Dragon Quest 5’s Flora Called Out for Being a Non-Presence — 5ch: “On Par With Pipin”

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The classic Dragon Quest V dilemma — whether to marry Bianca or Flora — is back on the table. Thread posters pointed out that Flora, often picked just for her Watery Robe and Mystical Armor equipment, doesn’t even appear on the game’s box art and has so little presence that she’s on par with the hidden character Pipin. Others countered that choosing Flora is the more logical choice given the hero’s debt of gratitude to her adoptive father, Ludman — highlighting that this age-old debate ultimately comes down to which character players connect with emotionally.

What people said

1AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:08
She doesn't show up on the SFC, PS2, or DS box art at all — honestly she gets about as much treatment as Pipin, who's technically a party member too.
2AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:09
There's not really a "Bianca vs. Flora debate" to begin with — it's just a loud contrarian minority making noise.
90AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:05
Re: #2
You wouldn't pick Flora on a first playthrough — not based on the story flow, not based on attachment.
93AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:06
Re: #2
That's a little too blunt, man.
6AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:11
Flora's better across the board honestly — you get money and items with her, and she can even cast Midheal (Behoimi) right off the bat.
37AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:27
Re: #6
If you're picking her for combat stats instead of bridal appeal, that's basically the same role Pipin fills.
8AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:12
If you just play it normally, it's Bianca — there's no reason to pick Flora on a first run.
42AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:32
Re: #8
If your presence is on par with Pipin's, you're disqualified as a wife candidate.
9AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:13
Isn't Flora basically Andy's hand-me-down?
13AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:16



Just look at the gap in heroine appeal.
15AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:17
In terms of ratio, it's probably like Bianca 8, Flora 2.
51AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:41
Re: #15
Setting aside the loud ones, if you're talking about actual player picks, that sounds about right — the gap's probably as big as Rem and Ram (the twin maids from Re:Zero).
20AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:18

Both her tastes and her personality are messed up, lol.
21AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:18
Why isn't there a "Pipin vs. Sancho" debate?
23AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:20
Re: #21
Because Sancho has his own unique niche — he's the whistle guy.
22AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:19
Some people say he only spent one day with Bianca, but there's dialogue showing they'd met and talked multiple times before that.
26AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:20
Re: #22
And on a first playthrough, you're not clearing Lenoor Castle in one night anyway.
33AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:26
Re: #22
The hero doesn't seem to remember it, but I wish they'd dug into that more.
57AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:44
Re: #22
That's just a baseless rumor spread by some calculating blue-haired girl who showed up out of nowhere.
28AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:22
I'm Team Bianca, the big-sister childhood friend type — I always pick Bianca, so I barely know anything about Flora.
58AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:45
Re: #28
She's never once talked about as appealing as a woman — her only selling points are Kaboom and the gifts her dad throws in.
29AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:24
Apparently Pipin's dialogue is super creepy.
59AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:46
Re: #29
Now I'm curious — I've played 5 multiple times and never even thought about Pipin, I'll try using him next time.
34AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:26
I wasn't too bright as a kid, so I thought Bianca was the innkeeper lady and Sancho's daughter —
that's why I never liked her.
yeah
63AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:50
Re: #34
Would Sancho really do that?
When Pankraz was away he probably just let loose and had fun too —
back when the hero was a kid, Sancho wasn't even that old yet.
40AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:29
Bianca shows some selfishness even as a kid, dumping an animal she rescued on her own onto the hero to take care of — but it's still Bianca for me.
53AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:42
A character with zero emotional attachment going for her:
secondhand goods from her childhood-friend boyfriend
a bonus that comes with a shield
doesn't even appear on the box art

Who's picking her?
55AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:44
Re: #53
I just thought, "Horii's got a mean streak."
If that's the case, why even bother having a wife-choosing scene?
79AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:57
Re: #53
That's exactly why she's the "contrarian pick" heroine.
80AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:58
I kept thinking, "Given the debt of gratitude to Ludman, even if the game says either choice is fine, logically you have to pick Flora" —
but nobody around me thinks that way, so now I'm wondering if I'm just overthinking it.
106AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:11
Re: #80
Getting that invested emotionally while you play just makes it more fun, so I'd say that's a good thing.
121AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:21
Re: #80
That's how RPGs are meant to be enjoyed anyway.
92AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:05
So I just started Dragon Quest V, and the hero and Bianca go clear out the ghosts at Lenoor Castle to save a baby panther that village kids were bullying, right?
But on the way to the castle, baby panthers just show up as regular enemies and you attack them without mercy — isn't that kind of messed up?
97AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:07
Re: #92
It's the difference between a stray dog and a pet dog.
98AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:07
Re: #92
When he saw it getting bullied in town he just called it "kitty," so he probably didn't even realize it was the same species as the baby panthers.
101AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:09
In the childhood arc, it's overwhelmingly one of them.
104AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:10
Bianca: beautiful childhood-friend older-sister type.
Flora: a bonus that comes with the Watery Robe and Mystical Armor.
118AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:20
Re: #104
Honestly Bianca isn't that much of a "childhood friend" to begin with — they only hunted ghosts together for a few days,
and then he spent about ten years as a slave afterward, so he'd forget.
122AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:22
Re: #104
This isn't even a fair fight —
it's not like the Takenoko-vs-Kinoko rivalry (a famous close "which snack is better" debate in Japan).

Background and Key Points of This Debate

The Dragon Quest V “Bianca vs. Flora” debate has been a staple topic ever since the SFC version launched in 1992, and this thread is just the latest round. Flora joins the party early on but barely participates in battle, which is why posters compare her presence to that of Pipin, a hidden character who rarely appears in box art or screen adaptations either. The case for choosing Flora tends to rest not on looks or emotional connection but on practical, plot-driven reasons — equipment like the Watery Robe and Mystical Armor, or the hero’s debt of gratitude to his adoptive father, Ludman — and the thread split along those lines of “emotion” versus “practicality.” Some argued Bianca only spent a few days with the hero in childhood, but there are scenes depicting multiple interactions between them before the Lenoor Castle quest, so the simple notion that “the childhood friend only had one day together” can be misleading.

*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Dragon Quest V’s Flora Is About as Relevant as Pipin.”

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