Manager Roberts Analyzes Ohtani’s Condition — 5ch: “The Two-Way Duality of Good Shohei and Bad Shohei”

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The story

After the game on the 5th (6th Japan time), Dodgers manager Dave Roberts offered his view that Shohei Ohtani’s “personality changes depending on whether he’s feeling good or bad physically.” On 5ch, the comment sparked mixed reactions — some joked about a “Good Ohtani” and “Bad Ohtani” two-way duality, others defended him with “that’s true of anyone,” while others pointed to his past behavior and took a harsher view, saying “his true colors are just showing.”

<Dodgers vs. Nationals> ◇ 5th (6th Japan time) ◇ Dodger Stadium

Dodgers manager Dave Roberts (54) gave his assessment that pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32) has recovered quite well from his current condition.

[Photo] The “angry…” look on Ohtani’s face after being cautioned by manager Roberts

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

4AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:54
Well, you see a person's true self when things aren't going well, right?
5AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
If Ohtani weren't playing, the Dodgers' ratings on satellite TV would be an absolute disaster.
13AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:58
Re: #5
Your Japanese is worse.
6AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
The two-way flow of Good Shohei and Bad Shohei
7AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
Like the old "when you've got your 551 / when you don't" bit? (a classic Japanese comedy routine about 551 Horai pork buns)
8AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
Every human's like that lol
42AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:01
Re: #8
It's not "everyone" — that's exactly why the manager brought it up.
111AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
Re: #8
Re: #19
Iniesta was treated like a saint too, but he'd completely lose it whenever things weren't going well in the J.League.
A person's true nature shows precisely when things aren't going well.
9AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
When he got criticized for getting caught stealing, he stubbornly kept stealing out of spite — once he stops performing well, I bet more "bad personality" stories will keep surfacing.
10AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:56
You're only noticing this now?
11AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:56
That's basically dissing him for being two-faced lol
14AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:58
Jeter once looked back on Matsui's Yankees days and said, "That guy never changed no matter the situation or condition."
18AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:58
His good personality was never really his selling point to begin with.
44AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:02
Re: #18
Back when he was still in Japan talking about his "I'll show them" challenger spirit in interviews, he had this ambitious look on his face.
His true personality is probably that of a competitive, elite-minded person — and that type exists everywhere.
62AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:05
Re: #18
The media ran a whole campaign about him picking up trash and being considerate to opposing players, remember?
198AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:26
Re: #18
He used to get treated like a bratty kid who teased his senpai.
19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:58
Re: #1
Wait, isn't that true for literally everyone?
41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:01
Ippei: "In Saint Seiya terms, he's like Gemini Saga after he became the Pope."
Kurumada (the manga's creator): "…You've only just begun climbing."
Ippei: "…up this endlessly long slope of debt repayment." (a joke riffing on Ippei Mizuhara, Ohtani's former interpreter, and his gambling debt repayment, framed as Saint Seiya manga dialogue)
65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:05
Re: #41
The same embezzlement won't work twice on a Saint 🙄

Pegasus Illusion → 4.6 billion yen (a parody of Saint Seiya's iconic special-move names, referencing Ippei Mizuhara's roughly ¥4.6 billion embezzlement)
49AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:03
That's just how humans are.
People make a fuss about it because they treat a mere athlete like some kind of saint.
61AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:05
Re: #49
Because if you write even a slightly negative article, you get banned on the spot — and so does the outlet itself.
84AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:08
Re: #49
There's the opposite pattern too.
When someone whose life had been going well hits a rough patch,
they start understanding other people's pain, become kinder,
and learn to be considerate.
Either way, humans are fundamentally selfish, self-centered creatures.
67AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:06
Something that's puzzled me for a while —
there's no reason athletes have to be saints,
yet I can never figure out why they get treated like one.
The baseball guys at my school were nothing but troublemakers, in the bad sense.
109AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
Re: #67
That goes for sports clubs in general, not just baseball.
They're a bunch of guys with energy to burn
who can't stand not being the center of attention —
of course there's going to be some roughness and selfishness.
81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:08
A dog's ability to sense things…
Dekopin… (Dekopin is the name of Ohtani's dog)
137AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:16
Re: #81
Wait, what —
weren't things going well with his dog?
90AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:09
Roberts said he was doing batting practice the entire game.
This guy's insane.
105AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
Re: #90
Even telling him to rest is useless.
114AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
I mean, doesn't everyone's personality change when they're not feeling well?
119AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:13
Re: #114
I don't think my personality changes… am I just special?

Background and Points of Debate

Manager Roberts’ comment came amid Ohtani’s ongoing return to two-way (pitching and hitting) game action, and appears to mean that his focus and demeanor tend to shift when he’s not feeling well physically. The thread split over whether to read this as “a natural human reaction anyone would have” or as “a backlash against expecting athletes to be saints.” Ohtani’s public image has historically been built on wholesome anecdotes like picking up trash and showing consideration for opposing players, and as a counter-reaction to that, some posts linked this comment to the idea that “the mask has finally slipped.” However, some of these posts were based on unsourced hearsay or references to footage that couldn’t be verified, and it’s worth noting that the original article is simply about Roberts commenting on the degree of Ohtani’s physical recovery. Some also argued that the controversy over his emotional ups and downs says less about Ohtani’s personal character than about the media and public’s tendency to project an overly saintly image onto athletes — a perspective that can’t be gleaned from the original article alone, and is unique to the thread’s discussion.

*This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “Manager Roberts: “Shohei’s personality changes when he’s feeling good vs. bad” — analyzing Ohtani’s condition“.

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