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A news article describing the hardships of welfare recipients was picked up on 5ch, sparking a heated thread. It introduced cases like a woman in her 80s living on just 500 yen a day for food, and a man in his 70s who sold his guitar and CDs — his hobbies — just to get by. Reactions split right down the middle: harsh comments like “stop coddling yourself” and “personal responsibility,” versus defenders pointing out that “Japan’s welfare recipiency rate is already one of the lowest among developed nations.”
“I feel like they’re telling me to just drop dead” — that’s how one man in his 60s receiving welfare described his cornered state of mind. He started receiving benefits after losing his job, but with prices so high, he can’t even eat out, and he can’t replace broken appliances. A woman in her 80s spends just 500 yen a day on food, and her table has become “nothing but rice.”
A man in his 70s living on his pension said that after paying rent and utilities there’s nothing left for food, so he sold off his CDs and even his beloved guitar.
One man in his 60s buys cheap staples like rice and pasta in bulk and hasn’t eaten meat or fish in years. Another man said he can only afford bread, instant ramen, and packaged retort food, never runs his air conditioner even in summer, and wipes himself down with a towel instead of bathing. Someone else eats one meal a day and has fallen three months behind on their electricity bill.
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
What people said
Then… just don't?
Wouldn't people understand you a bit more then?
Some countries don't even have pachinko.
If pachinko's the problem, just ban it outright — instead people only ever go after welfare recipients.
And the people criticizing like this have no idea what pachinko even involves.
There's no way you could play pachinko every day on such a tiny welfare stipend.
Either it's deliberately written to smear welfare recipients, or the leftist who wrote it is just dim.
If they had, they'd be on their knees giving thanks just to get to eat plain white rice.
who still can't get benefits themselves.
That's what needs fixing.
In other words, they're aiming their complaints at the wrong target — it's the government they should be mad at.
My grandma's about 95 and living a comfortable, carefree life.
That's because she lived through the war, became a nurse, and worked sleepless nights doing everything from regular duties to operating-room nursing.
are below the 50th percentile academically, after all.
Once you're an adult, your circumstances are entirely your own responsibility.
If welfare recipients make up under 3% of the population, that's actually not bad.
half the population is below the 50th percentile.
Written with built-in weak points, designed to get people bashing welfare recipients.
what's the point of paying in for decades if you still end up worse off than someone on welfare?
You could still apply and possibly get welfare on top —
just the difference between your pension and the welfare standard amount.
"Decades," you say —
how much are you even paying in each month?
You'll get back double what you pay in monthly, eventually.
If you pay in for the required 30 years,
you won't end up below welfare level.
that stuff's too pricey for poor people to actually buy — they get the 28-yen bag of udon instead.
Nobody ever writes about that. If I wrote the article, it'd probably be the best one in Japan.
You're an idiot.
Mass media has to blend fact and fiction and pander to the masses, or nobody's interested.
in an elementary school grade of about 120 kids, maybe 2 would end up needing it — it's a narrow gate.
For an average person to fall that far seems like it'd take quite a lot.
to keep them from dying destitute in the streets.
Come on, have you considered that some vulnerable people can't even manage self-sufficiency?
Way too many people act like "welfare" automatically means "fraud."
Background and Key Points
Welfare Recipient: “I Feel Like They’re Telling Me to Just Drop Dead”
Japan’s public assistance program (生活保護, seikatsu hogo) is a means-tested last resort, not an entitlement most citizens ever touch — roughly 1 in 65 people receive it, a figure posters in the thread cited directly. The benefit amount is set regionally to cover a bare subsistence line, adjusted for age, household size, and location, and recipients who also draw a pension only receive the gap between that pension and the welfare standard. That detail matters because Japan’s national pension requires 30 years of contributions for a full payout, and posters flagged the uncomfortable overlap: someone who paid into the system for decades can still end up worse off than a person who never worked and simply qualifies for welfare outright.
The thread’s real fault line wasn’t “welfare is bad” versus “welfare is good” — it was about legitimacy and blame. One camp treated visible deprivation (rice-only meals, no air conditioning, selling a guitar) as evidence the system is too stingy, pointing to Japan’s low recipiency rate relative to other developed nations as proof the safety net is already narrow. The other camp questioned whether the article itself was accurate, several suspicious it was constructed to bait resentment, and argued that comparing recipients to the general population’s own hardships (bakers cutting back on rice, workers below the “50th percentile”) flattens a meaningful distinction between poverty and a guaranteed floor.
What outside readers likely miss: welfare stigma in Japan is unusually intense, tied to strong cultural expectations of self-reliance and family support obligations (older relatives are still informally expected to be able to lean on children first), which is why so many posters reflexively frame recipiency as moral failure rather than policy design. The thread never mentioned Japan’s notoriously low benefit take-up rate among those who technically qualify but never apply out of shame — arguably the more consequential story than the one it told.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Welfare Recipient: “I Feel Like They’re Telling Me to Just Drop Dead”.”
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