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The story
Rakugo performer Tatekawa Shiraku criticized the wave of online bashing directed at actor Mori Reo—who died on September 4 at age 83—over his past relationships with women. Posting on X, he wrote, “They’re just hunting for prey every day” and “Have they lost even the basic decency to mourn the dead?” He added, “I could understand it if the people who were hurt were the ones saying this, but it’s people who have nothing to do with it doing the criticizing.” This raised the question of whether only those directly involved have standing to criticize, and on 5ch, rebuttals poured in—”By that logic you couldn’t criticize murder cases either,” “Shiraku himself butts into topics that have nothing to do with him too”—splitting opinion.
9/14 (Mon) 16:20
Rakugo performer Tatekawa Shiraku’s comments about the sudden death of actor Mori Reo have become a new flashpoint.
“It started on September 12, when Shiraku posted his views on X. After mourning Mori—who died on the 4th at age 83—writing ‘Mori Reo has passed away. That’s a shame,’ Shiraku criticized the wave of people online reviving and bashing his past relationships with women, writing ‘They’re just hunting for prey every day’ and ‘Have they lost even the basic decency to mourn the dead? It’s an ugly sight,’” (entertainment reporter)
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
What people said
If none of that happened, that tells you something, right?
Means there wasn't really a problem.
You mean the Nakai and Kokubun thing?
Must be rough belonging to the 'thou shalt not bash evil' religion.
— you always have, and still are.
Sounds like the kind of guy who'd say 'you weren't murdered, so complain once you are.'
Though since he's already passed away, saying anything now is too late anyway.
even this 'cuckolded old man' (a jab at Shiraku's own scandal) is sticking his nose into it now?
No condolence comments from them?
and more about the Koenji stuff —
tons of petty, scummy little episodes keep surfacing.
Better never take another job.
'she should've gone to the police,'
'it's the woman's fault'
— this industry is so out of touch, that's all they ever say.
People who aren't victims still feel anger at murder news too, don't they
I don't direct anger at the actor, but I still get mad at the rapist character in a drama.
that it's important for everyone to criticize together.
Do you never criticize any incident in the world at all?
Same as Hezuma Ryu (a YouTuber infamous for attention-seeking stunts).
Exactly this, lol
The decent fans know it looks bad so they're trying to just ignore it and let it blow over,
but some guy who doesn't actually care about Mori Reo — just wants attention for himself — keeps picking pointless fights and dragging his name through the mud.
which makes this all the more amusing.
Seemed like the type people would dislike, but he was actually a stand-up guy
Guess we should all live sincerely enough to be remembered that way.
What about the Johnny's boss (Johnny Kitagawa)…
Good point
I don't do Yahoo comments or X, so 5ch is about the right level for this.
Kind of sounds cool though, honestly
'Demon of Koenji.'
Background and key points of this discussion
This controversy started when, following Mori Reo’s death, a wave of posts online revived his past relationships with women. Tatekawa Shiraku’s argument touches on a question that keeps resurfacing in entertainment scandal coverage—”does only the person directly involved have standing to criticize?”—and in the thread, some compared it to past scandal coverage involving figures like Hitoshi Matsumoto and Masahiro Nakai, where unrelated third parties piled on the alleged victims. On the other hand, there’s strong pushback against stretching that logic to cover clear wrongdoing like murder under a blanket “only those involved can speak up” rule, so opinion remains split. It’s also worth noting that since Mori has passed away, the specific facts behind the “relationships with women” claims can no longer be verified, and much of what’s circulating in reports and on social media remains unconfirmed rumor.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Tatekawa Shiraku: ‘I could understand it if the people who were hurt were saying this, but it’s unrelated people criticizing’ — bashing of Mori Reo draws SNS backlash.”
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