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  • TM NETWORK’s First ‘SONGS’ Appearance in 12 Years: 5ch Says ‘There’s More to Them Than Get Wild’

    It’s been reported that TM NETWORK will appear on NHK General’s “SONGS” on September 3, their first music-show appearance in 12 years, where they’ll share the behind-the-scenes story of how their signature hit “Get Wild” came to be. On 5ch, a comment that the band was “starting to look like a Get Wild one-hit wonder” kicked off a wave of posts championing their other classic songs, while the thread also lit up with behind-the-scenes stories from the Hong Kong music-video shoot and talk of former support members B’z’s Tak Matsumoto and access’s Daisuke Asakura.

    Wed, Aug 26, 2:52 PM

    TMNETWORK, making its first music-show appearance in 12 years, will debut on the NHK General music program “SONGS” (Thursdays, 10:00 PM), airing September 3.

    TMNETWORK — the trio of Tetsuya Komuro, Takashi Utsunomiya, and Naoto Kine, who debuted in 1984 — took the music scene by storm with an innovative sound built on synthesizers and computers. This special feature spotlights the group who, through countless pioneering efforts, laid the groundwork for today’s J-POP.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:38
    Somebody give their other songs some love too, not just Get Wild
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:47
    Re: #4
    I'm a Self Control fan myself
    99AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:42
    Re: #4
    Honestly I'm not even that into Get Wild
    My favorite is DIVE INTO YOUR BODY
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:47
    The biggest mystery is that video where they just walk around Hong Kong
    I want them to spill the secret behind that one
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Re: #12
    They had no budget, so they went with cheap, hassle-free location shooting — just a one-night trip to Hong Kong to film it
    They literally just rolled camera in the streets, so the passersby are real bystanders who had no clue what was going on
    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:10
    Re: #12
    They went deep into the backstory on that 2-hour TM special on BS-TBS yesterday.
    Go watch it on TVer.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:49
    They've got plenty of other hits, but somehow they're turning into a Get Wild one-hit wonder lol
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:18
    Re: #15
    Same deal as Misato Watanabe being pegged as a one-hit wonder for My Revolution
    Doesn't really mean anything
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:40
    Re: #15
    That's not true at all. The City Hunter tie-in carries a lot of weight
    They've also got a Gundam ending theme to their name
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:41
    Re: #15
    There's also a theory that BEYOND THE TIME makes them a two-hit wonder
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:51
    Wait, didn't they change their name from TMNETWORK to TMN at some point?
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:54
    Re: #19
    They switched back to TM NETWORK when they reunited, but this year, for whatever reason, they renamed themselves "TMNETWORK" with no space
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:54
    Following up Get Wild with KISS YOU as the next single cut was a bad move

    If they'd gone with Be Together instead, TM would've earned even more respect
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:40
    Re: #24
    Honestly their single picks were just bad across the board
    If they'd released something like Time Passed Me By as a single, it probably would've been a hit
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:56
    Their support members made it big too, huh
    B'z's Tak Matsumoto
    access's Daisuke Asakura
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:14
    Re: #33
    Matsumoto's break actually started as a support member for Mari Hamada
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:15
    Re: #33
    Daisuke Asakura, of all people — and he used to just be a YAMAHA synth operator
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:45
    Re: #33
    I heard access wrote a song called Decade&XXX to celebrate TM's 10th anniversary
    Really liked that one
    They've reunited and are still active now
    Shame they went on hiatus to go solo right when they were popular
    B'z, though — say what you will, but it's impressive how they've stayed on top this whole time
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:58
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Re: #36
    That's from their "Japanese Duran Duran" era
    That style suited them, but the rebrand into TMN didn't quite land
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    Re: #36
    That mystery Chinese guy is getting cropped out right on schedule lol
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:00
    As far as albums go, humansystem
    has to be a top-3 pick in Japanese music history
    Still hasn't lost its shine after almost 40 years
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:31
    Re: #41

    Why is the volume on that so low?
    101AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:43
    Re: #41
    Vocals: Utsunomiya
    Keys: Komuro
    Guitar: Matsumoto
    Bass: Koki
    Drums: Seijun
    What a lineup
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:03
    People this makes me think of, from "Christopher High School"
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Re: #46
    Kendai Takasaki, right?
    Be Together
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:09
    Re: #46
    The old lady stuffed in the fridge is straight-up horror
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:09
    For some reason they had a radio show in Nagoya back then
    What even was that about
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Re: #55
    It was "SF Rock Station"
    Reception was bad in Tokyo but I taped it every week anyway
    106AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:46
    Re: #55
    Hamburger steak & crab cream croquette
    79AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:25
    I loved the song from "Bokutachi no Nanokakan Sensou" (Our Seven-Day War)
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Re: #79
    That'd be "Girlfriend"
    110AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:49
    Re: #79-80
    Isn't it "Seven Days War" lol
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:58
    Jealous that they can live off Get Wild alone
    Guess it's all thanks to City Hunter
    127AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:02
    Re: #124
    Not just that
    The karaoke royalties from BE TOGETHER and BEYOND THE TIME add up quite a bit too
    128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:03
    Re: #124
    If we're talking City Hunter, it should be "Still Love Her"
    Makes you wonder which one pulls in more, that or Gundam's "Beyond the Time"
    Apparently they re-recorded it last year for GQuuuuuuX
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:02
    LUCKY! Tenshi Miyako e Iku Yuuwaku ("LUCKY! The Temptation to Go to Angel City")
    137AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    Re: #125
    "Kimochi Ii Koi Shitai!" ("I Want a Feel-Good Romance!")

    Background and Key Points

    TM NETWORK isn’t a random synth-pop act — they’re one of the founding acts of Komuro Tetsuya’s production empire, and the connection matters for context: this is the same Komuro who would go on to define 1990s J-POP through TK-produced acts (globe, Namie Amuro, trf) before his career later collapsed in scandal. TM NETWORK (Utsunomiya on vocals, Kine on guitar, Komuro on keys) debuted in 1984 as a pioneer of computer/synth-driven pop, well before that sound was mainstream in Japan. “Get Wild,” their most famous song, is inseparable from “City Hunter” — it closed out the anime for years and has enjoyed an unusually long shelf life through repeated re-releases and remixes tied to City Hunter films, which is why it eclipses the rest of their catalog in casual recognition despite the band having a much deeper body of work.

    The thread’s actual disagreement isn’t about whether Get Wild is good — nobody argues that — it’s about how unfair the “one-hit wonder” framing is. Posters split between defending specific deep cuts (Self Control, DIVE INTO YOUR BODY, Time Passed Me By), and citing the band’s other real chart/cultural footprint: a Gundam ending theme (Beyond the Time) and steady karaoke royalties, as evidence the “one-hit” label undersells them. There’s also a side debate about whether singles strategy (choosing KISS YOU over Be Together as the Get Wild follow-up) actively hurt their reputation.

    What outsiders will likely miss: the “support member” system name-dropped almost in passing — Tak Matsumoto (B’z) and Daisuke Asakura (access) both did stints as TM NETWORK’s touring/session musicians before their own bands broke out — is a bigger deal than it sounds, since both went on to become two of the best-selling acts in Japanese music history. That pipeline, more than any single song, is arguably TM NETWORK’s real legacy.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Music] TM NETWORK Debuts on “SONGS,” Reveals the Secret Behind “Get Wild” in First Music-Show Appearance in 12 Years.”

  • Ryohei Nishino Announces ‘Notice of Intent to Sue’ Against Senior Comedian, Weighs Legal Action: ‘He Committed Violent Acts Against Me’

    On the night of the 25th, King Kong’s Ryohei Nishino posted a lengthy statement on his X account saying he was preparing a “notice of intent to sue” against Impulse’s Atsushi Tsutsumishita. On the thread, reactions focused less on whether the claims were true and more on “we can’t tell if this is a bit or if he’s serious,” sparking a mixed debate over Nishino’s comedic style and his recent popularity.

    Nikkan Sports [August 26, 2026, 3:43 PM]

    Ryohei Nishino Announces “Notice of Intent to Sue” Against Senior Comedian, Weighs Legal Action: “He Committed Violent Acts Against Me”

    Ryohei Nishino (46), of the comedy duo King Kong, updated his X account on the night of the 25th, writing at length that he is considering “legal action” against Atsushi Tsutsumishita (48) of Impulse.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:27
    Watching the Discovery Channel is more fun than watching Omiya Park's mascot Peace-kun on YouTube anyway.
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:29
    It's not comedy until somebody actually gets killed.
    Comedians have no common sense to begin with.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:30
    What is this?
    Is this even supposed to be comedy?
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:30
    So the senior comedian that Panther's Ogata was hinting he hated in that exposé really was Tsutsumishita after all.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Has Nishino gotten to the point where the only way he can make the general public laugh is by teaming up with Hitori Gekidan?
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Isn't this actually about Hitori Gekidan, not Tsutsumishita?
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:37
    Does anyone actually find this funny?
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:37
    Is this for real?
    Or is it another one of his usual smug, backhanded-politeness bits?
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:51
    Re: #18
    Can't you tell just from reading it?
    It's obviously a bit and nothing else.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:39
    This long-winded-post routine always bombs, so he really should stop — just some advice from an amateur.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:01
    Re: #22
    Oh, can the amateur please pipe down?
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:12
    Re: #22
    The article itself was so boring that this is the funniest thing in this whole thread, lol
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:48
    If you actually read it properly instead of just reacting on reflex, it's funny.
    Being able to dish it out AND take it — leave it to Nishino to be the only one who can pull that off.
    Comedy where nobody actually gets hurt.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:49
    Who'd have guessed Nishino would become yesterday's news before Nakata did.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:50
    Haven't read it, but isn't this the same kind of bit he does with Kajiwara and others too?

    I mean, he's been showing up as a pair on Tsutsumishita's completely unpopular YouTube channel a lot lately.
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:52
    Guys who'd vanish the second the controversy dries up have to keep manufacturing buzz nonstop — rough life.
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:52
    "Get ready!! Higashino!!" (riffing on the famous shouted catchphrase originally aimed at comedian Kotaro Higashino)

    Wait, it's Tsutsumishita?
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:53
    Reminds me of how badly he used to bomb back in his Haneru no Tobira days.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:53
    Doing stuff like this is exactly why he never becomes truly hated.
    Nishino's the one who's still got both feet planted firmly in the comedian world.
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:04
    I already read it for you.
    It's boring and way too long to be worth your time, so don't bother.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Too long.
    He's supposed to be smart — summarize it in fewer words.
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:09
    Re: #51
    A watered-down Reiwa-era version of Dacho Club's "I'll sue you!" bit (a famous catchphrase from the comedy trio Dacho Club).
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:08
    That "guy from in front of Nishi Elementary School's north gate" is hilarious as always.
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:09
    Comedians are all like this lately, lol
    Stop using X to air your personal complaints and gripes, lol
    Sort it out directly with the person involved.
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:14
    I think he should just zip his lips.
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:15
    For this kind of bit, nothing beats the classic "A letter from ○○'s mom's lawyer" format — nobody else comes close.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    I get it, this ends with Hitori Gekidan ripping Nishino's clothes to shreds and everything gets wrapped up nicely, right?
    Fine, just go with that then — tear Nishino to pieces already.
    76AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:29
    Somebody should tell him this bombed.
    He'll just assume it's haters talking, so ideally one of his own fans should break it to him quietly.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:37
    Re: #76
    That fan would just get dogpiled and lynched by the rest of the fanbase.
    Best policy: don't look, don't touch, don't bring it up.
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:30

    Background and Key Points

    King Kong is one of Japan’s best-known owarai (comedy) duos, and within Japan’s showbiz world seniority is strict: “senpai” comedians who debuted earlier are treated with public deference regardless of age, which is why Nishino (46) accusing Tsutsumishita (48) of Impulse of “violent acts” registers as unusually explosive — attacking a senior performer, especially in public, breaks an unwritten rule of the industry. A “notice of intent to sue” (訴訟予告) is normally a formal step before litigation, but Nishino announced his via a long personal post on X rather than through lawyers, which is the detail the thread fixated on.

    The actual split in the thread wasn’t over whether Tsutsumishita did anything — almost no one engaged with that claim as fact. It was over genre: is this a real grievance or one of Nishino’s trademark long, oddly polite/backhanded “bit” posts, the kind he’s done with other comedians (Kajiwara was named) and reportedly performs together with Tsutsumishita on the latter’s YouTube channel. Posters also floated that the real target/collaborator might be Hitori Gekidan rather than Tsutsumishita at all, and compared the routine to Dacho Club’s classic “I’ll sue you!” catchphrase — a decades-old fake-lawsuit gag format.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that “senior comedian did something terrible” call-outs have become their own subgenre lately (posters reference Panther’s Ogata’s earlier exposé), so audiences reflexively parse these posts as content/promotion rather than as news, which is exactly why almost nobody in the thread treated the assault claim as something to actually be concerned about.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “Ryohei Nishino Announces “Notice of Intent to Sue” Against Senior Comedian, Weighs Legal Action: “He Committed Violent Acts Against Me”.”

  • Surgeons Operate on Wrong Leg, Implant Artificial Bone by Mistake — Aichi Hospital Settles for ¥5.5 Million

    A medical error has come to light at Ichinomiya Municipal Hospital in Aichi Prefecture, where surgeons operated on the leg that wasn’t broken and implanted an artificial bone in it. The mix-up was discovered during a post-operative X-ray, and the hospital settled by paying 5.5 million yen in damages. On 5ch, alongside shocked reactions like “how does a mistake like that even happen,” many users shared their own habits of marking the correct leg before surgery and personal stories of left-right mix-ups, while others questioned why no measures exist to prevent this from happening again.

    Published 8/26 (Wed) 5:27 PM

    CBC Television

    Ichinomiya Municipal Hospital in Aichi Prefecture operated on the wrong leg, and has agreed to settle by paying 5.5 million yen in damages.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:55
    It's Ichinomiya City for you, lol
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:02
    Man, what a mistake…
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Artificial bone in both legs now — rehab's gonna be brutal, isn't it?
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:55
    How does a mistake like that even happen?
    110AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:13
    Re: #4
    When I went to the JSDF Central Hospital, they casually mixed up left and right on my X-ray too.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:56
    Do people in their 80s even need surgery like that in the first place?
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Re: #11
    Apparently if they don't, there's a real risk of ending up bedridden.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:01
    (´・ω・`) They should really mark the leg with a circle or an X in marker before surgery.
    102AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    Re: #33
    They actually do that already.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:01
    It says they mixed up the words 'right' and 'left' on the chart — guess nobody actually checked the imaging.
    83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:09
    Re: #34
    Unbelievable… even that old 'Turn the Indian to the right' mistranslation meme (a famous Windows dialog-box translation blunder) at least got 'right' correct.
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:07
    Honestly, kind of a free tune-up, no? Like straight-up cyberpsychosis (the Cyberpunk term for going haywire from too many implants).
    101AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    Re: #69
    'Femoral neck fracture.' Both legs now — will she even be able to walk again?
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:10
    This kind of thing happens on a regular basis — why is there still no system to prevent it?
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:13
    Re: #89
    The doctor in charge just got it backwards lol
    And went ahead with the surgery anyway lol
    Fully convinced his own mistake was the truth the whole time lol
    213AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:34
    Re: #89
    Looking from the feet, it's the right
    Looking from the pillow side, it's the left
    Looking from the side, it's… whichever's closer
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11
    This is rough. This doctor's on the same level as a dentist — and with dentists, whatever they do to you, you just have to eat it.
    106AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:13
    Re: #96
    Barbershops too, honestly.
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:15
    For elderly people, if you break a bone and have surgery, you need rehab or you won't walk again. In this case she'll need the surgery redone on top of it — 5.5 million yen feels way too cheap as compensation.
    127AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Re: #120
    Read Re: #1, lol
    It's already a done deal lol
    139AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:19
    Normally, a hospital holds onto every piece of evidence from a medical accident. So they could've just quietly redone the surgery in secret and no one would ever know. The fact that this hospital had the integrity not to take that route… honestly, that's moving.
    178AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:27
    Re: #139
    If the fracture site had gone necrotic, worst case they'd have had to amputate the whole leg — that would've given it away eventually. Actually, the tech who took the post-op X-ray must've been the most shaken. You take the pre-op X-ray, confirm the fracture, then take the post-op X-ray and there's an artificial femoral head sitting in the opposite leg.
    151AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:22
    A femoral neck fracture is when the 'neck' at the top of the thighbone breaks and shifts, cutting off blood flow, which makes natural healing basically impossible — that's why they do a hip hemiarthroplasty (artificial femoral head replacement).

    So… was the doctor drinking on the job or something?
    184AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:28
    Re: #151
    Both legs looked kind of worn out to the naked eye anyway lol
    Let's just go with that story lol
    170AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Basically like they gave her a free implant on the other leg too. Lucky her.
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:27
    Re: #170
    Big bones are important organs. An artificial bone loses that function entirely. The downsides massively outweigh any so-called benefit.
    173AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    The other day, a lady in her 70s from my neighborhood fell off a roughly 40cm-high stool while reaching for something on a shelf. Just from that one fall she apparently broke her right femur and an arm bone, and her daughter was really down about the chance she'd end up bedridden for good… You hear about elderly people's health collapsing all at once after a fracture like this constantly, so the grandma in Re: #1 really got dealt a rough hand…
    186AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:28
    Re: #173
    Why even use a stool for something out of reach… I really don't want to get that careless when I'm old.
    192AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:30
    A broken femur in an elderly person can be directly life-threatening, so surgery is necessary even if the patient ends up bedridden regardless.
    202AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:31
    Re: #192
    Oh, so she's bedridden either way? I assumed the surgery was so she could walk again.
    204AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    Probably a hospital where the nurses, techs, and doctors just don't communicate.

    Nurse: 'Um, doctor, that's the wrong side—'
    Doctor: 'Never mind, just be quiet.'

    Something like that, probably.
    227AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:39
    Re: #204
    In my case, the radiology tech was on the phone furiously protesting, explaining why the scan couldn't be done — but the doctor forced it through anyway, and I got put into the MRI with a metal halo vest still bolted to my head. I passed out three seconds in and they had to stop the scan. The doctor faced zero consequences. That's when I saw what the medical profession is really like.
    205AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    This probably isn't a rise in medical errors — it's just that they're easier to catch now.
    206AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    I woke up from anesthesia once too, and my left arm had turned into a hand cannon lol
    218AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:35
    Re: #206
    Dyne… you're still alive?
    223AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    Can't they just visually confirm before swapping the bone in?
    229AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:40
    Re: #223
    They can — and they do. Depending on how the bone broke, they remove the section that's lost blood flow, shape the cut surface at the fracture site, insert the artificial femoral head, and fuse it to the patient's own bone.

    So they do check the fracture site — just after it's already been removed.

    Background and Key Points

    Ichinomiya Municipal Hospital is a public general hospital in Ichinomiya, Aichi Prefecture, one of many mid-sized municipal hospitals that handle routine orthopedic trauma for Japan’s rapidly aging population. The injury involved, a femoral neck fracture, is a break at the narrow “neck” of the thighbone that typically severs its blood supply, meaning the bone cannot heal on its own; the standard treatment for elderly patients is a hemiarthroplasty, replacing the femoral head with an artificial implant, because leaving it untreated risks permanent bedridden status or death from complications of immobility. Surgical site marking, drawing a circle or X on the correct limb before surgery, is a well-established safety step in Japanese hospitals as elsewhere, and the hospital confirmed to posters that this procedure was in fact followed here.

    The thread’s real disagreement was less about the mix-up itself, which most treated as baffling but explicable, and more about the money: several posters argued 5.5 million yen is far too low given that the patient now needs a second, corrective surgery on top of the original fracture, an added ordeal for an elderly body, and one poster raised the more sympathetic view that a hospital which came forward instead of quietly redoing the operation deserves some credit.

    What the thread doesn’t spell out is that this was not a “free” fix on the healthy leg: an artificial hip is a functional loss, not a bonus, since it replaces living, self-repairing bone with a fixed implant, and the untreated fracture on the correct leg still awaits its own operation.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from excerpts of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Left/Right] Wrong Leg Operated On… Medical Error Implants ‘Artificial Bone’ in Non-Fractured Leg, Discovered via Post-Op X-ray, Ichinomiya Municipal Hospital, Aichi.”

  • No New Tales Games in Sight — 5ch: ‘Both the IP and Its Fans Are Just Getting Old’

    On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry board, a discussion broke out over why Bandai Namco’s popular “Tales of” RPG series hasn’t had a proper new entry in recent years. Posters pointed to competition from Chinese RPGs like Genshin Impact and frustration with the sales strategy of skipping Nintendo platforms for new releases, while opinions split over comparisons of worldwide cumulative sales with the Persona series.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:22
    You could already hear the death knell after Zestiria, but Berseria redeemed the series with a god-tier scenario, then after Arise—a decently safe entry—there's been zero sign of anything since.
    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:23
    Back in the day everyone used to talk about Tales games.
    Now you don't even hear the word "Tales" anymore.
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:26
    Tales of the Shire and Tales of Kenzera are still coming out though.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:27
    Both the content IP and its audience are just getting old.
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:28
    Because Bandai Namco refuses to change its milk-it-for-all-its-worth mindset.
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:29
    The combat gets tedious around the midgame.
    If you're just trying to clear it, you just spam your strongest move over and over, and the newer games even have pay-to-win moves now, which kills the mood.
    Flashing microtransaction banners mid-game is the height of stupidity.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:30
    It fell from grace the moment it went exclusive to the "losing" platform, PlayStation.
    And now there's no new game at all.
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    "Owakon" (washed-up/dead content) is itself washed-up content by now.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:32
    It lost ground to Genshin Impact, its direct rival in anime-style RPGs,
    and then a steady stream of other Chinese games kept popping up after that.
    The odds are stacked way too high against launching a brand-new mainline entry to compete now.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:47
    Re: #14
    On top of that, I think it'd end up fighting over fans with idolmaster.
    What Bandai Namco should really be doing is developing games aimed at elementary and middle school boys.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:33
    The price of snubbing Nintendo hardware is that no fresh blood comes in, so it just ages and declines.
    It's not just Tales—Final Fantasy and every other third party fixated on "garbage-station" (PlayStation) are all turning into dead content for the same reason.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:33
    It's the producer's fault, seriously, the producer's.
    Makes sense—he's got a track record of carefully running God Eater (GE) into the ground too.
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:37
    Re: #16
    I still haven't forgiven them for never releasing Rage Burst for PSP.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:34
    Because the producer who actually had passion for it left.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:35
    They oversaturated the market way too much, no matter how you slice it.
    I just can't bring myself to pick one up anymore.
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:35
    Falcom took its seat. They should've kept releasing games steadily.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:40
    Releasing a new one every year used to be its whole strength.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Re: #25
    Remasters do come out, but since everyone knows new entries won't come to Nintendo hardware, they don't sell all that well.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:50
    As a fan, I'd have preferred they kept churning out new entries steadily like they did under producer Baba.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:53
    Re: #33
    Being that energetic/prolific was actually a good thing back then.
    Though typing it out now, it just reads badly lol
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:56
    Come to think of it, wasn't the scenario for this game written by a woman?
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:22
    Re: #37
    Tales scenarios have always been written by men.
    The one exception is Destiny 2, credited to the writing collective "Koubou Gekkou," so there might've been a woman in there somewhere, but that's about it.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Xeno-envy again huh.
    Xenoblade's got a new entry coming out next year after all.
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:17
    Re: #62
    Though it's not generating any buzz at all lol
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:18
    I bought Arise with high hopes but it just didn't do it for me.
    JRPGs don't sell these days anyway, so they should ditch the genre and put out a Dragon Ball RPG instead—way better move.
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:25
    Re: #65
    It'd be bad if it just reinforced the image that Bandai Namco is a company with nothing but Dragon Ball and Gundam.
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:19
    There are people who didn't like Arise…?
    It's seriously about as by-the-book/classic as it gets.
    If that wasn't good enough, then literally every JRPG is doomed.
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:32
    Re: #66
    Being "classic" is Arise's only real virtue.
    It's like a 5/10 on story, 5/10 on characters, 5/10 on combat—
    you never feel the developers' passion, that "this is what we love" energy.
    On that front, I personally found Star Ocean 6 more interesting.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    True, for Persona—
    > The Persona 5 series surpassed 10 million units in worldwide cumulative sales as of December 2023
    —that's what they say, but if you break it down:
    > Persona 5 (original): 3.2 million+ worldwide
    > Persona 5 Royal (P5R): 4 million+ worldwide (including ports)
    > Persona 5 Scramble (P5S): 2 million+ worldwide
    I'd guess most of that is the same people buying multiple versions.
    So in the end, the actual number of unique buyers probably tops out somewhere between 4 and, at most, 5 million.
    Well, that's still obviously more than Tales, but on a global scale it's not exactly a runaway smash hit either.
    105AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:43
    Re: #89
    Right now it's 3.2 million for the original + 8.66 million for the complete edition, so 11.86 million total.
    I bet the complete edition alone will hit 10 million by next year.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:38
    More than the release gaps, the biggest factor is probably that more games similar to Tales have shown up.
    Tales in particular seems to have taken a direct hit from Chinese games.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:39
    Re: #93
    Yeah, anime-style characters with lightweight action combat—that's a pretty exact overlap.
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:39
    www.famitsu.com/news/201505/08078106.html?page=3
    ——Let me push on just one more thing. Some users have suggested that the scenario may have been altered out of favoritism toward a particular voice actor…?

    Baba: That is absolutely not the case. The story and gameplay of the "Tales of" series are built by the entire development team through repeated discussion. If I or certain staff members had let personal feelings or pressure influence things, the team itself would have fallen apart, and there's no way we could have kept the "Tales of" series going to this day. Past, present, and future, the team has always developed these games together as one.
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:42
    Re: #95
    > At the end of the "After Episode," a "To be continued." message appears—that's meant to indicate it leads into the ending of the main Zestiria story.

    People were just mocking the abrupt, thrown-together ending as a "To be continued," it's not like that message actually shows up in-game…
    99AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:41
    The president says they'll keep re-releasing old Tales titles, but that's just money down the drain.
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:43
    Re: #99
    The plan is to only put ports on Nintendo hardware, withhold new entries as a "serves you right," and funnel customers to the PS5—but that's probably not going to work.
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:48
    What's needed right now is the kind of shock it'd be to suddenly drop AKIRA into a magazine still running stuff like "High School! Kimengumi" and "Gu-Gu Ganmo."

    This isn't the time to be saying "Patalliro's selling, let's rip that off."
    115AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:49
    Is anyone actually still buying Eternia?
    117AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:50
    Re: #115
    What's the point of asking if people buy something that only creepy otaku ever bought to begin with.

    Background and Key Points

    The “Tales of” series is Bandai Namco’s other long-running console RPG franchise, alongside Persona at rival Atlus — it began with Tales of Phantasia in 1995 and became known for near-annual mainline releases through the 2000s and 2010s under producer Hideo Baba, plus a steady stream of remasters and side entries. That release rhythm broke down after Baba’s departure from the company around 2018, and Tales of Arise, released in 2021 to solid reviews and reportedly over 2 million copies sold, is still the most recent mainline game — nothing new has been announced since. The series also quietly dropped Nintendo hardware support for new entries starting in the PS3-era Xillia, unlike stablemates such as Final Fantasy that still cross platforms.

    The thread doesn’t actually agree on why Tales stalled. Some blame Bandai Namco’s platform strategy of chasing PlayStation exclusivity while Nintendo hardware only gets old ports; others blame competition from free-to-play Chinese anime-style RPGs like Genshin Impact, which target the same visual and combat niche at zero upfront cost; still others think Arise itself was mediocre — “5/10 across the board” — while a counter-camp insists Arise is a perfectly solid, classic JRPG and that damning it means the whole genre is doomed.

    What’s easy to miss without Japanese-market context: the “new” titles posters cite, Tales of the Shire and Tales of Kenzera, aren’t mainline Bandai Namco RPGs at all — Shire is a Lord of the Rings life-sim spinoff and Kenzera is an unrelated Surgent Studios game that merely shares the word “Tales.” Neither answers the thread’s actual complaint.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Why Has Tales Become Such Washed-Up Content, or “Owakon” for Short???.”

  • Snow Man’s Abe Ryohei Passes Level 2 Financial Planner Exam — 5ch Users Rattle Off Celebrities’ Surprising Side Qualifications

    Snow Man’s Abe Ryohei revealed on a TV show that he passed the Level 2 Financial Planner exam. The news sparked a flurry of replies on 5ch listing celebrities’ surprising qualifications, from lyricist Kitayama Osamu’s medical license to comedian Savanna Yagi’s Level 1 Financial Planner certification and Tanaka Michiko’s first-class architect license.

    Wed, Aug 26, 11:00 AM

    Snow Man’s Abe Ryohei announced that he had passed the Level 2 Financial Planner exam during the August 14 broadcast of the two-hour special “Sore Snow Man ni Yarasete Kudasai” (lit. “Please Let Snow Man Do It,” TBS). As part of a segment where the losing team had to reveal fresh info likely to become internet news, Abe confessed, “There’s a qualification I’ve been studying for since last year… I passed the Level 2 Financial Planner exam.” His fellow members and co-stars erupted with cries of “Amazing!”, and Abe pumped his fist with a beaming smile.

    The Financial Planner certification requires expert knowledge of tax systems, various types of insurance, pension systems, and asset management in order to help map out a person’s financial life plan. Abe is also known for holding a range of other qualifications, including a weather forecaster license and the Level 1 World Heritage Study Certification.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
    Watching Koizumi Yu on YouTube beats watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park any day (Peace-kun: a livestreamed swan mascot at Omiya Park; Koizumi Yu: a popular military-affairs commentator).
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Lol, even comedian Savanna Yagi has an FP (Financial Planner) certification.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:08
    Re: #3
    Level 1 would be rare even for a regular person.
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:42
    Re: #3
    So what do you have, then?
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:47
    Re: #3
    Level 1 and Level 2 are completely different.
    Well, even if you have one, it's not that big a deal.
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Lyricist Kitayama Osamu — medical license
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Savanna Yagi — Level 1 Certified Skilled Financial Planner
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:05
    Tanaka Michiko's first-class architect license, maybe.
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Re: #7
    The rough part is that just puts him on par with Ikechan.
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:06
    Kageyama Yuka being a Mensa member is the most impressive one.
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:55
    Re: #10
    But she's only a high school grad.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:06
    Kotake Seigikan has some kind of qualification too, right?
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:30
    Re: #11
    Not famous enough (to make the list).
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    Lawyer qualifications haven't meant much since law schools were introduced.
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    Re: #14
    The bar exam pass rate for law school grads is actually low.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Re: #14
    So what are your credentials, then? ( ´,_ゝ`)
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:08
    Isn't GRe4N BOYZ (formerly GReeeeN) — where every member is a licensed dentist — the strongest example?
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:59
    Re: #15
    Wait, GReeeeN goes by that name now?
    That's the part that surprised me most, lol
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:09
    What about Nishikawa, the doctor from Heipo's apology letter (referencing a doctor named in a past public apology by TV personality Heipo)?
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:09
    These days there's a ton of comedians who are doctors, lawyers, CPAs, first-class architects — it's almost a joke at this point.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:10
    Morishita Chisato also had some kind of financial planner certification, I think.
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:42
    Re: #22
    Politicians have plenty of doctors, lawyers, and accountants too.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:10
    Re: #19
    There's been news about a glut of lawyers who can't make ends meet, lol
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:11
    There's also Inagawa Junji.
    And I feel like Takada Junji had something too.
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    Re: #26
    Takada Junji used to work selling jewelry,
    so it's probably something related to gem appraisal.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    If Inaba had become a teacher, most of the female students probably would've had heart-eyes for him.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Re: #29
    Should we go consult Matsumoto about it?
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:14
    Apparently with Eiken Level 1 (Japan's top-tier English proficiency test), even native speakers see some of the vocab and go, 'wait, is that even a word?'
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:45
    Re: #33
    The Canadian couple (native English speakers) I did a homestay with looked at the Level 1 test questions and said, 'There's no way we'd get a perfect score!'
    Anyone who passes that is impressive, I think.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:14
    What about Kotake Seigikan?
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:15
    I heard Yamazaki Kunimasa has some impressive qualification.
    77AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:32
    Re: #37
    Wasn't it the Class II Information Processing Engineer exam? Not totally sure though.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:15
    So if the principal at his student-teaching placement hadn't messed up, Inaba would've become a teacher and B'z never would've existed?

    Life is wild.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:17
    Re: #38
    B'z would still exist
    just with a different vocalist.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:26
    Anyone here a doctor?
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:28
    Re: #67
    'Chuken Tate-Hachi-kou' (wordplay on 'Chuken Hachiko,' the famous loyal-dog statue)
    117AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:59

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s Financial Planner system is a tiered national exam (FP技能士), not a single test. Level 3 is entry-level, Level 2 typically requires either clearing Level 3 first or two years of related work experience, and Level 1 is the advanced tier that only a small fraction of applicants ever attempt. The certification covers tax law, insurance, pensions, and asset-management planning, and it exists alongside a separate but overlapping AFP/CFP track run by a different body. None of this is obscure to Japanese viewers because “qualification-collecting” (資格) is a recognizable subgenre of celebrity self-promotion on variety shows — TV personalities routinely reveal licenses in medicine, architecture, or finance as a way to seem diligent and multitalented, and Abe’s own resume (weather forecaster, World Heritage Study Level 1) fits that established pattern rather than being a one-off surprise.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t about Abe at all — it was about how much a Level 2 FP credential is worth. Posters citing Savanna Yagi’s Level 1 certification argued that only Level 1 is genuinely rare, while others flatly said Level 2, though respectable, “isn’t that big a deal.” A parallel argument broke out over whether elite licenses in general (lawyer, doctor) still signal much, given posts about Japan’s post-law-school glut of underemployed attorneys.

    What outsiders likely miss is the scale gap the thread itself never spelled out in numbers: Level 2 FP has a pass rate commonly in the 40–50% range, whereas Level 1’s written exam sits far lower — so “Level 2” reads as competent hobbyist knowledge, not a rare feat, despite the celebratory studio reaction.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “Ranking of ‘Celebrities with Amazing Qualifications’ — Who’s the ‘Absurdly Impressive Person’ Who Topped Even B’z’s Inaba Koshi?“.

  • iLiFE!’s K-Arena Show Draws 40,000 Livestream Viewers — 5ch: ‘Hello! Project Has Nothing Left to Win At’

    Tickets for idol group iLiFE!’s K-Arena show sold out instantly, and the free live stream on YouTube drew over 40,000 viewers. On the forum, opinions were split between praise for the live vocals and staging quality, comparisons to veteran group Hello! Project, and debate over whether the free-streaming strategy was the right call.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:24
    [iLiFE!] K-Arena show 'MEGALiFE!' [Live stream]
    youtube.com/watch?v=JcJ1EFKpB_8
    Over 40,000 people watching right now
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:25
    I wonder what Chinme Nodoka is up to these days
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:25
    The live vocals are seriously solid, and both the songs and the staging are amazing
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:26
    First time listening to them and the singing was so bad I burst out laughing
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:29
    Re: #5
    Live vocals, staging, production budget, entertainment value, individuality —
    iLiFE! is leagues ahead of Hello! Project in every single one.
    And they're pulling this kind of crowd and viewer count with almost zero TV/media exposure.
    Hello! Project has nothing left to win at.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    That's because they can pour serious money into it thanks to crowdfunding
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:34
    Is it really okay that it's been nothing but killer tracks since the very start?
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:34
    I think iLiFE! is headed for Tokyo Dome
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:35
    Looks like it's got a ton of older male otaku fans ("oji-wota")
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:37
    Re: #17
    Heroines has a lot of young fans, but Hello! Project's fanbase aging is a serious problem
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:36
    Never seen them on a music show — are they actually popular?
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:40
    Re: #19
    Even without getting on network TV or picked up by the media, they keep growing their audience and moving into bigger venues purely on the strength of their songs and performances — that's why people call them 'the real deal.'
    If network TV ever catches on, a hollow facade like Kawara Lab will collapse overnight.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:40
    Why livestream it for free?
    The people willing to spend money are probably already there in person
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Re: #31
    Isn't it because the big spenders are already there in person?
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Re: #31
    Wake up, this is actually a smart strategy nowadays
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:45
    Even Hello! Project would rake it in if they crowdfunded
    Tamura alone pulled in 28 million yen
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:47
    Re: #48
    There's nobody like that in Hello! Project right now
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:46
    Are they even profitable doing this?
    Feels like Up-Front (their management company) is the one making the money
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:48
    Re: #51
    Hello! Project only worked because it had Hello! otaku doing free promotion for it
    But all of those fans are old now
    They're dying off one by one
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:48
    Re: #51
    Looking at this, Hello! Project seems like it must be running at a loss — is it going to be okay?
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:46
    Hello! Project slaps a paywall on everything and stays closed off — that's exactly why it's a 'closed' fandom
    Nobody in the Reiwa era has even heard of Hello! Project

    Doing it this way — going free and opening up — means they're paying out of their own pocket to invest in the future
    This management is incredibly capable
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:48
    Re: #52
    Yeah, Hello! Project really does have a narrow entry point
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:50
    Re: #52
    The president and management genuinely believe in themselves
    That they'll definitely become mainstream someday
    People who believe are the ones who change the world
    This management is incredibly capable
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:50
    Hello! Project does two hall shows and earns steadily, though
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:51
    Re: #60
    Isn't that basically exactly what underground idol groups do? Kind of embarrassing, no?
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:52
    Heroines and Kawara Lab go for 'short and intense,' while Hello! Project goes for 'slow and steady'
    73AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:53
    Re: #68
    Why am I the reference point? They're almost at their 30th anniversary
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:55
    Re: #73
    Because everyone's the same age as you
    It's been 30 years, so they're all 60 or 70 now
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:58
    It's giving 'OCHA NORMA, but can actually sing' vibes (OCHA NORMA is a Hello! Project subgroup)
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:59
    Re: #90
    Right, that 'riding on pure energy' vibe is similar
    Good enunciation too — feels like the finished, polished version of OCHA NORMA
    106AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:02
    Their live singing skill just floored me
    There's no competing with this
    107AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:03
    Re: #106
    That's because they perform live constantly
    They're out there fighting on the battlefield nonstop
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:04
    Re: #107
    Your voice actually develops from that
    Same as practicing guitar every day makes you better — your voice keeps developing too
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:05
    Re: #109
    Comedians use their voice every day, so their voices develop a ton — that's why comedians are all good singers
    You have to actually work your voice or it won't develop
    Hello! Project barely even sings
    It's a completely different amount of stage experience

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project is Tsunku’s idol franchise, run by Up-Front Group since the late 1990s and now closing in on its 30th anniversary — a lineage that includes Morning Musume and newer units like OCHA NORMA, referenced directly in the thread as a comparison point. It built its fanbase in an era of TV variety exposure and paywalled fan-club content, a “closed” model that made sense when Japan’s idol otaku culture ran through cable music shows and physical event tickets. iLiFE! represents a different, YouTube-and-crowdfunding-era approach: no music-show presence, but a sold-out arena show simulcast free to 40,000+ viewers, funded in part by direct fan contributions (one backer, Tamura, reportedly gave 28 million yen).

    The thread’s actual disagreement isn’t really “is iLiFE! good” — most posters concede the live vocals and staging are strong. It splits on interpretation: some read the free livestream as visionary, growth-minded management eating short-term cost for long-term reach; others suspect it’s simply because the paying core audience already bought arena tickets, making the stream a low-risk bonus rather than strategy. A second, quieter split is generational — whether Hello! Project’s struggles reflect an aging, graying fandom versus a genuinely outdated business model.

    What’s likely to trip up non-Japanese readers is Hello! Project’s revenue structure: it isn’t primarily livestream or YouTube driven at all, but built on ticketed “two hall shows,” merchandise, and subscription fan clubs — a model the thread mocks as small-scale but that has sustained the franchise for decades without needing viral reach. No poster addresses whether iLiFE!’s free-content approach is actually profitable, or just growth spending underwritten by management.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “iLiFE! Instantly Sells Out K-Arena, Currently Livestreaming on YouTube.”

  • Actor “Shin Serina” and Tokuryu Gang Leader Arrested for Drug Possession at Hotel

    In a hotel room in Toshima Ward, Tokyo, actress Seika Abe (27), who had been working under the stage name “Shin Serina,” and Shota Sugawara (32), a senior member of a Kobe Yamaguchi-gumi-affiliated crime syndicate, were arrested on suspicion of possessing cocaine. On 5ch forums, users were stunned to learn that Abe was a former competitive swimmer with experience at the Junior Olympics, and that she had gone through a string of stage-name changes — “Serina Asahi,” then “Serina Tsutsumi” — since debuting in adult videos.

    Tue, Aug 25, 7:17 PM

    A man described as the top figure in a “tokuryu” (a loosely organized, ad-hoc crime network, as opposed to a traditional yakuza syndicate) and a woman working as an actress were arrested for possessing cocaine in a hotel room in Toshima Ward, Tokyo.

    Arrested on suspicion of violating the Narcotics Control Act were Shota Sugawara (32), a senior member of a Kobe Yamaguchi-gumi-affiliated crime syndicate, and Seika Abe (27), who works as an actress under the name “Shin Serina.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Who was the "old Serina"?
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:53
    Re: #5
    After that she went freelance, switched agencies a couple times, changed her name to Serina Asahi and then Serina Tsutsumi, and now she's working under the name Shin Serina.
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Ending up busted for drugs, of all things…
    Turns out this "tokuryu" crowd isn't that impressive after all.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    Re: #6
    Once a guy gets money and power, all he really does is drink, eat, and chase women.
    Maybe torture-murder as a hobby too (like Epstein).
    Though they say the real top guys don't touch drugs.
    This one's using, so he's probably just small fry.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:53
    Yakuza lol Drugs lol AV actress lol
    Textbook combo right there lol
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:54
    ACTOR LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    Re: #9
    I thought "Shin Serina" meant that guy.
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:06
    Re: #13
    Kind of like the Kasei Taishu thing (a famous case of two people fighting over rights to the same stage name).
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    Wow. So we've reached the era where AV actresses get called "actors" in the news. Using the same word for the underground job and the mainstream one — we've really hit rock bottom.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    Re: #16
    Maybe she doesn't want the "mainstream" label.
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
    The set isn't complete until she makes her comeback as "Real Serina."
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    Re: #21
    It'd have to be written in katakana as "SHIN Serina" for that (like the "Shin" in Shin Godzilla).
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
    Guess it's the era where AV actresses call themselves "actors" now…
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Meanwhile in Brazil they practically hand out little baggies of coke for free on the beach.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Wait, the Yamaguchi-gumi was behind this "tokuryu" thing?
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:00
    This is making me reconsider my porn-watching hobby a bit.
    Gonna lay off it for a while.
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:00
    This year's buzzword of the year: "Tokuryu" or "Riku-Ryu"? (wordplay — "tokuryu," the term for loosely organized crime groups, sounds like "Riku-Ryu," the nickname for figure skating pair Miura/Kihara)
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:03
    Arina Hashimoto rebranding herself as "Shin Arina" is such a headache (another AV actress who did the same name-change trend).
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:05
    Re: #51
    Seriously, that's exactly what I thought too.
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Yakuza, AV, "jab" (probably meant "shabu," slang for meth), tokuryu —
    there's no escaping this lineup at this point, so maybe it's for the best she got caught?
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    Re: #56
    lol a boxer snuck into that list somehow
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:06
    Nobody even knows this super-obscure AV actress anyway.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:06
    Once you start falling, it happens fast.
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    Wasn't she some kind of elite swimming prospect before going into AV?
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    She worked so hard to become an actress, and now her parents are probably in tears.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    Isn't the usual term for this "sexy actress" or something?
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:07
    Oh, it's not about Riku-Ryu? Boring.
    89AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:11
    Re: #78
    Reality is setting in
    139AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:25
    Around the same time, another swimmer debuted in AV too, but that one was the real deal — she was even shown training alongside Rikako Ikee in an NHK documentary.
    143AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:26
    Re: #139
    This one's the real deal too.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s National Police Agency began using the term “tokuryu” (匿流, short for “anonymous and fluid criminal groups”) around 2023 to describe crime networks that recruit members ad hoc through social media and encrypted apps for one-off jobs — scams, robberies, drug deals — rather than through the lifelong hierarchical membership of a traditional yakuza syndicate like the Yamaguchi-gumi. The two categories are officially treated as distinct, which is what makes this case odd: Sugawara is described both as a senior figure in a Kobe Yamaguchi-gumi-linked syndicate and as a “tokuryu” leader, blurring a line police and media have worked hard to draw. No poster in the thread engages with that overlap; they treat “yakuza” and “tokuryu” as interchangeable punchlines, when the more interesting story is that old-guard organized crime appears to be operating through these looser, harder-to-prosecute networks.

    The thread’s actual disagreement is narrower than it looks: most posts pile onto the word “actor” being used for an AV performer, and separately mock Sugawara as evidence that “tokuryu” bosses are less formidable than the label implies (one commenter arguing real bosses avoid drugs, so a user is by definition low-ranking). Abe’s repeated stage-name changes are presented as scandalous, but this is standard practice in Japan’s AV industry when performers switch agencies, since names are often owned by the agency rather than the performer, and the 2022 Act on Protection of Adult Video Performers now formally regulates this contractual churn — context the thread never raises.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “Actor Shin Serina and Tokuryu Leader Suspected of Drug Possession — Used Cocaine Bag Found on Hotel Bed.”

  • Hiroshi and the Manufacturer at the Center of the Controversy File a Police Report — 5ch: ‘The Fire Pit Known as Hiroshi’

    A dispute has erupted over the design of a fire pit that comedian Hiroshi commissioned, with outdoor gear manufacturer “Warai’s” announcing it would file a police report over what it calls reputational damage. The thread is split over whether the criticism should be directed at Hiroshi himself or at the devoted fans who slandered the company in his defense, and it also sparked legal debate over design rights and the requirements for establishing defamation.

    Wed, Aug 26, 16:25

    Outdoor gear manufacturer “Warai’s” updated its X account on the 26th, announcing it would file a police report in connection with its dispute with comedian Hiroshi.

    Hiroshi, a pioneer of the “solo camping” boom, posted on X on the 17th of this month that he’d run into trouble: “I commissioned an original fire pit. I presented the specific shape I wanted made. The company I commissioned began production. Partway through making it, the manufacturer said it was going to start selling the same design itself.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:53
    This is a thread to hold a memorial service for Hiroshi's devoted fans.
    Leave your words of condolence.
    77AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:09
    Re: #2
    But the one thing Hiroshi did succeed at was turning everything he'd built up into kindling, and using it as fuel to complete a magnificent fire pit that's been blazing away for days now — the fire pit known as Hiroshi. 😭🙏🏻
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    So they're not filing it against Hiroshi himself?
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:13
    Re: #8
    Obviously not, this is a separate matter.
    172AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:25
    Re: #8
    The "waited over a week with no response" part is probably about people on Hiroshi's side, so they might be filing against the ringleaders who stirred it all up too.
    196AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:28
    Re: #8
    So their in-house legal team decided they can't win against Hiroshi himself. The targets are just the idiots who got carried away and piled on.
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    With stuff like this, whoever files the patent first wins.
    Doesn't matter who actually came up with the idea.
    215AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Re: #10
    Is this even patentable content? Feels more like utility-model territory. And if they never registered one, anyone's free to make and sell similar products.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:56
    Isn't there a lot of Hiroshi-bashing going on?
    On X it's all criticism of the manufacturer.

    Are there a bunch of shills on 5ch?
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
    Re: #12
    On Twitter too, criticism of Hiroshi is the majority view.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
    Re: #12
    On my X feed, Hiroshi-bashing is overwhelming, so that's just the algorithm for you.
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    Re: #12
    Why not consider that X might just have a lot of fan brigading going on (ファンネル, "funnel" — slang, from Gundam remote weapons, for fans mass-attacking on someone's behalf)?
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    This whole thing creeps me out — I will never buy anything from this company.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:00
    Re: #25
    They've already filed a police report, you know.
    213AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:31
    Re: #25
    You've never bought anything from them even once lol
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    I think they'd be better off just selling fire extinguishers.
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
    Re: #28
    You're amazing. MVP of the thread today.
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Re: #28
    The No. 164 portable camping fire extinguisher isn't bad lol
    81AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:10
    Shouldn't suing Hiroshi for defamation come first?
    Something feels off here — like they're deliberately dodging the real issue.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:11
    Re: #81
    That's one thing, this is another.
    112AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:14
    Re: #81
    They need to gather evidence of actual damages first.
    Then they can get the police moving with a police report plus a criminal complaint.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    Staying silent is probably the smart move.
    The manufacturer's just going to end up with a negative image that never goes away.
    101AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:13
    Re: #96
    Even though not apologizing could turn this into a criminal case?
    111AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:13
    Re: #96
    Well, the moment someone's indicted for insult (侮辱罪), given how strict things are about compliance these days, that's it — they'll get dropped from shows and forced into self-restraint.
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:15
    Aren't a lot of people misunderstanding this?
    This isn't about suing Hiroshi — it's the idiot fans and the people who posted slander who are getting sued.
    131AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:17
    Re: #122
    Probably. I think the ones getting sued are the people who slandered Warai's while trying to defend Hiroshi.
    135AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:18
    Re: #122,131
    No, they suffered reputational damage because of Hiroshi's post, so it has to be against Hiroshi.
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:16
    Re: #111
    Hard to say. Since Hiroshi doesn't really make his living off TV anymore, wouldn't this barely affect him?
    Going by what both sides are saying, it looks like a six-of-one situation.
    Though the manufacturer's negative image is probably beyond saving at this point.
    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:18
    Re: #131
    Like this guy, for instance 👉 Re: #125
    197AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:28
    Re: #125
    m9(^д^) [mocking point-and-laugh emoticon] There's no running from this.
    130AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:17
    ・"It's strange they didn't sign a contract before starting work."
    ・"Why did they develop it without permission when there was no contact?"
    ・"They're saying they improved it and released it, but isn't that basically an admission?"
    Phrasing like this falls close to what's classified as "opinion/commentary."
    It would likely be treated as "criticism based on the publicly disclosed facts," making it unlikely a disclosure request would be granted.

    By contrast, definitive factual assertions like:
    ・"Company X committed a crime"
    ・"Company X is a scam company"
    ・"Company X stole intellectual property"
    would make a disclosure request much more likely to succeed.
    137AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:18
    Re: #130
    The people who were attacking Hiroshi are screwed, aren't they?
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:27
    Re: #130
    If anything, when it comes to the 5ch threads, it's basically nothing but posts that would get you sued by Hiroshi for defamation if he wanted to.
    139AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:18
    Hiroshi just came up with the idea — it was the manufacturer that actually turned it into a real product, right?
    Unless Hiroshi holds the design rights or they signed a contract to that effect, the manufacturer should be free to do as it likes.
    142AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:19
    Re: #139
    It wasn't even really an idea, more like a request/wish-list level thing.
    147AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:20
    Re: #142
    Calling that "stolen" is a stretch lol
    149AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:20
    Has Hiroshi said absolutely nothing about this since then?
    154AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:22
    Re: #149
    Total silence — he's just posting his own videos and sponsor promos like nothing happened.

    Background and Key Points

    Hiroshi (real name Hiroshi Shinagawa) built his post-manzai second career as Japan’s most visible face of “solo camping” (ソロキャンプ), turning a one-man tent-and-fire lifestyle into a YouTube and merchandising business; this dispute is significant precisely because his credibility as a gear-endorsing outdoorsman is the asset at stake. 5ch (formerly 2channel) is Japan’s largest anonymous forum, and threads like this one compile reactions to a breaking news story — here, an Yahoo News piece about outdoor brand “Warai’s” announcing on X that it would file a police report (被害届) over reputational damage. Readers should also know Japan’s insult law (侮辱罪) was tightened in 2022, making online pile-ons a real criminal-liability risk, and that “disclosure of sender information” requests (発信者情報開示請求) — used to unmask anonymous posters — succeed far more easily against flat factual accusations (“they committed a crime,” “they stole IP”) than against hedged opinion (“it’s odd they started production without a contract”).

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t Hiroshi-vs-Warai’s — nearly everyone agrees the report targets overzealous fans and posters who slandered the company defending him, not Hiroshi personally. The disagreement is over blame allocation: some posters think going after fans while sparing Hiroshi is legally convenient but morally dodges the real instigator; others insist reputational harm flows from Hiroshi’s original post, so he bears responsibility regardless of who typed the insults.

    What outsiders likely miss: no contract or design registration existed between Hiroshi and Warai’s — he reportedly only requested a shape, not a finished design — meaning Japan’s utility-model (実用新案) framework, not patent law, governs whether copying is even actionable, and unregistered ideas generally aren’t protected at all.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Outdoor Gear Manufacturer in Trouble with Hiroshi Reveals Reputational Damage: “We’ve Decided to File a Police Report”.”

  • What Do ‘Easy-to-Walk-All-Over’ People Have in Common? Kindness Backfires, Body Type and Hygiene Also Blamed

    A thread on 5ch’s News Express+ board asking what “people who get walked all over” have in common took off. Posters shared stories of nurses and subordinates dumping work on them the moment they showed kindness, claims that being under 160cm makes you an easy target, and debates over the effects of hygiene and weight training. Things also took a dark turn with one ominous claim that “the common trait among murder victims is looking down on other people,” sending the thread in an unexpected direction.

    Q. Are there traits shared by “people who are easy to walk all over”?

    — Even doing the exact same things as everyone else, some people just end up getting talked down to or treated carelessly, right? It’s almost like people decide “I can say anything to this person.” Mr. Tamaru, you’ve run writing workshops for all kinds of people, from elementary schoolers to corporate trainees — from that experience, do you think there’s a common trait among people who somehow always get walked over?

    Masatomo Tamaru (hereafter, Tamaru): I see.

    Source: diamond.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:15
    So what if I get walked all over?
    What's the actual problem
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:17
    Re: #2
    It stresses you out getting pushed around, that's what
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:26
    I get walked all over, but I've got 100 million yen (~$650K) in investments.
    Since that makes it dangerous to be seen as a doormat, I'm not telling anyone — I'll just keep living as one in silence.
    166AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:49
    Re: #2
    Being treated lightly has nothing but downsides
    It obviously hurts your promotion chances too
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:17
    This is exactly why so many doctors end up disliked by nurses
    Be kind to them once and the nurses start dumping tons of work on you
    217AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    Re: #3
    Exactly right.
    Be kind and they'll hand you every annoying task.
    Make them think you're scary and they stop coming to you.
    And if you're kind but later can't keep meeting their expectations, you get hit with complaints and gossip behind your back
    225AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Re: #3 Re: #217
    Once people start walking over you in a leadership role at work, you're finished
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:18
    Weight training so I don't get walked over
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:22
    Re: #8
    Takayoshi Nishikawa: "Damn right." (T.M.Revolution frontman known for his muscular build)
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:24
    Re: #8
    You can lift all you want — if you're not clean and put-together, you'll still get walked over
    204AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    Re: #8
    Unfortunately, in white-collar jobs, muscle doesn't matter
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:19
    On the flip side, the common trait among murder victims is people who disrespect and look down on others
    Most murders come down to that
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:21
    So at the warehouse, is it that I'm the only one the staff work to the bone and yell at because they expect a lot from me, or is it because I'm actually being walked over?
    The guy doing it is a full-time employee in his mid-20s and I'm 47, so I didn't think I'd be someone people push around, but I always get yelled at and made to carry nothing but heavy stuff, with stuff like "hurry up, idiot!!" constantly
    Isn't it more likely they're just going hard on me to recommend me for a permanent position?
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:23
    Re: #19
    Don't ever lose that positive thinking
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:26
    Re: #19
    That's right, nothing to worry about at all
    193AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:53
    Re: #19
    Record it and report them to the harassment hotline
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:21
    I'm a shorty under 160cm (5'3"), so I really do get walked all over
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:25
    Re: #20
    Maybe it's from all that piling up, but I feel like short people who turn out vicious are pretty common
    181AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Re: #20
    That's why short people tend to snap a lot
    That guy's short too, and since he gets walked over at work, he's yelling every day
    It doubles as stress relief
    Being thought of as "that troublesome person" is just about the right amount
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:22
    Re: #20
    Just put on some muscle
    135AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:44
    Re: #27
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:24
    People always end up parking themselves right next to me ("tonarareru" — someone sitting or standing right beside you even when there's empty space elsewhere)
    even on train platforms
    somehow it's only the area around me that gets crowded
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:25
    Re: #35
    Do dogs and cats come up to you, or not?
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:27
    Re: #35
    Maybe you're secreting something?
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:35
    https://imgur.com/7DQKLSG.jpeg
    94AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:36
    Re: #88
    That's my junior from my Kaisei days! 🤣🤣🤣 (Kaisei — one of Japan's most elite prep schools)
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:39
    You need to be okay with being disliked
    Even if it's just an act, showing a more aggressive side makes you harder to walk over
    Kids who become bullies to avoid being bullied themselves are instinctively making that same rational calculation

    It's also important not to think of people who try to walk over you as human
    Nobody gets their feelings hurt from a stray dog barking at them (not that you see many strays these days)
    Same idea — think "oh, some trash is making noise" and you can just tune it out
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:42
    Re: #108
    A boss who steps in and backs you up when a subordinate runs into trouble doesn't get promoted
    A boss who says "that's on you" and abandons all supervisory responsibility when a subordinate runs into trouble does get promoted
    That's just how the world works
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:43
    Re: #123

    This, exactly
    Though honestly I used to think "well, some percentage of that was actually your fault"
    157AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
    Re: #123
    The type who fires people also tends to get in good with the higher-ups and get promoted
    "I can cut the fat" types are an easy sell to management
    134AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:44
    This is me last month, taken by a girl friend of mine 🤣🤣🤣
    178AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:51
    Me, 36 years ago
    That's a Sakai Moving Service jumpsuit I've got on 🤣🤣🤣
    180AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:52
    Re: #178
    My bad
    That was 32 years ago 🤣🤣🤣
    198AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:54
    This is me from earlier this month 🤣🤣🤣
    207AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    I do think Taira no Masakado had some understanding of hiragana
    The path of fortune and misfortune, and confusion, though
    211AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:56
    Re: #207
    That's the road I drove for work today 🤣🤣🤣

    Background and Key Points

    Diamond Online’s “compiled from 5ch” format packages an advice-column interview (with writing coach Masatomo Tamaru) alongside reader reactions from 5ch’s News Express+ board, one of the site’s largest general-discussion forums. The underlying workplace dynamic the thread keeps circling — a senior worker (here, doctors) extending courtesy to subordinates (nurses) only to be buried in extra tasks — reflects Japan’s steep senpai-kohai and hospital hierarchies, where niceness from someone with formal authority can read as an opening rather than a kindness. The “harassment hotline” suggestion in post 193 refers to the pawahara (power-harassment) consultation lines companies have been legally required to provide since amendments to Japan’s labor law took full effect for all employers in April 2022 — a concrete institutional backstop the poster assumed everyone would recognize.

    The thread doesn’t actually converge on one explanation. It splits three ways: kindness-as-invitation (posts 3, 217), physical stature (posts 20, 27, 33, 181, with under-160cm/5’3″ flagged as a marker, notably short since average Japanese male height is around 171cm), and sheer attitude or muscle-building, which one poster (204) dismisses outright for white-collar work.

    What’s easy to miss is how quickly the thread abandons its own question: after post 108’s genuinely dark advice about dehumanizing aggressors, the conversation dissolves into selfies, an old Sakai Moving Service uniform photo, and a non sequitur about the 10th-century rebel Taira no Masakado — a pattern typical of 5ch threads drifting from substance into in-jokes rather than resolving the original premise.

    *This article is compiled and condensed from the 5ch (News Express+) thread「The Common Trait Among People Who Somehow Always Get Walked All Over, Worst Case #1」.

  • Government Plans Tax Crackdown on Condo Flipping, Real Estate Investors Furious — 5ch: ‘They’re Just Profiting Off Other People’s Misery’

    Reports that Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) is considering tax reforms to curb speculative real estate deals like condo flipping have sparked backlash from property investors. The thread was divided over whether the regulations would actually bring prices down, and how much impact foreign buyers are really having on the market.

    MLIT requests tax reform to curb speculative condo trading, aiming to rein in soaring real estate prices

    This way to the meltdown

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
    I mean, prices in places like Tokyo and Osaka have gone way too high.
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
    I'm a real estate investor myself, but I'm in the rental business, so this doesn't touch me.
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
    Interest rates are rising too, nobody's gonna buy real estate anymore.
    Homebuilders are toast.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:30
    So does this mean real estate is about to get cheaper?
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:31
    Re: #15
    Honestly, it'll probably just stop the surge — it won't actually make prices drop
    Building materials and labor costs aren't coming down
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:33
    Re: #20
    So it's not like rice, where it just stops selling and prices start dropping
    Thanks ("サンガツ" = netspeak for "39" = thanks)
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:34
    Re: #24
    I think new-build prices won't drop, but flip/resale prices will
    Since this only regulates short-term resales, after all
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:42
    Re: #1

    Average price of a used 70㎡ condo 😢


    Tokyo: ¥120 million
    Osaka: ¥52.64 million
    Nagoya: ¥29.07 million
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:43
    Re: #53
    Going by this, Tokyo and central Osaka will probably see prices drop
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
    Re: #53
    Tokyo's stupidly expensive lol
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
    Re: #53
    Nagoya's way too cheap by comparison
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:45
    Anyway, why do prices even go up that much in the first place
    I get this stuff isn't always logical, but I can't understand people dropping ¥100 million on a tiny cramped house
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:46
    Re: #58
    Same thing happened during the bubble era
    What's propping it up is the 'land myth' (the belief that land always rises in value)
    That said, it's still cheap from a foreign buyer's perspective
    Japanese take-home pay hasn't grown at all in 30 years, so having just condo prices double is brutal
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
    Looked it up, and apparently Singapore, Canada, and Australia are doing similar things
    Well, I guess housing for citizens comes first
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:47
    Re: #67
    Now just add regulations on foreign buyers too, please
    83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:54
    Let's raise taxes on stocks too if you sell within 5 years
    87AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:55
    A lot of TV stations and anime studios make money off real estate too — is it really okay to pop the bubble?
    Wouldn't it be better to just give subsidies to people who want to live somewhere but can't afford it?
    99AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
    Re: #87
    TV stations can go under for all I care lol
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:03
    Re: #87
    That's office leasing, a different thing
    90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:57
    Re: #86
    Sounds like you've never been to a shareholders' meeting
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:58
    Re: #90
    Those things are just full of bored old people
    94AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Investment purely for flipping doesn't produce anything, so it is what it is
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:00
    Re: #94
    I'd say it generates a ton of demand and money though
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:02
    Way too many people here just sound like bitter poor folks
    If you know it's profitable, why not just do it yourself
    If I had a lump sum of cash, I'd wanna do it too
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:03
    Re: #98
    Apparently if you're a civil servant you can do it even without a down payment
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:05
    Re: #103
    They're linked, so of course the office market is gonna be affected too
    119AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:09
    Re: #109
    This just strengthens taxes on short-term capital gains from condo sales, so it won't affect office leasing — i.e., the landlord business
    121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:12
    Mo-san
    @murio1999
    ·
    4h
    If they tackled the fact that foreigners can buy so easily first, that would help curb the condo price surge too.

    Guess there are still people out there who think it's foreigners doing all the condo flipping
    Even though MLIT's own statistics show foreign nationals' real estate purchases are only a few percent
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:14
    Re: #121
    Feels like the foreign buyer ratio would be high for real estate in central Tokyo specifically though
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:13
    You just gotta actually manage the property you bought properly
    The only ones who lose out are the scum who just flip it
    128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:17
    Re: #122
    That's not quite right either
    If you seriously run a central Tokyo condo as a rental, the yield (rent ÷ purchase price) ends up around just 1%, so unless you're investing for capital gains, there's no real appeal
    Flipping is a legitimate investment strategy on its own, but the gap from actual housing demand got way too extreme

    Background and Key Points

    Interest rates and building-material costs are the pieces of context missing from the thread, so let me make sure the closing commentary supplies them alongside the tax mechanics.

    The regulation MLIT is weighing targets short-term capital gains on condominiums — Japan already taxes real estate profits at a steep rate (roughly 39% combined national and local tax) if a property is held under five years, versus about 20% for long-term holds; the reported reform would tighten this further specifically for flips, not for landlords who hold and rent. This distinction matters because Japan’s postwar “land myth” (土地神話), the belief that land values only rise, drove the original bubble economy of the late 1980s, and heavily leveraged short-term resales are a visible echo of that pattern, especially in Tokyo and Osaka, where used 70㎡ condo prices now average roughly ¥120 million and ¥52.6 million.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t for-or-against the crackdown but whether it would lower prices at all. Several posters argued the reform only slows the pace of increases without reversing them, since construction material and labor costs are structurally elevated, not speculative — meaning new-build prices stay put while only resale/flip prices soften.

    What outside readers will likely misread is the “foreign buyers are driving this” narrative that surfaces reflexively in these threads. A poster directly cited MLIT’s own data showing foreign nationals account for only a few percent of real estate purchases nationally, undercutting the instinct to blame overseas capital for the affordability crisis. The thread also surfaced, almost as an aside, the more structural culprit: rental yields on central Tokyo condos run around just 1%, meaning the properties make little sense as income-generating rentals and only “work” financially as bets on resale appreciation — which is precisely the behavior the tax reform is trying to discourage.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[LOL] Japanese Government: ‘We’re Regulating Condo Flipping’ → Investors Losing Their Minds wwwwwwwwwwwww”.