Tamura Meimi: “I Couldn’t Believe Karin Failed the S/mileage Gen 2 Audition” — 5ch: “Saho Riho and Miyamoto Karin Were on Another Level for Their Generation”

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The story

Former S/mileage member Tamura Meimi’s tweet recalling, “I couldn’t believe Karin failed the S/mileage 2nd generation audition,” was introduced on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread discussed anecdotes of harsh coaching during the training-camp evaluations, behind-the-scenes selection stories about Miyamoto Karin (who later became the center of Juice=Juice), and how their generation — Tamura, Saho Riho, and Miyamoto Karin — was rated.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:23
・Whenever the two of them talked, it always turned into a serious conversation — that's how it had always been; at 16 they were seriously discussing their futures.
・From Tamura's perspective, Saho and Miyamoto were on a different level within their generation.
・Even at the ANGERME 2nd gen audition training camp, Miyamoto looked like she was on another level — she couldn't believe Miyamoto failed (at the time nobody knew Miyamoto was actually being held back to later become Juice=Juice's center).
2AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:25
Tamura Meimi
@Tamura_Meimi
My next setback was probably at age 12. During the training-camp evaluation for the S/mileage audition, I couldn't keep a 16-beat rhythm, and my vocal teacher told me, "Tamura, get out!" I wasn't even a member yet, and I was filled with embarrassment thinking, "Is this footage of me getting yelled at really going to air on national TV?!"
I'm probably haunted by the number 16.
3AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:26
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dic8r5JV4AA3jRf.jpg

Teacher: "To fire up the room, I deliberately went off on Tamura — the one who was actually best at it."
11AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:37
Re: #3
That's an unreasonable scolding.
This is clearly something you shouldn't do.
17AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:45
Re: #3
Laughing while saying this makes me question that teacher's mental health.
76AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:59
Re: #3
I still can't accept that Nakanishi got in because of this.
Unforgivable — that garbage agency did something awful to Karin-chan.
4AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:27
Re: #1
It's entirely Tsunku♂'s fault that Chan-san got rejected.
If you're going to resent someone, resent Tsunku♂ and no one else.
44AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:18
Re: #4
Oh really? My bad.
62AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:45
Re: #4
It's the chairman who does the choosing.
7AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:33
Same with gen 12 — everyone assumed "Asakura will pass," so this kind of thing happens all the time.
8AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:35
Anyone who makes it to the final selection generally has enough talent.
From that point on, it's just a question of whether they fit what's needed.
14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:43
There's no way they'd put an ace into a group like S/mileage.
15AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:44
Re: #11
In the entertainment world, that's a common technique used to tighten up the room.
21AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:47
https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tankony/imgs/0/1/01ac42df.jpg
36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:12
Terada's assessment






38AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:14
Even Bakuwara has tears in her eyes


Murota


Take-ashi ("Bamboo Legs")
Milk-chan goofing around
The Egg Trio
Yamaga-san crying
Yukanya crying too
Milk-chan's stare
Kosuga-san, already so thin she looks like she'll snap
Oda-Milk
Bakuwara Hotel
(Smug face)
Bakuwara already making this face
Oden-chan goofing around
Meanwhile Yuukarin
This person, who had probably already decided to quit
40AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:14
9-member S/mileage



"An artist who can compete on the world stage"
"Japan's number one idol"
"Making it to Hollywood"
"I want to work hard so people take lots of cute photos of me"
"I'll do my best to make use of my Kansai dialect instead of getting pulled into standard Japanese"
41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:15
Summary
http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/m/michinao/20110716/20110716142701.jpg
42AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:16
Fujii Rio confesses that during that legendary S/mileage 2nd gen audition training camp, she raided Nakanishi Kana's bedroom: "Can I sleep with you?! (dead serious)" [Unauthorized reposting prohibited] (c)2ch.net
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1484961460/1

⊂((Third time's the charm! (lol) Fujii Rio))⊃
http://ameblo.jp/kobushi-factory/entry-12239858213.html
With ANGERME's Nakanishi Kana-san and Hirose Ayaka!
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20170120/14/kobushi-factory/8a/be/j/o0480036013849723828.jpg

It's slowly cracking me up (lol)
Nakanishi-san is hilarious lol lol
Come to think of it, I played the "10 times game" (a confession/dare game) with Nakanishi-san recently too (lol)
Back during the S/mileage additional-member audition too, we practiced together, and even though we had different rooms,
"Can I sleep with you?!"
— I went and asked her that (lol)
48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:25
It's kind of ironic that Karin-chan, who loves goofing around, ended up as the center of the cool, serious Juice=Juice.
Apparently in the early days, even using dialect was banned in Juice=Juice.
66AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:48
Re: #48
Yeah, and they took her pink color away too.
51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:32
The Bakuwara Generation

Saho Riho
Suzuki Kanon
Oda Sakura
Ogata Haruna
Katsuta Rina
Tamura Meimi
Murota Mizuki
Aikawa Maho
Miyamoto Karin
Uemura Akari
Fujii Rio
Yamagishi Riko
Ichioka Reina
Yokokawa Yui
Horie Kizuki
Kokata Risa
Takase Kurumi

"Bakuwara" is the nickname of ANGERME's Katsuta Rina (aka "Rinapu~"). It originally came from youth slang, "bakushou = bakuwara" ("hilarious laughter"), and Rinapu~ herself used it with that original meaning in her blog posts — but somewhere along the way it turned into her own personal nickname instead.
65AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:47
Re: #51
A generation full of nothing but problem children lol
77AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:00
Re: #51
They used to call it the golden generation, but
looking back at it now, it wasn't anything special lol
69AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:53
During the regional shows of the 6-member S/mileage 'Chotto Kawaii Bancho' ("Slightly Cute Boss") tour, they ran a bizarre promotion where handshake tickets with backup dancers Miyamoto and Tanabe were thrown in as a bonus for buying a Morning Musume. single.
74AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:59
Re: #69
Juice=Juice's version was even more brutal — stacking on handshakes with trainees.
88AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:08
Didn't know much about it at the time, but I guess Saho and Miyamoto really were on another level, just like "Met" said.
Even though they're both way past their prime now.
92AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:09
Re: #88
Well, this is a story from 15 years ago.
Makes you wonder whether today's active members will even be remembered in 15 years.
95AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:11
Re: #88
Their popularity crashed hard, you know.
It's over for them now.
93AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:10
When the Juice=Juice member announcement happened, Tanabe's name never got called, and she just kept crying in the back the whole time.
It was pitiful enough to practically call it a real public execution.
110AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:14
Re: #93
Both the ones who got picked and the ones who didn't were all crying.
A video that cruel shouldn't even be allowed to exist.
102AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:13
Up-Front Group kept making mistake after mistake — it took 25 straight years of nothing but failures before Juice=Juice finally became a hit.
104AnonymousAug 23, 2026 10:13
Re: #102
So many mistakes it's actually funny lol

Background and Key Points

For readers unfamiliar with Hello! Project: S/mileage (now ANGERME) is one of several Hello! Project idol groups produced by Tsunku♂, and its members are chosen through televised, multi-stage audition training camps where vocal coaches evaluate hopefuls in front of cameras. Tamura Meimi, Saho Riho, and Miyamoto Karin all auditioned in the group’s “2nd generation” cohort around 2011; Miyamoto did not make the cut for S/mileage at the time, while Nakanishi Kana did. Miyamoto later resurfaced as the center of Juice=Juice, a separate Hello! Project unit, which is why her original rejection reads as startling in hindsight — a “failed” idol audition in this system doesn’t end a career so much as redirect it to another group.

The thread’s actual disagreement isn’t over Miyamoto’s talent — posters agree she and Saho were clearly ahead of their peers — but over who to blame for her rejection: some point at producer Tsunku♂ as the sole decision-maker, others shift blame to the agency or the audition process itself, and a side debate breaks out over whether the harsh on-camera scolding was legitimate coaching or manufactured drama for the broadcast.

What the thread doesn’t spell out is that the coach’s own comment (“I deliberately went off on the one who was actually best, to fire up the room”) describes a known reality-TV technique — staged conflict for footage — which complicates any reading of the audition as a straightforward talent ranking. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese idol audition shows may take the on-camera drama at face value rather than as edited television.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Emotional] Tamura Meimi: “I Couldn’t Believe Karin Failed the S/mileage Gen 2 Audition” / “Saho Riho and Miyamoto Karin Were on Another Level for Their Generation”.”

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