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A discussion about housing conditions kicked off on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board over the manga Doraemon’s setup that Nobita Nobi owns a detached house in Tokyo’s Nerima Ward. Pointed observations about the family’s lack of a car and the property’s road access spiraled into a “winners vs. losers” debate with the Nohara family from Crayon Shin-chan, who live in Saitama Prefecture. The thread got even livelier when hard data got thrown in — Nerima’s historical population density and rankings of farmland area across Tokyo’s 23 wards — as posters mixed the manga’s setting with real-world real estate facts.
What people said
They could just build one.
the Noharas do.
Well, the Noharas are Saitama losers, so.
Tokyo is where people from the countryside come to earn a living, you know.
Getting pushed out of the countryside and
coming to Tokyo to earn a living—
that's what Tokyo is, you know.
Saitama's the real winner here—
detached house, owns a car.
Isn't Nerima the losing side though?
must be a serious inferiority complex.
If you owned land in Setagaya, you wouldn't be saying "ugh, in the red again this month~"
He's getting dragged, but Dora-kasu (a derisive nickname for Doraemon) actually has a point.
Re: #19
Losers who couldn't make it out to Tokyo, lol.
the boonies on the outer edge of the 23 wards.
1950 2,663
1960 6,501
1970 11,233
1980 12,003
1990 12,846
2000 13,666
2010 14,870
2020 15,653
2026 15,876
way bigger lot than Nobita's place, and it's even got a pond.
1. Nerima Ward (approx. 21,761a / 217.6ha) — accounts for roughly 40% of all farmland across the 23 wards
2. Setagaya Ward (approx. 10,317a / 103.2ha)
3. Katsushika Ward (approx. 8,506a / 85.1ha)
4. Edogawa Ward (approx. 7,835a / 78.4ha) — Tokyo's top ward for komatsuna (Japanese mustard spinach) harvest
5. Adachi Ward (approx. 6,459a / 64.6ha)
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Governor Koike and the metropolitan government
are putting their effort into developing the waterfront area—
the west side is outdated.
are putting their effort into developing the waterfront area.
Governor Koike and the metropolitan government
are putting their effort into developing the waterfront area—
the west side is just a sea of outdated houses.
that's about the population density of present-day Hachioji.
though for some reason people assume it's owned.
Background and key points of this topic
Nerima Ward actually has the largest farmland area of any of Tokyo’s 23 wards, accounting for roughly 40% of the total — and as posters in the thread pointed out, contrary to the opening premise of a “detached house in central Tokyo,” the ward’s population density back in 1969, when the series began, was on par with present-day Hachioji. Meanwhile, the theory that “Nobita’s house is actually a rental” is a popular fan rumor, but since the original manga never explicitly depicts the ownership arrangement, it can’t be confirmed either way. And the Saitama-vs-Tokyo “winners and losers” debate is less a genuine comparison of assets than one of 5ch’s recurring regional-rivalry templates, best read as separate from any objective real estate assessment.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Nobita Nobi: “I have a detached house with a yard in Tokyo’s Nerima Ward” — this guy“.
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