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The story
In a car-upgrade advice thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (Live/Anything Broadcast) board, posters weighed in on candidates like the Honda Vezel, Mazda CX-60, and Toyota Land Cruiser Prado, with opinions split over fuel economy, interior quality, and driver-assist features. The Land Cruiser Prado proved especially popular for its looks, but just as many users flagged its high theft rate — one commenter recounted a friend whose car was stolen three times right after delivery, with the insurer eventually growing suspicious and refusing to pay out. In the end, several posters argued for value picks like the Corolla or Aqua instead, underscoring just how hard choosing a car can be.
What people said
Mazda CX-60
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
These are the ones I've got my eye on
Those are all over the place size-class-wise
I heard 2025-and-later models are safe now, no?
Really? Feels like a lot of their interiors are kind of meh though
I'm probably getting married soon, so I want something bigger
Both the interior and exterior look great. Which CX model is actually the best pick though?
Just get the CX-5, like the one in the Ayase Haruka ads
True… in that case the Vezel's a solid option after all
Looks good. How's the fuel economy?
Coming from an Aqua, it's SUVs all the way now — a Yaris Cross would do fine, assuming the dealer will actually let you order one
It's that popular?! I heard resale value holds up well too
Nothing wrong with liking it, but you can't really buy one at a normal price right now — even used ones cost about the same as new
You're looking at like 5 km/liter in city driving. Coming from an Aqua, your eyes would pop out of your head
I'm in Ibaraki, which is the worst in the whole country lol
It's that bad?! I figured the diesel would get better mileage…
Any 4WD built around off-road performance has bad fuel economy — same goes for the Jimny
Since it's not my problem, it's so absurd it's funny
They really get stolen that much? That's insane
The fundamental design is flawed, so it's just a band-aid fix
Is that so… it looks great but apparently resale isn't great either. Choosing a car really is hard
If your policy covers theft, you'll get a payout. That said, getting stolen still isn't a zero-damage situation
It's on par these days — honestly better than Lexus was a little while back
Did they drop the price on the Corolla Sport and Corolla Touring?
In that case wouldn't an Aqua do just as well?
ProPILOT is excellent. It feels completely natural and you can trust it. Other makers' ACC tends to jerk around speeding up and slowing down trying to follow the car ahead, but ProPILOT didn't do that at all — and even the regular (non-2.0) ProPILOT seems to pick up white lines well and kicks in a lot of assist to keep you from drifting out of your lane
Background and key points of this discussion
The Mazda CX-60 drew a wave of “failed model” criticism shortly after its 2022 launch, due to recurring issues like diesel engine shift-shock control, but opinions have been shifting as later, improved model years arrive. Meanwhile, Land Cruisers and Prados are known for strong overseas demand, which fuels a domestic epidemic of theft — including cars stripped for parts — so the thread’s story about a vehicle being stolen repeatedly right after delivery isn’t actually an outlier. The thread split between posters prioritizing practical factors like fuel economy and price and those valuing looks or brand prestige, highlighting that there’s no single “correct answer” in car buying. It’s also easy to overlook that even when insurance covers a theft, your no-claim discount grade typically drops — so you don’t walk away completely unscathed.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “I want to trade in my car but I can’t decide what to buy.”
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