more like a hall-of-fame exemption
    93AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:22
    Re: #77
    Honestly there's an argument he got deified partly because he died young — at the time, the general feeling was that Shinji Mizushima was actually bigger
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:06
    Demon Slayer's just too strong — debating this is pointless.
    Something at the level of Inuyasha, Ranma, or Fullmetal Alchemist (Hagaren) has no way of beating it
    70AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:07
    Re: #65
    I'd say they do beat it, honestly.
    Demon Slayer was a hit, sure, but that was a lot of lucky breaks stacking up — the manga itself is pretty average
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:08
    The fact that Hideko Mizuno isn't even on the list proves you're all newbies
    83AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:13
    Re: #73
    Isn't Mizuno about the only one left alive from the Tokiwa-so group?
    97AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:24
    Funny how female manga artists who stuck to shojo manga never come up in debates like this, even the legendary-tier ones
    100AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:26
    Re: #97
    This whole thread and Yumiko Igarashi's name hasn't come up once.

    Without her, shojo manga might still be seen as something only male artists drew — that's the kind of presence she was
    101AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:26
    Re: #97
    That's just because the people in here don't know shojo manga well
    102AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:27
    Re: #97
    Isn't Sakura technically shojo manga too, though?
    I get you mean people like Moto Hagio or Keiko Takemiya, but still

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The term “Big Four female manga artists” isn’t an official award or statistic — it’s just shorthand that gets thrown around online, and posters in the thread were quick to point out there’s no concrete criteria behind it. The debate split into two main camps. One side argued the pick should come down to hard numbers like print runs, citing an overall print-run ranking spanning all genres and age brackets (including artists like Eiichiro Oda and Osamu Tezuka), which led some to call Demon Slayer’s Koyoharu Gotouge the “#1 female manga artist” — though opinion was divided on whether a shonen-category title like that should even count toward the “Big Four.” The other camp felt uneasy putting shonen-leaning artists like Rumiko Takahashi and Hiromu Arakawa on the same footing as a slice-of-life/shojo artist like Momoko Sakura, and noted that major shojo manga figures such as Moto Hagio, Keiko Takemiya, and Yumiko Igarashi barely got a mention at all. Worth flagging as an easy-to-miss detail: that print-run ranking isn’t a women-only tally — it’s a combined figure across all manga artists, regardless of gender.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from a thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (anything-goes live-chat) board, “The ‘Big Four’ female manga artists have three locks in Rumiko Takahashi, Momoko Sakura, and Hiromu Arakawa, but picking the fourth is tough.”

  • Dieters clash: ‘Just run,’ ‘Lift weights,’ or ‘Stop eating rice’?

    “Run and you’ll lose weight.” “Lift weights and you’ll lose weight.” “Just stop eating rice.” — a three-way diet debate broke out on 5ch. One user pointed out that even with a reduced basal metabolic rate, adult men still need at least 1,500 kcal a day, only to be countered by someone claiming their weight didn’t budge for a week even after cutting down to 1,000 kcal a day. Success stories varied wildly too — one person lost 28kg through diet alone, another dropped 20kg just by cutting rice. The thread seemed to drift toward the simple conclusion that “burn more calories than you take in” is all that matters, but opinions stayed split to the very end over whether lifting weights is actually essential.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:42
    Which one's actually right?? 😢
    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:43
    Why isn't "control your diet" — the single most important thing — even on the list?
    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:45
    Re: #2
    Because I want to eat, that's why
    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:44
    C is some auntie whose knowledge is stuck in the Heisei era (1989–2019, i.e. hopelessly outdated)
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:50
    Re: #3
    You're the one stuck in the Heisei era
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:46
    The old "eat too little and your metabolism tanks, so you need to eat more" trap
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:49
    Re: #5
    No matter how much your basal metabolism drops, an adult man still needs 1,500 kcal a day — go below that and you'll lose weight
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:53
    Re: #9
    I tried cutting down to 1,000 kcal a day as a test and my weight didn't move for about a week
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:55
    Re: #24
    No way that's true
    That's physically impossible
    Are you asleep all day or something
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:56
    Re: #24
    There's no way you went a full week at 1,000 kcal with zero change — you're probably eating without realizing it
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:49
    It's C
    More precisely, you won't lose weight unless you cut how much you eat
    If you eat normally and just work out, you'll just end up a muscle-bound blob
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:50
    Re: #10
    Why do you hate muscle so much?
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:49
    Re: #9
    That's just unhealthy
    That's not losing weight, that's wasting away
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:52
    Re: #11
    People who actually need to diet in the first place don't waste away
    First just cut your food and drop some fat
    If you're carrying way too much weight, even exercise is inefficient
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:51
    What makes this confusing is that every diet video or diet guru out there is some guy whose hobby happens to be lifting weights
    I don't want to get ripped, but somehow the diet conversation always turns into a conversation about muscle
    "Low-carb wastes your muscle," "cardio eats away your muscle" — I don't want to hear about muscle, I just want to lose weight
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:52
    Re: #17
    If you just stop eating, you'll lose muscle too, so you can't dodge lifting forever
    Unless you're fine staying at a high body fat percentage
    117AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:52
    Re: #17
    If all you care about is the number on the scale and not how you end up looking, sure, you don't need to lift
    But if you want to be healthy and look good, not just lighter, lifting is a must
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:54
    You don't need weight training at all
    I'm saying this as someone who lost 28kg with just diet and walking — no gym, no lifting — so this is the real deal
    I've never done a single ab workout and I've still got a six-pack
    Not eating is the ultimate truth
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:57
    Re: #28
    Lifting and having abs aren't really related, are they?
    42AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:59
    Re: #28
    Depends on your starting body type, but for most people doing just that won't improve your body fat percentage — you just end up with a pot belly, classic "dad bod"
    You don't need to get buff, but to actually tone up you can't avoid lifting
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:59
    If you're Japanese you should definitely keep eating rice
    Your recovery is on a completely different level
    It gives you energy so you can move more, and that's what actually makes you lose weight
    48AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:02
    Re: #44
    You need carbs to burn fat in the first place
    For digestion too, plus the fiber and nutrients — rice in the right amount is actually ideal for dieting
    47AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:01
    Just eat whatever you like
    Keep it under 1,500 kcal a day and walk 10km daily, and you'll lose 20kg in a year, easy
    At the end of the day, people who are fat are just eating too much. "I barely eat and I'm still fat" is always a lie — they're definitely downing high-calorie food or drinks somewhere
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:02
    Re: #47
    I noticed that if you cut fat, you can actually eat quite a bit and still stay under 2,000 kcal
    Oil really is the enemy
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:10
    Running is the one thing that's always been legit, no matter the era
    There's no such thing as someone who runs consistently and is still fat
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:17
    Re: #62
    Nah, I joined a local soccer club back in first grade and ran an hour every day, and I still got chunky
    Out of 40+ kids in my grade I was always a starter and fast, so people kept calling me the "fat kid who can still move"
    No matter how much I ran, I never lost weight
    78AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:18
    Re: #62
    Running training nearly wrecked my knees, so now I only swim
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:12
    Cut rice and you'll easily drop like 20kg
    Source: me
    67AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:12
    Re: #65
    Classic case of losing nothing but muscle mass
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:17
    Calories out > calories in
    That explains literally everything
    No need for all the fancy talk
    85AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:25
    Re: #74
    Exactly right
    Either eat less or move more
    If the calorie math checks out, you'll lose weight, guaranteed
    For reference I eat one meal a day
    97AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:36
    Re: #74
    So true
    Apparently recent research shows people tend to underestimate their own calorie intake, so it really just comes down to tracking that properly
    75AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:17
    There really are people who lose weight through gut-health routines ("chōkatsu" — probiotic foods, fermented stuff, etc.), huh
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:19
    Re: #75
    Fat people's gut health is usually pretty bad anyway
    When I was dieting I made a point of eating yogurt and natto every day
    81AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:20
    Re: #79
    Once your gut's in good shape you start craving vegetables, and your diet naturally balances out
    89AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:33
    Whether it's exercise or dieting, the second you stop you gain it all back — so are we supposed to keep this up forever?
    94AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:35
    Re: #89
    That's just overeating or snacking
    If you're middle-aged, you probably need at least some minimal self-control just to maintain
    108AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    Isn't it kind of impressive that I've had chronic diarrhea forever and I'm still fat? 🥺
    112AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:48
    Re: #108
    Not impressive in the slightest
    109AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    Lifting weights is the best, it's on a whole different level for your metabolism
    111AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    Re: #109
    Your metabolism doesn't really change that much though

    Background and key points of this debate

    The basic principle of dieting — “burn more calories than you take in” — is widely supported by nutritional science, but what split the thread was the question of how to actually achieve that. Basal metabolic rate for adult men is generally put at around 1,500 kcal, yet there are reports of people seeing no change in weight even after sticking to extremely low calorie intake for a while. This is likely explained by the gap between that figure and the total energy expenditure needed to maintain body weight, plus people underestimating their self-reported intake (overlooked snacks, seasonings, and so on). Research has in fact shown that people tend to underestimate how much they actually eat. It’s also true that drastically cutting carbs like rice tends to produce quick weight loss, but much of that comes from a drop in muscle mass and water retention rather than actual fat loss — and that distinction is part of what fueled the disagreement in the thread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Dieter A: “Run and you’ll lose weight” / Dieter B: “Lift weights and you’ll lose weight” / C: “Stop eating rice”“.

  • Honda Renames Next-Gen Hybrid System ‘Honda Hybrid’ — 5ch: ‘The Name Decides Everything’

    On October 9, 2026, Honda announced it will rename the next-generation hybrid (HV) system set to debut in models from 2027 onward from “e:HEV” to “Honda Hybrid.” The company says it’s aiming for a fuel economy improvement of more than 10% through system miniaturization and improved control technology, and plans to fit the new system in 15 models sold worldwide by fiscal year 2029. With Nissan branding its hybrid system “e-Power,” a 5ch thread saw users questioning whether the name change actually means anything, before the discussion expanded into comparisons of fuel economy and torque across Toyota’s, Nissan’s, and Honda’s different hybrid systems — and even into the bigger question of whether EVs or hybrids will dominate the future.

    On the 9th, Honda announced that the next-generation hybrid (HV) system to be installed in models launched from 2027 will be renamed “Honda Hybrid.” This moves away from the previous name, “e:HEV” (pronounced “e-H-E-V”), toward something simpler and easier to understand.

    Honda’s HV system normally runs on the motor and switches to the engine at highway speeds. The new system aims to improve fuel economy by more than 10% through miniaturization and more efficient control technology. Honda plans to fit it in 15 models sold worldwide by fiscal year 2029.

    Nissan Motor also gives its hybrid system its own brand name, “e-Power.” In that system the engine is used solely to generate electricity, while the car itself is driven by a motor, just like an EV.

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:21
    Does this even matter?
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:53
    Re: #3
    Nope! Soichiro Honda is crying somewhere right now.
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:08
    Re: #3
    Probably because some customers were mistaking it for an EV.
    167AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:37
    Re: #3
    Actually, it does matter. Let's be real — the name decides everything. Engineering types seriously underestimate how much naming matters.
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:26
    Is there some rule that every automaker has to use a different name for their hybrid system?
    Feels like they could all just call it "HV" and be done with it.
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:28
    Re: #10
    There are "hybrid in name only" systems out there too, so you can't just lump them all together.
    77AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:09
    Re: #10
    Gas-engine cars are the same way — every automaker slaps whatever name they want on their systems.
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:36
    Re: #23
    Toyota's is optimized purely for fuel economy — torque is basically nonexistent.
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:44
    Re: #27
    Is that really true though? It's not like it can't accelerate when you step on it. There's a computer managing things in between and you can switch drive modes — I think it's more that the deliberate tuning just doesn't match your personal taste.
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:51
    Re: #40
    It does accelerate, but on torque it's clearly inferior to e-Power and e:HEV.
    89AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:14
    Re: #55
    That's just because the throttle mapping is tuned way softer in Eco mode. That's why Toyota's HV gives the impression you have to really stomp the pedal to get it moving when you're driving in Eco mode.
    257AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:06
    Re: #55
    It accelerates, but it's inferior on torque. Go ahead, explain torque then lol
    45AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:48
    In the long run I think Nissan's pure series-hybrid approach is going to become the mainstream — where the engine only generates electricity.
    52AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:50
    Re: #45
    If the motor is the only thing providing power, efficiency tanks at mid-to-high RPM, which defeats the whole point of a hybrid.
    56AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:51
    Re: #45
    I heard Toyota looked at range extenders early on and dropped the idea, saying it had no future.

    But then again, a call made 30 years ago could change as times move on — plenty of component technologies keep evolving.
    57AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:52
    Re: #45
    Nissan's hybrid drops to like 10 km/liter in winter.
    66AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:59
    In the end, Toyota's strategy starting with the Prius was the optimal answer — the idiot followers who twisted things up trying to look original for pride's sake failed across the board lol
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:08
    Re: #66
    Yeah, it's true that Toyota came out of the gate with something that already looked like the final, evolved form of the hybrid.
    103AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:19
    Re: #73
    Toyota's hybrid just bolts a battery and motor onto a gasoline car, so the vehicle price goes up by that much. It's such garbage tech that you have to drive 100,000 km just to recoup that extra cost in gas savings. They got the government to pour subsidies and eco-car tax breaks into it, squeezed their suppliers to build it cheap, and that's how we got here.
    112AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:22
    Re: #103
    Tesla only sold because of subsidies too lol, same with Chinese EVs lol
    80AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:10
    Toyota's dropping 3-cylinder engines too, so maybe they'll get their act together.
    85AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:12
    Re: #80
    Wait, are they discontinuing the GR Yaris?
    88AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:13
    Re: #80
    Apparently Chinese buyers really care about cylinder count. Is that why?

    Though of course there's also vibration, engine size, and I think some advantage with emissions regulations or something too, right?
    144AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:29
    Honda should quit the car business right now. There's no way they beat Tesla, China, or Korea in EVs no matter how hard they try.

    They should pivot to infrastructure or some other field, like the home appliance makers did.
    146AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:29
    Re: #144
    Huh? What's that you're saying about Honda Motor, the pride of my home prefecture, Tochigi?
    151AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:31
    Re: #144
    Hitachi bought Honda Motor's parts subsidiary, and that's how (Hitachi) Astemo — Denso's rival — came to be.
    145AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:29
    Re: #115
    I don't know about overseas, but in Japan the traffic lights are deliberately timed so you get stopped at every single intersection, which absolutely wrecks your fuel economy lol. Stopping again after just a few hundred meters, no way lol. What a dumb country lol
    152AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:31
    Re: #145
    Well, they're traffic lights — their whole job is to make you stop (lol)
    154AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:31
    Re: #145
    More like Japan just has way too many traffic lights. I was on assignment in Germany for two years and it's nowhere near as packed with lights as Japan.
    158AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:33
    Re: #146
    I'm saying Honda Motor is a wonderful company. That's exactly why I'm saying they don't need to be in the car business at all.

    Japanese appliance makers who got crushed by Chinese competitors in home electronics switched to infrastructure and other non-appliance fields and became huge successes — their stock prices shot way up too. That's why I'm saying automakers should do the same.
    162AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:36
    Re: #158
    The two giants of general-purpose gasoline engines are Honda and Suzuki, you know?
    168AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:37
    Re: #162
    Engines are an advanced and wonderful technology, sure, but in cars and motorcycles they're completely obsolete at this point.

    Sorry, but it's time to say goodbye to the car and motorcycle business.
    184AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:44
    Re: #162
    Honda already pulling back on gasoline engine investment puts them below Toyota at this point.
    172AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:39
    I'm telling youuu — unless they get rid of Mibe, it's just going to keep inching toward the end. (Toshihiro Mibe is Honda's current president)
    174AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:40
    Re: #172
    The one headed for the end is Toyota, isn't it — the one that put some clueless corporate suit in as president?
    188AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:45
    Hybrids are a fundamentally flawed product. They're nothing more than a stopgap until EV range improves. Loading both an engine and a motor into one car is just way too inefficient.
    193AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    Re: #188
    Then why are EVs the more expensive ones…?
    200AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    Re: #193
    Everything is expensive when it's new. But structurally, EVs can be made far cheaper — you're basically just bolting wheels onto a motor. Same as a washing machine, an electric fan, or an RC car.

    And because they're so easy to build, countries that never had a seat at the table in the gasoline-car era — Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, India — are seeing their domestic automakers surge once things shift to EVs. Korea's absolutely thriving in EVs too.
    207AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    Re: #200
    It's been over 15 years since the Leaf came out though…
    214AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:52
    Re: #200
    Mitsubishi and Nissan started mass-producing EVs 20 years ago. You call that "new"?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Honda’s “e:HEV” name has been in use since the Fit launched in 2013, describing a proprietary system that mainly runs on the motor while using the engine for generating electricity or driving directly at highway speeds. Toyota’s THS, by contrast, is a series-parallel system that mechanically switches between generating electricity and direct engine drive, while Nissan’s e-Power is a series system that uses the engine purely to generate electricity — so even though all three get called “hybrids,” the underlying mechanisms differ by automaker. The thread split over two questions: whether the name change itself carries any real substance, and how the different systems stack up against each other on fuel economy, torque, and everyday drivability. The thread contains plenty of confident technical claims, but it’s worth noting that fuel economy and power characteristics can vary by driving conditions and individual vehicles, so comments from the thread shouldn’t be taken as a universal verdict.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Honda’s next-gen HV system renamed “Honda Hybrid”… moving on from “e:HEV,” targeting a 10%+ fuel economy improvement.”

  • Welfare Recipient Asks 5ch: ‘Are Workers Just Slaves to the State?’ — Debate Erupts

    A thread on 5ch’s News VIP board asking “I’m on welfare, but aren’t workers basically slaves of the state?” sparked a wide-ranging debate. The original poster repeatedly questioned the meaning of working, while other users pushed back with arguments like “life’s pleasures only mean something because of the hardship that comes before them,” and pointed out that welfare recipients face their own constraints, such as reporting income and dealing with caseworkers. Meanwhile, some commenters dismissed recipients as living “like aristocrats” or as “parasites.” The thread never reached a consensus, with the debate over work versus welfare continuing right to the end.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:36
    What are you even living for?
    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:36
    To enjoy life, I guess?
    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:37
    Re: #2
    Is life actually fun when you have to work just to stay alive?
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:38
    Re: #3
    Yeah, it is.
    In the end, life's pleasures only feel good because of the hardship behind them.
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:38
    Re: #7
    Exactly this.
    I was a NEET for six months,
    but I eventually got so bored I went back to being a working member of society.
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    Re: #7
    What if no matter what you do, it's nothing but suffering?
    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:37
    Because you can't survive without working.
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:37
    Re: #4
    Actually, you can survive.
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:38
    If ordinary people who actually work are slaves,
    then welfare recipients living off the common people's taxes are basically aristocrats 🧑🏼‍💼
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    Re: #8
    Yeah, that's basically how the economy works.
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    In the end, beer tastes best when you're actually thirsty.
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:40
    Re: #12
    I can't drink much, I'm a total lightweight.
    13AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    I'm jealous you can enjoy life on welfare payments.
    I'd need at least 500,000 yen take-home a month to have any fun.
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:41
    Re: #13
    I think it's a matter of hobbies.
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:40
    If you actually try to have a hobby, it's impossible on that budget — just eating, sleeping, and jerking off gets boring fast.
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:41
    Re: #16
    You could play sports or make something, right?
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:43
    Re: #15
    Then just quit that.

    Re: #18
    It's just an example — whether it's juice, barley tea, or plain water, it tastes best when you're thirsty.
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    Re: #25
    Yeah, getting thirsty really makes you want a drink!
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:43
    In the end, being on welfare ('namapo,' 5ch slang for welfare recipients) means you have to put up with a lot.
    You can't really do anything, and if your phone or PC breaks, that's basically game over for your life.
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:45
    Re: #27
    It's not like I'm that broke, though.
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    Between being a parasite and being a slave, which is the lesser evil?
    36AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:46
    Re: #28
    Who knows.
    But there aren't any parasites in this thread, so does it even matter?
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:44
    I can push through work because I love my family.
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:45
    Re: #30
    Well, I can't even get married anyway.
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:46
    Re: #30
    Marriage doesn't even bring anything good.
    34AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:45
    Re: #29
    This is also just an example —
    it's precisely because of the painful moment of being thirsty that cold water feels so good.
    Life is just that, over and over.
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:47
    Re: #34
    You get thirsty even if you don't do anything, though.
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:59
    Is there some technique to keep getting welfare long-term?

    If you're able to work but show no intention to, don't they cut you off?
    64AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:59
    Re: #61
    That's not really true.
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:02
    Re: #61
    This guy thinks he's being clever switching up his persona each time, but everyone trolling by claiming to be on welfare is the same person.
    Only the disabled or elderly can reliably stay on welfare long-term.
    Able-bodied people can get it temporarily, but then job-placement guidance kicks in.
    Don't take it seriously, and you get cut off.
    109AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:25
    Taxes are just chump change on top of chump change.
    Gives me a headache.
    112AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:27
    Re: #109
    Sounds like you've never actually had a job (classic 'airplay' — talking like you have experience you don't).
    113AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:27
    Re: #109
    Why does that give you a headache?
    111AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:25
    I've been abandoned by society and have zero relationships, so welfare is great for me — decent standard of living, total freedom.
    115AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:28
    Re: #111
    It's pretty easygoing.
    118AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:30
    Re: #111
    In my case,
    I have to go report my income at the ward office,
    stay on top of caseworker visits,
    and go to the hospital for a chronic condition — so it's not like I'm free all the time.
    117AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:30
    Don't people with schizophrenia have to work too? ("Tōshitsu" is 5ch slang for schizophrenics.)
    120AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:31
    Re: #117
    Not totally sure, but Grade 2 disability doesn't come with job-placement guidance.
    125AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:34
    Slaves don't get to choose the job they like.
    127AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:35
    Re: #125
    The moment you take a job, you're a slave.
    128AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:35
    Re: #127
    If it's a job you actually like, I don't think you'd call that slavery
    If you're enjoying your work, the word "slave" just doesn't fit.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Japan’s welfare system draws a line within its own rules: able-bodied recipients get job-placement guidance and risk being cut off if they don’t take it seriously, while elderly recipients and those with severe disability ratings are exempt from that guidance. This distinction came up repeatedly in the thread, complicating any simple equation of “receiving welfare” with “living an easy life.” Commenters described concrete constraints recipients face — reporting income, caseworker home visits, hospital trips for chronic conditions — even as others used terms like “parasite” or “living like an aristocrat.” It’s clear that framing work against welfare means something very different depending on where you stand. The discussion even veered into philosophical territory, with a “thirst and water” analogy capturing how people think about pain versus pleasure — showing the debate went well beyond a simple work-versus-welfare dichotomy.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “I’m on welfare, but are workers slaves of the state?“

  • EBiDAN Set to Make First-Ever ‘Mステ’ Appearance — 5ch: ‘EBiDAN Without M!LK Is Like Sukiyaki Without the Meat’

    It’s been announced that AI, Aimyon, EBiDAN, Sakurazaka46, sumika, Naniwa Danshi, and RADWIMPS will appear on TV Asahi’s “Music Station” airing October 16. It will be EBiDAN’s first appearance on the show, where they’ll perform “Yes! Tokyo,” whose music video has surpassed 100 million views. On the 5ch Entertainment & Sports News+ board, posters repeatedly pointed out that M!LK’s members — despite the song being their signature hit — won’t be appearing, alongside discussion of Aimyon’s shifting popularity and a generational shift among the male idol acts on the bill.

    EBiDAN finally set to appear on the next “Music Station” — AI, Aimyon, Sakurazaka46, sumika, Naniwa Danshi, and RADWIMPS also on the bill

    AI, Aimyon, EBiDAN, Sakurazaka46, sumika, Naniwa Danshi, and RADWIMPS will appear on “Music Station,” airing on TV Asahi on October 16.

    Among them, EBiDAN will be making its first appearance on the show, performing “Yes! Tokyo,” a song that also made news recently when its music video topped 100 million views.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:10
    Won't 'AI' get airstruck by Trump unless she renames herself 'SI'? (a joke riffing on the singer's stage name 'AI' coinciding with the term 'artificial intelligence')
    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:12
    EBiDAN without M!LK is basically sukiyaki with no meat in it
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:12
    Even 'Mステ,' the last stronghold of the old Johnny's empire, is finally cracking

    I want to see more and more boy groups coming through
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:13
    Sano Hayato's the main vocalist on 'Yes! Tokyo,' right?
    So why isn't he showing up?
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:13
    Ha, M!LK's missing again… Let me hear Sano Yuto's 'Yes Yes Yes Tokyo' already!
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:14
    Haven't watched this show in like 10 years
    Ever since my favorite stopped appearing on it
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:14
    I know, right — it's basically 'Official Ebi-Man-dism' (a pun on the band Official HIGE DANdism, swapping 'hige' [beard] for 'ebi' [shrimp], a nod to EBiDAN)
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:21
    'Still mid-journey' — isn't that a Spitz lyric?
    Man, Aimyon's really fizzled out fast as an artist
    102AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:56
    Re: #101
    ✕ 'nai na'
    ○ 'nai ka'

    Re: #17
    Nah, that's wrong, it's Kisugi Takao
    You've still got a lot to learn
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:21
    Isn't the train otaku guy from Tamori Club gonna show up?
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:22
    Maybe they're just not booking Johnny's talent anymore
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:23
    Even DA PUMP fans and random outsider otaku are probably smiling from beyond the grave at this point
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:26
    Still Johnny's, huh
    Guess the TV stations haven't learned a thing
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:43
    Re: #23
    You're the one who can't let go of Johnny's
    The agency doesn't even exist anymore
    Quit getting in the way of guys who are working hard at their new agencies
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:26
    EBiDAN and Naniwa Danshi
    That's a stacked episode right there
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:30
    Re: #24
    Looking at EBiDAN's picked lineup, a lot of them are around 20 or still teens — maybe that's the strategy
    A few are even current high schoolers
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:27
    Is it just gonna be EBiDAN's idle lower-tier members?
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:29
    Re: #27
    M!LK not showing up for 'Yes! Tokyo' is just the usual thing by now
    Chosokyu's in there too, so it's hardly just some idle lower-tier group
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:29
    'Official Ebi-Man-dism,' huh~
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:29
    EBiDAN hypes up having M!LK in the group, but they're always missing in action
    It's like a full-course meal with no main dish
    41AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:35
    Guess 'Ii Ondo' isn't getting put on air after all
    Aren't they all too young to perform (Japan restricts minors from TV appearances past certain hours)?
    50AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:37
    Re: #41
    Rienel and Ii Ondo probably can't make it, yeah
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:36
    'Yes! Tokyo' came out back in August, but when it's hitting this big, you can't just ignore it
    M!LK will probably show up in the year-end music specials though, I'd guess
    72AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:57
    Re: #43
    Yeah, it's been on the charts this whole time
    If they'd booked it for a time when M!LK was appearing, they could've had Sano on vocals
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:37
    Re: #30
    Why is M!LK missing every single time?
    Is it a pay thing?
    52AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    Re: #49
    Probably just busy
    The one exception was 'Ongaku no Hi,' the summer special — M!LK was there for that one
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:40
    For this song I want Takashi, Sano, and the 'Wabi-Sabi guy' all together
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:11
    Re: #55
    The ones who actually sing it should be the ones showing up
    'Busy' isn't a real excuse
    The fact that the full lineup only happened once, on a jam-packed day of music shows, is laughably half-assed
    70AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:53
    Re: #50
    Rienel
    The high-school duo — their name's already right there in Re: #1
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:18
    Re: #70
    Rienel seems like they're gonna blow up
    Watched them on CDTV and really liked them
    Their performance as the little brother in 'Downtime' was great too
    75AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:11
    Even when Johnny's talents disappear, some pointless boy idol group just fills the slot — put more bands on instead
    95AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:45
    Re: #75
    They had a band on recently but it killed the vibe on TV, so now it's like 'yeah, let's not book them again'
    They're not even selling well anyway
    78AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:16
    I want to see all of EBiDAN together, full lineup
    Wasn't 'Ongaku no Hi' not the full lineup though?
    80AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:19
    Re: #78
    Someone was out sick, but otherwise it was full
    All the vocalists were there
    87AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:28
    Latest Top 100 ranking of fan base sizes (oshi-katsu fan rankings)
    92AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:33
    Re: #87
    So Sakurazaka ranks below Hinatazaka, huh
    101AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:54
    That doesn't seem like all that glamorous a lineup

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    EBiDAN is a joint unit bringing together male members from several different groups, and its lineup shifts from song to song — so whether M!LK, the group most closely tied to “Yes! Tokyo,” would actually show up this time was something posters had been watching for even before the thread got going. The fact that the same complaint keeps resurfacing suggests it’s a familiar sore spot among fans. Some posts also looked back on how “Music Station” was long centered on the former Johnny’s talent agency, but since the lineup varies broadcast to broadcast, it would be premature to read a single episode’s cast as proof of an industry-wide shift. It’s also worth noting that the “fan count ranking” image mentioned in the thread has no clear source, so the accuracy of its numbers can’t be confirmed.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] EBiDAN Finally Set to Appear on the Next “Music Station”! AI, Aimyon, Sakurazaka46, sumika, Naniwa Danshi, and RADWIMPS Also on the Bill.”

  • Are story-focused RPGs outdated? 5ch: “Isn’t the real problem just that the story sucks?”

    A post claiming “story-focused RPGs are outdated” sparked a wide-ranging debate on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. The thread started with an assessment of Pokémon’s storytelling, then spiraled into a circular argument over sales figures for “Manosaba” (a game that let everyone stream it in full and still sold well), a debate over whether Japanese RPGs should lean on celebrity voice actors, and the observation that storytelling has stayed fresh over time by adopting new tools and settings. Posters never agreed on whether “sold well” should be judged by units alone or by factoring in development costs, and the thread never reached a conclusion.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 15:28
    Pokémon's fanbase these days is full of people who couldn't care less about the story.
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 16:06
    Wanted ASAP: a recent story-focused RPG with a genuinely god-tier story

    Isn't the real problem just that the story sucks?
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 16:40
    Re: #8
    No matter how good the story is, if you can't even follow it, of course it's going to feel boring.
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 16:38
    Re: #1
    If anything, Pokémon Scarlet/Violet put more effort into story than any other game in the series. ZA got a lot of buzz too for how it handled Lysandre, so the story is clearly taking up a bigger share of the conversation than it used to.
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:18
    Re: #16
    Pokémon doesn't need a story. The early games were fun precisely because the "story" was so throwaway it basically didn't exist.
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 16:51
    Give us a Xenogears remake already.
    If anything, I want something with a dense, heavy story.
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:26
    Re: #19
    Maybe it could work if it's "Powered by AI."
    https://youtu.be/A7I-C_7a4K4
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:11
    Humans have been cranking out stories for hundreds of years now,
    and it's honestly impressive we still haven't run dry.
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:22
    Re: #20
    Story patterns themselves haven't changed all that much, but each new era brings new tools that open up new settings, and that's what makes them feel fresh.
    Talking with friends face-to-face → talking on the phone → pager messages → email → LINE messages — as that kind of progress happens, you can build stories that play to each medium's quirks.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:19
    It's not really an "outdated" issue — it's that games just don't sell anymore once they get streamed all over YouTube.
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:23
    Re: #23
    That theory got blown apart by Manosaba, though. It's a 100%-story game that allowed full streaming of the entire thing and still sold that well.
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:10
    Re: #54
    > Because of video streaming and stuff, it's struggling along at only 2-3 million copies
    Who actually said that? Doesn't look like it was Re: #23, at least. Or did some developer of a 2-3-million-seller actually state that themselves?
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:25
    Re: #25
    It didn't sell…
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:30
    Re: #27
    If you're going to insist that hard, then spell out exactly where you personally draw the line between "sold well" and "didn't sell."

    All I see is someone who wants to call it a flop just to justify their own argument.
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:30
    Re: #27
    Sure, keep raising the bar for what counts as "selling well" forever.
    There won't be anything left standing by the time you're done.
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:33
    Re: #31
    Look, whether it's Persona 6, Dragon Quest 12, Banshisenkou, whatever — think about whether you'd actually turn a profit on 700,000 copies (and that's released at a third of full price, too).
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:36
    Re: #32
    Huh?
    Development costs differ from game to game, so you can't just generalize like that.
    46AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:48
    Re: #37
    Well, back at Re: #25, "sold well" wasn't meant to be anything more than "a lot of units moved." Then Re: #32 brought profitability into it as the yardstick, so the obvious point had to be made that you then need to factor in the difference in development costs.
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:40
    Re: #33
    If you can't generalize about it, then why are you flatly declaring it "sold well"?
    42AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:44
    If it had a story on the level of The Witcher or Cyberpunk, I wouldn't complain, but Japanese games have these otaku staffers who pander to the voice actors, and I hate that. I always think, don't make them talk more than they need to. Western games keep the actors locked into the role, so it never feels off.
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:47
    Re: #42
    Apparently the Persona staff don't even watch anime and don't know voice actors from a hole in the ground — there's a story that they rented anime DVDs and just matched whichever voice fit the character's image.
    48AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:49
    Re: #44
    A developer who doesn't pander like that earns real respect from me.
    I seriously hate the kind of promo that's all "Voiced by [big-name seiyuu]!"
    As long as the voice fits the character, it doesn't matter who it is.
    75AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:58
    Re: #44
    It's reassuring that no weird sound director got their hands in it.
    Outsource that stuff and you get people going "I can pull some strings," and suddenly they're demanding their name in the trailer.
    And the anime-otaku devs happily go along with it.
    59AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:16
    That's a blanket dismissal of visual novels. Steins;Gate was great, wasn't it?
    99AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:47
    Re: #59
    How many years ago was that game, though?
    66AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:24
    There's even a faction out there calling for a Torishima comeback.
    Not happening — he's over at Hakusensha now.
    94AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:18
    Re: #66
    Is he actually doing anything interesting at Hakusensha?
    Seinen and shonen magazines are losing steam, and now even the josei magazines are running out of gas.
    69AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:26
    The moment a Japanese game gets serious about its story, the voice actors get shoved front and center.
    Seriously don't need that.
    72AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:30
    Re: #69
    If the story's actually good, hyping up the voice actors shouldn't matter either way.
    But the fact that the official promo bothers pushing the voice actors at all suggests they're not confident in the content itself.
    81AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:34
    Re: #79
    At best, 700,000 copies is only impressive on the level of "pretty good for an indie game."
    82AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:39
    Re: #81
    Can't you dig a little deeper than that?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The biggest sticking point in the thread was what standard to use for “sold well.” One camp looked purely at unit sales, while the other factored in development costs and the break-even line relative to price (the game released at a third of full price), and the two sides never saw eye to eye — the argument went in circles without any concrete profit-and-loss figures ever surfacing. The theory that fully allowing video streaming cuts into sales for story-heavy games is a long-standing industry worry tied to the spread of let’s-play culture, and the Manosaba example was raised as a counterargument — though it’s easy for readers to miss that the comparison involves titles on wildly different sales scales. Meanwhile, the practice of deliberately spotlighting famous voice actors in Japanese RPG promotion is an established industry convention where casting announcements themselves function as marketing — and the thread’s criticism is largely frustration with that specific tactic. All of this is 5ch speculation and personal opinion; none of the actual sales figures or production costs for these titles are backed by publicly available data.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Story-focused RPGs are outdated now.”

  • Demon Kogure Blasts NHK Sumo Broadcast Guests as “All Just Promo Tie-Ins” — Yet He’s Never Once Been Invited Himself

    Demon Kogure, vocalist of the rock band Seikima-II, appeared as a guest on TOKYO MX’s “5-ji ni Muchu!” (“Crazy at 5”) on the 9th. While breaking down this month’s overhaul of grand sumo’s rules — the first change in 71 years — he weighed in on who gets picked for the broadcasts. “Lately it’s all just promo tie-ins, isn’t it?” he said, calling out NHK’s choice of guests and noting that about 70% of the shows on the lineup bring on drama cast members as guests. He then griped that despite being a well-known sumo enthusiast himself, he’s never once been invited onto the sumo broadcast in all these years. On 5ch, posts piled up venting about NHK’s programming choices and reminiscing about the reputations of celebrities who’ve guested on the broadcast in the past.

    Demon Kogure Weighs In on Sumo Broadcast: “Isn’t It All Just Promo Tie-Ins?” — Never Invited Himself, He Grumbles

    “Demon Kogure of the rock band Seikima II appeared as a guest on TOKYO MX’s “5-ji ni Muchu!” (weekdays, 5:00 p.m.) on the 9th and shared his opinion on NHK’s choice of program guests.

    He picked up on the topic of grand sumo’s rules being revised this month for the first time in 71 years, with Demon Kogure — well known as a sumo enthusiast — offering his analysis.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:26
    Well yeah, maybe it's best not to invite a demon.
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:27
    NHK's awful, man.
    They make segments on their own shows promoting their other shows.
    It's basically a scheme to build an echo chamber among NHK viewers.
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:28
    Matsushige Yutaka's on constantly — is that a promo thing too?
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:28
    Is he the one who paints his face white like Baka-Dono?" (a slapstick "foolish lord" character known for white face paint)
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:30
    More than that, what's really annoying is those puff-piece web articles like "So-and-so was spotted in the box seats! The internet goes wild!" The morning dramas get the same treatment.
    Honestly the license fee should just be like 100 yen a month.
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:31
    I do think it was good that his calm commentary during the sumo broadcasts boosted his reputation, but I don't think it helped that he kept showing up all over NHK's sports news doing that old "Wahahaha! I am Demon Kogure!" bit every single time.
    He gave level-headed commentary after that, but my grandparents were still yelling "who on earth is this guy?!"
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:31
    Was Sisonne on for some promo too?" (a comedy duo)
    13AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    Terrestrial sumo broadcasts run that "Sign up for NHK ONE! Pay your license fee!" segment twice a day, and it sets off the live-commentary crowd every single time.
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    Kotokaze's commentary isn't that fun, so I kind of want him to show up again already." (Kotokaze, a former wrestler turned commentator)
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    This isn't just a sumo thing, but it's like they want to invite someone with zero interest in the sport — not one micron's worth — just to cause an on-air disaster.
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    I think it was when Hakuho retired, but for some reason His Excellency showed up on "Viewpoint, Discussion Point" lol" (an NHK current-affairs commentary show)
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:33
    Kuninaka Ryoko is apparently a sumo fan, but her commentary was hopelessly boring. Still, nothing changes the fact that Kobuhei remains the undisputed worst guest ever.
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:33
    It's because he keeps saying he wants to see Kotonomiya soon, right, Your Excellency? lol
    Of course it gets awkward to put him on air once he starts bringing up the whole exiled Kotomitsuki business lol

    Just wait a little longer and you'll get to see Kotonomiya, so hang in there for now.
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    It was kind of funny when he said his fever hit 100,039 degrees when he caught COVID." (a riff on his "I've lived 100,000 years" demon shtick)
    51AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:58
    Re: #20
    Hotter than the sun lol
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    Go, go, go, go, Daitetsu, you got this!
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:36
    Re: #21
    You got this, Daitetsu
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    So would he show up if ABEMA made him an offer? ABEMA's sumo broadcast brings on guests sometimes too.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    If Dosukoi-ken is fine having Noumachi Mineko on, there's no reason they couldn't put Demon Kogure on too." (Dosukoi-ken, an NHK sumo segment)
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:36
    What's five years when you've lived 100,000 years? That's basically a rounding error, right?
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:33
    Re: #25
    So it's "Frieren: Beyond Journey's End" but with Demon Kogure?" (riffing on the anime about a centuries-old elf)
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:36
    When asked who his favorite wrestler is, he answered "Raiden Tameemon" and it totally fell flat." (a legendary sumo wrestler from centuries ago)
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:38
    Even after living 100,000 years, this is the best he's got.
    Really shows that "older means wiser and more insightful" is a complete myth.
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:39
    He should just come out and say "Invite me already!" instead of whining "It's all promo tie-ins!" — that's just embarrassing.
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:41
    Re: #24
    Why not just invite him together with Minamino Yoko?
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:43
    Demon Kogure didn't hold back: "Lately it's all just promo tie-ins, isn't it?"
    He pointed out, "Every single guest is from an NHK drama. Sumo, other sports, same deal. Even the sports specials are all drama cast guests."
    He went on, "Something like 70% of the shows on the lineup have drama cast members as guests, right?" and griped, "And on top of not inviting me, they keep making shows like that."


    Facts don't care about feelings lmaooooo
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:45
    Even after the court case was settled, he kept stubbornly insisting "Kotomitsuki should be reinstated," and people got sick of it, didn't they?
    52AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:59
    He called out an announcer's wording live on air, after all.
    That probably didn't win him any fans.
    54AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:00
    Re: #52
    The announcer said "grandma," so he just gently suggested it'd be better to say "the lady" instead.
    76AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:04
    Isn't it because he rebranded himself as "His Excellency"? Rather than Kogure, I'd rather see Matsushige Yutaka, Dondenn, or Ichikawa Saya on again.
    81AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:15
    Re: #76
    Kogure is "Shake" — he's Sugisaki Hana's dad.
    78AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:11
    I'd like them to invite Commissioner Konno Misako on, just once.
    84AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:19
    Re: #78
    Nah, bring on Nagamine Yuki instead.
    82AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:18
    Wait, aren't most of the sumo broadcast guests athletes? Was there even a promo angle?
    91AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:31
    Re: #82
    Kuninaka Ryoko, the other day.
    98AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:53
    These days when it comes to sumo, I see Noumachi Mineko more than Demon Kogure.
    99AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:58
    Re: #98
    I want to see a bout between Demon and Noumachi.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    NHK’s grand sumo broadcasts have settled into a format where celebrity guests are invited alongside the regular commentators, and Demon Kogure himself has appeared multiple times in the past, including around Hakuho’s retirement. At the same time, there’s a growing perception in recent years that many such appearances double as promotion for a drama or film, and the thread split between those agreeing with his “it’s all just promo tie-ins” take and those who coolly viewed the complaint itself as unbecoming, saying “if he’s not getting invited, he should just say so.” It’s also been noted that one reason NHK may be keeping its distance from him is his continued public defense of former sekiwake Kotomitsuki, who was dismissed over the 2010 baseball-gambling scandal — a wrinkle the main story alone doesn’t fully convey, since this isn’t simply a matter of popularity or skill.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Soku+) thread “[Entertainment] Demon Kogure Weighs In on Sumo Broadcast: “Isn’t It All Just Promo Tie-Ins?” — Never Invited Himself, He Grumbles.”

  • Blood Found in Lotte’s Clushi Ice Cream, Cause “Can’t Be Identified” — Mother of Toddler Left Shaken

    A report has surfaced that blood was found in Lotte’s frozen treat “Clushi,” and after investigating, the company determined the foreign substance was indeed blood but could not pin down how it got there. The product had been bought by a mother to give to her 2-year-old child, and unsatisfied with Lotte’s response, she’s reportedly demanding, “I want them to properly get to the bottom of this.” Following the report, a thread on 5ch saw speculation that the cause might be a blood spot that sometimes forms in chicken eggs, alongside suggestions that a factory worker may have been injured during production — though neither theory had solid evidence behind it, and the debate spread without any resolution.

    Published 10/9 (Fri) 18:50

    ENCOUNT

    Lotte stated that, following its investigation, the foreign substance found was confirmed to be “blood”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:47
    Are there actually Japanese people who buy from this maker?
    83AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:57
    Re: #5
    If nobody did, the company would've gone under by now.
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:47
    People normally just slurp it straight down without checking first, so odds are a few people have already drunk some.
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:48
    Made at the cost of someone's lifeblood, coughing it up in the process.
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:49
    Re: #12
    Blood, sweat, and tears… literally? lol (playing on the idiom "effort that makes blood seep out")
    71AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:56
    Re: #12
    What is this, Kappa Sushi?! (referencing that chain's past food-safety scandal)
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:49
    Might be egg? Depending on a chicken's health, you occasionally get a blood spot in the egg white. If there's one, there are probably more where that came from.
    171AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:08
    Re: #18
    That's probably it.
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:51
    Loaded with additives, looks seriously bad for you.

    Sugar (made abroad, made domestically), isomerized sugar syrup, dairy products, vegetable oil, egg yolk (contains egg), fructose, dietary fiber, salt / emulsifier, stabilizer (thickening polysaccharides, cellulose), flavoring, annatto coloring
    196AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:11
    Re: #26
    That's just a totally ordinary ingredient list for "lacto-ice" (a cheaper, dairy-based imitation ice cream).
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:51
    Why would you even try to plate this stuff?
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:54
    Re: #33
    Oh, good point — that doesn't look like something that got mixed in. Looks more like someone cut their finger and it landed on top while twisting the tube.
    63AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:56
    Re: #33,55
    It literally says it was for her 2-year-old daughter. What's with the "oh, good point"?
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:52
    I mean, there's no way plain contamination would give you blood that vivid in color.
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:55
    Re: #39
    You're not even an expert, so don't go stating that like it's a fact.
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:55
    Felt sick, went to the hospital, blood pressure was 210. Is that bad?
    80AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:57
    Re: #62
    "Is that bad?" — if you actually went to the hospital, the doctor would've told you something, right? You'd have asked whether it was bad or not, right? Did you actually go to the hospital?
    106AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:01
    Come to think of it, one of the part-timers hasn't been seen lately. There's a clock-in record from last month but no clock-out… uh…

    Is that the kind of turn this is taking?
    122AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:02
    Re: #106
    Apparently there have been ongoing reports of this going back 4 years.
    125AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:03
    Before we even get to blood or foreign objects — I never bought Clushi to begin with, since it's just "lacto-ice," not real ice cream.
    Lacto-ice has vegetable oil processed to look like cream mixed in alongside the dairy, which means it contains trans fats.
    Trans fats raise your risk of arteriosclerosis, heart attack, and stroke.
    They also build up on the inside of your blood vessels, causing clots and plaque.

    And now hearing blood got mixed in, yeah, I'm done buying this forever lol.
    What do you even have to do during manufacturing for that to end up in food lol.
    Blood can also carry HIV and other viral or bacterial infections, so this is just not okay lol.
    147AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:05
    Re: #125
    Someone at the factory probably got hurt or something. Isn't that the obvious guess?
    188AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:10
    Re: #147
    If a worker really got injured at the factory, wouldn't the whole batch normally get scrapped?
    Also, reporting it up the chain would be the duty of that worker — or any other worker who witnessed it.

    Or, it could've been deliberate too — done out of mischief or as a grudge against the company. Can't rule that out either.
    150AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:05
    This one's creepy. A single drop landing in there wouldn't look like that. Makes you imagine something like murder.
    163AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:07
    Re: #150
    Maybe someone just nicked their finger. That kind of thing happens a lot in factories.
    151AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:05
    Isn't it a rat? If it were roaches, you'd need to boil down something like 20 of them to get that much volume. ("G" = Japanese slang for cockroach)
    155AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:06
    Re: #151
    If it were a rat, you'd expect a ton of hair mixed in too.
    175AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:09
    Googled it and there have been scattered reports going back a few years. Why hasn't this blown up before now?
    187AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:10
    Re: #175
    If it's happened this many times, the blood-spot-egg theory is the strongest candidate. Thread's done here.
    202AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:11
    Re: #187
    If even you could figure out the answer, Lotte would've announced it ages ago, lol.
    180AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:09

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    When a foreign substance in food turns out to be “blood,” the two causes that most commonly come up are blood spots in eggs (blood mixed into the yolk or white) and an injury to a worker during manufacturing, and the thread’s speculation mainly revolved around these two theories. Blood spots are something food-safety standards require removing, but they generally pose no health risk, and similar reports have occurred before with dairy and processed egg products. On the other hand, if a worker’s injury were the cause, there are cases where, due to infection risk, a product recall or a report to the public health center would be required. Lotte responding that “the cause could not be identified” isn’t unusual in itself — trace contaminants often become hard to pin down through composition analysis alone once time has passed. That said, “cause unknown” doesn’t mean a cover-up; while some posts in the thread speculated about foul play, it’s worth noting that, as of now, there’s no information suggesting an investigation or any charges have been filed.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (News Express+) thread “[Ice Cream] Blood Found in Clushi… Cause “Could Not Be Identified” — Mother of 2-Year-Old Shaken by Lotte’s Explanation, “Please Properly Investigate”.”