Along a prefectural road inside Mt. Daisen National Park in Tottori Prefecture, roughly 40 kilograms of loaves of bread and chicken liver were found illegally dumped over the course of five days. Bear sightings have been reported repeatedly in the area, fueling speculation that the dumping is an attempt to lure bears with food.
On 5ch, users traded theories about who was behind the dumping and why, and one comparison drew particular attention: that it resembles the “baiting” technique used in American bear hunting.
Day after day, “large quantities of bread” and “chicken liver” illegally dumped along a prefectural road inside Mt. Daisen National Park… about 40kg over five days. “A purpose completely different from ordinary illegal dumping” — bear sightings reported in the area… risk of leading to feeding behavior
Published 8/20 (Thu) 19:20
BSS San’in Broadcasting
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
Don't tell me they're trying to lure bears all the way to Tokyo?
This bread looks like it'd run about ¥800 a loaf,
so that's ¥8,000 for ten loaves.
Are they really spending that kind of money just to pull this off?
At first I figured it was just unsold bread being dumped.
so that's ¥8,000 for ten loaves.
Are they really spending that kind of money just to pull this off?
At first I figured it was just unsold bread being dumped.
>>10
Probably unsold stock or bread past its sell-by date.
Has to be someone connected to bread manufacturing or sales.
Probably unsold stock or bread past its sell-by date.
Has to be someone connected to bread manufacturing or sales.
>>10
It's a manufacturer illegally dumping it, I bet.
Disposing of industrial waste costs real money for a factory.
Probably one of those premium bread shops that sprang up like weeds for a while —
business must be struggling.
It's a manufacturer illegally dumping it, I bet.
Disposing of industrial waste costs real money for a factory.
Probably one of those premium bread shops that sprang up like weeds for a while —
business must be struggling.
I feel like there's an "Ōyamauchi" over in Mie Prefecture.
>>12
That's Ōuchiyama, not Ōyama —
known for its milk and a zoo.
That's Ōuchiyama, not Ōyama —
known for its milk and a zoo.
Might track them down by looking for someone nearby who bought a ton of bread.
>>15
Probably discarded bread —
either a waste collector or someone who bought it off a vendor.
Probably discarded bread —
either a waste collector or someone who bought it off a vendor.
>>15
I'm a local, and I've got a pretty good idea whose it is.
There's video too, so now it's just a matter of gathering the rest of the evidence.
I'm a local, and I've got a pretty good idea whose it is.
There's video too, so now it's just a matter of gathering the rest of the evidence.
Probably the "poor bears" crowd, huh.
>>16
If it were about animal welfare, they wouldn't feed bears raw chicken in the middle of summer — that's basically poisoning them lol.
It's just illegal dumping.
If it were about animal welfare, they wouldn't feed bears raw chicken in the middle of summer — that's basically poisoning them lol.
It's just illegal dumping.
This is probably returned bread from a delivery order.
I used to work that kind of job — if a batch came out too hard, the whole run had to be rebaked.
Returned loaves got sold to employees for ¥100 each, but a good chunk of it still ended up thrown away.
I used to work that kind of job — if a batch came out too hard, the whole run had to be rebaked.
Returned loaves got sold to employees for ¥100 each, but a good chunk of it still ended up thrown away.
>>20
These days if you post "please help" on social media, freeloaders would swarm and it'd be gone in no time.
These days if you post "please help" on social media, freeloaders would swarm and it'd be gone in no time.
Could it be a foreign tourist staying at a minpaku (private home-stay rental) dumping leftover food before flying home?
>>21
There's no demand for minpaku rentals in Tottori.
There's no demand for minpaku rentals in Tottori.
If it were an individual they'd be arrested in a heartbeat, but with a company this kind of thing just gets quietly overlooked.
Given the quantity, it's got to be a company.
Given the quantity, it's got to be a company.
>>28
A company could offload it through livestock farmers, so this is probably beneath that — an individual.
Oversized loaves of bread are a specialty item, so it should be easy to trace.
Pair that with the chicken liver and you can narrow it down further.
Near Mt. Daisen in Tottori, the only nearby city is Yonago, plus the Genghis Khan (grilled mutton) restaurants up on Mt. Hiruzen.
A company could offload it through livestock farmers, so this is probably beneath that — an individual.
Oversized loaves of bread are a specialty item, so it should be easy to trace.
Pair that with the chicken liver and you can narrow it down further.
Near Mt. Daisen in Tottori, the only nearby city is Yonago, plus the Genghis Khan (grilled mutton) restaurants up on Mt. Hiruzen.
Fine, maybe the bread is just leftover stock from an order mistake being tossed out — but what's with the chicken liver?
>>66
A bakery might well have liver pâté lying around.
A bakery might well have liver pâté lying around.
Over on Yahoo comments, which are full of dubious claims, there were a few comments from self-proclaimed bread artisans or bakery workers speculating it might be practice bread — for some kind of certification exam? — made with expired flour and then dumped.
But if the chicken liver is part of the same set, that theory doesn't hold up as well.
But if the chicken liver is part of the same set, that theory doesn't hold up as well.
>>90
I could buy that if it were just tossed and abandoned, but it was placed at even intervals, deliberately out in the open — so that theory doesn't fly.
I could buy that if it were just tossed and abandoned, but it was placed at even intervals, deliberately out in the open — so that theory doesn't fly.
There's got to be a security camera around there somewhere.
Hurry up and give them the death penalty.
Hurry up and give them the death penalty.
>>102 Wouldn't there be an N-System (automatic license-plate reader) nearby or something?
A local TV station actually brought the bread back to the studio to film it.
Zooming in on what looks like moldy bread and broadcasting it into people's living rooms — that's some tone-deaf reporting.
Zooming in on what looks like moldy bread and broadcasting it into people's living rooms — that's some tone-deaf reporting.
>>107
Wait, it had mold on it?
Fuji TV's morning show "Mezamashi" described it as "baked up nice and fluffy" lol.
Wait, it had mold on it?
Fuji TV's morning show "Mezamashi" described it as "baked up nice and fluffy" lol.
Rich people who've lost the plot never do anything good.
>>114
If anything, they're probably just cheaping out on proper waste disposal costs.
The chicken liver's probably an ingredient for some kind of sandwich pâté too.
If anything, they're probably just cheaping out on proper waste disposal costs.
The chicken liver's probably an ingredient for some kind of sandwich pâté too.
>>54
Bears are carrion eaters, so they'll eat it even somewhat rotten.
Bears are carrion eaters, so they'll eat it even somewhat rotten.
>>124
True enough.
Plenty of bears seem to prefer rotten meat,
so this really does look like deliberate, intentional feeding by a person.
True enough.
Plenty of bears seem to prefer rotten meat,
so this really does look like deliberate, intentional feeding by a person.
This might not be feeding at all — could be the same crowd that puts out poisoned bait for animals.
Somebody should run a toxicology test on it.
Somebody should run a toxicology test on it.
>>131
Could it actually be for extermination purposes?
Could it actually be for extermination purposes?
This probably isn't the only spot.
I won't say it's everywhere, but I'd bet quite a few people are scattering bait like this in various places.
I won't say it's everywhere, but I'd bet quite a few people are scattering bait like this in various places.
>>145
It's just too strange that bears would suddenly start showing up near people, simultaneously, in so many places, over just the past few years — that can't be coincidence,
not unless deliberate feeding like this is going on.
It's just too strange that bears would suddenly start showing up near people, simultaneously, in so many places, over just the past few years — that can't be coincidence,
not unless deliberate feeding like this is going on.
There was a comment noting how similar this is to overseas baiting-style hunting:
> In Maine, USA, bear hunters start setting out bait in August, and the method here — leaving out huge amounts of bread for days, then adding strong-smelling liver later — is oddly similar.
Though even in the places where it's practiced legitimately, there are rules: keep it away from roads, post signage, get the landowner's permission, etc.
So maybe it really is bait after all.
> In Maine, USA, bear hunters start setting out bait in August, and the method here — leaving out huge amounts of bread for days, then adding strong-smelling liver later — is oddly similar.
Though even in the places where it's practiced legitimately, there are rules: keep it away from roads, post signage, get the landowner's permission, etc.
So maybe it really is bait after all.
>>184
You can't shoot a bear once you've lured it somewhere with people nearby, so…
it does seem to be based on the logic of luring them in, apparently.
You can't shoot a bear once you've lured it somewhere with people nearby, so…
it does seem to be based on the logic of luring them in, apparently.
>>184
It's not just similar — it's literally the same thing.
It's not just similar — it's literally the same thing.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Tottori] Bread and Chicken Liver Illegally Dumped Day After Day Inside Mt. Daisen National Park… About 40kg Over Five Days… Bear Sightings Reported in the Area… Risk of Leading to Feeding Behavior.”
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