Does athletic ability stop mattering the moment you become a working adult? 5ch: ‘Muscle training makes up for it’

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The story

A thread titled “Athletic ability — its value drops the moment you become a working adult” popped up on one of 5ch’s live-commentary boards and drew a wave of responses. Many posters argued that while skill at ball sports and quick reflexes tend to be the yardstick during school years, once you enter the workforce what actually gets valued is stamina, the kind of thing muscle training builds, along with decision-making and communication skills. Others pushed back, pointing out that being athletic overlaps with being quick to judge situations and good at working in groups, so it’s not entirely irrelevant to job hunting or performance reviews — and the debate expanded into a similar standoff over how academic ability should be regarded.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:02
Guess it's because there's no P.E. class at the office, huh?
4AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:03
Kinda surprised college even had P.E. classes
7AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:04
Re: #4
I didn't take it
22AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:10
Re: #7
Mandatory for me
6AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:03
What you need is stamina
so being good at basketball or soccer stops mattering
10AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:05
Re: #6
It's actually pretty useful for jobs that require quick judgment and knowing how to work efficiently
Guys who are good at team sports tend to be good at their jobs too
9AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:05
Come to think of it, are there women doing matchmaking/marriage-hunting who specifically want an athletic guy?
15AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:07
Re: #9
If that's a thing, I'd want to specify it myself
11AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:05
Even if you sucked at sports in school, you can make up for it with muscle training once you're an adult
12AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:06
Re: #11
Working adults, it's all just running and muscle training anyway
14AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:07
Muscle training doesn't actually improve your athletic ability though
You build endurance, but that feels different from the stamina you need for work
24AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:11
Re: #14
Your reading comprehension is weak
Nobody said you do muscle training to improve athletic ability — the point is athletic ability becomes unnecessary, and muscle training, which affects your looks and health, is what gets valued instead as a working adult

So even if you were slow at running or useless at ball sports back in school, you can make up for it as an adult with muscle training
91AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:50
Re: #14
What muscle training builds is self-esteem and better eating habits
Also self-discipline and stress management, I guess
93AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:53
Re: #14
I heard this on TV somewhere, maybe that NHK show Gatten or something, can't remember, but elderly people need quick reflexes, not just endurance
Like when you're about to trip, you need to be able to instantly catch yourself with your foot
So apparently for middle-aged and older folks, if you're going to do muscle training, start slow and finish with an all-out, quick burst
18AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:09
I'm completely hopeless at ball sports
Can't even do a backward pull-up on the bars either
But I'm a middle-aged guy who made it big investing (an "okuriabito" — someone whose assets hit 100 million yen)
What a world we live in
100AnonymousOct 28, 2026 21:05
Re: #18
I'm decent at ball sports across the board
But I'm broke
28AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:14
Same goes for studying as for sports — once you're out in the working world, you don't use it at all
Memorization skills are seriously almost useless in actual work
30AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:16
Re: #28
What matters from studying is the habit it builds
When you hit something you don't understand, you properly look it up
And you internalize it until you can explain it to someone else
32AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:16
Re: #28
Mathematical thinking and social studies knowledge do get used though

And to be clear, I mean mathematical thinking, not exam-style math
29AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:16
Re: #24
Muscles built from muscle training seriously don't help with work at all
Processing speed and working memory — abilities built through sports — are still more necessary than that
38AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:18
Re: #29
You don't use muscles or athletic ability at work, right?
That's exactly why I'm saying muscle training alone is enough to catch up in the end
35AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:17
Is there anyone out there who's athletic but bad at their job?
40AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:19
Re: #35
Plenty of them, actually?
39AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:19
Re: #30
Nah, that's a sophistry
Once you're out in the working world, academic ability matters about as much as being good at futsal
Dead serious
46AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:20
Re: #39
Nah, that's a sophistry lol
47AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:22
The required skill set shifts: athletic ability → academic ability → social skills
Once you become a working adult, social skills are everything, and you barely use academic ability or athletic ability anymore
49AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:23
Re: #47
"Social skills" refers to the qualities and abilities needed to interact with others and function smoothly within a group or society. It's not just about getting along with people — it means the ability to live cooperatively, following rules and considering others' feelings.
48AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:22
Being athletic or not basically comes down to stuff like whether you can set or receive a volleyball properly
Yeah, not really a skill the average working adult needs
52AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:25
Re: #48
Quick decision-making, learning by watching — there's actually a lot of overlap between being athletic and the abilities required at work
53AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:25
If anything, academic ability is just a ticket to get your educational credentials, and once you debut as a working adult it ends up being about as useful as your futsal or karaoke skills
Dead serious
As a working adult, like 90% of what you use is communication skills and raw intelligence that has nothing to do with studying
55AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:27
Re: #53
The type of working adult who goes around saying "academic ability is unnecessary!"
Probably doesn't have much of a job to show for it
54AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:26
Athletic people tend to have racked up more experience by that point, so their social skills tend to develop more easily too — which is why athletic people tend to get hired more easily
64AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:29
Re: #54
It's a classic job-hunting cliché too
Like, "In high school I was on the basketball team! We made it to the regional tournament, and thanks to the bond with my teammates I even served as captain, so I'm confident in my ability to lead a team!" — that kind of thing
77AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:37
Still, without at least a baseline you'll end up tripping and breaking a bone or something
80AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:39
Re: #77
Right, right
Even my great-grandpa broke a bone
89AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:48
Re: #77
That's not athletic ability — that's a muscle strength and bone density issue
87AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:46
Re: #70
Being good at driving and being athletic are two different things
No matter how good a driver you are, you can't stop a big truck from rear-ending you
90AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:49
Re: #87
Isn't driving basically mostly athletic ability though?
Spatial awareness, sense of speed, dynamic visual acuity, efficiently allocating attention, concentration, stamina
94AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:53
Re: #90
What people normally mean by "good at driving" is almost entirely technique and experience
No matter how athletic you are, if you personally lack the technique you'll still be bad at it
Now, if we're talking about the level of winning races, sure, athletic ability matters too
95AnonymousOct 28, 2026 20:55
Re: #94
Put that way, yeah, true

Background and Key Points of the Debate

Throughout the thread, the term “athletic ability” was left ambiguous — never pinned down as coordination, stamina, muscular strength, or decision-making — leading to several moments where posters talked past each other. The point that muscle training doesn’t actually improve “athletic ability” itself (post 14) and the point that muscle training has become the thing valued in place of athletic ability (post 24) are addressing entirely different questions, and the back-and-forth over driving skill (posts 87, 90, 94) likewise mixes talk of technique and experience with talk of physical traits like spatial awareness and dynamic visual acuity. The handling of mandatory college P.E. also varies by school, which is reflected in the early exchange where one poster says it was “mandatory” and another says they “didn’t take it.” The claim that academic ability is unnecessary also drew pushback along the lines of “sounds like someone without much of a job” — worth noting that the thread as a whole never actually converged on the idea that either athletic ability or academic ability is “unnecessary for working adults.”

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “Athletic ability — it instantly becomes a low-value trait the moment you become a working adult.”

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