Hiroyuki Pushes Back on ‘Showa Had More Kids’ Claim — 5ch Fires Back: ‘That Era Is Exactly Why We’re Struggling Now’

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Entrepreneur Hiroyuki (Hiroyuki Nishimura) posted his views on the declining birthrate on X on October 31. He argued that “people who flatly declare countermeasures for the falling birthrate impossible are dodging the real debate over whether it should be overcome,” citing the fact that the Showa era had many children as evidence. The post drew 40 responses on 5ch’s “Geinou/Sports News+” board, where opinions split over whether the Showa-era baby boom was truly the result of policy, or simply a product of different social structures — like arranged marriages and women’s lack of economic independence. Plenty of commenters also argued that countermeasures themselves are pointless, pointing to the effectiveness of cash handouts and the way AI is reshaping labor demand.

Hiroyuki pushes back against people who flatly declare birthrate countermeasures “impossible” — “Showa had an era with plenty of kids, you know”

Entrepreneur Hiroyuki Nishimura (Hiroyuki), 49, updated his X (formerly Twitter) account on the 31st, laying out his views on measures to combat the declining birthrate.

Hiroyuki posted: “A lot of people talking about birthrate countermeasures are just describing the current situation while dodging the real question of whether it should be overcome. There was an era in Showa Japan when there were plenty of kids, yet people just look at today and flatly declare it impossible.”

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:48
Some things just can't be fixed, no matter what you do
6AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:52
Isn't that era with all the kids exactly why we're struggling now?
It's what threw the balance between generations out of whack.
Suddenly cranking births back up now would just throw it even further off balance.
22AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:03
Re: #6 That would just create a 21st-century baby-boomer generation.
9AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:53
Even 10 million yen [per child] wouldn't fix it, guaranteed.
It'd just create other problems.
Saying birthrate countermeasures are impossible isn't necessarily wrong.
If it ever does get solved, it won't be thanks to any policy — it'll just happen naturally.
10AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:53
It's the result of respecting human rights too much.

There's no going back now, so it's hopeless.
11AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:54
10 million yen per kid — I'm all for that too.
12AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:55
Pretty much TV's fault.
For starters, it hyped up romance and looking attractive to the opposite sex so much that it raised the bar too high.
13AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:57
It's not simple enough to pin down to one cause.
People aren't marrying or having kids even without one clear main reason, which makes it hard to fix.
If the problem were obvious, it would've been solved long ago.
Even if Hiroyuki thinks it's a money problem, there's no telling if that's actually true.
14AnonymousNov 1, 2026 01:57
The Showa baby boom happened because soldiers came home from war needing an outlet for their pent-up urges.
Looks like another war might be brewing soon too, so maybe a postwar baby boom isn't far off. Whether Japan as a country will still be around by then is another question.
15AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:01
Low birthrate, labor shortages… he's also one of the people who helped cause it, with that giant forum of his. (A jab at Hiroyuki as the founder of 2channel/5ch, often blamed for fueling shut-in/NEET culture.)
16AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:02
Handing out cash is child-rearing support, but it's not a birthrate countermeasure.
Giving money to families who only have the time and energy to raise one kid, or families who are happy with just one, isn't going to increase the numbers.
17AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:02
Even countries with generous support have seen their birthrates fall across the board.
They should be studying Israel closely — its birthrate is close to 3.
18AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:02
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24AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:04
Women's rights have improved, after all.
There's no turning back to Showa now.
27AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:05
Just turn child-rearing into a salaried job.
Make it actually profitable instead of just a subsidy.
The state wants more workers, right?
28AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:05
There's no need to pay attention to what this guy says anymore, is there?
Come on.
32AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:07
About 30% of people are in a position where it's economically impossible.
That group staying unmarried is what's really driving today's low birthrate.
Above-average earners aren't having fewer kids.
33AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:07
Parents get 10 million yen, but the kid has to contribute 10 million yen's worth back to the country.
I wonder if people realize that's basically saddling the kid with a debt from birth.
37AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:09
Back in the Showa era, there weren't really any special countermeasures — the population just grew on its own.
If anything, they were trying to slow it down.
The truth is, this country has zero track record of birthrate countermeasures actually working.
38AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:10
In the Showa era, women couldn't support themselves alone, and the arranged-marriage system forced people into marriage.
Sure, there were lots of kids, but then there was a huge wave of late-life divorces — forcing people to marry really isn't the answer.
39AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:10
In the Showa era,
people weren't having kids because of government policy.
41AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:11
All that money the government splashes around just ends up getting paid back later through tax hikes on the very kids it was meant to help, once they grow up.
44AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:13
■Story
Welfare Minister Jozaburo Niiki is pushing a postwar policy to curb population growth.
But just then, his wife gets pregnant — kicking off a string of "good news" surprises involving his sons, daughters, and even his own father.
On top of that, rumors surface that Jozaburo himself has a secret child, throwing the whole Niiki family into chaos.
Set around a family championing the population issue, one unexpected uproar after another unfolds…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0_goJFAfKI
48AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:16
Voice, appearance, music, art — all of it.
What's needed now is AI, and humans are becoming unnecessary.
We're heading into an age where most people, desk workers included, won't be needed.
It'd be weirder if the birthrate *didn't* fall in times like these.
49AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:16
Countermeasures aren't even needed in the first place — humans are going to become unnecessary going forward anyway, so it'd just be a waste of resources.
58AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:24
Back then there wasn't much entertainment, so making and raising kids was basically the only form of entertainment.
That's why having ten siblings wasn't even unusual.

In today's world overflowing with entertainment, it's hopeless.
The only way to fix it now would be a meteor strike or a war that burns everything to ash.
60AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:25
Re: #58
Not having a pension system was a big factor too.
67AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:35
Re: #58
Poor, undereducated families with lots of kids have always been dysfunctional in all sorts of ways — it was just misery reproducing itself.
64AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:31
Back in the day, being single past 30 or 40 got you treated like a weirdo.
65AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:32
Prioritizing things like oshi-katsu (actively supporting your favorite idol or character) or your own hobbies brings more personal happiness, after all.
69AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:37
Re: #65
Young people do have money.
It's not that they can't afford it —
they're just pouring that money into this instead.
68AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:36
AI managing human production.
That kind of era is coming soon.
74AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:40
Re: #68
AI taking over is a fantasy.
It needs enormous amounts of electricity and energy — where exactly is that supposed to come from?
70AnonymousNov 1, 2026 02:38
Violate women's rights and semi-force them to have kids, and that'd basically solve it — but is that really okay?

Background and Key Points of This Debate

A point raised repeatedly in the thread was that it’s a mistake to view the high birthrate of the Showa era as “the result of population policy.” In reality, the backdrop was differences in social structure — forced arranged marriages, women’s lack of economic independence, and the absence of entertainment options or a pension system — rather than the state actively pursuing policies to boost births. In fact, there was even a period after the war when population control was discussed out of concern over overpopulation, and commenters cited a satirical film/drama depicting the policies of that era. Opinions split between those who see the main cause of the low birthrate as “lack of economic room” and those who see it as “diversifying values and entertainment options” — the two sides simply started from different premises about what should be addressed. Rather than debating Hiroyuki’s “don’t jump to conclusions” remark itself, the discussion’s center of gravity shifted toward comparing just how different social conditions are between the Showa era and today.</parameter>

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