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A U.S. study drawing on data from more than 110,000 people has found that people who drink sugary beverages every day face a higher risk of developing stomach cancer. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, this sparked debate — some pointed out that people who drink sugary drinks daily probably just have messier diets overall, while others argued over whether artificial sweeteners are really any safer and whether fructose is truly bad for you.
Sugary drinks linked to rising stomach cancer risk: U.S. research team studies over 110,000 people
New research warns that people who drink sugary beverages every day face a higher risk of developing stomach cancer.
At the same time, the study suggests artificial sweeteners may lower that risk.
Background and key points of debate
The leading cause of stomach cancer is H. pylori infection, which is why infection rates — and stomach cancer rates — are notably high in Japan and elsewhere in Asia, whereas the U.S., where infection rates are naturally low, sees relatively few cases of the disease to begin with. This study shows a correlation between sugary drink consumption and cancer incidence using a large dataset of over 110,000 people, and it also touches on comparisons with artificial sweeteners — but as with any such study, it’s worth noting this is observational research, not proof that the drinks directly cause cancer.
In the thread, opinions split between those flagging a likely confounding factor — that people who regularly drink sugary beverages may simply have worse diets overall — and those debating whether swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners actually makes things safer. That second point isn’t so simple: some artificial sweeteners, like aspartame, have been classified by the WHO’s International Agency for Research on Cancer as “possibly carcinogenic,” raising separate concerns of their own, so swapping one for the other isn’t necessarily a free pass.
Also, the comment claiming “Americans barely have H. pylori carriers, so there are almost no stomach cancer patients” is really describing a relatively low number, not zero cases. And it’s worth keeping in mind — something the thread doesn’t really get into — that an elevated risk is a population-level statistical trend, not a guarantee that any individual who drinks these beverages will develop cancer.
Source: app.ekkow.com / original article here
What people said
Wouldn't that be more like Coke?
They're also linked to diabetes, heart attacks, stroke, high blood pressure, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and chronic kidney disease.
Truly the devil's drink.
Do not drink this stuff.
There's basically nobody who skips fructose drinks but still eats like it's a junk food festival otherwise.
Same as how there's basically nobody who drinks fructose drinks but otherwise eats a totally healthy diet.
You shouldn't put it that way. What this actually says is that, statistically, artificial sweeteners might lower cancer risk compared to sugary drinks — as for other health effects, who knows.
For cookies and cake, water or hot water is the way to go, apparently.
Or so they say.
Going forward, the style is drinking your dinner alcohol with the sugar left out too.
I think it means the "almost none" just doubled. Even doubled, it's still rare.
are basically junk food lovers.
Guzzle garbage oils → your cells' fat turns to garbage
Guzzle additives → cell damage piles up
Guzzle antibacterial ingredients → your gut bacteria get wiped out
The brain gets fooled,
but the body doesn't — it keeps screaming "more, more! give me real oils, fiber, polyphenols!"
Brain: "OK!" → gets tricked by junk food and keeps eating it forever
Stomach and gut: overloaded and dead
Would something solid like cake or cookies be less bad?
is way too sweet.
probably don't care at all about getting cancer.
That's exactly the problem.
Basically, companies sell stuff cheap now and don't care if it wrecks your body ten years down the line. Make the money now, and when something goes wrong, push the responsibility onto whoever bought it — and onto society, via health insurance.
And if consumers don't use their judgment, companies like that just keep raking it in and get even more entrenched. But the ugly part is that the cost still falls on everyone else in the end, since it's society — through health insurance — that ends up footing the bill.
is ridiculously sickly sweet, isn't it.
The "fructose is bad" camp says artificial sweeteners are claimed to be bad too, but no significant difference has actually been shown.
The "artificial sweeteners are bad" camp somehow just skips right past the fructose issue — or runs with the theory that artificial sweeteners are even worse.
Then go ahead and drink as much sugar as you like.
Tomato juice is fine though.
The no-salt kind, that is.
Then go ahead and lick as much sugar as you like! Go on!
Biting into whole fruit is fine, but turning it into juice is bad news.
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According to that link, fruit is basically poison.
Anything turns into poison or medicine depending on whether you get the dose wrong.
The point is that juice packs in the equivalent of several pieces of fruit and you take it all in at once — that's what makes it dangerous. If you're just biting into the fruit, there's no way you could consume that much that fast.
Right, fructose itself doesn't spike your blood sugar, but the high-fructose corn syrup in bottled juice sends your blood sugar through the roof.
Devil's drink.
You mean "nope" (the soda brand)? It's cheap so I've been buying it like crazy lol
Doubt it'll even still be on shelves in 5 years.
Steve Jobs, a vegetarian who ate a lot of fruit, died young of pancreatic cancer.
Jobs was really into fruit juice, so that actually fits the theory that whole fruit is fine but fruit juice is the dangerous part.
Also he was a picky eater who ate the same things over and over, so his nutrient balance was a mess on top of that — worst combination.
And digging around a bit, apparently he was also exposed to chemicals and lead earlier in life.
*This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Health] Sugary drinks linked to higher stomach cancer risk: U.S. research team studies over 110,000 people.”
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