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The story
The current concurrent viewer counts (“dōsetsu”) of VTubers who left Hololive to go independent are drawing attention online. In a thread, users cited examples such as Yuuki Sakuna (formerly Minato Aqua) and Amami Luca (formerly Sakamata Chloe), pointing out the sharp drop in concurrent viewers after going solo. Many argue that while affiliated with the agency, these streamers benefited from “whole-group” fans and social media buzz, so it’s only natural the numbers shrink once only genuine individual fans remain. Some have concluded that “in the end, it was the agency’s power all along.”
What people said
Minato Aqua → Yuuki Sakuna
Sakamata Chloe → Amami Luca
Kind of sad for someone who was once the most-subscribed VTuber in the world.
And of those, maybe 5-10% leave comments.
That's roughly how it feels to me.
Plus no more wasting time on dance practice.
Oh, piggy actually thinks it's really them doing the dancing?
The others are solid too, for independent talents.
While affiliated, even the whole-group fans watch, and it generates buzz on social media and elsewhere.
Once independent, only the fans attached to that individual remain, so naturally the numbers drop.
Such a heartless bunch, honestly.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
The drop in concurrent viewers seen among VTubers who go independent appears to stem largely from a structural factor: while affiliated with an agency, streamers benefit from whole-group fans (“hako-oshi,” those who support the whole group) and social media exposure, but once independent, only genuine individual fans remain. As pointed out in the thread, this is a phenomenon common to VTubers leaving any agency, not just Hololive, and doesn’t necessarily reflect a decline in the streamer’s own ability. On the other hand, the judgment that “VTuber fans are heartless” is really just an impression drawn from the single, narrow metric of concurrent viewer count — publicly available information alone can’t verify how many fans actually left or how revenue has changed. It’s also easy to overlook that concurrent viewers simply measures simultaneous audience size, a different metric from subscriber counts or earnings, so calling fans “heartless” based solely on that one number’s drop may be premature.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread “[Images] The Current Concurrent Viewer Counts of Former Hololive Members Who Went Independent Are Dire… Turns Out VTuber Fans Are Heartless.”
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