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  • Palantir CEO Secretly Bought 150km² of Swedish Forest — Local Hunters Found Out When Their Leases Got Cancelled

    It has emerged that Palantir CEO Alex Karp secretly purchased roughly 37,000 acres (about 150 square kilometers, or 15,000 hectares) of forest in northern Sweden. Local residents reportedly only found out about the purchase when hunters lost the long-standing hunting lease they’d used on the land for years. On Lemmy’s Europe community, discussion exploded over the purchase price and what the land might be used for, with speculation ranging from rising Nordic land values due to climate change to the construction of a data center. Meanwhile, plenty of voices criticized large-scale foreign land ownership and the sheer scale of billionaire wealth itself.

    Palantir CEO Alex Karp secretly purchased 37,000 acres of forest in Sweden. Local residents found out when hunters lost their land-use agreement (a hunting lease).

    Source: fortune.com / Read the original article here

    2Anonymous2026-10-01 07:46
    lokalhorst: 37,000 acres is 149.73 km², or 14,973.37 hectares
    7Anonymous2026-10-01 08:18
    snoons: Re: #2 Here's an example of how big 90km² is ([image])
    https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/56ad4c8d-4b8e-4b0f-a728-aec04c77cbc8.png
    16Anonymous2026-10-01 12:11
    noob: Re: #7 Where's the banana (the classic unit for scale comparisons)?
    4Anonymous2026-10-01 08:02
    susieq0044: Honestly, smart investment. As climate collapse worsens (which his own company is partly responsible for), land in the north is only going to get more valuable. Plenty of Europeans are already swapping southern France for Scandinavia as a vacation spot
    24Anonymous2026-10-01 21:09
    Loui: Re: #4 Assuming the AMOC (Atlantic meridional overturning circulation) doesn't collapse first
    5Anonymous2026-10-01 11:09
    WhatAmLemmy: Treat him as a hostile foreign actor, nationalize the land, and throw him in prison
    6Anonymous2026-10-01 09:07
    dracc: Re: #2 According to Swedish media it's actually 150km². He (or rather his company) paid 240 million Swedish kronor (about $20 million) for it, but thanks to the elevation there's barely any real forest on it. Buying it under the guise of 'forestry use' is a pretty transparent cover story
    8Anonymous2026-10-01 08:47
    devfuuu: Re: #3 Probably for their favorite sport — inviting rich people out to the vast forest to hunt humans
    9Anonymous2026-10-01 12:25
    melsaskca: Gotta love foreign capital. Who needs to become a citizen when you can just buy the government instead. And apparently you actually can /s
    10Anonymous2026-10-01 12:49
    MolochHorridus: Probably a post-apocalypse bunker, and until then it'll double as a hunting lodge for hunting poor people
    22Anonymous2026-10-01 15:38
    manxu: Re: #10 Wait, let me get this straight — is it 'a hunting lodge where poor people stay' or 'a lodge for hunting poor people'? /s
    11Anonymous2026-10-01 10:29
    DdCno1: And everyone who wants him to make a comeback too (same treatment)
    12Anonymous2026-10-01 17:22
    Mad_Punda: Re: #20 It'd be more energy-efficient to just launch him out of the solar system
    27Anonymous2026-10-01 18:28
    chahn.chris: Re: #12 I like it, let's go with that plan!
    34Anonymous2026-10-01 19:33
    JillyB: Re: #12 Played Outer Wilds and learned that flying into the sun is actually surprisingly easy
    13Anonymous2026-10-01 16:30
    CalemitousVariantK: Behold the face of the man who hunts humans on that land. He probably skipped a more discreet, remote island because he wanted lower latency for commanding drones in Ukraine
    14Anonymous2026-10-01 09:10
    dracc: Re: #3 Calling it a 'forest' is a stretch — that land sits right at or above the treeline. Apparently Karp is a skiing enthusiast and already owns multiple properties at Norwegian ski resorts. Still, 240 million kronor doesn't seem like an amount you could realistically recoup from that. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a data center on that land within 5 years
    19Anonymous2026-10-01 09:45
    killingspark: Re: #14 240 million kronor is roughly $24 million. According to Wikipedia, Alex Karp's net worth was over $18 billion as of 2025. So this is only about 1/800th of his net worth, 0.125%. As long as the rest of his assets keep earning, there's no need for this land to turn a profit anytime soon (correction: I had the exchange rate wrong — 1 krona is about $0.1, not $10)
    15Anonymous2026-10-01 21:54
    minorkeys: He's probably moving his assets into land before the AI bubble pops
    17Anonymous2026-10-01 15:06
    CovertOperative: Re: #16 It's right in the center, someone's holding it up in the town square
    18Anonymous2026-10-01 17:02
    pmk: Does he even know about 'Allemansrätten' (Sweden's 'everyman's right' to roam)?
    28Anonymous2026-10-01 19:38
    lambipapp: Re: #18 I bet he's going to clear-cut all of Härjedalen for a data center. Or maybe he's found his spot for a post-apocalypse shelter
    23Anonymous2026-10-01 16:14
    MolochHorridus: Re: #22 It's for hunting poor people
    25Anonymous2026-10-01 17:24
    Malica: I read somewhere that he paid under $600 per acre
    26Anonymous2026-10-01 09:30
    roserose56: Re: #39 Do you really think building more data centers is the solution?
    33Anonymous2026-10-01 09:51
    jdr: Re: #26 Nope, I don't
    37Anonymous2026-10-01 11:11
    LovelyMover: Apparently Singapore built one using human brain cells. It only uses as much power as an LED bulb, barely takes up any space, and you just need to feed the cells nutrients now and then to keep them alive. The brain cells handle all the processing themselves — it's genuinely tiny
    39Anonymous2026-10-01 08:24
    jdr: What's so interesting about that?
    29Anonymous2026-10-01 17:27
    vane: Re: #2 Small country, huh
    32Anonymous2026-10-01 10:04
    birdwing: Re: #3 Probably a data center, I'd guess
    35Anonymous2026-10-01 21:12
    Little1Lost: Re: #34 Finally, the bookmark feature works 😀 This person explains why it's not actually that simple: [link]
    38Anonymous2026-10-02 00:40
    stoly: Re: #20 There it is again, that argument: 'Leaving nature alone is bad for nature. Only humans can help it, and only by killing animals'

    Background and key points of this discussion

    This purchase isn’t unrelated to the nature of Palantir as a company. Known for AI-powered defense and intelligence work, Palantir is reportedly involved in military support for Ukraine, and some in the thread speculated about a connection to drone operations. Sweden has a traditional right called “Allemansrätten” (the ‘everyman’s right’), which lets anyone access and forage on private land, so large-scale private land ownership tends to create friction with this custom. Commenters also pointed out that Karp’s net worth reportedly exceeds $18 billion, making this purchase (roughly $24 million) only a small fraction of it. That said, it’s worth noting that the land’s specific intended use (a data center, a vacation home, or something else) remained pure speculation within the thread and is not a confirmed fact.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Lemmy c/europe) thread “Palantir CEO Alex Karp quietly purchased 37,000 acres of forests in Sweden—and locals found out when hunters lost leases to use the property“.

  • In Belgium It’s ¥3,600 — In Japan Just ¥900: Belgian Left Speechless by What’s ‘Cheap AND Delicious’

    A Belgian woman’s account of her stay in Japan was picked up by 5ch’s News Flash+ board. The trigger was her story that a meal costing 3,600 yen back home cost just 900 yen in Japan — and was delicious. The thread wasn’t all pride, though; plenty of sober comments like “That’s just people getting giddy over a weak yen” and “Belgium’s GDP per capita is 1.7 times Japan’s” came up too, splitting reactions between boasting about the cheap prices and worrying about what they actually mean.

    (Omitted)

    “Cheap, and…” — Moved by the food experience in Japan

    During her stay, what left the deepest impression on Morgan was the food.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:20
    What's so expensive about it?
    No matter how different the cost of living is, what ingredient makes a 1,000-yen bowl of ramen that pricey?
    Labor costs?
    154AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:48
    Re: #6
    Sure, prices and labor costs are on a completely different level, but eating out there is just expensive by default.
    Meals are something you eat at home.
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:21
    So Japan lost to Belgium now too?
    From a Belgian's point of view, Japan is a poor country where people work for low wages

    Japan is a cheap, developing country
    Is that what this means?

    It's the same way Japanese people look down on Southeast Asia
    for having cheap food
    Since when did Japan become like this?
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:35
    Re: #13
    Belgium's GDP per capita is 1.7 times Japan's
    Didn't realize the gap had gotten this big.
    90AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:36
    Re: #13
    Judging everything by "winning or losing" against other countries is the dangerous mindset here.
    Talking about the nation's "pride being hurt"
    who are you, some random individual, to even say that? lol
    225AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:59
    Re: #13
    Nothing's going to change until wages go up.
    This country is finished.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:24
    But lately I've started seeing a bunch of short videos pop up where Westerners say things like "Japan was a letdown" or "I'm cutting my trip short and going home."
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:26
    Re: #28
    That's because the explosion of foreign workers has been dragging down service quality.
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:25
    Japanese people hesitate to even buy cup noodles if they cost more than 200 yen.
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:27
    Re: #32
    I buy fresh noodles and make the soup myself —
    store-bought soup is too heavy to stomach.
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:26
    This article isn't really something to feel smug about.
    It just means Japan is a country with lower prices than Belgium.
    Same structure as when Japanese people used to look down on Southeast Asia for being a place where you could fill up for 100 yen.
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:28
    Re: #39
    No need to look down on anyone — Japan itself has become a country where a beef bowl costs 280 yen.
    72AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:33
    Energy prices have been soaring nonstop since the war in Ukraine started, and thanks to a system that looks perfect on paper — automatically indexing wages to inflation — Belgium right now is spiraling into runaway prices and a brutally widening gap between rich and poor.
    86AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:36
    Re: #72
    I'd say Japan has the bigger gap, honestly — only prices and the wages at a handful of elite companies are going up.
    99AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:37
    Belgium's famous for chocolate, but doesn't that mean they're still holding onto interests from their former colonies?
    118AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:42
    Re: #99
    Belgium's only former colony was the Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly Zaire) — is that even a cacao-growing region? Never heard of it.
    119AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:42
    Traveling in Southeast Asia doesn't even feel all that cheap anymore, does it.
    125AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:43
    Re: #119
    You'd probably feel it if you traveled to the rural areas of Southeast Asia.
    168AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:50
    Re: #119
    Taiwan's already overtaken Japan.

    Thailand and Japan seem to be about even now.
    257AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:04
    I kept getting flooded with these kinds of videos on TikTok,
    but then I realized that even I, if I went abroad and got interviewed, would probably just say "this country is the best!" too — so now I take them with a grain of salt.
    285AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:09
    Re: #257
    Nobody bothers traveling to a country they dislike in the first place,
    so of course they're going to praise it.
    310AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:13
    Re: #257
    "This country is wild" — never thought I'd hear that said about this place.
    258AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:04
    So Japan's sushi is headed for 3,600 yen too, huh…
    273AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:07
    Re: #258
    Even now, 3,600 yen won't get you much in the way of proper sushi hand-made by an actual craftsman.
    274AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:07
    Re: #258
    That's pretty much the going rate already, isn't it —
    though if you go somewhere cheap you can still eat for around 2,000 yen.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This kind of “Japan as seen from abroad” article is based on one tourist’s personal experience, so it’s worth remembering it doesn’t represent overall price levels. The thread’s point that “Belgium’s GDP is 1.7 times Japan’s” lines up with the real, long-term stagnation of Japan’s GDP per capita among major economies — it isn’t just exaggeration. Cheap eating out also comes down to the restaurant industry’s low-margin, high-volume business model and the strong culture of cooking at home. A weak yen makes prices look like a bargain to visitors, but the cost of imported ingredients and labor hits domestic consumers directly — so the very same “cheapness” ends up being read in opposite ways depending on which side of it you’re standing on.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “In Belgium It’s ¥3,600 — In Japan Just ¥900: Belgian Left Speechless by What’s ‘Cheap AND Delicious’.”

  • Kaito Kozono’s 2025 Stats: .309 Average, .753 OPS — Good or Not? 5ch Says ‘In a Low-Offense Era, That’s .800-Level’

    The 2025 season numbers of Hiroshima Toyo Carp shortstop Kaito Kozono (.309 average, 161 hits in 521 at-bats, 2 home runs, 61 RBI, .753 OPS) became a hot topic on 5ch. Posters pointed out that despite the high batting average, his OPS was low — a sign of weak power — and the discussion spread into comparisons with past greats like Ichiro, Kazuyoshi Tatsunami, and Hiroyuki Nakajima, factoring in his position and how he’s been used. Others pushed back, arguing the numbers “aren’t bad considering how low-scoring the game is these days,” splitting opinion right down the middle.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    Is this 'ahe-tan' stat line (forum slang mocking a flashy average paired with near-zero power) really something to brag about?
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:56
    Even this is considered decent by NPB standards overall — that's how many guys can't hit at all.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:09
    Re: #11
    I mean, it's a low-offense era.
    Ten years ago this would translate to an OPS over .800.
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:35
    Re: #11
    An OPS of .750 obviously puts you among the better hitters.
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    He's exactly the type of hitter Osamu Hayashi can't stand (TV pundit known for ripping into high-average, no-power hitters).
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:38
    Re: #14
    Kozono's actually a similar type to Ichiro, isn't he —
    the kind whose stat line looks better than his actual contribution to the team.
    71AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:56
    Re: #50
    Huh?
    Ichiro could single-handedly swing or control a game.
    He's basically a souped-up Kinmoto.
    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:20
    A shortstop with the league's 6th-best OPS (didn't say he could field) — in another era, that's Nakajima-level.
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:26
    Re: #36
    Guess it's all in how you spin it, lol
    64AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:49
    Somehow his reputation has dropped below Nene's at this point.
    65AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:49
    Re: #64
    Feels like Hiroshima might end up scooping up Nene once he gets released.
    67AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:51
    Re: #65
    Nah, Nene was a first-round pick, so that won't happen.
    Depending on the manager, he might get moved to a new position again next year,
    though that kind of conversion would probably only happen if someone like Kuwata became manager.
    87AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:11
    Kozono's numbers are just one season with shaky defense, so he's not Nakajima or Tatsunami, but
    if you're only looking at single-season hitting, yeah, he's in that range.

    Same logic as saying if Uehara or Matsuzaka pitched in today's game, they'd post an ERA in the low 1's.
    89AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:14
    Re: #87
    Nakajima and Tatsunami weren't great defenders either, though.
    94AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:20
    WAR doesn't really matter much here.
    Just let Kozono play whichever position is easiest for him defensively and he'd be plenty usable.

    But the Carp keep shuffling him around on defense instead of committing to developing him properly, so it ends up a half-baked arrangement.
    100AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:25
    Re: #94
    Where's that supposed to be?
    102AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:29
    Who's the better defender, him or Muramatsu?
    104AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:38
    Re: #102
    If we're talking Chunichi's Muramatsu, it's not even close — Muramatsu, hands down.
    113AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:56
    His OPS is about the same as Ichiro's, lol
    116AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:59
    Re: #113
    Have you never looked at Ichiro's OPS from his NPB days?
    122AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:04
    NPB-era Ichiro is basically Masataka Yoshida's hitting bumped up a notch, combined with No. 1 defense and baserunning in the league.
    The gap in class is just too huge.
    128AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:07
    Re: #122
    Look at wRC+ — Yoshida's comfortably higher.
    133AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:08
    Re: #122
    That's overhyping him a bit.
    As an all-around player Ichiro might be a tier above, but purely as a hitter, Yoshida's clearly better.
    123AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:05
    Even 20 years ago, .750 wouldn't have been an 'ahe-tan' line, and by today's standards he's comfortably a gap hitter.
    136AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:08
    Re: #123
    FYI the Central League's average OPS in 2018 was .754.
    And that includes pitchers' at-bats, of course.
    148AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:15
    He's genuinely top-tier.
    He's an elite player, and style-wise he's basically what Tatsunami used to be.
    153AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:18
    Re: #148
    Tatsunami was quietly an on-base machine, so the style's actually pretty different.
    155AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:19
    Re: #153
    Kozono led the league in OBP too, though.
    163AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:24
    Re: #155
    The eras are different, and it's a bit unfair to compare someone who should still be heading toward his peak with someone who completed a long career, but—

    career numbers:
    Kozono: .282 avg / .319 OBP
    Tatsunami: .285 avg / .366 OBP

    Tatsunami's career-long OBP is still higher than Kozono's number from his own best-ever, league-leading season.
    166AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:27
    Re: #163
    That's because the league OPS is off by about .100 between the two eras.
    168AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:29
    Re: #163
    The league OPS is off by about .100 between the two eras.
    Just looking at last year alone, he's in Tatsunami/Nakajima territory.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    OPS (on-base percentage plus slugging percentage) is a stat used to gauge a hitter’s overall offensive value, and .753 is considered slightly below league average. As noted in the thread, the Central League’s average OPS in 2018 was around .754 — and in today’s ongoing low-offense environment, the crux of the debate was that “the same number gets judged differently depending on the era.” Shortstop, Kozono’s primary position, also carries a heavy defensive workload, which complicates measuring his value by batting stats alone. Ichiro and Kazuyoshi Tatsunami are typically discussed in terms of career totals, and the thread doesn’t spell out that comparing them to a single season involves differences in era and years played. Note that later in the thread, unverified claims about Kozono’s personal conduct and legal matters came up; since the facts couldn’t be confirmed, this article omits that exchange.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Kaito Kozono (2025): “.309 average (161-for-521), 2 HR, 61 RBI, .753 OPS” ← this wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww (lolololololololololol).”

  • From “¥300 Million Inheritance” to “¥1 Million in Cash” — 5ch Users Reveal Their Savings

    In response to the simple question “How much do you have saved?,” 5ch users piled in with specific figures one after another. The range ran wide — from cash savings in the low millions of yen, to tens of millions built up through stock investing, to a post claiming a ¥300 million inheritance from a parent — and plenty of replies openly doubted whether these claims were true. The thread then veered into how to actually pay inheritance tax on inherited real estate, with users discussing the deferred-payment system and renouncing an inheritance altogether. Also mixed in: a confession from someone whose sense of money got warped after their income topped ¥10 million for the first time, and a hard-luck story from a former insurance salesperson.

    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:46
    Re: #2
    That's monster money
    How'd you build that up?
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:47
    Re: #4
    Just regular saving and investing
    Well, I'm single in my 40s, so I'm a "loser" 🥺 (self-deprecating slang for unmarried men seen as societal failures)
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:51
    2700

    On this board, that's still nothing (presumably ¥27 million, with the "man"/10,000 unit dropped)
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:52
    Re: #14
    W-whoa… lol
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:53
    Inherited ¥300 million from my parents
    Earned another ¥200 million myself
    From here on I can just live off passive income
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:54
    ¥9,999,999,999 trillion, 999 hundred-million, 999,999,999 (a deliberately absurd, joke mega-number)
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:45
    Re: #18
    Bottom line, that's basically everyone
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:40
    Re: #18
    WOOOOOOOOO
    That's badass!
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:07
    Still no proof posted ("up" = slang for uploading a screenshot as evidence)
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:40
    Re: #22
    No way anyone's actually posting proof…
    If these guys could post proof, pigs would fly tomorrow
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    About ¥200 million from inheritance
    (For context: I'm a virgin NEET shut-in)
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:44
    Re: #32
    You clearly don't know the dark side of inheritance
    Money doesn't just magically land in your lap like that
    Inheritance tax is a weakening device GHQ planted in Japan

    It's become completely normal to have to sell the company or land you inherited just to cover the inheritance tax
    Because you can't pay it unless it's in cash

    Meanwhile, politicians apparently pay zero inheritance tax
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:06
    Re: #42
    Don't just drop something that pisses me off out of nowhere, damn it!
    This is supposed to be a thread for bragging about income and savings — don't suddenly hit us with uncomfortable truths, it's infuriating
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:07
    Re: #42
    If what you're inheriting is cash, you can just pay the tax out of the money you received, no problem
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:44
    Everyone's loaded. Economy must be picking up
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:07
    Re: #41
    Obviously we should exclude the average-wrecking bullshit posts like
    >37
    >32
    >27
    >20
    >17
    >14
    >11, right?
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:00
    You can write down any number you want, it doesn't cost anything
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:08
    Cash: ¥1 million
    Stocks: about ¥7 million

    Want even more though
    52AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:13
    Re: #49
    If you've got ¥1 million, that's plenty! Baldy
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:09
    Re: #45
    Still, lying anonymously doesn't accomplish anything, it's just empty
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:12
    Re: #50
    In that case, can you show proof of that bank passbook with around ¥85 million in it?
    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:16
    Re: #51
    Nope, not gonna
    It's pointless, a hassle, and nothing but risk
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:16
    Re: #51
    I've got just over ¥100 million, but only about ¥30 million of that is in bank deposits — the rest is sitting in investment trusts and NISA accounts, untouched.
    Since deposit insurance only covers up to ¥10 million, I doubt many people keep something like ¥80 million in a single bank.
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:15
    Re: #47
    Then what about the land and the building? What are you supposed to do about those?
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:15
    Whenever I see threads like this, I can never tell if people are bragging about being rich, bragging about being poor, or just dropping the "man" (10,000 yen) unit
    64AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:20
    Re: #54
    It'd be hilarious if Re: #1, who's married, turns out to have a grand total net worth of like ¥690
    59AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:18
    ¥1.7 million
    But I'm buying a ¥1.5 million PC to go with GTA6
    And that's just fine by me
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:19
    Re: #59
    Won't that leave you struggling to get by?
    70AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:29
    Re: #53
    If you can't pay, just sell the inherited land to cover it
    74AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:32
    Re: #70
    Re: #47
    What if you want to inherit land and a building from your parents but can't afford the tax on it?
    76AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:33
    Re: #74
    Isn't renouncing the inheritance the only option?
    77AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:34
    Re: #74
    Use the deferred-payment system and pay it off in installments
    71AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:29
    About ¥2 million combined between my household and personal accounts, plus maybe ¥12-14 million in stocks
    I'm a blue-collar worker myself making ¥3 million a year, so most of it's from inheritance
    Grateful my parents owned their home outright with zero debt
    82AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:39
    Re: #71
    Where did the capital for that company come from? When, and how?
    79AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:37
    I think banks offer inheritance-tax loans for situations like this
    81AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:39
    Re: #79
    Probably because even if you inherit land, it takes time to turn it into cash?
    92AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    For a ¥50 million property inherited by one person, after deductions the inheritance tax comes out to around ¥1.6 million — that's nothing
    If anything, it'd be worrying if you couldn't even afford that much
    100AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:47
    Re: #92
    What if you don't have any cash savings?
    97AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:46
    Up until last year I was making around ¥4 million a year, but I went independent, landed a big job, and now both this year and next I'm guaranteed to clear ¥10 million
    It's messing with my sense of money
    108AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:02
    Re: #97
    I feel you, buddy
    I screwed up too — ended up at a brutally abusive company working as an insurance salesman for a major life insurer
    Over 3 years: ¥40 million in sales/commission on insurance premiums, a nominal annual salary of ¥10 million but take-home of only ¥6 million, which plunged me into dire poverty — that fatal blow is what made me switch jobs
    After moving to a competitor in the same industry, my annual income recovered to over ¥7 million every year since. Best decision ever

    Background and Key Points on This Topic

    Threads asking “how much have you saved?” are a 5ch staple, and the unspoken rule is to take them with a huge grain of salt. True to form, one reply here dismissed the “¥300 million inheritance” post as “basically a lie,” underscoring that the whole thread runs on self-reported, unverifiable claims. That said, the discussion around inheritance tax is grounded in real practice: when inherited assets aren’t cash, options like paying in installments through the deferred-payment system, or renouncing the inheritance entirely if the burden is too much, genuinely exist. The claim that GHQ (the postwar Allied occupation authority) deliberately planted the inheritance tax to weaken Japan is nothing more than an urban legend — the current inheritance tax system was actually built up through postwar tax reforms. Also worth noting: since posters don’t distinguish between “savings,” “assets,” “annual income,” and “take-home pay,” the same figure of “¥100 million” can mean very different things depending on whether it’s cash deposits or total assets including investment funds — something to keep in mind while reading.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, aka “Geha”) board thread “[For Geha Folks] How Much Have You Got Saved? [Nest Egg].”

  • Japan Beats Ecuador on Penalties, But Still No New Talent Emerges — Sergio Echigo’s Criticism Splits 5ch

    Japan faced Ecuador in the Kirin Cup and won 4-3 on penalties after playing to a scoreless 0-0 draw. In his Nikkan Sports column, Sergio Echigo (81) lamented a first half that offered little to watch, and criticized the fact that no clear new talent has emerged across Japan’s three matches so far. On 5ch, discussion spread around frustration with manager Hajime Moriyasu’s tendency to stick with the same core group of players, and debate over why no new talent is breaking through — while some pushed back, noting Ecuador had a full week of rest compared to Japan’s three-day turnaround, arguing “Ecuador’s own conditions should be factored in too.” Rather than the match itself, it was the evaluation of squad selection and lineup policy that split opinion.

    <Kirin Cup: Japan 0 (5 PK 4) 0 Ecuador> ◇October 1 ◇Nissan Stadium

    Japan (ranked 17th by FIFA) faced Ecuador (ranked 25th), both sides having been eliminated in the round of 32 at this summer’s World Cup across North and Central America, and won on penalties after a 0-0 draw. Nikkan Sports columnist Sergio Echigo (81) lamented a first half that was especially short on highlights, and voiced unease that no solid new talent has emerged across the three matches so far.

    In a similar penalty shootout the night before at the Asian Games, the “younger sibling” team (the U-21 squad) came through; tonight it was the “older sibling’s” turn. But since the older sibling was playing at home, I at least wanted to see them push forward a bit more.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:39
    That's the team Korea (the self-styled "big brother") beat 3-0, easy. (Japan) still can't seem to catch up, huh.
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:04
    Re: #3
    Korea lost 1-4 to Uruguay.
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:40
    Wait, didn't this guy die already? Is this Sergio Echigo the Second?
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:41
    But Poichi (nickname for coach Moriyasu) has run this team for eight years and built up absolutely nothing.
    He just lines up whatever players developed on their own.
    And the moment those guys break down or get old, it's "oh noooo, we're doomed."
    He tries to add some flair by calling up guys like Shiogai, but in the end it's just a gimmick and nothing comes of it.
    58AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:56
    Re: #6
    It wasn't really Tanimura's fault — it was Suzuki Yuito missing shot after shot that killed it.

    Tanaka Ao's incredible vertical pass → Tanimura → Suzuki Yuito, and it still didn't end in a goal — that's rough.

    https://x.com/98sep10/status/2105637314286477595
    59AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:57
    Re: #58
    That blazing-fast through ball, Premier League-honed, was something else.
    66AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:14
    Re: #58
    With a pass as sluggish as Tanaka's, the defense has time to reset its shape, so it never actually becomes a threat.
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:42
    Getting paid just to sit there and complain — what a sweet gig.
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:46
    We all saw the hopeless gap against the football powerhouses at the last World Cup.
    Until Japan closes that gap, none of this even matters.
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:47
    A garbage pitch and garbage attack from both sides — no wonder it ended in a total "salt" match (5ch slang for a dull, scoreless draw).
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    The reason Moriyasu's squad racks up so many injuries is that he has them playing this "unity and grit" style even in friendlies — he's got them doing intense defending in exhibition matches of all things.
    I thought, this guy must be an idiot. He should just quit already.
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    Oh come on, bro — isn't tonight, into the small hours, 8:00(?), the Venezuela match? Let's go cheer them on, bro! (comment uses deliberately garbled, baby-talk-style spelling as a joke)
    17AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:53
    > Just like the host prefecture's team at the Kokutai (National Sports Festival, where the host region's team mysteriously does well), Japan will probably end up winning gloriously in the end.

    That's Sergio for you —
    he's seen right through just how rigged the Kokutai really is.
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:56
    This guy, and honestly everybody else, never brings up the fact that Ecuador had a full week of rest — that's what makes none of this feel trustworthy.
    Especially with the Uruguay match, people were desperate to cry "traveled from the other side of the planet! time difference! fatigue!!!!"
    By that logic Ecuador should have steamrolled Japan.
    Honestly, maybe it's South America's declining level we should be worrying about, not Japan's.

    If new players could just pop up one after another that easily, nobody would have any trouble.
    Grown adult still thinking like it's a video game, huh? (lit. "game brain")
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    The reason Matsuki never gets a look-in is that Moriyasu only trusts his usual regulars ("itsumen"). That's exactly why the squad never gains any depth, and why both the Asian Cup and the World Cup ended in failure. Playing matches like this over and over is pointless.
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:06
    Moriyasu's only sticking around until the Asian Cup anyway, so none of this really matters at this point.
    Feels like all he wants are fill-ins to hold the fort until his "strongest lineup of regulars" is fully assembled again.
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:06
    Re: #5
    The weight of a single goal, the catharsis when the balance finally breaks —
    if you can't appreciate that, go watch basketball or volleyball.

    The thrill of unexpected plays born from team coordination —
    if you can't appreciate that, go watch baseball.

    But hey, watch it however you like.
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:10
    Is Japan's lack of finishing some kind of chronic illness? It never gets cured no matter how much time passes…
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:13
    Re: #30
    Isn't South America's finishing pretty lacking too, though?
    81AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:42
    Re: #30
    What were you even watching at that World Cup?
    The team that won was the one that decided individual finishing has its limits, so they'd raise their organizational strength instead.
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:25
    Well, new talent isn't really necessary anyway.
    Moripo's (nickname for Moriyasu) only goal is the Asian Cup, so the players he's used for the past eight years are more than enough.
    The only one who's actually retired from the national team is Endo.
    And if the center-backs start dropping like flies again, don't worry, he'll just casually call Taniguchi back up too.
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:40
    Re: #38
    At this point just commit and go down together.
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:43
    Re: #39
    Name one country that actually got stronger because its supporters were harsh on it.
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:49
    Re: #46
    The first one that comes to mind is… Big-Brother-land. (i.e., Japan itself, using the sarcastic "oniichan" nickname)
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:49
    Re: #44
    Why is Sergio only ever condescending toward Japan, I wonder?
    52AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:51
    Re: #51
    Of course he talks down to them — he's above them, so that's just natural.
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:53
    Re: #52
    But he's the same guy who tells Japanese people to stop being condescending about Chinese football.
    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:54
    Re: #52
    He defends every other Asian country, yet only ever criticizes Japanese football.
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:52
    Re: #50
    Japan's World Cup results keep getting worse though.
    So yeah, guess no such country exists after all.
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:54
    Re: #53
    But it's still fresh in memory that big brother (Japan) took down a Germany and a Portugal that were both playing all-in, backs-against-the-wall football, right?
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:08
    [Sergio Echigo] Takefusa Kubo still isn't really "Real Madrid" after all… Is there even a Japanese player who's truly moved to a big club in the real sense?
    https://www.soccerdigestweb.com/news/detail/id=63182
    August 23, 2019

    And no matter how often this comes up afterward, it just keeps getting ignored.
    70AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:17
    Re: #62
    I think what he's getting at is that they haven't actually been performing well.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Sergio Echigo has spent years writing sharply critical columns about Japanese football for Nikkan Sports, and his complaint here that “no new talent is emerging” isn’t a new claim — it’s simply an extension of an argument he’s made repeatedly over time. Meanwhile, within the thread, some replies point out that while Japan played on a three-day turnaround, Ecuador had a full week of rest since its previous match — a scheduling gap that a simple strength comparison doesn’t capture, and one that’s easy to miss from the article summary alone. Also, the “older sibling” and “younger sibling” language in the article refers to the senior national team (“older sibling”) winning its shootout the night after the U-21 team (“younger sibling”) won its own shootout at the Asian Games — a turn of phrase from within the column itself — which is a different, unrelated usage from the “oniichan” (big bro) nickname that keeps popping up in the 5ch replies, so the two shouldn’t be confused. Evaluations of Moriyasu’s player selection also mix two different yardsticks — Asian Cup results versus World Cup results — which is part of why opinion in the thread is so divided.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Sergio Echigo: Older brother, I wish you’d pushed forward just a bit more… New talent still hasn’t emerged.”

  • National Tax Agency Reveals Salary Breakdown for 51.63 Million Workers — Most Common Bracket Is the ¥3 Million Range

    According to the Private Sector Salary Survey released by the National Tax Agency on September 29, the average annual salary among 51.63 million salaried workers who worked continuously throughout fiscal 2025 (Reiwa 7) was ¥4.87 million. However, the largest bracket sits below that average: the ¥3-4 million range, with 7.99 million people, or 15.5% of the total. On 5channel, the gap between this breakdown and claims that “I heard the average was around ¥7 million” became a talking point, along with the income gaps between regular employees, non-regular workers, the self-employed, and company executives — and posters ended up comparing their own salaries with each other.

    (details omitted)

    What does the annual salary breakdown look like? The biggest group, at 15.5%, is in the ¥3 million range

    The survey covers 51.63 million “salaried workers employed throughout the year” — those who worked continuously from January through December of fiscal 2025. Their average salary is ¥4.87 million, but the bracket with the largest number of people isn’t at that average.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:53
    But didn't the government say the average was around ¥7 million?
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:57
    Re: #4

    That's because the National Personnel Authority survey (used to benchmark civil servant pay) only covers large corporations.
    210AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:14
    Re: #4
    Because that stat only counts large companies.
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:06
    Even making ¥10 million a year, I've never once felt like life was great. No hobbies, I drive a kei car (Japan's mini-car class), and all I do on days off is play video games.
    79AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:20
    Re: #34
    That doesn't mean the money actually piles up, though.
    I make ¥16 million a year and totally get it.
    190AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:01
    Re: #79
    Feel that.
    I make ¥25 million and yeah, same feeling.
    216AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:20
    Re: #79
    Re: #190
    Lol, a salary-flexing contest breaking out on a weekday afternoon.
    Guess I'll throw in my ¥30 million then lol
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:11
    Knew it.
    And they call this the longest economic boom ever, with insane price hikes and a tax burden so heavy it's basically "50% to the government, 50% to you" (a reference to the old feudal peasant tax rate).
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:13
    Re: #49
    Maybe that's groundwork for a rate hike…

    Gasoline subsidies plus an ultra-low birthrate society make the leading economic index easy to push up.
    63AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:14
    Re: #49
    That tax burden rate is just calculated from income.
    Consumption tax, gasoline tax, and the rest get taken on top of that, so it doesn't stop at 50%.
    113AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:34
    Under ¥4 million a year — is that basically working just to survive?
    You can't really spend money after work or on your days off, right?
    122AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:37
    Re: #113
    Probably married, right? (With the husband as the main breadwinner)
    128AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:39
    Re: #113
    That's basically what life looks like in a developing country. And that's the biggest income bracket there is.
    143AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    Re: #113
    5channel built its whole identity on the "whoever works, loses" mentality.
    139AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:42
    I make ¥2.3 million a year but I still save ¥800,000 annually.
    142AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:43
    Re: #139
    Here comes the "NISA-poor" guy (someone who scrimps on living expenses to max out their tax-free investment account).
    145AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:44
    Re: #139
    That's doable if you're still living with your parents.
    147AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:45
    Men
    Regular employees: ¥6.23 million
    Non-regular: ¥2.70 million
    Women
    Regular employees: ¥4.44 million
    Non-regular: ¥1.79 million
    166AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:51
    Re: #147
    90% of executives are men, and that pulls up the average for male regular employees too — that's part of why the gender gap looks the way it does.
    175AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:56
    Re: #166
    Executive pay is on a completely different level, so it drags the whole average up with it.
    194AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:04
    Re: #166
    Executives are included in the overall figure, but they're excluded from both the "regular employee" and "non-regular employee" breakdowns.
    The number for male regular employees is the average for ordinary male regular employees who aren't executives.
    156AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:48
    What's with the under-¥2 million bracket?
    They should only count full-time workers in this stat.
    172AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:55
    Re: #156
    A lot of that is small-scale farmers out in the countryside lol
    Nice try though.
    180AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:57
    Re: #172
    Small-scale farmers probably aren't incorporated, so wouldn't their income not count as salary income?
    But if farming alone can't pay the bills and they're also working a part-time job, that part-time pay would count as salary income.
    If that's what you mean, then that group might be the under-¥2 million part-timers.
    198AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:08
    Re: #172
    This is salary income we're talking about.
    If they're working full-time, wouldn't that be illegal (i.e., below minimum wage)?
    200AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:09
    Re: #194
    Where does it say that?
    214AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:16
    Re: #200
    It's clearly stated in the survey report that executives are broken out separately.



    For reference, here are the latest figures for executives, regular employees, and non-regular workers:

    【Executives】
    Overall average: ¥7.86 million
    Male average: ¥9.00 million
    Female average: ¥4.97 million

    【Regular employees】
    Overall average: ¥5.59 million
    Male average: ¥6.23 million
    Female average: ¥4.43 million

    【Non-regular】
    Overall average: ¥2.09 million
    Male average: ¥2.69 million
    Female average: ¥1.79 million

    Background and Key Points

    These figures come from the National Tax Agency’s Private Sector Salary Survey, covering 51.63 million salaried workers employed throughout the year. Against an average of ¥4.87 million, the largest bracket actually sits below that, in the ¥3 million range — a reminder that the average alone can be misleading about the real picture. The thread’s claims that “the government said the average was ¥7 million” appear to stem from mixing up figures that cover different populations, such as civil-servant pay surveys or statistics weighted toward large corporations. It’s also worth noting that conflating the overall average — which includes executive compensation — with the separate averages for regular and non-regular employees can obscure what’s really driving the gap between men’s and women’s earnings.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Express+) thread “Distribution of 51.63 Million Salaried Workers Released by the National Tax Agency on September 29 — Largest Bracket Is the 7.99 Million People Earning ¥3-4 Million.”

  • AI Blamed for Illustrator Job Decline — 5ch: ‘Erotic Artists Are Surviving Better’

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (a general live-commentary board) sparked discussion after someone claimed that the spread of generative AI has cut into illustrators’ work. The conversation kicked off with a report that an acquaintance had gone out of business providing illustrations, and posters described how AI can now handle not just art but website creation and even app development with ease. Some argued that demand holds up better for erotic work than non-erotic work, while others pointed out that even making a living off dojinshi (self-published fan comics) requires manga-drawing skill, which is a completely different skill from illustration. The view that “creative work that’s just an extension of imitation will get weeded out” clashed with the counterargument that “this isn’t just an illustrator problem,” and the debate never really converged.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:09
    That's seriously too sad…
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:12
    Doesn't say when this happened.
    Probably just means erotic artists' work dropped a bit.
    89AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:58
    Re: #4
    Erotic artists are the ones actually surviving, though.
    9AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:16
    It's not my main job, just pocket-money side work, but my commissions haven't dropped so I don't really feel the impact.
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:20
    Re: #9
    Maybe it was already zero to begin with?
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:22
    Re: #9 Just ignore the snark.
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:17
    A friend of mine who started a business doing website creation and illustration work, and was doing pretty well for himself, went under.
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    Re: #10
    How did it feel seeing your friend's business fold?
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:35
    Re: #10
    Yeah, it's not just art — website creation is easy with AI too now.
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:37
    Re: #10
    Simple websites and apps can be knocked out easily with AI these days.
    You just paste in whatever code it spits out and it's done — it's wild.
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:18
    This isn't just an illustrator thing.
    Why do you guys love talking about illustrators so much?
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:23
    Re: #11
    Sales consultants aren't needed anymore either.
    70AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:46
    Re: #11
    There are a lot of wannabes who think they can make a living off doodles,
    and a lot of them seem to think opportunities only come around when the industry's booming.
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    Just sell dojinshi (self-published fan comics), then.
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:28
    Re: #26
    Dojinshi basically only sell if they're manga, not single illustrations.
    Drawing a single piece of art and drawing manga are totally different skills, so a lot of illustrators actually can't draw manga.
    Plenty of people are great at single illustrations but absolutely terrible at manga.
    147AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:21
    Re: #33
    Guess Akira Toriyama was the exception, then.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    The talking point shifted from 'AI art will never catch on' to 'people got tired of AI art already!!'
    Because it actually did catch on, lol.
    91AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:59
    Re: #28
    The situation's different for non-erotic versus erotic work.
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:26
    We really ought to show more respect for our true creator artists 😥


    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:31
    I hate these threads that just stir up fights between the artist camp and the AI camp.
    Enough already.
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:35
    Re: #36
    The artist side always gets wrecked in these, lol.
    71AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:49
    Artists were the first ones to get wiped out, huh.
    77AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    Re: #71 'Artist' (eshi) doesn't quite fit here.
    Nitpicky, but the term is 'illustrator.'
    78AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:52
    Re: #71 'Artist' (eshi) doesn't quite fit here.
    Nitpicky, but the term is 'illustrator.'
    82AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:54
    There was a funny manga about someone who lost their job to AI and became a farmer instead.
    122AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:13
    Old ladies are tough, man, tough.
    137AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:18
    A lot of people used to say creative fields would be fine, though.
    144AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:21
    Re: #137
    People with real creativity will survive, won't they?
    It's just the ones who were only ever extending imitation that are dying out.
    149AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:22
    Re: #137
    People who can create something from nothing will survive.
    So-called 'creators' (lol) who can only ever imitate others will disappear.
    153AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:23
    Re: #137
    Manga is more creative than illustration, so it's still hanging on.
    Though it's getting risky too before long.
    138AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:19
    Robots are better than useless humans (hitokasu, i.e. 'human trash') — once you've made the initial investment, they work accurately 24/7 without complaining.
    145AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:21
    Re: #138
    Eventually a human's 'job' is probably just going to be spending their basic income.

    And the only other way to build wealth will shift to things like livestreaming.
    155AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:24
    Re: #138
    The more precise the movements a robot needs to make, the more maintenance matters.
    Also, the parts that make up the product have manufacturing tolerances too, you know.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The impact of generative AI on creative fields has been a recurring topic in the illustration industry since image-generation AI went mainstream around 2022, and Japan’s Agency for Cultural Affairs has been working since 2023 to lay out guidelines on AI and copyright. The thread’s view that “demand holds up better for erotic work” reflects the fact that regulations on AI-generated content tend to be looser for erotic material than for non-erotic work. Separately, the issue of “passing off AI-traced work as hand-drawn” is a distinct question about the transparency of the creative process and the credibility of self-promotion on social media, one that should be weighed apart from whether the technology itself is good or bad. Worth noting: the opinions in the thread are mostly anecdotes and impressions, with no statistics actually showing a drop in commissions or income.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Illustrators’ Work Has Plummeted Because of Generative AI.”

  • Nintendo Switch 2 Still Outsells PS5 4-to-1 in Weekly Sales Even After ¥10,000 Price Hike

    On May 25, 2026, Nintendo raised the price of the Nintendo Switch 2 console from ¥49,980 to ¥59,980 — a ¥10,000 increase — reportedly due to rising semiconductor memory prices and a weak yen. Four months after the hike, weekly sales for September 14–20 came to 34,341 units, about four times the PS5’s sales over the same period. The thread split between those saying “comparing it to the PS5 is meaningless” and those saying “the fact that it hasn’t slowed down even after the price hike, at this price point, is a big deal.” Discussion also spread to comparisons with the 3DS’s supposedly poor second-year sales, and to the current state of the PS5, which has had its own string of price increases.

    On May 25, 2026, Nintendo raised the price of the Nintendo Switch 2 console by ¥10,000, from ¥49,980 to ¥59,980.

    The reasons given are rising semiconductor memory prices and the weak yen.

    Four months later, weekly sales for September 14–20 came to 34,341 units.

    Source: hashout.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:43
    Capcom: "PS is a barrier"
    Falcom: "PS is petering out"
    Square Enix: "PS5 is mid-range"
    Hara◯ (name redacted): "Does PS actually sell the numbers it announces?"
    Hideo Kojima: "I suddenly got a cancellation notice for 'PHYSINT' from SIE"
    PS official: "It's no longer on store shelves"

    MAGES: "PS isn't profitable" ←New!
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:58
    Re: #5
    GEO (used-game retailer): "We've got PS5s that customers bought to ride the hype but haven't turned on in over a year"
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:00
    Re: #5
    The cast of characters is now complete.
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:01
    Re: #5
    Some publisher: "Other/Misc"

    Add that one to the list too
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:47
    Only 70,000 units away from being overtaken by the "commercial flop" 3DS

    Year-2 sales
    3DS Switch 2
    Week 01 72,032 23,059
    Week 05 94,776 32,797
    Week 10 71,282 28,395
    Week 11 88,226 37,165
    Week 12 45,063 20,734
    Week 13 41,712 22,265
    Week 14 51,804 24,281
    Week 15 101,718 28,341
    Week 16 61,212 34,341
    Week 17 56,394 32,198

    Total 6,288,334 6,360,353
    https://gamesdata.info/hard-3ds.html

    3DS price cut: a desperate strategic pivot to boost adoption after poor sales
    https://mantan-web.jp/article/20110729dog00m200002000c.html
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:54
    "It's outselling the PS5!" doesn't really seem to mean much though
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:55
    Re: #13
    Not sure what exactly you think doesn't mean anything, but it does mean something.
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    Re: #13
    Looking at the price bracket, Switch 2 has kept selling steadily even after the price hike, unlike the PS5, which is struggling despite even releasing a Japanese-only model.

    That blows a hole in the "too expensive to sell" theory.
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    Re: #16
    At the end of the day, what matters is whether it's hitting Nintendo's internal targets and tracking as expected. Outselling the PS5 doesn't really have much bearing on that, does it?
    77AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:02
    Re: #22
    Media outlets with no ties to Nintendo obviously have no way of knowing Nintendo's internal targets. So naturally they compare it to the PS5 instead, since it's the rival console and also a current-gen system — that's just the go-to comparison.
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:07
    At this point PS5's name recognition is probably on par with the Dreamcast back in its day.
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:13
    Re: #31
    Is that really true? The Dreamcast sold pretty well actually:

    Resident Evil CODE: Veronica — 403,962
    Seaman: The Forbidden Pet — 399,342
    Sonic Adventure — 385,365
    Sega Rally 2 — 374,892
    Shenmue Chapter 1: Yokosuka — 355,902
    61AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:39
    Re: #31
    Well, the Dreamcast was running TV commercials during primetime though.
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:12
    I mean, the PS5's had its share of price hikes too, and it doesn't feel like sales have dropped off that much.
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:14
    Re: #40
    Both now and back then, it's nothing but scalper merchandise for stuff unrelated to gaming — military repurposing, mining rigs, you name it. On the surface it's sold over 7 million of that "junk PlayStation," but as an actual gaming console it's doubtful it's even cracked 3 million.
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:12
    Is the PS5 even shipping properly to begin with? They don't track unit sales, do they?
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:16
    Re: #41
    Even at Yodobashi the stock is plentiful, so it's just that there's no demand.

    https://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001009510756/
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:12
    Up to around the 20-million mark, the 3DS actually spread faster than the Switch did, so there's nothing wrong with it.
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:19
    Re: #42
    The Switch's big surge started around when Animal Crossing: New Horizons launched during the pandemic. Even by the standards of past Nintendo hardware, that growth curve was pretty abnormal.
    69AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:55
    Re: #53
    That's beside the point. It kept selling because it's a unified home/portable system that kept getting a steady stream of games. Even during COVID, PlayStation didn't see that kind of growth.
    72AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:57
    Re: #53
    The Switch was actually sold out pretty much from the start, and that lasted a good while. It seems like it only became easy to buy around 2019.
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:14
    The claim in Re: #7 that the 3DS had poor sales is false, so feel free to ignore it.

    Cumulative through week 69 / weekly sales
    6,518,576 161,624 DS
    6,360,353 *32,198 Switch 2
    6,288,334 *56,394 3DS
    5,646,918 *49,534 Wii
    5,575,841 *31,502 GBA
    4,524,037 *46,750 Switch
    4,172,069 *75,693 PS2
    3,210,909 *36,713 PSP
    2,032,355 *71,945 GC
    1,941,806 *13,893 PS3
    1,694,137 *13,073 WiiU
    1,440,216 *10,117 PS4
    1,428,789 *25,679 PS5
    1,419,690 *19,879 PSV
    *,389,439 ***,937 Xbox
    *,371,014 **3,774 XB360
    *,160,346 **1,962 XBS
    *,*64,051 ***,479 XBO
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:17
    Re: #45
    I was wondering why nobody's comparing it to the Switch, but turns out it's outselling the Switch too. I see.
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:22
    Re: #45
    There's something sitting below the WiiU there…
    55AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:21
    PlayStation is a home console you never take outside, so it should've gotten a bigger boost from everyone being stuck at home during COVID — so why didn't it…?
    58AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:36
    Re: #55
    Because it doesn't have Animal Crossing, that's why.
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:49
    "Keeps selling"? It's already crashed below the Switch's 8th-year sales numbers, and this is only year two.
    65AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:53
    Re: #62
    Did the Switch sell about as much as the Switch 2 in its first year too?
    67AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:54
    The Switch was in short supply for a while, so its early numbers weren't that impressive — it was actually below the 3DS.
    https://teitengame.com/graf_b.html
    82AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:11
    Re: #67
    Early on, the Switch got so little attention that it felt like it just quietly showed up and people only noticed after the fact.
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:13
    Re: #82
    Wait, before Yodobashi had infinite stock, it was a brutal fight just to land a pre-order. Were you living up in the mountains or something??
    86AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:14
    Re: #84
    Must've been in a room with no windows lol
    85AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:13
    Now you've even got idiots claiming "You need games, a memory card, AND a Pro Controller to properly enjoy the Switch 2, so it's actually crazy expensive!" But when you counter with "Then you'd need to add the cost of a monitor to play the PS5 too," they lose it completely.
    87AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:15
    Re: #85
    Wouldn't you need a monitor to properly enjoy the Switch 2 as well though? Having one made a big difference on the original Switch too.
    90AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:20
    Personally, I think "nice to have" and "absolutely necessary" are two different things.
    98AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:26
    Re: #90
    I mean, a washing machine or a laundromat is essential too, if you think about it…

    Though I guess the "skip-the-bath crew" (people who don't bathe daily) don't need one…?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    It’s easy to overlook that Switch 2’s May 2026 price hike was attributed to external factors — rising semiconductor memory prices and a weak yen — rather than to poor sales on Nintendo’s part. Within the thread, opinions split over how meaningful it is to frame this as “outselling the PS5,” a debate that really comes down to the gap between each company’s undisclosed internal targets and the weekly sales figures the media actually has access to. The comparison with the 3DS surfaced data showing Switch 2’s cumulative second-year sales running almost neck-and-neck with the 3DS’s — but the 3DS later lost steam after a price cut, so whether Switch 2 follows the same trajectory remains to be seen. There were also moments where figures of dubious accuracy — like extreme North American weekly sales numbers sourced from social media screenshots — spread without verification, a reminder to treat sales figures without an official announcement with caution.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Media: ‘Switch 2’s weekly sales reach 4x PS5’s even after ¥10,000 price hike’.”

  • Japan’s innovation ranking holds steady at 12th worldwide — 5ch asks: ‘Does Switzerland even have anything going on?’

    The UN’s World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) released its 2026 Global Innovation Index, with Japan holding steady at 12th place, unchanged from last year. Switzerland topped the rankings for the 16th consecutive year, South Korea came in 4th, and China 10th. On 5ch, some users questioned whether Switzerland really has that kind of innovative muscle, while others pointed to pharmaceutical giant Roche and the country’s high number of unicorn startups to explain Switzerland’s real strengths — sparking a broader debate about how reliable the index itself actually is.

    Japan ranks 12th in the world for innovation — UN index puts Switzerland on top

    [Geneva, Kyodo] The UN’s World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) announced on the 29th its 2026 Global Innovation Index, with Japan placing 12th, unchanged from the previous year.

    Switzerland topped the list for the 16th year running.

    Source: news.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 1, 2026 00:16
    Yeah, figures.
    Japanese companies have all sunk below the radar —
    thanks to South Korea,
    China,
    and getting worn down by a merciless onslaught of patent trolls on top of that.
    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 01:34
    Switzerland in 1st place? What a worthless ranking.
    4AnonymousOct 1, 2026 01:34
    South Korea isn't #1, so this index must be fake!
    5AnonymousOct 1, 2026 05:33
    Innovation?!?!

    So America's AI doesn't count for #1?
    This ranking can't be trusted at all.

    I guess #2 would be China, going by those physical-AI videos I've seen.
    6AnonymousOct 1, 2026 05:44
    Switzerland?
    It's cold there, so on snowy days
    Heidi, Girl of the Alps (the classic anime),
    makes you cheese fondue

    Buy some potatoes and sauté them in a pan.
    Buy some cheese too, melt it in,
    and work it into a cream. Cream cheese over potatoes.
    Delicious.
    9AnonymousOct 1, 2026 08:46
    They're probably ranking this by fax machine and floppy disk usage rates lol
    10AnonymousOct 1, 2026 10:36
    Are they really spending budget on such a pointless index?
    11AnonymousOct 1, 2026 10:38
    Kyodo News is weirdly obsessed with rankings, isn't it?
    12AnonymousOct 1, 2026 10:43
    Japan's turned into a paradise for civil servants, after all.
    Technical prowess is an afterthought.
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:24
    Re: #12
    If it were a ranking of civil servant salaries, Japan could probably land near the top — let's compete in that instead.
    18AnonymousOct 1, 2026 15:47
    Switzerland?!?!

    If we're talking pharma companies, it's America's Pfizer and Moderna, right?
    22AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:45
    Re: #18
    Switzerland's Roche is the world's #1 pharma company by revenue.
    Pfizer is #4 globally.
    19AnonymousOct 1, 2026 15:54
    Japan,
    wasn't it supposed to be dead last?

    Toyota and its much-touted carbon neutrality —
    what happened to the solid-state battery? Doesn't exist.
    What happened to the hydrogen engine car? Doesn't exist.
    AI self-driving? Zero from the start. Doesn't exist.
    20AnonymousOct 1, 2026 15:54
    Innovation might need some slack to breathe.
    Japan today doesn't have enough slack left to tolerate failure.
    Name's Zeni Crazy (a self-given handle, literally 'Money Crazy'), heh heh.
    21AnonymousOct 1, 2026 16:46
    What even is this Swiss 'innovation' supposed to be?
    If it's that impressive, put it in the news more.
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:54
    Unicorn company count: Japan has 6, Switzerland has 16.

    Switzerland ranks #1 in Europe for unicorns per capita.
    With a population of roughly 9 million, Switzerland ranked 13th in the world for number of unicorns as of July 2026. On top of that, it's reportedly #1 in Europe for unicorns per million people.
    24AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:13
    Japanese people aren't great at innovation — kaizen (incremental improvement) is about as far as it goes.
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:16
    Re: #22
    Yeah, I get that.

    The question here is whether there's actually anything that deserves to be called real innovation.
    27AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:48
    Re: #25
    It's a financial powerhouse,
    so it funds all sorts of research with money from all over the world.
    And for talent, it can just cherry-pick from neighboring countries.
    26AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:33
    Places like San Francisco in America draw
    immigrants from all over the world, and the cutting-edge companies there
    make a point of giving every single immigrant on the street
    at least one shot.

    America gathers talent not just from within its own borders but from
    the entire world. Even Elon Musk
    is an immigrant from overseas.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:52
    There are still local governments that straight up make you submit deliverables on CD-R, you know.
    And on top of that, they want it printed out with a hanko (personal seal stamp) too, lol
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 05:33
    A country built on finance, tourism, games/anime, and semiconductor manufacturing equipment.
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 05:47
    South Korea's whole thing is semiconductors though (and just memory chip manufacturing at that).
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 05:51
    It's kind of like those 'world university rankings.'
    There are several of them, but they're all mystery rankings that Britain started to attract more Chinese international students,
    and the metrics are sometimes tuned so that top British universities come out on top.
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 06:21
    Re: #1
    Well, that's about par for the course—————

    Since Japan won't put the money in, the country's future is just going to keep sliding further and further down!
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:10
    So Japan's share of the UN budget contribution should drop to around 12th place too, then.
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:45
    There was a time when people said Japan
    innovates and advances technology
    but just can't turn that technology into money.
    And yet Japan is also the country that grew its economy all the way into a bubble.
    No need to worry about what the peanut gallery thinks.
    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:03
    Not bad at all
    for a country built on tourism.
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:04
    I don't think style over substance cuts it.
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:14
    Aren't you forgetting about Switzerland's ABB?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The Global Innovation Index isn’t just about patent counts or R&D spending — it’s a composite measure covering institutional frameworks, talent quality, business sophistication, creative output, and more, so it doesn’t necessarily measure “technological strength” on its own. The reason Switzerland has topped the list for 16 straight years, as threads here touched on, comes down to highly profitable companies like pharma giant Roche, plus the fact that it leads Europe in unicorn startups per capita — numbers that show just how concentrated its research investment and financial capital are, despite being a small country. On the other hand, comments questioning the index’s methodology itself don’t cite any specific details about WIPO’s published evaluation criteria or weightings, so it’s worth noting these aren’t exactly substantiated critiques. As for why Japan’s ranking stayed flat at 12th, the usual structural issues get raised year after year: Japan holds its own in areas like patent filings, but falls behind on startup funding scale and market flexibility.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Tech] Japan ranks 12th in the world for innovation — UN index puts Switzerland on top, South Korea 4th, China 10th.”

  • Seko Ayumu’s World Cup experience sparks rapid growth — Moriyasu and others praise him, with some admitting ‘he used to be truly awful’

    Ayumu Seko of Le Havre has visibly raised his standing after gaining experience at the North/Central America World Cup. At a press conference on September 30, manager Hajime Moriyasu praised the improvement in his defensive intensity and speed of judgment. With Koki Itakura and Takehiro Tomiyasu sidelined by injury, Seko has now started in two straight matches. On 5ch (formerly 2ch)’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, posters expressed surprise at the turnaround of a player once harshly criticized, and the discussion expanded to cover the similarly once-maligned-turned-prominent midfielder Ao Tanaka, as well as a clash of opinions over the national team’s goal tally and how players are used.

    Japan national team defender Ayumu Seko (26, Le Havre) has seen his stock rise rapidly.

    Seko, who made his first appearance on the big stage at the North/Central America World Cup, is a regular for the Japan squad but hasn’t locked down an undisputed starting spot, facing competition from defenders Koki Itakura (Borussia Mönchengladbach) and Takehiro Tomiyasu (Crystal Palace). Still, in the restart after the World Cup, a string of injuries along the back line has helped him start in two consecutive matches. He could also start in the October 1 international friendly against Ecuador (at Nissan Stadium).

    At his September 30 press conference, manager Hajime Moriyasu offered praise: “I’ve really felt him growing. He keeps improving, steadily building toward the top world standard. We’ve had injuries, but as the central figure in our defense, he’s not losing out physically even against high-intensity attacking opponents, and his quality has risen in reading the game early to snuff out danger before it happens, winning individual duels, covering for teammates, and anticipating the play to cut off the opponent’s attacking chances.”

    Source: tokyo-sports.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:37
    That Seko who used to get absolutely trashed…
    Zion too, but once guys step up to a Big 5 league, they become different players
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:48
    Re: #4
    Tanaka Ao has been incredible too, great on both ends
    No wonder — he's a starter for a top Premier League side, had a Man of the Match showing, and keeps scoring against big clubs
    His physical development has been amazing
    And his movement off the ball has leveled up too
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:10
    Re: #4
    Seko really was awful before… glad he's grown
    Tanaka Ao used to constantly clean up Seko's messes and took the blame for it, poor guy

    And on top of that, the commentator would mix up names during Seko's blunders and say 'Tanaka' instead, pinning the blame on him unfairly — brutal
    99AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:08
    Re: #4
    It wasn't so much Tanimura — it was Suzuki Yuito missing shot after shot that was the problem

    Tanaka Ao threads an amazing through ball → Tanimura → Suzuki Yuito, and it just wouldn't go in — painful to watch

    https://x.com/98sep10/status/2105637314286477595
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:38
    A samurai who can stand up to South American physicality
    A samurai in looks too
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:39
    Doesn't get injured, always ready to go
    That's huge
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:40
    Re: #6
    Oh, you mean Tobias?
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:40
    It's the coach's job to pick the players
    But it's always the same guys
    Call up someone new for once lol
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:42
    Come to think of it, Ito Hiroki and Suzuki Ayane were the same way early on.
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:42
    Itakura's probably past his peak at this point. Tomiyasu's a question mark depending on his condition.
    In that case, better to develop Seko and Junnosuke instead.
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:42
    Everyone's praising him, but he's literally yanking on shirts.
    The opponent's jersey was torn.
    You guys would be screaming bloody murder if a Korean player did that, but you conveniently look the other way when it's a Japanese player
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:42
    Feels like he turned a corner after helping his club Le Havre survive in Ligue 1 right before the World Cup kicked off
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:43
    Tomiyasu's basically in 'Wakabayashi-kun' territory now (slang for someone who's constantly injured), so having a guy who doesn't break down is genuinely reassuring
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:44
    Full 90 → started, subbed at 71 → full 90 again
    Playing him like that with only 3 days then 2 days rest between games is rough, no?
    Glad he didn't get injured
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:47
    I'd only ever seen him at the World Cup, but he was pinging line-breaking passes from the back — a genuinely good player
    Hope he keeps it up
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:57
    Re: #20
    Tanaka Ao has great overall vision and picks up on the small details
    He constantly fills the space the opponent wants to exploit, snuffing out their attacks before they start
    He also moves to make things easier for teammates and creates space with his runs to open up our attack

    Last match too, Toda was explaining on the broadcast how Tanaka Ao created space and threaded a vertical pass that led to a goal
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 07:58
    Re: #24
    But he didn't score though?
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:01
    Re: #26
    I said the goal was from the last match
    This match too, Suzuki Yuito kept missing shots, but Tanaka Ao was creating chance after chance
    If Ueda had been on from the first half it would've been a goal
    35AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:07
    Re: #28
    Why did Tanaka suddenly stop shooting?
    That's what's bugging me
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:09
    Zion, Tanaka Ao, Seko —
    every time you guys pile on and rip a player apart, they suddenly level up
    43AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:15
    Re: #37
    Is it because they got bashed online,
    or because they weren't satisfied with how they were used at the World Cup —
    which one do you think is actually what drives a player to grow?
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:13
    Re: #35
    Tanaka Ao shoots for his club and scores in almost every game, so there's gotta be a reason he's stopped shooting entirely for the national team

    Back when he was on a scoring streak for Japan too, Moriyasu dropped him for the Asian Cup
    Since then he's clearly been holding back on shooting and instead fully committed to defense, chance creation, and being the unsung glue guy who organizes the team
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:15
    Re: #41
    Tanaka Ao is one of the best finishers on the national team, yet
    some weird thing with Moriyasu keeps forcing him to hold back
    It's genuinely sad seeing his best quality get suppressed like that

    You can tell just watching the Premier League — he's clearly a better finisher than Maeda or Kamada
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:15
    The 'we don't need Tomiyasu' takes are about to pick up speed
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:18
    Re: #42
    Not that he's not needed, but if you can't count on him to be available, it gets tough
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:28
    Sorry for saying stuff like 'don't even bring this guy to the World Cup' and trashing him so hard
    I honestly thought he was garbage, to put it mildly
    59AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:29
    Re: #57
    Can't blame you, he really was awful before
    69AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:41
    Zion, Tanaka, Seko —
    guess pros can spot the raw talent underneath even when it's rough
    like, 'once he gets used to matches and his head's right, he'll be fine'
    78AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:50
    Re: #69
    Tanaka Ao scored against Australia right after joining the senior national team and won the game as the hero, so he delivered results immediately
    Before he joined, the national team was on the brink, losing games — he really was a savior
    80AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:51
    Re: #78
    Which cap was that goal, though?
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:54
    Re: #80
    Don't lie, that was Tanaka Ao's first senior cap goal
    Before that he'd only played in the E-1 Championship
    88AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:57
    Re: #83
    The E-1 Championship counts as official A-match caps, newbie
    So you're saying he couldn't even score against weaker teams like China in E-1?

    "World Cup qualifier debut MF Tanaka Ao scores the opener! First goal in his 3rd international A-match"
    https://www.nikkansports.com/m/soccer/japan/photonews/photonews_nsInc_202110120000879-0.html
    94AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:04
    That was meant for Re: #83
    82AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:52
    Tanaka's the undisputed biggest culprit here (5ch slang: 'war criminal,' meaning the player most to blame for the loss)

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2071673269783318528/vid/avc1/1056×636/F9QD2K44obwDTwWt.mp4
    100AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:08
    Re: #82
    This guy needs to be banned from the national team
    86AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:55
    Just because he's playing well doesn't mean you should run him into the ground
    90AnonymousOct 2, 2026 08:57
    Re: #86
    Don't make me laugh, this isn't even close to overuse
    102AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:09
    Re: #90
    So far he's played in all 3 matches, every single one
    98AnonymousOct 2, 2026 09:07
    Matsuki became the 40th player in history to score a wonder goal on his national team debut
    Tanaka did it in his 3rd cap

    That's the official record
    Must sting for you Tanaka stans defending the worst-rated scapegoat

    Background and points of discussion

    Before the North/Central America World Cup, Ayumu Seko was a defender who faced harsh criticism on social media, and posters in the thread repeatedly note that “he used to be truly awful.” As detailed in the article, he turned things around after helping his club Le Havre survive in Ligue 1 and gaining World Cup experience, to the point where manager Moriyasu now praises his defensive intensity and speed of judgment — a shift that also comes against the backdrop of expanded playing time due to injuries to key defenders Koki Itakura and Takehiro Tomiyasu. In the latter half of the thread, discussion shifted to midfielder Ao Tanaka, who similarly rose to prominence after past criticism, with opinions split over his national-team goal tally and how he’s being used. Posts disagreed on the timing of Tanaka’s first national-team goal, but a linked 2021 Nikkan Sports article confirms it was “the opening goal in his third A-match.”

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] Ayumu Seko grows rapidly through World Cup experience — praise from manager Moriyasu, Ritsu Doan, Takefusa Kubo, and others“.