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  • Bread and Chicken Liver Illegally Dumped Near Mt. Daisen, Tottori — 5ch: “That’s Literally Bear Baiting”

    Along a prefectural road inside Mt. Daisen National Park in Tottori Prefecture, roughly 40 kilograms of loaves of bread and chicken liver were found illegally dumped over the course of five days. Bear sightings have been reported repeatedly in the area, fueling speculation that the dumping is an attempt to lure bears with food.

    On 5ch, users traded theories about who was behind the dumping and why, and one comparison drew particular attention: that it resembles the “baiting” technique used in American bear hunting.

    Day after day, “large quantities of bread” and “chicken liver” illegally dumped along a prefectural road inside Mt. Daisen National Park… about 40kg over five days. “A purpose completely different from ordinary illegal dumping” — bear sightings reported in the area… risk of leading to feeding behavior

    Published 8/20 (Thu) 19:20

    BSS San’in Broadcasting

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:00
    Don't tell me they're trying to lure bears all the way to Tokyo?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:04
    This bread looks like it'd run about ¥800 a loaf,
    so that's ¥8,000 for ten loaves.
    Are they really spending that kind of money just to pull this off?
    At first I figured it was just unsold bread being dumped.
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:08
    Re: #10
    Probably unsold stock or bread past its sell-by date.
    Has to be someone connected to bread manufacturing or sales.
    117AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:08
    Re: #10
    It's a manufacturer illegally dumping it, I bet.
    Disposing of industrial waste costs real money for a factory.
    Probably one of those premium bread shops that sprang up like weeds for a while —
    business must be struggling.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:05
    I feel like there's an "Ōyamauchi" over in Mie Prefecture.
    55AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:22
    Re: #12
    That's Ōuchiyama, not Ōyama —
    known for its milk and a zoo.
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:05
    Might track them down by looking for someone nearby who bought a ton of bread.
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:17
    Re: #15
    Probably discarded bread —
    either a waste collector or someone who bought it off a vendor.
    187AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:49
    Re: #15
    I'm a local, and I've got a pretty good idea whose it is.
    There's video too, so now it's just a matter of gathering the rest of the evidence.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:05
    Probably the "poor bears" crowd, huh.
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:22
    Re: #16
    If it were about animal welfare, they wouldn't feed bears raw chicken in the middle of summer — that's basically poisoning them lol.
    It's just illegal dumping.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:07
    This is probably returned bread from a delivery order.
    I used to work that kind of job — if a batch came out too hard, the whole run had to be rebaked.
    Returned loaves got sold to employees for ¥100 each, but a good chunk of it still ended up thrown away.
    174AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:32
    Re: #20
    These days if you post "please help" on social media, freeloaders would swarm and it'd be gone in no time.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:07
    Could it be a foreign tourist staying at a minpaku (private home-stay rental) dumping leftover food before flying home?
    99AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:49
    Re: #21
    There's no demand for minpaku rentals in Tottori.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:10
    If it were an individual they'd be arrested in a heartbeat, but with a company this kind of thing just gets quietly overlooked.
    Given the quantity, it's got to be a company.
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:28
    Re: #28
    A company could offload it through livestock farmers, so this is probably beneath that — an individual.
    Oversized loaves of bread are a specialty item, so it should be easy to trace.
    Pair that with the chicken liver and you can narrow it down further.
    Near Mt. Daisen in Tottori, the only nearby city is Yonago, plus the Genghis Khan (grilled mutton) restaurants up on Mt. Hiruzen.
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:30
    Fine, maybe the bread is just leftover stock from an order mistake being tossed out — but what's with the chicken liver?
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:36
    Re: #66
    A bakery might well have liver pâté lying around.
    90AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:43
    Over on Yahoo comments, which are full of dubious claims, there were a few comments from self-proclaimed bread artisans or bakery workers speculating it might be practice bread — for some kind of certification exam? — made with expired flour and then dumped.
    But if the chicken liver is part of the same set, that theory doesn't hold up as well.
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:45
    Re: #90
    I could buy that if it were just tossed and abandoned, but it was placed at even intervals, deliberately out in the open — so that theory doesn't fly.
    102AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:52
    There's got to be a security camera around there somewhere.
    Hurry up and give them the death penalty.
    104AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:53
    Re: #102 Wouldn't there be an N-System (automatic license-plate reader) nearby or something?
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:55
    A local TV station actually brought the bread back to the studio to film it.
    Zooming in on what looks like moldy bread and broadcasting it into people's living rooms — that's some tone-deaf reporting.
    123AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #107
    Wait, it had mold on it?
    Fuji TV's morning show "Mezamashi" described it as "baked up nice and fluffy" lol.
    114AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:05
    Rich people who've lost the plot never do anything good.
    118AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:10
    Re: #114
    If anything, they're probably just cheaping out on proper waste disposal costs.
    The chicken liver's probably an ingredient for some kind of sandwich pâté too.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #54
    Bears are carrion eaters, so they'll eat it even somewhat rotten.
    151AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:11
    Re: #124
    True enough.
    Plenty of bears seem to prefer rotten meat,
    so this really does look like deliberate, intentional feeding by a person.
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:28
    This might not be feeding at all — could be the same crowd that puts out poisoned bait for animals.

    Somebody should run a toxicology test on it.
    135AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:34
    Re: #131
    Could it actually be for extermination purposes?
    145AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:00
    This probably isn't the only spot.
    I won't say it's everywhere, but I'd bet quite a few people are scattering bait like this in various places.
    197AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:18
    Re: #145
    It's just too strange that bears would suddenly start showing up near people, simultaneously, in so many places, over just the past few years — that can't be coincidence,
    not unless deliberate feeding like this is going on.
    184AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:46
    There was a comment noting how similar this is to overseas baiting-style hunting:

    > In Maine, USA, bear hunters start setting out bait in August, and the method here — leaving out huge amounts of bread for days, then adding strong-smelling liver later — is oddly similar.
    Though even in the places where it's practiced legitimately, there are rules: keep it away from roads, post signage, get the landowner's permission, etc.

    So maybe it really is bait after all.
    194AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:00
    Re: #184
    You can't shoot a bear once you've lured it somewhere with people nearby, so…
    it does seem to be based on the logic of luring them in, apparently.
    202AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:37
    Re: #184
    It's not just similar — it's literally the same thing.

    Background and Key Points

    Mt. Daisen sits inside a national park in Tottori Prefecture, one of the regions that has recorded a sharp rise in Asiatic black bear (tsukinowaguma) sightings over the past several years, as poor acorn and beech-nut harvests push bears down from the mountains toward roads and farmland. Illegal dumping itself is a criminal matter under Japan’s Waste Management Act regardless of intent, which is why posters kept circling back to who had a plausible commercial reason to discard 40kg of bread — a bakery, a delivery service handling returns, or an industrial waste problem someone wanted to avoid paying to solve properly.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t whether this was suspicious — everyone agreed placing bread and chicken liver at regular intervals along a road was deliberate — but whether the motive was economic (cheap disposal of unsellable stock) or environmental (someone trying to bait bears, either to help them or, per the poisoning theory, to kill them). The Maine comparison pushed the “intentional lure” reading furthest, though even that commenter noted legal baiting there requires permits, distance from roads, and posted signage — conditions this site plainly didn’t meet.

    What the thread doesn’t spell out for outside readers is that baiting is not a recognized or legal method of bear management in Japan at all; there’s no equivalent hunting-license category for it as there is in Maine. So any “baiting” here, welfare-motivated or not, sits entirely outside Japan’s actual regulatory framework for handling nuisance bears, which relies on live traps and licensed cull hunts, not food lures — making this dump either reckless amateur intervention or, as several posters suspected, an attempt to draw bears toward people intentionally.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Tottori] Bread and Chicken Liver Illegally Dumped Day After Day Inside Mt. Daisen National Park… About 40kg Over Five Days… Bear Sightings Reported in the Area… Risk of Leading to Feeding Behavior.”

  • Gindaco Octopus Balls Do Have Shops in Osaka, Too — 5ch: “It’s Just Tourists Eating There”

    A post asking “Is it true that even Osakans eat Gindaco?” drew responses from Osaka residents on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (Live News) board.

    Commenters pointed out that Gindaco locations in Osaka are concentrated inside shopping malls, so they’re rarely spotted around town, and that the company’s headquarters is actually in Gunma Prefecture. The thread also spiraled into a taste showdown between local takoyaki shops and Gindaco.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:38
    Any Osakans here?
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:39
    Of course they eat it
    The stores haven't gone out of business, have they
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:40
    Re: #3
    Oh…
    Guess they're eating it in secret then
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:41
    Re: #5
    It's just tourists eating it
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    Re: #5
    It's a store, I don't get why they'd need to hide it
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:40
    Tonkin folks (a mocking Kansai nickname for Tokyoites) probably don't know the joy of shoveling down white rice with truly delicious takoyaki as a side
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:48
    Re: #8
    I love that "this is exactly what a takoyaki set meal should be" feeling
    People in eastern Japan who only know Gindaco's flavor probably can't appreciate it
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:49
    Re: #32
    I don't want to eat something like that
    You wouldn't even need rice with it
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    Tonkin people really do love Gindaco, huh
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:45
    Re: #13
    Even though Gindaco is from Gunma
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    Tourists are the ones least likely to eat Gindaco in Osaka — you can get it anywhere in the country
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:43
    Re: #14
    Tonkin people have taste buds that think 'Osaka takoyaki is bad,' so even when they visit, all they can eat is Gindaco
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    You come to realize that the takoyaki grilled by an Osaka auntie at a street stall is the best
    60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:56
    Re: #16
    This
    The one from the old lady at the candy shop was delicious
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:46
    In Osaka, Gindaco shops basically only exist inside big shopping malls (the only exception is the Shin-Osaka location in Nishinakajima, which sits outside a mall)
    So unless you have a reason to go to a mall, there's never really a trigger to eat Gindaco
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:46
    Re: #28
    Yeah, it's common in food courts
    71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:03
    Re: #28
    There's one at Takatsuki Station too
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:55
    La Muu (a discount supermarket chain) is where it's at
    Gindaco's out of the question, honestly

    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:56
    I had takoyaki from a shop called Kukuru at Tokyo Solamachi and it was delicious
    Is it famous in Osaka?
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:57
    Re: #61
    If you don't know it, you're basically a fake Osakan
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:58
    Re: #66
    Whoa
    It was pricey, but it was gooey and delicious
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:04
    I won't say it's bad, but it's way too expensive
    And once it cools down, the oil seeps through and it turns into a disgustingly greasy mess
    No need to buy it
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:04
    Re: #72
    Kukuru's the one that's expensive
    77AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:05
    Re: #73
    Is there anyone who actually goes to Kukuru?
    86AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:16
    Re: #77
    Re: #66
    Seems like it's on the level of getting called a 'fake Osakan' if you don't know it
    92AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:23
    Re: #86
    It's about on the level of a Tokyoite not knowing Hidakaya (a cheap noodle/Chinese food chain)
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:29
    Gindaco is standardized into a manual so that anyone (even foreign staff) can make it — 'not bad, but not especially delicious either' is the correct take. If you want to say the crispy texture is what makes it good, that's just a matter of personal taste
    102AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:31
    Re: #98
    Osaka's takoyaki shops are full of foreign staff these days too, you know
    I went to Wanaka in Shin-Osaka the day before yesterday and everyone working there was foreign
    104AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:34
    Re: #98
    Can't you just make Osaka-style takoyaki at home?
    106AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:34
    Re: #102
    Gindaco actively hires foreign workers as a policy (there are even foreign staff in management)
    Osaka has the highest density of takoyaki shops per square area anywhere — go check out some other independent takoyaki shops before you say that
    118AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:43
    Re: #106
    So when people say 'Osaka takoyaki,' does that mean independent shops? Are the famous chains not 'real' Osaka then?
    I went to the recommended spots — Wanaka, Kukuru, Koga-ryu — and I'm pretty sure they all had foreign staff too
    111AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:37
    Having lived in both Kagawa and Osaka, I've come to think udon and takoyaki don't actually vary that much in flavor, so national chains like Hanamaru Udon and Gindaco are pretty solid too
    So what's the appeal of eating them in Kagawa or Osaka specifically? I think it's that you can get cheap, consistently good udon or takoyaki at basically any shop
    114AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:38
    Re: #111
    I don't know about Kagawa's udon, but Osaka's takoyaki has gotten pricey lately
    113AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:38
    Honestly, there don't seem to be that many takoyaki shops in Osaka that can actually beat Gindaco
    People look down on the deep-fried style, but if you ran a blind taste test with the general public against most shops, they'd probably lose
    116AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:39
    Re: #113
    The way people hedge with 'that's not real takoyaki' or 'it's too expensive' basically means they're admitting defeat
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:56
    What happens if you put yakisoba noodles into okonomiyaki in Osaka?
    129AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:58
    Re: #124
    That's called 'modan-yaki' (modern-style okonomiyaki)
    It's delicious as its own distinct dish
    By the way, a lot of shops toss in the yakisoba without seasoning it separately beforehand, but the shops that season the noodles separately before layering them under the okonomiyaki somehow taste better

    Background and Key Points

    Gindaco’s full name is “Ganso Osaka Takoyaki Gindaco” (“Original Osaka Takoyaki Gindaco”), a branding choice that borrows Osaka’s culinary identity even though the chain, operated by Hotland Co., was founded and is headquartered in Gunma Prefecture, deep in the Kanto region far from Osaka. That gap between the name and the geography is exactly what one poster flags when noting Gindaco is “from Gunma,” and it matters because Osaka takoyaki is a genuinely dense, competitive local food culture — countless independent stalls and shops, often run by longtime owners, compete on small margins in a city famous for having more takoyaki shops per square kilometer than almost anywhere else in Japan.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t “do Osakans eat Gindaco” (commenters agree they do, mostly in mall food courts) but whether Gindaco’s mass-produced, manualized product can actually compete on taste with Osaka’s independent shops. One camp calls it merely serviceable, propped up by nostalgia and hedging about “authenticity”; another argues that in a blind taste test, most small Osaka shops would lose to Gindaco, framing complaints about price or “realness” as concession rather than critique.

    What the thread never quite settles is that the “authentic vs. chain” divide it keeps invoking is already blurry: commenters note that famous, well-regarded Osaka chains like Wanaka, Kukuru, and Koga-ryu now also rely heavily on foreign staff, the same practice used to dismiss Gindaco as inauthentic. Readers unfamiliar with Japan’s service-sector labor shortage may not realize that staffing patterns say little about a shop’s regional pedigree or recipe.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Is it true that even Osakans eat Gindaco?”.

  • Rakuten Teams Up With German Defense Startup Helsing to Build Attack Drones Domestically — 5ch: “Merchants of death!”

    It has been reported that Rakuten Group is partnering with German defense startup Helsing, supporting the introduction of attack drones for the Ground Self-Defense Force and pushing toward domestic production.

    On the thread, discussion spread over both the discomfort of seeing Rakuten enter the defense industry and a broader technical debate about whether Japan’s drone and AI technology really lags behind foreign players.

    Rakuten Group is partnering with German defense startup Helsing. It will support introducing Helsing’s attack drones in Japan, including proposing them to the Ground Self-Defense Force, and is also considering domestic production of the drones in Japan.

    Since the war in Ukraine, drones have increasingly become a primary weapon that can decide the course of a battle. In late October, German Chancellor Merz is set to make his first visit to Japan, planning to meet Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi to discuss security and other topics. Defense cooperation between Japan and Germany is starting to take shape.

    Company valued at just under 3 trillion yen, also supplies the German military

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 17, 2026 14:58
    Domestic production is fine, so we don't have to buy from Germany.
    4AnonymousAug 17, 2026 15:02
    Something about it being Rakuten just feels kind of unreliable.
    8AnonymousAug 17, 2026 15:38
    Re: #1
    A humanoid robot torpedo — let's get Rakuten to build one.
    10AnonymousAug 17, 2026 15:41
    If it's Germany, shouldn't it be the Last Battalion, not Helsing? (a nod to the Nazi remnant group in the Hellsing anime)
    12AnonymousAug 17, 2026 15:55
    Is there any military left these days that doesn't use drones?
    17AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:09
    Attack-type❔
    Another article says it's for interception.
    18AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:13
    Bring on the drone panda mascot already!
    19AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:20
    So Tencent's going to be protecting us now?
    That's basically already happening, isn't it.
    20AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:26
    Don't care about Rakuten either way, but given today's armed conflicts, developing and producing drones domestically is a must.
    21AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:28
    Rename it 'Kukai Group' [Sea of Suffering] — you merchants of death! (a pun on Rakuten, which means "paradise")
    23AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:41
    Stop buying the world's priciest, worst-performing gear just because Mitsubishi gets handed a sole-source contract every time.
    The MRJ's failure is said to come down to Mitsubishi's arrogance, complacency, and corporate culture.
    Monju still isn't running.
    Car tires fly off.
    Helicopters go down.
    Ships snap in half in the Indian Ocean.
    Losing shipbuilding to South Korea stings.
    Whatever they touch domestically, they end up 4th or 5th rate.
    Cut out the weak companies that just live off government contracts.
    Grow up-and-coming startups through open bidding.
    Run competitive bids among multiple companies so they push each other to improve.
    Bring costs down.

    Build a defense industry that can actually compete globally.
    24AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:42
    Japan's defense industry can't compete globally.
    Hand out amakudari posts and political favors, and the work rolls in even while you're asleep.
    This corrupt structure is exactly what's ruining Japan's defense industry — and by extension, it's a national crisis.

    Make defense procurement open bidding.
    Stop the world's priciest sole-source contracts that always go to Company M [Mitsubishi].

    In the Pacific War, one hit and the plane would burst into flames and go down.
    We lost because of Mitsubishi's junk Zero fighters.
    Grumman vs. Zero kill ratio: 200 planes to 5,000.
    Don't repeat history.
    25AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:46
    Did some Rakuten Mobile fanboy just show up declaring 'total victory'??
    26AnonymousAug 17, 2026 16:49
    Nissan should do this too.
    Renault's already started.
    28AnonymousAug 17, 2026 17:06
    Drones are already being made all over the world — what's the point of using German ones at this stage?
    Even Subaru is pitching unmanned fighters to the Ministry of Defense.
    Mitsubishi Heavy and Kawasaki Heavy have nearly finished 6th-gen 'wingman' aircraft packed with smart AI, and linking them up with the F-35 is right around the corner — this is Japan's home turf.
    Our civilian electronics tech isn't just for show.
    31AnonymousAug 17, 2026 18:14
    Re: #28
    If you don't know anything about military stuff, maybe just stay quiet lol

    Germany's HELSING is a world leader in drones and AI, and Germany itself is a top-tier country too.
    (HELSING built the CA-1 Europa, which rivals America's CCA collaborative combat aircraft — but while the US military's CCA is generally paired with a manned aircraft, the CA-1 Europa can fly into enemy territory and strike on its own, or handle air-superiority missions solo.)

    Do you seriously think the US is the only one supplying onboard AI tech to Ukraine?

    The attack drones "HF-1" and "HX-2" that Ukraine calls domestically made (Ukraine just got listed as a co-developer) were actually supplied by Germany's HELSING.
    Both use AI for autonomous decision-making, so they don't need radio guidance — which means jamming doesn't work on them.
    34AnonymousAug 17, 2026 19:01
    Re: #28
    Also, the brain behind that so-called 'wingman' drone Mitsubishi Heavy and Kawasaki Heavy are pitching is US company Shield AI's 'Hivemind' — Japan didn't develop it lol.

    (Whether the whole 'Loyal Wingman' concept is even feasible, and how much of the mission it's allowed to handle, is entirely up to the US lol. Hard to imagine the US giving up its tech sovereignty, so some kind of functional restrictions are pretty likely.)

    Japanese companies don't have the technical chops — they can build the airframe but AI is beyond them lol (generative AI is their specialty though, as in their usual move of… copying, chasing whatever everyone else already did lol).

    Hivemind is the AI that went 5-0 — and dominated — in simulated dogfights against manned fighters (flown by actual instructors). That's not something Japan could ever hope to match, so, well, can't be helped lol.
    37AnonymousAug 17, 2026 19:18
    Re: #28
    Japan's 'home turf' civilian electronics tech — you mean stuff like the My Number system or the COCOA app, right? lol

    Real impressive technology there, seriously lol.

    Even on the GCAP fighter program, Italy's Leonardo chairman basically said 'only the UK and Italy hold the core technology' lol.
    29AnonymousAug 17, 2026 17:24
    Re: #1
    Rakuten playing at being a political crony/war profiteer isn't going to last.
    30AnonymousAug 17, 2026 17:59
    Nobody ever said the SDF is actually buying it lol
    32AnonymousAug 17, 2026 18:30
    Re: #31
    Part of that misunderstanding comes from the media calling them 'drone companies' in the first place.
    Take Anduril — it releases various drones as a byproduct of vertical integration, but at its core are AI-based command-and-control, decision-making, and edge-AI autonomous-behavior technologies and products.
    It's more accurate to say they're building something like Skynet.
    33AnonymousAug 17, 2026 18:34
    Rakuten, in the defense industry??
    This has gotta be a joke, come on.
    41AnonymousAug 17, 2026 20:50
    Ukraine is training to carry robot soldiers in by drone and release them for an assault.
    The dominant robot-soldier design is four-legged and weapon-mounted, combining a human upper body with a horse-like body — basically a centaur type (they call it 'Cheiron').

    The Ground Self-Defense Force is apparently adopting Kawasaki's Korleo too — Japan should bolt on an armed human upper body and go full centaur-type (Cheiron) autonomous weapon as well.

    Robots drop from drones — Ukraine carries out the world's first 'unmanned airborne assault'

    The next stage of warfare has arrived: an era where robots carried by drones (unmanned aircraft) attack from the air. Ukraine recently carried out what is, as far as is known, the first such attack in the world. This opens up new possibilities for unmanned systems working together to carry out missions that were previously impossible.

    https://forbesjapan.com/articles/detail/102282

    Kawasaki Heavy Industries' four-legged robot 'Korleo' — prototype coming in 2028, chasing the fun of actually riding it

    https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUC272ZT0X20C26A7000000/
    47AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:43
    Re: #41
    Let me know once that junky robot dog thing actually collapses the Surovikin Line and busts a path through to Crimea.
    79AnonymousAug 18, 2026 17:53
    According to the Japanese edition of the Wall Street Journal, Rakuten is only saying it has secured the hardware — the actual trials with the Ground Self-Defense Force will apparently be run by an undisclosed partner company. Might all be classified.

    Makes you wonder what kind of connections Rakuten has to be pulling in something this sketchy from wherever it's coming from.
    94AnonymousAug 18, 2026 21:32
    Re: #79
    "Makes you wonder what kind of connections Rakuten has to be pulling in something this sketchy from wherever it's coming from."

    Actually, Rakuten has been supporting six Ukrainian defense startups — Dwarf Engineering, Farsight Vision, Griselda, Lifesaver Sim, Swarmer, and Skyfall Industries (Skyfall's probably the best known of the bunch) — with their business expansion and exhibitions in Japan.

    That connection is probably how they linked up with Germany.

    HELSING is already supplying Ukraine with over 6,000 of these onboard-AI drones (jamming-proof), delivering several hundred a month.
    106AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:50
    There's a Rakuten boycott trending on social media over the attack drones, but I don't get why Masayoshi Son — who owns ARM — isn't getting any flak.
    111AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:20
    Re: #106
    Even Son wouldn't go this blatant, surely.
    114AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:49
    Their mobile business is in trouble, after all.
    Classic case of clinging to the government for a lifeline.
    117AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:49
    Re: #114
    Pathetic that this is what you resort to when you're strapped for cash.

    Background and Key Points

    Rakuten is best known in Japan as an e-commerce and telecom conglomerate whose loss-making Rakuten Mobile arm has strained the group’s finances for years; its move into defense procurement is a sharp departure from that consumer-facing brand. Helsing, valued at nearly 3 trillion yen, is a German AI-defense firm that already supplies the Bundeswehr and has delivered thousands of jamming-resistant, AI-guided drones to Ukraine under names like HX-2 and HF-1 — systems Kyiv has publicized as “domestically made” despite German origin. Japan’s Ground Self-Defense Force operates under a procurement system long dominated by sole-source contracts with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, a arrangement posters tie to past failures like the MRJ jet program and the Monju reactor, and which upcoming Japan-Germany defense talks around Chancellor Merz’s October visit could start to loosen.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t about drones generally — it’s whether Japan’s AI and autonomous-systems capability is genuinely behind Germany’s, or whether Japanese firms like Kawasaki and Mitsubishi are already competitive. That argument gets undercut from within the thread itself: posters note the “wingman” drone program touted as Japanese uses Shield AI’s American Hivemind software, meaning even the domestic showcase project isn’t domestically built at the AI layer.

    What the thread leaves underexplained is Rakuten’s actual role: by its own account it has been supporting Ukrainian defense startups’ business expansion in Japan, which plausibly explains the Helsing link, and a Nikkei report cited mid-thread indicates Rakuten has only secured hardware access while an undisclosed partner would run any actual GSDF trials — a much narrower position than “Rakuten builds attack drones.”

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Business News+) thread “[Corporate] Rakuten pushes attack drones, advancing GSDF deployment and domestic production — partners with major German startup.”

  • Shared Medical Records with AI Developers Without Consent? Petition Against Privacy Law Loophole Tops 30,000 Signatures

    Under a special provision of Japan’s revised Personal Information Protection Act, sensitive data such as medical history can now be shared without the individual’s consent, provided the purpose is AI development or statistical research. In response, an online petition calling for operational safeguards has gathered more than 30,000 signatures.

    On 5channel, opinions split over whether data is really being handed over complete with names and addresses, and just how thoroughly it’s actually anonymized. Posts citing Diet testimony — in which Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara and Minister Matsumoto reportedly said that stripping out personally identifiable information is “difficult in practice” — fueled growing unease about what this law change really means on the ground.

    “My information, shared without my knowledge…” The woman behind the petition calling for “operational safeguards” on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision: Tokyo Shimbun Digital

    August 18, 2026, 06:00 — Article for paid subscribers only

    An online petition calling for operational safeguards on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision — which allows sensitive information such as medical history to be shared without the individual’s consent for the purposes of AI development or statistical research — has gathered more than 30,000 signatures.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:04
    Apps like LINE have been leaking all kinds of our data for ages, why act shocked now?
    If something's free, there's a reason.
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #8
    Unlike your average, not-too-careful LINE user, the people speaking up this time — folks who go to the hospital a lot — might just be the type who sweats the details.
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:09
    It's not like anyone can actually be identified from it though, right?
    Is that ambiguity itself the thing people are pushing back against?
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:18
    Re: #15
    No, it's handed over complete with address and name attached.
    Akira Nagatsuma raised this in the Diet, and Kihara admitted that removing that info isn't technically feasible.
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:10
    No, it's fine since personally identifiable info gets stripped out first.
    Big-data analysis might surface side effects that clinical trials never caught — like "people who take this drug tend to get this reaction."
    23AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:12
    Re: #18
    I saw in the news that names get handed over in the data as-is, unredacted.
    36AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #18
    You really think that rule actually gets followed?
    Way too naive.
    48AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:19
    Re: #18
    Even if it's handed over in a state that's just barely non-identifiable, it can still be pieced together like a jigsaw puzzle with data from past leaks to reconstruct the full picture.
    And it's the people with the least "value" who are easiest to exploit for crime.
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:13
    More than that —
    isn't it terrifying that raw personal data of every kind ends up piled up at specific companies?
    Nobody's watching what they actually do with it internally lol
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #26
    Seriously, this.
    There are already plenty of sketchy companies as it is.
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:16
    Re: #26
    Isn't it fine as long as it's not illegal?
    34AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #23
    Is that actually true?
    Standard practice is to "sanitize" (strip out personally identifiable info) before turning data into big data.
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:20
    Re: #34
    Also, the information handed over isn't the final "statistical data" itself — at the stage where raw data moves from the source to the recipient, it may still contain names and addresses. Processing it into a non-identifiable form only happens at the final output stage.

    And yet vetting of the recipient organizations is lax, basically running on the honor system.
    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:25
    Re: #34
    In Diet questioning, Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara said it's not feasible to strip out personally identifiable info like address and name.
    90AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:27
    What actual harm comes from handing over someone's hospital visit history?
    95AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:28
    Re: #90
    Well, if you're a woman, having a gynecological condition exposed would be pretty embarrassing.
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:30
    Re: #90
    Insurance could shift away from uniform premiums based on the law of large numbers
    toward extreme risk-segmentation at the individual level.

    AI could also end up taking over the role background-check agencies play in employment and marriage discrimination.
    104AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:30
    Re: #92
    No, I don't think that's really the main purpose — there's no real use value in the names themselves.
    The point of big data is analyzing relationships/correlations,
    so if names are used at all it's probably just to avoid duplicate entries. They should just swap it for some other identifier so individuals can't be identified.
    112AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:31
    Re: #104
    Real names aren't necessary for big data.
    So the fact that they stubbornly refuse to strip real names out means that's exactly where the real purpose lies.
    126AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:34
    Re: #112
    What exactly do you mean by "that"? What kind of personal-data use are you imagining?
    Big data's main purpose is trend analysis —
    like "taking this drug causes this side effect,"
    or whether there's regional variation in disease based on address.
    Names are probably just there to avoid double-counting duplicate entries, so a number or code would work just as well.
    130AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:35
    Re: #126
    The standing principle up to now has been "remove real names."
    This time it's a special exception making "real names OK."

    Do you not get that basic premise?
    146AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:37
    Re: #126
    According to Minister Matsumoto,
    removing names isn't feasible because it would place too much burden on the hospitals holding the data.
    148AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:37
    Do people even realize this is supposed to be anonymized data?
    Wait, it is anonymous… right? Hard to believe, but still.
    172AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:41
    Re: #148
    It's all "without the individual's consent," so it's probably handed over completely raw, everything included.
    187AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:43
    Re: #148
    This law change literally says "you don't have to anonymize it."
    196AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:45
    Re: #148
    Re: #1
    It's right there in the article — it says the data is handed over with real names attached.

    Background and Key Points

    Sensitive personal information under Japan’s Personal Information Protection Act (個人情報保護法) has always required consent before sharing with third parties, with medical history classed as “special care-required” data given extra weight since Japan lacks the sector-specific health-privacy statute that, say, HIPAA provides in the US. The 2026 revision carves out an exception: hospitals and insurers can pass such records to AI developers or statistical researchers without asking the patient, on the premise the data will be anonymized first. The petition responds to testimony in the Diet — Japan’s national legislature — where Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara and a minister named Matsumoto both said, under questioning from opposition lawmaker Akira Nagatsuma, that stripping identifying information before handoff is “difficult in practice.”

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t whether the law permits sharing without consent — that’s undisputed — but whether “anonymized” describes the data at the point it changes hands. Some posters insisted stripping happens before any transfer; others, citing the same Diet exchange, argued raw data with names and addresses moves first and de-identification, if it happens, comes only at the final statistical-output stage, with little vetting of who receives it in between.

    What the thread never engages with is why names get retained at all: several posters guessed it’s to prevent duplicate patient records across data sources, which is a real technical constraint in de-identification pipelines, not evidence of an ulterior motive. Readers should also know Japan’s health system is near-universal single-payer insurance, so this data pool implicates virtually the entire population, not an opt-in subset — raising the stakes of any anonymization gap well beyond what a Western reader used to fragmented, employer-based insurance records might assume.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Breaking News Plus) thread ““Don’t hand over our medical histories to AI developers without asking” — the woman behind the petition calling for “operational safeguards” on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision.”

  • Kaoru Mitoma’s New Squad Number Revealed — 5ch Reacts: ‘Absolutely Badass’

    On August 20, 2026, Brighton announced squad numbers for the new season, and Kaoru Mitoma’s new number drew comments like “absolutely badass” and “I want that jersey so bad.” The thread also touched on regret over Solly March’s departure, the possibility of Takefusa Kubo moving abroad, and comparisons with Lee Kang-in’s new number.

    Soccer Digest Web Editorial Team

    August 21, 2026

    Brighton, the club Kaoru Mitoma plays for, announced its squad numbers for the new season on August 20.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:40
    I hate number changes, except when a young player who got randomly assigned a number as a rookie becomes a regular and switches to something else.
    I love it when a guy changes numbers all the time depending on the situation, like Zidane.
    I'm not a Kashima fan, but I do like how 40 became a special number there.
    Cristiano should've just kept number 9 at Real Madrid too.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:46
    August 7, 2026
    Terrestrial TV ratings (Kanto region)

    NHK — 108th National High School Baseball Championship, Shimane vs. Nagasaki: 5.1%

    Fuji TV — J.League Opening Commemorative Match, Yokohama F. Marinos vs. Kashima Antlers: 2.5%

    This is reality.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:01
    Re: #17
    No point cherry-picking the number from 3 minutes into the broadcast and spinning it like that.
    106AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:59
    Re: #17
    Funny how you're pretending it never got close to 5% by the time the match ended.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    I'm a soccer fan, but I'm boycotting matches until they bench Mitoma and Sano.
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:02
    Re: #18
    It's absolutely no problem if you don't watch.
    Go right ahead.
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:33
    Re: #18
    Do whatever you want, man.
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:58
    It was a shock that Solly March left the club.
    There was a time I thought he'd get capped for England.
    136AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #31
    Before the injury, the way he'd relentlessly cut inside and get the job done was so cool.
    Also bugs me that they phrased it as "departed" rather than "transferred."
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:16
    Kubo's about the only attacker who still looks like he could land at a big club.
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:34
    Re: #44
    Kubo's already 25, though…
    He'd need a really strong league season to have a shot — double-digit goals at minimum.
    Big clubs already have 16-year-old wingers on their books; there's such a glut of winger talent that no big club needs to buy one.
    The Premier League's been picking up Japanese players lately, so a mid-table or lower Prem side is plausible, but a cash-strapped Spanish club like Sociedad won't sell him.
    So in the end he's locked up at Sociedad, run out his contract there, and by the time he's a free transfer his prime is over — he ends up somewhere like Betis. That's how it goes.
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:01
    Re: #44
    There's zero real demand for him, no matter how much the web news makes it look like there is.
    50AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:29
    He was a fantastic player, but he's a thing of the past now.
    He'll never get back to his pre-injury form.
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:38
    Re: #50
    Yeah, that's how it is.
    It's sad.

    For some reason nobody brings it up, but he might be the best soccer player Japan's ever produced.
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:11
    Is there really such a thing as a "cool" or "uncool" squad number?
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:23
    Re: #76
    Fine, then you're stuck wearing number 931 forever.
    86AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:37
    Squad numbers are about the only thing that gets people talking about "ball-kicking" (lol) (a dismissive slang term for soccer).
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:41
    Mitoma's a serious, hard-working guy so he tracks back on defense too, but why not just let him focus purely on attack?
    96AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:52
    Re: #89
    There's no team in the Premier League that lets you get away with only attacking.
    92AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:49
    Only good in year one, mediocre ever since.
    97AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:52
    Re: #92
    Actually his best season was year three.
    94AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:51
    Re: #86
    Baseball, where nobody even talks about squad numbers — nobody has a clue what number Murakami wears.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:54
    Re: #94
    Baseball gets talked about through stats.
    You guys have nothing else, so all you can do is talk about squad numbers.
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:56
    Re: #98
    He's hitting at a faster pace than he did in NPB — so much for MLB being the higher level, huh?
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:10
    Re: #98
    Unlike baseball, it's not an individual sport.
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:59
    A player big clubs won't even glance at —
    that's true of pretty much every Japanese player, and it makes me sad.
    110AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:07
    Re: #107
    There have been plenty in the past, and there's still one at Liverpool right now.
    112AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:14
    He's probably going to finish his career at Brighton.
    Such a waste.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:06
    Re: #112
    If he'd shone at the World Cup, he might've had a shot.
    131AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:23
    The new face of number 7 is Lee Kang-in
    http://youtu.be/zfVfIZd-vMs?t=346&si=GXWTbbl8dvk9ZkoX


    A wonder goal on his Atlético Madrid debut.
    133AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:26
    Re: #131
    Mitoma also scored on opening day back in 2025, come to think of it.
    135AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:32
    Re: #131
    Málaga finished 4th in the Segunda División last season — a team about on par with Japan's J2.

    Background and Key Points

    Brighton & Hove Albion announce squad numbers ahead of each Premier League season, and for Kaoru Mitoma — the Kawasaki Frontale product who joined Brighton in 2021 and has become the club’s most recognizable Japanese international winger — the reveal carries more than cosmetic weight, since Japanese fans tend to read continuity or symbolism into shirt numbers in a way baseball fans (NPB) generally don’t, a contrast one poster makes directly by comparing soccer’s number culture to how nobody tracks what number a star like Murakami wears. The context behind the reactions matters too: Solly March, the English winger who had been central to Brighton’s attack, left the club this summer; Mitoma’s Japan teammate Takefusa Kubo remains at Real Sociedad in La Liga rather than at a “big club”; and South Korea’s Lee Kang-in, now at Atlético Madrid, has taken over the No.7 there, prompting an instinctive cross-comparison from Japanese posters.

    The thread never actually settles into a debate about Mitoma’s number itself — reactions to it are uniformly positive. Where it splits is on Kubo’s prospects: some argue a move to a mid-table or lower Premier League side is realistic if he strings together a strong scoring season, while others insist there is “zero real demand” for him regardless of media hype. A parallel, unresolved argument breaks out over whether a squad number can be objectively “cool” at all, and the thread drifts further off-topic into unrelated complaints about J.League TV ratings.

    What’s easy to miss: no post ever states the actual number Mitoma was given. The praise (“absolutely badass,” “want that jersey”) is reacting to the announcement itself, not describing it, so readers hoping to learn the specific digit from the discussion won’t find it here.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] “It’s here!!!” “Absolutely badass” — Kaoru Mitoma’s new squad number sparks huge reaction! “I want that jersey so bad” “It’s gonna sell out~”.”

  • Foldable Phones: Nearly Half Say “No Thanks” — 5ch: “Everyone’ll Be Using One in Two Years”

    A survey by MM Research Institute found that about half of people with no experience using a foldable smartphone clearly said they “don’t want to buy one.” On 5ch, users voiced practical concerns — the durability of the fold crease, the weight, whether the battery can even be replaced — while others predicted that “once it comes from iPhone, it’ll take off overnight.” Opinions were split.

    MM Research Institute, which conducts research and analysis in the IT sector, released survey results on awareness, usage, and purchase intent regarding foldable smartphones, shedding light on domestic attitudes toward the devices.

    Of the respondents, 544 had experience using a foldable smartphone, while 540 had none.

    Plenty of people say they’d “like to try buying one” — but what’s the number one reason among those who flatly say they won’t?

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:08
    No idea how long the fold crease actually lasts
    And the resale value's probably garbage too
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:10
    Re: #3
    The screen protector film lasts six months, tops
    It's seriously done for after that
    10AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:09
    Say what you want, but in two years everyone'll be using one
    56AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:15
    Re: #10
    Most people only replace their phone once every 5 years
    No way that happens in just 2, lol
    83AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #10
    Then again, if nothing's fallen apart after 2 years, it might actually catch on
    12AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:10
    Is there even any benefit to using one for gaming?
    112AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:24
    Re: #12
    Like being able to check LINE (a chat app) or 5ch while you play, maybe
    20AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:11
    If you're using it at home, you don't need to fold it
    And if you're carrying it around daily, you don't need it folded either
    242AnonymousAug 18, 2026 12:00
    Re: #20
    Unfolded, it's way lighter than a regular tablet, so it's actually great for reading manga or watching videos while lying down
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    The fact that they're saying Apple can't even put out the iPhone 18 this year already tells you it's rough going
    43AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #26
    Apparently the Pro and Pro Max models are still coming
    49AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #26
    They probably just want people to buy the 18 Pro this fall
    Question is how many actually will
    123AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:25
    Re: #26
    Feature-wise it's basically been plateaued since the 14 anyway
    27AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    If it were around 180g, I'd consider it
    32AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:13
    Re: #27
    Even Samsung's models are over 200g, so that's probably a no-go
    79AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #27
    If it were razor-thin — under 9mm and up to 140g — I'd actually feel like buying one
    28AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    Honestly I'd rather have user-replaceable batteries than folding.
    Thanks to this dumb, totally un-"smart" design, we're stuck needing these things called portable battery packs.
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #28
    Not happening unless they drop the waterproofing-and-thinness arms race
    81AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #28
    Starting in February, EU regulations will require phones to have replaceable batteries
    92AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:20
    You guys were fine with flip phones going clack-clack, so why is it a problem for smartphones?
    97AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:22
    Re: #92
    Flip phones weren't touchscreens
    And there was no crease running through the display
    155AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:34
    Re: #92
    The selling points are pretty different, so comparing the two doesn't mean much. Sure, they both let you get a bigger screen, but flip phones folded the keypad and screen inward — a big plus for preventing accidental taps and screen damage. Foldable smartphones, on the other hand, still give you a usable phone-sized screen when folded, so the benefit is getting a phone and a tablet in one device. In exchange, you lose most of that accidental-input and damage protection.
    93AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:21
    Just make a 4-inch smartphone already, idiots
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:23
    Re: #93
    You won't even be able to tap the X to close ads anymore, lol
    111AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:24
    Re: #93
    Opening up to 4-inch size actually makes sense.

    I've got rheumatoid arthritis, so even 160g is too much for me — needs to be under 140g
    96AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:22
    I'd want one if I could check the time and see missed calls without unfolding it
    120AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:25
    Re: #96
    You'd need three panels for that, really
    202AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:48
    Isn't it just that the only ones out right now are Galaxy, so nobody feels like buying?
    Once it comes from iPhone, young people will jump on it instantly
    208AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:49
    Re: #202
    Chinese and Korean makers don't have the clout to move the global market
    211AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:50
    Re: #202
    No one's jumping on it
    Android still has the bigger market share anyway

    Background and Key Points

    Foldable phones sit at the intersection of two shifting arms races: display engineering and battery regulation. Samsung’s Galaxy Z Fold has led the category since 2019, but foldables remain a small niche of the global smartphone market — dominated by Chinese and Korean makers, none of whom carry Apple’s cultural weight in Japan. That matters because Apple’s iPhone share in Japan runs roughly 50%, far above its global average, making Japanese consumer sentiment unusually Apple-dependent; a folding iPhone, rumored for as early as fall 2026, would be the first real test of whether Japanese buyers embrace the form factor rather than merely tolerate it from Samsung.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t fold-versus-slab, it was trust in durability versus faith in Apple’s gravitational pull: skeptics cited crease wear, six-month screen protectors, and battery replacement as concrete, testable failures, while optimists offered no mechanism beyond “Apple will make it cool,” betting on brand rather than engineering improving in two years.

    What the thread never engages with is the regulatory backdrop: the EU’s mandate for user-replaceable batteries takes effect in February, which foldables’ thin, hinge-heavy design makes especially hard to satisfy — the poster who raised it got a one-line reply and no real follow-up. Readers outside Japan should also know MM Research Institute is a domestic IT market-research firm, so this data reflects Japanese buying psychology specifically, not global demand — replacement cycles here already run close to five years, which alone explains much of the “won’t buy” figure without needing to invoke the foldable format’s flaws at all.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Foldable Phones: About Half Clearly Say “I Don’t Want to Buy One”… Whether the “Foldable iPhone,” Expected Fall 2026, Succeeds Will Be the Litmus Test for the Category’s Future.”

  • Camping Comedian Hiroshi Goes Silent Amid Manufacturer Dispute — 5ch Split Over His Refusal to Release LINE Chats

    A dispute has surfaced between comedian Hiroshi, known for his camping gear, and the manufacturer he’d commissioned to produce one of his signature items. Hiroshi initially said he wanted the LINE chat logs between them made public so people could judge for themselves — but he’s since gone quiet without ever releasing them, and that shift has drawn attention. On 5ch’s Nanimo Jikkyo (Live News) board, opinions split over whether it was wise to move forward with production without first settling the rights, and whether going completely silent (“gan-mushi,” flatly ignoring the backlash) during a controversy is actually the smart play.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:03
    Smart move!
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:04
    So which side actually looks worse to the public here?
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:05
    Re: #5
    If you haven't read the statement the manufacturer put out, Hiroshi comes off looking better.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:09
    https://imgur.com/ue3IaQ3.jpeg


    He was so eager to release those LINE chats before… so what happened?
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:10
    Re: #17
    I really love this.
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #17
    Makes me want to do the "story of my life!" bit.
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:46
    Re: #17
    Maybe this is one of those cases where he didn't think he'd done anything wrong when he said it, but then showed it to people close to him and they were like, "uh, this isn't good."
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:09
    Honestly, it is the best move available to him right now.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:09
    Re: #18
    When you're getting flamed, going totally silent and waiting for people to get bored really is the best strategy.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:33
    Re: #18
    But that tactic isn't going to turn a strategic defeat around.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:13
    Even that small frying pan Hiroshi uses when camping — he's talked about basically saying "I want something like this" and having it made for him, so he probably just gave rough specs like the size, and the actual design work was all on the factory's end. So maybe this time too, Hiroshi just conveyed the general image, and it's the manufacturer that actually turned it into a real product?
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:14
    Re: #27
    That's exactly the manufacturer's side of the story.
    50AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:22
    Re: #27
    The real problem is starting production without even sorting out the rights in the first place.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:14
    He doesn't have much other work — don't go picking fights within the one industry that's his last refuge.
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:15
    Re: #28
    Well, he's also got that AC flare-piping commercial gig, so…
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:15


    Fan: "Let's take this to court!"
    Hiroshi: "…"
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:22
    Re: #32
    Seriously? (Wait, really? If he releases them he loses, doesn't he?)
    133AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:46
    Re: #32
    Classic "enemy pretending to be a fan" move.
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:15
    Wait, did Hiroshi just want something for his own personal use?
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #33
    He said it was ordered in a small lot, so it was probably meant for a test sale.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:17
    If they can pull off a smooth reconciliation, this could actually be great publicity. Just work out a revenue split so both sides profit.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:19
    Re: #40
    Nah, this has left a pretty bad impression.
    84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:34
    Has anyone actually pulled off going into hiding until a scandal blows over?
    85AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:34
    Re: #84
    Happens more often than you'd think.
    140AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:49
    Re: #84
    There are quite a few cases, but those usually involve someone blossoming in a side gig or hobby unrelated to their main job. And this is exactly that kind of hobby.
    145AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:50
    Re: #84
    Waiting for a scandal to actually blow over genuinely takes years. And that only works for people who weren't excessively hated to begin with. Take Watabe (comedian Yuichi Watanabe) — he's nowhere near his peak, but people finally stopped bringing him up recently.
    93AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:38
    This is an issue between Hiroshi and the manufacturer, so outsiders shouldn't be running their mouths about it.
    105AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:39
    Re: #93
    Can't help it — Hiroshi's the one who asked us to judge who's in the wrong.
    114AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    Re: #93
    Hiroshi: "I want to release the LINE chats and have everyone judge."

    Manufacturer: "We don't want to fight, but since we're being blamed one-sidedly, we have our side of the story too — go ahead and release the LINE chats, we don't mind."

    Hiroshi: "…This is between us, so it's none of outsiders' business."



    Is that seriously how it's playing out now? No way that's really it.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:42
    You hear stories sometimes about someone paying big money for a full custom order meant for personal use, only for a slightly tweaked version to show up cheap on the market not long after.
    121AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:45
    Re: #115
    Happens a lot with cars and motorcycles too — a one-off part gets made for someone, then later ends up added to the regular lineup.
    135AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:47
    Hiroshi probably wanted to hold onto the blueprints and the rights, right? Was he trying to have some manufacturer build it as an OEM exactly to spec so he could sell it through his own channels? If so, it sounds like he only outsourced the design work.

    The more natural pattern would be: the manufacturer builds what Hiroshi wants, markets and sells it themselves, and pays Hiroshi a cut as an advertising fee. Was that what the manufacturer had in mind?
    150AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:52
    By the way, anyone already convinced Hiroshi is definitely losing is just as biased as anyone else. Sure, he's making the bad move of not releasing the LINE chats he said he would — no idea if it's a dead end for him or not — but that doesn't mean the manufacturer is automatically 100% in the right either. So if you actually want to stir things up, the move is to cozy up like you're on his side and go "come on, just release the LINE chats!"

    Background and Key Points

    Camping culture in Japan has boomed since roughly 2019-2020, and Hiroshi (real name Hiroshi Watanabe) built a second career as its most recognizable comedian-turned-outdoorsman, parlaying his TV “story of my life” persona into gear branding and camping-variety appearances. That crossover matters here because collaborations between talent and manufacturers in Japan usually run on informal trust rather than signed licensing deals — a celebrity gives rough specs (“something like this”), a factory does the engineering, and who owns the resulting design is often left unresolved until money is at stake. LINE, Japan’s dominant messaging app, is where these arrangements typically get hashed out, which is why the chat logs became the flashpoint: Hiroshi first said he’d release them so the public could judge, then didn’t.

    The thread’s actual disagreement isn’t over who’s right on the merits — posters admit they don’t know that — but over whether Hiroshi’s silence (“gan-mushi”) is savvy crisis management or a tacit admission he’d lose if the messages came out. A second, related split concerns process rather than blame: several posters fault the decision to start production before the rights question was settled, regardless of which side proposed what.

    What the thread doesn’t supply is any actual content from the chats, the manufacturer’s statement, or a timeline of who commissioned what — every claim about “who really designed it” is speculation extrapolated from Hiroshi’s past small-batch gear deals, not evidence from this dispute. Readers should also know that in Japanese talent culture, going quiet during backlash is a well-worn, often effective tactic precisely because sustained public feuds are seen as more damaging to a “tarento” than unresolved accusations — which is the calculation several posters explicitly credit him with making.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread「[Breaking] Hiroshi Enters the “Completely Ignore Everything” Phase」.

  • Pachinko Parlor Manager Snaps: ‘Final Warning — At This Rate, Every Pachinko Parlor in Japan Will Go Bankrupt’

    A post claiming to be from a pachinko parlor manager pleaded that “at this rate, every pachinko parlor in Japan will go bankrupt,” sparking a wave of discussion on 5ch. The thread debated the industry’s future, touching on how the player base keeps shrinking even as average spending per customer keeps climbing, and the knock-on effect on anime productions that have long relied on pachinko money.

    1AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:15
    "I'll say it straight. At this rate, in 20 years there won't be a single pachinko parlor left standing in Japan.
    Is that really what you want?
    Do you honestly think we pachinko halls have unlimited money?
    12AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:19
    Pachinko parlor managers are just regular salaried employees, yet they end up starring in goofy commercials and plastered on shop banners — sounds rough.
    27AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:27
    Re: #12
    And on top of that, the manager's the one who ends up hated by the customers too.
    19AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:24
    Pachinko machine makers will probably survive just fine even without the parlors, somehow.
    22AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:24
    Re: #19
    Most of the makers have other business lines going anyway.
    20AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:24
    Public gambling like horse racing, keirin, and boat racing can pick up the slack, so no problem. Even if you get fleeced, at least the money goes back to the government — unlike pachinko, it's not funding North Korean missiles or whatever.
    31AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
    Re: #20
    The gameplay is totally different, so it's not really picking up the slack.

    If anything, we NEED it to become the safety net.
    35AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    Re: #20
    Just because someone likes gambling doesn't mean they like every kind of gambling.
    32AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:29
    Glad I turned down Sammy [pachinko machine maker]. The pay was amazing back in those days though.
    34AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:30
    Re: #32
    Turning down Sammy seems like a waste — they're not just a pachinko company.
    36AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:33
    Re: #32
    SEGA: "Come work for us instead." (Sammy and SEGA are sister companies under SEGA Sammy Holdings)
    54AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:50
    Isn't it actually a good thing if it collapses?
    57AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:52
    Re: #54
    Renting pachinko balls is subject to consumption tax, so ironically it's the people who DON'T play pachinko who'd be worse off if the industry went under.
    66AnonymousAug 17, 2026 22:56
    Re: #54
    A lot of former pachinko parlor lots out in the suburbs just sit abandoned as-is — not sure that's really a good thing.
    99AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:46
    The three great pachinko-addict theories:
    ・"I'm winning overall."
    ・"I didn't lose, I just banked it at the parlor."
    ・"I had fun AND they gave some of it back — that's practically generous of them."
    100AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:47
    Re: #99
    I earned positive expected value.
    111AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:56
    Re: #100
    Yeah, that one's a classic too.
    116AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:03
    Re: #100
    I mean, I really am earning positive EV.
    108AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:53
    Apparently the player population has dropped a lot since the industry's peak, but profits haven't fallen nearly as much — people say that just means they've gotten more efficient at squeezing money out of a smaller pool of players.
    112AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:58
    Re: #108
    Even Maruhan [Japan's biggest pachinko chain] has reportedly nearly halved in the past decade… The scary part is that average spending per customer keeps rising in inverse proportion.
    114AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:02
    Re: #112
    An industry trying to make up for losing customers by squeezing the remaining ones harder — that's a death star shining way too bright (a Fist of the North Star reference to an omen of doom).
    120AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:05
    Re: #112
    Well yeah, the price per ball keeps climbing, so of course. And with the machines tightened up on top of that, there's no way to win.
    135AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:16
    If the pachinko industry collapses, all that manpower and money would flow into other industries and Japan would bounce back.
    136AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:20
    Re: #135
    Sounds like it'd just get siphoned off by sports betting instead — a system that sends the money straight overseas.
    143AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:24
    Re: #135
    If that alone were enough to revive Japan, the economy should already be booming.

    In reality, as tax revenue from pachinko drops, the burden just shifts onto people who don't even play.
    149AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:33
    There are anime that only got sequels made thanks to pachinko money, you know.
    If it disappears, the anime industry could be in trouble.
    151AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:33
    Re: #149
    Is it really that many though?
    155AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:35
    Re: #149
    Can't be helped, switch over to casino money then.
    165AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:46
    Re: #149
    Evangelion was basically made entirely on pachinko money, right?
    157AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:36
    Re: #152
    Symphogear and Basilisk too. Though apparently Basilisk's "Ouka" spin-off, made banking on pachinko money, turned out so bad that a pachinko or slot machine for Ouka doesn't look promising.
    160AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:40
    Re: #157
    Symphogear was already popular on its own lol
    161AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:40
    Re: #157
    Sorry, don't know either one of those.

    Background and Key Points

    Pachinko occupies a strange legal gray zone in Japan: it isn’t licensed as gambling, because the parlor pays out only tokens or prizes, which players then sell for cash at a separate “exchange shop” (sankyō) technically unaffiliated with the hall. That workaround, dating to the postwar occupation era, is what has let an industry worth roughly ¥30 trillion at its 1990s peak operate legally for decades. Player numbers have collapsed since then — from tens of millions of regulars to a shrinking, aging core — even as per-customer spending rises, which is the “efficiency” posters in the thread are alluding to: fewer players being squeezed harder rather than the industry recovering. Maruhan, cited in the thread, is the largest chain and a useful bellwether for the sector’s health.

    Where the thread actually splits is on whether pachinko’s decline is a problem worth mourning at all — some posters treat a shrinking industry as a public good (less predatory gambling, money not leaving Japan through side channels), while others point to real downstream costs: consumption tax revenue, rural land left derelict, and licensing money that funded anime productions like Evangelion.

    What’s likely to surprise foreign readers is the North Korea allegation mentioned only in passing (post 20) — it’s a decades-old, well-documented political claim that some pachinko revenue, particularly from parlors linked to Chongryon (the pro-Pyongyang Korean residents’ association), was remitted to North Korea, a claim that shaped Japanese public suspicion of the industry long before today’s economic debate. The thread never explains this, but it’s the subtext behind why “at least horse racing money doesn’t fund North Korean missiles” lands as a serious jab rather than a throwaway line.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Pachinko Parlor Manager Snaps: ‘Final Warning — At This Rate, Every Pachinko Parlor in Japan Will Go Bankrupt’”.

  • Taiwan Pulls ‘Yani Neko’ from Streaming Over Real Cigarette Brand Names

    A thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G board lit up over news that Yani Neko (“Nicotine Cat”), the anime known for its cat character’s smoking scenes, has had its streaming halted in Taiwan. The reason wasn’t the smoking depiction itself, but that real cigarette brand names like Mevius and Setta appeared directly on screen, which was deemed effectively tobacco advertising.

    The thread initially misreported the story as being about Hong Kong before getting corrected, and posters also brought up examples like JoJo’s Jotaro having his cigarette swapped for candy in overseas releases, sparking a divided debate over how far content regulation should go.

    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:41
    Fair enough — this kind of thing wouldn't fly on Japanese terrestrial TV these days anyway.
    Though yeah, they should at least zone/age-restrict it properly.
    55AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:58
    Re: #4
    Overseas it's streaming-only anyway, right?
    Japan's basically the only place that'd air something like this on regular TV.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:48
    It's Hong Kong, not Taiwan.
    And the reason isn't that the cat smokes — it's that showing the actual cigarette brand got ruled as advertising.
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:52
    Re: #16
    Huh, I see.
    So that's a thing.
    Smoking itself isn't the problem then.
    Well, guess that makes sense.
    84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:17
    Re: #16
    No, it's Taiwan.
    At least read the news properly before replying.
    119AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:28
    Re: #16
    So Zhongnanhai (a Chinese cigarette brand) would've been fine, then?
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:49
    "Yaku Neko" (i.e. swap "nicotine cat" for "drug cat")
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:50
    Seems like the smoking depiction itself is what's out.
    By that logic, shouldn't the same reasoning apply to those guys smoking behind the supermarket too, not just Yani Neko?
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:51
    Re: #24
    True.
    I mean, there must be tons of other shows with smoking scenes too.
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:52
    Re: #24
    Seems like it only got flagged because real brand names like Mevius were clearly shown, which counted as tobacco advertising.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:52
    Re: #24
    Sanji's had his cigarette censored/regulated in various countries too, for that matter.
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:53
    So what are the free-speech warriors gonna do about this one?
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:54
    Re: #36
    Freedom of expression only goes as far as not becoming a social harm.
    And this one's flat-out harmful.
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:59
    Re: #36
    Didn't people rage and demand boycotts over the male-otaku fan portrayals in Chiramune and Nidiga (fan nicknames for two other anime)?
    There's always some double-standard jerk who sneers when it's someone else's problem but flips out the second it's personal.
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:53
    Re: #26
    Overseas, Jotaro's smoking scenes get either mosaic-censored or swapped out for candy.
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:54
    Re: #37
    Well, he's a minor, after all.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:21
    Re: #37
    If Jotaro delivers his big catchphrase and then starts licking a piece of candy, that turns it into a comedy anime.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:56
    It's not that the smoking depiction itself is the problem — it's that showing real cigarette names amounts to actual advertising for those cigarettes, that's why it's not allowed.

    > Tobacco products and brand names are shown repeatedly and clearly, raising suspicion that it constitutes tobacco advertising
    https://www.zakzak.co.jp/article/20260819-J7S2SLO62VH7ZIEXOIJ2AE5BAM/
    54AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:58
    Re: #44
    So that thing manga always does, calling Twitter "Twister" or some lame pun like that — turns out it actually serves a real purpose.
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:57
    Doesn't it say Hong Kong?
    52AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:58
    Re: #49
    It says 台灣 (Táiwān) right there.
    台灣 means Taiwan.
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:10
    If they're shown puffing away on a real cigarette brand looking like it's delicious, yeah, that's just straight-up advertising.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:14
    Re: #68
    Seriously, she does look like she's enjoying it.
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:17
    Well, of course it'd get treated as an ad for Mevius and Setta.

    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:19
    That's just dumb.
    Everyone should already know Japanese common sense doesn't fly overseas.
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:19
    Re: #84
    It literally says "Taiwanese media reported that this happened in Hong Kong."
    96AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:21
    Re: #91
    No, that's wrong.
    This is about the anime's streaming getting halted in Taiwan.
    99AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:21
    Re: #91
    It's about the anime broadcast getting cancelled in Taiwan.
    The Hong Kong thing is old news.
    123AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:29
    Sorry, but do beastfolk characters really need to have such sexy bodies?
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:30
    Re: #123
    There's no reason not to.
    164AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:46
    Re: #123
    Otherwise they'd have gone extinct by now.

    Background and Key Points

    Taiwan’s Tobacco Hazards Prevention Act (菸害防制法) is one of the stricter tobacco-advertising regimes in Asia, banning not just ads but any media content that could be construed as promoting a specific, identifiable tobacco product. Japan has no equivalent restriction for animation — depictions of smoking, including on terrestrial TV, are governed by broadcaster self-regulation rather than law, which is why a story like this reads as baffling to a Japanese audience: the show wasn’t pulled for showing a character smoke, but for showing real, purchasable brand names (Mevius, Setta) on screen in a way regulators read as de facto advertising for those products.

    The thread’s actual fault line wasn’t “should Yani Neko be banned” so much as which country did the banning and why. Early replies (mis)reported it as a Hong Kong case and treated it as a blanket anti-smoking-depiction move, prompting pushback that if depiction alone were the issue, decades of anime featuring smoking (One Piece’s Sanji, JoJo’s Jotaro) would need the same treatment. Once corrected to Taiwan, and once the “real brand names = advertising” distinction was posted with a source, the debate shifted to whether that’s a reasonable legal line or regulatory overreach — with a side debate on free expression versus social harm.

    What the thread never really engages with is that Sanji’s and Jotaro’s overseas censorship (mosaic, candy swaps) is a distributor-side localization choice made precisely to avoid this kind of legal exposure — meaning Yani Neko’s case isn’t an outlier so much as a show that, for whatever reason, wasn’t localized before Taiwanese distribution.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Yani Neko Gets Flooded with Complaints in Taiwan and Banned from Broadcast lolololololololol“.

  • Meiji Raises Prices on 14 Products Including Kinoko no Yama and Takenoko no Sato as Matcha, Materials Costs Soar

    Meiji has announced it will raise prices on a total of 14 products, including “Kinoko no Yama” and “Takenoko no Sato,” starting in October. The reason is soaring costs for matcha, packaging materials, and fuel, with shipping prices rising 3-21%. On 5ch, alongside the classic “Team Kinoko vs. Team Takenoko” debate, users also shared their sense of just how much cheap candy prices have climbed.

    On the 18th, Meiji announced it will raise prices on a total of 14 beverage and confectionery products, including “Kinoko no Yama” and “Takenoko no Sato.” The price increase, based on shipping prices, ranges from 3% to 21%. The company is passing on rising procurement costs for packaging materials, logistics, and other factors.

    Starting in October, prices will rise on three beverage products — “Tsujiri Koi Matcha Latte,” “Tsujiri Matcha Latte,” and “Tsujiri Hojicha Latte” — with shipping prices increasing 16-21%. In November, a total of 11 chocolate and snack products, including Kinoko no Yama, Takenoko no Sato, “Garbo Chocolate Pouch,” and “Karl Cheese Flavor,” will see price increases of 3-8%.

    While the market price of cacao beans, the raw material for chocolate, has stabilized, the price of matcha has soared. Palm oil and fuel costs have also surged, and the company stated that “it has become difficult to continue sales at current prices.”

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    9AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:23
    Yep, a 'hearing' (a fancy word for intimidation)
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:24
    Re: #9
    It's 'listening,' not 'hearing'
    14AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:24
    Why is it that you guys' Kinoko no Yama is worthless 😭
    66AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:29
    Re: #14
    Except for ratites and some Galliformes/Anseriformes, birds don't have a 'Kinoko no Yama' (a cheeky stand-in for the actual trivia — most birds lack a penis). Just some trivia for ya
    32AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:25
    Never had it.
    Is it actually good…?
    36AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:25
    Re: #32
    Kinoko no Yama is good
    74AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:31
    Re: #36
    Takenoko no Sato's the tasty one though
    195AnonymousAug 18, 2026 15:01
    Re: #74
    I prefer Kinoko no Yama too.
    Was Team Takenoko back in school, but now I'm fully Team Kinoko
    248AnonymousAug 18, 2026 15:21
    Re: #74
    Was Team Takenoko as a kid.
    Switched to Kinoko once I started drinking coffee
    37AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:26
    Just make the packaging into a coloring book already
    50AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:28
    Re: #37
    (;゚Д゚) I've done the potato chips and Kappa Ebisen ones.
    Haven't drawn the BIG potato chips one yet.
    Gotta hurry up before it goes soggy from humidity
    42AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:26
    Of course prices are going up, so how long are people gonna whine that they want the old prices back lol
    Just let go of that 'I wanna buy it cheap' urge lol
    44AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:27
    Re: #42
    We're talking about the price of labor here too, right?
    43AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:27
    It's already pricey as it is, and it'll still sell even after another hike.
    Who on earth is buying this stuff?
    65AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:29
    Re: #43
    (;゚Д゚) People who like their little indulgences will buy them no matter what~
    Look at Figma and Nendoroid figures selling like crazy even at like double their old prices…
    49AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:28
    Was shocked to see it going for 178 yen at my local supermarket.
    Feel like it used to be around 120 yen.
    With another hike coming, is it gonna break 200 yen?
    84AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:33
    Re: #49
    At a convenience store a box'll run about 280 yen
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:28
    Raising the price even though there's barely anything in the box.
    Might as well be charging more for air at this point.
    64AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:29
    Re: #54
    And they'll probably still keep it labeled 'quasi-chocolate' even after the price hike (a lower-grade JAS category with less cacao than real chocolate)
    76AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:31
    Asked GPT5.6
    Question: Which is better, Kinoko no Yama or Takenoko no Sato? Answer in under 200 characters.
    Answer: Takenoko no Sato wins. The savory cookie and the chocolate blend together beautifully, and the texture is really satisfying. That said, the cracker fans of Kinoko no Yama shouldn't be underestimated either. In the end it's a matter of taste, but I'll cast my vote for Takenoko no Sato. (quoted verbatim)
    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:32
    Re: #76
    You can't review something you've never even eaten
    121AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:40
    > packaging materials etc. soaring

    Is the reason naphtha?
    154AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:46
    Re: #121
    'Heno-koko-no…' (a nonsense rhyme riffing on Kinoko/Takenoko) — anyway, it's the fuel cost hike
    131AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:41
    I rarely eat cheap candy these days, but I was shocked at how nasty the chocolate has gotten lately.
    Cacao's through the roof so they're probably mixing in who-knows-what.
    Nothing but low-quality, overpriced stuff out there now.
    Feel bad for kids today.
    147AnonymousAug 18, 2026 14:45
    Re: #131
    Maybe they cut the sugar or switched to cheaper ingredients?
    Chocolate's inherently kind of bitter to begin with anyway

    Background and Key Points

    The rivalry behind this story is a genuine institution in Japan: Kinoko no Yama (mushroom-shaped, chocolate cap on a cracker stem) and Takenoko no Sato (bamboo-shoot-shaped, cookie base under chocolate) have been sold by Meiji since the 1970s, and “Team Kinoko vs. Team Takenoko” is a running national debate complete with polls, merchandise, and mock elections. Both are legally classified as “quasi-chocolate” (準チョコレート) under Japan’s JAS standards, a category with lower cacao-content requirements than real chocolate, which is why they’ve historically stayed cheap. This hike sits inside a broader wave of cost-push inflation that has been reshaping Japanese snack aisles since the weak yen made imported cacao, palm oil, and packaging materials more expensive.

    The thread didn’t really argue about the price increase itself, since most posters treated it as unavoidable; the actual split was the old Kinoko-vs-Takenoko loyalty question, including several users describing switching sides as adults, plus a side debate over whether people will simply keep buying at higher prices regardless (with figure-collecting compared as a parallel indulgence market).

    What’s easy to miss is that matcha, singled out in the announcement, mainly hits the Tsujiri latte drinks (16–21% increases), not Kinoko/Takenoko themselves, which are driven up by packaging, logistics, and palm oil instead. Also unmentioned in the thread: Japan’s matcha price surge is largely demand-driven, fueled by a global matcha-latte boom and inbound tourism straining limited tencha (shade-grown tea leaf) production — a supply squeeze from outside Japan, not a domestic cost issue.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Price Hike] Meiji: “Kinoko no Yama” and “Takenoko no Sato” — Packaging Materials and Other Costs Soar.”