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Juice=Juice’s new song “BLOODY BULLET” Dance Shot Ver. racked up 140,000 views shortly after release, becoming a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Since around August 27, 2026, YouTube is said to have changed its view-count criteria from “counts as one view after 30 seconds of playback” to “counts as one view the instant the video is opened,” and many posters pointed to this spec change as a factor behind the surge. While the thread buzzed with view-count comparisons against other groups like ANGERME and BEYOOOOONDS, some voiced suspicion that the rapid growth was “staged,” sparking a cross-group fan feud.
Does a Dance Shot video really rack up views like this?
Source: youtu.be / Original article here
What people said
ANGERME pulls in 500K views on day one.
Compared to that, this is pretty low.
Juice → 1.6M views
ANGERME → 330K views
Well, given their dance skills, that's about right.
At this rate BEYOOOOONDS would probably out-pace Juice too.
Even with YouTube's view-counting changed, this is still low lololol
Exactly this.
Under the current counting method, ANGERME would easily clear 1 million on day one.
Numbers like this can be fudged any which way.
What matters most is how many people you actually turn out.
Now that it's confirmed they're losing to other groups (especially BEYOOOOONDS right now), the Juice fans are already making excuses lol
Since 8/27, a YouTube rule change made it easier for view counts to climb.
The counting standard changed from 'one view after 30 seconds of playback' to 'one view the moment it's opened.'
220K views, 28K likes, 4,208 comments
Yeah, it changed before that.
Juice=Juice hasn't put out a single live video or MV since the change though.
But yeah, it's definitely not racking up views like an MV or live video would, so don't get so worked up, haters lol
but part of Juice's breakout was thanks to their flattering, well-shot MVs doing well in rotation,
so I think it's fair to care about the YouTube numbers too.
So the copy-pasted 'Oyaki' view-count numbers (a fan nickname) are worthless now — what are you gonna do about that?
As expected from the flagship group.
Juice ('Shiru,' a fan nickname) is in tears lolololololololol
Juice's numbers are rigged, so their stats are the least trustworthy of all.
So what IS trustworthy, then?
ANGERME's slump is the most trustworthy thing there is.
Juice's surge is nothing but an illusion.
Taisei's really dropping the ball, huh.
I mean, they should have something special in reserve,
and apparently he's the one going around to various events saying 'I'm the producer.'
That's exactly why you lost to Juice.
Hey AKB grandpa, explain.
I woke up this morning and a video nobody watches had somehow racked up 140,000 views.
Honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes at first.
I thought I was still half-asleep.
So this is what happens when you've got an agency backing you, huh.
Guess they get to work after everyone's gone to sleep.
At this point the numbers might as well be meaningless.
Juice's numbers are rigged, so their stats are the least trustworthy of all.
So what IS trustworthy, then?
Background and Key Points of the Debate
YouTube reportedly changed its view-count methodology around August 27, 2026, switching to a system that counts a view the instant a video is opened. Previously, a view was only counted after at least 30 seconds of playback, meaning videos posted after the change may see view counts climb faster for the same amount of actual viewing. The thread was full of sarcastic remarks like “so this is what happens when you’ve got an agency backing you,” along with view-count comparisons against other groups, but no official information has confirmed whether the sudden surge stems from deliberate inflation or simply the counting-method change — it remains speculation confined to an anonymous message board. It’s also worth noting that Hello! Project runs multiple groups under the same management, a structure that frequently invites comparisons of view counts and dance-video plays as a yardstick for popularity between groups.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “I woke up this morning and Juice=Juice’s ‘BLOODY BULLET’ Dance Shot Ver. had somehow racked up 140,000 views.”
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