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The story
A thread that began with a post comparing the domestic (Japan) concurrent viewer counts for Nintendo Direct and Sony’s State of Play. Commenters cited specific figures showing that State of Play’s (“SOP”) concurrent viewers dropped sharply from June to September — from 850,000 to 230,000 in the US and 210,000 to 34,000 in Europe — while Japan’s numbers actually grew, from 67,000 to 107,000. Some suggested this was due to Japan-specific special broadcasts. The discussion eventually escalated into a comparison war over worldwide cumulative sales of the Switch 2 and PS5 (roughly 22.55 million Switch 2 units vs. 17.09 million PS5 units at the 14-month mark) and the operating profit trends of Nintendo and Sony, turning into a prolonged back-and-forth between the same two posters, both liberally sprinkling their replies with “www” (Japanese internet shorthand for laughter, like “lol”).
What people said
[SOP] State of Play concurrent viewers (June → September): US 850K→230K, Europe 210K→34K, Japan 67K→107K
Well yeah, that's because the Japanese version aired at a time slot aimed at Japan. Still, the drop overseas is way too big.
Seems like they're all gathering at Japan's airport now.
They said they'd run a special program aimed at Japan back-to-back, and all that got them was a 33K increase — that's actually a pretty bad result if you ask me.
Even the Japanese-language DE (Deluxe/Definitive Edition) alone probably sold more than 33K more copies than last time.
I just found out there's a demo for it…
Well, most PS users these days are basically only playing free stuff like gacha games and PS Plus freebies (free monthly games) anyway.
Sure, there are fewer active users, but… can you even enjoy a State of Play as a video?
Saying you enjoy watching State of Play is such an "airpu" thing to say (slang for talking like you've experienced something you actually haven't).
Exactly this. It's honestly impressive how every single game they show gives off the same exact vibe.
OK, let's compare worldwide then.
At the 14-month mark:
Switch 2: approx. 22.55 million units
PS5: approx. 17.09 million units
Switch 2 leads by about 5.46 million units.
Huh? lol
https://itest.5ch.io/krsw/test/read.cgi/ghard/1788490660
The last one had 100K concurrent viewers.
Is that good enough for you?
Nintendo losing to Sony in earnings every single year, that's worrying, lol.
Is that good enough for you? lol
Well, it's already settled with Nintendo's defeat, since they're struggling overseas too, lol. It shows up in the earnings numbers too, lol.
Struggling overseas and only managing a measly 5.46 million unit lead over the PS5…
Nintendo, leading in units but still losing in earnings, lol. Isn't the Switch 2 just losing money with every unit sold? lol. Sounds like they're considering another price hike too, lol.
In terms of sales, Nintendo isn't even in the same league — total scrub, lol. The reason Nintendo's profit looks high is because it includes high-margin revenue from the Pokémon Center, USJ (Universal Studios Japan), and the Mario movie. If you counted game-only numbers, wouldn't Nintendo lose on profit too? lol
Yeah totally, and SIE (Sony Interactive Entertainment) also has movie profits baked in from Gran Turismo and that "fade-to-black, BOOM" movie (a sarcastic jab mocking overly dramatic movie trailers) — but sure, it's Nintendo that's being unfair~
So, does Sony have anything equivalent to the Pokémon Center or USJ revenue? lol
Source on the movie profits being included? Movies would fall under the movie division, wouldn't they?
Actually, it's outperforming the PS5's years 1 through 4 in profit, but sure, so worrying.
Sony Game & Network Services — Operating profit
FY 2020/3 → ¥238.4B
FY 2021/3 → ¥342.2B (PS5 Year 1)
FY 2022/3 → ¥346.1B
FY 2023/3 → ¥250.0B
FY 2024/3 → ¥290.2B
FY 2025/3 → ¥414.8B
FY 2026/3 → ¥463.3B
FY 2027/3 → ¥610.0B (full-year forecast)
Nintendo — Operating profit
FY 2026/3 → ¥360.1B (Switch 2 Year 1)
FY 2027/3 → ¥370.0B (full-year forecast)
But Nintendo loses on sales every single year, lol. Huh? What's this now? lol
Yeah, really worrying that they're losing on sales — though I guess it's fine since they're winning on profit.
[Sad News] PlayStation's official pop-up store opens at Kyoto Station for a limited time, but becomes a topic for having way too few customers!!
http://hiro155.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-18869.html
Sony can't even get customers when they open a store, yet somehow Nintendo's the unfair one!!
Didn't know that happened, lol. But Nintendo still gets crushed on sales every year, lol. Last year Nintendo made news for hitting ¥2 trillion in sales for the first time ever, but Sony's pulling in like ¥4 trillion — hilarious, lol.
The Switch 2 is way too expensive too, so Japanese people aren't buying it either, lol. Go check out the "in stock" tags for the Switch 2 lined up at electronics stores, lol.
Worrying that Japanese people have stopped buying it~
Scalpers, lol
Background and Key Points
Nintendo Direct and State of Play are the regular game-news livestreams put out by Nintendo and Sony respectively, and concurrent viewer counts are frequently used on the Console War board (“Geha”) as a yardstick for gauging viewer excitement. That said, it’s worth noting that concurrent viewers don’t necessarily correlate with active user numbers or sales performance — as some posters in the thread pointed out, it may simply reflect a larger audience watching purely as entertainment. Later in the thread, the comparison shifted to unit sales and operating profit, including a claim that Nintendo’s profit figures include revenue from the Pokémon Center, USJ (Universal Studios Japan), and its movie business — but no source was provided to verify this, so it remains an unverified claim from an anonymous message board. The prolonged back-and-forth between the same two posters is also a fairly typical sight on the Geha board.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Nintendo Direct ‘Domestic concurrent viewers 800K-1M’ vs. State of Play ‘Domestic concurrent viewers 80K-100K’ — look at this.”
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