Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • STARTO Corp Complains to Ministry Panel — Chair Turns Out to Have Backed the Other Side in Its Resale Lawsuit

    STARTO ENTERTAINMENT, the talent agency formerly known as Johnny’s Office, has made an unusual complaint to an expert panel convened by Japan’s Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications. The panel is discussing a “sender information disclosure system” meant to identify the real identities of ticket scalpers — but it turns out the panel’s chair had previously written a legal opinion favoring the opposing side in a lawsuit STARTO itself filed against a ticket resale site. The agency, which has long been at odds with scalpers, has now turned its criticism toward the very government body meant to craft anti-scalping policy. On 5ch, alongside surprise at this twist, many users asked a more basic question: why is resale even treated as such a problem, and why does it run rampant when reselling above face value is already supposed to be illegal?

    STARTO ENTERTAINMENT Co., Ltd. (STARTO), the talent agency representing performers formerly with Johnny’s Office, has lodged an unusual “complaint” with the government. The setting: an expert panel at the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications discussing a “sender information disclosure system” designed to unmask the identities of ticket scalpers.

    It turns out that the chair running that panel had previously written a legal opinion siding with the resale site that STARTO is currently suing in court. “Doesn’t this make it hard to call this fair?” The agency, which has fought scalpers for years, has finally turned its sights on the very body crafting the policy.

    The agency that’s been fighting scalpers has now taken a bite out of a government panel

    Source: coki.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:56
    Why is Johnny's so hated by the public anyway?
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:56
    I don't like scalpers, and I don't like Johnny's either.
    Just take each other down already.
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:57
    These government expert panels are a total black box.
    Things always get decided conveniently for someone, so I don't trust them one bit.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:57
    I don't like Johnny's, but if they're actually putting real rules in place for ticket sales, then they're the ones in the right here.
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:58
    I don't get why resale is treated as such a problem.
    If tickets were fan-club exclusive only, it'd cost more and scalpers couldn't profit off it, right?
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:00
    Re: #9
    Something about exclusive sales running afoul of antitrust law, apparently…
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    Re: #9
    Because most scalpers aren't paying proper taxes on their profits.
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:25
    Re: #9
    Why can't fans who should rightfully get tickets actually get them at face value in the first place?
    It's because of scalpers, obviously.
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:00
    Shigeoka's tickets sell below face value anyway (Shigeoka Daiki, a STARTO idol — not every act gets scalped).
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:02
    Isn't resale hard to crack down on because of freedom of trade?
    If sellers want to refuse it, they have to build their own system to do so.
    Demanding the poster's identity be disclosed seems like overkill.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:04
    I don't really get it, but does this mean the conclusion is likely to end up bad for Johnny's?
    Everyone wants to curb scalpers just the same, so why would that go badly for Johnny's?
    Someone smart, explain it to me.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:41
    Re: #14
    There are people making money off resale itself.
    And there are people making money off the fees tied to it too.
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:05
    So this "expert panel" is rotten enough to make Johnny's look like the reasonable one here?
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:07
    I'm firmly on STARTO's side on this one.
    This is way too suspicious — it's obvious they're in bed with the resale side. Having that person as chair is an absolute farce.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    Ticket resale sites have a weird setup too.
    Maybe they were built to promote resale from the very start.
    Lately tickets range from ones scalpers swarm for huge markups to ones that don't sell at all — it's gotten bizarre.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    It's just market forces at work.
    What's really needed is effort to keep tickets from being resold in the first place.
    Letting people buy multiple fan-club memberships is the actual abnormal part.
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:35
    Re: #20
    But they want all those membership fees too, don't they?
    Johnny's isn't exactly one to talk there.
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:21
    Just ban resale above face value or the listed price.
    That alone would solve it — why isn't this being done?
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:32
    Re: #37
    There's already a Ticket Resale Prohibition Act banning sales above face value, yet it's openly sold out in plain sight — that's the real mystery.
    Guess they really are in cahoots with the government.
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:30
    Just print the buyer's name on the ticket at time of sale.
    Then refuse entry to anyone without ID matching that exact name.
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:52
    Re: #45
    There's a thing called "name lending" (borrowing someone else's name/ID), you know…
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:46
    Wasn't reselling resale-banned tickets outside official channels already made a criminal offense in the first place?
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:53
    Re: #65
    Didn't know it had gotten to criminal-offense level. But given that, I seriously doubt the flea-market apps commonly used for resale are actually taking the appropriate action.
    68AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:50
    Don't concert tickets go through lottery sales?
    Or is it first-come-first-served?
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:53
    Re: #68
    It's lottery everywhere,
    but popular tickets get so many lottery losers that scalpers resell them for like 10 times the price.
    74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:54
    Guess the pro-legalize-resale camp must have some real pull, huh.
    83AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:56
    Re: #74
    That side probably throws around more money in donations and the like.
    Unless it blows up into a scandal big enough for the public to riot over, they'll side with wherever the money's flowing.
    76AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:54
    So basically, the takeaway here is just that Johnny's sucks?
    79AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:55
    Re: #76
    Can't you even be bothered to read post #1?
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:54
    Facial recognition would weed out fraudulent tickets.
    Makes you wonder if they actually want to crack down on this at all.
    82AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:56
    Re: #78
    That gets done sometimes too,
    but there are idiots who cheat it with screenshots.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:55
    It's an expert panel, so of course someone from the resale side is on it.
    If you only ever hear one side's opinion, it's not a legitimate panel at all.
    88AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:59
    Re: #81
    That person is the chair, though.
    Fair, is it?
    90AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:02
    This article writes it up like STARTO is the villain here
    — just trying to bait idiots into biting.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Japan’s law banning unauthorized ticket resale took effect in 2019, making resale above face value illegal. In practice, though, high-priced resale on flea-market apps and similar platforms has never stopped, and there have long been doubts about how effectively the law is actually enforced. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications panel in question was convened to examine how to operate the “sender information disclosure system” for identifying scalpers’ identities — in principle, a framework meant to advance anti-scalping measures. What split opinion on the thread was how to judge the appointment of the panel’s chair. One camp held that “if someone close to the opposing party in the lawsuit is chairing the panel, it lacks fairness,” while another countered that “expert panels are meant to bring together people with opposing views in the first place, so including someone from one side is only natural.” On the more fundamental question of why resale is even a problem, many pointed to the fact that proper tax revenue never reaches the original sellers, and to the basic structure of scalpers targeting lottery losers to resell at inflated prices. At the same time, some comments turned the criticism back on the agencies themselves, arguing that allowing multiple fan-club entries per person and poorly designed lottery systems are what create the ticket shortages in the first place.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “STARTO Raises a Flag Against the Ministry — The Bizarre Situation of the Opposing Party in a Ticket Resale Lawsuit Running the Expert Panel [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • New Xbox Title ‘Gears E-Day’ Sells 230K Copies — 5ch: ‘With Game Pass, It’s Really 950K’

    Overseas analytics firm Alinea Analytics estimated that the Xbox-exclusive title ‘Gears E-Day’ sold around 230,000 copies in its first week, sparking discussion on 5ch’s hardware/industry board (Geha). Thread participants pointed out that this figure doesn’t include the 722,000 Game Pass upgrades, suggesting the real number of paying users could be around 950,000. At the same time, many voiced doubts about the reliability of Alinea Analytics’ estimates themselves, and the debate spread to how the numbers should even be interpreted.

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Despite far fewer sales on Steam, Xbox accounts for nearly three-quarters of revenue (about $26 million of $37 million, versus roughly $11 million on Steam). In other words, the "230,000 units" figure understates the number of paying users. Including the 722,000 upgrades, roughly 950,000 people actually paid for E-Day. E-Day is a great game (it's in my top 10), but at a time when Xbox desperately needs a revenue win, these numbers fall short for a flagship title. E-Day sold 62,000 copies on Xbox, with 722,000 premium upgrades — meaning for every one copy sold on Xbox, about 12 Game Pass upgrades were sold.
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:19
    Re: #3
    Re: #71
    Can't even read, huh, you creep (5ch slang insult).
    88AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:30
    Re: #3
    So overall it's still short of a million…
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    (@alineaanalytics estimate)

    Enough with this garbage source already.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    Estimate

    [Sad news for Nintendo fanboys] "Marvel's Wolverine" apparently sold 6.16 million copies lol
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1791588169/

    They're really cranking out the fabricated puppet show this morning, huh.
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    These days the Warhammer 40K Space Marine series is getting praised for a similar style to Gears, and conversely, people are getting tired of the Naughty Dog style itself, so third-person shooters in general feel kind of stale.
    It's getting harder for campaign-focused TPS games to stand out from the rest.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    This.
    This studio's getting shut down 100%.
    Courtesy of Asha, the god of destruction (5ch nickname for a Microsoft/Xbox exec blamed for studio closures).
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    This is probably gonna rack up like 30 billion yen in losses, isn't it?
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Xbox users keep going on and on about Game Pass, so numbers like this are inevitable.
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    Criminal mindset: "Say a lie 100 times and it becomes true."
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:59
    This is the hot topic everywhere overseas,
    yet here's Mr. Creep running from reality.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:02
    Re: #37
    The claim that it's "the hot topic" is already a lie.
    Typical lying "Kizu-Ryutsu Namapo-kun" (5ch nickname for a poster known for spreading fake sales/distribution claims).
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:02
    Sold better than I expected, gotta hand it to Xbox.
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:02
    Re: #41
    That's worldwide numbers, lol.
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:04
    This series is basically on its last legs,
    so they should've released it on PS too, just to grow the player base even a little.
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:04
    Re: #46
    Deep down you're just begging "gimme gimme."
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:05
    But this ignores Game Pass revenue, doesn't it.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:05
    Re: #49
    That kind of thing doesn't mean anything —
    Asha herself said their profit is only a tenth of other companies',
    remember?
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:07
    Re: #50
    The gaming division is already back on a growth track.
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:07
    Re: #50
    If it didn't matter, they wouldn't bother releasing a Game Pass upgrade path.
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    Alinea Analytics: "Wolverine tops 1.9 million"
    https://alineaanalytics.substack.com/p/wolverine-sells-19m-despite-the-online

    Alinea Analytics: "Gears sells 230K, even Game Pass Day 1 might be over"
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUM0H-pXwAAn2ye.jpg


    It's painfully obvious which company's paying for these headlines, lol.
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:11
    Re: #56
    Anyone who buys a game that's already on Game Pass is kind of a fool, so this is about right.
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:19
    Re: #56
    Though that's the same outlet that said Saros only sold 300,000.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    It's a platform with a culture of "lol anyone who pays full price when you can play it free on Game Pass is an idiot," so honestly didn't it sell better than expected?
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:12
    Re: #57
    You keep dragging that point out, but you're the only one who's actually stung by it.
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:14
    Re: #1
    Asking this neutrally, but I see this site cited a lot on Geha — is it actually reliable?
    This just seems way too low for sales.
    Steam concurrent players were at 30K, so maybe that tracks?
    Or is everyone else playing it on Game Pass and just not getting counted?
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:18
    Re: #65
    It's the only outlet in the world claiming Wolverine "sold a whopping 1.9 million copies" when everyone else is reporting it bombed hard — so yeah, totally reliable!
    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHOH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdf420d7-a539-4d25-ba23-5d6951d4ed78_1705x959.png
    71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:18
    Re: #65
    It's just Steam-only stats, and Game Pass users' revenue isn't counted at all.
    And calling it an "estimate" is already a stretch — it's basically fantasy.
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:22
    At least this made more profit than Sony's own first-party titles (the post uses a derogatory 5ch nickname for Sony).
    82AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:24
    Re: #78
    They're over there building Skytowers just to tear them down, so there's no way they're turning a profit.
    89AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:31
    Even as a PC user, I think Xbox is in a rough spot.
    I expect it to stay dead last from here on out.
    92AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:32
    Re: #89
    Last Black Friday, this trash can (Xbox) lost to the Nex Playground and came in 4th place.
    99AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:40
    That's the same outlet that said 1.9 million — grew a lot, huh. The Gears 230K figure is also from them.
    The guy doing the tallying keeps saying "Saros being exclusive boosts the platform's appeal, sales numbers don't matter," while in the same breath chanting "put Gears on PS5" over and over.
    102AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:42
    Re: #99
    The problem is it doesn't include Game Pass users' revenue, so it's just not credible.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The figure at the center of this discussion is an estimate that overseas analytics firm Alinea Analytics worked backward from earnings data and the like — it is not an official statistic released by the platform itself. Because Xbox’s business model leans more on monthly Game Pass subscriptions than on traditional retail sales, a simple “units sold” figure can’t capture the real number of users, and that became the thread’s central point of contention. Indeed, comment 3 showed that, separate from retail sales, there were more than 722,000 Game Pass upgrades, highlighting just how hard a simple comparison is. Notably, the same Alinea Analytics had, just days earlier, estimated sales of the PS5-exclusive title ‘Marvel’s Wolverine’ at 1.9 million copies, and several posts in the thread questioned the consistency and reliability of these estimates.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Gears E-DAY sells 230K units — a huge bang of a flop wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Murakami Haruki Calls SNS a “Dumping Ground for Bad Writing” — 5ch Claps Back: “Worse Than Bathroom Graffiti”

    A topic surfaced on 5ch after novelist Haruki Murakami was reported to have said, “I don’t do SNS because it’s a dumping ground for crappy writing.” In the thread, many voices agreed, saying things like “He’s dead right — it’s just people who can’t even fill a sheet of manuscript paper getting mad.” At the same time, others pointed out that the style of his landmark novel Hear the Wind Sing is itself built on short, colloquial sentences — practically “SNS-like” — and that it’s contradictory to call 5ch itself “bathroom graffiti” while only criticizing the writing on X (Twitter). Some even mocked a reply written with sloppy punctuation as “proof that the writing really is bad.”

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:29
    Can't be helped, I guess
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:29
    Forgot to attach the images
    https://imgur.com/0gYGK7b.jpg
    https://imgur.com/v2cTGRy.jpg
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:31
    Murakami Haruki: "I don't do SNS. It's a dumping ground for crappy writing" → Twitter users have a total meltdown
    http://bbs.eddibb.cc/test/read.cgi/liveedge/1791567811/
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:44
    I don't do SNS. Because it's a dumping ground for crappy writing

    — which is itself a crappy sentence
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:45
    I totally get that reading good writing and listening to good music matters in life
    but then why are you cheering for Yakult, who play such crappy baseball? (Murakami's a well-known Yakult Swallows fan)
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:45
    I bet even most SNS users would agree with that opinion
    what's with the "hating it without even trying" act, gross
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:48
    This one's spot on
    only people with too much time and a strong need for validation should be doing this
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    His novel protagonists seem exactly like the type of guy who'd be posting whiny nonsense on Twitter all day though
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:58
    Ironically, this thread is proving Haruki right
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:58
    If Murakami Haruki seriously trolled me, I think I'd cry
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:59
    The reply section is just drowning in crappy writing
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    There's a debate to be had over what counts as "crappy writing," but people want to read it, so who cares
    it's no different from us not wanting to read Murakami's novels
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:03
    Impressive how someone can claim not to care that their SNS writing gets called crap, yet clearly it stings
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:05
    X, which ranks below the bathroom-graffiti site that is 5channel, doesn't even qualify as "writing" in the first place
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:06
    That old gray-haired guy's front-facing selfie captioned "I see." is the best
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:08
    They're proving the point themselves by replying with terrible writing
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:15
    This guy loses it every year around Nobel Prize season, doesn't he
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:39
    Re: #26
    Did something happen this year?
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:19
    It's completely correct
    it's just people who can't even fill five sheets of manuscript paper getting mad
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:34
    It's not that the writing itself is crap — it's that people whose intelligence only lets them write like that are also on SNS
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:38
    "Refined" and "skilled" aren't the same thing
    there's a crowd out there that can't even read a short sentence like this one accurately and just lashes out with knee-jerk reactions, so it's hardly strange that some people want to keep their distance from that
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:40
    5ch users themselves call this place bathroom graffiti
    so why won't X admit it's a dumping ground for crappy writing too
    does everyone there think they're writing high-minded prose?
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:40
    Once smartphones and SNS took off around 2010
    the civility and quality of internet users dropped off a cliff
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:50
    Frozen fried rice LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:51
    The opening lines of his debut novel Hear the Wind Sing
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:52
    It's not something people trying to do anything refined would bother looking at anyway
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:53
    Sure, it's unedited, sloppy short-form writing full of typos and grammar mistakes
    but the esteemed author whose own prose gets used as long-form reading comprehension material is absolutely right
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:56
    These days plenty of posts are just AI bots anyway
    so taking any of it seriously is a waste of time
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:56
    Losing it without even using punctuation properly, lol
    aren't you embarrassed, lol
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:57
    Don't say that, just go listen to a Tsunku song instead

    it'll blow you away! ("Tsunku" produced many Hello! Project idol groups; this thread is on 5ch's Hello! Project board)
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:17
    It's only two or three lines on SNS, lol
    why not try writing a rebuttal spanning hundreds of pages in refined prose like the great sensei, lol
    if you actually pulled that off, you might even earn some respect, lol
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:19
    Re: #51
    these days they'd probably just churn that out endlessly with AI
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:20
    Re: #51
    feels like they'd come back after agonizing over every word, lol
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33


    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Novelists aside, manga artists seem to have a higher rate of clumsy, amateurish posts
    guess that makes sense — they're people whose expression only really comes together when paired with artwork
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
    Re: #69
    also, about half of manga artists are basically puppets of their editors anyway
    some of them are just the ones doing the drawing

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Murakami Haruki has long made clear his stance of keeping distance from SNS and contemporary, real-time information consumption, and this remark appears to be an extension of that stance. What split opinion in the thread was less the content of the remark itself than the question of “who has the standing to say it.” While there was considerable agreement with the view that SNS writing is of low quality, just as many replies questioned the credibility of criticizing others’ writing from that position — pointing out that his early landmark novel Hear the Wind Sing is itself written in a style built from short, colloquial sentences, and that 5ch itself openly calls itself an anonymous graffiti board. Note that the thread does not specify when or in which outlet this remark was made, and the original source cannot be confirmed from the material behind this article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Murakami Haruki: “I don’t do SNS. It’s a dumping ground for crappy writing” → Twitter users have a total meltdown.”

  • Momoiro Clover Z’s ‘Peach God Festival’: Host Village Chōsei Footing Over ¥100 Million — 5ch Says ‘Buy a Ticket, for the Village’s Sake’

    Momoiro Clover Z’s “Autumn Peach God Festival 2026,” set to take place next week in Chōsei Village, Chiba Prefecture, has become a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Tickets are currently on general sale via Eplus, but Chōsei Village, which is hosting the event, is reportedly footing over ¥100 million in costs — covering free use of the land, security, and infrastructure work. In the thread, opinions clashed between those arguing “it’s fine because of the economic benefits” and critics saying “they’re making the local government spend more money than any Hello! Project group.” Posters were also split on whether tickets were actually selling well.

    You can still buy tickets through Eplus

    Buy one, for Chōsei Village’s sake

    <General ticket sales start 8/18 (Tue) at 18:00!> “MomoClo Autumn Peach God Festival 2026”

    Source: eplus.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:09
    [Sad News] Turns Out Chōsei Village Is Footing Over ¥100 Million for MomoClo's Autumn Peach God Festival lmaooo
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790435962/
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:10
    Everything except that Saturday women's standing-area ticket is still sitting there, plenty available.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:13
    People are still out there running anti-MomoClo hate campaigns? lol
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:15
    Re: #14
    Those guys stopped existing ages ago…
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:14
    <Things MomoClo's management will handle>
    ・Momoiro Clover Z won't take a performance fee. But they'll keep 100% of the ticket revenue.
    ・Producing and running the live show (and the surrounding park area)


    <Things Chōsei Village will handle>
    Providing the venue (Amagadai General Park, etc.) free of charge.
    Covering site grading/temporary infrastructure (electricity, water, toilets, steel road plates), a cooperative setup with police and fire departments, and the cost of perimeter security and upkeep.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:15
    They should just take a hiatus like Perfume did.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:15
    Meanwhile, when it comes to Tokisen (Tokimeki Sendenbu)…

    ┐(´д`)┌ (sigh… what can you do)
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:16
    They've got two married members already, so they don't need to push themselves this hard, right?
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:17
    Hello! Project's had Gomaki (Goto Maki) and Sayashi (Sayashi Riho) milked plenty by avex too,

    but at least they don't perform at a-nation (= they don't become a cash cow there).

    That's actually the smart move.

    ( ´ー`)y-~~ (smug smoke-puffing face)
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:19
    Stardust's loyal-dog uncle showed up in this thread too, huh.
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:19
    The armchair geezers who crawl out of the woodwork every time a Stardust thread pops up should get out to an actual event once in a while.
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:20
    My pet Pā-ko-chan

    is throwing a fit, throwing a fit lol

    (∪^ω^)\(^-^ )ポンポン (pat pat)
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:23
    That genre just isn't popular, that's exactly why tickets are still sitting unsold.
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:24
    Sasaki Ayaka

    was raised by Mayumi-san

    (´∀`*)ウフフ (heh heh)
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Today's Kadan Fes is the preliminary skirmish.

    (´∀`*)ウフフ (heh heh)
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    I'd hate it if it came to my neighborhood, but it's none of my business, so go ahead and knock yourselves out.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Is there anyone here besides my pet Pā-ko-chan?

    (^q^)ポケー (blank stare)
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:35
    I have zero idea what kind of activities they even do.
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:41
    Sato-Teru

    was raised by Reni-chan

    (´∀`*)ウフフ (heh heh)

    "Sato Teruaki will probably go to the majors next year or the year after, so maybe we'll win once that happens?"… Tokumitsu Kazuo reveals how he really feels as a Giants fan [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1791586209/
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:42
    If I had a friend who invited me to something like this, I'd cut them off.
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:44
    Since it's just Pā-ko-chan here,

    there's zero response, man

    (´ー`)ノ ⌒ ゚ ポーイ(^q^) (tossing it away)
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:49
    So the venue's in Chōsei Village, but you access it via Mobara Station, meaning hardly anyone actually stops by shops in Chōsei Village itself?
    Then again, Chōsei Village barely has any shops to begin with.
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:52
    Access
    For those coming by car
    Please see the map information (opens in a new window)

    For those coming by bus
    From "JR Sotobo Line Mobara Station," take the Kominato Bus and get off at "Amagadai General Park Entrance"
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:59
    Even so, they're still pulling in more people than any Hello! Project group.
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:03
    Re: #49
    Juice=Juice sells better.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:01
    They're making a local government spend more money than any Hello! Project group does.
    There needs to be some restraint.
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:07
    Re: #50
    Apparently it's justified because of the economic impact.
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:19
    Re: #53
    This is literally the thread where that "it's not selling" claim is being disputed.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:22
    Fixating on some empty lot out in the boonies again, huh.
    Why not just go for it, fearlessly?
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:23
    Isn't that the only place in Chiba Prefecture still called a "village"?
    Why hold it somewhere like that?
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:31


    62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Teenagers these days seriously don't even know MomoClo sings anymore.
    They basically just register them as "those background-noise people who show up in commercials."
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:56
    Re: #62
    More like people in their 20s.

    Background and the Key Points of Debate

    Momoiro Clover Z’s “Autumn Peach God Festival 2026” runs on a deal where MomoClo itself takes no appearance fee but keeps all the ticket revenue, while host Chōsei Village provides the land for free and covers infrastructure and security costs exceeding ¥100 million. The scale of that burden has already been discussed in other threads, and in this one it split posters into two camps: those defending it as justified by the economic benefit to the area, and those criticizing it as placing a heavier burden on a local government than any Hello! Project group imposes. The other point of contention was ticket sales — the thread title provocatively claims tickets “aren’t selling at all,” but the body notes general sales are still open via Eplus, and this thread alone doesn’t settle whether sales are genuinely weak or simply still available right after going on sale. Chōsei is also the only municipality in Chiba Prefecture still officially designated a “village,” and the fact that access requires a bus from Mobara Station is relevant context for thinking about turnout and local economic impact.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad News] MomoClo’s Peach God Festival, happening next week in Chōsei Village, Chiba, apparently isn’t selling tickets at all lol.”

  • Haruka Ayase’s new film flops with a mere ¥13 million opening day — “Tough for anyone but Toho” fans say

    It’s been reported that ‘First Voice,’ the Haruka Ayase-starring film that opened on October 2, had a rough start, pulling in just ¥13 million at the box office on its first day. The film is a work of fiction inspired by Japan’s first harassment lawsuit, which took place in 1989, and reportedly scored a high 96.7% satisfaction rating in audience surveys — yet that praise never translated into actual ticket sales. On 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports News+ board, posters pointed out that the marketing leaned too heavily on the cast’s bubble-era fashion, creating an image disconnected from the film’s actual content, while others questioned whether Ayase herself still has real drawing power as an actress. The thread also touched on the broader structural issue of how films not distributed by Toho tend to struggle.

    Haruka Ayase’s starring film shockingly underperforms — doing worse than a Daiki Shigeoka movie — as “hits are tough for anyone but Toho” becomes a harsh reality

    “First Voice,” the Haruka Ayase vehicle that opened on October 2, is struggling at the box office.

    The film is a work of fiction inspired by Japan’s first-ever harassment lawsuit, which took place in 1989 at the height of the bubble economy.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:39
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:39
    I saw the ads everywhere and it still bombed this hard?
    124AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:15
    Re: #3
    Audience surveys recorded a 96.7% satisfaction rate and a 95.6% word-of-mouth recommendation score, and it's scoring well on review sites too (around 4.0 on sites like Eiga.com).
    But the marketing pushed the cast's bubble-era fashion so hard that people got an impression totally disconnected from the actual content, and that scared audiences off.
    To really get this film you need to understand the social atmosphere of the time and how hard life was for women back then — and the movie actually captures that beautifully.
    This is a complete marketing failure, plain and simple.
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Sounds like people who've actually seen it are saying good things though.
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:50
    Re: #9
    If only hardcore fans are watching it, of course all you'll get is praise — the real red flag is that there's no range of opinions at all.
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    What is Horipro even trying to do with Ayase at this point?
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    Japanese people buy Uniqlo clothes, but they really hate the Uniqlo brand itself — about as much as they hate Aeon.

    Apparently there's data on this that the ad agencies never make public.
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    Toho's been dominant for a while now, but is the gap just getting even wider?
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    This isn't the kind of thing you pay movie-theater prices to watch —
    it's NHK two-hour-drama-tier stuff.
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:43
    Is Haruka Ayase one of those people who ranks high on the brand-image surveys ad agencies pitch to clients, but has basically zero actual popularity?
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Haruka Ayase's starring films bombing is basically the default at this point, so it's not "shockingly" flopped, it's "of course" it flopped.
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Re: #19
    Yeah, exactly this.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:01
    Re: #19
    Back in the day, the film industry and media used to say "idol movies don't make money."

    Sorry to say it, but in the film industry Haruka Ayase's reputation is still just that of an "idol-type actress."

    Old Kadokawa films starring Hiroko Yakushimaru or Tomoyo Harada were also "idol movies," but those worked because Kadokawa had Yakushimaru and Harada turn down all TV appearances, running a "if you want to see Harada or Yakushimaru, come to the theater" strategy — and it paid off.

    Ayase's agency Horipro has no strategy like that, so unfortunately there's no way a movie starring an "idol-type actress" is going to pull in an audience.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    I honestly thought she was gonna bust out the "Bubbly Dance" (her viral 2017 TV dance routine) in this.
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Shigeoka — Johnny's weird, self-appointed "serious actor" guy.
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Forget Ayase for a second, does anyone even want to watch a movie like this in the first place…?
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Feels like one of those shows Suzu Hirose is always doing on TV Asahi.
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Nobody's going to the theater just because Haruka Ayase is in it, right?
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    It's because they cast people like First Summer Uika just for the "First" pun with the title, that's why.
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    Even though it's set in the early Heisei era,
    I had no idea what they were going for with First Summer Uika's makeup in this.
    If they wanted to cast First Summer Uika, they should've skipped that makeup.
    And if she can't appear without that makeup, they should've just cast a different actress.
    Her makeup wasn't this heavy in the NHK historical drama, was it?
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:47
    Do they seriously think audiences will show up for a "movie village" production — and I mean that in the bad sense (slang for an insular, industry-clique production nobody outside wants to watch)?
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:47
    Honestly, "middle-aged lady" leads are just a tough sell at this point.
    And the subject matter isn't exactly hit material either.
    Might be good content, but…
    I'll just catch it on regular TV lol
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:50
    Like how the Moribito TV drama also flopped hard, Haruka Ayase herself probably just doesn't have the numbers to pull people in.
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:51
    Re: #43
    So Haruka Ayase's biggest hit is…
    Uniqlo?
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:51
    So would this content have been a hit if Suzu Hirose or Mio Imada starred instead?
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:53
    Re: #52
    Maybe they should hand out limited-edition acrylic stands of Ayase on a weekly rotation? (picking nose — a dismissive, "yeah right" gesture)
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:54
    Haruka Ayase and Masami Nagasawa have both been stuck doing weird movies lately — the kind that don't pull numbers and don't get any awards traction either.
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:58
    Re: #63
    Nagasawa's just a weirdo who genuinely likes that kind of thing.
    You can tell from her Kincho (insecticide brand) commercials.
    99AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:09
    > It's still better than the ¥25 million opening-week gross for Oji Suzuka's "Beasts Clutching at Straws," which opened last week.

    Way to phrase it (lol)
    111AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:12
    Re: #99
    How many theaters was that one even playing in?
    Feels like it's not really a fair comparison.
    119AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:14
    Re: #99
    That guy's a newcomer, so it's understandable for him.
    But for someone treated as basically a "national actress" to end up nearly the same as him? That's embarrassing.
    115AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:13
    Itakura's wife's movie is actually doing well though.
    122AnonymousOct 10, 2026 10:15
    Re: #115
    Kind of cheap that Re: #1 doesn't even mention that Toei movie, huh.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    “First Voice” is inspired by Japan’s first harassment lawsuit, which took place in 1989 during the bubble era, and its release scale and distribution setup differ from a major Toho production. The ¥13 million opening-day figure itself can look very different depending on how many theaters it played in, so it can’t simply be written off as a flat-out “flop.” Where the thread split was over whether to blame the struggle on the marketing approach (overemphasizing bubble-era fashion) or on Haruka Ayase’s own drawing power as an actress. The 96.7% satisfaction figure from the audience survey comes from the distributor’s own announcement — the article doesn’t specify the sample size or methodology, and it’s worth noting that it’s a separate metric from actual attendance numbers. The industry theory that “idol movies don’t hit,” illustrated with examples from Showa-era Kadokawa films, also has its limits when compared directly to today’s distribution and marketing environment.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Haruka Ayase’s starring film shockingly underperforms a Daiki Shigeoka movie… struggles with a ¥13 million opening-day gross, as “hits are tough for anyone but Toho” becomes a harsh reality.”

  • Wolverine’s User Score Drops to 6.6 After Another ~300-Review Purge — 5ch: “I Can’t Stop Laughing”

    Sony’s new action game Wolverine has seen another big swing in its Metacritic user score. According to the thread’s original poster, roughly 300 reviews were mass-deleted, dropping the score to 6.6. Post #48 in the thread compiled an independent timeline of the score’s rise and fall — 6.4 → 6.7 → 6.3 → 7.1 → 6.6 — and some are now pointing out that the total number of deleted reviews has topped 1,000. Behind the story is talk that the game carries a 6-million-unit sales target tied to keeping its Marvel license, and opinions were split on whether it still makes sense to keep manipulating the score this long after launch.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:50
    Looks like about 300 reviews got deleted.
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:52
    That's not the real issue — the content is.

    What's the point of a 90-point score for this 'Fart-verine' (a mocking nickname for the game) anyway?
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:59
    Re: #6
    Come on, man… that's exactly what it is.
    It's the scammer's playbook — con the clueless to keep the lifeline going.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:52
    300 is just insane.
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:53
    Re: #8
    That's more than the total review count of some niche games put together.
    For a game nobody's paying attention to like Wolverine, you can manipulate it all you want.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:54
    ■ Sony games
    · When the manipulation gets deleted, the score goes down ↓

    ■ Nintendo games
    · When the manipulation gets deleted, the score goes up ↑
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    Re: #13
    Funny how the trend runs exactly opposite, huh (sarcasm)
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    It's already been quite a while since launch, so score manipulation shouldn't even matter anymore, right?
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:56
    Re: #15
    There's still a 6-million-unit quota though?
    They've got no choice but to keep trying.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:57
    If they don't sell 6 million, Marvel cuts the contract, was it?
    They're desperate lol
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    Re: #19
    Might as well just drop that shackle already.
    A Marvel game isn't going to sell well regardless.
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    That's 300 just from the ones that got caught and deleted.
    Add in the ones that haven't been caught and who knows how many there really are 🥺
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    Re: #32
    Actually, the total of all reviews deleted so far is already over 1,000.

    There've been about four separate rounds where hundreds got wiped at once.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:03
    Re: #36
    That's such a different order of magnitude I can't even laugh.
    What even is this.
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:09
    Re: #36
    Topping 1,000 is genuinely chilling.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:04
    They're spending money in the wrong place.
    Put that money into making the game instead of this.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:11
    Re: #42
    They're spending $300 million on Wolverine though.

    Whatever budget 'Director Kojima' (a nickname for Hideo Kojima, known for lavish game budgets) would ask for is actually reasonable if you're making a AAA title.
    94AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:17
    Re: #42
    A creativity crisis, is it?

    Back for Death Stranding 1's launch, Sony reportedly spent an amount in that single launch month equal to Nintendo's entire annual US marketing budget — so their manipulation budget is probably on a different scale from everyone else's too.
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:10
    The History of Sony's Wolverine User-Score Manipulation
    *Note: the Metascore shown already reflects manipulation

    6.4
    ↓
    6.7 (SONY starts bombing with 10/10s from new accounts)
    ↓
    6.4 (SONY's manipulated scores get deleted)
    ↓
    6.3
    ↓
    6.8 (SONY angrily bombs with 9s and 10s from new accounts)
    ↓
    7.0 (the instant it hits 7.0, new accounts posting 8s and 9s increase)
    ↓
    After hitting 7.0 and a brief trickle of new-account 8s and 9s, the new-account 10/10 bombing pauses for about half a day — the first time that's happened
    ↓
    7.1 (new-account 10/10 bombing resumes)
    ↓
    6.8 (about 300 reviews deleted, Metascore also drops by 1)
    ↓
    6.7 (another roughly 200 reviews deleted)
    ↓
    6.8 (SONY angrily bombs with new-account 8-10s)
    ↓
    6.7 (reviews drift slightly up and down)
    ↓
    6.8 (new-account 8-10 bombing ongoing in real time)
    ↓
    6.6 (roughly 300 more reviews deleted again, and the new-account manipulation is still going)
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:11
    Re: #48
    This is hilarious, I can't.
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:13
    Re: #48
    Without the manipulation it'd probably be sitting at 6.3 or even lower.
    Looks like there'll be another deletion round coming too.
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:14
    Re: #48
    Keep this up and even the NDNB crowd is going to snap.
    There's already been a lot of foreigners pissed off at PlayStation this year.
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:12
    Why does nobody get called out for this kind of blatant manipulation, or for stuff like the 'GK' (slang for die-hard Sony/PlayStation fanboys) movie-critic nonsense (lol) that's happened with sources to prove it?
    I'd love for the idiots who go on about 'NBP' to explain that one.
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:17
    Re: #53
    Probably because they're throwing money at overseas 'journalists' (wink wink).
    Toward Japan they seem to have mostly given up and let it slide, though Tane occasionally pushes back.
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:13
    They should've just honestly made Wolverine open world.
    What was all that effort on Spider-Man even for, then?
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:21
    Re: #54
    It's probably a different dev team working on it in parallel over a long stretch.
    It started before they could absorb the other team's know-how, so this is the result.
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:20
    Metacritic's a mess too — Marathon's Steam review count was no different from Slay the Spire 2's, despite Slay the Spire 2 having up to 7x the peak concurrent players. And on the PlayStation Store, games that get trashed everywhere else routinely still sit at 4+ stars.
    Everything gets weird the moment Sony's involved.
    67AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:23
    Re: #61
    I'd like to believe nobody actually predicts sales figures off of a store's review count.
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:21
    Even as a PlayStation user myself, this is honestly a game you shouldn't be hyping up…
    75AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:31
    Re: #63
    You don't actually think the people doing this manipulation have played the game, do you?
    79AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:36
    Re: #63

    I think honest, likable PlayStation users like this one disappearing is exactly why PlayStation's been struggling.
    85AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:39
    Re: #63
    It's been mocked to death already, but I quit right at the opening scene where you pop both claws with R2+L2 — it felt way too childish.
    The system is way too kiddie for the tone and visuals it's going for, it's a mess.
    76AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:32
    They could just cut it loose.
    Why do they need to hype this up so much anyway?
    80AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #76
    Probably the Marvel contract.
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:35
    Once word gets around that the user score is being manipulated, it's just going to sell even worse — are Sony and the fanboys stupid or what.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #78
    Maybe it's the same logic as a scam — if even a few people fall for it, it's a win.
    Not something a legitimate company should be doing, though.

    Then again, part of the blame is on a system that lets this slide even temporarily.
    102AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:22
    If it were just handing out high scores to Shitsony (a derogatory nickname for Sony) titles, that'd be one thing,
    but there's also a ton of trash that gives Microsoft's games low scores without exception.

    https://www.metacritic.com/user/hp1709/

    Gears E-Day: 4

    Wolverine: 10

    SAROS: 9

    Kiln: 3

    Marathon (PS5): 10

    Marathon (PC): 10

    Returnal: 10

    The Last of Us Part II: 10
    107AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:30
    Re: #102
    Guess even they couldn't bring themselves to give SAROS a 10, lol

    Background and Points of Debate

    Metacritic’s user score system lets anyone post a review, which makes it prone to “review bombing” — a single person using multiple accounts to dump a batch of extreme scores at once. Because the operators detect unnatural posting patterns and delete them in bulk, scores swinging up and down over a short period isn’t unusual on its own, and some point out that similar mass deletions have happened with Nintendo titles too (post #13). What split the thread wasn’t the number swings themselves, but whether to focus on the “scale of the manipulation” or on “the game’s actual content.” The timeline in post #48 is just one user’s manual tracking of events over time, not an officially confirmed record. It’s also worth noting that the 6-million-unit quota and the terms of the Marvel contract are only hearsay within the thread — not information Sony or anyone involved has officially disclosed.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch Hardware/Industry board (commonly called “Geha”) thread “[Sad News] Sony’s Wolverine Has Another Mass Review Deletion, Score Drops to 6.6 😭“.

  • ‘Marvel’s Wolverine’ Estimated at 6.16 Million Units Worldwide Sparks Debate on 5ch

    Overseas outlet Game Business reported, citing figures compiled by research firm Ampere Analysis, that “Marvel’s Wolverine” had sold approximately 6.16 million units worldwide (about 95% digital). On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board, the numbers kicked off comparisons with Nintendo titles’ sales figures, but the conversation quickly turned to the reliability of Ampere Analysis’s estimates themselves. Pointing to the firm’s estimate of 1.4 million units for “Death Stranding 2” — a number never officially confirmed in the publisher’s earnings reports — posters repeatedly argued that “this outfit’s analysis can’t be trusted,” and the thread devolved into everyone demanding sources from each other.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:22
    Overseas outlet The Game Business cited data from research firm Ampere Analysis showing the game sold roughly 6.16 million units worldwide, with physical copies making up 5% of that total.
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:24
    A decision has already been made that PlayStation games releasing from January 2028 onward will drop physical disc versions entirely; digital copies are said to already account for about 82% of full-game PlayStation software sales, with publishers like Capcom seeing around 90% digital.
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Re: #2
    Capcom's digital figures include the key-card versions too, you know
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:26
    Don't go making stuff up.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:33
    Re: #6
    Wait, what?! So Fire Emblem sold more than 2.16 million copies?
    If you can't answer that, I'll take it as you losing the argument, deal?
    If you don't answer, I'm putting you on my ignore list (NG = 5ch's built-in "mute this poster" feature).
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:34
    Re: #14
    Guess getting caught making stuff up was embarrassing, huh.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:35
    Rhythm Heaven
    1,000,000 units
    Derby Stallion
    30,000 units
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #19
    If you exclude Mario Kart World — whose sales are mostly bundle copies — Switch 2 only has one million-seller to its name.
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #18
    So, source?
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:40
    Re: #21
    https://www.gamebusiness.jp/article/2026/10/10/28283.html

    Opening up a lead of over 2 million copies on FE with this (verb garbled in the original post, but the gist is "crushing it")
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:44
    Re: #29
    There's a weird part in there again lol
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:41
    So, where's the source for the 6.16 million figure?
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:45
    Re: #30
    If you want the source for Rhythm Heaven's 1 million and Derby Stallion's 30,000, right here —
    go ahead and take a look


    https://www.famitsu.com/ranking/game-sales
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:44
    Death Stranding 2, which this outfit's analysis claims sold 1.4 million copies.
    And yet Death Stranding 2 wasn't even mentioned in the earnings report.
    Don't forget — it got quietly written off without any official numbers, simply because it didn't sell.
    This place's analysis really can't be trusted…
    Death Stranding 2 left quite a legacy behind, huh.
    There's zero point in this nonsense hype job being pushed by fanboys who can't keep their personal feelings separate from the facts.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:47
    Re: #33
    CAN'T. BE. TRUSTED!
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:47
    So it was actually selling fine after all, huh.
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:49
    Re: #40
    Nah, 2.16 million isn't enough.
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:51
    Re: #44
    2 million times 9,000 yen already comes out to 18 billion yen in sales.
    I'd call that a big success.
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:52
    Re: #53
    But Wolverine's budget is reportedly $30 billion, you know.
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:54
    Re: #53
    Factor in the development costs and that's not enough.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:50
    Re: #44
    Opening sales of 2 million aren't that different from Spider-Man's.
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:56
    Re: #50
    Fire sales have already started everywhere — what's the outlook for it growing from here?
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:54
    Re: #54
    $30 billion comes out to about 3 trillion yen.
    There's no way that's right.
    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:58
    Re: #61
    Actually, that works out to 4 trillion.
    Though it's probably a typo for $300 million.
    71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:59
    704 Anonymous-desperately-posting 2026/10/10 (Sat) 08:25:24.22 ID:PFCYkqEv0
    703
    The source is the thread title — is that a problem?

    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1791498989/704
    Dragon's Dogma 2: Dark Arisen, Metascore 88! PS5 version alone drags it down to 83 due to loads of bugs and freezing 😭

    Apparently "the thread title is the source" is good enough.
    74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:01
    Re: #71
    Oh, this is that fake thread "Nishi-kun" (slang nickname for a Nintendo fanboy) was spreading around the other day, huh?
    Guess it really does go both ways.
    80AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:03
    Re: #71
    Actually, looking now, the PC version has dropped to 85.
    Guess it really was just a review-count issue after all.
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:59
    Skipping the PC version really was the right call after all.
    It sells well and you get to keep the quality high — nothing but upside.
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:00
    Re: #72
    The guy who keeps misusing "pasokonga" (slangy/garbled way of saying "PC version") only ever shows up when stock's actually circulating, huh.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Sales estimates from third-party research firms like Ampere Analysis are a different thing from the official figures publishers disclose in their earnings reports — they’re ultimately just estimates built on market data. The thread’s cited figure of 1.4 million units for “Death Stranding 2” doesn’t appear anywhere in Kojima Productions’ earnings materials either, and was brought up as an example of the gap between such estimates and actual disclosed results. Meanwhile, the claim in response 2 that “PlayStation software will drop physical disc versions starting January 2028” is an actual industry policy, not speculation, reflecting the fact that digital sales already make up 80-90% of the market. That said, the thread also saw an error where a development budget of “$30 billion” was really meant to be around “$300 million” — a good reminder that in these cross-platform sales-comparison threads, numbers tend to spread unchecked and take on a life of their own.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, aka “Geha”) thread “[Bad News for Nintendo Fanboys] “Marvel’s Wolverine” Actually Sold 6.16 Million Copies lololol.”

  • Are Today’s Hit Songs Too “Frantic”? 5ch Debates Music for the “Dopamine Kid” Generation

    An article that used the term “dopa-gaki” (dopamine kids) — applying young people’s social-media- and short-video-honed craving for constant stimulation to recent hit songs — became a hot topic on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports News+ board. Against the claim that today’s hits by acts like Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE are “packed with too many notes and feel frantic,” the thread saw nostalgic voices for Showa-era pop and ’90s J-POP clash with pushback along the lines of “people have said the same thing in every era.” The discussion also spread to whether any of today’s songs will be remembered by later generations, and to the state of music overseas.

    Why Are Today’s Hit Songs So “Restless”? The Music of the “Dopa-Gaki” Era, as Seen in Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE

    Lately you hear the term “dopa-gaki” (dopamine kids) a lot. It’s a mocking term for young people who can’t put their phones down, constantly feeding on stimulation from social media and short-form video — likened to dopamine addicts.

    Some view this tendency — losing the ability to spend time savoring a novel or a film, with the mind instead darting straight to momentary pleasure — as a social problem.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:31
    That's where Showa-era pop comes in.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Re: #3
    Showa pop is great.
    My parents watch those enka-singer shows, and the songs performed there are good too.
    Stuff like "Bus Stop," group songs — tons of classics.
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
    Re: #57
    Two years ago they rebroadcast the entire 1971 (Showa 46) Kohaku Uta Gassen, and I recorded it and still have it saved.
    Japanese music that year was truly a banner year.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
    Got no money
    Got no brains
    Don't have a single close friend

    I'm headed to Tokyo, I am


    Nah, don't come here, seriously (riffing on Yoshi Ikuzou's classic 1984 song "Ora Tokyo Sa Iguda" / "I'm Off to Tokyo")
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
    Music now is better than it was back around 2010.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
    So that's why I don't like recent songs.
    Glad I'm not a dopa-gaki.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
    City pop is trending at the same time too, so isn't that fine? There's room for all kinds of music.
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    Re: #8
    It feels less like genuine love and more like "I heard it's popular overseas, so let's give it a listen."
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
    That's because the production style is straight out of the Vocaloid generation.
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
    Way too many notes crammed in, it's just noisy.
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
    J-POP had a lot of great songs in the 1990s.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
    "Music these days…!" — people have been saying that for decades.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
    It all comes down to play counts now — just a matter of how many idiots will loop it on repeat.
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
    Songs made purely to sell just don't cut it anymore.
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
    Are you making fun of monotonous K-POP?
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:36
    If you don't like today's songs, just go listen to Hide & Rosanna (a 1970s duo) or something.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:36
    Didn't someone say there are young people reacting against that by retreating into Showa-era pop?
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:37
    They just wanted an excuse to say "dopa-gaki."
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:40
    Someone like Ado is really just screaming, honestly.
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Re: #35
    That just means you only know that type of song.

    Besides, even among widely-known songs, they're not all like that.
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:40
    At the very least, there are almost no songs people will still hum decades later.
    Take Akina Nakamori, for example — she was more an idol than an artist, yet some of her songs are still known today. What about Mrs. GREEN APPLE and the rest?
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Re: #36
    People were saying the exact same thing about her back then too — that stuff like that wouldn't last for later generations.
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:43
    Re: #36
    Why is Akina Nakamori even the comparison here, lol.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
    Kawarabo fizzled out in an instant, huh (a slang nickname for a group/trend).
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    Re: #38
    Even though it's supposedly "over," breaking arena tour records is impressive.
    Everyone else looks pathetic by comparison.
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Re: #38
    For this year's Kohaku, Furuppa (nickname) will probably get to perform again.
    Kyanchu (nickname for CANDY TUNE), though, is a stretch.
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
    Aren't AKB's songs from their peak era — which got trashed way worse at the time — actually better than today's idol songs?
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Re: #44
    They got slammed for "making minors sing lyrics like this."
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Re: #44
    It's just turning into "things were better back then."
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
    Nogizaka46's songs aren't aimed at dopa-gaki and have plenty of good ones, it's a shame they don't get heard.
    62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    Re: #52
    That's because the public wants Jiro-style ramen, but they're serving trendy boutique ramen instead (Ramen Jiro: a famously hearty, no-frills ramen chain, used here as a metaphor for substance over style).
    71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:47
    Re: #52
    Idol group songs do have some good ones if you actually listen.
    It's just that I deliberately avoid them, and when I see them singing on TV it just looks like a chorus line reciting information, so I switch it off.

    I record Kohaku and watch it later, and that's often the first time I hear a song and think, "oh, this one's actually good."
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
    Despite having so many notes packed in, nothing sticks, so I never end up memorizing it.
    Meanwhile, Boogieman's "PACHINKO・MAN" — a song I found annoying 34 years ago and still don't even like — I can hum it instantly. Why is that?
    66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
    Re: #59
    Because you were sensitive and still young back then.
    73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
    This isn't just Japan.
    The US and UK are the same way.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:49
    Re: #73
    Even in America the top-charting stuff is "that," but country music still sells at a steady clip.

    Though these days "country" often has rap mixed into it, so it might look pretty different from what you'd expect, lol.
    74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
    Spitz, after all.
    85AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:50
    Re: #74
    Ever since Aimyon publicly said she's a Spitz fan, Spitz otaku have suddenly multiplied.
    The annoying part is they all act like "oh, I've always loved them."

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Dopa-gaki” is a coined term for young people accustomed to the stimulation of social media and short-form video, and the original article used it to analyze the composition of recent hit songs. What divided the thread was whether today’s songs are genuinely overloaded with notes and thin on substance, or whether posters were simply repeating the nostalgic cliché that “music these days is no good.” Comparisons were drawn to Akina Nakamori and AKB48’s peak-era songs, but some pointed out that AKB’s songs were likewise criticized at the time for their lyrics and staging — suggesting the “things were better back then” argument has repeated itself across generations regardless. A comment also claimed country music maintains a certain level of popularity in the US, but this was a single opinion within the thread, and no supporting statistics appeared in the original article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Why Are Today’s Hit Songs So “Restless”…? The Music of the “Dopa-Gaki” Era, as Seen in Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE.”

  • Orix Scouting Shintaro Fujinami — 5ch: “Osaka Toin Battery Reunion Incoming”

    It has emerged that the Orix Buffaloes are looking into acquiring pitcher Shintaro Fujinami (32), who was recently released by DeNA. Strengthening the starting rotation was this season’s top priority after the team finished fourth, and the club reportedly has its eye on his 160+ km/h fastball and relatively injury-free track record, planning to keep tabs on him until negotiations open after the NPB tryout camp. If the move happens, it would also revive the “Osaka Toin battery” pairing with catcher Tomoya Mori, drawing plenty of attention. On the thread, excitement about his talent mixed with skepticism, given his history of failing to fix his control issues across several teams.

    It was learned on the 9th that the Orix Buffaloes have begun looking into pitcher Shintaro Fujinami (32), who was released by DeNA. Aiming to bolster their starting rotation — a key issue for the team — they’re focusing on his blazing fastball of over 160 km/h, along with his experience and track record. The plan is to keep tracking his situation until negotiations open after the tryout camp held in November. Should the move come together, it would revive the “Osaka Toin battery” with catcher Tomoya Mori (31) — and that’s bound to draw huge attention.

    Orix has firmly set its sights on next season. After sinking to fourth place and a sub-.500 finish for the first time in two years, the club reviewed its performance across the whole season and made strengthening the rotation its top priority. They drew up a list of candidate pitchers, both domestic and international — and Fujinami was one of the central names on it.

    This season he made only three top-team appearances for DeNA, but his 160+ km/h fastball shows no sign of losing steam. Another appealing point is that he hasn’t had any major injury layoffs over his career. He has 58 career wins in NPB and also pitched in 64 major league games — plenty of both results and experience. At the end of September, once it became clear he wasn’t part of DeNA’s plans for next season, Fujinami expressed hope for the future, saying, “Toward the end of the season I felt like I was getting back to pitching like myself. I’d love the chance to keep playing in NPB.” Orix had already been quietly tracking his situation behind the scenes ever since.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:17
    Hanshin fan: "If he's in the Pacific League, go ahead and run wild all you want"
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:19
    Re: #6
    Farm teams share the same region, so we'll get caught in the blast too
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:20
    Re: #6
    Hanshin's farm team actually faces Orix pretty often though
    96AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:47
    Re: #6
    Interleague play: "Nice to meet ya, buddy"
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:17
    Rather than let some other team grab him, are they signing him just to protect their own hitters?
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:18
    Pretty much a done deal, huh
    My condolences to Pacific League batters and Farm League West hitters
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:20
    It's got that thrill of digging through the junk bin at Hard Off (a used-goods chain store — you never know what you're gonna get)
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:20
    Even DeNA, who said they could fix his control, couldn't do it.
    Does Orix have some kind of plan?
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:24
    Re: #14
    Sounds like they're pinning a sliver of hope on Tomoya Mori.
    Well, since he's seen Fujinami at his absolute best, maybe there's an outside chance he can get him right again?
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:21
    Tetsuto Yamada: "Getting hit by a pitch doesn't scare me, but Fujinami does"
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:21
    A battery with Mori, here it comes!! キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (classic 5ch celebration emoticon)
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:22
    The Osaka Toin battery with Tomoya Mori, incoming!! クル━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!?
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:22
    The talent shortage is a real problem.
    Signing him is a gamble, but
    if you've got room to spare, you'd probably take the bet.
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:22
    Hanshin made him this way, so they should take responsibility and take him back —
    don't go dumping him on the rest of the Pacific League
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:23
    Re: #23
    I have no idea what you're talking about
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Re: #23
    If anything, that'd be Hiroshima —
    he got completely broken by Kuroda chewing him out
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:24
    The front office is probably just resigned to it at this point — they likely figure that just having a loose cannon like this on the roster puts weird pressure on the other team
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:24
    Can't really explain why, but I think this feels right —
    seems like a good fit
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Why do they keep trying to pick up guys this wild?
    Are they stupid?
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Isn't Orix's pitching staff basically just a pile of injured guys?
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    If they're signing him knowing his history, they ought to arrest the front-office exec responsible for assault every single time he hits a batter
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Never learn, do they~ "His fastball's got the speed, so if we just fix his control he could be an ace" — they've tried that over and over and it's never panned out.
    Far better to bet on drafting a bunch of high-school rookie pitchers and developing them instead.
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:25
    Losing Yamamoto really hurts, huh.
    Finding a replacement for a World Series MVP-caliber player — isn't that basically impossible?
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:26
    Yoshinori Sato was confident he could revive Fujinami, and since he's an Orix alum, why not just bring him in as a guest coach?
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:27
    I think Hanshin should just take him back and use him only against Hiroshima —
    and whenever Satoteru (Teruaki Sato) gets hit by a pitch, send pitcher Fujinami out as the retaliator
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:27
    If he just ditched the three-quarter arm slot, even his wild pitches wouldn't turn into hit-by-pitches
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:27
    Fujinami's basically a Ferrari with no steering wheel and no brakes
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:28
    Better to have him on your own team than get wrecked facing him, right?
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:28
    Fujinami will never perish — he'll keep coming back again and again!
    Because Fujinami's power is the romance that baseball fans live for!! (riffing on Char Aznable's famous line from Gundam)
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:28
    Sounds like they figure it'll have been worth it if he breaks SoftBank's Masaki (Ryoya Masaki, a promising young SoftBank hitter)
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:29
    Is Japanese pro baseball really still trying to sign a killing machine like this?
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:29
    Guess the only way to win the pennant now is to wreck SoftBank's players
    99AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:48
    He's been technically lost for like 10 years now and he's still active — that's impressive in its own weird way
    105AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:52
    Re: #99
    He's got the talent, just not the technique.
    Probably Kanemoto's fault (former Hanshin manager Tomoaki Kanemoto)
    114AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:53
    If his talent ever fully blossoms, he could become the best pitcher in Japanese baseball history.
    I hear any manager would jump at the chance to develop him.
    116AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:55
    Re: #114
    Apparently he just doesn't listen to anyone, though
    119AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:56
    What's even the point of "curing his yips" at this stage
    128AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:58
    Re: #119
    (Honestly he doesn't even throw serious bullpens and his grouping's bad, but sure, let's just call it "yips")

    Background and key points of this topic

    Shintaro Fujinami has 58 career wins in NPB and also pitched in 64 major league games, yet he’s also a pitcher whose control problems — dating back to his Hanshin days — have consistently drawn attention. This season Orix finished fourth, a sub-.500 result for the first time in two years, and the thin depth of the starting rotation has remained an issue ever since ace Yoshinobu Yamamoto departed for overseas. Against that backdrop, it isn’t strange that the club would look into a player valued for his track record and blazing fastball. The thread split between an optimistic camp hoping “if his talent finally blooms” and a realist camp countering that “even DeNA couldn’t fix him,” with skeptics pointing to his history of the same issue persisting across multiple teams. It’s worth noting that terms like “yips” used in the thread are speculation from posters, not an official explanation from the team or the player himself. The tryout camp and the start of contract negotiations are still some way off, so nothing about an actual signing has been decided.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Orix looking into acquiring pitcher Shintaro Fujinami (32).”

  • Tokumitsu: “Maybe the Giants Can Win If Sato Leaves for the Majors” — 5ch Reacts: “Nobody Here Knows Any NPB Player But Ohtani”

    Right after the Hanshin Tigers clinched the franchise’s first-ever back-to-back Central League pennant (their 12th title overall) on October 3, freelance announcer Kazuo Tokumitsu — known as a Yomiuri Giants fan — let slip on his radio show that the Giants might finally start winning if Hanshin’s Teruaki Sato moves to the majors next year or the year after. Sato is this season’s Central League triple-crown winner (batting average, home runs, RBIs) and one of the team’s key players. The thread debated when such a move might actually happen and how the looming expiration of MLB’s collective bargaining agreement (a possible lockout) after next season could affect it, with some commenters questioning Giants fans for simply waiting around for a rival’s star to leave.

    October 10, 2026, 7:36 AM

    Freelance announcer Kazuo Tokumitsu appeared live on the 10th on Nippon Broadcasting System’s “Kazuo Tokumitsu’s Tokumori! Kayo Saturday” (Saturdays, 5:00 a.m.), the show he hosts.

    The show reported that on the 3rd, in the “JERA Central League,” Hanshin had clinched its 12th pennant overall (including four from the one-league era), achieving the franchise’s first-ever back-to-back Central League title.

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:51
    Whoa, hold on — did you forget your whole "NPB is supreme" philosophy?
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    Isn't Sato going to the majors starting next year anyway?
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    Won't this get decided before the year's even out?
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:55
    Barely any Japanese person can even name Teruaki Sato, the Hanshin player who just won the Central League triple crown.
    They only know Ohtani.
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:56
    THIS right here is the perfect symbol of a Giants fan lol
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:56
    Still this much of a fan even in old age — he's not losing to the diehard Tigers faithful ("Tora-kichi") in passion.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:56
    With a lockout, he could end up wasting an entire year of his prime lol
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:58
    Because of the lockout, next season's probably off the table.
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:59
    The cream of the crop is always going to leave for the majors no matter what, so all that's left is hoping the Giants win with whoever sticks around.
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 07:59
    If there's a lockout, big international free agents become available, so that's exactly where the Giants should make their move.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:00
    The headliner among batters is "Satoteru" (Sato's nickname)
    The headliner among pitchers is Taira
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    Back in the day, becoming a free agent basically meant you were headed to the Giants — since when did that stop being true?
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    That's exactly the point of FA signings and bringing in foreign reinforcements.
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    Huh? Sato's hitting the majors this offseason, right? He's clearly all in on it.
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    Re: #24
    No idea how the lockout's going to affect that.
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:01
    If the tough rivals just disappear, we win!
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    Is now really the time to be worrying about other teams?! There's a whole mess brewing over the next manager, and they're dragging out yet another washed-up old-timer — it's rotten.
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    Wonder if they could grab Austin, the guy who used to play for Yokohama (DeNA).
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:02
    If Sato moves to the majors, does Sato win, or do the Giants win? (Pick one.)
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:04
    Heard the Yankees raised a massive amount of money.
    Poaching Satoteru and Taira would actually fit their team needs, and in that ballpark he could hit 50 homers.
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:06
    Re: #33
    To begin with, joining the majors right after this season ends is going to be tough because of the lockout.
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:08
    Local Kansai announcers doing the "bandwagon Hanshin fan" act
    it's gross.
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:31
    Looking at his batting average, homers, and RBIs, it all feels kind of underwhelming — but is that actually impressive by today's standards?
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:32
    Re: #63
    Can't be helped — pitching quality has gone up and the ball doesn't fly like it used to.
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #63
    More than the raw numbers, he just doesn't give off a "big slugger" vibe, so I can't tell if he'll actually mesh well with MLB.
    90AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:59
    Re: #63
    Go look at everyone else's stats this year
    league-wide hitting is in the gutter right now.
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:31
    Seriously though, aren't the Giants folks ignoring the Climax Series way too much?
    Show a little more fighting spirit.
    66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:33
    Re: #64
    It's shaky whether they can even beat Yokohama (DeNA), so they've probably already given up on the CS.
    80AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:47
    What if winning the pennant shaved a year off the time needed to qualify for free agency?
    86AnonymousOct 10, 2026 08:52
    Re: #80
    Satoteru's posting timeline is actually the fastest possible one
    There's a rule that to get real money from MLB you need to be 25-plus or have 6-plus years of service
    Last year Satoteru hadn't cleared that 6-year mark yet, so he'd have ended up with a contract about as limited as pitcher Roki Sasaki's.

    Background and talking points

    Hanshin clinched the franchise’s first-ever back-to-back Central League pennant (its 12th title overall) on October 3, and Tokumitsu’s remarks came right on the heels of that. Sato is this season’s Central League triple-crown winner in batting average, home runs, and RBIs, and while several commenters speculated he could move to the majors as early as next year, the thread’s central debate centered on the possibility that MLB’s collective bargaining agreement (CBA) will expire after next season, triggering a lockout. Under a lockout, new contracts and free-agent signings freeze up, which would leave the timing of Sato’s move uncertain. Worth noting as a lesser-known detail: MLB’s posting system caps a player’s earning potential unless he’s either 25 or older or has six-plus years of NPB service, and since Sato doesn’t yet meet that threshold, he could end up with a contract as limited in size as pitcher Roki Sasaki’s even if he does move to the majors. Opinions in the thread split between those who called it “pathetic” for Giants fans to simply wait around for a rival’s star to leave, and those who saw it as a clear-eyed, realistic reinforcement strategy.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread ““Teruaki Sato will probably go to the majors next year or the year after, so maybe we’ll win then?”…Kazuo Tokumitsu reveals how Giants fans really feel [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.