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The story
A thread about Angerme popped up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Despite the announcement that Hashisako Kurumi is graduating, even the haters showed barely any reaction, and the group’s own lack of buzz became the real talking point instead. Opinions in the thread were split — some worried that Hashisako’s graduation would strip the group of its identity, while others argued the impact would be limited. Discussion also touched on how new members should be brought in and the popularity gap with other Hello! Project groups.
What people said
At least bash us a little.
Trying to make 'Great Angerme' catch on as a nickname but getting zero response? Frustrating, huh?
A lame metaphor for a group nobody cares about — no way that's catching on.
https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351410799
It's on the agency for never getting 'Hanamomo' (another combined fan nickname) any real recognition.
Hana? Goto? (lol)
Hirayama especially is bad.
Hirayama barely mentioning the bar event isn't exactly a new development.
They funnel all that kind of talent into Juice=Juice, so groups other than Juice=Juice never see any of it.
The best 'instant asset' talent in recent years was probably Nagano, and she's already in Angerme.
The question now is whether they'll take in a mid-career transfer like Kojima.
Instant asset: Nagano
Worth developing from scratch: Goto and Moimoi
In recent years, members like Motchi and Ritokyame (fan nicknames) come to mind — they got popular pretty much right after joining.
Angerme's otaku numbers will crash overnight, and at that point it might as well not be Angerme anymore — disbanding is the only option.
They probably won't disband, but I get the feeling that losing Hashisako really would strip away what makes Angerme feel like Angerme.
Having to imagine an Angerme without Hashisako all the way until spring is rough.
It's not about who 'counts' — it's that there's a certain Angerme concept.
The rest of the members either fit in fine anywhere or just cause trouble wherever they go.
I rate Nagano, but she'd be totally fine outside Angerme too — she just doesn't have that Angerme-ness.
The agency's probably actually thinking that for real.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Angerme is a long-running group under Hello! Project, and in recent years fans have observed that ‘instant-asset’ new members tend to get funneled toward Juice=Juice. It’s worth noting that labels like ‘instant asset’ and ‘worth developing’ tossed around in the thread aren’t based on any official announcement — they’re just individual posters’ impressions. Also, the line ‘the opposite of love is indifference’ is a well-worn saying in idol fan circles, used to argue that even criticism is proof of passion; this thread flips that logic on its head, mixing self-deprecating jabs with taunts along the lines of ‘not even the haters care anymore.’ Opinions on Hashisako Kurumi’s graduation were far from unanimous — some worried the group would lose its identity, while others argued the impact would be limited. Comments about members’ health or the agency’s intentions remain pure speculation on the posters’ part, and should be read with that in mind.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad News] Not even haters care about Great Angerme anymore — even Hashisako’s graduation is already old news.”
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