Angerme’s Suzuran Ise Recalls Her Takarazuka Dreams on Blog — 5ch: ‘Notice She Never Says “Juice”‘

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The story

Angerme’s Suzuran Ise wrote on her blog about memories of walking through her hometown of Sapporo after a long time away, along with recollections of once aiming to enter the Takarazuka Music School. Since this came right after Juice=Juice had stirred up Takarazuka-related chatter just the day before, the Hello! Project board on 5ch filled with overanalysis — comments like “it’s suspicious she doesn’t say Juice’s name” and “masterful how she brings up Takarazuka while dodging any comparison.” Attention also gathered around the fact that only three members — Ise, Kawana, and Matsumoto — updated their blogs that day, with posts speculating about the group’s internal situation.

I walked through the streets of Sapporo again for the first time in a while.

The shops I used to know have changed little by little, the buildings have been rebuilt, and even our beloved ESTA 🫶 (lol) — the shopping complex by Sapporo Station — is gone now. It made me a bit sad, but the cold outside hasn’t changed one bit. That chill in the air brought back memories of my daily life back then, going to lessons and walking home from school, and it made me unexpectedly happy.

Back in those days, it was about the same amount as now,

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What people said

3AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:46
Did she watch Juice's Takarazuka collab, I wonder?
4AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:47
The way she talks, you'd think she actually performed alongside them.
7AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:51
This is the classic 'convincing herself' pattern.
She must've seen Juice and told herself not to feel envious, resolving to keep doing her best with Angerme instead.
8AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:53
She's definitely decided to graduate next fall.
9AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:53
Ise's really been put through a rough stretch lately.
10AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:54
The dinner she was eating at the time was
this ↓
11AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:55
Sounds like Angerme's Hokkaido show nearly sold out even on a weekday
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1794442376/
13AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:55
Something about her not mentioning Juice's name…
14AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:56
Going out of her way to drop the word 'Takarazuka' at this exact moment, while absolutely refusing to touch on yesterday's Juice thing — that's some real stubbornness.
15AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:57
The whole premise is supposed to be that Juice has nothing to do with it, right.
She just happened to go back to her hometown and it reminded her of when she was aiming for Takarazuka, pure coincidence.

That's what she wants us to think, but if she claims Juice never crossed her mind while bringing up the word Takarazuka yesterday, that's definitely a lie, lol — so it's complicated.
23AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:01
Re: #15
This is the famous Ise who already learned that comparing yourself to others never leads anywhere good.
16AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:57
If she were an otokoyaku (a Takarazuka actress playing male roles), she'd be the top star
https://imgur.com/5SfdBUn.jpeg
33AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:06
Re: #16
Managing front-row seating for 'Tsubaki' (a Takarazuka star's fan nickname), huh, lol
19AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:58
Then why'd she look so down yesterday?
20AnonymousNov 12, 2026 14:59
Even so, she recorded it and watched it.
21AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:00
Of course she'd watch it, lol — she's human, she's bound to imagine 'what if that were us.'
26AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:01
Re: #21
She doesn't even need to go out of her way to watch it — just opening X (Twitter), it's flooding her timeline like crazy.
24AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:01
Her blog ranking dropped too
25AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:01
I wonder what her odds would've actually been if she'd skipped Hello! Project and gone for it (Takarazuka).
Since she ended up here instead, I guess the odds were pretty slim.
30AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:04
Re: #25
Even if she'd gotten her teeth fixed before applying, no telling if she'd have made it into the school anyway.
35AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:09
Bringing up Takarazuka at this exact timing basically points straight at the Juice collab.
38AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:11
Re: #35
Everyone knows she's a Zuka-ota (Takarazuka superfan), so she's well aware she'd get weird attention either way, whether she brought up yesterday's Juice thing or not.
That's why she pulled off the masterstroke of deliberately mentioning Takarazuka, framing it to work in her own favor, while never once touching on Juice.
40AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:11
Yesterday was this abnormal situation where only Matsumoto updated her blog.
Seriously, did something happen?
45AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:14
Re: #40
Even right now, only Ise, Kawana, and Matsumoto have updated their blogs.
41AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:11
No need to lament more than necessary.
It's just normal that their turn to endure hard times has come around.
Next it'll be Juice's turn to sink.

'Two years from now, who's worse off, Angerme or Juice?'
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1703233635/

1: Anonymous Wanted…: 2023/12/22 (Fri) 17:27:15.64 0
Angerme: Ise, Hashisako, Tamenaga, Kawana, Matsumoto, Hirayama, Shimoi, Goto

Juice: Matsunaga, Kudo, Arisawa, Irie, Ebata, Ishiyama, Endo, Kawashima
44AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:13
Re: #41
Lol, it's already been three years.
52AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:18
Re: #41
Lol, still comparing to Juice.
Unfortunately Angerme's lineup keeps shrinking, but Juice still has Dambara and Inoue.

And this is a thread from 2023 anyway, lol
46AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:15
Isn't Juice basically a guaranteed win just by having 'Ebamifu' (a fan nickname for a pair of members)?
50AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:17
Re: #46
They'll probably run out of steam once it's down to Ringo and Nina.
47AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:15
Dambara and Inoue are sticking around way longer than anyone expected.
That's exactly what's going to cause a huge mess later.
53AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:18
Re: #47
Hope it goes that way!
48AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:16
Rerapi has it rough too, honestly.
They just inherited a group that was doing fine but had already lost one capable person, then two, with results already slipping —
and now that it's gotten even worse, they're the one getting blamed for it. Kind of a sad situation.
56AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:19
Re: #48
And on top of that, the ones who already quit are the ones dragging things down.
49AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:16
Re: #38
She's really gotten twisted up over this.
Well, I get it, though.
55AnonymousNov 12, 2026 15:19
Re: #49
I mean, from her own point of view, she probably also thinks saying 'we'll do our best!' too much, the way Juice does, isn't great either.
She's said before that they're in a phase of doing their best their own way, so please stop comparing them.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

Among her peers, Suzuran Ise is known as a “Zuka-ota” (a Takarazuka Revue superfan), and before joining the group she had once aimed to enter the Takarazuka Music School. This particular blog post is a reminiscence about walking through her hometown of Sapporo, but it came the day after Juice=Juice appears to have stirred up excitement over a Takarazuka-related topic, and the overlapping timing fueled speculation on 5ch over whether she brought it up on purpose or out of consideration to avoid comparisons. Opinions in the thread are split between those who read it as simple nostalgia and those who see it as a comment made with awareness of the mood between the two groups. There were also posts expressing concern about the group’s internal situation, prompted by the fact that only a few members updated their blogs that day — though it’s worth noting this is thinly-supported speculation, not confirmed fact.

*This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Good News] Angerme’s Suzuran Ise Looks Back on Her Blog at the Time She Was Shining Toward Her Dream of Aiming for ‘Takarazuka’.”

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