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On 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo (Live News) board, a thread went up asking users to nominate “content where amateurs act self-important in the comments.” Building on two examples already floated — golf and fried rice — posters were asked for a third, and suggestions poured in ranging from baseball sabermetrics debates to shogi, DIY, orchestral music, and traffic-rule-themed dashcam videos. For fried rice, objections piled up against the “fluffy-grain supremacy” and “pan-tossing worship” mindsets, while for golf, posters shared stories of being lectured in lesson videos or suddenly approached with unsolicited advice at the driving range. In the end, no single third answer was settled on, and opinions were split even on why certain hobbies attract so many “want-to-teach” types in the first place.
What people said
There are just so many people who love to lecture you.
Same — someone suddenly struck up a conversation with me at the driving range the other day.
Aww, poor you 🥺
It's not really about being arrogant, is it?
There are just way too many people making obviously soggy fried rice and looking smug about it.
Someone was trashing a restaurant's fried rice just because "a cute girl made it," so I called them out.
People need to stop mistaking rice that's just dried out for properly "fluffy" (para-para).
Also worth adding — on a home gas stove you don't even have enough heat to need to toss the pan, yet there's this "pan-tossing supremacy" mindset anyway.
It's wild how amateurs go "well sabermetrics says…" and casually trash pro coaching and in-game strategy.
So you're saying we shouldn't criticize managers who overuse bunts when sabermetrics has clearly shown they're pointless?
It's gotten awful ever since people started running engine analysis on games.
They're quick to call every misstep a "blunder" now.
From an amateur's perspective, just hitting the ball forward is impressive enough.
There's that saying that advice from anyone below a certain handicap just causes confusion — maybe that's what's going on.
There are tons of guys smugly lecturing on women pros' videos like "that's just an arm swing, not a real one."
Re: #56
Yeah, I can kind of see it with car-related stuff.
Seriously, how does that even happen?
I always warn anyone who looks like they're not taking it seriously.
Your clubface is way too open.
You should probably practice with half-shots first.
If it just curved, fine, but flying off in a totally wrong direction the instant you hit it means your swing path or clubface angle is clearly off.
Time to rework your address and backswing.
The club gives you back exactly what you put into it.
OP wins big, lol.
tell us your average score.
And your best round, plus which course.
I don't mind talking golf, so I'd say my average is around 145.
Let me think where my best round was…
There was a course out around Ogawa-machi in Saitama where scores tend to run high, I think.
It was around 135, if I recall.
I broke 100 by a little at Kawana last year.
I played an instrument for a few years despite being bad at it, and my ears were in agony, lol.
Swarms of pro carpenters incoming.
There really are carpenters doing it professionally all over Japan.
If you do it for a living, you've earned the right to call yourself a pro.
Well, there are a lot of old geezers here.
Background and Key Points of This Topic
The “Big Three ___” format is a classic 5ch thread-starter: give two examples and ask readers to supply the third. This time the chosen pair — golf and fried rice — stood out because both are hobbies/dishes that seem low-barrier enough for anyone to try. Commenters largely agreed with defenses like “even just hitting the ball forward is impressive to an amateur” and “it looks easy but is actually incredibly hard,” converging on the view that skills which are easy to judge visually (a golf score, or how separated the rice grains are) tend to invite armchair criticism from amateurs. Baseball and shogi, by contrast, were flagged as a different case — the rise of new evaluation frameworks like sabermetrics and AI game analysis has reshaped their traditional criticism culture, making them a different context from golf and fried rice. Worth noting, since the headline alone could mislead: the thread never actually settled on one “correct” third answer — multiple candidates were simply raised side by side.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Urgently Wanted] The Big Three Things Where Amateurs Act Like Experts in the Comments: “Golf” and “Fried Rice”.”
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