Is Short Really an Advantage in Soccer? 5ch Weighs In: ‘Top Scorers Average 185cm’

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A thread kicked off with the claim that “being short is an advantage in soccer,” and 5ch users pushed back hard. Someone brought up data showing that the top scorers across Europe’s big 5 leagues average about 185cm in height, sparking a debate over whether short legends like Pelé, Maradona, and Messi are actually the exception rather than the rule. Others pointed out that it really depends on the position.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:20
Even looking at some of the greatest players of all time—
Pelé was in the low 170s (cm)
Maradona was around 165cm
4AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:22
As long as the ball's on the ground, being shorter might help with close control and a lower center of gravity.
But defenders who can't afford to lose aerial duels definitely need the height.
10AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:27
Re: #4
There used to be a player named Fabio Cannavaro, you know
5AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:25
Being tall really only helps for GK, CB, and maybe a classic No. 9 striker.
6AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:25
That used to be true, but it's all about physicality these days.
11AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:27
Players with exceptional footwork skills were mostly short guys.
Zidane's about the only exception.
12AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
Lukaku misses so many shots, he's kind of a letdown as a forward lol
13AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
Mbappé's 180cm
19AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
Re: #13
That guy's a textbook physical elite athlete
14AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
I don't picture Puyol or Baresi as being all that tall either
15AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
If you're short, your legs are shorter too
That's a disadvantage in reach for us
17AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
If you're short, your legs are shorter too
That's a disadvantage in reach to the ball
20AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
It's just the laws of physics in this world—being tall lets you hit more powerful shots
21AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
Ronaldo isn't really a skill-based player
22AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:31
If I had another 10cm of height, I might've aimed to be a pro goalkeeper
24AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:32
The three guys in OP were short, but they were physically strong, right?
Well, I don't really know much about Pelé, admittedly
But Maradona was like a little boulder
25AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
If you go by that logic, the 'Ohtani is the greatest' argument starts looking shaky too
30AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
Re: #25
Even he'd be below average if he played basketball
26AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
There used to be a 168cm goalkeeper who played in the World Cup
27AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
Messi's probably going to be the last guy who could reach the top while being around 170cm
35AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Re: #27
Nah, I bet some surprisingly tiny star player will show up eventually
28AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
【Top 3 Scorers in Europe's Big 5 Leagues】

Premier League
1st Haaland 27 goals 195cm
2nd Igor Thiago 22 goals 190cm
3rd Semenyo 17 goals 185cm

La Liga
1st Mbappé 25 goals 178cm
2nd Muriqi 23 goals 194cm
3rd Budimir 17 goals 190cm

Serie A
1st Lautaro 17 goals 174cm
2nd Maren 14 goals 178cm
2nd Dovbyk 14 goals 186cm

Bundesliga
1st Kane 36 goals 188cm
2nd Undav 19 goals 179cm
3rd Guirassy 17 goals 187cm

Ligue 1
1st Lepaul 21 goals 181cm
2nd Greenwood 16 goals 181cm
2nd Panichelli 16 goals 190cm

Average height of these 15 players: approx. 185cm
36AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Re: #28
Taller than I expected, honestly
Guess goal-scoring forwards really do need height after all
31AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
At this rate Kawasaki Frontale's gonna be the best team in the world (joke about a mid-table J.League club)
32AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
I saw Harry Kane get blown clean away by Messi in the last World Cup
33AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Yamal's gotten taller too
The era of short guys dreaming big is over
38AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Re: #33
Yamal's around 180cm now, right?
34AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Well, Maradona could head the ball with his hand, after all (a jab at the 'Hand of God' goal)
37AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
Haaland, here we go again
Son Heung-min, here we go again
39AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:37
Spain's national team averages 181cm, ranking 32nd out of 48 countries
Yeah, height's got nothing to do with it
By the way, Argentina averages 179cm
41AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:44
Re: #39
Japan's about the same, I think
40AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:41
Rodri, who comes across as a classic skillful midfielder, is actually 190cm too
42AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:44
In running-based sports, being tall is an advantage
Assuming the shorter guy puts in just as much effort, of course
47AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:49
Soccer's totally role-based. Center forwards and center backs clearly need tall players,
but for midfielders, my impression is that the world's top players are actually mostly in the 170s (cm).
55AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:09
Re: #47
That's exactly why soccer's a more equal-opportunity sport than most others
48AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:50
Back in the Zidane, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká era, everyone was tall
Then in the Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Salah, Griezmann, Hazard era, it was all short guys
Is the tall-player era making a comeback now?
51AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:53
Re: #48
It's the opposite
Spain winning brought back the passing-soccer era
Same thing happened back when Barça was dominant—it became all about passing then too
53AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:00
Being short only helps in cases like horse racing, where the rider is basically cargo
Or airsoft, where being small makes you harder to spot
Generally speaking, being tall is the advantage
Tennis is a clear example—short players got weeded out
57AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:14
Re: #53
Still, today's top tennis players are only around 180-something cm
so it's not like they're that tall
56AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:11
Guys like Franco Baresi, a center back who was only 176cm
I love players like that
58AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:14
Re: #56
The guy who broke Kazu's nose, huh 🅆 (referring to Japanese soccer legend Kazuyoshi Miura)

Background and Key Points

Being short is an advantage in soccer, the OP says. Data from Europe’s “Big 5” leagues—the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, the highest-revenue domestic competitions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, and France—undercuts that: the top three scorers in each league this season average roughly 185cm, taller than the general adult male population in any of those countries. That framing matters because soccer’s short-legend mythology runs deep: Pelé (~172cm), Maradona (~165cm), and Messi (~170cm) are held up worldwide, including in Japan, as proof that skill beats size.

The thread didn’t split on whether tall players dominate scoring charts—the data settled that. It split on why. Some read the height average as confirmation that physicality now rules center-forward play. Others argued the stat is misleading because it only counts strikers and center-backs, positions that have always favored height, while midfielders (Rodri at 190cm was the thread’s own counterexample, notwithstanding) and creative players still skew shorter. No consensus emerged on whether soccer overall favors height or is, per one poster, more “equal-opportunity” than sports like basketball or tennis.

What the thread never addressed: national team averages. A poster noted Spain averages 181cm (32nd of 48 nations) and Argentina 179cm, implying height barely correlates with success at the country level even as it does among individual scorers—a tension nobody in the thread reconciled. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese soccer discourse should also know the “short players can still win” narrative carries extra weight domestically, since Japan’s national team has long been shorter than its European and South American rivals.

※This article is an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “No matter how you look at it, soccer’s a sport where being short is an advantage.”

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