Category: Tech

  • 5chers Get Hooked on Making AI Art Characters — “The Fingers Look Off, Let Me Post a Different One… Wait, That’s a Dude”

    Season 2 of the popular “Mr. AI Art” thread on 5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board has kicked off. Participants are cranking out characters with image-generating AI and posting them one after another, riffing on telltale AI quirks like oddly rendered fingers along the way.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:10
    Season 2, let's go!
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:17
    Kinda early to start a new thread, no?
    Anyway, that lightning outside is wild!

    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:17
    Barkeep! Gimme it in a pint glass!
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:48
    https://tadaup.jp/8uOC2D1j.webp
    https://tadaup.jp/8VfBvxoI.webp
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:03
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:12
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:12
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:18
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:22
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:32
    Joke pic
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:42
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:12
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:14
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:37
    Joke pic

    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:38
    Sorry for borrowing everyone's characters since yesterday m(__)m (a bowing-apology emoticon)



    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:15
    (…my summer homework still isn't done…)
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:19
    https://tadaup.jp/8gBVAdW6.png

    Rabbit
    95AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:33
    Re: #91
    Found a rabbit-shaped bottle in the background
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:03
    https://tadaup.jp/8PSbvQD1.png
    Vaped some Seven Stars (a cigarette brand) flavor on my C-Vapor and nearly gagged
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:32
    135AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:02
    Re: #127
    (︈◕ ͜ ͜ ◕)︈ I have no idea what that means
    134AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:54
    This one's set up as an otoko no ko (a boy who looks like a girl), so…
    how about this


    138AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:15
    The fingers look off, let me post a different one
    But it's a dude

    169AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:24
    Didn't specify a character, but once you cram in all your favorite quirks they all end up looking the same, huh

    Background and Key Points

    This isn’t much of a debate thread — it’s mostly a rapid-fire posting gallery — so the commentary should lean on background rather than pretend there was a real split.

    5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board (通称”なんJVIP” or just “VIP”) is one of the oldest and most freewheeling boards on Japan’s largest anonymous forum network, known for absurdist humor threads that run for hundreds of posts and often spin into numbered “seasons” once a format catches on. The “Mr. AI Art” (AI絵師さん) thread format follows that pattern: someone opens a thread, generators start dumping images made with tools like Stable Diffusion or NovelAI, and the running joke is spotting the AI’s tells — warped hands, extra fingers, melted background objects — before someone posts a fix that has a new, unrelated flaw.

    There isn’t really a dispute to summarize here; the posts are a loose stream of images and one-line captions rather than an argument. The closest thing to a turn is post >>134’s setup of an otoko no ko (a male character drawn in a feminine/moe style, a well-established anime-fan aesthetic distinct from simple crossdressing) followed by >>138’s admission that a “fixed” repost of a girl character turned out to be male — a punchline about AI models conflating stylistic femininity with gender that recurs in Japanese AI-art circles specifically because so much anime-style training data draws bishōnen and moe-girl characters with nearly identical facial proportions.

    What outside readers may miss is scale: threads like this can run into dozens of “seasons” over months, and the appeal isn’t polished output so much as communal spectacle — mocking the tool’s failures together is the actual social activity, not the art itself.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread “Mr. AI Art, Season 2 Has Begun — You Can Even Make Cute Girls.”

  • KEY TO LIT’s Soya Inogari Draws Mixed Reactions After Flashing ¥100,000 Senpai Debut Gift on Pokapoka

    On the August 20 broadcast of Fuji TV’s “Pokapoka,” all five members of KEY TO LIT appeared to announce their CD debut, and during the segment Soya Inogari showed off, right there on air, the ¥100,000 “debut congratulatory gift” he’d received from a senior idol. On 5channel, opinions split over whether this was appropriate, with the discussion expanding into the senpai-kohai culture carried over from the former Johnny’s era and comparisons with other groups.

    2026.08.21 16:50

    The idol group KEY TO LIT (nicknamed “Kiteretsu”) had its CD debut confirmed on August 17. On the 20th, all members appeared on the daytime variety show “Pokapoka” (Fuji TV).

    Since April 2026, KEY TO LIT members have been appearing on the show on a rotating weekly basis every Thursday. That day, Daiko Sasaki was on from the top of the show. In the back half, Reia Nakamura, Mizuki Inoue, Soya Inogari, and Taisho Iwasaki joined in, and all the members together announced their debut. Still riding high on the excitement, Inogari launched into an anecdote — and then did something surprising.

    Source: smart-flash.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:20
    Good for him, nari~
    A ¥100,000 debut gift, nari~ ("nari" is a playful speech tic here, riffing on the group's nickname "Kiteretsu")
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:22
    Johnny's may have technically disbanded, but it feels like it's let in a bunch of untrained amateurs who never got this kind of home training.
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:31
    Re: #4
    I mean, isn't this exactly the Johnny's tradition, though?
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:22
    Just take that straight to the Kumamoto relief fund or NTV's 24-Hour Television charity drive already.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:25
    There's warmth inside Kiteretsu, nari
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:36
    Re: #12
    I'll treat you to a croquette, nari
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:26
    The tackiness of Johnny's so-called high-class brand image.
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:26
    Re: #1
    It's the OTHER idol agencies that run those pay-to-play "bonus events" (tokuten-kai) with physical contact and heavy spending.

    Johnny's, as a rule, doesn't do "bonus events" at all, and even when they hold "fan meetings," those center on stage performances and talk segments.

    Last year, when timelesz held a meet-and-greet involving conversation and handshakes, a lot of Johnny's fans actually pushed back — saying things like "that's too close to the fans," "it's like an underground idol act," and "it damages the Johnny's brand." There was real resistance to moving away from the traditional Johnny's approach.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:28
    Back in the day, Takahiro Azuma used to do this obnoxious rich-guy bit where he'd go "man, it's hot~" and then casually pull a wad of ¥10,000 bills from his pocket to wipe the sweat off his forehead. Isn't this the same kind of thing?
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:47
    Re: #18
    I heard years later that back when he actually had no money, every time he did that bit he'd be secretly terrified of dropping one of the ¥10,000 bills — hearing that story made me start liking Azumax.
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:28
    Inogari's performance in the Kadai-Chidori spy segment was borderline broadcast-accident bad — even on a variety show, Daigo and Hanamaru couldn't quite hide their annoyed faces.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:28
    Re: #1
    Some Number_i fans who also stan M!LK are spreading a false rumor that "Johnny's has started contact events where you have to stack up ¥8,000 photo books, and since it's a lottery, you won't get to meet them unless you buy multiple."

    "Hand-over events" held on a book or photo book's release date are just standard events, not exclusive to idols, and they're not what's called a "contact event" — handshakes, autographs, and photo/video recording are all prohibited. Lotteries are used the same way for other entertainers, like actors, too.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:28
    Re: #1
    The same Number_i-fans-who-also-stan-M!LK crowd is spreading the lie that "Aぇ! group is running a bonus scheme where you get trading cards if you buy a set of 100 CDs!"

    But that's actually a wholesale package — "100 CDs + 100 sets of 3 trading card types" — meant for retailers, not individual fans. Even a single regular-edition CD comes with all 3 trading card types, so no individual fan needs 300 of the same card.
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:29
    Do what Snow Man's Mukai did and turn it into a pendant to keep it safe forever.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV29MdxU8AAZWXC.jpg
    85AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:09
    Re: #22
    He was ridiculously cute as a kid lol
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:20
    Re: #22
    Yeah, that old geezer must've found this irresistible lol
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:30
    I was cracking up watching this, but I guess that's not allowed. What a hassle.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:33
    Re: #24
    Good for you — guess that means you share this guy's sense of humor.
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:36
    Playing games with beef and doing it on a lunchtime show — that's just not appropriate.
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:36
    Re: #27
    Really glad I don't share the mentality of people who pick fights just to start a flame war and enjoy it.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:41
    Re: #34
    The original headline is actually: "KEY TO LIT's Soya Inogari shows off ¥100,000 'debut congratulatory gift' from a senpai on Pokapoka… the MC smooths it over, but some fans are on edge."

    The real problem is that whoever wrote Re: #1 tacked on "viewers criticize the stunt as excessive" — and everyone taking the bait is just being dumb.
    107AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:01
    He's actually Toshio Shirai's grandson, you know.
    119AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:26
    Re: #107
    Soya Inogari's grandfather is Toshio Shirai, a legendary menswear tailor and buyer who spent decades on the floor of Shinanoya, the long-established men's shop in Honmoku, Yokohama. He's also worked as a suit tailor, the president of a kimono company, and the president of a construction company — and from a young age, Inogari was strictly taught to "carry yourself with class."

    Well, so much for that…
    113AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:19
    Ah, KEY TO LIT — the group ACEes fans have made their sworn enemy. Wouldn't have been an issue if they'd just debuted at the same time. Then again, even groups that DID debut together, like Snow Man and SixTONES, can end up with fanbases that despise each other.
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 19:47
    Re: #113
    Okura's carrying a lot on his shoulders too… Setting aside a charisma like Johnny Kitagawa, being the one producing the Jr. groups and taking all the criticism head-on is an incredibly tough position to be in.
    138AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:02
    However you look at it, the former Johnny's agency is clearly struggling right now.
    139AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:03
    Re: #138
    They're talking about you. You're the one who's out of place here.

    Background and Key Points

    STARTO Entertainment is the agency that succeeded Johnny & Associates after its 2023 dissolution over the founder’s sexual-abuse scandal; it still governs the boy-band ecosystem KEY TO LIT belongs to. Central to that culture is senpai-kohai (senior-junior) etiquette, where established idols mentor and materially support debuting juniors — cash “congratulatory gifts” on a debut day are a recognized, if usually private, gesture. KEY TO LIT’s debut was announced live on Fuji TV’s “Pokapoka,” a lunchtime variety slot the group has rotated through weekly since April 2026, giving the on-air reveal of a ¥100,000 gift far more visibility than such gestures normally get.

    The thread didn’t really split over whether senpai gift-giving is legitimate — multiple posters defended it as standard Johnny’s/STARTO tradition — but over whether displaying it on broadcast television, in a comedic bit, was tacky given the agency’s traditionally reserved, no-handshake, no-physical-contact brand image. A second, sharper split emerged over the framing itself: posters pointed out the original source article’s headline was more measured (“MC smooths it over, some fans on edge”) and accused whoever wrote the board’s summary of exaggerating backlash that wasn’t really there.

    What outside readers likely miss is that STARTO deliberately avoids the paid “bonus event” (tokuten-kai) model — handshakes, photos, tiered purchase incentives — that most other Japanese idol agencies run; several posts here were specifically rebutting rumors, seemingly spread by rival fandoms, that STARTO had adopted those practices. Inogari’s family background as grandson of a noted Yokohama tailor, raised to “carry yourself with class,” is the irony underlying the pile-on, not something casual readers would otherwise know.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Geisports Express+) thread “[STARTO] KEY TO LIT (Kiteretsu) Soya Inogari shows off ¥100,000 “debut congratulatory gift” from a senpai on Pokapoka… viewers criticize the stunt as excessive [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.

  • METI Requests ¥7.7 Trillion for FY2027 Budget, Prioritizing AI and Semiconductors

    The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) will request ¥7.7 trillion across its general and special accounts in its budget request for fiscal year 2027, targeting growth areas like AI, semiconductors, and robotics. The figure is roughly 2.5 times last year’s initial budget, and on 5ch, criticism that the money will just be “skimmed off by middlemen” and that the move is “15 years too late” mixed with comments pointing out the gap in investment scale compared to other countries.

    METI’s draft budget request for fiscal year 2027 has come to light. It will seek a combined ¥7.7 trillion between its general and special accounts, advancing priority policies in growth fields such as AI, semiconductors, and robotics, as well as strengthening the supply capacity of naphtha (crude gasoline).

    The requested amount is about 2.5 times the size of the FY2026 initial budget (¥3.0693 trillion), and exceeds the combined total of that budget plus the FY2025 supplementary budget (¥2.2009 trillion) by roughly ¥2.5 trillion. In addition, the ministry is also making “item requests” that don’t specify a concrete figure. To concentrate investment in growth fields, the special “Strong and Prosperous Japan Investment Framework,” which places no ceiling on requests from individual ministries, accounts for about ¥4.5 trillion — more than half of the total.

    Within the investment framework, about ¥1.4 trillion is being requested for AI, semiconductor, and robotics-related projects. This will fund the development of infrastructure for “physical AI” — AI that controls robots — as well as programs to support the adoption of AI-powered robots.

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:41
    Put the money toward blue-collar workers — they're the ones we'll actually need.
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    Re: #2
    Blue-collar jobs are getting the mass layoff rush.
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:42
    Just invest in unmanned systems already.
    Both military and civilian sectors are going to need autonomous/unmanned tech going forward.
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    METI, quit pretending to work already (lol). They'll just hand out loans to their buddy companies again, produce zero results, and waste taxpayer money — like always, right?
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:43
    AI's a lost cause for Japan at this point.
    The US and China are just too strong.
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:44
    90% of it gets skimmed off by middlemen and it all ends with nothing to show for it.
    That's Japan for you.
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    I want to ask someone who really knows this stuff — if you compare it to the original Mobile Suit Gundam, what point in the story are we at???
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    Re: #1
    So it got exposed as just middlemen sucking up subsidies, and they simply renamed it?


    The shock of "zero subsidies for anime/game creators" — is this the distortion at the heart of the Cool Japan strategy? #ExpertTopic
    Article by: Tane Kiyoshi
    Anime writer / game writer
    Mon, March 23, 2026, 7:01 AM
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/c821d18b24f06849346c13ed3da7fdaec49a69e5

    Of the Cool Japan money, creators got ¥0.
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:45
    So they could drop Cool Japan without a fight because now it's a free-for-all for skimming.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:46
    These guys are probably hoarding up memory chips too, right?
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    "Invest in semiconductors! Invest in AI!" — what are they, kids?
    Which semiconductors are you even investing in?
    Focus on agricultural robots instead — that's a field desperate for labor.
    And don't you dare touch military stuff — Japan's nowhere near that level right now.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    It's 15 years too late, but better late than never, I guess.
    The US, South Korea, and China are where they are now because they poured absurd amounts of money in.
    Japan and Europe left it to the private sector and said "you handle it," which is why they're weak in this field.
    73AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:23
    Re: #18
    The AI drones Rakuten imports are made in Germany.
    Germany even has a software company with a market cap bigger than Toyota's — it's only Japan that doesn't.
    Granted, Germany won't step in even if its banks are in trouble.
    China, meanwhile, has announced a new five-year plan to gut humanities departments and go all-in on STEM.
    Japan can't pull off that kind of brute-force move, so the gap just keeps widening.
    168AnonymousAug 21, 2026 12:17
    Re: #18
    The US government only started investing in AI recently too.
    They're just jumping on the winning horse of an industry the private sector already made successful — it's not like government support is what made it succeed.
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:47
    Re: #9
    The layoff rush is a white-collar thing — wages on the front lines/shop floor are about to go up.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:49
    Looks like it's heading for a repeat of the Cool Japan fiasco. METI's policies are all just theater — making it look like they're doing something.
    Everyone piles on the Finance Ministry, but METI is really the ministry that symbolizes everything wrong with Japan right now.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:51
    They talk about investing in AI, but AI doesn't create jobs.
    All it does is cut jobs and kill off industries.
    88AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:40
    Re: #25
    We're short on labor right now, so it's necessary, isn't it?
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:52
    This looks like a field where Japan's just playing catch-up. Rather than trying to keep pace, it seems like the only way to win is to let the leaders run ahead and then overtake them with a different strategy.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:07
    I'd like them to cut social security spending at the same time.
    48AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:08
    They've failed at this over and over — just stop letting bureaucrats invest and cut taxes instead.
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:26
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:36
    If it's between this and tax cuts, spending it this way is better.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:46
    Re: #83
    If you're going to cut taxes, then government investment should be scaled back, right?
    89AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:41
    The surprise at this dinner was that Apple's Tim Cook — Japan's longtime partner — was nowhere to be seen, and instead Google's CEO was there. What's more, he was seated right next to PM Takaichi. It's safe to assume some major deal is in the works between Japan and Google.
    96AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:46
    Re: #89
    Apple treats Japan as a major market, and a lot of its parts and materials suppliers are Japanese companies, so the least they could do is build a manufacturing plant in Japan.
    Just raking in profits here while investing it all in the US and other countries is way out of line.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:07
    IBM Albany's ecosystem
    https://news.mynavi.jp/techplus/article/20240131-2873604/images/001.jpg

    imec Leuven's ecosystem
    122AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:14
    Intel Oregon's ecosystem
    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/66d7411326ba25266a3bb86a/2e58ef57-12d2-4cff-9926-a54b8c951ecc/Screenshot+2024-10-29+at+3.31.14%E2%80%AFPM.png
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:15
    Basically the goal is to build Japan's own TSMC, but it'll start with trial mass production runs next year just to see if it can even operate properly.
    Then it'll take several more years of accumulating yield-rate know-how and such to win customers' trust.
    Even once they catch up to the cutting edge, they'll have to keep competing, so they really do need to pour in money like water.
    126AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:16
    Re: #124
    Does Japan even have that kind of financial stamina left?
    147AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:51
    SoftBank alone has invested something like ¥10 trillion in OpenAI cumulatively.
    149AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:58
    Re: #147
    It's ¥100 trillion.
    150AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:59
    US Under Secretary of Defense Colby: "Asia doesn't need a hegemon" — speech in Manila, Philippines, seen as a check on China

    During the Q&A after his speech, Colby cited Germany's major increase in defense spending as an example when discussing other countries' defense budgets, and argued that Japan "should follow suit" to reach the 3.5% of GDP defense spending level the US is asking of its allies. (Kyodo)

    https://www.sankei.com/article/20260810-MIDVJTCEZNIANFGS7WP47PU6KU/

    Background and Key Points

    METI (the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) is the postwar successor to MITI, Japan’s traditional industrial-policy ministry, and every summer each ministry submits a “gaisan yōkyū” (budget request) to the Finance Ministry ahead of the fiscal year starting the following April — a wish list, not an enacted budget. That distinction matters here: the ¥7.7 trillion figure, and the ¥1.4 trillion earmarked for AI, semiconductors, and robotics, will still be cut down during the Finance Ministry’s year-end screening, and some line items are “item requests” with no figure attached yet, a common technique for leaving room to negotiate later. The comparison baseline cited — Japan’s actual FY2026 initial budget of about ¥3.07 trillion — is itself much smaller than the request, underscoring how aspirational these numbers are before December’s compromise.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t over whether AI/semiconductors deserve money, but over mechanism versus scale: one camp assumes any new fund just repeats the Cool Japan pattern — money routed through intermediaries with little reaching actual creators or workers — while another camp argues Japan’s underlying problem is that it never matched the raw scale of US, Korean, and Chinese state investment, so even a flawed program beats continued underinvestment.

    What’s easy to miss is that this ¥7.7 trillion request is a starting bid in an annual bureaucratic ritual, not a signal that disbursement, oversight, or anti-skimming safeguards have been redesigned since Cool Japan’s well-documented governance failures — the posters debate trust in the money’s use without addressing whether METI’s distribution mechanism has actually changed at all.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Budget Request] METI to invest ¥7.7 trillion in growth fields like AI and semiconductors.”

  • 16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round — Why Flat Earth Belief Persists

    An article reporting that 16% of US adults don’t agree the Earth is round drew a wave of responses on 5ch’s Science News+ board. While some pointed to religion or poverty as underlying factors, the thread evolved into a debate over ways to verify the Earth’s roundness for yourself — from watching ships vanish over the horizon to laser experiments.

    16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round… The Background Behind Why the Crackpot “Flat Earth” Theory Persists

    Kazushi Matsumura, Associate Professor, Graduate School of Human Sciences, Osaka University

    That the Earth is round seems like an unquestionable fact of common sense.

    Source: president.jp / Original article here

    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 03:02
    That number's pretty high.
    Guess it just shows how unequal the society is, with a fixed chunk of people at the extremes.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 05:26
    Re: #16
    It's about religion, not because they're poor.
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 06:28
    Too much Minecraft, probably.
    That game's world really is basically flat-earth central.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:56
    Re: #26
    Play Animal Crossing and you'll believe it's a sphere.
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:38
    Re: #26
    Try climbing up to about height 128 in Minecraft.
    The world's super round.
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 06:57
    It's not just Earth — the whole universe is flat, two-dimensional.
    You're all just holograms.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:04
    Before we even get to whether the US thinks the Earth is round
    Something like 'don't just feed me𓃠 🐙octopus, eat 🦑squid too' and '🦇🦇bats, not 🦟mosquitoes'
    Don't really get it
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:05
    Re: #30
    Duh-earf iz rownd (deliberately garbled, mocking spelling — 地球/'Earth' swapped for a pun meaning 'idiot-level')
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:15
    Prepare two boards, each with a hole at the same height.
    Set them up at points A and B, 10km apart.
    Fire a laser through the hole in the board at point A.
    Since light travels in a straight line, if flat-earth theory were true, the laser from point A should pass through the hole in the board at point B.
    But in reality, the laser never passes through the hole at point B — it hits a spot above the hole, offset upward.
    In other words, this proves the Earth isn't flat, it's a sphere.

    Do this experiment and you'll get it in seconds.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:28
    Re: #36
    > the laser hits a spot above the hole, offset upward

    If you space them 10km apart, the laser won't even hit unless the boards are ridiculously huge.
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:35
    Re: #36
    You don't even need a laser — just measure the shadow length of identical sticks at distant points at the same time.
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:05
    Isn't it possible some people answered 'I don't believe it's a sphere' because technically it's an oblate spheroid, not a perfect sphere?
    45AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:08
    Re: #44
    Must be rough, but hang in there and keep on living… sheesh.
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:55
    Re: #44
    > oblate spheroid

    To be even more precise, it's shaped more like a pear.
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:17
    This whole world is nothing but data in some simulation game someone's playing — we call the player 'God.'
    47AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:18
    Re: #46
    It's already too late for you…
    49AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:23
    Re: #47
    You can't deny it, right? Both you and I are beings controlled by a game system — just characters inside some advanced SimCity.
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:27
    Re: #49
    Your parents must be going through hell…
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:59
    Re: #49
    Can't confirm it either.
    Things you can neither confirm nor deny are basically just delusion.
    Religion included.
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:43
    You can treat it as flat for practical purposes.
    Keep walking straight and you'll end up back where you started.
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:51
    A flat Earth doesn't add up logically in all sorts of ways — how do these people convince themselves it does?
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:53
    Re: #62
    Probably just never leaving their village.
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:11
    Got called 'Hey, man!' in America — that's not flat, right? (pun: 'hey man' sounds like heimen, 平面, meaning 'flat plane')
    70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:22
    Are there actually a lot of people who've confirmed the Earth is round by themselves?
    Even the land survey map of my own property doesn't show any elevation difference proving the Earth is a sphere.
    71AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #70
    Go to the coast and watch a ship approach!
    72AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:27
    Re: #70
    I was born in a coastal town, so I've seen ships sink below the horizon plenty of times since I was a kid.
    75AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:41
    Re: #72
    Maybe try drawing a perspective diagram.
    There's a thing called a vanishing point.
    The logic should be that it becomes a point on the horizon.
    In other words, even when drawing that ship, you never factor in any number for the Earth being round.
    Even a 10m object shrinks to a point and eventually disappears.
    But that's still just it vanishing on flat ground's horizon, nothing more.
    82AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:00
    Huh?
    Can't give a reason?

    This kind of thing has got to be partly about your attitude toward knowledge.
    Personally, I consider anything I can't confirm myself as objective fact to be pure subjectivity.
    I've never confirmed with my own power, without special equipment, that the Earth is round.
    So I can't bring myself to criticize people who think it's flat.
    87AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #82
    'I only believe what I've confirmed myself' basically means you can't learn from anyone else's knowledge.
    At the end of the day that's just dressing up an excuse to believe misinformation.
    115AnonymousAug 21, 2026 13:19
    Re: #82
    You can tell it's a sphere from watching ships vanish over the horizon, or from the round shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse, right?
    If that's how you think, didn't you ever look into it as a kid?
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:29
    Re: #87
    That's just how I see things, can't help it.
    I make a point of treating only what I can confirm myself as objective fact.
    That doesn't really cause me any problems.
    I just don't casually believe things I can't verify with my own hands.

    For what it's worth, I've studied science, so I'm good at drawing accurate diagrams.
    Not illustrations — diagrams.
    So I have more ability than the average person to read and represent objects scientifically.
    But I've never once actually seen the numbers that show the Earth is round.
    98AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:40
    They used to say there's no water on the moon's surface.
    Apparently that's now considered wrong.
    Turns out there's ice, not water, they say.
    But since I can't confirm it myself, I can't judge which is correct.
    124AnonymousAug 21, 2026 14:00
    You're all mocking people who believe in flat earth, aren't you.
    Sure, people who blindly believe what others say without scientific verification are fools.
    But have you all actually verified with your own experiments that the Earth is a sphere?
    Or are you just believing what other people tell you?
    Huh, doesn't that make you no different from the fools you're mocking!

    Here's an experiment anyone can use to verify the Earth is round.
    If it's a sphere, then the water's surface is curved too, not flat.
    So look across a body of water more than 5km wide and see if you can spot the far shore.
    If it's curved, you shouldn't be able to see the low shoreline — only the tops of tall buildings.
    5km is the distance at which, given Earth's diameter, the far side disappears below the sea surface.

    Do this and you too are a proper scientist.
    By the way, here's a photo from when I actually ran the experiment.
    https://media.wired.jp/photos/65ffee09c971dd1c60869ff1/master/w_1600,c_limit/science-pontchartrain-(1).jpg

    Background and Key Points

    The number the article cites echoes a genre of English-language polling from the past decade — YouGov-style surveys that ask Americans whether they’ve “always believed,” “used to believe but now doubt,” or “never believed” the Earth is round, with the flat-Earth-adjacent minority landing somewhere around one in six. That movement itself is not new: it traces to the 19th-century “Zetetic” society founded by Samuel Rowbotham, and was revived in the 2010s largely through YouTube and podcast conspiracy culture, often overlapping with distrust of NASA, biblical literalism, and general institutional skepticism — the “religion, not poverty” framing raised early in the thread is closer to the actual research literature than the “unequal society” theory it was responding to.

    What the thread actually divided over wasn’t belief versus disbelief in a round Earth — nobody on 5ch endorsed flat-Earth theory outright — but a meta-question: what counts as legitimate proof, and who gets to claim they’ve “verified” anything themselves. Posters proposing horizon, laser, and shadow experiments were met not by flat-Earth pushback but by a self-described empiricist arguing that trusting textbook diagrams is itself just secondhand belief, no different in kind from religious faith. That argument, and the pushback that refusing all secondhand knowledge makes learning from anyone impossible, is the real fault line here.

    The thing likely to be missed by readers unfamiliar with the source: a “don’t fully agree the Earth is round” response in polling isn’t the same as “believes the Earth is flat” — it usually captures agnosticism or reflexive contrarianism toward a question people rarely think about, not a coherent competing cosmology.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Pseudoscience] 16% of US Adults Don’t Agree the Earth Is Round… The Background Behind Why the Crackpot “Flat Earth” Theory Persists”.

  • Shared Medical Records with AI Developers Without Consent? Petition Against Privacy Law Loophole Tops 30,000 Signatures

    Under a special provision of Japan’s revised Personal Information Protection Act, sensitive data such as medical history can now be shared without the individual’s consent, provided the purpose is AI development or statistical research. In response, an online petition calling for operational safeguards has gathered more than 30,000 signatures.

    On 5channel, opinions split over whether data is really being handed over complete with names and addresses, and just how thoroughly it’s actually anonymized. Posts citing Diet testimony — in which Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara and Minister Matsumoto reportedly said that stripping out personally identifiable information is “difficult in practice” — fueled growing unease about what this law change really means on the ground.

    “My information, shared without my knowledge…” The woman behind the petition calling for “operational safeguards” on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision: Tokyo Shimbun Digital

    August 18, 2026, 06:00 — Article for paid subscribers only

    An online petition calling for operational safeguards on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision — which allows sensitive information such as medical history to be shared without the individual’s consent for the purposes of AI development or statistical research — has gathered more than 30,000 signatures.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:04
    Apps like LINE have been leaking all kinds of our data for ages, why act shocked now?
    If something's free, there's a reason.
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #8
    Unlike your average, not-too-careful LINE user, the people speaking up this time — folks who go to the hospital a lot — might just be the type who sweats the details.
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:09
    It's not like anyone can actually be identified from it though, right?
    Is that ambiguity itself the thing people are pushing back against?
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:18
    Re: #15
    No, it's handed over complete with address and name attached.
    Akira Nagatsuma raised this in the Diet, and Kihara admitted that removing that info isn't technically feasible.
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:10
    No, it's fine since personally identifiable info gets stripped out first.
    Big-data analysis might surface side effects that clinical trials never caught — like "people who take this drug tend to get this reaction."
    23AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:12
    Re: #18
    I saw in the news that names get handed over in the data as-is, unredacted.
    36AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #18
    You really think that rule actually gets followed?
    Way too naive.
    48AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:19
    Re: #18
    Even if it's handed over in a state that's just barely non-identifiable, it can still be pieced together like a jigsaw puzzle with data from past leaks to reconstruct the full picture.
    And it's the people with the least "value" who are easiest to exploit for crime.
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:13
    More than that —
    isn't it terrifying that raw personal data of every kind ends up piled up at specific companies?
    Nobody's watching what they actually do with it internally lol
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #26
    Seriously, this.
    There are already plenty of sketchy companies as it is.
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:16
    Re: #26
    Isn't it fine as long as it's not illegal?
    34AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #23
    Is that actually true?
    Standard practice is to "sanitize" (strip out personally identifiable info) before turning data into big data.
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:20
    Re: #34
    Also, the information handed over isn't the final "statistical data" itself — at the stage where raw data moves from the source to the recipient, it may still contain names and addresses. Processing it into a non-identifiable form only happens at the final output stage.

    And yet vetting of the recipient organizations is lax, basically running on the honor system.
    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:25
    Re: #34
    In Diet questioning, Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara said it's not feasible to strip out personally identifiable info like address and name.
    90AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:27
    What actual harm comes from handing over someone's hospital visit history?
    95AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:28
    Re: #90
    Well, if you're a woman, having a gynecological condition exposed would be pretty embarrassing.
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:30
    Re: #90
    Insurance could shift away from uniform premiums based on the law of large numbers
    toward extreme risk-segmentation at the individual level.

    AI could also end up taking over the role background-check agencies play in employment and marriage discrimination.
    104AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:30
    Re: #92
    No, I don't think that's really the main purpose — there's no real use value in the names themselves.
    The point of big data is analyzing relationships/correlations,
    so if names are used at all it's probably just to avoid duplicate entries. They should just swap it for some other identifier so individuals can't be identified.
    112AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:31
    Re: #104
    Real names aren't necessary for big data.
    So the fact that they stubbornly refuse to strip real names out means that's exactly where the real purpose lies.
    126AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:34
    Re: #112
    What exactly do you mean by "that"? What kind of personal-data use are you imagining?
    Big data's main purpose is trend analysis —
    like "taking this drug causes this side effect,"
    or whether there's regional variation in disease based on address.
    Names are probably just there to avoid double-counting duplicate entries, so a number or code would work just as well.
    130AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:35
    Re: #126
    The standing principle up to now has been "remove real names."
    This time it's a special exception making "real names OK."

    Do you not get that basic premise?
    146AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:37
    Re: #126
    According to Minister Matsumoto,
    removing names isn't feasible because it would place too much burden on the hospitals holding the data.
    148AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:37
    Do people even realize this is supposed to be anonymized data?
    Wait, it is anonymous… right? Hard to believe, but still.
    172AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:41
    Re: #148
    It's all "without the individual's consent," so it's probably handed over completely raw, everything included.
    187AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:43
    Re: #148
    This law change literally says "you don't have to anonymize it."
    196AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:45
    Re: #148
    Re: #1
    It's right there in the article — it says the data is handed over with real names attached.

    Background and Key Points

    Sensitive personal information under Japan’s Personal Information Protection Act (個人情報保護法) has always required consent before sharing with third parties, with medical history classed as “special care-required” data given extra weight since Japan lacks the sector-specific health-privacy statute that, say, HIPAA provides in the US. The 2026 revision carves out an exception: hospitals and insurers can pass such records to AI developers or statistical researchers without asking the patient, on the premise the data will be anonymized first. The petition responds to testimony in the Diet — Japan’s national legislature — where Chief Cabinet Secretary Kihara and a minister named Matsumoto both said, under questioning from opposition lawmaker Akira Nagatsuma, that stripping identifying information before handoff is “difficult in practice.”

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t whether the law permits sharing without consent — that’s undisputed — but whether “anonymized” describes the data at the point it changes hands. Some posters insisted stripping happens before any transfer; others, citing the same Diet exchange, argued raw data with names and addresses moves first and de-identification, if it happens, comes only at the final statistical-output stage, with little vetting of who receives it in between.

    What the thread never engages with is why names get retained at all: several posters guessed it’s to prevent duplicate patient records across data sources, which is a real technical constraint in de-identification pipelines, not evidence of an ulterior motive. Readers should also know Japan’s health system is near-universal single-payer insurance, so this data pool implicates virtually the entire population, not an opt-in subset — raising the stakes of any anonymization gap well beyond what a Western reader used to fragmented, employer-based insurance records might assume.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Breaking News Plus) thread ““Don’t hand over our medical histories to AI developers without asking” — the woman behind the petition calling for “operational safeguards” on the revised Personal Information Protection Act’s special provision.”

  • Foldable Phones: Nearly Half Say “No Thanks” — 5ch: “Everyone’ll Be Using One in Two Years”

    A survey by MM Research Institute found that about half of people with no experience using a foldable smartphone clearly said they “don’t want to buy one.” On 5ch, users voiced practical concerns — the durability of the fold crease, the weight, whether the battery can even be replaced — while others predicted that “once it comes from iPhone, it’ll take off overnight.” Opinions were split.

    MM Research Institute, which conducts research and analysis in the IT sector, released survey results on awareness, usage, and purchase intent regarding foldable smartphones, shedding light on domestic attitudes toward the devices.

    Of the respondents, 544 had experience using a foldable smartphone, while 540 had none.

    Plenty of people say they’d “like to try buying one” — but what’s the number one reason among those who flatly say they won’t?

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:08
    No idea how long the fold crease actually lasts
    And the resale value's probably garbage too
    15AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:10
    Re: #3
    The screen protector film lasts six months, tops
    It's seriously done for after that
    10AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:09
    Say what you want, but in two years everyone'll be using one
    56AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:15
    Re: #10
    Most people only replace their phone once every 5 years
    No way that happens in just 2, lol
    83AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #10
    Then again, if nothing's fallen apart after 2 years, it might actually catch on
    12AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:10
    Is there even any benefit to using one for gaming?
    112AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:24
    Re: #12
    Like being able to check LINE (a chat app) or 5ch while you play, maybe
    20AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:11
    If you're using it at home, you don't need to fold it
    And if you're carrying it around daily, you don't need it folded either
    242AnonymousAug 18, 2026 12:00
    Re: #20
    Unfolded, it's way lighter than a regular tablet, so it's actually great for reading manga or watching videos while lying down
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    The fact that they're saying Apple can't even put out the iPhone 18 this year already tells you it's rough going
    43AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #26
    Apparently the Pro and Pro Max models are still coming
    49AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #26
    They probably just want people to buy the 18 Pro this fall
    Question is how many actually will
    123AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:25
    Re: #26
    Feature-wise it's basically been plateaued since the 14 anyway
    27AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    If it were around 180g, I'd consider it
    32AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:13
    Re: #27
    Even Samsung's models are over 200g, so that's probably a no-go
    79AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #27
    If it were razor-thin — under 9mm and up to 140g — I'd actually feel like buying one
    28AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:12
    Honestly I'd rather have user-replaceable batteries than folding.
    Thanks to this dumb, totally un-"smart" design, we're stuck needing these things called portable battery packs.
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:14
    Re: #28
    Not happening unless they drop the waterproofing-and-thinness arms race
    81AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #28
    Starting in February, EU regulations will require phones to have replaceable batteries
    92AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:20
    You guys were fine with flip phones going clack-clack, so why is it a problem for smartphones?
    97AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:22
    Re: #92
    Flip phones weren't touchscreens
    And there was no crease running through the display
    155AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:34
    Re: #92
    The selling points are pretty different, so comparing the two doesn't mean much. Sure, they both let you get a bigger screen, but flip phones folded the keypad and screen inward — a big plus for preventing accidental taps and screen damage. Foldable smartphones, on the other hand, still give you a usable phone-sized screen when folded, so the benefit is getting a phone and a tablet in one device. In exchange, you lose most of that accidental-input and damage protection.
    93AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:21
    Just make a 4-inch smartphone already, idiots
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:23
    Re: #93
    You won't even be able to tap the X to close ads anymore, lol
    111AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:24
    Re: #93
    Opening up to 4-inch size actually makes sense.

    I've got rheumatoid arthritis, so even 160g is too much for me — needs to be under 140g
    96AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:22
    I'd want one if I could check the time and see missed calls without unfolding it
    120AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:25
    Re: #96
    You'd need three panels for that, really
    202AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:48
    Isn't it just that the only ones out right now are Galaxy, so nobody feels like buying?
    Once it comes from iPhone, young people will jump on it instantly
    208AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:49
    Re: #202
    Chinese and Korean makers don't have the clout to move the global market
    211AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:50
    Re: #202
    No one's jumping on it
    Android still has the bigger market share anyway

    Background and Key Points

    Foldable phones sit at the intersection of two shifting arms races: display engineering and battery regulation. Samsung’s Galaxy Z Fold has led the category since 2019, but foldables remain a small niche of the global smartphone market — dominated by Chinese and Korean makers, none of whom carry Apple’s cultural weight in Japan. That matters because Apple’s iPhone share in Japan runs roughly 50%, far above its global average, making Japanese consumer sentiment unusually Apple-dependent; a folding iPhone, rumored for as early as fall 2026, would be the first real test of whether Japanese buyers embrace the form factor rather than merely tolerate it from Samsung.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t fold-versus-slab, it was trust in durability versus faith in Apple’s gravitational pull: skeptics cited crease wear, six-month screen protectors, and battery replacement as concrete, testable failures, while optimists offered no mechanism beyond “Apple will make it cool,” betting on brand rather than engineering improving in two years.

    What the thread never engages with is the regulatory backdrop: the EU’s mandate for user-replaceable batteries takes effect in February, which foldables’ thin, hinge-heavy design makes especially hard to satisfy — the poster who raised it got a one-line reply and no real follow-up. Readers outside Japan should also know MM Research Institute is a domestic IT market-research firm, so this data reflects Japanese buying psychology specifically, not global demand — replacement cycles here already run close to five years, which alone explains much of the “won’t buy” figure without needing to invoke the foldable format’s flaws at all.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Foldable Phones: About Half Clearly Say “I Don’t Want to Buy One”… Whether the “Foldable iPhone,” Expected Fall 2026, Succeeds Will Be the Litmus Test for the Category’s Future.”

  • New World Record: China’s Maglev Train Hits 800 km/h Just 5 Seconds After Launch

    China’s magnetic levitation (maglev) railway has reportedly succeeded in a test run that reached 800 km/h in just 5.3 seconds from a standing start, then brought the train to a safe stop. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, discussion has centered on the G-forces passengers would experience, whether decelerating over such a short distance is safe, and how the technology differs from Japan’s superconducting maglev.

    New World Record: China’s Maglev Train Hits 800 km/h Just 5 Seconds After Launch

    The results of a magnetic levitation (maglev) railway test conducted in China are drawing the attention of engineers and security experts around the world.

    The train accelerated rapidly to 800 km/h in a mere 5.3 seconds, then successfully came to a smooth stop.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 17, 2026 23:44
    The Shinkansen only does 300 km/h and still has that platypus-bill nose, but this thing hits 800 km/h and looks totally ordinary.
    53AnonymousAug 18, 2026 03:44
    Re: #2
    The platypus-bill shape is to reduce the shock when entering tunnels. If there's no tunnel, the shape can be a lot simpler.
    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:01
    If you accelerate to 800 km/h over 10 seconds, that works out to about 2.27G (roughly 22.25 m/s²). That's like being pressed back into your seat with about 2.27 times the force of Earth's gravity.

    If a 70kg driver experiences a 2G load, the effective weight on their body doubles to 140kg (about 1,372 newtons).
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 01:34
    Re: #8
    It's actually 5 seconds, so double that again?
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:08
    My earlier number was wrong. Accelerating to 800 km/h in 5 seconds works out to about 4.54G.

    If a 70kg driver takes a 4.45G load (4.45 times Earth's gravity), the total force on their body is equivalent to about 311.5kg (3,054.8 newtons).

    Kind of like having three 100kg (220 lb) guys sitting on top of you?
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 02:42
    Re: #13
    I have a vague feeling aircraft acceleration/deceleration G-forces are around 1.3G — compare that.
    19AnonymousAug 18, 2026 00:40
    Japan's railgun also has a muzzle velocity of 3 km/s, you know.
    71AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:25
    Re: #19
    Crank that up just a bit more than double and it'd circle the globe and come back to hit you…
    24AnonymousAug 18, 2026 01:07
    This is a high-speed test using a small-scale vehicle. Judging by the video, the method is close to JR's approach. China also has another test line using the conventional (normal-conducting) electromagnet method that's producing similar results. They're probably still weighing which one to go with.
    108AnonymousAug 18, 2026 16:47
    Re: #24
    Last year's article said the National University of Defense Technology's system uses superconducting electromagnetic levitation and propulsion.
    https://news.sciencenet.cn/htmlnews/2025/12/557701.shtm
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DSrfkgjFB96/

    This time it says the Hubei Donghu Laboratory's system uses electromagnetic levitation support and propulsion — I wonder how that differs?
    34AnonymousAug 18, 2026 01:52
    4.27G, huh? That's nuts.
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 03:45
    Re: #34
    Wasn't blackout from blood being unable to reach the brain supposed to start around 5G? Apparently there's individual variation too — some people can't even handle 3G — so with this kind of acceleration, a few passengers would probably pass out, and if anyone has a health condition or is frail, it could get dangerous.
    37AnonymousAug 18, 2026 02:13
    The issue isn't the acceleration, it's the deceleration. If you can't stop safely over a short distance, you can't even reach that speed in the first place.
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 02:44
    Re: #37
    Well, but even the original Shinkansen was designed so the driver can't stop in time to avoid an obstacle by sight alone.
    49AnonymousAug 18, 2026 03:15
    In Japan this would just mean longer transfer times with zero benefit — and it'd take 10 minutes just to get down underground to begin with.
    55AnonymousAug 18, 2026 03:52
    However you look at it, this is an aircraft-carrier electromagnetic catapult.
    61AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:01
    Re: #55
    Carrier catapults are only a few dozen meters long, though. Can this method even reach that kind of speed over such a short distance?
    59AnonymousAug 18, 2026 05:15
    This isn't for humans, it's for humanoid robots. They made it general-purpose, so it has to carry them seated in human-style seats. But since it's a CCP product, the question is whether it can actually hold up to 4.54G.
    60AnonymousAug 18, 2026 05:34
    Re: #59
    If you rode this right after eating, you'd throw it all up spectacularly lol
    92AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:31
    Inside a train that hits 800 km/h in 5 seconds from a standstill: any unsecured luggage, phones, and standing passengers would go 'flying' toward the rear wall the instant it launches, at speeds exceeding 160 km/h (pro-baseball-fastball territory). The cabin would be a disaster zone in an instant.
    I mean, that's terrifying lol
    97AnonymousAug 18, 2026 12:26
    Re: #92
    Americans would probably love this kind of extreme stuff. There's a small chance the US and China team up on it.
    101AnonymousAug 18, 2026 13:46
    Re: #92
    Everyone would need seatbelts and no eating or drinking allowed. Phones, earbuds, all bags would have to be stowed.
    113AnonymousAug 18, 2026 19:14
    So it's beaten Japan's maglev. China's maglev uses the German system, so unlike Japan's it doesn't need to run underground. It should also be cheaper to build than Japan's method — though Germany itself abandoned commercialization over the cost, even so.
    119AnonymousAug 18, 2026 20:40
    Re: #113
    The reason Japan's superconducting maglev runs underground is that buying up the land for the route isn't realistic.

    Background and Key Points

    Reading a report of an 800 km/h maglev test doesn’t require imagining a passenger train — the vehicle in question is a small-scale unmanned test sled, and China is running at least two parallel programs to get there. One, from the National University of Defense Technology, uses superconducting electrodynamic levitation, the same broad family of physics as Japan’s SCMaglev on the Chuo Shinkansen line (target speed 505 km/h, still under construction). The other, reportedly from Hubei’s Donghu Laboratory and the one behind this test, uses electromagnetic (normal-conducting) levitation — closer in principle to Germany’s abandoned Transrapid, which Shanghai’s commercial airport maglev already runs commercially at up to 430 km/h. Posters in the thread noted China appears to still be hedging between the two approaches rather than committing to one.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t over whether 800 km/h is achievable — nobody contested the headline number — but over whether the acceleration and, more pointedly, the deceleration are survivable for a human occupant. Estimates in the thread ranged from roughly 2.3G to 4.5G depending on whether posters assumed a 5-second or 10-second run-up, with several noting that sustained G-loads above roughly 5G risk blackout from restricted blood flow to the brain, and that tolerance varies enough between individuals that some would struggle well below that.

    What the thread didn’t address: this is a short test track, not a revenue line, so the same distance-limited physics that produce dramatic G-forces during a brief demo would not apply to a full-length passenger corridor, where acceleration could be stretched over minutes rather than seconds. The comparison to Japan’s blunt-nosed Shinkansen nose (for tunnel pressure waves) versus this vehicle’s plainer shape is also not evidence of Chinese superiority — it simply means this test, unlike Japan’s mountainous tunnel network, wasn’t run through tunnels.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Railways] New World Record: China’s Maglev Train Hits 800 km/h Just 5 Seconds After Launch.”

  • Akita’s AI Data Center Could Eat Up Over Half the Prefecture’s Electricity — 5ch: “Nothing Good in It for Residents”

    An Asahi Shimbun article reporting that the UAE’s ambassador visited the planned site of an AI data center in Akita Prefecture became a hot topic on 5ch.

    Reports suggest that once fully operational, the facility could consume roughly half of Akita Prefecture’s total electricity usage, sparking a heated debate over the massive amounts of cooling water required, low-frequency noise, higher electricity bills, and real-world examples of resident opposition movements in the United States.

    Can AI Data Centers Save Rural Japan? UAE Ambassador Visits Planned Site in Akita [Akita Prefecture] [The Age of AI]: Asahi Shimbun

    August 19, 2026, 11:44 AM — Paid article

    江湖良二, 上田学, Staff Writer: 篠健一郎

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:06
    It uses a ton of water and there's a risk of contamination
    Rice farming's gonna be finished, isn't it?
    Between this and the "R" thing, Akita Prefecture seems shady
    564AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:46
    Re: #8
    It's not a nuclear plant, so I don't get how it would cause contamination
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:08
    Building it in a cold region isn't a bad idea
    Might as well put all that snow to efficient use too
    43AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:16
    Re: #14
    If they can just keep dumping snow on it endlessly, that might actually work out well
    177AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:45
    There's a surprising amount of opposition to building data centers — kind of don't get it, since there's no real noise or pollution involved
    182AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:47
    Re: #177
    Apparently the low-frequency noise is on par with standing right under a wind turbine lol
    213AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:52
    Re: #177
    A huge warehouse-like building suddenly pops up right in the middle of town
    And it's basically like placing a giant shichirin (charcoal grill) in the middle of the city — it heats up the whole surrounding area lol
    Nothing good in it for the residents lol
    447AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:13
    Re: #177
    In Phoenix, USA, and in Texas, it's already turned into a political issue — pro-data-center state legislators have lost their seats while anti-data-center candidates have won
    249AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:00
    Prefectures without a single data center are basically IT backwaters
    https://blogs.ricoh.co.jp/RISB/20220201_04.png

    Places with zero probably don't even have fiber-optic lines running through them
    288AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:10
    Re: #282
    Yeah, I don't get people going on about "the water, the water"
    It's not like they're manufacturing semiconductors, so it's not going to get contaminated
    303AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:13
    Re: #288
    Well, it is true that they evaporate it like crazy and use an insane amount, though
    292AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:10
    Electricity bills will definitely go up, and that burden falls on residents
    295AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:12
    Re: #292
    Wouldn't a place like Akita actually be able to sell off surplus power, which would lower residents' electricity bills?
    301AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:13
    Re: #292
    In Japan it'll probably just get passed on as a burden to every single Japanese person lol
    302AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:13
    Re: #292
    Since when are electricity rates calculated per city?
    It's calculated across all of Tohoku Electric Power's service area, so one more data center is only a tiny marginal increase
    443AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:12
    Re: #1
    Data centers are kind of outdated tech, aren't they
    They consume massive amounts of electricity and generate enormous heat, which negatively affects the surrounding environment

    In fact, in the US, which is further along on this, residents are actively pursuing class-action lawsuits and legal opposition movements
    457AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
    Re: #443
    What specifically counts as environmental damage here?
    462AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:16
    Re: #457
    Apparently it's pretty noisy.
    There's a constant "whirrrr" sound, 24/7, 365 days a year.
    Not an issue if there's no housing nearby, though.
    569AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:47
    Re: #457
    Of course, the power draw isn't like a factory's — it's the equivalent of an entire city's electricity consumption
    And the huge volume of cooling water is enough for millions of people in a single day, so it's on par with a whole city's water supply
    Air pollution and health damage from the huge number of diesel generators
    The diesel generators are seriously the number one issue that gets residents riled up
    Basically, every single aspect of the scale here is just on a completely different order of magnitude lol
    498AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:28
    Tohoku's population is shrinking anyway, so instead of just flatly saying "no way!", show some spirit and squeeze every yen you can out of them!!
    510AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:31
    Re: #498
    The ones shouting "no way!" look like outsiders to me
    When Akita Prefecture itself is saying "let's build it!" lol
    If they've got their own wind power, it's win-win
    524AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:36
    Re: #498
    The locals were on board with this from the start
    It's the non-locals who are saying no
    536AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:40
    Re: #498
    This is a business for the wealthy, and it'll wreck ordinary people's food supply in the process
    Is there really anyone who wants to cheer on the rich here?
    554AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:44
    Apparently, once it's fully up and running, this data center alone will use about 50% of Akita Prefecture's current total electricity consumption
    558AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:45
    Re: #554
    Why not just cover the fallow rice paddies with solar panels?
    559AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:45
    Re: #554
    Well, if a foreign-owned data center ends up taking such a disproportionately large share, I think they should be made to shoulder their portion of the electrical infrastructure costs — squeeze the money out of them
    They obviously shouldn't get treated the same as an ordinary domestic company

    Background and Key Points

    Akita is one of Japan’s fastest-depopulating prefectures, with an economy still anchored in rice farming and, more recently, offshore and onshore wind power. That wind capacity is precisely why it has become a candidate site for hyperscale AI infrastructure: data centers need cheap, abundant power more than they need proximity to Tokyo, and rural Tohoku prefectures have been courting this kind of investment as a rare growth lever against decades of population loss. A UAE ambassador touring the site signals Gulf state capital — likely tied to the wave of US-UAE AI infrastructure partnerships (state-linked vehicles like G42 and MGX) that have been striking deals across Asia through 2025-2026 — rather than a domestic Japanese developer. Japan’s existing data center footprint is heavily clustered around Tokyo and Osaka, so a facility of this scale in Akita would be an outlier, which is part of what makes it newsworthy.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t environmental science, it’s who counts as a stakeholder: posters distinguish between Akita Prefecture’s own government and boosters, who frame this as a lifeline for a shrinking region, versus critics characterizing it as wealthy outside interests extracting local water, land, and power while ordinary residents absorb the noise and heat.

    What’s likely to trip up outside readers is the electricity-pricing point raised and largely dropped in the thread: Japanese utility rates are set across an entire company’s service territory (Tohoku Electric Power’s, spanning six prefectures), not per municipality, so “50% of Akita’s usage” doesn’t straightforwardly translate into Akita residents’ bills rising by anything close to that share.

    This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Can AI Data Centers Save Rural Japan? UAE Ambassador Visits Planned Site in Akita.”

  • FF14 Players Split Over “Cheating Isn’t Evil” Defiance — 5ch: “Any Other Online Game Would Get You Banned for This”

    In FF14, popular even on PS5, a debate over the use of MODs and DPS-tracking tools flared up on the console wars (geha) board. One post argued that “in other online games, cheaters get pushed out of the community, but in FF14 it’s the people who *don’t* cheat who end up feeling like outsiders.” In response, some defended the developers’ refusal to add anti-cheat measures, arguing it could destroy the culture of racing to clear raids and post the fastest logs. Opinions were split.

    There was also frustration over how this plays out on consoles, given a MOD-centric culture that creates a gap between platforms.

    5AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:17
    MODs are just common sense on PC
    Only the Nintendo fanboys ("Nishi-kun," 5ch slang for anti-Nintendo trolls posing as fans) are against it
    32AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:04
    Re: #5
    You can't properly install MODs on PS
    ↓
    PS piggy: "…MODs are evil!"
    12AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:25
    https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/05b39a26f9740ef1bc2baa91ec3a661a2d2802c9

    Our "guru" (sarcastic nickname for producer Naoki Yoshida) never said "MODs are banned"
    26AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:48
    Re: #12
    He said anything that affects other players is a no-go, though
    13AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:28
    This game has the worst community manners in the world, doesn't it
    52AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:45
    Re: #13
    That's just the starting line — this is a game where in-game disputes have actually led to real deaths
    24AnonymousAug 20, 2026 09:47
    The reason cheating has spread this far in FF14 really comes down to the community's rotten manners
    If you cheat in FF14, instead of getting called out, people tell you "It's your own fault for not cheating too, lol" or "If you're not using tools, don't bother showing up to high-end content!"
    In other online games, cheaters get shunned by the community, but in FF14 most people see everyone else cheating and think "guess I'll cheat too" — the community's manners are just done for
    63AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:14
    Re: #24
    You say "other online games," but
    Western MMORPGs often have official MOD support.
    I was surprised UO (Ultima Online) just came bundled with a well-regarded MOD tool as standard.

    Well, I guess since they only market to Japanese users, they ended up banning MODs…
    69AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:38
    Re: #24
    Wasn't there a Western player who got world-first on a new boss and then quit FF14 with the parting shot, "Finally, I get to escape this pathetic cheater pool"?
    Calling it a "cheater pool" is pretty brutal
    31AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:00
    MODs get popular because the vanilla game is trash
    33AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:07
    Re: #31
    This, basically
    FF14 is riddled with MODs simply because it's low quality as a product
    35AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:12
    "C'mon, somebody running logs join our pug!"
    A friend of mine actually said this — cracked me up (lol)
    56AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:57
    Re: #35
    Just upload your own logs then
    Wanting someone else to do it, and publicly at that — are you dumb?
    46AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:35
    Since the game basically assumes everyone cheats, console players have no rights, huh?
    So why'd they even release it on Switch 2
    49AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:38
    Re: #46
    Probably because there's no playerbase there?
    They released it on Xbox too and that didn't help either
    48AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:36
    This is exactly why PC gamers get hated on even in cross-play
    And then they complain when things get broken because of it
    51AnonymousAug 20, 2026 10:39
    And it's not just the tools — the community's manners are like this even without them


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQBby-BbgAAHUuR.jpg
    59AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:00
    Re: #51
    Nothing weird about this, honestly
    You can tell from checking someone's gear during matchmaking that something's off, and in this case it looks like glamour (cosmetic) gear at item level 0 — getting called out is fair
    86AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:12
    Re: #51
    Checking someone's gear just to call them out —
    what a community, man
    64AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:21
    No matter how well-regarded a MOD is, it still shows zero respect for the developers
    How can people just go modifying someone else's work without permission?
    67AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:34
    Re: #64
    You didn't know?
    The producer here actually said he wants to thank the people who make them
    By the way, the ones losing their minds over this are PS loyalists — they've been bitterly griping for years that it's "unfair" they can't use them

    Apparently they even want MOD support pulled from PS entirely
    70AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:39
    Re: #67
    Oh, you didn't know?
    That guy only sees FF14 as a product, nothing more
    75AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:44
    Re: #70
    Is there such a thing as a game a company releases that ISN'T a product for sale?
    Unless you mean like some test project made by new hires, or a bonus freebie?

    Honestly, I don't get what you're trying to say
    Even free-to-play games
    are tools for making money, you know…
    76AnonymousAug 20, 2026 11:58
    MODs that change your appearance are honestly pretty sketchy stuff these days, online or offline
    79AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:05
    Re: #76
    Uh… do you even play games?
    81AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:08
    Just keep all the scumbags quarantined in FF14, please
    83AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:11
    Re: #81
    We need to quarantine them from the boss man who's out there thanking those guys
    96AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:28
    Re: #86
    Sure, every online game has people calling stuff out…
    builds, items, gear
    Are you new to online games or something?
    Even in FPS games, people leave if you pull some garbage move
    98AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:31
    Re: #96
    Even in Battlefield people leave the squad
    Like when you need to push after a revive beacon's down, and someone starts camping as a useless potato sniper instead
    106AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:57
    60 Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.0][Sprout] (Wacchoi 7f15-GczT [2001:268:948b:fb29:*]) sage 2026/08/19 (Wed) 18:47:13.28 ID:GWMd0+hM0
    Things have been dull lately, so my group of 4 tanks and healers has started deliberately toggling off tank stance to just pad DPS, and we clear raids and extreme trials while intentionally leaving one specific party member dead the whole fight, just for kicks
    Watching them rage-quit is hilarious, we have a blast about it on voice chat
    108AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:02
    Re: #106
    Building a game that turns into "Toxic Online" is exactly why only this kind of trash sticks around
    It's all Yoshida's fault
    112AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:18
    FF14 must really not consider it "evil," since it doesn't even have anti-cheat installed
    But I still think it's lazy that they haven't closed the platform gap, when they clearly could, despite releasing on multiple platforms
    115AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:24
    Re: #112
    I think the reason FF14 doesn't have anti-cheat is that it would kill everything built around ACT (the third-party combat parser)
    Meaning FFLogs would die, and so would the raid-race scene where people flex their clear times
    There's also a whole segment of players doing Savage raids on the assumption that tools are available, so adding anti-cheat would basically be suicide — it'd destroy the main content
    116AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:28
    Re: #115
    No, if the game needs a DPS meter, the devs should just build one in officially…
    Otherwise that's basically the same as saying console players can't participate
    121AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:34
    Re: #116
    That's a fair point
    But if the devs officially add a DPS meter, this garbage community will use it as an excuse to start gatekeeping people
    And the devs clearly don't want to be blamed for that, so they can't implement it
    125AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:53
    FF14 should really split servers between console and PC
    I know other MMOs riddled with cheats too
    but at least those keep the platforms separate
    126AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:57
    Re: #125
    The population's too small for that, it'd never work

    Background and Key Points

    Final Fantasy XIV is Square Enix’s subscription MMORPG, rebuilt from a failed 2010 launch into “A Realm Reborn” in 2013 under producer/director Naoki Yoshida (nicknamed “Yoshi-P”), whose turnaround made him something of a folk hero in Japanese gaming and explains why posters treat his public comments as near-scripture. The game runs on PC, PlayStation, and now Xbox and Switch 2, but only PC allows third-party software: ACT (Advanced Combat Tracker) parses combat logs into DPS numbers, which feed FFLogs, the external site raiders use to benchmark and rank clears of “Savage,” the game’s hardcore raid tier. Console platform holders, especially Sony, don’t certify overlay or injection tools, so PS players structurally cannot use them — this is a platform-certification issue, not something Square Enix chose. The “geha” board itself is 5ch’s dedicated console-wars forum, so tribal PlayStation-vs-PC sniping is baked into the framing before the topic even starts.

    The thread doesn’t actually split on whether cheating is good or bad in the abstract — it splits on whether Square Enix’s refusal to police these tools is a defensible tradeoff (killing ACT/FFLogs would gut the raid-race culture that keeps hardcore players engaged) or an abdication that leaves console owners as second-class citizens in content they paid full price for.

    What’s likely to be missed: “MOD” here mostly means glamour/cosmetic reskins and log parsers, not stat-altering hacks — nothing here is pay-to-win or combat-breaking in the FPS-aimbot sense, despite the “cheater” framing. It’s also worth knowing Western MMOs like Ultima Online have shipped with sanctioned mod tools for decades, so FF14’s tolerance isn’t the outlier the thread implies — its console lockout is.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry (Console Wars)) thread “[Barrier Sad News] FF14, Hugely Popular on PS5, Sees Fans Double Down That “Cheating Isn’t Evil” — This Community’s Manners Are Just Awful“.

  • Mass Cancellations Hit Claude Over New Watermark Feature — 5ch Debates How It Works

    After AI company Anthropic introduced an “AI watermark” into text generated by its chat assistant Claude — one that’s detectable through quirks in writing style — some users began canceling their subscriptions over it. On 5ch, technical debate continued over how this invisible watermark actually works and how it differs from watermarks embedded in images.

    Anthropic’s move to introduce a “watermark” into Claude-generated text is driving some users away from the AI assistant.

    “It just keeps inserting watermarks no matter what.”

    Richard Echols, an AI consultant based in Georgia, USA, revealed that he canceled his Claude Max subscription on the 12th, saying the watermark was a major reason behind the decision.

    Source: businessinsider.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:41
    Is it just geniuses and total idiots with Americans? No middle ground?
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:43
    Re: #4
    The genius and the idiot are the same guy
    73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:31
    Re: #4
    Europe used to treat Galileo like an idiot too, back in the day
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:43
    I always thought "cloud" was kind of a dated tech buzzword — now there's an AI service running around with basically the same name?
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:45
    Re: #11
    That's "Cloud." Claude is pronounced "Claude" (kurōdo, like the French name)
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:57
    Re: #11
    "Kurōdo" is also the word for a sake-brewery craftsman (a pun on how Claude is pronounced in Japanese)
    308AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:41
    Re: #11
    Stick "Maki" in front of Claude and the reading becomes obvious (a nod to Japanese actor Maki Kurando)
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:45
    Can't you just strip the watermark out? Are people not even reading it and just posting?
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:46
    Re: #14
    It's expressed through quirks in sentence style and biases in word choice — it's not a watermark you can spot at a glance
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:47
    Re: #18
    Ah, I see.

    > According to Anthropic, this watermark travels with the content even through copy-paste, and may survive some amount of editing.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:48
    Re: #18
    This is presumably built for English, French, and the like. How would it even work for Japanese — some kind of vertical acrostic reading?
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:04
    Automatic "AI watermark" embedding will probably end up mandatory for all AI eventually. We can barely tell AI content apart from real stuff anymore, and fake AI campaign videos of rival candidates are already possible during elections. Digital watermarking is going to become mandatory worldwide.
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:10
    Re: #51
    Anyone who skips it, or illegally strips it off, will probably end up facing penalties
    58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:12
    Re: #51
    Interesting angle — I bet pirated copies and government/military use will just quietly run unregulated versions
    116AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:58
    If it's a document, just have it output as Markdown and open that in Word — there's no way for a watermark to survive that
    122AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:03
    Re: #116
    It's using the fluctuations unique to how AI generates text — the writing itself is the basis for detection
    123AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:03
    Re: #116
    It's not a binary-level watermark being inserted — the point is that quirks in the writing let you identify a specific author. Like if someone always ends sentences with "da'cha" or "dattebayo," you can tell who wrote it (catchphrases from the characters Lum and Naruto). The idea is to embed something like that naturally. Some people have a distinctive way of placing punctuation too, right?
    126AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:05
    It's not about sentence endings lmaooo. I already said it's the fluctuation in the text generation lol. Same mechanism as AI-detection tools.
    133AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:08
    Re: #126
    Strictly speaking it's not just sentence endings, but what happens if someone builds a generator that impersonates a specific person? Like if you ask it to "write this in Hiroyuki's style" (referring to 2channel founder Hiroyuki Nishimura's distinct blunt tone), that would clash with the AI watermark. I'd guess building a "Murakami Haruki-style generator" or a "Hiroyuki generator" would conflict with the watermark lol
    135AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:09
    Re: #133
    That's just because you're assuming the watermark can only live in sentence endings lol
    140AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:11
    Re: #133
    Makes me curious how the AI's telltale fluctuations would get embedded when generating text in Dazai Osamu's style lol
    127AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:05
    For images, just saving as .jpg and changing the compression ratio seems like it'd wreck the watermark. They might design it to survive compression, but there are still plenty of ways to deliberately destroy it.
    145AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:15
    Re: #127
    Whether you turn it into an image, compress it, or whatever, I think it's the same as long as it's still readable as text — the quirk is baked into the word choices themselves
    147AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:16
    Re: #145
    Oh, sorry, were you talking about images?
    149AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:18
    Re: #145
    That's a slightly different topic. Text watermarks and image watermarks work on completely different principles. A text watermark is about stylistic quirks, but an image watermark operates at the binary level.

    Look up "steganography" and you'll see — there have long been ways to embed extra data inside image files.
    182AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:38
    ChatGPT writes pretty distinctive text, doesn't it. I always wonder what's with the emoji it sticks in headings.
    186AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:42
    Re: #182
    Huh, I don't get that at all
    252AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:39
    Re: #182
    When it does add them, just tell it not to and they stop — same with other models
    211AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:04
    So what does a text watermark actually look like?
    220AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:09
    Re: #211
    "Hello, my name is Yamada Taro. Nice to meet you."

    → "Yo, I'm Yamada Taro! Stoked to meet ya!"

    Think of it as the writing style shifting like that (the second line mimics Son Goku's rough speech pattern from Dragon Ball)

    Background and Key Points

    Anthropic is the AI lab behind Claude, sold in consumer tiers including the premium “Claude Max” plan that consultant Richard Echols cancelled. The “watermark” at issue is not a hidden tag or file-level code; it belongs to a family of LLM techniques (research such as the Kirchenbauer “green-list” method and Google DeepMind’s SynthID-Text) that quietly bias which words or tokens the model favors during generation, so a statistical detector — not the human eye — can later flag the text as machine-written. That is a different animal from image watermarking, which embeds binary-level data via steganography and can survive or be destroyed by recompression. The thread’s Japanese framing is worth noting too: posters compare the mechanism to catchphrases from Naruto and Urusei Yasura’s Lum, invoke Dragon Ball’s Son Goku, and reference Hiroyuki Nishimura, the blunt-spoken founder of 2channel/5ch, as a hypothetical “style” an AI generator might imitate — all local shorthand for “a recognizable verbal tic,” not literal claims about how the watermark works.

    The actual disagreement in the thread was technical: some posters (123, 133) argued the watermark could be tied to identifiable stylistic quirks like sentence endings, while others (126, 135, 145) insisted it is purely statistical token-selection bias, unrelated to any single stylistic feature, and a separate sub-thread had to correct posters who conflated this text mechanism with image-file steganography.

    What the thread never addresses is the more likely reason for the backlash: forcing a model to favor certain tokens over others can measurably narrow phrasing and reduce output quality, which plausibly explains complaints like “disrupting my work” better than objections to watermarking as a principle.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread「🤖Users Begin Cancelling Claude Subscriptions… Backlash Against Automatic “AI Watermark” Feature: “It’s Disrupting My Work”」.