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  • PC Prices Skyrocket: ‘You Need ¥300,000 Just to Get a Decent One,’ Users Say, Blaming Memory and CPU Hikes

    A thread on 5ch posed the question, “Do you really need ¥300,000 these days just to buy a decent computer?” — sparking debate over soaring prices for memory, CPUs, and even USB flash drives.

    Some argued that ¥100,000-something is plenty if you’re not gaming, while others countered that ¥300,000 is the real floor if you want to run AI workloads or just want a smooth experience. The discussion ranged widely, touching on the weak yen, real-world prices at retailer Dospara, and used off-lease corporate PCs as a budget option.

    1AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:03
    Kids these days just don't use PCs anymore.
    3AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:06
    Prices are climbing, but ¥100,000 will still get you by.
    4AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:07
    If you're not gaming, there's no need to build something expensive.
    5AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:09
    Not sure where the line for 'decent' is, but if you want a laptop with high-end specs, ¥300,000 becomes the floor.
    6AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:09
    If it's not for gaming, you can find one for around ¥100,000.
    7AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:09
    Young people just buy Snapdragon (ARM-based) laptops instead.
    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:09
    Smartphone-only little punks be like: 'I've used a smartphone since I was a kid so I'm basically a tech genius lol'
    10AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:11
    If you don't game, a used corporate PC is plenty.
    19AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:18
    Re: #10
    Is the licensing on those even legit?
    12AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:13
    The threshold for expensing something as a business cost without depreciating it is now up to ¥400,000, right?
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:13
    They kept telling us to upgrade to Win11, but Win10 support got extended by a ton.
    14AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:15
    Just get by with a tablet plus a physical keyboard.
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:15
    Well, even before Windows 95, a PC that actually worked properly started around ¥300,000, so just think of it as going back to the old days.
    16AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:16
    You need at least 8GB of RAM minimum, or your browser alone will max it out.
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:17
    PC prices have gotten so bad that Microsoft, on top of extending Win10 support, is also working hard to make Win11 usable with just 8GB of RAM. Fitting, since Microsoft — busy building data centers — is part of the reason semiconductor prices spiked in the first place.
    20AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:18
    Re: #18
    They should've just done that from the start, honestly. Why's the OS itself hogging so much memory before you've even started working?
    22AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:19
    Thanks to the memory price hikes, a decent laptop that'll last you a few years now starts around ¥200,000. And that's with no GPU — just an 8-core-ish CPU, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD.
    24AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:20
    These days you're probably better off with a tablet plus a keyboard and mouse.
    25AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:22
    Want to replace my desktop with a BTO or custom build, but memory's roughly 3x the price now… what do I even do.
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:22
    Did you know USB flash drives have shot up in price too? Ones that used to be under ¥2,000 are now almost ¥6,000.
    31AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:26
    If you can somehow sort out the memory with used parts, you could probably build something decent for around ¥100,000, but it really comes down to which graphics card you go with. Depends what you want to do with it.
    32AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:27
    Just hop between used off-lease corporate PCs.
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:27
    You have to allocate memory to the integrated GPU too, so you'll want at least 16GB. Even the PS5 has 16GB. With 32GB you can do pretty much anything without stress.
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:28
    Back in the day you could gauge performance roughly from the Pentium number, but I have no clue with CPUs these days.
    36AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:29
    There's a huge price gap between 16GB and 32GB of RAM.
    37AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:30
    The DDR5 32GB kit I bought on sale for ¥6,000 about a year and a half ago is going for around ¥80,000 now.
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:30
    Well, I don't really use a PC for work anymore anyway, so it's fine by me — a smartphone covers most things. Still, I can't forgive whoever steered us into this excessive yen depreciation.
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:32
    PCs have gotten more expensive, but I don't feel like performance has actually gone up to match.
    40AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:32
    If you're running AI stuff at home, you really do want a solid GPU and lots of memory, so I get why prices are up.
    41AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:32
    If you're not playing the newest games, ¥100,000 should do it.
    43AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:35
    Got a refurbished Let's Note off Amazon for under ¥50,000 and it runs great.
    44AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:37
    At Dospara you're looking at ¥180,000 plus ¥50,000-60,000 for an external GPU, and you're set.
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:38
    Dospara's probably the cheapest — under ¥150,000 if 16GB of RAM is enough for you.
    50AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:42
    Memory prices have calmed down a bit compared to a while back, but now everyone's started hiking CPU prices instead. You can make do on memory by going DDR4 or even DDR3 worst case, but storage prices climbing too is kind of a pain. Probably safest to grab something used from a place like PC Konfuru and just buy whatever extra performance you actually need.
    52AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:46
    Re: #50
    Cheap. Though I'd want a slightly better CPU.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s current PC-price anxiety sits on top of a global memory shortage: DRAM and NAND makers (Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron) have redirected fab capacity toward HBM and server memory for AI data centers — including the ones Microsoft and other hyperscalers are building — so consumer DDR5 and SSD prices have spiked worldwide over 2025. In Japan that global hike is compounded by a yen sitting in the ¥145-150+/dollar range, since most components are priced in dollars. Retailers like Dospara, a BTO (build-to-order) chain popular for custom desktops, are one of the few places where Japanese buyers can watch these swings in real yen terms rather than through a foreign retailer’s listing.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t about whether prices rose — everyone agreed they did — but about where “decent” sits: posters using a PC only for browsing or office work kept insisting ¥100,000 (roughly $650) is still workable, especially via off-lease corporate PCs (used business machines cycled out after a few years’ lease, resold cheaply), while those factoring in gaming or local AI workloads pushed the floor to ¥200,000-300,000.

    What’s likely to confuse non-Japanese readers: the ¥300,000/¥400,000 figure raised about business expensing refers to Japan’s small-business tax rule letting equipment purchases be written off immediately rather than depreciated over several years — a tax-code detail unrelated to hardware value. Also unmentioned: Windows 10’s official end-of-support already passed (October 2025), and Japan, like other markets, got a temporary consumer ESU reprieve, which is why several posters could shrug off upgrade pressure despite Windows 11’s higher RAM demands.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Do you really need ¥300,000 to buy a decent computer?“

  • 5ch: How One Character Can Change Everything — ‘The Inevitable Dream-Chasing Sake’

    A thread on the Hello! Project board asked users for words where swapping just a single character completely changes the meaning — like 「しょうがない夢追い人」(“a dream-chaser who just can’t help it”) versus 「しょうもない夢追い人」(“a pathetic dream-chaser”). Most of the replies were puns built on actual Hello! Project song titles: entries like “The Inevitable Dream-Chasing Sake,” “I Just Wanted to Be Grilled Tonight,” and “End-of-Life Planning Sensation” kept rolling in, each one a knowing wink for anyone who recognized the original track.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:09
    Got any examples?
    5AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:12
    The Inevitable Dream-Chasing Sake (a pun on the classic enka standard 'Yumeoi Zake')
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:17
    You mean like the 'Fat Machine' one?
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:37
    'Shoganai-nai Dream-Chasing Sake'
    'Might Throw Up'

    — released as a double A-side
    16AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:37
    I Just Wanted to Be Grilled Tonight (a pun swapping 'held' for 'grilled' — same sound, very different vibe)
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:38
    End-of-Life Planning Sensation (a pun on a Hello! Project 'Sensation' song title)
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:39
    Tom Jones vs. Jim Jones (the singer vs. the Jonestown cult leader)
    Murai Kunio vs. Murai Hideo (a veteran Japanese voice actor vs. the Aum Shinrikyo cult member)
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:41
    Cracked me up
    LOLOLOL
    25AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:46
    I Wanna Be-a Your Girlfriend!!! (one swapped particle turns it into broken Japanese)
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:47
    Get Glammed! Morning Curry (a pun on the idol group Morning Musume)
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:01
    First Bonito Cider (a pun on the real song 'First Love Cider' — swapping 'love' for 'bonito')
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:08
    Oh, kinda like turning 'I'll Love You for a Million Years' into 'I'll Love You for a Million Yen'?
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:08
    Ga Va? Ga Va? (a play on ANGERME's 'Ça Va? Ça Va?')
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:09
    That's right, indeed! (said in a rustic dialect)
    52AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:13
    Re: #45
    I love that, lol

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project is the umbrella idol agency founded by producer Tsunku in 1998, encompassing Morning Musume, ANGERME, and a rotating cast of subgroups; its own 5ch board is one of the most active idol-fandom spaces on the site, with a long-running culture of wordplay threads. The genre here—swapping a single character (or kana) to flip a phrase’s meaning—is a staple of Japanese board humor, but this thread’s specific hook is punning on real song titles from the Hello! Project catalog, so the joke only lands if you recognize the original: “Yumeoi Zake” (夢追い酒, “Dream-Chasing Sake”) is actually a famous 1980 enka standard by Sachiko Kobayashi, not a Hello! Project song, used here as the base text the group riffs on with the しょうがない/しょうもない gag from the OP.

    The thread doesn’t really argue over correctness so much as split in tone: most posters stay inside the bit, twisting real titles (“Sensation,” “First Love Cider,” ANGERME’s “Ça Va? Ça Va?”) into absurdist near-homophones, while a couple of posts (19) abandon the song-title format entirely for shock-value pairings—most notably contrasting singer Tom Jones with cult leader Jim Jones, and voice actor Murai Kunio with Murai Hideo, the Aum Shinrikyo member infamously stabbed to death by a yakuza-linked attacker in front of live TV cameras in 1995. That’s the point where the thread’s tone visibly forks between genial fandom wordplay and darker true-crime references dropped without comment.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that almost none of these “jokes” are invented from scratch—they’re built entirely on titles that actually exist, so the humor is really a discography trivia contest disguised as wordplay.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread「Things Where Just One Character Completely Changes the Impression, Like ‘A Dream-Chaser Who Can’t Help It’ vs. ‘A Pathetic Dream-Chaser’」.

  • New Condos in Tokyo’s 23 Wards Hit Record ¥265.2 Million — Double Last Year’s Price

    The Real Estate Economic Institute has reported that the average price of newly built condominiums in Tokyo’s 23 wards has roughly doubled year-over-year to ¥265.2 million, setting a new record high. On 5ch, many commenters initially misread this as a month-over-month doubling and reacted with shock, but the figure is actually a year-over-year comparison. Posters debated what’s driving the surge, with some concluding that “only the rich can afford to buy anymore.”

    On the 20th, the Real Estate Economic Institute announced that the average price of newly built condominiums in Tokyo’s 23 wards for July was ¥265.2 million — roughly double the same month a year earlier — setting a new record high.

    In the six central wards (Chiyoda, Chuo, Minato, Shinjuku, Bunkyo, and Shibuya), the average price more than doubled to ¥436.99 million.

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:28
    This is just insane.
    Japan is completely broken at this point.
    15AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:29
    Doubling in a single month?
    This isn't crypto, come on.
    16AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:29
    Sounds like it's smarter to lock in a mortgage sooner rather than later.
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:31
    Things have gotten pretty wild.
    The wealthy have clearly shifted their mindset — from the old deflation-era thinking of "prices will come back down eventually" to the inflation-era thinking of "buy now before it gets even more expensive."
    As always, it's only the clueless average person who hasn't caught on yet.
    30AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:33
    Re: #24
    It's funny — the smart rich are snapping up stocks and real estate to hedge against inflation, while ordinary people are still out here saying prices will go back to normal once taxes get cut.
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:36
    Homeownership rate:
    dead last in the entire country, by a mile.
    46AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:37
    Re: #39
    Well, that's also partly because of the insane number of students flooding into Tokyo.
    41AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:37
    Is it the spike in naphtha and other raw material costs?
    95AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:52
    Re: #41
    That's part of it, but it's really the labor shortage and rising material costs.
    It's a supply problem, so no amount of government policy is going to fix it.
    42AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:37
    An average of ¥260 million, lol.
    At this rate even used condos are easily topping ¥100 million.
    Who on earth can actually live here?
    Even a "power couple" with a combined household income of ¥10 million would barely swing it with a 50-year joint mortgage.
    75AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:47
    Re: #42
    A household income of ¥10 million in Tokyo doesn't even make you a "power couple" anymore.
    57AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:40
    Wait, does that make me a huge winner — I've been living in a ¥50,000-a-month studio 10 minutes from the station on the Denentoshi Line in Setagaya for the past 10 years?
    63AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:42
    Re: #57
    You hit the landlord jackpot — an SSR-tier landlord who never raises the rent. (SSR: gacha-game slang for the rarest, best-possible pull)
    59AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:41
    Everyone, withdraw all your savings right now, convert it all to dollars, hide it in a jar, and bury it in your backyard.
    62AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:42
    Re: #59
    My savings were already at zero.
    65AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:42
    Places that were selling for ¥70 million five years ago have doubled in price, so now even upper-middle-income buyers are priced out.
    Meanwhile people who've made money in stocks keep buying like normal, so it's only the absurdly expensive condos moving — which has completely broken the average.
    83AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:49
    Re: #65
    In the end, the people who bought homes during — or better yet, before — the pandemic are today's real winners.
    That's the current 30-somethings,
    the generation that had it easy job-hunting thanks to Abenomics.
    Gen Z, on the other hand, is looking at absolute hell.
    70AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:45
    Condos differ in things like curtain rails and towel racks depending on the building's grade,
    but the sad part is that even a ¥100-million condo now comes with fittings equivalent to what you'd have gotten in an old ¥40-million condo.
    74AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:46
    Re: #70
    Funny how condos from around the DPJ era (Democratic Party of Japan, in power 2009–2012), by contrast, tend to have better quality for the price.
    71AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:45
    I always wonder — what do the people buying these places even do for a living?
    Even a doctor or lawyer couldn't swing a ¥400 million house.
    76AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:47
    Re: #71
    Probably nobody but foreigners or company owners.
    86AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:49
    Ice Age generation (those who job-hunted during Japan's brutal 1990s–2000s recession): "Work hard and it pays off! Only fools mess around with stocks and real estate!"
    Yutori generation (the more relaxed post-Ice-Age cohort): "Thanks to the Ice Age generation refusing to buy, stocks and real estate stayed dirt cheap — and we scooped them up and made a killing."
    91AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:51
    Re: #86
    You can already see the crash coming in a few years.
    89AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:50
    Nice, must be good.
    Maybe I should switch careers into real estate too?
    Anyone can become a sales agent for used condos, right?
    Plus it's short-staffed and super profitable — sounds like a total blue ocean.
    100AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:53
    Re: #89
    Takes guts — you'd be steering through the toughest market conditions since the bubble era.
    93AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:51
    It's insane that a decently-paid working-class person can't buy a home within 20-30 minutes of central Tokyo on a single income anymore.
    It's over.
    107AnonymousAug 24, 2026 05:56
    Re: #93
    Even back in the early Heisei era, regular salarymen couldn't afford homes in central Tokyo either — that's exactly why they leveled hillsides out in rural Tama and built all those bedroom-town developments.
    It was actually the "Lost 30 Years" that was the anomaly, when ordinary salarymen could buy homes within the 23 wards.

    Background and Key Points

    The Real Estate Economic Institute (不動産経済研究所) is the industry body that has tracked new-condo pricing in the Tokyo area since the 1970s, and its monthly 23-wards average is the benchmark Japanese media and banks use to gauge the capital’s housing market. ¥265.2 million works out to roughly $1.8 million at current exchange rates, for a *new-build* unit — not a mansion, just an ordinary condominium. The doubling to ¥436.99 million in the six central wards (Chiyoda, Chuo, Minato, Shinjuku, Bunkyo, Shibuya) reflects those wards’ concentration of luxury towers aimed at wealthy Japanese, corporate buyers, and foreign investment.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t over the headline number but over the cause: some blamed a genuine mindset shift among wealthy Japanese, moving from three decades of deflationary “prices will fall again” thinking to inflation-era “buy now,” while others pointed to a straightforward supply-side story — labor shortages and rising material costs squeezing all new construction, which no policy fix can reverse quickly. A side debate also broke out over Tokyo’s rock-bottom homeownership rate, which one poster attributed less to prices than to the sheer number of students and transients who never buy at all.

    What the thread never engages with is that record-high luxury units skew a citywide “average” upward even if typical listings haven’t moved proportionally — and, as one late reply noted, ordinary salarymen affording central Tokyo homes was itself a historical anomaly of the deflationary “Lost 30 Years,” not the long-run norm.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (general live-commentary) board thread “[Sad News] Average Price of New Condos in Tokyo’s 23 Wards Doubles “Month-over-Month” WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW” (the W’s mimic laughter, like “lol”).

  • Depression Patients Show Shrinkage in Brain’s Memory and Learning Regions — 5ch Reacts: ‘We Already Knew That’

    A new study has found that part of the hippocampus — the brain region tied to memory and learning — is shrunk in people with depression. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, the reaction was largely unimpressed (“didn’t we already know this?”), though the thread also drew personal accounts from people living with bipolar disorder, along with comments describing the difference between auditory hallucinations and sounds you actually hear through your ears.

    Study finds regions related to memory and learning are reduced in the brains of depression patients

    Depression has long been known to be a risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but exactly how depression and cognitive decline interact with each other has remained poorly understood.

    A new study of middle-aged and older adults with depression found that the volume of specific hippocampal regions involved in memory and learning was reduced in patients’ brains.

    Source: nature.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:00
    Yep, that's basically us alright.
    60AnonymousAug 20, 2026 05:15
    There's someone in here posting about schizophrenia, but that has nothing to do with depression — what are they even thinking?
    Though with depression, getting slandered/abused enough does make you stop moving and turn into a shut-in.

    For someone with bipolar disorder —
    in the manic phase, the body gets physically active,
    in the depressive phase, it's a shut-in state.
    62AnonymousAug 20, 2026 05:30
    Yeah, high-stress jobs really are the worst for this.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:37
    I just want to reach a point where I don't need to see a psychiatrist anymore.
    65AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:33
    There's a manga by someone who actually recovered from depression — Hiroyuki brought it up a while back, and I think it could genuinely help people with mental health struggles (メンヘラ, slang for someone dealing with mental/emotional issues) as a kind of self-therapy.
    Pretty sure you could read it online for free.

    The author goes by EMI.

    "Paradigm Shift: Bokunchi" (パラダイムシフト ぼくんち)

    just google that and it'll come up.
    I think it got published as an actual book too.
    66AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:39
    Just speaking from my own experience, but —

    normal sound travels through the air and reaches your ears, right?

    But with the auditory hallucinations that come with schizophrenia, there's no sound traveling through the air.

    It's a sound your own head is generating and echoing inside your own head.

    If you're ever unsure whether something's a hallucination, it might help to listen closely and compare it against how real sound reaches you through your ears.

    Background and Key Points

    The finding centers on the hippocampus, the seahorse-shaped brain structure central to forming memories and learning, which researchers already regarded as a likely link between depression and later Alzheimer’s risk. The new work, published via Nature and discussed on 5ch’s Science News+ board — one of the site’s dedicated science-discussion forums, where threads gather anonymous, rapid-fire reactions rather than moderated debate — reportedly narrows the finding to specific hippocampal subregions rather than the structure as a whole, in a study of middle-aged and older adults with depression. For readers unfamiliar with Japan’s online culture, 5ch (formerly 2channel) is the country’s largest anonymous forum, and posts are numbered rather than attributed to named users.

    The thread didn’t really split over the science — the dominant reaction was that this merely confirmed a long-suspected link. What actually diverged was tone: clinical shrug versus posters sharing lived experience of bipolar disorder’s manic/depressive cycling, and a tangent into distinguishing auditory hallucinations from real sound. One poster (60) explicitly objected that a schizophrenia discussion had drifted into a depression thread, treating the two as unrelated conditions — a distinction the posters made but never explained.

    What’s easy to miss: the study establishes a correlation between depression and reduced volume in specific memory-related hippocampal areas, not that depression causes irreversible brain damage or that shrinkage predicts dementia in any individual. The thread never mentions sample size, whether volume changes track with treatment or remission, or how “shrinkage” was measured — details that would matter for judging how strong this evidence actually is.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Neuroscience] Study finds regions related to memory and learning are reduced in the brains of depression patients.”

  • Is Short Really an Advantage in Soccer? 5ch Weighs In: ‘Top Scorers Average 185cm’

    A thread kicked off with the claim that “being short is an advantage in soccer,” and 5ch users pushed back hard. Someone brought up data showing that the top scorers across Europe’s big 5 leagues average about 185cm in height, sparking a debate over whether short legends like Pelé, Maradona, and Messi are actually the exception rather than the rule. Others pointed out that it really depends on the position.

    1AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:20
    Even looking at some of the greatest players of all time—
    Pelé was in the low 170s (cm)
    Maradona was around 165cm
    4AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:22
    As long as the ball's on the ground, being shorter might help with close control and a lower center of gravity.
    But defenders who can't afford to lose aerial duels definitely need the height.
    10AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:27
    Re: #4
    There used to be a player named Fabio Cannavaro, you know
    5AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:25
    Being tall really only helps for GK, CB, and maybe a classic No. 9 striker.
    6AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:25
    That used to be true, but it's all about physicality these days.
    11AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:27
    Players with exceptional footwork skills were mostly short guys.
    Zidane's about the only exception.
    12AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
    Lukaku misses so many shots, he's kind of a letdown as a forward lol
    13AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
    Mbappé's 180cm
    19AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    Re: #13
    That guy's a textbook physical elite athlete
    14AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:28
    I don't picture Puyol or Baresi as being all that tall either
    15AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
    If you're short, your legs are shorter too
    That's a disadvantage in reach for us
    17AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
    If you're short, your legs are shorter too
    That's a disadvantage in reach to the ball
    20AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    It's just the laws of physics in this world—being tall lets you hit more powerful shots
    21AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    Ronaldo isn't really a skill-based player
    22AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:31
    If I had another 10cm of height, I might've aimed to be a pro goalkeeper
    24AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:32
    The three guys in OP were short, but they were physically strong, right?
    Well, I don't really know much about Pelé, admittedly
    But Maradona was like a little boulder
    25AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    If you go by that logic, the 'Ohtani is the greatest' argument starts looking shaky too
    30AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
    Re: #25
    Even he'd be below average if he played basketball
    26AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    There used to be a 168cm goalkeeper who played in the World Cup
    27AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    Messi's probably going to be the last guy who could reach the top while being around 170cm
    35AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Re: #27
    Nah, I bet some surprisingly tiny star player will show up eventually
    28AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    【Top 3 Scorers in Europe's Big 5 Leagues】

    Premier League
    1st Haaland 27 goals 195cm
    2nd Igor Thiago 22 goals 190cm
    3rd Semenyo 17 goals 185cm

    La Liga
    1st Mbappé 25 goals 178cm
    2nd Muriqi 23 goals 194cm
    3rd Budimir 17 goals 190cm

    Serie A
    1st Lautaro 17 goals 174cm
    2nd Maren 14 goals 178cm
    2nd Dovbyk 14 goals 186cm

    Bundesliga
    1st Kane 36 goals 188cm
    2nd Undav 19 goals 179cm
    3rd Guirassy 17 goals 187cm

    Ligue 1
    1st Lepaul 21 goals 181cm
    2nd Greenwood 16 goals 181cm
    2nd Panichelli 16 goals 190cm

    Average height of these 15 players: approx. 185cm
    36AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Re: #28
    Taller than I expected, honestly
    Guess goal-scoring forwards really do need height after all
    31AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
    At this rate Kawasaki Frontale's gonna be the best team in the world (joke about a mid-table J.League club)
    32AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:34
    I saw Harry Kane get blown clean away by Messi in the last World Cup
    33AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Yamal's gotten taller too
    The era of short guys dreaming big is over
    38AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Re: #33
    Yamal's around 180cm now, right?
    34AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Well, Maradona could head the ball with his hand, after all (a jab at the 'Hand of God' goal)
    37AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:35
    Haaland, here we go again
    Son Heung-min, here we go again
    39AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:37
    Spain's national team averages 181cm, ranking 32nd out of 48 countries
    Yeah, height's got nothing to do with it
    By the way, Argentina averages 179cm
    41AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:44
    Re: #39
    Japan's about the same, I think
    40AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:41
    Rodri, who comes across as a classic skillful midfielder, is actually 190cm too
    42AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:44
    In running-based sports, being tall is an advantage
    Assuming the shorter guy puts in just as much effort, of course
    47AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:49
    Soccer's totally role-based. Center forwards and center backs clearly need tall players,
    but for midfielders, my impression is that the world's top players are actually mostly in the 170s (cm).
    55AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:09
    Re: #47
    That's exactly why soccer's a more equal-opportunity sport than most others
    48AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:50
    Back in the Zidane, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká era, everyone was tall
    Then in the Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Salah, Griezmann, Hazard era, it was all short guys
    Is the tall-player era making a comeback now?
    51AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:53
    Re: #48
    It's the opposite
    Spain winning brought back the passing-soccer era
    Same thing happened back when Barça was dominant—it became all about passing then too
    53AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:00
    Being short only helps in cases like horse racing, where the rider is basically cargo
    Or airsoft, where being small makes you harder to spot
    Generally speaking, being tall is the advantage
    Tennis is a clear example—short players got weeded out
    57AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:14
    Re: #53
    Still, today's top tennis players are only around 180-something cm
    so it's not like they're that tall
    56AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:11
    Guys like Franco Baresi, a center back who was only 176cm
    I love players like that
    58AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:14
    Re: #56
    The guy who broke Kazu's nose, huh 🅆 (referring to Japanese soccer legend Kazuyoshi Miura)

    Background and Key Points

    Being short is an advantage in soccer, the OP says. Data from Europe’s “Big 5” leagues—the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, the highest-revenue domestic competitions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, and France—undercuts that: the top three scorers in each league this season average roughly 185cm, taller than the general adult male population in any of those countries. That framing matters because soccer’s short-legend mythology runs deep: Pelé (~172cm), Maradona (~165cm), and Messi (~170cm) are held up worldwide, including in Japan, as proof that skill beats size.

    The thread didn’t split on whether tall players dominate scoring charts—the data settled that. It split on why. Some read the height average as confirmation that physicality now rules center-forward play. Others argued the stat is misleading because it only counts strikers and center-backs, positions that have always favored height, while midfielders (Rodri at 190cm was the thread’s own counterexample, notwithstanding) and creative players still skew shorter. No consensus emerged on whether soccer overall favors height or is, per one poster, more “equal-opportunity” than sports like basketball or tennis.

    What the thread never addressed: national team averages. A poster noted Spain averages 181cm (32nd of 48 nations) and Argentina 179cm, implying height barely correlates with success at the country level even as it does among individual scorers—a tension nobody in the thread reconciled. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese soccer discourse should also know the “short players can still win” narrative carries extra weight domestically, since Japan’s national team has long been shorter than its European and South American rivals.

    ※This article is an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “No matter how you look at it, soccer’s a sport where being short is an advantage.”

  • Kudo Yua’s Blog Dinner Post Sparks Reaction — 5ch: ‘Relieved She’s Probably Never Had a Boyfriend’

    The dinner Juice=Juice’s Yua Kudo (nicknamed Tako-chan) shared on her blog — a simple bowl of microwaved udon made with white dashi and water, topped with a single egg — became a hot topic on 5ch. Alongside comments worried about her diet, like “Relieved she’s probably never had a boyfriend” and “I feel like cooking for herself would give her more stable, glowing skin,” plenty of positive reactions stood out too, such as “Never thought about it before, but I’m starting to like her more for this” and “I actually like that she’s kind of a clumsy, lazy-around-the-house type.” The thread lit up with recipe suggestions and personal anecdotes.

    Tonight’s dinner was udon!

    White dashi and water,

    microwaved udon with a whole egg!

    Source: ameblo.jp / Original post here

    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:23
    Relieved she's probably never had a boyfriend.
    Like 97% of the time, women only learn to cook once they've got a boyfriend.
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:29
    Re: #2
    Yagishiori's got that other 3% covered, then. (fellow idol known for being good at cooking)
    3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:23
    How does she keep her skin that flawless eating like that?
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:24
    I feel like cooking for herself would give her more stable, glowing skin.
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:24
    Tomorrow's meal is basically already decided too.
    Egg's fine, but she should at least toss in some green onion.
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:26
    Her personal life is pretty sloppy, lol.
    Her room gets so messy there's no floor space left, to the point her mom comes up to Tokyo just to clean it for her.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:28
    She's too busy to have the energy to cook for herself.
    Still, Tako-chan updating her blog anyway makes her an angel.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:28
    Plenty of carbs, protein, and fat to soak into that slender body of hers.
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:30
    Now that she's gotten busy,
    hope her kitchen and bathroom aren't in just as rough shape.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:31
    Even broke college students eat better than that.
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:31
    Never thought about it before, but I'm starting to like her more for this.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:34
    Just drizzle some soy sauce on seafood and call it healthy eating.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:34
    Hope she gets as good at cooking as Sayuki someday. (fellow idol known for her cooking skills)
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:34
    She probably just wants to eat fast and get to sleep as soon as she can.
    Not that I'd know, though.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:34
    Staying humble instead of living large even though she's popular — that's a likability boost.
    26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:36
    'Cracking an egg in' instead of just 'adding an egg' — now that's the proper way to phrase it.
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:36
    Is this that Gen Z 'time-performance' thing where cooking properly is a waste of time, so eating something slapped together is fine?
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:36
    Tako-chan doesn't seem like the type to head off to work straight from some guy's place, so she's probably fine.
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:38
    Busy or not, everyone goes through phases where they eat like this.
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:42
    This is just her lulling us into a false sense of security.
    Women living alone bring a boyfriend home before you know it.
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:42
    She's probably thinking the odd random meal covers her vitamins and iron intake, lol.
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:43
    I actually like that she's kind of a clumsy, lazy-around-the-house type.
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:43
    Her blog post about her go-to neighborhood Chinese diner the other day was so good, but the wolves totally skipped past it. ("wolves" = obsessive male fans)
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:59
    Re: #35
    I nearly cried reading that one.
    47AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:00
    Re: #35
    I think a thread did get made for it — you mean it just didn't get much traction?
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:51
    Seeing this thread made me eat only half a pack of Chicken Ramen, lol.
    Cracked an egg in.
    Not exactly good for you.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:53
    Tako-chan loves that Yakisoba Bento, after all. (Nissin's cup yakisoba product)
    42AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:56
    Frozen pork and green onion with mentsuyu,
    plus a chunk of curry roux and frozen udon — curry udon.
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:59
    Ever since she got that silky smooth hair,
    she's gotten kind of cute~
    46AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:00
    Someone recommend her the sukiyaki-style Chicken Ramen.
    No idea if it's actually good, though.
    48AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:00
    Are we even allowed to name-drop 'Chicken Ramen' like that?
    Guess sponsors other than Nissin need not apply?
    52AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:03
    Guess she's the microwave-instant-noodles type too.
    Makes sense, using the stove makes it hot.
    53AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:05
    The day an idol starts bragging about her cooking is the day it's over.

    Background and Key Points

    Tonight’s dinner was udon! White dashi and water, microwaved udon with a whole egg!

    Kudo Yua (“Tako-chan”) is a member of Juice=Juice, one of the flagship groups under Hello! Project (Up-Front’s idol management umbrella, home to Morning Musume, Angerme, and others). H!P idols are contractually expected to project a wholesome, disciplined image, and their personal blogs — hosted on Ameba (Ameblo), the dominant Japanese blogging platform for celebrities and idols — are one of the few unfiltered windows fans get into their daily lives outside of scripted media appearances. A post as mundane as a microwaved bowl of udon topped with an egg only becomes newsworthy because of that gap between the polished public image and the reality of a busy 20-something living alone, and because 5ch’s Hello! Project subforum treats even trivial blog updates as material worth dissecting in depth.

    The thread wasn’t really split on whether the meal was healthy — nearly everyone agreed it was a lazy, carb-heavy, nutritionally thin dinner. The actual divide was over what that says about her as a person: one camp read the sloppy cooking and reportedly messy room (post >>10, requiring her mother to come clean it) as evidence of a “single, unattached” domestic ineptitude they found endearing or even reassuring from a fan-possessiveness standpoint; the other camp saw it as a minor red flag for her health and skin, or even mildly disappointing for an idol.

    What outside readers likely miss is that comments like “she’s probably never had a boyfriend” aren’t really about her cooking skill at all — they reflect a genre-specific anxiety among devoted H!P fans (“wolves,” per post 35) who parse any sign of domestic self-sufficiency or independence as a proxy for relationship status, since dating scandals have historically ended idol careers or fandoms overnight.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Kudo Tako-chan’s Diet Is Basically That of a Single Middle-Aged Man wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • How Good Is Yuina Sugiyama, Really? 5ch: “A-Rank or Better in Both Singing and Dancing”

    Hello! Project’s new member Yuina Sugiyama has become a hot topic on 5ch, with users weighing in on her current dance and singing ability. Since she’s a K-pop-school-trained dancer with real experience, her dancing gets high marks — but opinions are split on her singing, with some calling it “still developing” and others saying “her voice type might not be able to reach the top tier.” The discussion expanded into comparisons with existing members and how well junior members tend to be accepted by fans.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:31
    Is it just that the kid is cute and that's carrying her? ("ガキンチョ" = a slightly teasing way of saying "little kid")
    3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:33
    For dancing she's a veteran — she trained for ages at a K-pop school — but singing's totally new to her.
    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:33
    I'd say she's A-rank or better in both singing and dancing.
    Whether she can reach S-rank, who knows.
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:35
    Watching her sing next to Sugai-chan, it didn't strike me as particularly bad.
    58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:30
    Re: #6
    Well, she's not at the level Sayu was when she'd just joined. ("Sayu" = fellow H!P member Sayumi Michishige's nickname, referencing her early days)
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:35
    Dancing looks like a non-issue.
    What about singing?
    Could she get up to Yamazaki/Shimakura/Takase level?
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:39
    Re: #7
    Given her voice type, that might be a stretch, don't you think?
    Though I'd love to see her get there.
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:35
    BEYOOOOONDS fans were basically on life support, so clinging to her is all they've got left.
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:36
    Didn't someone call her the "ace" or whatever?
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:38
    Her voice really projects.
    She's supposedly a hard worker in practice too, so the technique should catch up.
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:39
    Re: #1
    Dancing: excellent.
    Singing's still a work in progress, but she's got the guts to deliver her lines without getting shy — that's a plus.
    She really pops on stage.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:41
    If she's got that kind of vocal power, she's got the raw talent.
    Sugai-chan will probably bring her up to a level where she doesn't stick out awkwardly in BEYOOOOONDS.
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:44
    Like what happened with Juice=Juice, BEYOOOOONDS will probably lose its original members in a few more years,
    and she'll end up being the center.
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:44
    She looks like she might bolt.
    As for Yuna, though….
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:46
    Re: #18
    That's probably exactly why they're spoiling her rotten, to keep that from happening lol
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:50
    Is Hanakoji — an outsider who transferred in from another group — actually accepted by the fans? ("外様"/tozama = an idol who joined from elsewhere rather than debuting in the group)
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:53
    Re: #22
    Totally accepted.
    Great personality.
    26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:00
    Re: #22
    She's already turning into a popular member.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:51
    Singing too — Uu-tan sensei (a vocal coach's nickname) will drill it into her.
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:25
    Re: #23
    Oh no, that's bad lol
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:55
    Doing stage plays really does improve your vocal technique from the ground up.
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:17
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20260818/21/beyooooonds-blog/58/45/j/o1080144015813598249.jpg
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:24
    I heard she took over Hirai's part,
    but there's zero write-ups on it — did the fans not even bother going to see it?
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:31
    For dancing, she's got the knack to pick up whatever Hello! Project throws at her right away.
    Singing, no clue.
    43AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:36
    Matsunaga went full "Seino mode" (took on a blunt, unfiltered persona), but she's still popular, isn't she?
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:42
    The members who get hyped up on Ookami (a Hello! Project fan forum) tend to be the least impressive everywhere else.
    49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:42
    BEYOOOOONDS fans alone aren't enough to keep churning out viral, 10,000-retweet hits.
    52AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:47
    Morning Musume fans probably won't give Yuna-chan their stamp of approval.
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:59
    Re: #52
    They do approve — and honestly, they're jealous.
    They're not sold on her singing, but she can dance, has a great personality, and is upbeat — that's what they're jealous of.
    67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 15:53
    Re: #52
    Probably the same crowd that's been spamming YouTube comments saying they wished Yumeha had ended up in Morning Musume instead.
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 16:09
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HP-pBhGbQAAdPb0.jpg

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project (H!P) is the umbrella idol production founded around Morning Musume in the late 1990s, and it now oversees a family of subgroups that includes Juice=Juice and BEYOOOOONDS, the group Yuina Sugiyama recently joined. Fans commonly grade idols on an informal “S/A/B” scale — not an agency metric, just message-board shorthand for overall stage ability — which is why posts jump straight to ranking her without explaining what the letters mean. Names like Sayumi Michishige (an early Morning Musume member whose debut-era singing is a benchmark for “still developing”) and references to a K-pop training academy assume readers already know these are credibility markers within the fandom.

    The thread doesn’t actually split on dancing — her K-pop-school background settles that as a strength. The real disagreement is over singing: some posters hear untapped power that a strict in-house vocal coach can shape, while others argue her voice type simply may not suit the group’s top vocal parts, regardless of effort.

    What outsiders are likely to miss is that several posts (the “life support,” Ookami-forum, Morning Musume-fan-approval remarks) are really about BEYOOOOONDS’ comparatively small, anxious fanbase, not about Sugiyama herself — her popularity is being used as a proxy battle over the group’s visibility. The thread also never cites anything concrete — no age, debut date, discography, or actual vocal test results — so what reads as an assessment is entirely secondhand fan impression, not documented evidence.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “I’m curious about Yuina Sugiyama — how’s her performance being rated so far?.”

  • Machida Zelvia Close to Signing Japan Striker Koki Ogawa — Salary Over ¥300 Million, First Domestic Return in 3 Years

    It was reported on the 23rd that J1 side Machida Zelvia have all but finalized the signing of Japan national team striker Koki Ogawa (29, NEC in the Dutch Eredivisie). With word of a lucrative contract worth over ¥300 million ($2 million+) a year, along with mixed opinions about his World Cup goal against the Netherlands and his return to Japan after three years abroad, reactions on the forum thread were divided.

    Machida’s signing of Japan national team striker Koki Ogawa now all but decided — offered over ¥300 million a year, persistent courtship pays off… the striker who set up the equalizer against the Netherlands at the North/Central America World Cup

    It became all but certain on the 23rd that J1 club Machida will sign Japan national team striker Koki Ogawa (29), currently with NEC in the Dutch Eredivisie. An official announcement is expected in the near future.

    According to multiple sources, the club has offered Ogawa’s camp an estimated salary exceeding ¥300 million a year. This marks Ogawa’s first return to Japanese football since he left Yokohama FC in 2023, three years ago.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:00
    Already giving up on the next World Cup, huh?
    10AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:03
    Re: #2
    A 29-year-old riding the bench at NEC making the next World Cup squad is a stretch to begin with.
    Most Dutch NEC fans rated Ogawa below Shiogai anyway.
    4AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:01
    Feel bad for Ogawa — Kamada stole the spotlight from his goal.
    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:02
    Re: #4
    Kamada stole the spotlight from Tanaka Ao's goal too, come to think of it.
    6AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:02
    Guess he's satisfied just having a World Cup memory (lol)
    He never really produced results abroad anyway.
    9AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:03
    Guess Ogawa's ceiling really was just the Netherlands.
    11AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:04
    Re: #7
    What a fearsome 'goal thief'… if it weren't me, I'd have missed it. (riffing on the famous JoJo's Bizarre Adventure line "If it were anyone but me, I'd have missed it")
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:04
    He did well against the Netherlands, but he probably won't make the squad for the next World Cup anyway, so this is fine, I guess.
    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:04
    A guy at Ogawa's level pulling in over ¥300 million — that's the dream.
    15AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:06
    So in the end, every striker from this generation except Ueda has flamed out…
    16AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:06
    Re: #1
    Who?

    Is he more popular than Kazu and Mitoma in football circles?
    17AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:07
    If the next national team manager values domestic-league players too, he's still got a shot at the national team.
    20AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:09
    Re: #17
    No way.
    Don't disrespect the national team like that.
    18AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:08
    Re: #1
    So Ogawa's going to get 'Machida-fied' too, just like Soma, Masako, Sento, and Fujio? 🤣🤣
    19AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:09
    Three years ago when he was still in Japan he wasn't even making ¥100 million,
    and in the Netherlands he's been just a bit-part player,
    but score a goal (well, assist) at the World Cup and suddenly it's ¥300 million? Wild.
    21AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:10
    Re: #1
    Ah, so that's why there were reports of Fujio transferring to Kashiwa or Nagasaki.
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:11
    If it's Moriyasu, he'll probably get called up for the Asian Cup.

    But he won't get called up for Asian qualifiers anymore.
    76AnonymousAug 24, 2026 03:13
    Re: #22
    If anything, my impression is that Moriyasu has treated Ogawa pretty coldly.
    I mean, he started Machino against Brazil.
    23AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:11
    Re: #1
    There's also a chance he ends up washed up, like Takahara after coming back from the Bundesliga.
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:12
    Machida for the title, calling it now.
    27AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:13
    Re: #24
    Lol, this is the same crowd that was saying 'Cerezo's winning it' back in 2014, now predicting Machida for the title.
    25AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:12
    If we're still calling up guys like Ogawa, Ito, Taniguchi, and Mitoma four years from now, that's a problem in itself.


    Might as well call it a retirement home.
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:14
    One stint abroad and suddenly Ogawa's worth ¥300 million. Both Ogawa and his overseas club must be thrilled.
    30AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:15
    I'm actually from Machida, and honestly, despite all this money being poured into strengthening the team,
    most regular people just don't care that much.
    Such a waste.
    There are posters at the station with Soma front and center, but I doubt anyone even recognizes him.
    31AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:16
    Re: #1
    Such a nobody getting ¥300 million, lol.




    He's even less impressive than Satoteru or Nakano lmao (Satoteru = nickname for Hanshin Tigers slugger Teruaki Sato; Nakano = fellow Hanshin infielder Takumu Nakano)
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:19
    Re: #1
    Playing Soma and Ogawa together is weak.

    They were terrible at the Toulon Tournament too.

    That runner-up finish was basically thanks to Tanaka Ao, Hatate, and Obi anyway.
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:21
    Machida alone has 12 players earning over ¥100 million a year,
    so they'll probably win the title.
    42AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:24
    Re: #39
    That's not a prediction, that's just wishful thinking.
    41AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:23
    Baseball fanboys ('yakibuta' — a derisive nickname soccer fans use for baseball fans) love to whine about deficits, but football's business model is: revenue goes up, it gets poured straight into player salaries, and everyone gets rich together.
    Machida's leading the charge, but others will follow.
    Surpassing pro baseball is close.

    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1787505728657.jpeg
    48AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:28
    Re: #1
    Teruaki Sato — salary ¥450 million

    Takumu Nakano — salary ¥300 million



    Koki Ogawa — salary ¥300 million 🤣🤣


    Sato >>>>>> Nakano >>>>>>>>>> Ogawa (lol)



    Hanshin Tigers >>>>>>>>>>>> Machida Zelvia (lol)


    By the way, Morishita will probably hit ¥300 million too this offseason 🤣🤣
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:30
    Re: #48
    Naming a bunch of nobodies doesn't really prove anything.
    56AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:33
    Re: #48
    Guess we've reached the era where people bring up Hanshin salaries, red-faced and desperate, just to compete with J.League player salaries.
    In 10 years, every player on Machida Zelvia and Vissel Kobe will probably be making ¥300 million lol
    57AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:39
    Does this mean they don't need the guy who poured water on the penalty ball anymore?
    59AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:41
    Re: #57
    He was copying Ryunosuke's move.
    Not exactly a great example for kids.
    67AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:51
    He got frozen out at Nijmegen and waited for offers in Europe, but none came, probably.
    72AnonymousAug 24, 2026 02:59
    Re: #67
    Depends how you spin it.
    He fled Iwata, where the tactical demands were heavy, and produced results at Yokohama FC where he was let off the hook.
    But once he went to the Netherlands, he faced the same kind of demands as Iwata again and couldn't deliver — that's basically what happened.
    73AnonymousAug 24, 2026 03:00
    Why did Machida suddenly get famous?
    I hadn't even heard of them until around 2024.
    Surprised they're stronger than Urawa, Kawasaki, and Kashima now.
    75AnonymousAug 24, 2026 03:12
    Re: #73
    Because a wealthy owner took over management and went all in on reinforcements —
    coach, staff, players, everything.

    Background and Key Points

    Machida Zelvia only reached J1 in 2024, three years after a takeover by CyberAgent chairman Susumu Fujita, and their subsequent spending spree — reportedly a dozen-plus players now on eight-figure-yen deals — has made them the league’s most talked-about (and, to many older fans, most resented) club, associated as much with direct, set-piece-heavy football and gamesmanship controversies as with results. Koki Ogawa’s path is separate: he broke out at Yokohama FC in 2022 after struggling under Jubilo Iwata’s tactical demands, moved to Eredivisie side NEC Nijmegen in 2023, and became a fringe player there before appearing off the bench for Japan at the 2026 World Cup, where he was credited with setting up an equalizer against the Netherlands.

    The thread’s real disagreement isn’t about the transfer itself but about what that one World Cup contribution should be worth — several posters argue a squad player at a mid-table Dutch club shouldn’t command Machida’s reported ¥300 million-plus salary, while others treat the number as simply what a rich J1 club can now pay.

    What’s easy to miss from outside Japan is how unusual this figure still is: J.League salaries remain far below NPB baseball or Europe’s top divisions, so a ¥300 million deal is newsworthy precisely because it’s concentrated in one club’s ownership-driven spending rather than a league-wide trend. Also unstated in the thread is that national-team manager Hajime Moriyasu has reportedly used Ogawa sparingly since that World Cup moment, undercutting the idea that the goal contribution secured his international future.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread「[Football] J1 Machida’s signing of Japan national team striker Koki Ogawa now all but decided — official announcement coming soon… Offered over ¥300 million a year, persistent courtship pays off, first domestic return in 3 years」.

  • Yokohama High’s Starting Lineup Has Zero Players From Kanagawa — 5ch: ‘What’s Wrong With Baseball Transfers Anyway?’

    It’s become a hot topic on 5ch that not a single player in Yokohama High School’s baseball starting lineup is from Kanagawa Prefecture. The lineup features players recruited from other prefectures — three from Aichi, two from Saitama, and more — and the fact that several players came up through rubber-ball (nanshiki) baseball rather than the standard hardball youth leagues also drew attention, sparking debate over the pros and cons of “baseball transfer students.”

    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:04
    So you can make it to Yokohama coming up through rubber-ball baseball.
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:07
    Re: #2
    Naruse came from rubber-ball baseball too.
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:07
    Wonder how much money flowed to the recruiting brokers.
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:08
    Didn't realize it was this common these days
    No wonder Mabuchi's been sounding the alarm (veteran coach known for warning against over-recruiting).
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:09
    Re: #9
    Meitoku's got its own version of the problem too — they're signing kids while they're still in middle school, so that's questionable in its own way.
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:08
    Wasn't the DH, Ajiki, from the Izumi Chuo Boys club team?
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:10
    The batting order was different for the Hanamaki Higashi game, but having Chishima hitting 9th is scary.
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:11
    Slapping cheeks with stacks of cash to sign players — that's the Kanagawa style.
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:12
    They enrolled at Yokohama because they wanted to reach Koshien through it
    I honestly don't care if the roster's full of kids from other prefectures
    Signed, a Kanagawa native
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:12
    The bench and the guys who didn't make the roster are basically all Kanagawa kids 😂
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:13
    Wait, Oda's from Fukuoka?
    Now that you mention it, I can't even remember who represented Fukuoka this year lol
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:15
    Aichi: 3
    Saitama: 2
    Hyogo: 1
    Fukuoka: 1
    Saga: 1
    Kumamoto: 1
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:16
    Any school tangled up with Juice=Juice ends up like this (Hello! Project idol group — running joke on this board)
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:17
    Can't they just win with Kanagawa natives?
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:18
    Oh right, tomorrow's the semifinal
    Wonder if Tetsusaburo's starting.
    26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:21
    These days pitchers who came up through rubber-ball baseball often actually have less wear on their shoulders and elbows.
    27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:22
    There was a Chiba native on the team not too long ago, but they don't seem to be recruiting from there anymore.
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:32
    It's totally normal for colleges to recruit nationwide, so why is it not okay for high schools?
    67AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:31
    Re: #31
    Go count how many colleges there are versus how many high schools
    Besides, college baseball doesn't have this whole prefecture-vs-prefecture thing going on.
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:33
    A lot of Hello! Project members move to Tokyo from the countryside too.
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:34
    With colleges, you only get called a cheater once they start reaching overseas for recruits.
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:41
    They left home and spent three years grinding it out in Kanagawa — that makes them a proper Kanagawa resident, doesn't it?
    36AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:42
    Re: #34
    Lmao what a stretch of an argument.
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:42
    Oda hit a home run at Kitakyushu Municipal Stadium back in middle school
    I assumed that was hardball lol — if it was rubber-ball, that's terrifying power.
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:46
    Is spending three years at Yokohama High shagging balls and cheering from the bench actually better for your future college/job prospects than being a starter at your local high school?
    47AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:58
    Re: #39
    Shagging balls is the Kanagawa natives' job
    53AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:06
    Re: #47
    Kobayashi and Ajiki actually get regular playing time though.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:46
    Honestly, I don't even get what's supposed to be wrong with baseball transfer students in the first place.
    42AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:49
    Re: #1
    The only names I can actually read are cleanup hitter Haruto, No. 7 Yoshifumi, and No. 8 Taiga.
    43AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:50
    Last year they had a third baseman named Tamenaga who came from Yokohama Municipal Mutsukawa Junior High.
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:52
    Saying it like Saitama's fine because it's technically still in the Kanto region lol
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:53
    Most regular Kanagawa residents weren't rooting for Yokohama High in the first place, whether they knew this or not.
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:55
    With Hachinohe Gakuin Kosei, people welcome players from other regions because it spreads the real, Pacific-side picture of Aomori — the "huh, this isn't the Aomori I imagined" effect.
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 23:58
    Yokohama, Keio, Sagami — they're all recruiting nationwide, so worrying about where anyone's from is pointless.
    50AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:02
    High school baseball nerds bash rural schools for fielding a 'foreign legion' of recruits, but somehow never go after Yokohama or Osaka Toin — total double standard.
    52AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:04
    They say even in the pros, slightly more pitchers actually come from a rubber-ball background
    Compared to position players, hardball experience in middle school doesn't seem to give as much of an edge.
    62AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:23
    For reference:
    Nihon University Fujisawa
    Toko Gakuen
    Tokai University Sagami


    66AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:30
    Kind of sad there's nobody from the 'peanut prefecture' (Chiba, famous for its peanuts).
    70AnonymousAug 20, 2026 00:40
    Re: #66
    Going back further, Hanshin's Ito Sho is from Yokoshibahikari and Oikawa's from Sosa City
    Ito Sho played rubber-ball baseball at Yokoshibahikari Town's Yokoshiba Junior High, and two years behind him was Rakuten's Hayakawa, who went on to Kisarazu Sogo.

    Background and Key Points

    For non-Japanese readers, the backstory is Japan’s koshiki (hardball) high-school baseball system, which feeds the two national Koshien tournaments each summer and spring. Each prefecture sends one representative school (Tokyo sends two), chosen through a prefectural playoff — but Japan has no residency rule for public or private high schools, so a school’s “prefecture” is just where it’s located, not where its players are from. Elite programs like Yokohama High recruit nationally out of Boys League (hardball) or nanshiki (rubber-ball, the softer ball used in most school and community leagues) club teams, sometimes signing standout middle-schoolers years in advance. This has been standard practice at national powerhouses for decades, alongside “baseball scholarships” and boarding dorms.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether this happens — everyone agrees it’s routine — but on whether it’s legitimate. One camp says it’s no different from how colleges recruit nationwide, or how idol groups like Hello! Project pull talent from the countryside to Tokyo; the other calls it “buying” a roster with recruiter money and points out Meitoku’s practice of locking in middle schoolers as an even shadier version of the same thing.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that this isn’t a scandal or rule violation — no association bars it, and it’s arguably the norm at the sport’s top tier, which is exactly why the “double standard” complaint (posters note nobody criticizes Osaka Toin the same way) lands as unresolved rather than hypocritical.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Yokohama High School Baseball Team’s Starting Lineup… Zero Kanagawa Natives 😂.”

  • Video of a Katana Slicing a Paper Carton Sparks ‘Anyone Could Do That’ Reactions

    A thread on 5ch shared a video of someone slowly test-cutting a paper carton with a Japanese sword (katana). While some viewers were struck by how the blade was worked in with small, repeated motions instead of one swift slash, others gave a cooler response — “anyone could do that,” “even a kitchen knife could manage it” — sparking debate over just how sharp the blade really was.

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    Not what I expected

    Source: video.twimg.com / original post here

    2AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:32
    Wait, isn't it supposed to be one quick slash?!
    5AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:32
    For a second I thought there was coffee inside it
    8AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:34
    He's trying to look cool but he really isn't lol
    9AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:35
    Reminds me of Bucciarati getting punched (the famous 'gets beaten up' scene from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:37
    Re: #9
    The pain hits you in slow motion, delayed lol
    11AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:36
    Still, cutting through an empty, unsecured carton without knocking it over might actually show insane sharpness
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:37
    Some slacker old man scraping by doing street performances
    16AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:39
    I thought he was just holding his stance the whole time, but he'd already cut it lol
    17AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:39
    Kind of like those old warrior legends where a dragonfly lands on the blade and just splits in two on its own — does that kind of thing actually happen?
    19AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:40
    He's sawing it in with terrifyingly tiny little motions
    Only someone as sharp-eyed as me would even catch that
    20AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:43
    This is the thing people do before and after sharpening a kitchen knife
    21AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:43
    Wait, he's doing it slowly?! lolololol
    22AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:43
    Before I knew it, it was already cut clean in half
    25AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:44
    Well, it's not easy, but a katana's edge should manage at least this much
    27AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:45
    Cutting it slowly is actually the harder part, but this isn't really what I wanted to see
    28AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:45
    Anyone could do this lol
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:02
    Re: #28
    Seems doable once you get the knack for it lol
    29AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:45
    If this were an iaido quick-draw, you guys would just complain it's too fast to see
    31AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:46
    Videos of sword draws too fast for the camera to catch show up now and then
    34AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:48
    I used to love those old Katori Shinto-ryu (a classical Japanese swordsmanship school) videos on Niconico, watched them over and over
    36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:49
    I thought I was going to see some inhuman, otherworldly technique like Kogan-ryu (the brutal fictional sword style from the manga Vagabond)…
    37AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:50
    Cutting it slowly is actually the impressive part
    There's no way I could ever pull that off
    39AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:51
    Some people are saying it's just moving under the sword's own weight
    41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 22:53
    Deep down he's probably just dying to cut an actual person
    43AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:00
    I was expecting him to cut a small slit at the spout
    47AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:04
    Turns out there's no real back-and-forth sawing going on
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:17
    There are similar videos out there for sharpening kitchen knives
    51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:25
    He's just adjusting where he applies force so it doesn't tip over
    53AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:32
    Does a katana only show its true sharpness in the hands of a master?
    I wonder if every samurai back in the day had the skill to bring that out
    55AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:35
    They say you have to draw the blade to cut
    Well, that's true for paper anyway
    56AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:35
    In real combat it was probably more thrusting than slashing
    57AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:42
    Apparently it was more like beating people to death than cutting them
    Like clubbing them with something more like an iron rod
    58AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:43
    Lol, but wait — could this actually be an AI-generated video?
    62AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:48
    I wonder what would happen with an OLFA box cutter (a popular Japanese utility knife brand)
    63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:49
    Being able to cut it slowly without knocking over a light, empty carton is probably the impressive part
    64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:49
    No way a kitchen knife could do that
    Just think about it for a second
    65AnonymousAug 23, 2026 23:50
    I have cut a worthless thing again (the famous line from Rurouni Kenshin)

    Background and Key Points

    Tameshigiri, the practice of test-cutting with a katana, has roots in Edo-period sword appraisal, when blades were tested on rolled tatami mats, bamboo, or even, historically, condemned criminals’ corpses, to certify a smith’s work and a swordsman’s technique. A rolled or soaked tatami mat is the modern standard because its fiber density is said to approximate human flesh resistance; a dry paper carton, by contrast, offers almost no resistance, which is exactly why the video split opinion. Katana blades are ground to an extremely acute, single-bevel edge (often under 15 degrees), very different from a Western kitchen knife’s more obtuse double bevel, so the “any knife could do this” comparisons posters made aren’t quite apples to apples, even if a sharp kitchen knife genuinely could slice an empty carton.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t sharpness versus dullness, but interpretation of technique: some posters saw slow, deliberate pressure as proof of a bladeless-looking, unimpressive cut (“anyone could do that”), while others (37, 63) argued that cutting slowly, without toppling a light, unsecured, empty box, is actually the harder technical feat, since a fast slash would use momentum to stabilize the target while a slow draw relies purely on edge geometry and controlled force.

    What the thread never engages with is that real historical sword combat, unlike choreographed test-cuts, involved armor, thrusting, and blunt trauma far more than clean slashes (briefly noted at 56-57), and that the dragonfly-splits-itself legend mentioned in the thread is folklore, not a documented phenomenon, even for legendary blades like Masamune’s.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Video] A Katana Test-Cut Slicing a Paper Carton in One Stroke Is Insanely Impressive!!!!!!!!!!!“.