QR Code Ordering at Izakayas Leaves Man in His 50s Baffled: “Since When Is This the Customer’s Job?”

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The story

A FORZA STYLE article recounting one man in his 50s’ bewildered experience with QR code and LINE ordering at an izakaya (Japanese pub) — he wondered aloud, “Is this actually the customer’s job?” — sparked a wave of reactions on a 5channel (5ch) News Speed+ thread. The real sticking point wasn’t the ordering system itself, but resistance to LINE Official Account setups that require “adding the store as a friend” before you can even see the menu. While some praised QR ordering as “convenient” and said it “cuts down on order mistakes,” others pushed back with complaints like “I don’t want to friend a place I’ll only visit once” and “don’t make customers pay for the data,” splitting the thread between those who valued convenience and those who resented the hassle.

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“I hate QR code ordering…” Fed up with smartphone ordering at izakayas, a man in his 50s baffled by digitization let slip: “Is this seriously the customer’s job?” [Expert advice]

Source: forzastyle.com / Original article here

What people said

10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:38
It's nice being easier to order, but… guess some people just have a device allergy?
230AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:12
Re: #10
If it's from a tablet the store provides, that's fine — I just don't want to register on LINE for a place I'm only visiting once.
17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:40
Nah, this is a convenient system. What's wrong with it?
25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:41
Re: #17
People are losing it over having to cover a fraction of a yen in data charges.
66AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:47
Re: #17
Actually read the article.

> It wasn't the browser-based ordering type — you had to add the store's LINE Official Account as a friend before you could even reach the menu screen.

Even I'd hate that.
26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:41
No way a guy in his 50s would say that. If anything, that generation's lived through every digital shift and adapts better than anyone.
33AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:43
Re: #26
Depends a lot on the individual.
34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:43
Re: #26
If you check the source, his point was: "Some places make LINE registration mandatory, and that's just wrong — things are heading in the wrong direction."
35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:43
QR ordering means fewer mistakes and you know the bill in advance — it's convenient. The upsides outweigh the downsides, so what's there to complain about?
45AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:44
Re: #35
Just give me my data charges back.
70AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:47
Honestly, just let me pay from that same screen. Making me order by QR code but only accepting cash? Give me a break. I'm never going back to a place like that.
83AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:49
Re: #70
Fair point. If LINE registration is mandatory, they should at least accept PayPay (a popular Japanese mobile payment app).
73AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:48
I wouldn't mind if it were a device the store provided, but I don't want to use my own phone lol
125AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:55
Re: #73
On the flip side, I don't want to touch a device that who-knows-who's been handling right before I eat.
77AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:48
Ah, yeah, if you're forced to add them as a friend, that's rough. Which big chains actually do this, though?
92AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:50
Re: #77
Major chains basically never do this — they run their own in-house ordering/payment systems. It's independent, mom-and-pop places that use the LINE registration system, since it's cheap to set up.
95AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:50
The store's take: "If you can't handle it and find it a hassle, please don't bother coming."
100AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:51
Re: #95
Don't worry, I won't be going.
101AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:51
Re: #95
Well, it goes both ways, so I guess there's no problem lol
127AnonymousSep 24, 2026 06:56
Might as well just ban anyone over 50 from entering.
167AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:02
Re: #127
There used to be places that banned anyone who wasn't young. No idea if they're still around.
210AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:09
Just go to a fancier restaurant.
224AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:12
Re: #210
I see. Guess that's just the era Japan's in now.
234AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:13
Re: #210
Even izakayas running about 10,000 yen a head sometimes use QR ordering (´・ω・`)
225AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:12
Making customers use their own phones is bad enough as it is — that tiny screen makes it hard to see the whole menu, and it's just irritating.
235AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:13
Re: #225
Right there with you. Even at 50, I love Sushiro's big tablet screens.
237AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:14
Re: #225
Older folks can't see small text, after all.
255AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:17
If you don't like it, just don't go to places like that. Go somewhere upscale and they'll come take your order in person.
268AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:20
Re: #255
Then post the ordering method in big letters outside the store — and the payment method too, ideally.
274AnonymousSep 24, 2026 07:20
Re: #255
If they'd just post the ordering method at the entrance, I could avoid those places.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

The backdrop here is that independently owned restaurants often adopt LINE Official Account ordering systems because it lets them avoid the cost of building a dedicated app or POS system. Unlike browser-based QR ordering that works on its own, requiring customers to “add as a friend” on LINE keeps setup costs down for the store, but tends to create friction for customers — the hassle of registering and unease over handing over personal information. The thread’s split reactions come down to the fact that QR ordering itself and the LINE-registration-required operating model are really two separate issues; it was the latter the man in the original article was questioning. Conflating the two makes it look like a simple generational story about “older people who can’t keep up with digitization,” but the complaints actually center on paying for one’s own data usage and the hassle of registering — reactions that could come from any age group.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread ““I hate QR code ordering…” Fed up with smartphone ordering at izakayas. A man in his 50s baffled by digitization… “Is this the customer’s job?””.

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