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The story
A fashion-themed YouTube Shorts video arguing that “middle-aged men who retreat into comfortable, low-effort outfits as they age look lame” sparked a debate on 5channel’s “Whatever Live” board (Nanademo Jikkyou G). The video criticizes men who stop putting effort into their clothing as they get older, and the thread that followed was split: some pushed back with comments like “once you’re older you don’t need to care about fashion” and “there’s no point dressing up once you’re married,” while others offered more practical takes, such as “even cheap clothes work if you pair them right” and “buying just one expensive item is pointless.” Some argued that facial features matter more than fashion anyway, and the thread never reached a consensus.
Middle-aged guys tend to fall back on lazy fashion
Source: youtube.com / Original video here
What people said
They should've just stayed lame their whole lives.
Actually, once you're a middle-aged guy, just show off that forehead.
Says the guy in weird clothes, looking all smug.
Turns out who's wearing it matters way more than what it is.
The female staff at Village Vanguard actually had taste, but the Second Street guys are just full of themselves.
Worrying about clothes doesn't really matter that much.
Even back when I knew nothing about fashion, I was insanely popular.
That's really all that matters lol
Whether it suits them or not, every young kid out there is wearing the exact same cookie-cutter outfit.
Honestly, even out on the street everyone's just staring at their phones, so nobody cares what anyone else looks like anyway.
Do you even need to buy clothes under some 'everyday wear' category in the first place?
Just think about whether it gets you laid or not — settles it instantly.
It's basically fan merch.
Why are you even going after younger girls in the first place?
You've gotta factor in your own face shape, you know.
Lol, some self-proclaimed 'fashionista' who doesn't even get that.
Cut some slack for the ones who wear it because they genuinely still want to.
Those swaggering old-guy types (ikiri-oji) ride around together on Harleys, and when one of them tips over, the whole gang has to team up to pick the bike back up lol
Clothes are so cheap to produce that it's basically a goldmine…
With enough brand power, suckers will pay top dollar for it.
I've never once seen an otaku on X (Twitter) who's actually into fashion.
This guy is basically the definition of an otaku.
Well yeah, 'expensive clothes' alone are a waste.
What matters is the whole coordination — buying just one piece, or piling on pricey items head to toe without any thought, just ends up looking mismatched.
That just makes it look even more pathetic.
Background and Key Points of the Debate
The spark for this debate was a short YouTube Shorts video posted by a self-described “fashion pro” — the video itself doesn’t offer any verifiable credentials or track record. Discussions about middle-aged men’s clothing choices are a recurring topic on social media, and opinions tend to split between those who see “comfortable clothes” as “giving up” and those who argue that once you’re older or married, there are priorities more important than appearance. The thread followed the same pattern: some agreed with the video’s criticism, while others pushed back with arguments like “attractiveness comes down mostly to facial features, not clothes” and “dressing plainly for your family’s sake is more valuable than dressing up.” No single conclusion emerged. Another recurring point was cost-effectiveness — practical comments like “buying just one expensive item is pointless” and “the overall coordination is what matters” appeared alongside more cynical, industry-critical takes such as “clothes are just cheaply made goods that brand power lets companies sell at a markup.” One thing readers should keep in mind: the video’s “pro” label was never verified within the thread — the discussion rests solely on the self-proclaimed expertise of whoever posted it.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5channel (“Whatever Live” board) thread “[Breaking] Fashion pro: “Middle-aged men who retreat to lazy fashion as they age are seriously lame, cut it out”.”
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