Tamura Meimi: “I Couldn’t Believe Karin Failed the S/mileage Gen 2 Audition” — 5ch: “Saho Riho and Miyamoto Karin Were on Another Level for Their Generation”

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Former S/mileage member Tamura Meimi’s tweet recalling, “I couldn’t believe Karin failed the S/mileage 2nd generation audition,” was introduced on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread discussed anecdotes of harsh coaching during the training-camp evaluations, behind-the-scenes selection stories about Miyamoto Karin (who later became the center of Juice=Juice), and how their generation — Tamura, Saho Riho, and Miyamoto Karin — was rated.

1Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:23:45.81
・Whenever the two of them talked, it always turned into a serious conversation — that's how it had always been; at 16 they were seriously discussing their futures.
・From Tamura's perspective, Saho and Miyamoto were on a different level within their generation.
・Even at the ANGERME 2nd gen audition training camp, Miyamoto looked like she was on another level — she couldn't believe Miyamoto failed (at the time nobody knew Miyamoto was actually being held back to later become Juice=Juice's center).
2Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:25:38.26
Tamura Meimi
@Tamura_Meimi
My next setback was probably at age 12. During the training-camp evaluation for the S/mileage audition, I couldn't keep a 16-beat rhythm, and my vocal teacher told me, "Tamura, get out!" I wasn't even a member yet, and I was filled with embarrassment thinking, "Is this footage of me getting yelled at really going to air on national TV?!"
I'm probably haunted by the number 16.
3Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:26:58.74
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dic8r5JV4AA3jRf.jpg

Teacher: "To fire up the room, I deliberately went off on Tamura — the one who was actually best at it."
11Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:37:56.21
>>3
That's an unreasonable scolding.
This is clearly something you shouldn't do.
17Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:45:34.25
>>3
Laughing while saying this makes me question that teacher's mental health.
76Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:59:37.69
>>3
I still can't accept that Nakanishi got in because of this.
Unforgivable — that garbage agency did something awful to Karin-chan.
4Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:27:57.83
>>1
It's entirely Tsunku♂'s fault that Chan-san got rejected.
If you're going to resent someone, resent Tsunku♂ and no one else.
44Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:18:01.68
>>4
Oh really? My bad.
62Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:45:23.39
>>4
It's the chairman who does the choosing.
7Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:33:39.38
Same with gen 12 — everyone assumed "Asakura will pass," so this kind of thing happens all the time.
8Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:35:36.20
Anyone who makes it to the final selection generally has enough talent.
From that point on, it's just a question of whether they fit what's needed.
14Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:43:42.19
There's no way they'd put an ace into a group like S/mileage.
15Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:44:36.02
>>11
In the entertainment world, that's a common technique used to tighten up the room.
21Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 08:47:36.70
https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tankony/imgs/0/1/01ac42df.jpg
36Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:12:11.72
Terada's assessment






38Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:14:15.99
Even Bakuwara has tears in her eyes


Murota


Take-ashi ("Bamboo Legs")
Milk-chan goofing around
The Egg Trio
Yamaga-san crying
Yukanya crying too
Milk-chan's stare
Kosuga-san, already so thin she looks like she'll snap
Oda-Milk
Bakuwara Hotel
(Smug face)
Bakuwara already making this face
Oden-chan goofing around
Meanwhile Yuukarin
This person, who had probably already decided to quit
40Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:14:57.83
9-member S/mileage



"An artist who can compete on the world stage"
"Japan's number one idol"
"Making it to Hollywood"
"I want to work hard so people take lots of cute photos of me"
"I'll do my best to make use of my Kansai dialect instead of getting pulled into standard Japanese"
41Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:15:30.21
Summary
http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/m/michinao/20110716/20110716142701.jpg
42Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:16:12.57
Fujii Rio confesses that during that legendary S/mileage 2nd gen audition training camp, she raided Nakanishi Kana's bedroom: "Can I sleep with you?! (dead serious)" [Unauthorized reposting prohibited] (c)2ch.net
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1484961460/1

⊂((Third time's the charm! (lol) Fujii Rio))⊃
http://ameblo.jp/kobushi-factory/entry-12239858213.html
With ANGERME's Nakanishi Kana-san and Hirose Ayaka!
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20170120/14/kobushi-factory/8a/be/j/o0480036013849723828.jpg

It's slowly cracking me up (lol)
Nakanishi-san is hilarious lol lol
Come to think of it, I played the "10 times game" (a confession/dare game) with Nakanishi-san recently too (lol)
Back during the S/mileage additional-member audition too, we practiced together, and even though we had different rooms,
"Can I sleep with you?!"
— I went and asked her that (lol)
48Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:25:54.65
It's kind of ironic that Karin-chan, who loves goofing around, ended up as the center of the cool, serious Juice=Juice.
Apparently in the early days, even using dialect was banned in Juice=Juice.
66Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:48:35.63
>>48
Yeah, and they took her pink color away too.
51Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:32:03.57
The Bakuwara Generation

Saho Riho
Suzuki Kanon
Oda Sakura
Ogata Haruna
Katsuta Rina
Tamura Meimi
Murota Mizuki
Aikawa Maho
Miyamoto Karin
Uemura Akari
Fujii Rio
Yamagishi Riko
Ichioka Reina
Yokokawa Yui
Horie Kizuki
Kokata Risa
Takase Kurumi

"Bakuwara" is the nickname of ANGERME's Katsuta Rina (aka "Rinapu~"). It originally came from youth slang, "bakushou = bakuwara" ("hilarious laughter"), and Rinapu~ herself used it with that original meaning in her blog posts — but somewhere along the way it turned into her own personal nickname instead.
65Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:47:59.78
>>51
A generation full of nothing but problem children lol
77Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:00:33.30
>>51
They used to call it the golden generation, but
looking back at it now, it wasn't anything special lol
69Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:53:08.21
During the regional shows of the 6-member S/mileage 'Chotto Kawaii Bancho' ("Slightly Cute Boss") tour, they ran a bizarre promotion where handshake tickets with backup dancers Miyamoto and Tanabe were thrown in as a bonus for buying a Morning Musume. single.
74Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 09:59:22.25
>>69
Juice=Juice's version was even more brutal — stacking on handshakes with trainees.
88Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:08:38.78
Didn't know much about it at the time, but I guess Saho and Miyamoto really were on another level, just like "Met" said.
Even though they're both way past their prime now.
92Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:09:51.85
>>88
Well, this is a story from 15 years ago.
Makes you wonder whether today's active members will even be remembered in 15 years.
95Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:11:26.10
>>88
Their popularity crashed hard, you know.
It's over for them now.
93Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:10:09.86
When the Juice=Juice member announcement happened, Tanabe's name never got called, and she just kept crying in the back the whole time.
It was pitiful enough to practically call it a real public execution.
110Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:14:49.14
>>93
Both the ones who got picked and the ones who didn't were all crying.
A video that cruel shouldn't even be allowed to exist.
102Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:13:12.64
Up-Front Group kept making mistake after mistake — it took 25 straight years of nothing but failures before Juice=Juice finally became a hit.
104Anonymous2026/08/23(日) 10:13:47.53
>>102
So many mistakes it's actually funny lol

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Emotional] Tamura Meimi: “I Couldn’t Believe Karin Failed the S/mileage Gen 2 Audition” / “Saho Riho and Miyamoto Karin Were on Another Level for Their Generation”.”

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