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  • Matsuyama Chiharu Calls on Namie Amuro to Make a Comeback — 5ch: “I Want to See Her Sing Again”

    Matsuyama Chiharu reportedly used his radio show, aired on the 20th, to call out to Namie Amuro — who retired in September 2018 — saying he “absolutely believes so many fans want to see her sing again.” The call came on the very day Amuro turned 49. On the 5ch Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, while some straightforwardly hoped for her return, many argued that her own decision to retire — made because of her fading voice and age-related limits — should be respected. The thread also spun off into speculation about what she’s been up to in the eight years since retiring, and about her actual reasons for stepping away.

    Matsuyama Chiharu calls out to the “legendary diva,” eight years into retirement: “I absolutely believe so many fans want to see her sing again”

    Singer Matsuyama Chiharu (70) appeared live on the 20th on his own FM NACK5 show, “Matsuyama Chiharu ON THE RADIO” (Sundays, 9 PM).

    He called on Namie Amuro, the “legendary diva” who retired from entertainment in September 2018, to make a comeback.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:55
    Why did Amuro even retire?
    A hiatus would've been fine for now.
    Did she do something shady or what?
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:19
    Re: #6
    Age-wise, she'd probably hit the ceiling of what that image could sell.

    Honestly, good thing she got out right at the wire.

    This way, only the cute-and-cool image sticks around.

    Amuro-chan's charm really comes through best in her music videos.

    Live shows tend to expose the rough edges.
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:55
    Eight years since retiring and she's even harder to spot than Shimada Shinsuke (comedian who abruptly quit show business in 2011).
    No small appearances, no social media, nothing.
    9AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:56
    If she's just got the money from her farewell tour invested somewhere, she'd be pulling in hundreds of millions of yen without ever working again.
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:57
    Matsuyama Chiharu isn't actually as old as people assume, lol.
    He's basically the same generation as Koji Tamaki and ASKA.
    And yet he's got this senior-statesman vibe like he's a whole generation ahead of them.
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:01
    Re: #11
    He barely showed up on TV and stuck with folk music his whole career.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:57
    The only two people who've gone from dark to pale are Michael Jackson and Namie Amuro. (referring to her tanned '90s look versus her much fairer complexion later)
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:08
    Re: #12
    Sammy Sosa. (the MLB slugger whose skin notably lightened over the years, reportedly from bleaching cream)
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:57
    Wasn't it something like she didn't want to perform in front of fans anymore because of age-related decline?
    Dancing on top of singing would be brutal.
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:58
    This guy has zero sense of aesthetics, tact, or imagination.
    She decided she wasn't going to drag it out like some washed-up old-timer, and she followed through on that.
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    Watching the footage from her later live shows, her singing honestly didn't feel impressive at all anymore. She couldn't hit the high notes and was basically coasting through on a raspy voice.
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    She's not a singer-songwriter — her whole selling point was performance, not writing her own material — so a real comeback would be tough.
    People would just say she's lost her edge, and now that her kid's grown up, she's probably not hurting for money anyway.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:03
    30 years since SWEET 19 BLUES already, huh.
    That was the ending theme for the film "That's Cunning," where she shared the lead role with Yamaguchi.
    Also, the newly elected governor Koja is a junior alum from Amuro's old school, Ishimine Junior High.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:07
    Can people even suppress the need for attention?
    Nakai should've quietly had surgery and retired before he got sidelined.
    Matsu-chan should get his surgery done and finally quit too, but he just can't stay out of the spotlight.
    Even Shohei Ohtani should rest up, but he keeps wanting to play.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:09
    I'd be happy even with just a streaming-only comeback.
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:25
    Her voice clearly wasn't coming out right anymore.
    She'd changed up her vocal technique and was obviously forcing it.
    People don't retire for no reason.
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:27
    Re: #44
    Basically, neither Amuro-chan's singing nor her dancing was ever top-tier on their own —
    she said so herself.

    More than anything, it was the decline in her looks that was the real limit.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:32
    Re: #44
    – Drinking and smoking
    – Not doing vocal training
    – Illness

    Probably one of these, but who knows which.
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:30
    Didn't Namie Amuro retire because she felt her throat had hit its limit and keeping up her performances was getting too hard?

    I get where Matsuyama's coming from, but isn't asking her to come back basically as harsh as asking Tsunku (record producer who lost most of his singing voice to throat cancer surgery) to sing again?
    66AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:47
    Re: #48
    Back in the TRY ME and Aishite Masukatto days, her voice had such a rich, powerful, soaring quality.
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:33
    Dance numbers alone must be brutal on the breath control.

    Casually telling someone who hasn't sung professionally in years to just come back — Matsuyama, of all people, should know that without retraining even basic vocal cord technique, it's just not going to hold up.
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:37
    Re: #52
    Yeah, probably true.
    She might still hit the gym, but without actually performing live, I'd think the skills just fade.
    At this point she'd probably be out of breath after one song and one dance.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:46
    Re: #46
    No, come on — singing live while dancing like that is impressive.
    Compare that to today's standards, lol.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:49
    Re: #63
    Right, neither her dancing nor her singing was elite on its own, but Amuro-chan took pride in the fact that no one could touch her when it came to combining the two into one performance.

    That's a pretty clear-eyed piece of self-analysis.
    I think that's exactly why she retired.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:59
    At some point she started just mouthing the words instead of really singing.
    Energy-saving mode?
    The way she belted it out in the '90s was so much better.
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:05
    Re: #75
    Around the SWEET 19 BLUES era, when she went on maternity leave, her voice was already pretty hoarse and worn out.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Namie Amuro announced her retirement in 2017 and closed out her entertainment career with a final concert at the Tokyo Dome on September 16, 2018. Since then, she has kept no personal social media presence and made zero media appearances — an unusually complete, clean break for someone of her stature, which is exactly what brought the topic back up in this thread. Matsuyama Chiharu, who made the comeback appeal, is a 70-year-old singer born in 1955, a folk-music veteran and longtime radio host. His comment was made purely on-air, and there’s been no response from Amuro herself. In the thread, the simple wish to “see her again” ran up against the view that her decision to retire on her own terms — citing her declining abilities — deserves respect, with the latter view appearing to dominate. It’s also worth noting that Amuro has never officially stated her reasons for retiring; specifics like health issues or vocal decline remain speculation.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Entertainment] Matsuyama Chiharu calls on Namie Amuro, who just turned 49, to make a comeback: “I absolutely believe so many fans want to see her sing again”.”

  • Rising Ocean Temps Are Turning Pufferfish into Mystery Hybrids — And Nobody Knows Which Parts Are Safe to Eat

    An article reporting that rising sea temperatures are pushing multiple pufferfish species with different habitats into the same waters, driving increased hybridization (“jusshuka”), became a hot topic on 5ch’s Science News+ board. The concern: since pufferfish toxin can be found in the skin or flesh depending on the species, the rule-of-thumb knowledge built up over time for which parts to avoid may no longer hold true for hybridized individuals. Thread replies brought up the locally eaten “saba-fugu” puffer, pointed out that the toxin actually comes from the fish’s diet, and noted that countries outside Japan eat pufferfish too — reactions to just how dangerous this really is were mixed.

    Pufferfish — one of our country’s signature high-end delicacies. But now, the risk of dangerous “mystery pufferfish” emerging is on the rise.

    TSURINEWS Editorial Team, September 18, 2026

    Sakana Kenkyujo (Fish Research Institute) and others

    Source: tsurinews.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:07
    Come to think of it, where I'm from we eat a type called "saba-fugu" (mackerel puffer).
    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:12
    So it's back to the cycle of "learn by piling up the bodies" again, huh.
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 14:37
    Re: #3
    Reminds me of that old Urusei Yatsura episode about a village that's passed down mushroom taste-testing for generations to figure out which parts are safe to eat…
    4AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:25
    Same as mountain climbing — it's at your own risk.
    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:36
    Depending on the species, pufferfish toxin can be in the "skin" or even the "muscle (flesh)" too, so it's not just about avoiding the innards. Guess it's only going to get more complicated from here. And the sashimi looks so pretty and tastes so good…
    6AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:48
    If you think of it as just another survival strategy, it's almost endearing, isn't it.
    7AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:56
    Guess you just have to try it and see.

    That's basically how it worked back in the Edo period, right?
    8AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:59
    Apparently hybridization among wild mushrooms is on the rise too.
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:29
    Hamamatsu's tiger puffer is famous now, but it wasn't a thing back in the day.
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:56
    If you pickle it in rice bran long enough, could you even eat the ovaries?
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:02
    Parts, parts, parts… vic-tor-y~! (wordplay: 部位/"bui" sounds like the letter "V," and 魚籠取り/"bikutori" sounds like "victory")
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:06
    "Representative of our country" — like, who outside Japan even eats it?
    There's a pufferfish-prep video with over 1M views where the comments are flooded with people saying they feel bad for Mrs. Puff from SpongeBob.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:46
    Re: #13
    Plenty of countries eat it — South Korea, China, Singapore, Indonesia, Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand. It's apparently just that Japan and South Korea are the only ones who eat it raw as sashimi.
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:09
    Apparently aconite (wolfsbane) poison acts as a counter to pufferfish toxin. I forget which is which, but one raises your pulse and the other lowers it, so used correctly they can supposedly cancel each other out.
    24AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:24
    *licks it* This is poison! *keels over* (a classic meme format: lick something, declare it poison, then drop dead)
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:39
    With pufferfish, the heel's the dangerous part.
    27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:02
    Don't get cocky, mongrel!
    28AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:05
    Isn't pufferfish toxin something they just absorb and accumulate from their diet in the first place?
    Forget hybridization — if their food changes because of environmental shifts, wouldn't the toxicity itself change too?

    In fact, I'm pretty sure there's farmed pufferfish that's been made non-toxic by exploiting exactly that.
    29AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:01
    Re: #28
    Lol, confidently making a point that's subtly wrong.
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:09
    Just avoid the ovaries and liver, then.
    31AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:24
    Farmed pufferfish is the way to go.
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 00:14
    Re: #1
    Pufferfish chef licensing requirements vary by prefecture — I believe in Osaka you used to be able to get one just by taking a course.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:33
    Just eat the farmed ones, problem solved.
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:51
    "Casualties," huh…
    Guess if you eat pufferfish it bursts out of your stomach afterward, lol
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 15:42
    I wonder if sea bream (tai) and pufferfish could ever hybridize. Or maybe, if sea bream absorbed pufferfish genes and their cells gained resistance to the toxin, they'd start accumulating the toxin produced by plankton in their own bodies as a defense against being eaten — and end up becoming a highly toxic fish just like pufferfish. Building up a defensive poison in your body so you don't get eaten works against humans too, you know. And if the toxin turned out to be heat-resistant, you wouldn't even be able to can it.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:16
    Just don't eat it, then.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:24
    My tongue always tingles a little when I eat pufferfish — is that from the toxin?
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:26
    Well, pufferfish is tasty, sure, but "tasty enough to risk your life for"? That's debatable.

    Background and Key Points

    Pufferfish toxin (tetrodotoxin) isn’t produced by the fish itself — it’s understood to accumulate from external sources like the sea snails and bacteria it eats. This has been known for a while and is part of the basis for research into farming non-toxic pufferfish. The article behind this discussion warned that as rising sea temperatures push multiple pufferfish species, which normally live in different habitats, into overlapping waters, hybridization is increasing — and this could produce individuals for which the species-by-species rule of thumb about “which parts contain the toxin” no longer applies. In the thread, users pointed out that the toxin comes from the fish’s diet, brought up familiar, locally sold puffers like saba-fugu, and noted that countries besides Japan eat pufferfish too, with opinions split on how seriously to take the risk. Worth noting: the article doesn’t mention that pufferfish chef licensing exams and standards vary by prefecture, and that holding a license doesn’t guarantee safe handling of every pufferfish species.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Science News+) thread “More Pufferfish Where You Can’t Tell Which Parts Are Edible? The Scary Reality of ‘Hybridization’ Driven by Rising Sea Temperatures.”

  • Tsubaki Factory Throws First Pitch and Performs Post-Game Live Show at Fighters Broadcast on GAORA

    On September 20, GAORA SPORTS aired a live broadcast of the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters vs. Orix Buffaloes game (Escon Field) starting at 1:30 PM, featuring the Hello! Project idol group Tsubaki Factory, who threw out the ceremonial first pitch and performed a special live show after the game. Over on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a live-commentary thread went up before the broadcast even started, buzzing with fan-focused chatter — comparing GAORA and DAZN subscriptions and camera angles, reports of people scrambling to add the channel just in time, and members’ names being matched up with players’ jersey numbers — more than talk about the actual game itself.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:40
    (If the game goes into extra innings, the following programming will be pushed back)
    Color commentary: Makoto Kaneko / Play-by-play: Yuhei Doi / Visitor booth (secondary audio): T-Okada, Chiki Chiki Johnny Ishihara
    ▽ 9.20 Escon Field
    2AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:40
    GAORA Pro Baseball Broadcast (Fighters) | – CS Sports Channel
    https://www.gaora.co.jp/fighters/4280470
    Hokkaido Nippon-Ham vs. Orix (9.20 Escon Field)
    Sunday, September 20 1:30 PM – 6:30 PM
    Rerun
    Sunday, September 20 6:30 PM – 11:00 PM
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:54
    Escon Field's only getting cancelled if there's a full-on earthquake
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:54
    They did tease that a red panda would be joining the Fox Dance
    9AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:56
    That guy's trying to steal the spotlight again huh 💯
    Don't you lose, Doipu! (nickname for a member/mascot)
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:59
    Switched channels on SkyPerfecTV! and got GAORA added
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:01
    Going by the usual Morning Musume playbook, I'll just record the rerun
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:35
    I've got a DAZN subscription — is GAORA actually better?
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:37
    DAZN and GAORA use different camera angles, y'know
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:41
    Rakuten Mobile users get Pacific League games for free
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:52
    Does GAORA even have commercials?
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:05
    Rakuten TV doesn't start till 13:50 so that's a no from me
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:31
    Starting Lineup
    P Kohei Arihara
    1 (LF) Kengo Yoshida
    2 (SS) Tatsuki Mizuno
    3 (DH) Shishi Shibata
    4 (CF) Yuki Nomura
    5 (RF) Nakamasa Manami
    6 (1B) Kotaro Kiyomiya
    7 (3B) Ruia Otsuka
    8 (C) Yuya Shindo
    9 (2B) Taiki Narama
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:32
    Nothing but ads aimed at old folks
    25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:33
    Honestly thought the heavy rain might knock the broadcast out lol
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:33
    Decided to watch on DAZN instead. Stream doesn't start till 2 PM so I've got time to kill
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:33
    Shishi ("Lion") — named after the old Lions, back from their Nishitetsu days
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:33
    Escon's "Kunio-chan Channel" is live streaming right now! Tsubaki Factory / Hello! Project
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na7ZXDcOVZ0
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/na7ZXDcOVZ0/hq720.jpg
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:40
    Timetable
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSnFEegaIAEXlcA.jpg:orig#.jpg
    46AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:43
    Re: #35
    Wonder if anyone else is showing up too?

    13:45 – First pitch: Yasumi Tanimoto

    Bottom of the 3rd: Fox Dance

    30 min after the game ends: Special live show, Tsubaki Factory
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:42
    I'm usually team DAZN but I raced to sign up for GAORA and made it in time!
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:42
    Energy's probably lower than back when Makino did it lol
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:45
    Wonder if Maria Makino will get any camera time
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:47
    Are any of you guys actually there at Escon Field right now lol
    84AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:48
    Re: #78
    Tsubaki Factory's solo appearance in "AFTER GAME" 【Escon Field Hokkaido, September 20】
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789764435/
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:50
    Can someone list out all the jersey numbers? I know Runo's is 42
    121AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:51
    Re: #111
    Ono's is 324?
    Why though?
    129AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:52
    Re: #121
    Isn't it 325?
    130AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:52
    Re: #121
    3 = "mi"
    2 = "tsū"
    4 = "fō"
    probably (spelling something out with number readings)
    119AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:50
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSomHSFa8AAVyx6.jpg:orig#.jpg
    122AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:51
    Escon Field is the best stadium in Japan — you can enjoy it even if you don't know baseball
    131AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:52
    Re: #124
    "Mizu-fō" lol? What's wrong with 325?
    137AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:52
    Re: #131
    Guess they just didn't want to be stuck wearing "Saniko" lol (a pun spelled out from the digits 3-2-5)
    141AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:55
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSonMtEa8AAM5lh.jpg:orig#.jpg
    143AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:56
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSonBpeacAA4Frw.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSonCVubQAA1JBn.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSonC44a8AAYo_X.jpg:orig#.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSonDdmacAAMn0v.jpg:orig#.jpg
    144AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:57
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSom5cAaYAA-y7R.jpg:orig#.jpg

    Background and key points of this discussion

    GAORA SPORTS is a CS specialty channel that broadcasts all of the Nippon-Ham Fighters’ home games live year-round, and since its camera angles differ from DAZN’s, plenty of fans subscribe to both. The naming rights to Escon Field are held by the es-con group, so the claim made in the thread that “Chubu Electric Power is the operating entity” appears to be inaccurate. This isn’t the first time a Hello! Project idol group has appeared for a ceremonial first pitch or live show at the stadium, and the thread also saw some back-and-forth comparing this appearance to past ones. Exchanges decoding jersey numbers as wordplay were typical of this kind of live-commentary thread, where fans care less about the game’s outcome and more about “who’s going to show up on camera and how” — there was almost no discussion of the actual score or progress of the game.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “■ Tsubaki Factory ■ GAORA SPORTS “[Live] GAORA Pro Baseball Broadcast: Hokkaido Nippon-Ham vs. Orix (9.20)” ■ 13:30–18:30 ■.”

  • Gen Z: “No Need for Booze, Golf, or Cars” — 5ch Fires Back: “Golf Costs Money, Though”

    Nikkei Cross Trend’s report that Japan’s “oshikatsu” (fan-support spending) market has grown an estimated 32% over three years to reach ¥3.4 trillion sparked a thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board about Gen Z spending habits. While Gen Z is often said to skip traditional “adult hobbies” like golf, drinking, smoking, cars, gambling, and watches, some posters noted that young employees at their companies golf constantly, and that people in their 20s make up a notable share of pachinko and boat-racing participants — highlighting a gap between the generational narrative and the actual numbers.

    Japan’s Fan-Support Spending Market Grows 30% in Three Years to ¥3.4 Trillion — Data Reveals What’s Driving the Growth

    In fact, even excluding indirect spending such as travel and dining out, the fan-support spending market has reached an estimated ¥3.4 trillion, growing roughly 32% over the past three years.

    So what’s driving this growth?

    Source: xtrend.nikkei.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:29
    If the entertainment industry's booming, people must basically be well-off — so raising taxes shouldn't be a problem. We're talking about a nation dumb enough to donate hundreds of millions of yen to that 24-hour charity TV telethon.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:30
    Why did golf fall out of fashion? It's ridiculously fun. Plus if you're good at it, you're popular with women.
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:31
    Re: #8
    At my company the young guys golf like crazy too. They drink a ton as well.
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:32
    Re: #8
    Golf really is fun. I'm 28 and totally hooked on it right now.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:32
    Re: #8
    Golf costs money, though.
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:33
    Only a small niche of otaku are actually obsessed with singers and actors anyway.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:37
    Re: #26
    Among Gen Z, a YouTuber with maybe 500,000 subscribers probably has more name recognition than a B-list celebrity or an aging big-name star.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:39
    Re: #13
    I've gotta start golfing but I have no idea what to buy or where to begin… For now a senior coworker gave me a full set of clubs and a bag.
    40AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:40
    Re: #38
    If you got those, all that's left is to practice at the driving range.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:43
    Re: #38
    People always say to practice with a 7-iron first, but I think irons are hard, so I figure it's safer to just start with the driver.
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #38
    If you're heading to the driving range, you can at least work on your grip and stance at home beforehand — that's the most important part.
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:43
    My 50-year-old mom and 70-year-old grandma suddenly started watching anime and got totally obsessed with Chiikawa (a hit cute-character franchise) these past couple of years, and it's honestly getting on my nerves. They're constantly hitting up the Jump Shop and the Chiikawa Store to buy merch, they've seen the Chiikawa movie multiple times, and apparently they go to Kura Sushi (a sushi chain known for its Chiikawa tie-ins) over and over too. Aren't they embarrassed acting like this at their age?
    70AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:52
    Re: #51
    If it's women, I mean… whatever. It's basically a mascot character at this point, practically a national phenomenon.
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:45
    "Oshikatsu" (fan-support spending) basically just means women, right? Booze and cigarettes are gone, but that part stuck around.
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:46
    Re: #58
    Anime and plastic models aren't just a women's thing though.
    69AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:51
    What's actually fun about golf?
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:53
    Re: #69
    The girls' outfits are cute, the food tastes great out there, and it feels amazing when you hit a clean shot.
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:17
    Re: #69
    Honestly I think it's kind of a sport for otaku types. You know how they love stuff like "my original deck build!" or "my own custom shortcut technique!" — it's that same energy.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:53
    I think the pachinko/slot player population is somewhere around 7-8 million, and apparently 30% of them are in their 20s, so it doesn't seem like Gen Z has actually given up on gambling.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:00
    Re: #72
    Boat racing's seen a huge jump in young fans too.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:55
    Gen Z is going all-in on NISA (Japan's tax-free investment account) instead.
    90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:19
    Re: #75
    Nah, the reality is almost nobody's actually trading stocks.
    93AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:24
    Re: #75
    Dream goal: a comfortable, carefree life in a nursing home! Is that really living, though?
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:58
    Re: #77
    Everyone's hobbies look pointless from the outside. Even "oshikatsu" looks like nothing but throwing money away to me.
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:00
    Re: #79
    But this whole thread feels like it's ranking certain hobbies as higher or lower status than others.
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:21
    Re: #88
    Does anyone actually do it outside of work obligations?
    105AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:41
    Re: #91
    I do it all the time, for real.
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:35
    Women doing "oshikatsu" is one thing, but men doing it is genuinely concerning.
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:39
    Re: #102
    Otaku = oshikatsu. Same thing.
    110AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:43
    Not that long ago it would've been dumping cash into mobile games instead.
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:45
    Re: #110
    Mobile gaming kind of feels like its boom has passed, honestly.
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:45
    I went and bought a guitar.
    121AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:51
    Re: #113
    Apparently today's otaku ride motorcycles, go camping, fish, and play guitar, all at once.
    118AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:49
    Bowling died off even more quietly than golf did.
    123AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:57
    Re: #118
    Darts: "And what about me?"

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The original article calculated Japan’s fan-support spending market at an estimated ¥3.4 trillion, up 32% over three years. But what the thread actually debated was the underlying assumption behind that framing — that “Gen Z doesn’t buy alcohol, cigarettes, cars, gambling, or luxury watches.” On golf specifically, opinions split between “young employees at my workplace golf all the time” and “it gets avoided because it’s expensive,” suggesting the reality isn’t so clear-cut. Posters also pointed out that people in their 20s make up a notable share of pachinko and boat-racing participants, hinting that the idea of Gen Z “abandoning gambling” may also be an oversimplification. Even “oshikatsu” itself came up as covering far more than idols and anime — golf, camping, and playing instruments were all mentioned — underscoring just how hard it is to sum up a generation in one narrative.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Gen Z: “No need for women, golf, booze, cigarettes, cars, gambling, or watches” ← Turns out we found out what they ARE spending money on wwwwwwww“

  • Kojima Hideo: “The Reason I Teamed Up With Xbox Is the Same Vision as Nintendo’s” — 5ch: “What Even Is That Vision?”

    Game director Hideo Kojima, in an interview prompted by his own post on X, explained why he’s once again teamed up with Xbox. According to him, it’s not simply about getting funding for game development — Xbox is a partner that shares his “vision for the future,” one that includes expanding into new IP through film and anime as well as games. On 5ch, reactions ranged from blunt confusion (“I have no idea what Xbox’s vision even is”) to speculation that the deal came about because Kojima himself talked Xbox executives into it rather than the other way around, along with comparisons of how Nintendo, Sony, and Xbox each handle film and anime expansion.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:01
    You posted on X that you're teaming up with Xbox again as a partner who shares a "vision for the future" — what did that vision actually look like?
    The biggest thing is that they're not just thinking about funding games. They're thinking about movies and anime too. It's really more about IP — the idea of "let's build new IP." In other words, the scale of it is bigger. There aren't that many other publishers or developers out there with that kind of vision.
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:03
    What even is Xbox's "vision"?

    I genuinely don't get it
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:05
    Re: #5
    Microsoft's vision
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:04
    Movies, movies, and nothing but movies
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:33
    Honestly, I think Sony has the same vision
    they're just too weak to actually pull it off
    114AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:36
    Re: #7
    Ah, that's what he means
    Re: #47
    Sony's strong across movies, music, and anime content
    Their old style was using content to lure people into buying hardware,
    but the platform side isn't working out for them anymore
    For games it's the opposite — content is weak, but the platform alone is doing fine
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:06
    Yeah, no wonder nobody wants to make games for a platform with fans like this










    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:09
    Sorry, I don't want to be lumped in with creeps, but did MS actually do something wrong here?
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    Re: #14
    The Minecraft and Fallout movies both did well
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    Re: #14
    The Minecraft and Fallout movies both did well
    27AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:13
    I gave him a hard time for staying silent on X after going to see the Mario movie, figuring he thought it was boring — turns out he was just jealous. What a letdown.
    Not buying it even if it goes multiplatform
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:21
    Re: #27
    It's not coming to PS, so don't sweat it
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:21
    After reading the interview,
    it wasn't MS who came asking —
    Kojima talked Asha into letting him put it on Xbox himself

    Is there really anyone dumb enough to think this is coming to PS5?
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:23
    Re: #33
    Whether the game even comes out at all is shaky, isn't it?
    There's a real chance it gets cancelled
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:35
    No way Nintendo picks him up
    a money pit like that
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:38
    Re: #50
    Nintendo would hate a guy like Kojima more than anyone
    he thinks of himself as some kind of artist
    61AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:47
    Sony's supposedly the company best suited to media-mix expansion,
    but they're not doing the kind of media mix people actually want — just hoarding their content instead. Watching from the outside, it's such a waste
    103AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:25
    Re: #61
    Sony's internal divisions don't get along, so it's probably just not happening for them
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:47
    Nintendo wouldn't suddenly make a movie out of a brand-new IP
    They only make movies or theme parks as part of leveraging IP that's already popular

    Completely different from Kojima, who seems to think making a movie-like game makes it easier to turn into an actual movie
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:53
    Re: #62
    Kojima's approach is actually closer to Level-5's
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:54
    Because he insists "the IP is mine," the Death Stranding movie is being made by A24 with no Sony Pictures involvement
    His idea of an ideal deal is "just hand over the money and let me do whatever I want across other platforms and movies," so no sane company is going to agree to that
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:56
    Re: #72
    A24's Backrooms was directed by a 20-year-old and was a massive success
    Director Kojima's probably feeling the heat
    74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:54
    So there were no concrete talks with Nintendo at all…
    meaning it's all just Kojima's fantasy?
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:57
    Re: #74
    If he went to Nintendo, 90% of his cutscenes would get cut lol
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:58
    Kojima's just a terrible fit for Nintendo
    they don't pay much and they're strict about deadlines
    stingy Kyoto merchants through and through
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:02
    Re: #82
    They worked together back on Twin Snakes
    Just call up Ryuhei Kitamura again
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    This is basically him saying, without saying it, "Nintendo and MS are the kind of companies I like — unlike Sony" lol. Stop dragging Nintendo into this
    97AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:15
    Re: #83
    He's probably just eaten up with jealousy over Miyamoto — the Mario movie was a worldwide hit and expectations for the Zelda movie are sky-high too

    Well, if a game creator's going to be involved with a movie, that kind of hands-off distance is probably the way to go
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:05
    Palworld isn't even a Microsoft thing
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:10
    Re: #89
    Grandpa, did you forget the Minecraft movie was a smash hit last year?
    Why are you even bringing up Palworld lol
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:09
    Sony did that Concord short drama thing too, didn't they?! (referring to Concord, Sony's short-lived hero shooter)
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:12
    Re: #92
    Comparing it to the almighty Mario and Minecraft
    that's one seriously bold IP
    truly the future of PlayStation
    110AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:32
    If MS drops him too, about the only move left is falling back to mobile and getting Apple as a sponsor
    Nintendo definitely isn't picking him up
    118AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:40
    Re: #110
    Big-name auteur-type developers from third parties — companies probably learned their lesson with Kamiya
    a lot of them are strong-willed and don't play well with others
    well, Game Freak's kind of like that too, but they're a collective, so it's more just issuing revision notes on whatever gets submitted
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:34
    People used to tell him "lol just hurry up and make the movie already" —
    was his actual plan to just keep making games and wait for a movie offer to come knocking eventually?
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:36
    Re: #112
    He's actually turning down plenty of offers to direct movies as it is
    117AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:39
    Couldn't he have just had his Hollywood star buddies invest instead…?

    Background and key points of this topic

    Kojima Productions, led by Hideo Kojima, has so far developed the Death Stranding series for PlayStation, but in 2022 it also announced a new-title partnership with Xbox Game Studios, part of a broader recent shift toward a stance not tied to any single platform. His latest remarks frame Xbox not simply as a source of funding, but as a partner for IP expansion that extends into film and anime — a shared “vision for the future.” The thread split over what exactly this “vision” refers to, and over how to read reports that the deal came about through Kojima approaching Microsoft rather than the other way around. Since Sony has its own media-mix strategy, there’s no real evidence beyond Kojima’s own comments explaining why he singled out Nintendo and Xbox for comparison — much of the thread’s reaction amounted to speculation.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Hideo Kojima: “I teamed up with Xbox because we share the same vision as Nintendo”.”

  • 65+ Workers Earn ¥285,300 a Month on Average — Gap Between Industries Nears ¥200,000, 5ch Reacts: ‘That’s Just How It Is in the Countryside’

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “FY2025 Basic Survey on Wage Structure,” people aged 65 and older who are still working earn an average monthly income of ¥285,300. Broken down by industry, the gap between the highest-paying sector for ages 65-69 — education and learning support (¥420,900) — and the lowest-paying sectors is nearly ¥200,000. The original article also notes that high earners like university professors are pulling the average up. On 5ch, the discussion kicked off with someone lamenting “My monthly income is ¥170,000 — nowhere close,” then spread to cover the pay gap between rural and urban areas, take-home pay for assistant section chief-level employees, and minimum wage levels. Toward the end, some posters argued that reports should include the median alongside the average.

    (Omitted)

    Monthly income for ages 65-69 varies by nearly ¥200,000 depending on industry

    From here, we’ll use the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s FY2025 Basic Survey on Wage Structure to check how much people aged 65 and older are actually earning. This is the same 2025 survey data used for the employment figures.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    My annual income right now is ¥2 million. My monthly income is ¥170,000. Are you telling me it jumps to ¥280,000 once I hit 65?
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:33
    Re: #4
    That's just how it is in the countryside.
    119AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:12
    Re: #4
    That's really just down to your own effort… Anyway, change jobs.
    122AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:13
    Re: #4
    If you take a side job you'd easily hit that. Full-time plus 6 hours of side work gets you to about that amount.
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:26
    Working full-time at 65? That's hell.
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:00
    Re: #17
    Soon we'll all be working until 75.
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:04
    Re: #17
    By the time the Ice Age generation (those who entered the job market during Japan's 1990s-2000s hiring freeze) hits retirement age, you'll probably need to wait until 70 to get full pension benefits \(^o^)/
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:27
    Still working past 65? How little savings do you even have, lol. I don't want to end up like that.
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:34
    Re: #19
    If you cause a traffic accident and kill ("56" is slang using number readings to spell out 殺す, "kill," dodging word filters) the other person, you'll end up living like that overnight. Or if a fire you start burns down your house and the neighbors', you're instantly poor. Or if you get terminal cancer or severe diabetes, your life falls apart in a flash. There are plenty of other pitfalls too. A kid like you probably can't understand that though.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:49
    Re: #36
    That wouldn't happen. What do you think insurance is for?
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:31
    > Education/learning support: ¥420,900

    Apparently university professors are included in this, and they're the ones dragging the average up.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:35
    Re: #26
    That's right. A university professor is roughly equivalent in rank to a section-chief-level national civil servant. Retirement age is 65 at national/public universities, but some private universities keep people on until around 70.
    149AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:43
    Re: #26
    There's a long tradition of private universities hiring professors who've retired from national universities. You'd think it's just amakudari (the practice of retired officials landing cushy post-retirement jobs), but apparently in the sciences they bring job placements for students with them, so it's win-win.
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:40
    60 years old, full-time, take-home pay of ¥80,000.
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:46
    Re: #51
    That's outdated thinking aimed at the Ice Age generation. With the birthrate falling and labor shortages now, the plan should be to work until 75 to ease the burden on social security, so you don't have to worry about money right before you die. Just look at the population pyramid — there's no way the working generation can properly fund the Ice Age generation's pensions.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:51
    Re: #51
    Take-home pay of ¥80,000 for full-time work? Must be a 5-day weekend schedule \(^o^)/
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:43
    Almost 20 years at the company, senior assistant section chief, married, and take-home pay just under ¥220,000 — that's low by any measure, right?
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:49
    Re: #58
    Depends on the job.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:50
    Re: #58
    Nah, that's about normal for a small or mid-size company out in the countryside. Take-home of ¥220,000 probably means a gross of around ¥300,000. Add two bonuses of ¥500,000 each and you're at roughly ¥4.5 million a year — plenty solid for the countryside.
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:51
    Re: #72
    Seriously? No wonder the birthrate is falling.
    81AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:54
    Re: #76
    No, with that much you can buy a house and a car and support kids. Your wife might have to work too, though.
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:00
    Re: #76
    Don't be fooled — an annual income of ¥4.5 million with ¥220,000 monthly take-home is about what a rank-and-file employee with no title makes, even out in the countryside. A section chief normally pulls in around ¥4.8 million a year. Department manager class: ¥5.2 million. Division head: ¥6 million. Managing director: ¥7 million. Senior managing director: ¥7.8 million. President: ¥8 million. That's roughly the scale even in the countryside.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:54
    My dad, who does contract electrical work, brags that he makes ¥450,000 for 10 days of work a month. I think the fact that he's still working at 80 kind of undercuts the bragging rights.
    156AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:49
    Re: #80
    Apparently if you've got an electrician's license, even part-time work pays ¥20,000 for half a day and they still can't find enough people. I've heard inspection work, not just construction, is also short-staffed and rough.
    184AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:31
    Re: #80
    Even earning ¥450,000 at 80, he's probably not spending it — he's likely working so he can leave it to you. That's admirable. Meanwhile my own dad has about ¥2 million in stocks but apparently has no intention of gifting any of it to me while he's alive. He used to have around ¥7 million but sold it off to cover living expenses. He's been jobless for about 10 years but still gets ¥170,000 a month in pension.
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:03
    Re: #88
    Nah, that's way too little. Even in the countryside, that's short by a million yen.
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:05
    Re: #95
    If you check job listings at Hello Work (Japan's public employment agency) out in the countryside, ¥250,000 a month is totally normal.
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:08
    Re: #102
    You really need at least ¥200,000 take-home as a bare minimum. They should set a minimum for base pay too.
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:10
    Re: #108
    Even this is a big improvement, honestly. Back in the bad days, ¥180,000 or even ¥150,000 a month was the norm.
    115AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:10
    Re: #108
    Alright then, my minimum wage is ¥1 million.
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:11
    I wish there were a law requiring the media to publish the total sample size and the median whenever they report an average.
    170AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:17
    Re: #167
    Are you that bitter about being below average?
    171AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:18
    Re: #167
    The median is just a number counted up from the bottom — it's a figure made up of nothing but losers. What good would knowing that even do you?
    169AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:17
    I'm quitting my job at the end of September, becoming a zero-income household, and I'm done paying taxes.
    172AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:19
    Re: #169
    Even unemployed, you'll still owe resident tax next year. And more to the point — how are you planning to live with no job?
    187AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:33
    Re: #169
    Even as a tax-exempt household, they'll still take nursing care insurance premiums and National Health Insurance. And if you own your home, property tax too.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The figures behind this story come from the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Basic Survey on Wage Structure,” an official statistic published annually based on reports from employers. Averages are easily skewed by high earners, and as pointed out in the thread, high-paying occupations like university professors can pull up an entire industry’s average. Retirement age for faculty at national and public universities is around 65, while some private universities keep instructors on beyond that — one factor pushing up the monthly income figure for the “education and learning support” industry. Meanwhile, most posters in the thread reacted to the gap between the ¥280,000 average monthly income figure and their own take-home pay, with the disconnect from the lived experience of workers at rural and small-to-midsize companies driving much of the discussion. The calls for reporting the median alongside the average also have some merit as a point about statistical literacy — a reminder that averages alone can obscure the real picture.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Monthly Income for Working People Aged 65 and Older Is “¥285,300.” How Much Does It Vary by Industry? The Highest-Paying Sector Is “¥420,000”.”

  • “Manga That Lost Steam in the Second Half” — 5ch: “Chainsaw Man and Bleach Are the Worst Offenders”

    A thread that kicked off with the post “It was great at first, but it lost so much steam in the second half” blew up on 5ch’s general live-commentary board (通称なんJ, commonly known as “Nanj”). The titles that came up were mostly popular Jump and Young Jump series like Chainsaw Man, Bleach, Tokyo Ghoul, and Vinland Saga, and some replies even posted their own “tier lists” ranking the gap in quality between the first and second halves. On the other hand, some pointed to exceptions like Slam Dunk and Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai that “got better toward the end,” pushing back against the simple theory that manga always fade in the second half.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:21
    Oshi no Ko
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:28
    Tacopy is only 2 volumes, and the anime was like 4 episodes too
    It ended on a high note
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:32
    Toujima Tanzaburou wants to become Kamen Rider
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:33
    The one with a title kind of like 'The Bad Thing in My Heart' (probably a jab at the real title, The Dangers in My Heart)
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:37
    The Promised Neverland, right
    It's not even the usual case of Jump forcing a boxed-in, rushed decline on it either
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:40
    Manga that don't lose steam in the second half are probably the ones that end up remembered as classics
    Dragon Ball, Slam Dunk, Demon Slayer
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:42
    I don't know about Demon Slayer, but even for Dragon Ball and Slam Dunk, isn't the middle rated higher than the ending?
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:46
    Re: #32
    For Slam Dunk, isn't the Sannoh match the most highly rated part?
    42AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Re: #32
    You don't really hear many people say Slam Dunk's early part was the best
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:45
    Re: #27
    Not just this one, but when a mystery is what drives a story, it usually loses steam once the reveals start coming
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:48
    It was good right up through the Beast King Gnon battle
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:49
    Kaiju No. 8
    Seriously, it was all downhill right after the start
    67AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:09
    Re: #38
    Nice try, hater
    Guess it's because Relax messes with the main story that it's actually funny
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:50
    Daimon TAKE2
    It lost steam toward the end, but come on, the mercenary arc was really something…
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:51
    Mii-chan and Yamada-san
    It got way too awful after they got forcibly shipped back to Akita
    43AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Re: #40
    It's fine because it recovered during the pachinko arc
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Re: #36
    Really?
    I've often heard people say it dragged on too long, or that the Kainan match was actually the best part
    46AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:54
    Re: #44
    The Kainan match is popular too
    But I think the Sannoh match is generally rated the highest
    45AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:53
    For Slam Dunk, the Sannoh match is without a doubt the most popular part
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    On that note, it's amazing that Bleach is clearly losing steam, and yet that's somehow what makes it entertaining
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Terra Formars
    Tokyo Ghoul
    Kingdom

    Come on, Young Jump…
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Major gets boring right around the Major League arc — the one the title itself is named after
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai is amazing because it keeps getting better all the way to the end
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:02
    Re: #51
    Kamen Rider Drive was like that too
    Riku Sanjo is amazing
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:05
    Re: #51
    Put another way
    the early part drags
    Still, it's impressive that the whole series is under 30 volumes
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:03
    I actually like Tokyo Ghoul:re
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:05
    Re: #59
    I bet people who followed it week to week and people who binge-read it all at once come away with different impressions
    If you binge it, it reads decently well
    64AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:05
    Re: #59
    The art though……
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:24
    Chainsaw Man — a manga whose sales dropped off right on cue the moment the second half started

    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:24
    Gantz
    Terra Formars
    I Am a Hero
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:26
    Re: #76
    Forgot about those

    Tier list of manga with the worst first-half/second-half gap

    S: One Piece, Chainsaw Man
    A: Terra Formars, Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk, I Am a Hero
    B: Oshi no Ko, Jujutsu Kaisen, The Promised Neverland
    C: Bleach
    D: Death Note, Gantz
    E: Hunter x Hunter


    No objections, right?
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:26
    Tier list of manga with the worst first-half/second-half gap

    S: One Piece, Chainsaw Man
    A: Terra Formars, Tokyo Ghoul, Berserk
    B: Oshi no Ko, Jujutsu Kaisen, The Promised Neverland
    C: Bleach
    D: Death Note
    E: Hunter x Hunter


    No objections, right?
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:29
    Re: #78
    Bleach's ranked way too low, as always
    85AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:32
    Kuitama
    The author got completely eaten by the anime adaptation (fitting, since the title literally means "soul-eater")
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:41
    Re: #85
    Can't help it, it's one of the funniest "episode 0"-style anime out there
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:34
    I also couldn't quite get into Vinland Saga's later stretch
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:38
    Re: #87
    Yeah, the second half got preachy and dragged
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:46
    It's Chainsaw Man by a landslide
    Part 2 is disgustingly boring
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:47
    Re: #100
    Some of us — like me — actually like Part 2 more because it's so creepy
    106AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:53
    I haven't been reading current One Piece, but is it really that bad?
    It's always weirdly been a magnet for obsessive hate for some reason, so I don't know if I should take it seriously
    If it's genuinely worse than Bleach or Chainsaw Man, I'd expect way more backlash than this
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:54
    Re: #106
    Both the art and the story are trash no matter how generously you look at it

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    A manga’s “second-half slump” is sometimes discussed in terms of hard numbers like sales or volume counts, but no concrete primary data such as print runs was actually presented in this thread — most of it comes down to gut impressions. For long-running series, the excitement of following a story in real time can leave a very different impression than binge-reading it all at once after it’s finished, and one reply made exactly this point: “people who followed it week to week and people who binge-read it probably come away with different impressions.” Meanwhile, some works — like Slam Dunk’s Sannoh match — have a finale that’s widely agreed to be great, while others, like One Piece, split opinion sharply among readers, which makes it easy to overlook that everyone’s bar for what counts as a “slump” is different.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (general live-commentary board) thread “[Urgent Request] Name manga that were great at first but lost way too much steam in the second half.”

  • U-21 Japan Thrash Kyrgyzstan 7-0, Book Asian Games Quarterfinal Spot

    In the men’s soccer first-round group stage at the Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games, the Japan U-21 national team, led by manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa, routed Kyrgyzstan 7-0, clinching a quarterfinal berth with one match still to play. FW Yumeki Yokoyama opened the scoring in the 28th minute with a gorgeous lob shot, and Japan piled on six more goals from there for a lopsided win. The move to swap out seven starters — a response to the lack of finishing flagged after the opening match against Hong Kong (result not specified in the article) — paid off. Reactions on the forum were split between those who discounted the gap by noting Kyrgyzstan played a looser back four than Hong Kong, and those praising manager Oiwa’s knack for getting results.

    ◆Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games ▽Men’s Soccer First Round, Matchday 2 Japan 7-0 Kyrgyzstan (Sept. 20, Toyota Stadium)

    Japan’s U-21 (under-21) national team in Group A crushed Kyrgyzstan 7-0 to secure a quarterfinal spot. With a 6-point gap now over third place in the group, Japan advanced from the group stage with one match still remaining.

    Manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa changed seven starters from the opening match against Hong Kong on the 16th, bringing in FW Yumeki Yokoyama among others. In the 28th minute, Yokoyama delivered a brilliant opener: latching onto a long ball from MF Yotaro Nakajima, he lobbed a one-touch shot that sailed over the keeper’s head and dropped straight into the net.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Looks like Shimamoto, a natural defensive midfielder, will end up playing as the lone striker.
    Well, until they hit a match they might actually lose, they'll probably just keep going with Michiwaki and Nwadike up top.
    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Saying they 'fixed their lack of finishing' against Kyrgyzstan of all teams doesn't mean much though.
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:54
    Re: #4
    Hong Kong played a back five, but Kyrgyzstan had a back four.
    Though Kyrgyzstan's defenders were overage (OA) players.
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:02
    Re: #4
    This is a lack of finishing too.

    [Asian Games] Men's basketball: South Korea wins first gold in three Games, comes from behind to beat Japan — Lee Hyun-jung and other NBA hopefuls exempted from military service [Amidagamine★]
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1789910570/
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:53
    Stopped watching after the first goal — so they scored six more after that?
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:54
    Re: #1

    ⚽ Japan National Team Schedule

    Aichi Asian Games, Men's Soccer
    9/23 (Wed) 19:30~
    Japan vs Thailand 🇹🇭
    📺 TBS

    Kirin Cup
    9/24 (Thu) 19:05~
    Japan vs Uruguay 🇺🇾
    Q&A Stadium Miyagi
    📺 Fuji TV

    Kirin Cup
    9/28 (Mon) 19:25~
    Japan vs Venezuela 🇻🇪
    Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima
    📺 NTV

    Kirin Cup
    10/1 (Thu) 19:10~
    Japan vs Ecuador 🇪🇨
    Yokohama International Stadium
    📺 TBS network

    Kirin Cup
    10/5 (Mon) 19:30~
    Japan vs Panama 🇵🇦 or New Zealand 🇳🇿
    National Stadium
    📺 TV Asahi
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Re: #7
    Such a shame — it's a full three-week international match window, but Europe's tied up with their own Nations League so no games there, and Asia's flooded with requests so they get turned down too. No wonder the schedule ends up mostly South American opponents.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:55
    They should've broadcast soccer or volleyball instead of that basketball loss.
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:10
    Re: #8
    Can't be helped.
    Nobody thought they'd lose.
    Japan's the one at fault for losing to a South Korea that's buffed by something as big as military-service exemption.
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Isn't Yokoyama the guy who plays for Genk?
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #10
    That's the older brother.
    This one's the younger brother, who plays for Cerezo.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:01
    Re: #10
    That one's the older brother.
    This one's Cerezo.
    No telling how long he'll stay in the J.League, so they need to find at least one usable left winger before the U-23 Asian Cup (LA Olympics qualifier) in January or April 2028.
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Ichihara really is a cut above, huh.
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:01
    Re: #11
    The guy who's not getting playing time at AZ?
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:00
    Re: #1
    ■Players unavailable for the 2026 Asian Games U-21 Japan squad

    Ryunosuke Sato (Spain, 1st division)
    Keisuke Goto (Germany, 1st division)
    Koki Ando (Belgium, 1st division)
    Shion Shinkawa (Belgium, 1st division)
    Gaku Nawata (Belgium, 1st division)
    Shunsuke Saito (Belgium, 1st division)
    Ryoga Kida (Argentina, 1st division)
    Kazuya Kita (Spain, 2nd division)
    Asuma Ikari (Germany, 2nd division)
    Kento Shiogai (Germany, 2nd division)
    Reo Takaoka (Belgium, 2nd division)
    Muki Yoshinaga (Belgium, 2nd division)
    Keito Kojiro (Eintracht Frankfurt second team)
    Sora Yamamoto (Borussia Dortmund second team)
    Ryota Onoda (Augsburg second team)
    Taiyu Yamazaki (Mainz second team)
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:03
    Re: #18
    Wasn't Shiogai called up to the full national team?
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:07
    Re: #18
    Sato, Shiogai, Saito, and Goto are with the A (senior) national team.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:08
    Re: #18
    If it's Sint-Truiden or a second team, there's a chance the clubs let them go.
    For the Paris Olympics too, Sint-Truiden released Kokubo, Chima, and Yamamoto, and the second team released Kein Sato.
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:00
    Guess I'll go watch the Sint-Truiden and LA-generation Saito's match now.
    Taniguchi's in it (using おる, Kansai dialect for 'is/exists').
    Wait, wasn't he dropped from the squad due to injury?
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:04
    Re: #19
    Oh, you can watch it on BS10.
    First time I've ever tuned that channel in.
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:55
    Re: #19
    That's because the manager himself is the type who gets dropped.
    I think the guys called up right now are more of a 'Moriyasu send-off Japan' — centered on Moriyasu's favorites (lit. 'mistresses,' i.e. pet players), not necessarily the best available.
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:07
    Looks like they reflected on that timid, sorry excuse for a match in game one — this time they were aggressive, holding the ball centrally and driving forward.
    Baseball's a lost cause now though.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:11
    The Asian Games really don't mean anything.
    The level's too low — winning this doesn't amount to much.
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:14
    Re: #37
    It's such a low-stakes tournament that everyone except South Korea — who have military-service exemption on the line — shows up with a slapped-together squad.
    It's such a throwaway tournament that Japan and Uzbekistan, who'd normally be favorites, field U-21 sides with no overage (OA) players at all.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:23
    For a tournament at this level, Japan could get by even with its U-21 side missing its 'rook and bishop' (shogi term for being without your two best pieces/players).
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:35
    Re: #52
    It's less about the tournament level and more that they landed in a really easy group.
    Wish the senior team got this kind of luck in the World Cup draw.
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:24
    Last Asian Games they couldn't even get enough players together — it was a brutal lineup of a university select team plus a handful of J.League bench players. Compared to that, this time they managed to call up guys with actual potential.
    Pretty sure none of the players from last time's squad are on the current national team, right?
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:32
    Re: #55
    This time it's hosted in Japan, so the J.League clubs are cooperating a lot more.
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:42
    Re: #55
    Of the players from the last Asian Games squad, only two — Kein Sato and Sekine — made the Paris Olympics squad.
    And of course, not a single one of them has made the senior national team yet.
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:42
    Oiwa's just too good a manager.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:44
    Re: #65
    He's got this mysterious knack for winning the big ones.
    Very Kashima Antlers of him.
    74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:52
    Re: #65
    He gets trashed by the Kashima crowd, but honestly managing the Paris-generation squad wasn't that stressful to watch.
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:59
    Re: #65
    Not widely known, but he's the only manager to have won the AFC Manager of the Year award twice.
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:46
    Re: #67
    Are other countries really slacking though?
    The peninsula (South Korea) is clearly going all-out.
    Wasn't it Uzbekistan — or some country — that copied Japan and switched to a U-21 squad too? Vietnam did that as well, didn't they?
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:53
    Re: #71
    Re: #71
    Of course South Korea goes all-out every time — they've got military exemption on the line.
    Uzbekistan's the same as Japan: U-21 only, no overage players.
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    The tempo's pretty one-dimensional, so they'll probably struggle to break down anyone ranked higher.
    88AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:10
    Re: #83
    I mean, the opponent parked the bus way too much.
    Don't go getting scared of 21-year-olds, lol.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Men’s soccer at the Asian Games is an age-restricted, U-21-driven competition, and unlike the Olympics, most countries don’t use overage (OA) slots. The exception is South Korea, which — driven by the powerful incentive of military-service exemption for winning gold — fields what amounts to its best possible squad, creating a notable gap in how seriously each country treats selection. The thread repeatedly circled back to this structural question of ‘why is South Korea the only one going all-in?’ Another point of debate was whether swapping seven starters, a response to the lack of finishing criticized after the opening match against Hong Kong, actually paid off — though some discounted the result by noting Kyrgyzstan’s defense was looser than Hong Kong’s. One detail readers might easily miss: many of the top under-21 players at major European clubs, such as Ryunosuke Sato and Keisuke Goto, were effectively impossible to call up, since this tournament isn’t an official FIFA international match window, meaning their clubs are under no obligation to release them. The article also noted that manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa, who also led the Paris Olympics generation, has won the AFC Manager of the Year award multiple times.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisou Sokuhou+) thread ‘[Soccer U-21] Oiwa’s Japan Thrash Kyrgyzstan 7-0 to Reach the Quarterfinals, Hugely Improving on Their Opening-Match Lack of Finishing — Asian Games.’

  • Men’s Basketball: South Korea Wins Gold for First Time in 3 Asian Games, Japan Falls to Silver — 5ch: “They’re Serious Because Military Exemption Is on the Line”

    On September 20, in the Asian Games men’s basketball final at Aichi International Arena, world No. 57 South Korea defeated world No. 22 Japan 67-57 to claim its fifth gold medal and first in 12 years. Japan had reached the final for the first time in 64 years but couldn’t hold its lead and suffered a come-from-ahead loss. South Korea’s ace, Lee Hyun-jung, has signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers for next season, and this gold medal makes him eligible for exemption from South Korea’s mandatory military service. On 5ch, the main point of debate was a “difference in seriousness”: South Korea, with exemptions on the line, fielded a near-full-strength roster using its overage player slots, while Japan — in a sport where it has other major tournaments like the Asian Cup — prioritized developing younger players and didn’t field its best lineup.

    “Asian Games Men’s Basketball Final: Japan National Team 57–67 South Korea National Team” (September 20, Aichi International Arena)

    World No. 57 South Korea, fielding a youth-driven squad, defeated world No. 22 Japan — which had reached the final for the first time in 64 years — to win its fifth gold medal and first in 12 years. Ace Lee Hyun-jung and others, who signed an “Exhibit 10” contract with the NBA’s Trail Blazers for next season, secured a military service exemption with this gold.

    In the 1st quarter, South Korea took the lead behind three-pointers from Lee Hyun-jung and others. Japan fought back with three-pointers from Kanechika and others, forcing turnovers with tenacious defense to catch up and take the lead. The quarter ended 12–16 in South Korea’s favor. The 2nd quarter stayed tight throughout, with neither team giving ground, ending the first half tied 28–28.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:27
    Japan wasn't fielding its best lineup, but what about Korea?
    They had a guy with an NBA Exhibit 10 deal, so were they going full-strength?
    143AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:51
    Re: #20
    Pretty much their full best lineup.
    They even had Seattle's prized gem on the roster.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:31
    Re: #1
    Meanwhile football won 7-0… should've just watched that instead.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:34
    Re: #38
    Japan did put together a somewhat more serious squad than usual for basketball, but it's still U-21 with no overage players, same as ever. Facing a Korea packed with U-23 overseas pros plus overage players going all out, Japan's win rate is probably 30% at best.
    Scoring 7 against Kyrgyzstan doesn't mean anything.
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:34
    Japan was the only team just gambling on three-pointers (運ゲー, lit. "luck game" — 5ch slang for relying on chance instead of skill).
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #50
    Japan's offense just never clicked.
    Still, good to see a proper nail-biter (セメントマッチ, 5ch slang for a tight, grinding low-scoring game) for once.
    The World Cup qualifier with Hachimura was way too one-sided to be interesting.
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:35
    Did Lee Hyun-jung play in the B.League just to win this game?

    Well, military exemption is a huge deal, so…
    112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:46
    Re: #58
    He's not even NBA-level to begin with.
    He was a bench player even in the Australian league.
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:36
    Japanese basketball is going to end up being all mixed-heritage players eventually anyway, so who cares.
    93AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:42
    Re: #60
    I thought the same thing 10 years ago.
    But the reality is mixed-heritage players (ハーフ, "haafu") only dominate through their teens — once they hit their twenties, even "pure" Japanese players start overtaking them.

    Pick a best-five lineup and Hachimura is the only mixed-heritage player who makes it. That's been the story for the last 10 years.
    The rest is one naturalized foreign-born center and three "pure" Japanese players.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:40
    Since a win means military exemption for Korea, there are a lot of events where Korea is the only side actually going all-out.
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:43
    Korea's fielding a full-strength squad for football too, going all in to win.
    For other countries this is supposed to be a place for developing young players and gaining experience.
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:44
    Re: #95
    Meanwhile Japan is apparently going all-out to sabotage them off the court to win lol
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:45
    Re: #95
    Winning gold at the Asian Games gets you a military exemption no matter the sport.
    They're more desperate for the exemption than for the gold itself.
    132AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:49
    Re: #95
    Same as the Olympics — there's a military exemption on the line.
    For Koreans, an Asian Games gold carries the same value as an Olympic gold.
    97AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:43
    Oh, there's a military exemption riding on it. No wonder they're serious. Could be fun if there's ever a Japan-Korea football match.
    127AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:48
    Re: #97
    They're in full serious mode, even using their overage slots.
    165AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #97
    Korea's been on a winning streak in football too lately.
    They call up even their Europe-based players and come in hard for the military exemption.
    Winning Asian Games gold is far easier than finishing top-3 at the Olympics.
    106AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:44
    Most popular sports in Asia

    1. Football
    2. Badminton
    3. Swimming
    4. Basketball
    5. Cycling
    6. Volleyball
    7. Cricket
    8. Table tennis
    9. Tennis
    10. Boxing
    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/samuraigoal/imgs/a/c/ac7ab344.png
    117AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:46
    Getting a military exemption from something as "minor" as the Asian Games is a sweet deal.
    144AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:51
    Re: #117
    That's exactly why even within Korea, a 2023 survey found as many as 44.5% saying it's inappropriate to grant military exemptions to elite athletes.
    It's still fresh in memory how a Korean reporter mocked Son Heung-min's exemption before the World Cup — quite a few Koreans actually dislike the Asian Games exemption system.
    148AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Why wasn't Japan fielding its best lineup?
    158AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:55
    Re: #148
    For ball sports where Japan also has the Asian Cup, the Asian Games get used to develop backup players instead.
    170AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #148
    Depending on the sport, the Asian Games carry almost no prestige or value at all.
    149AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    There was zero tension in that game… and it was the final?
    175AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:58
    Re: #149
    Saw this floating around yesterday — it was laid-back enough that a Japanese fan actually posted hoping Korea would win because this player's military service was riding on it.
    He's trying for the NBA this season, but up through last season he was playing in Japan.
    163AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #158
    For women's volleyball it's pretty much the best lineup except for Ishikawa.
    And yet they struggled against Indonesia, which had the fans panicking.
    180AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Re: #163
    No idea why they put Wada and Sato in that lineup.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Under South Korea’s military service law, athletes who win an Olympic medal or an Asian Games gold medal can qualify for exemption from mandatory military service as “culture and sports personnel.” Lee Hyun-jung, who won gold this time, has signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers for next season, so the exemption is a big deal — it lets him keep pursuing the NBA without worrying about his age. Where opinions split on the thread was over the difference in how seriously each country treated the Asian Games. South Korea fielded what was effectively its best lineup, even using overage player slots, while Japan treats the Asian Games as a development ground for younger players in sports where it has higher-status tournaments like the Asian Cup — and again didn’t field its best team this time. This “asymmetry in seriousness” got talked about even more than the final score. One easily misunderstood point: even within South Korea, skepticism toward athletic military exemptions runs deep — a 2023 survey found 44.5% called them “inappropriate.” There was also the incident where a Korean reporter’s comments mocking Son Heung-min’s exemption sparked backlash, showing the exemption system doesn’t have unanimous support even within Korean society.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Asian Games] Men’s Basketball: South Korea Wins Gold for First Time in 3 Asian Games, Comes From Behind to Beat Japan — NBA Hopeful Lee Hyun-jung and Others Get Military Exemption.”

  • “Detective Precure” Anti-Thread: Fans Fume Over Ruruka Favoritism and Crossover Overload

    An anti-fan thread for “Detective Precure!” on 5ch’s anime board saw a wave of complaints about the movie’s plot. Many were upset that the story pins all the blame on Gouemon just to shield heroine Ruruka, asking “how much longer are they going to coddle Ruruka?” Others piled on about the multiple crossovers with Street Fighter 6 and Detective Conan, calling it “too many crossovers” and saying the show has “dropped all pretense and is just doing whatever it wants.” Posters were also split on whether to start the thread early as a defense against trolls.

    Ru

    ↑ Stack this line twice at the top when starting the thread.

    This is the 【anti-fan thread】 for the latest entry in the Precure series, “Detective Precure!”

    Source: toei-anim.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:18
    Let's use this thread while we finish filling up #28.
    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:38
    Trolls are so annoying.
    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:42
    Maybe hold off on new threads until the trolls calm down?
    That's basically no different from spamming duplicate threads.
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:54
    Re: #4
    If anything, starting it quickly keeps the newest thread from getting trashed by trolls.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:42
    Re: #4
    That's exactly the logic trolls use — they don't care how, as long as shutting down the anti-thread kills the conversation.
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:56
    Apologizing should've been the first thing they did on their own, but now that they finally did, the defenders are all "good job, well done!" like it's some huge achievement.
    What a sight.
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:17
    I wonder if it's the diehard fans trolling the anti-thread.
    9AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:43
    Re: #5
    You're a troll too, you know.
    Though you probably don't realize it.
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:47
    Yeah, poor Shiruku — she only got dragged in to defend Ruru-trash (a mocking nickname for Ruruka) no matter what.
    And honestly, the reasoning behind defending her is such a stretch too.
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:55
    I was floored that the story actually went and pinned all the blame on Gouemon.
    How much more do they need to coddle Ruru-trash?
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:58
    Damn it, I hate this show so much and yet I watched it again this week! So frustrating!
    I hate myself for it.
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:04
    Instead of having Shiruku say something like "I didn't think Ruruka would actually steal it," they should've had her say she sensed something was off — that Ruruka didn't seem to be acting of her own will, like there was some circumstance behind it.
    Because plot-wise, Ruruka's side did intend to steal it, since they needed another jewel to replace Eclair's Makoto Jewel (and even more so if Ruruka's stated motive — doing it for the world and for Curea — is meant to be genuine).
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:08
    Unbelievable.

    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:20
    Trolls… all they do is pointlessly inflate the thread count…
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:24
    Some things that bugged me about the movie spoilers — I put the finer details in the refuge thread.
    Maybe because it's a story about coaxing a shut-in kid outside, the whole thing felt dark in tone, and the ending theme was too gloomy to match. It's supposed to be a Tan Precure-centered movie, but Kimi Precure and Wan Precure (other character team groupings) had way stronger team chemistry despite getting less screen time. Even the all-together finishing pose felt cluttered and unfocused for the Tan Precure squad. The Future Form's purification attack is basically just "Detective" again, and it's suspicious the Garlic Rod is still in play. Disappointed the Answer Hanamaru Sword got left out — guess it's just not popular.
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:26
    https://x.com/yoshiyama_yuu/status/2101613886386663781
    Even Yoshiyama is speaking out now.
    193AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:24
    Re: #17
    Who's even the target audience for a fighting-game crossover?
    Guess it's a "spray and pray, something's bound to land" kind of strategy.
    164AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:15
    Street Fighter 6? Come on, that's really pushing it.
    206AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:28
    The show-within-a-show that uses Street Fighter 6 — the one with actual matches — handles the yuri way better than this. There's just no demand for it…
    224AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:34
    Now even the weapon supply from Arcana is gone — what does the future hold for Ankoba?
    245AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:40
    Next week's another Ruruka episode.
    This show is done for.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    “Detective Precure!” is the latest entry in the Precure franchise, and its movie features an even heavier-than-usual lineup of crossovers, including Street Fighter 6 and Detective Conan. Two complaints stood out in this thread: frustration with a script that concentrates all the blame on Gouemon to absolve heroine Ruruka, and fatigue over multiple crossovers running at once. Though separate issues, both feed into a shared complaint that “the production’s own convenience is being prioritized” over the story. Anti-fan threads are a long-standing 5ch custom, serving as a space to follow a series while trading critical opinions, and posters in this thread were themselves split over whether to start threads early. Note that posts based on unconfirmed rumors about individual voice actors or the director have been excluded from this article, since they could not be verified.

    *This article is a condensed, summarized excerpt from the 5ch (anime) thread “Detective Precure! Anti-Thread 29.”