Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Yakitori Chain Torikizoku Raises All-Item Price to ¥410, a ¥20 Hike From October, Citing Soaring Ingredient and Labor Costs

    Izakaya chain Torikizoku has announced it will raise its flat all-item price to ¥410 starting October 1st. This ¥20 increase is its first in one year and five months, since May 2025, and aims to absorb rising costs for ingredients like domestic chicken and vegetables, as well as soaring energy and labor costs. The all-you-can-eat plan “Toriki Banquet” will also rise to ¥4,100. On 5ch threads, complaints that wages aren’t keeping pace clashed with comments noting it’s still cheaper than a hotel buffet or all-you-can-eat yakiniku, while plenty of posts nostalgically recalled the old flat prices of ¥280 or ¥300.

    Eternal Hospitality Group announced on the 10th that it will raise the flat all-item price at its Torikizoku izakaya chain by ¥20 to ¥410, effective October 1st. This is the first price hike since a ¥20 increase in May 2025, a gap of one year and five months. Through the price increase, the company aims to absorb rising costs for ingredients such as domestic chicken and vegetables, as well as energy and labor.

    Torikizoku sells all items, including yakitori and alcoholic drinks, at a single flat price, and operates 696 stores as of the end of August. The price of its all-you-can-eat banquet plan, “Toriki Bansankai” (Toriki Dinner Party), will also rise by ¥200 to ¥4,100.

    Nikkei

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:29
    "When are wages ever going to catch up?"
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:34
    Re: #9
    Bureaucrats' pay is going up just fine.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:32
    It's turned into food only nobles can afford now (a pun on "kizoku"/nobility in the chain's name)
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:34
    Re: #19
    Even after the hike, you can still stuff yourself on chicken-breast skewers plus rice and egg for just ¥820.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:36
    Re: #29
    Wouldn't Yayoiken (a teishoku set-meal chain) do just as well…?
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:36
    Isn't Torikizoku basically doomed at this rate?
    Especially with the 1% consumption tax bump on top.
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:46
    Re: #35
    As the "cost-ratio guys" love to point out, restaurants typically price things at 300-400% of ingredient cost.
    A 9% consumption-tax difference is basically a rounding error, so it's normal to assume it barely matters — claims that it has a huge impact are just propaganda from people who oppose the tax cut.
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:38
    Re: #1
    Wish they'd let the all-you-can-eat plan start from just two people.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:41
    Re: #50
    Toriki-zoku: "No way. Round up four people."
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:39
    Back in the Shuntokumichi and Nagase days it was ¥280 tax included.
    I went a lot since it was my local spot.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:40
    Re: #52
    The Shuntokumichi branch still runs a ¥250 tax-included flat-price campaign regularly.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:42
    Is this tax-excluded? At this price there's no real reason to go out of your way for Toriki.
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:42
    Re: #69
    Toriki-zoku's price is tax-included.

    Also there's no otoshi (obligatory starter charge), so just multiply ¥410 by the number of items you order.
    73AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:42
    Re: #56
    Maybe that's the revived store.
    Mine was back in the late 1990s — a loose era when even high schoolers could just walk right in.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:43
    Re: #73
    That's the revival's first store.

    Of course, during the campaign a reservation is mandatory —
    people line up for an hour just to book one.
    98AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:48
    At this price, wouldn't you be better off going to a slightly pricier hotel buffet?
    Well, no yakitori there, but still.
    115AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:52
    Re: #98
    The Hilton's dinner buffet is ¥9,800 with drinks sold separately, so with alcohol included it'd run more than three times what you'd pay at Torikizoku.
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:49
    If the banquet plan is ¥4,100, that means it's the better deal once you eat and drink more than 10 items, right?
    While they're at it with the price hike, they should let solo customers just walk in for the banquet plan too.
    They could poach customers from places that won't let a lone diner do all-you-can-drink.
    118AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    Re: #103
    Toriki-zoku: "No. Round up four people."
    132AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:55
    The root cause was COVID, and what finished it off was inflation plus customer and staff shortages.

    Look at eating out in America — even figuring ¥100 to the dollar it's absurdly expensive, same in Europe; dining out being crazy expensive is basically the norm there.
    Japan's heading that way too — the low-margin, high-volume model just isn't sustainable anymore.
    141AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:57
    Re: #132
    Ichiro, which opened a location in New York, starts at ¥800 a plate after all.
    133AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:56
    Nobody's going to bother going anymore.
    It only got popular because it was ¥300.
    143AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:58
    Re: #133
    Young customers especially are going to bolt.
    139AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:57
    You could just grill your own yakitori at home.
    158AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:00
    Re: #139
    Chicken breast is actually hard to cook so it tastes good.
    This place is perfect for refueling on protein after you've wrecked your muscles doing the Big 3 lifts (squat, bench, deadlift).
    145AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:58
    Torikizoku is a place you go to eat kamameshi (rice cooked in a small pot).
    150AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:59
    Re: #145
    Why are kamameshi and katsudon the same price as edamame or cold tofu, are you idiots, Toriki?
    153AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:59
    Re: #145
    Lol, true.
    Regulars order it first thing.
    169AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:02
    Yakitori is ¥205 a skewer, right??

    If you buy frozen yakitori at Trial (a discount supermarket) and grill it yourself, it's ¥50 a skewer.
    203AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:09
    Re: #169
    Guess gas and labor are free then?
    And with frozen ones you probably can't even pick the cut, right?
    174AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:04
    Say one person orders 7 items, that's ¥2,870.
    Still feels like a cheap amount to me.
    179AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:05
    Re: #174
    That's not cheap.
    There are plenty of places where ¥3,000 gets you all-you-can-eat-and-drink.
    198AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:08
    Re: #174
    If I'm paying ¥2,800, I'd rather go to an all-you-can-eat yakiniku place…

    https://www.yakiniku-king.jp/menu_all/lunch/
    175AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:04
    I mean, is this even really Torikizoku anymore…
    At this point I'd pick Daikichi without hesitation.
    178AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:04
    Re: #175
    Wait, what are you planning to have bought up there…? (Daikichi is also the name of a pawn-shop chain, hence the joke)
    185AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:06
    Re: #115
    Still looks better than dropping ¥4,100 at Torikizoku…
    202AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:09
    Re: #185
    The chicken-tare katsudon at 270g for ¥390 is plenty.
    Even after the hike to ¥410, one ¥500 coin fills you up and you still get change back.
    It's a true friend to the common people.

    Background and Talking Points

    Torikizoku is a major flat-price izakaya chain operating 696 stores as of the end of August, and this ¥20 increase is its first since May 2025. Price hikes at restaurant chains are driven not just by ingredient costs but also by rising labor and utility costs, so this isn’t a move unique to Torikizoku. Opinions in the thread were split on how the consumption tax affects pricing — some posts argued that since ingredient costs run only 30-40% of the selling price, the impact of tax-rate changes is minor, while others debated the tax-inclusive pricing display. Comparisons with other formats, like hotel buffets and all-you-can-eat yakiniku, were also lively, and because of the flat-price format, the per-item increase is immediately noticeable — which seems to be driving the split reactions. For customers who remember the old ¥280 or ¥300 prices, the cumulative size of the increases over time is likely also a factor.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Torikizoku Raises All-Item Price to ¥410, a ¥20 Hike From October, Citing Soaring Ingredient and Labor Costs.”

  • King of Cont 2026: Ten Finalists Set — Nanamagari Return After a Decade, Dow 90000 Field a Record Eight-Person Lineup

    The ten finalist acts for TBS’s “King of Cont 2026” (airing October 17) were announced at a press conference on September 4. Nanamagari made the final for the first time in 10 years, while Dow 90000 will compete with a lineup of eight — the largest in the competition’s history. On 5ch’s Geinou Sports Express+ board, posters traded takes on Dow 90000, with some arguing they’re “more of a theater troupe than a sketch act” and others chalking their inclusion up to buzz value, alongside assessments of finals regulars like Nippon no Shacho and Kaeru-tei and comparisons with the Double Impact champions, as predictions and personal favorites flew back and forth over the finalist lineup.

    The finalist press conference for “Kyujin Box presents King of Cont 2026” (TBS, airing October 17) was held in Tokyo on September 4.

    It was announced that ten acts in total will advance to the finals: Yahhoi (Nagai / Izumi), Aishou wa Iiyone (Evi Land / Yadayamukun), Jeradon (Attack Nishimoto / Kamichii), Dow 90000 (Sho Hasumi / Shota Sonoda / Ryoya Iihara / Yuta Uehara / Tamaki Michigami / Momoyoko Nakajima / Ayaka Kutsuna / Reina Yoshihara), Yadan (Long Size Ito / Honma Kid / Toru Nakajima), The Mummy (Yohei Hayashida / Takashi Sakai), Nanamagari (Naoto Morishita / Yuta Hase), Ganso Ichigo-chan (Yuji Uemura / Hyper Perochan), Kaeru-tei (Shuhei Nakano / Iwakura), and Nippon no Shacho (Classic Tsuji / Ketsu).

    ◆ Kaeru-tei’s Iwakura, on making the final for the first time in three years: “I just exploded [with emotion]”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:25
    I know Hasumi gets a lot of hate, but I think he's putting in the work.
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:26
    Nanamagari isn't even funny, yet somehow they're always in the final. Mystery act.
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:29
    Re: #3
    Nanamagari's material just isn't TV-friendly lol
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:40
    Re: #3
    It's specifically King of Cont that's been 10 years for them
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:26
    They should bring back King of Comedy too while they're at it (a separate, now-defunct comedy contest)
    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:27
    First time in a major award-race final for Dow, I think?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:29
    Haven't seen much of Dow's material, but Hasumi's funny
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:31
    Dow's more of a theater troupe than a sketch act, honestly
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:32
    Re: #11
    How are they different?
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:37
    Re: #11
    Hurry up and explain how they're different then
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:33
    Re: #8
    People who eat this stuff up on shows like "Enta no Kamisama" (a mainstream comedy variety show) definitely won't get it at all
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:40
    Re: #19
    I don't even like Enta no Kamisama, but I still hate Nanamagari.
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:33
    Hyper Perochan's basically filling the "Ranjatai's Kunizaki" slot (the wildcard chaos-agent role)
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:35
    Kaeru-tei's about the only one that looks worth watching
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:35
    Dow, Choshinjuku, Jovijoba —
    anyone who calls this bunch funny has bottom-tier comedy taste
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:36
    Re: #23
    "Comedy taste score" lol
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:40
    Re: #23
    I could kind of get it if it was just Dow 90000 and Jovijoba,
    but throwing Choshinjuku in there too makes it feel like "oh, it's just the big-group category" lol
    They're way too different in style
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:37
    Can't help but see it as: Nippon no Shacho isn't satisfied with just winning Double Impact,
    and still wants results in a heavier-weight award race
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:39
    Re: #26
    Double Impact's got no leg to stand on then, huh
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:48
    Re: #28
    Magical Love Liars are in King of Cont too though
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:53
    Re: #28
    Still, Double Impact is the comedy contest that makes the most sense to me —
    not because the same acts do both,
    but because the genuinely funny ones actually win it
    Takion were undeniably funny too
    and Kaeru-tei lost because they were undeniably not funny
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:37
    Don't need Dow —
    just have Nakajima-san and Hasumi do manzai
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:39
    I've only seen them individually on Zao (a comedy battle show), so Dow's the one I'm interested in
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:40
    Re: #29
    They're in the ABC finals too though (the ABC Grand Prix, another comedy contest)
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:39
    Dow 9000's probably the favorite. And if Nakano goes off and doesn't lose to Iwakura, then Kaeru-tei.

    Nanamagari can't win unless they break out of the parallel-world bit, and I'm getting tired of Mummy's panicking-Sakai routine too.

    Though I do want to keep rooting for Yadan, who never seem to break through.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:40
    Guess Magical Love Liars didn't make it, even though they went with a radio-recording bit
    Who knew that among the big-group acts, Dow-90-thousand would get ahead of Plan 9
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    If Dow's allowed in, then any theater troupe could get in
    Can you even call that a sketch act?
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49
    Re: #42
    There are plenty of acts out there who just haven't gotten results, same as Dow 90000
    Loveletters' Tamariguchi is a former theater actor too
    What makes Dow 90000 good at this is probably the whole "this feels different from anything before" image-building that comes with how they're marketed
    57AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:50
    Re: #42
    There's no clear line there
    Tons of comedians came up through theater troupes
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:50
    Wait, Dow? Seriously? I thought they were like the poster child for "not funny"
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:55
    Re: #55
    Don't worry
    They're still just as unfunny as ever
    This is clearly the buzz-value slot
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:52
    Re: #51
    It's been a while since Magical Love Liars won M-1,
    so I feel like the real reason is just "kinda want to feel that award-race atmosphere again," you know?
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:55
    Re: #59
    They've kept popping up here and there even after winning though
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:56
    Re: #61
    Double Impact does feel like the kind of thing where the not-that-funny guy wins though
    Safe, I guess…
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:04
    Re: #65
    It ends up looking like a "jack of all trades" competition
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:05
    Re: #65
    It's like a restaurant that serves both Japanese soba and Chinese food — neither one's any good. That, lol

    Background and key points of this discussion

    King of Cont is a long-running TBS sketch comedy competition dating back to 2008, ranked alongside the M-1 Grand Prix as one of the major comedy award races in Japan. The thread’s disagreement centered mainly on how to categorize Dow 90000: some argued that their eight-person lineup and heavily narrative-driven style makes them “more of a theater troupe than a sketch act,” while others held that their inclusion reflects buzz value and marketing savvy rather than competition results. Meanwhile, opinions on Nanamagari split between “not TV-friendly” critiques and fans defending them precisely because they don’t want the act to break out. One point worth flagging: the “funny/not funny” verdicts in the thread are just individual 5ch posters’ opinions — they don’t represent judging results or broader public opinion. The final airs October 17, and the actual rankings will be decided by the performances on the day.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou Sports Express+) thread “[Entertainment] “King of Cont” Ten Finalists Announced: Nanamagari Back After 10 Years, Dow 90000 Field Largest-Ever Lineup.”

  • Kazlaser Trashes Highly-Rated Soba Shop: “Mushy… Better Off Not Eating It”

    Kazlaser (42), one half of the comedy duo Maple Chogokin, shared on his YouTube channel an episode about visiting a soba shop with glowing online reviews. The soba that came out was only about toothpick-length, cut into ragged bits and piled into a heap, with a texture so mushy he couldn’t even make out the aroma — in the end he had to scoop it up with a spoon. Following this scathing review, 5ch users debated the reliability of online reviews and which chain restaurants actually serve decent soba.

    9/10 (Thu) 19:45

    Kazlaser (42), of the comedy duo Maple Chogokin, appeared in an episode of the YouTube channel “Kazlaser and Shoinji’s Chill Room [Official],” updated by the 10th, where he described being let down at a restaurant that had rave online reviews.

    Kazlaser said he visited a soba shop with high ratings online. The place had the look of a long-established, storied restaurant, and he’d gone in with high hopes — but, he said with a wry laugh, “Every single piece of soba that came out was only about as long as a toothpick. It was cut into ragged little bits, piled up in a heap. It was so mushy I couldn’t even tell what it smelled like, and since I couldn’t pick it up, I ended up just scooping it with a spoon.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    I've had this happen too — ate at a ramen place with huge lines and rave reviews, and the flavor was shockingly bland.
    I figured they must've forgotten to add the seasoning and planned to go back and check… but the place went under before I could.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    Unrelated, but tell us the name of a soba shop you've been to recently.
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Wonder which shop it was.
    Any of you have a guess?
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    I think he should just stick to talking about the Self-Defense Forces.
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Is this popular with inbound foreign tourists?
    I hear they can't slurp noodles, so maybe that's why the soba's cut short.
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Given how it looked, maybe he got served the version made for foreigners who don't slurp their noodles?
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    If it's toothpick-length, that means:
    the flour is old
    it's been sitting a while since it was made
    the water mixing (a key step in working the dough) was botched
    it was overboiled
    it got rinsed too roughly

    Basically every sin a soba shop could possibly commit, all in one bowl.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    A place using machines beats a badly hand-made indie shop any day.
    After that it all comes down to the owner's eye for ingredients and the dipping sauce.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    He's clearly been on edge ever since he married actress Fumi Nikaido, lol.
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Re: #17
    Probably not getting to eat as much meat as he wants.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:34
    Re: #17
    He complains about something every single day.
    Maybe he's just frustrated.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Celebrities' talk-show stories are always complaints about restaurants or taxis.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Basically, be suspicious of anything rated 4.5 or higher.
    3.5–4.2 is the safe zone.
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:09
    Re: #19
    Not a restaurant, but check out this motorcycle shop — it's sitting at 4.9, which is nuts.
    Apparently you get a discount for leaving a good review.
    The comments are blatant about it too, it's bad.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:32
    Fuji Soba, Yudetaro, and Hakone Soba (popular standing-soba chains) are all reliable.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:37
    Read the comments from people who left 1-star reviews and you'll get a pretty good sense of what the place is really like. Ignore the 5-stars — those can be bought. Some places even hire people through gig-work apps just to leave 5-star reviews.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:40
    Does genuinely good soba even exist? I went to one of those trendy soba shops in Matsumoto, and honestly couldn't tell the difference from boiling dried ni-hachi soba (80% buckwheat, 20% wheat noodles) at home. If anything, the dried stuff was better. If you actually know a good soba shop, let me know.
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    Re: #29
    The stand-and-eat counter "Kasai" in front of Nakano Station.
    The owner has a bad reputation for customer service, but the food's good.
    Lots of repeat customers.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:42
    Just reading this makes it sound like they did it on purpose — what a terrible shop.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:43
    Maybe they just didn't like Kazu?
    Well, even if they didn't like him, a shop that tanks its own quality out of spite has no pride and is trash. (^_^;)
    Though places like Gyoza no Ohsho (a chain) really can vary wildly depending on which cook is on duty.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:45
    Not sure if he's stressed out or what, but lately it's been nothing but complaints and nitpicking from him.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:45
    Has Kazu's personality changed? He never used to be the type to say stuff like this.
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    But hey, his wife Fumi Nikaido must have fallen for him including this side of him, right?
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    Isn't Kazu supposed to be able to judge quality? The guy's nicknamed "Hyakushiki" (walking encyclopedia) for his trivia knowledge, after all.
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    He used to have such a positive-talk image — what happened to Kazu?
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    A lot of city shops with long lines really aren't all that great.
    The udon place in Umeda I went to today charged ¥1,450, but I'm sure Marugame Seimen or Sukesan Udon (popular udon chains) taste better.
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:07
    Re: #42
    Udon's such a simple food, it can't be that different no matter where you eat it.
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:47
    This guy only ever complains or badmouths stuff.
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:48
    Any line in Tokyo — if there's a low-tier college ("F-rank" university) nearby, you'll get a line of college girls no matter what the place is.
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:48
    I like Donbei tempura soba (the instant cup noodles) better than what actual shops serve.
    https://video.fc2.com/ja/content/20220228U77Wdv4z
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:48
    The ownership probably changed hands, started prioritizing profit, and stopped putting effort into making the soba properly.
    And then started using fake reviewers (sakura) to boost the ratings.
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:50
    Former Takeo mayor Keisuke Hiwatashi — the guy behind that Starbucks-in-a-library project — his café is rated 4.9 lol
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:53
    Other countries don't have a noodle-slurping culture, so even instant cup noodles overseas come cut into short pieces, right?
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:53
    Toothpick-length noodles — at that point it's basically sobagaki (buckwheat dumplings, not even shaped like noodles).
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:04
    Chain restaurant soba that's surprisingly good:

    Tendon Tenya
    Nakau
    Komoro Soba
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:05
    Re: #72
    What about Ogisoseifun?
    Their operations are a mess
    Not tasty
    The only good part was the free sobayu (the soba-boiling water you drink at the end).
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:07
    As someone from western Japan, I've never really gotten this whole "soba aroma" thing.
    I assume it means something like the smell of soba tea, but if so I'd just drink soba tea instead — and you season sobayu with the dipping sauce before drinking it anyway, right?
    I don't get it, I'll just have zaru udon.
    85AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:10
    Re: #77
    The noodles themselves don't need to smell like anything.
    What matters is the texture and the flavor of the dipping sauce.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Online reviews typically run on a 5-star system, but in recent years there have been reports of businesses nudging ratings upward — offering discounts for good reviews, or having part-time staff post favorable ones — which has made many consumers wary of shops rated 4.5 stars or higher. The “soba cut to toothpick length” described in the thread points to specific failures in the cooking process itself — stale flour, poor dough-mixing technique, improper boiling — and is hard to write off as mere personal taste. On the other hand, the theory floated in the thread that the noodles were cut short to suit inbound tourists who supposedly can’t slurp noodles is pure speculation from commenters, with no confirmation from the shop itself. This article also leaves out baseless comments tying the story to Kazlaser’s married life, and is instead framed around the broader discussion of online restaurant review reliability.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Kazlaser Visits Highly-Rated Soba Shop… Ends Up Trashing It: “Mushy… Seriously Unbelievable. Better Off Not Eating It.”“

  • Wolverine’s Metascore Announced at 80 — Now Sliding Into the High 70s

    The Metacritic score for Marvel’s Wolverine, the new action game from Insomniac Games, has dropped from around 80 at launch into the upper 70s — sparking discussion on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. Major outlets like IGN, Eurogamer, and GameSpot all scored it in the 60s, cited as a key factor behind the drop. The thread saw a mix of reactions, from distrust of big review sites’ scoring standards to comparisons with past titles from other Sony-owned studios.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:01
    s://www.metacritic.com/game/marvels-wolverine/
    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:02
    Wait, how old was Spider-Man again?
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:02
    Shitsony lmaooooooo (a mocking portmanteau of "shit" + "Sony")
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:02
    Guess graphics alone couldn't carry it to a high score
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:04
    Sony, you've got no taste left — just quit making games and let third parties carry you
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:04
    Oh, the arm-hair game from that State of Play a while back
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:05
    Ugh…
    how much more bad news is coming…
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:05
    If it were Vega (the claw-wielding Street Fighter character), it would've sold — who even is this D-lister?
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:05
    Without the SBP boost it'd probably be sitting around 70
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:06
    If it's already like this at launch, the final score's gonna slide into the low 70s
    Insomniac really screwed this one up
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:06
    Day 4 of the "Direct"? (joking that the bad news keeps dropping like a scheduled event)
    How long is this festival gonna go on
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:06
    Save us, Death Strike Auntie! (a 5ch in-joke figure invoked when a thread's going badly)
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:07
    One outlet bumped their score from 60 to 66, and the overall still dropped to 78 — lmaooo!
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:08
    Re: #13
    If even IGN the yes-man gave it a 60, that's bad
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:09
    IGN, Eurogamer, GameSpot
    all gave it 60
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:09
    The outlets handing out 100s and 90s… are they just getting paid?
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:11
    Re: #29
    Bit late to be saying that now
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:09
    This is bad
    that's genuinely a shovelware-tier score
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:09
    The pre-release gameplay footage really only worked as negative PR
    guess even the outlets hesitated to score it high
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:10
    Says it all that the non-shill sites are the ones scoring it low lol
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:11
    At this rate it'll end without even leaving a mark! (a pun on "claw marks," fitting for Wolverine)
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:11
    Re: #37
    Give that man a cushion! lol (a TV variety-show gag for a good joke)
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:12
    Re: #37
    That was good — here, have some arm hair as a reward
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:14
    Already down 2 points lmaooo
    78 is rough lmaooo

    that's like a 7/7/6/6 in Famitsu terms (Famitsu's four-critic review format)
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:17
    Re: #53
    Wonder what Famitsu would've actually given it lol
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:15
    Not enough arm hair? (´・ω・`)
    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:18
    Re: #56
    Should've given him butt hair too
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:15
    Guess they wanted it to be like some fight-choreography scene where he just claws through anything, no matter the setting
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:17
    Re: #60
    Making a game actually hold together with voxels that brutal on performance takes real technical skill and design sense
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:16
    Slap a high score on a shovelware game and you turn into Famitsu and lose all your credibility
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:17
    Re: #67
    Too late for that already, as usual
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:16
    It's already down to 77!
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:17
    Re: #72
    It went from 71 to 78, and somehow still dropped a point 😭
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:17
    Didn't expect it to fall into the 70s


    Looks like they've already picked who's getting laid off next
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:18
    Re: #73
    Ha, I can't wait
    for the PlayStation faithful to turn on them
    PlayStation fanboy: "I always thought Insomniac was no good. SIE isn't wrong. Trash studio."

    Background and talking points

    Metacritic’s overall score is a weighted average of scores from participating outlets, and right after launch there are only a handful of reviews counted, so the number can swing sharply as new reviews come in. The “drop from the 80s into the upper 70s” discussed in the thread is largely just this kind of mid-aggregation fluctuation, and the final settled score could still move further. It’s a recurring topic in the gaming industry that big review outlets’ scores diverge from how players actually feel about a game, and this thread followed that same pattern — but the idea floated in the thread that a specific publisher is manipulating scores is pure speculation with no supporting evidence, and should be treated with caution. The background also touches on the large-scale layoffs developer Insomniac Games underwent in the past.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry board) thread “Wolverine’s Metascore Hits 80 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Mikuru Asakura vs. Shinya Aoki Set: 5ch Reacts — “Isn’t Aoki Pushing 50 by Now?”

    At the mixed martial arts event ‘Cho-RIZIN.5,’ a matchup was set between Mikuru Asakura and Shinya Aoki, and in the run-up to the fight, 5ch lit up with predictions about who had the edge. Aoki, born May 9, 1983, is a 43-year-old veteran known since his PRIDE days for slick submission grappling. Asakura, by contrast, is a popular fighter who built his name through events like BreakingDown, with some pointing out that ground fighting is his weak point. Predictions split along lines of age and track record, with some calling for an Aoki win and others betting on an Asakura punch KO, and the thread grew lively with talk spilling over into Ren Hiramoto’s judged decision on the same card and the names of veterans like Kazushi Sakuraba and Masato.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:20
    Who do the pros think wins this?
    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:25
    Isn't Aoki pushing 50 (araifi, i.e. "around 50") at this point? Mikuru's probably got this one.
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:26
    Round 1, Asakura TKOs him with punches
    Wish Aoki could win it though

    Main event's Shaidulaev
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:27
    How old is Aoki anyway?
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:35
    Re: #4
    Shinya Aoki (43)
    Born May 9, 1983

    Apparently.
    5AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:29
    Re: #1
    I'm not paying attention to this at all, so "all of Japan is watching" is just wrong.
    Pro wrestling's the only thing I care about — specifically All Japan-style promotions and joshi (women's) wrestling.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:32
    Checked their records — Asakura's opponents are all nobodies I've never heard of.
    Aoki's beaten well-known guys, so I'm calling it for Aoki.
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:33
    Why do I vaguely know the name Shinya Aoki…
    Did he juuust make it into PRIDE?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:34
    Don't know much about Aoki, but
    he's the guy whose entrance song is by Ulfuls — always gets the crowd hyped.
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:38
    Idol-boy Asakura's just been fighting nobodies like that the whole time, huh (M!LK = a jab at his looks, after the boy band)
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:42
    Ren Hiramoto's up next —
    is this Dautbek guy any good?
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:44
    Asakura's always losing, so he's weak, right?
    What's there to even watch him for?
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:45
    It's just that last time's opponent Shaidulaev was too much of a world-class monster,
    and before that, Ren Hiramoto was just too strong.

    Wasn't he winning up until then?
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:47
    Asakura's flat-out bad at grappling to begin with, so a punch KO is his only real shot.
    If he kicks, his leg's getting caught for sure — he'll get taken down and armbarred before he knows what hit him.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    The official highlights are up —
    is Hiramoto actually okay after this…?
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    Hiramoto getting the decision made no sense.
    However you slice it, that's a unanimous loss.
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:53
    As a total amateur I was like,
    "wait, THIS counts as a win?"
    Guess the pros thought so too, huh.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    Striking's a coin toss.
    Putting 1,000,000 Pelica on Aoki (Pelica = the fictional in-game currency from Monster Hunter, forum slang for a joke bet).
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:03
    Honestly, for me the real main event was supposed to be
    Don-mai vs. Lord Tomizawa,
    but that got cancelled and my hype crashed instantly.
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:03
    Aoki's scary 'cause he snaps opponents' arms like it's nothing.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    Feels like Aoki's gone from "uncle" to full-on "grandpa" at this point.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    Re: #29
    He looks like he'd be totally weak, but
    turns out he's crazy strong lol
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Say what you want, Mikuru Asakura really is strong after all.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Re: #30
    He can't beat anyone actually strong, so it's just farming easy wins off a washed-up guy in his 40s lol
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Guys with a judo background really don't hold back on wrecking joints.
    Back in the PRIDE days, Yoshida used to pop the opponent's dislocated arm back into place himself lol
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #34
    Wait, you can even do that? lol
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Seriously though —
    anyone who comes at him thinking "he's just some old man" gets destroyed instantly
    by Aoki.
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Re: #35
    If some amateur underestimated him, they'd probably get shoved down easy and end up with a broken arm lol
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Saw Sakuraba recently on some other fight-related channel — he's a genuine old man now, don't make him do this lol
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Re: #40
    Yeah, I guess you really can't ask Sakuraba to do this anymore.
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2098023633511952384/vid/avc1/1280×720/aEszo0G7SUFqoRe2.mp4
    Didn't think Aoki had slipped this much.
    Why couldn't he finish it even after taking it to the ground?
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Re: #44
    Well duh, how old do you think he is lol
    In his prime he might've just wrecked Mikuru standing, easy.
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    Re: #44
    It's like "noooo stop, pleeeease Mikuru!" 😭
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Re: #44
    Aoki's 43, right? Isn't he stopping this a bit too late…
    Guess that's just how it goes at this age.
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    If Kazushi Sakuraba doesn't have enough time to prep,
    maybe Mikuru Asakura vs. Masato (47)
    could work instead.
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Re: #48
    If it's Mikuru Asakura vs. Masato,
    I'm rooting for Asakura — obviously want him to wreck him under MMA rules lol
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:40
    Half the crowd's old-school fight nerds who've been into this forever,
    the other half's "World's Assassin" die-hards (Asakura's nickname/fanbase) and BreakingDown otaku.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:49
    Re: #64
    And that's enough to draw a crowd this big? Weird world we live in.
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:09
    Mikuru Asakura, who just chases hype with entertainment-style fights,
    versus Musashi, who's gone toe-to-toe with heavyweight monsters from all over the world —
    that gap's never going to close.

    Mikuru Asakura, getting one-sidedly beaten down and KO'd by a retired Floyd Mayweather.
    https://spread-sports.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/1664088933-1843423985.jpg

    Musashi, dropping heavyweight boxer Mercer right from the opening bell.
    https://gonkaku.jp/system/images/attachments/000/027/632/medium/image-1592885890.jpg
    Mercer would later get KO'd by Tim Sylvia in seconds in the UFC.

    Background and Key Talking Points

    RIZIN is Japan’s largest mixed martial arts promotion, with Mikuru Asakura as one of its headline draws, and ‘Cho-RIZIN.5′ is one of its special events. Shinya Aoki is a seasoned veteran who has wielded submission grappling as his weapon since the PRIDE and DEEP eras, and the thread was full of references to his track record of “breaking opponents’ arms.” Opinions split between those who valued Asakura’s name recognition and entertainment appeal and those who rated Aoki as the stronger fighter based on his and his past opponents’ records — with even the age gap (Aoki is 43) read by some as a handicap and by others as a mark of experience. Note that this thread was created before the fight started as a prediction thread, and does not include any posts reporting the actual result.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “In just one hour, the fight all of Japan’s watching for — Cho-RIZIN5: Mikuru Asakura vs. Shinya Aoki! Who do you think wins?“

  • ‘The Biggest Crash of My Life’ Looms After the AI Boom — 5ch: ‘The BOJ Will Prop It Up, Right?’

    Mark Spitznagel, founder of U.S.-based Universa Investments and known as a “Black Swan” investor, has predicted that a historic crash will hit after the AI boom runs even further. His fund reportedly keeps buying put options, taking small losses in normal times in order to aim for massive gains when a crash hits. In the thread, commenters debated whether trying to predict the trigger or timing of a crash contradicts the very definition of a “black swan,” while others argued that investors holding stocks through NISA (Japan’s tax-free investment program) have nothing to worry about as long as they don’t sell during a downturn. Stories from those who lived through the Lehman Shock also came up, with the conversation focused less on when a crash might hit than on how to react once it does.

    Once again, the “biggest crash of a lifetime” will come after the AI boom peaks — “Black Swan” investor Spitznagel’s prediction (overseas report)

    Mark Spitznagel, known as a “Black Swan” investor who aims to profit from major crashes, believes the AI boom will collapse after reaching its peak. As head of the hedge fund Universa Investments, he predicts that before the biggest crash of a lifetime arrives, there will first be an “euphoric surge.” Spitznagel described just how grueling it is to keep losing money almost every single day while waiting for a historic crash to arrive.

    Mark Spitznagel warned that while the AI boom will likely continue for now, a historic crash lies in wait beyond it.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:50
    So what happens to SoftBank Group, then?
    96AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Re: #4
    The BOJ will prop it up like always, right?
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    Re: #1 Isn't the whole point of a "black swan" that the timing and cause are unexpected and unknowable?
    88AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Re: #7
    That's why it's a firm running a monthly put-buying strategy — losing money every month, but making a fortune when the crash hits.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:56
    It's a given that Japan will be the one to pull the trigger.
    135AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:43
    Re: #17
    The US-China-Russia triangle needs to destroy each other before anyone pulls that trigger.
    196AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:10
    Re: #17
    If the BOJ keeps hiking rates aggressively,
    the bubble will burst.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:56
    The Lehman Shock was by far the hardest one to stomach.
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #18
    It halved temporarily, but I threw every last yen I had into US stocks, and it's quadrupled since then.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:00
    When exactly is this "AI boom peak" supposed to happen?
    AI is still evolving as we speak.
    Isn't the unemployment rate the thing we should actually be worried about?
    If anything, stocks will become a scramble, and we'll end up in a world where only those who hold stock get to make a living.
    170AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #27
    As an industry, railroads peaked in the 20th century, but railroad stocks peaked in the 19th. Technological progress and stock prices aren't the same thing.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    So a massive crash means every NISA investor dies, huh?
    If that actually happens, 5ch is gonna be a party lol
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    Re: #34
    To be precise, it's the weak-handed folks who cut their losses that die.
    If you can just hold on, you'll be fine as long as the stock market itself doesn't collapse entirely — that's what long-term investing is all about.
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:52
    Re: #34
    NISA is cash/spot trading, so you just don't sell.
    It's the margin traders, not the NISA crowd, who are actually going to get wiped out.
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    Re: #1
    So we're finally looking at something bigger than Lehman?
    Apparently even Warren Cromartie is cashing out his holdings to brace for the crash.
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:03
    Re: #35
    Cromartie → Buffett
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:04
    It's starting to become obvious that AI isn't generating profits proportional to the investment, and that usage-fee hikes are making it unaffordable to keep running even after adoption.
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #39
    If you look even further ahead, won't it pay for itself eventually?
    We're heading into an era where dominating AI means dominating the world.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:10
    Re: #1
    As long as people keep saying a crash is coming, it won't come.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:15
    Re: #51
    Because buybacks show up to prop it up.
    What's genuinely unsettling is when optimism becomes universal, almost sickeningly so.
    Is it that moment when TV and social media are full of "shoeshine boys" giving stock tips? (a nod to the old Wall Street tale that a market top is near once even shoeshine boys are handing out stock advice)
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:10
    If the AI boom is ever going to end, it'll be the moment AI concludes that humanity should be exterminated.
    And by then it'll already be too late — humanity will have no choice but to go extinct.
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    You should also brace for a crash that hits before the euphoria even fully builds, like the last Bitcoin four-year cycle.
    Yep, missed my chance to cash out.
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    Re: #53
    The thing with Bitcoin is that what backs its value is just way too flimsy…
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    It all comes down to how much you can buy during the crash.
    If you sell and run at a loss here, your assets are never going to grow.
    History has proven that every past crash was actually a buying opportunity — a rock-bottom bargain sale.
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    Re: #55
    When successful investors sell before a crash, it's also to build up cash reserves so they can buy more once prices drop…
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    AI is extremely useful to people who spend huge amounts of money in fields like defense and intelligence that don't get much public visibility, so
    while it might dip somewhat, I doubt it'll actually crash.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    Re: #68
    Lol, someone who's invested in AI stocks posting this while shaking in their boots
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    It's like a wave — a dip now and then is normal. And then it grows bigger again.
    Won't the AI boom end up like the dot-com bubble?
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #70
    Amazon crashed too, back then.
    Looking back on it now, it was nothing.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #63
    That's just a tiny handful of companies making money off it — even cutting-edge AI researchers are saying this is realistically how it'll play out.

    DeepSeek researcher pessimistic about AI's future: "It could take away jobs"
    November 10, 2025
    Chen Deli, a senior researcher at Chinese AI startup DeepSeek (WUZHEN AI), voiced a pessimistic outlook on AI's future impact on humanity at the World Internet Conference (WIC) held in Wuzhen, Zhejiang Province.
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:33
    Re: #77
    Everyone's competing to become one of that tiny handful of companies.
    That's not remotely inconsistent with a pessimistic future waiting for the world.
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    AI is going to keep growing continuously, so isn't it kind of unlikely there'll ever be a moment you could call its "peak"?
    114AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:35
    Re: #89
    That's true of basically anything, but it's a separate issue from a bubble bursting.
    Even if a boom fades or a bubble bursts and the industry (or related industries) declines or gets thrown into chaos, that doesn't mean every company or researcher disappears — so technological progress itself won't stop.
    93AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    What worries me more than a crash is hitting a ceiling, stagnating, bouncing slightly up and down, and then gradually declining for good.
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:32
    Re: #93
    Well, that particular pattern of decline hasn't really happened much throughout history, has it?
    101AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    Sure, a crash will come — but returns that outpace it will come too.
    If they didn't, capitalism itself would be over.
    104AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:32
    Re: #101
    In the end only a handful come out ahead, the rest are just exit liquidity lol
    110AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:34
    Re: #101
    Actually this whole thing is theater staged to end capitalism…

    The technocrats are gearing up for the Fourth Industrial Revolution, after all

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Universa Investments, led by Spitznagel, is known for a strategy called “tail-risk hedging.” It involves paying a small premium every month to keep buying out-of-the-money put options (the right to sell), taking a loss nearly every single time in normal periods, but recouping it all — many times over — when a crash hits; the thread itself summed this up as “losing money every month, but making a fortune when the crash comes.” The term “black swan” itself originally comes from Nassim Taleb, describing an “unforeseeable, drastic upheaval” — which is exactly why commenters pointed out that “if you don’t know the timing or the cause, isn’t that the definition of a black swan?”, since “predicting” a historic crash arguably contradicts the concept’s original meaning. Meanwhile, NISA (the tax-free investment program used by most Japanese retail investors) is built around spot/cash trading, so there’s little risk of a forced loss-cut even in a crash, whereas investors trading on margin face risks like margin calls. That distinction is what split the thread’s reactions into “NISA investors will be fine” versus “the margin traders are the ones in danger.”

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Once Again, the “Biggest Crash of a Lifetime” Will Come After the AI Boom Peaks — Says a Renowned “Black Swan” Investor.”

  • Sociologist Chizuko Ueno’s Take on Discrimination Sparks Debate — 5ch: ‘It’s a Distinction When I Say It, Discrimination When You Do’

    An interview article featuring sociologist Chizuko Ueno discussing lookism — being ranked by appearance — and ageism — being devalued because of old age — was picked up on 5ch’s News Express+ board. Her statement “There’s no need to just put up with discrimination” sparked debate over the wording itself, with posters saying the Japanese phrasing was ambiguous about whose “putting up with it” it referred to — the discriminator’s or the discriminated-against’s. Discussion also turned, as it often does in these threads, to the perennial question of where exactly the line between “discrimination” and “distinction” lies, without reaching any consensus.

    Since the 2000s, the term “ikizurasa” (the sense of difficulty in simply living, of not fitting into society) has taken root in Japanese society. Some of this difficulty comes from internal factors like personal traits or upbringing, while other forms come from external factors — discrimination rooted in how society views a person. In the latter case, people are ranked by appearance from a young age, and in old age they’re marked down for losing physical ability and independence — so this difficulty just keeps changing shape and lasts a lifetime.

    We put the question of the hardships caused by lookism (discrimination based on appearance) and ageism (discrimination based on age) — something many people experience — to sociologist Chizuko Ueno.

    “You’re so cute!” “You don’t look your age at all.”

    Source: hakuhodo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:21
    Well, looks like *you're* the one who has to put up with it, mkay?
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    I think lookism is discrimination, plain and simple.
    It should be banned outright, with real penalties for anyone caught doing it.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    How many women have been made miserable because of people like this?
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Re: #16
    Miserable how, exactly?
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    If I do it, it's a distinction.
    If someone else does it, it's discrimination.
    115AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #20
    Well put.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:31
    Preaching the joys of being single while secretly married herself — that's just messed up.
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:39
    Re: #22
    Do a little research before you talk.
    She only registered the marriage out of necessity, to care for her senile partner.
    If anything, it's a heartwarming story.
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #45
    So basically, someone who'll drop whatever they've been arguing for the second it's no longer convenient.
    170AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:19
    Re: #45
    That's even scarier, honestly.
    Sounds exactly like a "gold-digging second wife" (a stock trope for women who marry elderly men for their money).
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:39
    "Putting up with discrimination" is a weird phrase.
    "Putting up with BEING discriminated against" — okay, that I'd get.

    The way it's worded, it sounds more like you're holding back your own urge to discriminate.
    Japanese is hard, y'all.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:45
    Re: #53
    What "benefit" though?
    Ueno's richer than the guy she married.
    75AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:48
    Re: #68
    Then she could've just thrown money at the problem instead.
    Kind of funny that she ended up relying on the institution of marriage after all.
    124AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:02
    >"Lookism is the discriminatory mindset of men who believe they hold the right and power to judge women's looks, ranking women by appearance."

    Nope, wrong.
    This has nothing to do with men versus women.
    Saying something like this just makes YOU the bigot…
    177AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:21
    Re: #124
    Exactly.
    It's a double standard — Ueno thinks women SHOULD get to hold the right and power to judge men's looks.
    210AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:49
    Most of the people crying "discrimination!" are really just being treated differently for a reason.
    212AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:50
    Re: #210
    Still arguing "discrimination vs. distinction"? Talk about being laps behind the times, lol
    216AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:55
    Enjoy your fun, broke, single lives, everyone.
    Meanwhile I'll be married, living it up in my luxury high-rise condo, lol
    222AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:58
    Re: #216
    And on top of that, turns out she was married the whole time.
    Wonder how the women who missed their chance to marry,
    charmed by her sweet talk, must feel now.
    218AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:57
    A person who makes no one happy.
    A person who just stirs up conflict.
    223AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:59
    Re: #218
    Once you've successfully stirred up conflict and controversy,
    all you have to do is shout "I'm against it!" and you're set.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    “Lookism” and “ageism” are relatively new concepts that have taken root in Japanese since the 2000s, and this article stems from an interview with sociologist Chizuko Ueno conducted by a media outlet affiliated with Hakuhodo. Ueno is a professor emerita at the University of Tokyo and a leading figure in feminist studies, widely known for works such as Ohitorisama no Rougo (“The Old Age of Living Alone”), which explores how single elderly people live. The thread’s disagreement centered on two main points: first, the ambiguity of the phrase “There’s no need to just put up with discrimination” itself, and second, questions raised about whether Ueno’s personal life lines up with what she says. That second point, however, comes from anonymous forum posters and isn’t a publicly confirmed fact, so it’s worth taking with a grain of salt. Where exactly “discrimination” ends and “distinction” begins is a topic that’s genuinely hard to reach social consensus on, and this thread was no exception — it didn’t land on a clear conclusion either.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “There’s No Need to Just Put Up With Discrimination — How Sociologist Chizuko Ueno Embodies a Life of ‘Speaking Up’ Against Lookism and Ageism.”

  • Kaoru Mitoma Could Leave Brighton This January, British Media Reports — 5ch: ‘Still Worth ¥3.9 Billion Even Though He’s Basically Free Soon’

    Japan international midfielder Kaoru Mitoma (29), who plays for Brighton, could transfer away as early as January, British outlet “TeamTalk” reported on the 9th. A specialist site puts his market value at roughly ¥3.9 billion, a striking figure given his contract has less than a year left. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, posters debated possible destinations, salary estimates, and injury risk, before the discussion spiraled into comparisons of fame and earnings with Shohei Ohtani and Naoya Inoue. Opinions were sharply divided.

    Sports Nippon

    [September 10, 2026, 19:20]

    British outlet “TeamTalk” reported on the 9th that Kaoru Mitoma (29), the Japan national team midfielder currently at Brighton in England’s Premier League, could move clubs as early as January next year.

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:56
    His salary's probably ¥400 million, tops.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:04
    Re: #7
    More like half that.
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:57
    He's injury-prone and there's the Asian Cup this winter — can he really be sold then?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:59
    If a free transfer doesn't pan out, he'll probably just re-sign, no?
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:01
    He can barely stay on the pitch anymore.
    A player whose career got wrecked by injuries.
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:01
    Are Mitoma and Kubo fans only capable of fantasizing about transfers?
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:26
    Re: #11
    Guys who actually do transfer get it wrapped up fast, like Zion did.
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:02
    He's done enough in Europe already.
    Just come back to FC Tokyo.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:02
    29 years old
    Only six months left on his contract by winter
    Asian (counts against the non-EU quota outside the Premier League)
    Injury-prone
    Set to miss a month for the Asian Cup

    No club's paying €22 million for that.
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:03
    It's sad he couldn't get out right after Caicedo and Mac Allister did.
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:25
    Re: #15
    There was definitely a turning point back then.
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:07
    The gap with Ohtani and Inoue just keeps widening — in fame, income, and ability.
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:26
    Re: #21
    Ohtani, sure, but Inoue?????? Does lightweight boxing even carry any fame?
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:07
    Kind of sad that Trossard, the guy Mitoma pushed out, ended up at Arsenal.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:08
    No Japanese player has ever really stepped up in England yet — though Zion might be the one to do it.
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:08
    Transfer? Or just getting let go?
    He hasn't really put in a shift all year.
    It's not like this is some Olympic sport where you only have to perform once every four years.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:10
    He'll be 30 next year — just go join a Bundesliga or Ligue 1 club.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:11
    Here we go again, another 'ball-kicker gets cut loose' story (lol).
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:17
    Re: #1
    Impressive that he's still valued at ¥3.9 billion even with under a year left and set to be free next summer.
    Guess a proven Premier League track record really is on another level.
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:17
    There's no replacing Mitoma and Ito.
    Ito could probably keep coasting in low-intensity Belgium all the way to the World Cup in four years.
    Mitoma's turned into a specialist-type player now — it's a question of whether he chases a step up in league level, prepares for the World Cup, or just chases the money.
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:20
    Why did he even extend his contract with Brighton!?

    His play is bold and flashy, but his personality's way too cautious — going off to university and all that…
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:29
    Re: #46
    Even in the UK, Naoya Inoue's more famous than Mitoma lol.
    Plus his sponsorships are global deals — Mitoma doesn't have any global ones.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:31
    Re: #50
    Inoue's famous in the UK? Where'd you even get that?
    Lightweight boxing isn't even popular in the West.
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:33
    Re: #56
    And your source for Mitoma being popular in the UK is…?
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:36
    Re: #59
    Mitoma's good at soccer.
    60AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:33
    The huge reason Inoue can earn well in the lightweight divisions is that he's Japanese.
    That's what pushes his brand value up even further.
    In the US, even a Mexican-American lightweight can earn decently, but nowhere near as much —
    maybe about 1/10 of that.
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:34
    Re: #60
    Even at 1/10, that's still more than Mitoma makes lol.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:38
    Aston Villa should just buy him.
    Zion and Mitoma could make a real attack together.
    83AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:50
    Re: #69
    You clearly don't watch Villa's games.
    They've already got a good young player on the left.
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:39
    Pretty cheap next to Kaishu Sano reportedly turning down a ¥6.5 billion move.
    75AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:41
    Re: #72
    'Turned down'? That's just a bogus rumor article.
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:42
    Re: #72
    It's more like buying a luxury watch that might already be broken.
    87AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:55
    Re: #83
    Aston Villa

    Zero goals this season

    Maybe score a goal first.
    90AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:57
    Re: #87
    At this rate it'll turn into 'Mitoma, just get on the pitch' lol.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The ¥3.9 billion market-value figure is an estimate calculated by a transfer-tracking website, and it’s a different thing from an actual transfer fee or agreed price. This report itself is also only at the stage of a single British outlet describing a “possibility” — it isn’t information indicating that negotiations between clubs have actually taken shape. Where opinions split on the thread was over how much stock to put in this kind of transfer report. Skepticism was common, citing how recently he re-signed his contract, how the January window sees far less player movement than summer and is harder to complete deals in, and the fact that he’s expected to be away for the Asian Cup come January. On the other hand, some read the fact that his valuation remains high even with under a year left on his contract as confirmation of his proven Premier League track record. Note: unverified comments about his personal life have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Brighton’s Mitoma Could Transfer This January, British Media Reports — Specialist Site Puts Market Value at About ¥3.9 Billion“.

  • Matsuya Onoe Becomes the New Kosuke Kindaichi — 5ch Reacts: ‘Go Rewatch the Ishizaka Version 1000 Times’

    A Japan premiere was held on September 10 for the new film adaptation of Seishi Yokomizo’s masterpiece ‘The Village of Eight Gravestones’ (in theaters September 18), where it was reported that Matsuya Onoe, who plays detective Kosuke Kindaichi, said, “I made a point of not watching how past acclaimed actors portrayed Kindaichi.” Kindaichi has previously been played by a string of veteran actors including Chiezo Kataoka, Kiyoshi Atsumi, Koji Ishizaka, and Ikko Furuya, and on 5ch this remark sparked a wide range of comments, from comparisons with past Kindaichis to unease over the story being set in the present-day Reiwa era — a setting not found in the original novel.

    9/10 (Thu) 20:26

    A Japan premiere was held on September 10 — just eight days before its September 18 release — for the new film adaptation of ‘The Village of Eight Gravestones,’ based on the bestselling novel of the same name by Seishi Yokomizo, a titan of Japanese mystery fiction. In attendance were Matsuya Onoe, Tomoya Oku, Mayu Hotta, Riko Nagase, and director Takashi Shimizu.

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    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Re: #1
    Isn't the guy on the right the Nippon-Ham Fighters manager?
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Thinking about it, isn't Kindaichi a role pretty much anyone could play?
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:54
    Re: #4
    You've gotta really commit to the 'Shimattaa!' ('Oh no!') moments.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Remakes like this are never any good — they should've just stuck to a period piece.
    67AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:26
    Re: #7
    The original Kindaichi was Chiezo Kataoka — and the remake versions with Koji Ishizaka and Ikko Furuya were great too.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    The Kindaichi that Yokomizo himself reportedly thought was closest to his image was the Kiyoshi Atsumi version.
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:21
    Kiyoshi Atsumi barely did anything with the role lol
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:28
    Re: #14
    Oh really? lol
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Watched the trailer — Takito would've fit the Kindaichi image better.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    He's playing a detective in another drama, so maybe they wanted to avoid overlap — but honestly I kind of wish they'd cast Takito as Kindaichi this time instead.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    When are they finally going to make it an adventure story centered on Tatsuya and Satoko? Kindaichi's really just a side character in 'The Village of Eight Gravestones.'
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Re: #17
    The NHK version satisfied me on that front. Don't think they can top it.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Maybe it's the hairstyle, but he looks like Oniyasha from 'The Kindaichi Case Files' (an unrelated manga/anime about Kindaichi's grandson).
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Make him the short, unimpressive-looking Kindaichi like in the original novel.
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Re: #1
    >Matsuya Onoe

    Not a fan of this guy (just my personal take)
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Takito as Yamazaki looks promising though.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    If they made it an adventure story, they'd have to properly depict the caves, and that costs money.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #22
    Japan doesn't really have any huge caves anyway.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Wasn't there a Kindaichi without the dandruff? Tora-san, maybe?
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    Personally, my image of Kindaichi is Ikko Furuya.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    As a kid I lived for a while in my father's hometown, Yatsuka Village in Maniwa District, Okayama Prefecture. So 'The Village of Eight Gravestones' has a bit of special meaning to me.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Lol, what a shallow thing to say. Go rewatch the Ishizaka version a thousand times.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Honestly his face looks more like Sukekiyo (a famously bizarre-looking character from the story).
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:49
    Re: #31
    That'd actually be a perfect fit lol
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    "Made a point of not watching them" — that's basically an actor admitting he's never bothered to watch the acknowledged classics, the masterpieces. Is there a painter out there who's never seen a Van Gogh or a Picasso?
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:31
    Setting it in the Reiwa era is a joke, right?
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:33
    Re: #34
    I think that's better than clumsily setting it in the Showa era.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    Re: #37
    Going by the original novel, Tatsuya is 27. If the story is set in 2026 and his age carries over to the new film, that means Yozo's 32-person massacre would have happened around the year 2000. Even for a remote mountain village, that's just not believable.
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:52
    Re: #37
    It's probably just a budget thing. Changing the era obviously creates contradictions — at that point, just make it an original story instead.
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:36
    Honestly, as a mystery, 'Gokumon Island' is a cut above the rest — the other stories aren't quite on that level.
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:39
    He shouldn't fall into the trap Yuji Oda did, basically ripping off Poirot — but he should study the other great actors before putting his own spin on it.
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #46
    Mansai Nomura's Japanese take on 'The Murder of Roger Ackroyd' was surprisingly good, honestly.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:44
    I've been binge-reading Seishi Yokomizo for the past few months, but since Kindaichi = Furuya is so ingrained in my head, I can't help picturing him no matter what.
    86AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:56
    Re: #77
    I guess everyone's image depends on what generation they were born into. These days you can watch the old stuff online, but back then, unless there was a rerun, only people who caught it live even knew it existed. For what it's worth, I watched the Furuya version live too, so that's my image of him (also, the immediate postwar Showa scenery in the novel didn't feel like a set back then — it was still basically the real thing).

    Background and Points of Debate on This Topic

    ‘The Village of Eight Gravestones’ is one of Seishi Yokomizo’s signature works, and the role of detective Kosuke Kindaichi has been passed down through a succession of celebrated actors over the decades — Chiezo Kataoka (1951), Kiyoshi Atsumi (1977 TV drama), Ken Hagiwara in the theatrical film released the same year as Atsumi’s version, the later Koji Ishizaka version (1977, directed by Kon Ichikawa), and Ikko Furuya, who played the role for years in the TV series. This time Matsuya Onoe takes on the role in a new interpretation set in the present-day Reiwa era, and the thread saw wide-ranging discussion — from whether it was appropriate for him to say he “made a point of not watching” earlier portrayals, to whether he looks the part, to nostalgic attachment to the Ishizaka and Furuya generations. There were also pointed observations about the setting itself: some noted that combining the original novel’s age for Tatsuya (27) with a Reiwa-era setting would place Yozo’s 32-person massacre around the year 2000 — meaning the debate wasn’t just about personal taste but extended to questions of internal consistency. Note that comments mocking the actor’s physical appearance or body type have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread ‘A New Kosuke Kindaichi Is Born! Matsuya Onoe on ‘The Village of Eight Gravestones’: “I Made a Point of Not Watching How Past Acclaimed Actors Portrayed Kindaichi”‘.

  • Takamatsu Sauna That Allowed Tattoos Reverses Ban After Just 1.5 Months — Manager: “Even Organized Crime Members Filed False Applications”

    A men-only sauna in Takamatsu that once lifted its ban on tattoos went back to banning them again after just a month and a half, following a string of incidents: smoking in the non-smoking outdoor relaxation area, damaged equipment, intimidating behavior, and even false applications from organized crime members. The story sparked plenty of discussion. In the thread, some worried about regular customers being driven away and shared similar stories from other bathhouses, while others criticized the manager for being naive about what would happen — opinions were split.

    ⟨Sauna Trouble⟩ “Tattoos OK → Banned Again in Just 1.5 Months” — What Happened? Takamatsu Men’s-Only Sauna Manager Speaks Out: “Some Organized Crime Members Even Came With False Applications”

    Published Thu, Sep 10, 18:33

    Shueisha Online

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    Organized crime members should just go build their own sauna for organized crime members.
    73AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:39
    Re: #6 There's probably basically already a sauna for them
    Apparently there are a lot of clothing stores catering to them too
    MB said that's one thing he could never say even if it killed him (MB is a Japanese fashion commentator known for reviewing "yakuza-style" fashion)
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:12
    Maybe they should've just made it a time-limited thing, like "tattoos OK the last 2 hours before closing"… or something?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    Anyone could've told you doing this would drive away the regular customers
    201AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:06
    Re: #9
    Back when pools everywhere were banning tattoos, Summerland was the last holdout that refused to ban them
    Apparently it ended up turning into a tattoo showcase
    Regular customers fled, so they scrambled to ban it too
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    You really can judge a book by its cover
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:27
    Re: #22
    Guys who look like small-time thugs really are small-time thugs underneath too
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    >"We saw some customers smoking in the non-smoking outdoor relaxation area, damaging facilities, and acting intimidating. There were also cases of organized crime members submitting false applications to get in."
    He said that since it's normally hard for organized crime members to get into bathhouses like this, "maybe they were just happy the ban got lifted."

    Lol, picturing the yakuza guys all excited about it
    145AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:17
    Re: #24
    I mean, if they couldn't act intimidating, what would even be the point of living for them
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:31
    >The facility apparently also makes some uniquely humorous merchandise of its own.

    >"We made a T-shirt that says 'No Tattoos Allowed.' We're hoping people with tattoos who can't get into our facility will wear it."

    That's so unhinged, I lost it
    211AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:17
    Re: #61
    That's insane lol
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:42
    Can someone explain this in Gundam terms?
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:46
    Re: #79
    The Argama docks at a colony for repairs
    Kamille heads to the sauna during his free time and finds Captain Quattro already there ahead of him, locker key strapped around his ankle
    102AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:55
    So they went and proved it themselves all over again, huh
    115AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:00
    Re: #102
    Getting banned again after just 1.5 months is proof enough lol
    132AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:10
    This is exactly why you need to properly study the Drifters' sauna skit (The Drifters — a classic Japanese comedy group)
    142AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:15
    Re: #132
    Takagi Boo's full-body tattoo lol (Takagi Boo — member of the Drifters)
    162AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:28
    Wait, are there really that many tattooed guys out there that they'd come flooding in like this lol
    165AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:30
    Re: #162
    They're banned almost everywhere else, so they probably all pile into the few places that do let them in, no?
    I was floored once by how many tattooed guys were at a place called Hyotan Onsen in Beppu
    180AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:48
    This didn't happen in 2026
    (The ban was lifted in June 2023, and reinstated about 1.5 months later)

    – Smoked in the non-smoking outdoor area
    – Damaged equipment
    – Acted intimidating
    – Organized crime members filed false applications

    Only 4 incidents total?
    That's a pretty biased way to put it
    185AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:51
    Re: #180
    Don't know the headcount, but racking up that many incidents in 1.5 months is insane
    198AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:00
    In the bathhouses of the Osaka-Kobe area, tattooed guys ("monmon") are just the default.
    204AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:09
    Re: #198
    Under the Public Bathhouse Act, regular sento probably can't legally refuse them anyway
    203AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:07
    Tattoos are just plain unsightly
    Once you get old the design starts falling apart, apparently
    An old ex-yakuza guy told me that once in a sento sauna
    Though he said "ex-yakuza," he was actually a construction worker, so who really knows
    210AnonymousSep 10, 2026 23:16
    Re: #203
    With weight gain and sagging skin,
    the design falls apart too

    The guys getting inked now will probably look like a mess in 20 years

    Background and Discussion Points

    Accepting tattooed customers at tourist facilities and bathhouses saw a brief wave of spread around the time of the Tokyo Olympics, and the Takamatsu sauna’s move appears to be part of that same trend. On the other hand, under the Public Bathhouse Act, regular sento reportedly have a hard time legally refusing entry, and commenters in the thread noted that bathhouses in the Osaka-Kobe area have settled into routinely accepting tattooed customers. What drew attention to this particular case was that in just a month and a half after lifting the ban, concrete problems piled up one after another — smoking, damaged facilities, intimidating behavior, and false applications from organized crime members. In the thread, concerns about driving away regular customers mixed with criticism of the manager’s naive judgment. Note that the events described in the original article actually took place in June 2023, not 2026, so there’s a gap between the publication date and when things actually happened that’s easy to misread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Sauna Trouble] “Tattoos OK → Banned Again in Just 1.5 Months”… Takamatsu Men’s Sauna Manager: “Some Organized Crime Members Filed False Applications…”.”