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The story
Businessman Hiroyuki Nishimura (49), on his own YouTube channel, was asked by a viewer to “do a debate show with a bunch of amateurs,” and flatly shot the idea down: “It’s boring, and there are few people who can actually talk.” On 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board, his comment sparked a wave of discussion citing real debate and talk shows like Serious Teens’ Talk Room, Abema Prime, and Asa made Nama TV as examples. While some argued that amateur participants tend to just sit there like furniture, many others pointed out the reality that these shows are often “scripted first,” with writers and editors shaping things beforehand — making the production structure of debate shows itself the main topic of discussion.
Businessman Hiroyuki Nishimura (49) updated his YouTube channel by the 18th, sharing his personal take on why there are no debate shows featuring amateurs.
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A viewer left a comment saying, “I’d like to see the Hiroyuki Channel do a debate show with a bunch of amateurs,” but Hiroyuki cut it down flatly: “Why do you think shows like that don’t happen? It’s because they’re boring, and there are few people who can actually talk.”
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
What people said
Isn't that show edited though?
Some episodes felt live, but there's probably a fair amount of pre-arranged discussion with the writers beforehand, right?
Otherwise you'd get someone blurting out words that are banned from broadcast.
YouTube is basically an operative-training system.
see no evil, say no evil, hear no evil.
Dumb debate shows are the bottom of the barrel.
You'd get it if you watched that "Asa made whatever" show lol
And it was just a plain interview, mind you.
That's literally Hiroyuki lol
An expert in what, exactly? lol
Even the announcers are hosting while reading off cue cards.
There just aren't many people who have it.
People who can't read the room are no good.
People with no heart in it are no good either.
a few amateurs join every episode, but they're basically furniture —
they don't say anything interesting and are pretty much useless.
Even if you cram a ton of amateurs into a debate show, I don't think there's any upside for the producers or the MC lol
I saw a clip from Ariyoshi's radio show where he said guys from the Yoshimoto talent agency basically only toss the ball to their own Yoshimoto buddies, so even a fellow comedian from a different agency can end up barely getting to talk for hours.
That's supposedly why Yamasaki said he had no choice but to go in and stir things up on the London Boots show, looking back on it.
That show worked because Kevin, who attacked in every direction, would stir things up behind the scenes and get everyone heated, and then once things got too chaotic, the entertaining Zomahoun would step in and shut it down — that pattern was great!
When you think about it that way, announcer Hiraishi really is excellent.
Though he does go off the rails sometimes.
Welcome to 5channel.
Tahara's whole thing is:
"Tell me more about that!"
"What do you mean by that?!"
"You're wrong about that! Completely wrong!"
And if he's not interested, he just completely ignores you and goes,
"What do you think?"
Tahara riles everyone up and then gets heated himself, so it turns into a shouting match, not a debate.
Who even taught people to open with "thank you first"? Some manners instructor?
That's a line Yamamoto Taro uses a lot.
Though at his own party-dissolution press conference, his true colors seemed to show and he talked in a really careless, throwaway tone.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
How much scripting or editing goes into a debate show varies from program to program, and production teams rarely say so outright. Even amateur-participation and debate-style shows like Serious Teens’ Talk Room and Asa made Nama TV, despite their near-live format, are widely believed by viewers to involve pre-arranged discussions and editing behind the scenes, and comments in the thread speculating about that reality stood out. Hiroyuki’s remark that “few people can actually talk” is simply his own personal opinion stated on his YouTube channel, not a verified account of what goes on behind the scenes in production. The thread’s debate split between those who blame amateur participants themselves for lacking speaking skills, and those who point to the structure of the shows — the network choosing who gets the mic, limited speaking time — as the real cause.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “Hiroyuki flatly explains why there are no debate shows with amateurs: ‘It’s boring, and few people can actually talk’.”
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