Hotarubara Tōru Admits on TV He Was Treated as the ‘Other Guy’ During His Duo Days

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On the September 21 broadcast of TV Asahi’s “Mimi no Ana Kappojitte Kike!”, comedian Tōru Hotarubara appeared on the “Poison Out Notebook” segment and spoke candidly about how he was treated by staff back when he was one half of the comedy duo Ame Agari Kesshitai. After his remark — “Even toward the ‘other guy’ comedian in a duo, staff should treat both partners equally, from greetings to meetings” — turned into a news article, a 5ch thread lit up with a mix of sympathetic takes (“he’d never have made it without Miyasako”) and blunt jabs at Hotarubara’s own talent and looks, with commenters also citing other comedians — like Higashi Bukuro and Iwai from the duo Harai Ichi — who’ve faced similar ‘other guy’ treatment.

Tue, 9/22, 4:14 PM

Comedian Tōru Hotarubara appeared on TV Asahi’s “Mimi no Ana Kappojitte Kike!” (Mondays, 1:55 AM) on the 21st, looking back on how he was treated by staff during his duo days.

That episode featured the segment “Poison Out Notebook.” Framing it as an “honest message to staff,” Hotarubara let it out: “Even toward the ‘other guy’ comedian in a duo, staff should treat both partners equally — greetings, meetings, all of it.”

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:39
Surprised to learn he actually had quite an edge to him when he was young.
119AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:33
Re: #10
Miyasako was funny and good at running the show, so he got way more credit — Hotarubara couldn't cut it as a straight comedian, so he leaned into being the 'short-fuse' character instead.
14AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:40
Honestly, this guy and Yabe (from the duo Nainai) — I just see them both as guys who got lucky.
125AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:35
Re: #14
Yabe's reaction shots — the little cutaway 'wipe' inserts — are the funny part.
There's an 'Okazile' bit (Okamura joining EXILE), and a version without Yabe's wipe reactions exists on an EXILE live DVD, but without him it's just 'oh, Okamura's a good dancer' — not funny at all.
15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:40
Well, obviously.
If Miyasako hadn't been around, Hotarubara never would've made it big.
19AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:42
Re: #15
And yet he's still surviving even after the duo broke up — that's actually impressive.
16AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:40
The fact that he never got pushed forward even when his partner screwed up tells you exactly what his ceiling is.
17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:42
Can't be helped if it was during Miyasako's peak years.
Same deal with Westland — no point talking to Kawamoto either.
20AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:42
Well, duh.
Hotarubara still doesn't have any work outside of Ametalk, does he.
38AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:50
Re: #20
He's MCing some mystery show on Fuji TV, but honestly anyone could handle that gig — doesn't have to be Hotarubara.
24AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:44
I don't like Miyasako, but yeah, that part can't be helped.
27AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:45
About 20 years ago he said, dead serious: 'I don't need to say anything funny — as long as I've got a partner, I won't be out of work.' That's the level of comedian he is.
28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:45
Same with Ryo from London Boots — seems pointless to even have a meeting with him once you've got Jun locked in.
And Hotto-chan (Hotarubara) too — back in the duo days he'd just toss out a punchline whenever he got fed a line, so no meeting needed with him either.
29AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:45
If Miyasako hadn't fallen from grace, he'd still be the 'not that one' guy even now.
30AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:45
Over this, Higashi Bukuro went and announced on his own YouTube that he was 'quitting the show.' His manager didn't even step in to mediate, just said flatly, 'You can't, it brings in revenue.' So he reluctantly showed up, and by the very next taping the show had shifted into an Higashi-Bukuro-centered setup — like coaxing a fussy kid to calm down.
33AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:47
Well, during their peak it really was 'Miyasako's duo,' so that's just how it goes.
35AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:48
Re: #19
Probably because he's with Yoshimoto, has a long career and name recognition, and reads the room well enough to stay safe in conversation — that's likely where the demand comes from.
Kind of the same slot as Ariyoshi or Takeyama.
Whether that still counts as being a comedian whose actual job is making people laugh is questionable, though.
Maybe these days he's more of a script-dependent TV talent than a comedian.
127AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:38
Re: #35
The ones who survive are the Nakayama Hidemasa type.
Ariyoshi reinvented himself into that same Nakayama Hidemasa mold too, and Imada Kōji and Kunimasa were already saying 'Hide-chan is amazing' back when Downtown was trashing Nakayama Hidemasa.
36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:49
Hotto-chan (Hotarubara) doesn't really shine unless someone's ribbing him.
Miyasako was always all about himself, so the chemistry was off from the start.
37AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:50
It was Hotarubara who'd chat with the staff in the green room, while Miyasako just sat there reading manga the whole time, all gloomy — that's probably why things are the way they are now, right?
39AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:51
Even Sanma — back when he first came up to Tokyo — has said TV stations would deliberately call him 'Iwashi-kun' ('Sardine Boy'), and he clawed his way up from there.
41AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:51
Regular people only knew Miyasako's name too — it was basically the same treatment as the guy who's just 'attached to' Jun from London Boots.
93AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:18
Re: #41
Ryo's role is being the good-looking one.
55AnonymousSep 22, 2026 17:59
This is probably from the 'One Night R&R' days — that show ended up revolving around Miyasako, Gussan, and Gori, so each of their partners must've had a rough time being treated as the 'other guy.'
But according to Miyasako, Gori's drag character Gorie blew up so huge that eventually everyone except Gori became the 'other guy.'
63AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:03
Re: #55
Kind of ironic that you barely see any of the three on TV much anymore.
67AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:04
Re: #55
Fuji TV tends to pull that kind of stunt.
It was a Fuji show that literally CG'd out Iwai from Harai Ichi too.
90AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:18
You've got to treat even not-yet-famous comedians with a baseline of respect.
Plenty of them blow up big later, and it comes back around on you.
Someone like Ariyoshi probably still holds a grudge against the staff who treated him carelessly back in the day (lol)
100AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:23
Re: #90
From back when he was worked to the bone on late-night shows —
he probably doesn't have warm feelings for the comedians who were more successful than him at the time,
like Fukawa, say.
105AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:26
Even back in middle school there were girls like that — coming over to a close pair of guy friends, chatting happily with just one of them, completely blanking the other without even a glance, then walking off.
110AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:30
Re: #105
That's probably a girl who wasn't popular with guys herself.
Girls who are popular with guys have the social skill to stay friendly and actually talk to the other one too, even if they're only interested in one of them.
112AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:31
Re: #105
Ignoring one of two good-looking guys is no big deal, but if the one who gets ignored happens to be the unattractive one, it turns into a whole thing.
107AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:28
Hotarubara and Tamori have really similar comedic timing, huh.
137AnonymousSep 22, 2026 18:43
Re: #107
Strip away the underground material and Tamori's not really different from Hotarubara.

These days he's hard at work bribing his way into the afterlife, so to speak, pretending the past never happened.
He buried the affair scandal too.

Background and Key Points

Ame Agari Kesshitai was a manzai duo made up of Tōru Hotarubara and Hiroyuki Miyasako, which effectively disbanded in 2019 following Miyasako’s undisclosed-fee scandal. Hotarubara’s latest comments illustrate that so-called ‘other guy’ treatment — where staff belittle one half of a duo while favoring the other — is hardly unique to his case. On the thread, many argued it was simply unavoidable that Miyasako drew more attention given his popularity at the time, while opinions split over how to judge Hotarubara’s own talent and looks. Commenters also raised similar cases — Higashi Bukuro, Iwai from Harai Ichi, and even Sanma’s early struggling years — suggesting this isn’t limited to one particular duo but a deep-rooted custom across the industry. It’s worth noting, though, that Hotarubara’s comments were specifically about how ‘staff’ treated him — a distinct issue from any difference in fan support, a nuance that’s easy to overlook.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Tōru Hotarubara Reveals Past ‘Other Guy’ Treatment From Staff: ‘They Never Once Even Looked My Way…’ / ‘Only Greeted Miyasako’.”

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