How Do You Read ‘東雲’? 5ch: “I Learned It Riding the Tokyo City Bus”

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A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board asked where people first learned to read the kanji “東雲” (Shinonome), and the answers came in all over the map — station names, place names, horse-race names, manga and anime character names. Some picked it up from real-world names like Shinonome Station in Tokyo’s Koto Ward or the horse race “Shinonome Sho,” while others knew it from the final boss’s name in Custom Robo or a KAN album. Since it’s a reading you’d basically never run into in daily life, the scattered answers ended up revealing what places and media each person happens to be into.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:47
City kids from Tokyo probably get it from the station name, but how do people from the countryside learn it?
3AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:49
There's one in Osaka too
4AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:49
Some character or other
6AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:51
Feel like I saw it in a manga somewhere
7AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:51
The heroine of Eiken, the raunchy manga that ran in Champion magazine
8AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:52
Super Autobacs (the car parts/accessories chain)
9AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:53
The nice thing about Ookami (this board's nickname) is that Nichijou doesn't come up
27AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:23
Re: #9
Me, I'm from Nichijou
11AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:56
Shinonome Sho — a horse race name
12AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:57
That Rinkai Line station nobody seems to actually use
Shinonome Station
16AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:59
Re: #12
There used to be an Up-Front recording studio there
13AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:57
Patlabor
15AnonymousOct 29, 2026 07:58
There's a facility called "Shinonome no Sato" (roughly, "Shinonome Village"), and I looked up what it meant
18AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:03
I know "Kochi" (東風) from a horse race name
19AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:04
My uncle used to live near Shinonome Junior High School
21AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:14
Wasn't that "Mei's Butler"? Or something?
22AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:19
Yeah, it's Nichijou after all
23AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:20
Feel like Kobe might have a similarly named place… or maybe not
25AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:22
I learned about Shinonome in Koto Ward from riding the city bus
35AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:41
Opened this thinking it'd be a thread about Shinonome Umi, packed with all your dreams and ideals
38AnonymousOct 29, 2026 08:52
Never read it before.
Guess otaku would know it?
40AnonymousOct 29, 2026 09:04
The final boss in Custom Robo was named Shinonome, that's how I learned it
42AnonymousOct 29, 2026 09:13
On the Chuo Line,
Shiotsu (四方津) and Yanagawa (梁川) are station names I can't read either

No idea how that turns into "Shiotsu" or "Yanagawa"
55AnonymousOct 29, 2026 10:59
Re: #42
If you can already read "梁," there's no trick to Yanagawa at all.
It got famous thanks to a former idol and a politician too
44AnonymousOct 29, 2026 09:33
KAN's album
57AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:06
Re: #44
Oh, is this because of where the recording studio was located?
Re: #16
49AnonymousOct 29, 2026 09:56
"Shinonome Rōjo no Ran" (roughly, "Revolt of the Shinonome Courtesans"), a racy Toei movie
52AnonymousOct 29, 2026 10:21
While hunting for the Autobacs branch with the best car audio setup,
I ended up landing on the Shinonome store
53AnonymousOct 29, 2026 10:24
The one from the Kokin Wakashū: "Shinonome no hogara-hogara to akeyukeba…"
Also the "Strike Bushi" folk song
58AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:19
I think I learned Uzumasa, Adatara, and Shinonome from Central JRA horse race names
59AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:22
Wasn't Shinonome the first place Takui lived after moving to Tokyo to become a singer right out of junior high?
I remember hearing a song he wrote about that time
60AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:23
I learned "Kochi" (東風) and "Toki" (朱鷺) from horse race names too
62AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:29
The gravure idol who builds Gunpla (Gundam model kits)
64AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:38
Feel like I knew it even before Shinonome Umi
66AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:43
Feel like this was the name of the idol girl who gets scolded by Reina
68AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:48
I mixed it up and remembered it as "Kochi" (東風)
"東" sure has a lot of weird readings
69AnonymousOct 29, 2026 11:48
The Aeon in Shinonome used to be known as one of the bigger ones in Tokyo
Though by rural standards it's small

Background and Talking Points on This Topic

“東雲” (Shinonome) is a jukujikun — a special reading assigned to a whole word rather than a standard kun’yomi or on’yomi — and it’s one of those readings school kanji lessons simply skip. The same place name turns up all over Japan, including Koto Ward in Tokyo and Osaka, and the characters also show up in horse-race names and the proper names of idols, manga, and anime — which is exactly why this thread’s answers were all over the place. People cited everything from station and place names, to the horse race “Shinonome Sho,” to manga and anime character names, and there’s no real disagreement in the thread — what makes the exchange interesting is simply how differently each person ran into the same two characters, depending on where they live and what they’re into. It suggests that place-name jukujikun like this tend to get learned not through school, but through proper nouns encountered in everyday life.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “東雲 (Shinonome) — What made you able to read this kanji?.”

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