Category: Idols

  • Why Is ANGERME Always the One Getting Bashed on Hello! Project’s 5ch ‘Ōkami’ Board?

    A thread titled “Why does the ‘Ōkami’ (Wolf) board have so many anti-fans who treat ANGERME as public enemy number one?” popped up on 5ch’s “Ōkami” board — the gathering place for Hello! Project group fans — and drew 41 replies. Many posters argued it’s blowback from ANGERME fans (known as “Anjuwota”) having attacked other groups themselves in the past, while others suggested the group is simply being scapegoated now that its popularity has slipped. Some brought up “Ankasu,” the nickname for Juice=Juice fans, and others compared the situation to the old Berryz Kobo vs. °C-ute fan rivalry, with opinions split over the board’s internal power dynamics.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:34
    Why though?
    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:36
    Probably because they're always seen as a threat.
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:38
    Probably because Anjuwota have been attacking everyone in every direction up until now
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:39
    Well, you don't get bashed unless people see you as a threat
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:39
    Re: #6
    So basically Juice=Juice is a massive threat then, huh
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:39
    We've had to watch Anjuwota bash other groups for so long that nobody wants to activate the mutual-aid squad for them
    Nobody's going out of their way to bash them either
    9AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:39
    "It's only Anjuwota bashing Juice!"
    That's probably just what they want to believe
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:40
    Re: #9
    Honestly I don't care who bashes us — we're insanely popular in exchange
    If anything, it's fans of declining groups who tend to want to pin the blame on just one scapegoat
    But if you're only hated by one group, that means you're popular to begin with
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:40
    ANGERME's "RED LINE is coming, it's coming!" hype scam just isn't catching fire lolololololololololololololol
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789817681/
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:42
    It's basically just the usual obsessive old geezer who won't let it go, isn't it
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:44
    Re: #13
    The burnout who pastes sales numbers around without sleeping
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:43
    Berryz Kobo fans and °C-ute fans
    went at each other for years — for anyone who watched that, this is just an everyday sight
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:43
    Re: #14
    And it's funny how the structure where Morning Musume fans lorded over all of it
    collapsed in 2026
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:43
    I don't think it's about being an anti-fan
    People are just evaluating the current group with a cool head
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:44
    What's funny is there are people saying ANGERME is the only one getting bashed on X (Twitter) too
    25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:47
    Re: #18
    Getting bashed? lol Bashed by who, outside the Ōkami board? lol
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:30
    Re: #18
    Copy-paste trolling and bashing other groups all get pinned on Anjuwota,
    so a lot of them gave up on the Ōkami board in despair and left
    and now they probably can't help tweeting on X with the same victim mentality and Ōkami-style attitude

    But the fact that the main ANGERME thread just quietly died out with no sign of reviving
    means this lopsided situation is bound to bring trouble to the whole Ōkami board eventually
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:45
    Juice=Juice will fall from grace eventually too, you know
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:45
    Re: #20
    You mean ANGERME already fell and just stayed down?
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:47
    The writing style and content are basically the same every time, so it's obvious
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:48
    Re: #23
    Apparently they think nobody's noticed
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:48
    Re: #21
    ANGERME never even rose in the first place
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:49
    Call it karma
    We Juice fans haven't forgotten how the Ankasu crowd was whooping it up when they skipped playing Budokan a few years back
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:49
    Re: #30
    Confessing that it's Juice fans doing the bashing doesn't really help your case…
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:49
    Why do Ankasu keep bashing Juice so relentlessly — is it because it stings?
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:49
    Because "Ankasu" is basically code for "Juice Geezers" (an insult implying Juice=Juice's fanbase skews old)
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:50
    They're not anti-fans, they're just disliked, no?
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:51
    Probably because they keep getting pushed hard by management despite not delivering results?
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:51
    You see fans here and there who look down on everyone, like that notorious Hashisako fan crowd — isn't that just why they're disliked?
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:53
    Anjuwota had no guts though, so they ran away
    42AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:55
    It's because Anjuwota are the ones throwing the first stone, that's why
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:57
    It's not "Don't bash ANGERME!" — it's "Anjuwota, don't bash other groups!"
    46AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:00
    More importantly, go check Osaka — the venue's completely empty
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:01
    It's Takeo's fault, isn't it
    It's coming back around as a boomerang right about now
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:15
    They were bashing Haito, yet sneakily tried to make RED LINE go viral too — but it fell completely flat
    Subscriber numbers didn't budge an inch
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:16
    Ankasu's ROCK IN JAPAN FES slot getting cancelled is just sad lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Ōkami” (Wolf) is the nickname for the 5ch board where threads for Hello! Project-affiliated groups congregate, home to fans of Morning Musume, ANGERME, Juice=Juice, and more, all under one roof. Because of the popularity gaps between groups and old grudges, the board’s structure makes clashes between fans easy to spark, and the past rivalry between Berryz Kobo and °C-ute fans gets cited as one example of that. In this thread too, opinions split between those who framed the attacks on ANGERME as “poetic justice for Anjuwota having bashed other groups in the past” and those who said it’s “simply that a group whose popularity has dropped becomes an easy scapegoat” — both are just posters’ personal opinions, and there’s no objective evidence in the thread showing which view is actually the majority. The frequent use of derogatory nicknames like “Ankasu” for fan groups also hints at how deep the rivalry runs.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Why ‘Ōkami’ Has So Many Anti-Fans Who Treat ANGERME as Public Enemy Number One.”

  • Typhoon No. 25 Forces Cancellation of ‘ROCK IN JAPAN FES. 2026’ on the 21st

    On September 20, organizers of “ROCK IN JAPAN FES. 2026” announced that the following day’s (the 21st) performances would be cancelled due to the approach of Typhoon No. 25. They cited a sharp increase in rainfall and strong winds that would make it difficult to ensure safety both inside and outside the venue. The same day also saw the Tokyo Game Show at Makuhari Messe called off, part of a wave of severe-weather event cancellations across the greater Kanto region. On a message board frequented by Hello! Project fans, discussion centered on the status of the ANGERME members who had been scheduled to perform, the potential impact on the following day’s Aichi show, and detailed weather forecasts — though baseless speculation about certain members’ attendance also circulated.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:00
    【ROCK IN JAPAN FES. 2026】
    Notice of Cancellation for September 21 (Mon, national holiday)
    Tomorrow, September 21 (Monday, national holiday), rainfall far exceeding today's is forecast to continue all day because of Typhoon No. 25, with strong winds also expected as the typhoon makes its closest approach. For these reasons, we have judged that ensuring safety in and around the venue would be difficult.
    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:01
    Re: #1
    Yeah, that's right.
    Offshore = company, huh. (context of this one-liner is unclear — possibly a stray copypasta/joke unrelated to the thread topic)
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:03
    ANGERME's Lucky Fes

    16 Name withheld for now… 2026/09/05 (Sat) 23:26:03.15 0
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:05
    Wind — Rockin'
    Forest —
    Fire — Ise
    Mountain — (wordplay on "Furinkazan"/風林火山, the classic "wind, forest, fire, mountain" motto, here mapped to festival names)
    130AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:26
    Re: #21
    Wind-Forest-Fire-Mountain lmaooooo

    What if there's a landslide around the "Mountain" one though
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:07
    So it's still going on today, huh.
    Curious how the rain looks on-site.
    40AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:08
    Re: #31
    Today it's running as a special exception, with refunds available.
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:08
    Re: #31
    It's been raining nonstop and it's already looking rough today, so of course tomorrow's cancelled.
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:07
    The Game Show at Makuhari Messe is cancelled tomorrow too, you know.
    45AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:09
    Re: #36
    Apparently even without an on-site event over there, there's still some chance they'll do something via livestream.
    48AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:09
    Guess Hashisako's last Rockin' just died. (Hashisako = surname of an ANGERME member)
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:09
    Re: #48
    Well, the triumphant homecoming show in Aichi the next day looks fine, so I guess that's something.
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:11
    Does this lock in their CDJ (Countdown Japan) appearance for sure now? As a sympathy pass.
    70AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:13
    Re: #62
    Members who were set to perform on the 21st will probably get some kind of preferential treatment, but it's not a done deal.
    64AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:12
    So this year both Lucky Fes and Rockin' had their final day cancelled, huh.
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:12
    Re: #64
    Lucky Fes actually did go ahead though.
    67AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:13
    This announcement drops right while a Juice=Juice member is on TV —
    truly symbolic of what this year's been like for Juice=Juice and ANGERME…
    74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:13
    Tomorrow's set times/timetable
    https://rijfes.s3.amazonaws.com/2026/img/timetable/0819_YE7ybCkOHs/tt_0921.png
    81AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:15
    Re: #74
    Oh, it overlapped with Ado's slot?
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:14
    If Rockin' was the only show you had tickets for, go to Nagoya instead, why don't you.
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:21
    Re: #78
    East of Aichi, trains look likely to stop, which is scary.
    People west of Aichi will probably be fine though.
    85AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:16
    Right now it's still just normal rain, but well, can't be helped.
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:18
    Re: #85
    I checked the hour-by-hour forecast from Weathernews — headquartered in Kaihin-Makuhari — and tomorrow evening through night is when the rain and wind get worst, so cancelling is the obvious move.
    If they don't decide early, a lot of people could end up stranded, so this timing makes sense.
    98AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:20
    Re: #67
    And so, once again today, Juice=Juice gets a little more known to the world.
    109AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:21
    Re: #98
    Can't wait to see how they get "known" via a TV Tokyo show with under 1% ratings.
    116AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:22
    Re: #109
    See, you already know they were on it —
    that's already a win right there.
    101AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:20
    Wasn't there also a Hello! Project festival at Lake Yamanaka tomorrow? I wonder how that one's doing.
    118AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:22
    Re: #101
    You mean SPARK, right?
    OCHA NORMA ("Ocha" = tea, the group's nickname) is on the bill tomorrow, but it'll probably get cancelled too.
    Though since the organizers are notoriously sloppy, they might delay the decision and cause a mess for everyone.
    117AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:22
    For the generation that doesn't watch or even own a TV, having TVer (Japan's TV catch-up streaming app) is good enough.
    124AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:24
    Re: #117
    You think people who don't watch TV are gonna bother firing up TVer just for this?
    It's a garbage app where you can't even skip the ads.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    ROCK IN JAPAN FESTIVAL is one of Japan’s largest annual outdoor music festivals, held in Hitachinaka City, and single-day cancellations due to severe weather have become fairly common in recent years. The organizers have settled into a routine of closely monitoring weather forecasts for several days ahead and announcing cancellations as soon as venue safety looks doubtful, and this case followed that same pattern. Within the thread, the main points of discussion were the weather, transportation, and the possible knock-on effects for the following day’s Aichi show, while some posts flatly attributed certain members’ absences to “slacking off.” It’s worth noting that this is speculation not based on any official statement — the organizers have not explained the actual reasons for, or confirmed status of, any member’s appearance.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[ROCK IN JAPAN FES. 2026] Notice of Cancellation for September 21 (Mon, Holiday) [ANGERME].”

  • Juice=Juice’s New-Song Count Is the Lowest in Hello! Project Since 2022 — 5ch: ‘Hitting Home Runs With Barely Any At-Bats’

    A post on a Hello! Project message board sparked discussion after tallying how many new songs each group has released since 2022. According to the numbers posted, Juice=Juice has put out 27 songs — fewer than Morning Musume。’26 — and the gap looks especially stark next to ANGERME’s 35. Some posters read the low song count as a sign Juice=Juice is being frozen out by their agency, while others countered that the group has been racking up hits despite the small output, splitting opinion between those who value quantity and those who value quality. The talk spread into the quality of each group’s songs themselves, with users also clashing over which tracks actually get the crowd going at concerts.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:43
    Number of songs released since 2022
    27 — Morning Musume。'26
    35 — ANGERME
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:51
    Juice was being frozen out.
    Whoever's running the show there still can't accept that Juice is actually selling.
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    If they'd let 'Moremi' (fan nickname for the song 'Moresugite Gomen') run its course and just kept dropping new songs one after another, the buzz would've faded fast and the momentum died down anyway. Instead they held back new releases and froze the group out — and that backfired.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    Every group's doing offshore production, but Juice is the only one who actually got results out of it.
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    Does Ocha Norma even have songs like this?
    I thought they were just doing live cover tracks.
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    Juice=Juice just can't bring themselves to release new songs because they're scared of a huge flop.
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:54
    Reply Re: #14
    They did drop a song called 'Karei naru Revenger' (The Gorgeous Revenger).
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:55
    Talk about a comeback.
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Reply Re: #16
    Ironic that it's the winner singing it.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:58
    Is 'Piano Utte Cho~dai♪' (Please Sell Me a Piano♪) even selling?
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:59
    Reply Re: #20
    October 9th is a Friday, so nothing's dropping that day.
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:00
    ANGERME's cost-performance is way too bad.
    Just disband already.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:00
    5 songs last year.
    Only 3 so far this year (plus one anime tie-in).
    25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:01
    My impression is ANGERME keeps getting tons of chances and striking out every single time.
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:04
    Reply Re: #25
    'Hatsukoi no Bourei' (Ghost of First Love) → a bloop single
    'Shi no Go no' (No Ifs, Ands, or Buts) → a triple
    'Moremi' (nickname for 'Moresugite Gomen') → a grand slam out of the park
    'Bura Bare' (short for 'Bravo Shite Valentine') → a double
    'Amaenna' (Don't Get Spoiled) → a double

    Juice is batting 1.000 with a cycle hit.
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:02
    My impression is Juice keeps smashing home runs despite getting so few chances at bat.
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:03
    And that's even counting covers.
    They're at a level where they could drop a full album and a single at the same time before the year's out.
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:04
    Their all-out effort 'Kurakura' turned out to be total garbage.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:04
    Reply Re: #30
    Shouldn't you be embarrassed that no other group even has a song that can beat it?
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:04
    Reply Re: #28
    Morning Musume just had more TV exposure before Juice=Juice came along — their song count is actually the second-lowest, right behind Juice=Juice's, per Re: #1.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:06
    Why do all the elaborate, substantial songs end up going to ANGERME?
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:07
    Reply Re: #38
    How can it be 'substantial' if nobody's even streaming it on Spotify?
    43AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:10
    Juice's songs: instant ramen.
    ANGERME's songs: a full course meal.

    Instant ramen gets eaten more often, but the people who've had the course meal rate it way higher.
    Newcomers start with the cheap stuff, but they eventually work their way up to the course meal.
    45AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:11
    Reply Re: #43
    A course meal with no main dish.
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:19
    Everyone looked bored during 'Kurakura'.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:20
    Reply Re: #51
    Maybe deal with the fact that every other Hello! Project song this year has lost to that 'boring' track.
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:21
    Reply Re: #51
    Sounds like you've never actually been to a show.
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:21
    Reply Re: #52
    Please stop killing the concert vibe with a flop song.
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:21
    Reply Re: #53
    It's the songs with no numbers behind them that actually kill the concert vibe.
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:22
    Reply Re: #55
    The biggest mood-killer is the flop song 'Kurakura'.
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:24
    Reply Re: #56
    Back up your opinion with some evidence.
    57AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:22
    Do you seriously think 'Kurakura' is a good song? Not just being stubborn about it?
    61AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:25
    Reply Re: #57
    Nobody actually thinks that — the agency just wants to call it a success.
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:25
    Well, look at that.
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:25
    Reply Re: #60
    You can pull strings to boost numbers, but you can't pull strings to make something grow that isn't — so anything not growing is simply unpopular and killing the mood.
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:34
    The tragedy of a flop like 'Kurakura' getting added to the Hello! Project discography.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:34
    Reply Re: #71
    Wait, and is HAPPY's song 'HAPPY!' any better?

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    It’s worth noting that this kind of new-song-count comparison is something an individual user tallied up on their own on 5ch, and the totals can shift depending on how far you go in counting singles, coupling tracks, or concert-only songs. Some in the thread tied the low song count to the agency supposedly “freezing out” the group, but that’s purely speculation — there’s no official statement confirming any such policy. At the same time, plenty of posters praised the group for its streaming numbers and live reception despite the smaller output, and the thread’s temperature shifted depending on whether people were judging by quantity or quality. It’s also worth keeping in mind that Hello! Project runs multiple groups in parallel, and differences in release pace and concept naturally follow from each group’s own release strategy.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Did You Know Juice=Juice Has Released the Fewest New Songs of Any Hello! Project Group Since 2022?“

  • Hello! Project’s Individual MVP: 5ch Says ‘No Argument, It’s Momoha Nagano’

    A thread titled “This year’s Hello! Project individual MVP has to be Momoha Nagano, right?” popped up on 5channel’s Hello! Project board. Nagano is a newcomer who joined Juice=Juice only recently, but many praised her for winning a solo showcase festival just half a year after her debut. Others pushed back, arguing that “MVP is a title tied to team results too,” while some threw their support behind other Juice=Juice members, Angerme’s Tanimoto, and Morning Musume。’s Danbara. There was also back-and-forth correcting misunderstandings about how the solo festival’s voting results should be interpreted, and in the end no consensus was reached.

    1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:37
    There's no way this is wrong, whether you go by fan votes or member votes
    2AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:39
    Isn't Momoha Nagano not even a Juice=Juice member? That doesn't seem right
    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:39
    Even in major sports it's a title heavily shaped by team results, so I'm not so sure…
    Now Rookie of the Year, no argument there.
    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:39
    Momoha was just on a different level.
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:40
    Rookie of the Year should easily go to Nia too
    Being in Angerme means you get nothing anyway
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:40
    A genius who wins a solo festival just half a year after her Hello! Project debut
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:41
    Honestly, unless she transfers groups, her whole career could be in jeopardy
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:46
    Just for the solo festival, sure — she was definitely the MVP of this year's solo festival.
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:47
    Even at the solo festival, Niina (Nagano's nickname) was effectively the MVP anyway.
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:47
    Angerme, where Murakoshi can become the ace
    The decline just won't stop
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:47
    No threads even get started over Nagano, she's not meme material either — so what exactly has she done?
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:48
    Torn between her and Kamirena, but
    yeah, no argument here
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:49
    A genius who single-handedly produces the whole 'Angerme Gakuen' show, announcements included
    She's simply on a different level from members who just sing and dance as they're told
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:50
    Nishizaki played her trump card — 'resolve' — lol
    Her contribution was strong enough to win over even other Hello! Project members
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:54
    She's handling the job she's been given
    As an individual, no complaints
    but the team was too weak for it to translate into wins
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:55
    If she'd been in a stronger group ('box'), she'd have gotten way more attention
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:55
    The groups that couldn't even handle the jobs they were given and failed at their generational handover are the embarrassing ones
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:58
    MVP has to be someone from Juice=Juice, however you slice it
    If we're handing an award to someone outside Juice, then yeah, Kojima or Nagano might deserve something
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:00
    Trainee Kobushi, or Reirei, who clawed her way up out of a rough patch
    40AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:02
    Tanimoto's great too — she made Tsubaki Factory a warm group full of colorful personalities
    She revived Nishimura's career too
    42AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:04
    The sheer scale of it — a rookie already in the running for the yearly MVP
    48AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:15
    Honestly, if we're being serious, it's probably Danbara
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:17
    Re: #48
    Well, of course
    61AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:55
    So very Juice=Juice — strong as a group and in pairings, but weak individually
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:03
    Re: #61
    Comparing Ebata's bar event to Angerme's tour, same agency
    Ebata's bar event sells out faster

    Background and Points of Contention

    Hello! Project runs a major showcase where members compete individually through solo performances, and how they place there often fuels debate over the “individual MVP.” Within the thread, some posts noted that the audience-vote winner (MIP) was Sachie Tamenaga, while the member-vote MVP was Miki Nonaka — meaning the initial claims of “rigged voting” may have stemmed from confusing these two separate awards. Momoha Nagano is a relatively recent addition to Juice=Juice, and while many praised her for achieving this just half a year after her debut, plenty of others feel the MVP title can’t be separated from the group’s overall results. The disagreement reflects a broader split among fans over whether individual skill or group popularity and performance should carry more weight.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “This year’s Hello! Project individual MVP has to be Momoha Nagano, right?.”

  • Love Live Fan Lists His Hobbies — 5ch Fires Back: ‘Walking Means No Hobbies’

    A post on 5ch’s Love Live! board complained that people keep saying “Love Live fans have no hobbies besides Love Live.” The poster tried to prove otherwise by listing reading (criticism), listening to classical music, playing the viola, and going for walks, but replies were harsh, with comments like “way too pretentious, it’s blinding” and “saying ‘walking’ when asked about hobbies is basically proof you have none.” Others jumped to the poster’s defense, arguing that sitting at home doing nothing is far more hobby-less, and the thread spiraled into a debate over what actually counts as a “hobby” in the first place.

    1AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:24
    Everyone keeps saying "Love Live fans have no hobbies besides Love Live," so let me list mine.
    Reading (criticism), listening to classical music, practicing an instrument (viola), walking
    #ListingLoveLiveFanHobbies
    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:26
    Way too pretentious, it's blinding.
    4AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:30
    Love Live fans just aren't into other 2.5D content (media blending 2D characters with real-life performances) — hardly any of them actually have zero hobbies besides Love Live.
    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:33
    Re: #4
    Nah, that's not true at all.
    6AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:35
    That's just how it is — it's not something unique to Love Live.
    7AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:36
    Actually, just realized something —

    saying "walking" when someone asks about your hobbies is basically the textbook answer for having no hobbies.
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:42
    There's always a flame war brewing on the Love Live board.
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:49
    So Love Live is where guys with no personality (無キャ, "no-charisma" types) end up, huh.
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:07
    Oh damn, lol.
    22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:29
    Re: #7
    If you're actually going out and walking a set distance on your own two feet, that counts as doing something.
    The truly hobby-less ones are the people stuck at home, killing time in ways they couldn't even explain to anyone else.
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Behold, the ultimate life form: a Love Live fan who's also a train-photography otaku (撮り鉄, "train shooter").

    Background and Discussion Points

    “Love Live fan” (ラブライバー) is a nickname for fans of the Love Live! franchise, and on 5ch’s Love Live! board, fans lightly ribbing each other over hobbies and lifestyle habits is a daily occurrence. “Walking,” the target of criticism this time, is widely seen as the go-to answer for padding out a thin hobby list, since it requires no particular skill or achievement and anyone can claim it. On the other hand, some commenters credited the act of getting outside and moving one’s body, and pushed back by arguing that doing nothing at home is the truly hobby-less lifestyle — showing that people’s sense of what counts as a “hobby” varies widely. This article excludes replies whose main intent was to mock the original poster by name (including ones with attached images), and instead focuses on the exchange over how to define a “hobby.”

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Love Live Fan: “People Keep Saying ‘Love Live Fans Have No Hobbies Besides Love Live’”.”

  • Juice=Juice to Appear at ‘IRC 2026 A/W’ — Free Livestream Confirmed, 5ch: ‘Don’t Sweat It If Overseas Viewers Tune In’

    A free livestream has been confirmed for the stage featuring Juice=Juice at “IRC 2026 A/W,” an event that combines idols with a fashion show. Watching requires signing up through a dedicated app, and on 5ch, complaints about the hassle mixed with comments like “all I had to do was link my Google account.” A timetable was also shared, with the live performance expected around 12:20 PM and the runway show around 2:45 PM. Meanwhile, word that “there’s no archive” was also circulating, making whether fans could actually catch it live that day the main point of discussion.

    Juice=Juice@JuiceJuice_uf

    Free livestream confirmed for tomorrow’s “IRC 2026 A/W”🎤✨

    Watch the live performance & runway show on the IRC APP!

    Source: app.idolrunwaycollection.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:20
    Re: #1
    Yeah, true
    Guess it's an offshore company after all
    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:21
    Alright!👍
    6AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:22
    Time to go head-to-head with rival agencies on skill!
    7AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:22
    Is it actually safe to register for this?
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:23
    Re: #7
    Your info might go overseas, but don't worry about it
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:22
    So no archive, huh
    10AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:23
    Takane no Nadeshiko are small fry compared to them though
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:23
    Takaneko (nickname for Takane no Nadeshiko) is cute though
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:23
    It'll probably get uploaded on Bili(bili)
    14AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:26
    So the Dramatic Record folks aren't doing a live?
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:29
    Ugh nooooo I can't watch it!!!
    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:31
    I don't want to register so I'm skipping it
    It'll end up on YouTube ("tsube", forum slang for it) or somewhere later anyway
    18AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:31
    I'll post a direct-stream link tomorrow that doesn't need registration, so hang tight
    If I actually manage to wake up, that is👍
    50AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:52
    It was just a quick tap to link with Google
    51AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:58
    The kids who didn't make the cut for Rock in Japan?
    52AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:01
    Is there a timetable?
    53AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:05
    https://idolrunwaycollection.jp/assets/images/timetable_pc.webp?v=20260910203409
    54AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:06
    I'll watch Ishiyama's thing starting at 11, then switch over to this one at 12:30
    55AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:07
    Don't they all walk the runway together again at the end?
    56AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:10
    Probably the one starting around 2:45
    57AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:11
    Re: #56
    That's the fashion show part
    58AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:12
    Live's around 12:20 and the runway's around 2:45, I think
    59AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:13
    Next up is NiaJoy, huh
    Wonder if Ebata's friend Yamano's in this one
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:14
    Not totally sure what this event even is, but if Furuppa's in it, it's gotta be fine
    61AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:33
    So you have to register AND stay glued to it all day

    Context and Key Points of This Discussion

    “IRC” is a hybrid event pairing idols with a fashion show, apparently structured so runway appearances and live performance segments alternate. What sparked discussion this time was the requirement to register through a dedicated app just to watch, with complaints in the thread like “stop making us register for every little thing” sitting right alongside accounts like “all I had to do was link my Google account” — even the posters in the thread don’t agree on how much of a hassle it actually is. The comment “your info might go overseas, but don’t worry about it” touches on how the registration data is handled, but no source was cited to back it up, so it’s more reasonable to read it as a joke poking at that anxiety than as a statement of fact. Likewise, the claim that “there’s no archive” can’t be confirmed from any primary source, and the number of posts banking on a fallback plan (waiting for it to surface on YouTube or elsewhere later) in case they missed the live broadcast suggests the event’s official streaming policy hasn’t been fully communicated to fans.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Free Livestream Confirmed for Juice=Juice’s “IRC 2026 A/W” キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!.”

  • ‘No Singing or Dancing, No Rights’ Debate Erupts — 5ch: ‘If You Can Win on Looks, Why Sing at All?’

    Is singing and dancing ability essential for an idol, or is good looks alone enough? On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a debate broke out over exactly this question of “skill first or visuals first.” Citing examples like the Sakamichi groups succeeding on a looks-first approach, and the fact that Juice=Juice is currently the only Hello! Project group getting TV appearances, posters weighed in from every angle. The discussion reached a stalemate between the view that skill makes competing on looks unnecessary, and the view that since it’s a job where you’re constantly being watched, there’s no escaping the looks factor.

    1AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:58
    They're idols — does that stuff even matter?
    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:58
    Visuals are what matters most, no question.
    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:58
    If you think looks alone are enough, you'd do better becoming an Instagrammer or TikToker.
    4AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:00
    Just so some idiot could vent their feelings,
    they made this dead-end thread
    on purpose.
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:05
    The Sakamichi groups already proved you can pull in fans on visuals alone and get popular even if you're just swaying side to side for the singing and dancing.
    Visuals really are number one.
    18AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:06
    Re: #15
    Sakamichi already lost to Equal Love (=LOVE), though.
    19AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:07
    Juice=Juice is the only Hello! Project group that's actually made it big, so if you're in Hello! Project, becoming like Juice=Juice is basically your only option.
    That's faster than trying to overhaul Hello! Project into something like Sakamichi.
    22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:09
    Re: #19
    Everyone charging in the same direction and torching the whole field — that's K-pop-style thinking.
    Though Hello! Project had a bit of that vibe even before the whole 'mori' (flattering, heavily done-up) look became standard.
    20AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:07
    If you can win on looks alone, there's no need to sing or dance.
    Case closed.
    21AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:08
    Re: #20
    Flip side: if you can actually sing and dance, you don't need to win on looks either.
    23AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:09
    It's a job where you're constantly being watched, so there's no escaping the fact that looks are part of the competition.
    27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:13
    Re: #23
    Juice=Juice is the only one actually competing in an environment judged on looks.
    The other Hello! Project groups are only ever measured by in-house, fandom-bubble standards.
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:13
    If you line up members with top-tier looks, you can become the kind of idol group that sells out dome tours even while just lip-syncing and swaying back and forth.
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:14
    Unlike idol singers of the old days, they're just not good singers.
    35AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:22
    Re: #30
    Also, today's idols aren't actress-level good-looking — that's exactly why they're doing idol work instead.
    39AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:35
    Re: #30
    That's just because only the good ones are the ones still around today.
    Watch old streams of '8 O'clock! Everybody Gather!' (8時だョ!全員集合) and tons of B- and C-tier idols who vanished almost instantly show up — bad enough that you'll understand exactly why they got dismissed as 'jaritare' (cheap kiddie talent).
    Idols from the '90s onward have had lessons since childhood and grown up singing karaoke, so the average skill level today is way higher.
    32AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:18
    Hello! Project, picking dance 40 / singing 90 / looks 40 over dance 90 / singing 60 / looks 80.
    45AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:39
    Re: #32
    Those totals are different, so that's not even a fair comparison.
    41AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:36
    Being able to sing and dance used to be the definition of an idol.
    Hello! Project is the one that never rewrote that definition.
    Akimoto Yasushi is the one who rewrote it.

    Sakamichi idols especially are sold on the single point of having above-average looks,
    so the moment a younger talent shows up with the same trait, they're easily replaced and tossed back out into the world with no actual skills to fall back on.
    46AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:40
    Re: #41
    Right — and since there's an endless supply of replaceable talent, it's a business model where you gather a ton of them, and the moment one graduates, next.
    43AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:38
    That's not really the vibe now, is it?
    Back in the Platinum era, fans were strict enough to pick out pitch differences down to an eighth-tone.
    44AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:38
    Re: #43
    Juice=Juice right now sings better than the Platinum era or Mobekimasu ever did.
    48AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:42
    Re: #43
    No, that's not true.
    These days the correction and mixing tech used for audio and video is on a completely different level from the Platinum/Mobekimasu era.
    Looking at footage, the sound mixing back then was far worse than today's bar-event (small live-house show) footage.
    Judging by current bar-event footage, today's Juice can't hold a candle to that era.
    52AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:48
    Every group has one or two members whose looks get trashed by the general public.
    I wish they'd screen those people out when forming a group.
    73AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:09
    Re: #52
    It doesn't work without someone there to make the others look better by comparison.
    59AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:55
    Platinum, which was genuinely skill-first, was still healthy.
    These days — or really since around the 'Wanfoa' era (a specific lineup/period, exact reference unclear) — there's been this trend of praising people who don't actually have much skill.
    The problem now is it's basically become 'whoever says it first wins.'
    62AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:00
    Re: #59
    Calling that level 'skill-first' is way too embarrassing.
    61AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:59
    That's such a live-idol-fan take.
    On TV your face gets shown in close-up, so you can't just say looks don't matter.
    69AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:07
    Re: #61
    But Juice=Juice is the only Hello! Project group that actually gets on TV.
    72AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:08
    That's exactly why putting Juice=Juice on TV turned into a whole 'Kenmin SHOW' situation (a show about obscure regional/prefectural trivia — implying they came off as an oddity).
    76AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:10
    Re: #72
    Bad casting choice.
    Has to be Inoue or Ebata, nobody else works.
    79AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:12
    Oda's at least pulling off the illusion,
    whether or not she's actually good is a separate question.
    80AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:13
    Re: #79
    Even playing the graduation card didn't get her on TV, so the illusion isn't really working, is it?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    This kind of clash between the “skill camp” and the “visuals camp” has come up again and again in the idol industry since the success of the AKB48 family of groups and the Sakamichi series (Nogizaka46, Sakurazaka46, Hinatazaka46). The Sakamichi groups tend to weight their selection criteria toward looks, while Hello! Project has traditionally placed heavy emphasis on developing singing and dancing ability — and the thread’s discussion largely revolved around this contrast between the two models. What split opinion in the thread was whether it’s more sustainable to say “if looks alone can draw an audience, skill isn’t necessary,” or “if you have skill, you don’t have to depend on looks.” That said, this is ultimately just fan impressions on an anonymous message board, and it’s worth noting that no objective figures — like actual attendance numbers or CD sales — were presented in the discussion to back up either side.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Isn’t it kind of a problem that idols are expected to have “no rights” if they can’t sing and dance?“.

  • Rosy Chronicle Appears on NHK’s Asian Games PR Show — 5ch: ‘Props for Not Lip-Syncing’

    Hello! Project idol group Rosy Chronicle appeared on “Uta-Tube SPORTS FES.,” a music program broadcast on NHK General TV (Tokai region, 3 prefectures) on the morning of September 19. Tied to the opening of the Asian Games, the special aired live from Nagoya alongside Shonan no Kaze, SKE48, Sunplaza Nakano-kun, and Airi Suzuki, with Grampus-kun and Black Doala also making appearances. On the thread, users speculated about why Rosy was chosen for the slot out of all the Hello! Project groups, and buzzed about the fact that Rosy sang live with their own voices, in contrast to the lip-syncing from other groups.

    1AnonymousSep 19, 2026 07:46
    Uta-Tube SPORTS FES.
    The Asian Games have kicked off! Uta-Tube hosts a sports-themed live show, featuring the many anthems that have cheered on athletes, with appearances by Grampus-kun and Black Doala too ▼ Hosted by Teppei and Kanako Murakami
    Saturday, September 19, 8:15–9:25 AM, NHK General TV 1 / Nagoya
    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 07:56
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/2100917974656040960/pu/vid/avc1/1280×720/KvEjmzKytprJva2D.mp4

    Uta-Tube
    @nhk_utatube
    🎵Uta-Tube SPORTS FES.💪
    📺Tomorrow from 8:15 AM~, General TV ※Tokai 3 prefectures only

    Airing tomorrow❣

    Catch-up streaming available nationwide, anytime🤳
    https://web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L

    💛#SKE48
    💨#Sunplaza Nakano-kun ・ #Pappara Kawai (Bakufu Slump)
    🏖#Shonan no Kaze
    ⭐#Niihama Leon
    ❤#hitomi
    🔥#MYERA
    🌹#Rosy Chronicle

    Don't miss it🩷

    9:01 PM · September 18, 2026

    https://x.com/nhk_utatube/status/2100918036031295595
    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:16
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190816278593.jpg
    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:18
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190818382932.jpg
    6AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:19
    Nakano Sun Plaza the venue got demolished, but Sunplaza Nakano-kun (the musician who took his stage name from it) is still going strong
    Though admittedly his voice doesn't carry quite like it used to
    8AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:29
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190829098353.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190829102137.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190829103658.jpg
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:30
    Thanks to our volunteer in the Tokai region
    10AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:35
    So the person capturing this was from the Tokai region, huh
    Thanks as always
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:39
    I'm actually in Nagoya right now so I can see it live
    But why Rosy for the Asian Games PR?
    I don't get it
    Was Rosy just the Hello! Project group that happened to be free?
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:40
    There's usually one Hello! Project slot on this show
    I think it was Tsubaki last time
    Either Rosy happened to be free, or they were specifically cast
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:41
    Uta-Tube itself has been running as a music show for ages, and Hello! Project acts like Tsubaki have appeared on it often
    This is just a continuation of that, with newer groups getting the slot now
    Come to think of it, I think Airi did an Uta-Tube location shoot in Gero, Gifu at some point too
    14AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:41
    Wasn't it Juice=Juice last year, while Kawashima was on hiatus?
    16AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:43
    Re: #14
    That's right
    Now I remember
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:43
    There's SHOCK EYE, always appreciate him!
    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:52
    Is this what SKE looks like these days
    18AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:53
    As always, Shonan no Kaze's lyrics are so lightweight and shallow
    19AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:54
    Airi's up today


    ★Announcement★

    20th Asian Games
    "Live Site in ONE ASIA WORLD"
    #AiriSuzuki will be appearing✨

    📅Saturday, September 19, 2026
    📍Oasis 21 (Nagoya, Aichi)
    🎟Ticket applications open 10:30 AM, 8/17‼︎

    🔗 Details here
    livesite-in-oneasiaworld.com

    Please check it out👩🏻‍💻
    20AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:55
    Airi and Asunaru (a Nagoya shopping complex) show up around Oasis sometimes, huh
    21AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:57
    Lip-syncing again, huh
    22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:58
    LOL, can't believe I missed the Rosy-fan stage
    23AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:59
    So Sakae48 (a jokey nickname for SKE48, playing on Sakae, the Nagoya district) is still lip-syncing as usual, huh
    24AnonymousSep 19, 2026 08:59
    Visually I honestly can't tell them apart from Kawa-Labo
    25AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:01
    Everyone else is doing hometown Aichi/Nagoya talk, but I wonder what Rosy's going to talk about
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:02
    Did they segue into baseball talk via Black Doala?
    29AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:03
    Black Doala is really bombing out there
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:03
    Their turn's up
    Black Doala and the 'Batter's Box' song
    31AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:03
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190903279382.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190903281023.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190903282424.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190903283936.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190903285575.jpg
    They went with black outfits since it's Black Doala… seriously? lol
    59AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:50
    Re: #31
    Yeah that's kind of… not great
    32AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:03
    This outfit's pretty nice
    33AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:04
    Whoa, Rosy's seriously tiny lol
    34AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:04
    Props for not lip-syncing
    36AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:05
    Re: #34
    Though there's a fair amount of vocal layering going on
    39AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:06
    Belting it out, throwing in vocal riffs — yep, that's Hello! Project for you
    42AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:06
    The main act is Naji Ai, and this one's actually a Chiba Lotte Marines tie-in
    51AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:19
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190919366031.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190919367618.jpg
    Are they going down into the audience? Where's Rosy?
    52AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:22
    Re: #51
    Rosy didn't come down into the crowd — she was on stage swinging a towel behind Shonan no Kaze
    54AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:24
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190923515035.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190923516620.jpg
    Oh, true, she came out from behind them
    55AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:25
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190925000492.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190925002007.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190925003584.jpg
    https://n.picvr.net/2609190925005207.jpg
    She's so tiny, hard to see her much
    57AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:31
    ■ NHK ONE Catch-up Streaming
    Uta-Tube (2026 season)
    SPORTS FES.
    Broadcast: General TV (Tokai 3 prefectures), Saturday, September 19, 8:15 AM
    Available until: Saturday, September 26, 9:25 AM
    Featuring: Rosy Chronicle
    (Starts playback from the top of the show)
    https://one.nhk/www.web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 09:52
    Re: #57
    ■ Timestamps
    Runner (around 00:01)
    https://one.nhk/www.web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L?startOffset=0
    Fun!Fun!Fun!(around 10:44)
    https://one.nhk/www.web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L?startOffset=644
    "Where's the Batter's Box?" (around 47:07)
    https://one.nhk/www.web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L?startOffset=2827
    Suirenka (around 1:08:17)
    https://one.nhk/www.web.nhk/tv/an/nagoya-utatube/pl/series-tep-2188M7K4YG/ep/72RAESD88L?startOffset=4095

    Background and Talking Points

    “Uta-Tube” is a long-running NHK Nagoya music program that has, in past years, given one Hello! Project group a guest slot each time — Tsubaki Factory among them. According to the thread, last year’s slot went to Juice=Juice while Kawashima was on hiatus, and this time the slot fell to Rosy Chronicle. Since NHK doesn’t officially explain its casting choices, opinions on the thread were split between “they just happened to be free” and “they were deliberately cast.” The special also doubled as PR for the opening of the Asian Games: while groups with strong local ties, like SKE48 and Shonan no Kaze, leaned into hometown talk, Rosy made their mark less through local connections and more through the performance itself. Whether a group lip-syncs or not is a perennial topic on 5ch, and this time many commenters singled out praise for Rosy singing with their own live vocals. Also worth noting, per the thread, is that the broadcast was local to the Tokai region’s three prefectures, with viewers elsewhere only able to catch it via catch-up streaming.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “■ Rosy Chronicle ■ Uta-Tube SPORTS FES. ■ 08:15-09:25 NHK General TV (Tokai 3 Prefectures) ■.”

  • Original Members Are Showing Up in Sunshine and Nijigasaki Too — 5ch: ‘Liella! Is the Only One Standing on Its Own Two Feet’

    A thread on 5ch’s Love Live! board comparing how each entry in the franchise treats its original members has taken off. The thread starter kicked things off by pointing out that Hasunosora’s pre-tournament PV oddly features footage from “Snow halation” and a close-up of Kousaka Honoka, and that the “Hard-to-Live Club” (Nijigasaki) keeps dropping the names of characters from earlier shows — griping that “they’re really milking the old stuff too hard.” That set off a bigger discussion: Sunshine has had original members appearing since its very first season, and Nijigasaki features both original members and Sunshine members in its mobile game SIF All Stars. A wave of posters praised Superstar (Liella!!) as the one group that built its popularity without leaning on the original cast. The thread later spiraled into fan-vs-fan hostility between the different series, with some posts even naming and exposing a specific individual’s social media account.

    1AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:35
    Hasunosora ← for some reason their pre-tournament PV includes footage from "Snow halation" and a close-up shot of Kousaka Honoka
    The Hard-to-Live Club (a mocking nickname for Nijigasaki's idol club) ← keeps name-dropping characters from past shows, and now even Minami Kotori shows up
    They're really milking the old shows way too hard…
    2AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:37
    SIF All Stars is way too forced.
    That world has μ's, Aqours, and Nijigasaki all existing side by side at the same time, so it's not really 'reusing the past.'
    Try again.
    10AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:47
    (Re: #2)
    It's less 'treating them as past works' and more just straight-up using μ's and Aqours.
    5AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:40
    Superstar is honestly impressive for climbing to the top of Love Live's fun-factor rankings all on its own.
    6AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:42
    Star-Uncle Rule activated!

    They're not milking past works, so Star (Superstar/Liella!!) wins!
    8AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:47
    Lol, you clearly built this thread off my post.
    Whatever, fine by me lol.
    Bottom line: Liella! is the only one that's gotten this far purely on its own skill and effort.
    Though I guess Sunshine gets a pass since it's basically a direct sequel.
    9AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:47
    There's no 'now' without the past.
    Of course that's how it is for a group like Hasunosora that values tradition.
    11AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:48
    (Re: #9)
    That's just dressing up 'exploiting the past' in nicer-sounding words.
    12AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:49
    The Hard-to-Live Club rips off Aqours plenty too — the jet-ski lady, the woman from the Numazu festival, you name it.
    14AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:50
    (Re: #12)
    That's gross.
    At this rate their level of exploitation might catch up to Nijigasaki's.
    13AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:49
    Hasunosora even used it as a YouTube thumbnail.
    15AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:52
    Milking "Snow halation" at a Love Live tournament is creepy enough, and putting Honoka front and center is flat-out unacceptable.
    Nothing will ever top how precious it is that Liella won back-to-back titles purely on their own strength.
    16AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:54
    Using μ's makes it so easy to get your name out there, doesn't it.
    The fact that they lean on that easy shortcut from day one says it all.
    17AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:56
    Speaking of the casts, what did those cross-talk sessions with the μ's cast even accomplish?
    Aqours took over a year before they finally started doing them, while everyone else jumped right in.
    Were they hoping to recreate the μ's phenomenon?
    18AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:58
    Kotori's design is amazing precisely because it's by Murota Shin, but it's rough imagining her getting redrawn in that Hard-to-Live Club art style.
    Even using Kotori's name, I don't want to see her in that character design…
    Is this going to be another Kerorira situation like with Nijigasaki?
    19AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:58
    Sunshine and Superstar are the only ones whose casts have actually gone on record saying they truly love μ's.
    The others are probably fuming inside about people using μ's name without permission.
    20AnonymousSep 18, 2026 14:59
    If they end up showing a Kotori that isn't drawn by Murota… well, you know what that means, right?
    21AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:00
    Sakurauchi-san is a transfer student from μ's school.
    22AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:00
    Between the Kerorira thing and the AI controversy, the Nijigasaki/Hasunosora camp's quality is just too low.
    23AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:01
    Keep it up, Pikaere — go ahead and set the stage so people can bash Liella! to their heart's content.
    24AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:06
    Staying quiet now won't undo it.

    Thread preserved: Mercury stans (Aqours-and-Superstar fans) who hate the whole Nijigasaki/Hasunosora crowd picking fights with everyone.

    So if anyone starts screaming 'it's not fair that only Star gets bashed!' — I'll be linking this thread right back at them.
    25AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:08
    This thread isn't getting added to the keep-alive list.
    27AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:14
    Whoever keeps posting Pikaere's X (Twitter) links — I hope 5ch's admins hit you with an info disclosure request.
    29AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:39
    (Re: #27)
    This.
    That's a straight-up rights violation against Pikaere.
    28AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:35
    Is this actually something μ's fans are happy about?
    31AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:41
    So Kotori didn't become a designer after all — she became a schoolteacher?
    32AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:44
    (Re: #31)
    That's rough too.
    Her dream never even came true.
    33AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:44
    Pika-chama's praise for Star (Superstar/Liella!!) gets sloppier and more strained by the day.
    And how do they explain the fact that a work made with μ's own creative staff turned out like this in the first place?
    34AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:48
    Kimi no Sakurako Universe (the mobile-game continuity)
    μ's → Aqours → Hard-to-Live-Live
    (the Love Live tournament shrinks)

    Anime continuity
    μ's → Aqours → Liella!
    (the Love Live tournament keeps getting bigger)

    Link Like Love Live continuity
    μ's → Hasunosora
    (the tournament gets a bit smaller but keeps going)

    Nijigasaki continuity
    No consistent timeline — every series crosses over freely
    Only the anime skips the other series
    35AnonymousSep 18, 2026 15:50
    So basically, none of them except Liella! actually compete purely on their own strength.
    41AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:11
    This one got an actual 'whoa' out of people.
    43AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:24
    https://x.com/star_TF/status/2100807422340383025

    Can't even argue with that.
    59AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:52
    (Re: #43)
    Honestly, that's a fair point.
    74AnonymousSep 18, 2026 17:34
    (Re: #43)
    Sounds like a fair point, but this reeks of a Nijigasaki stan. Something's off.
    44AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:25
    Back then, the μ's diehards hated Aqours ("Mizu") so much they were desperate to prop up Nijigasaki instead.
    47AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:31
    (Re: #44)
    No matter how many excuses people come up with, it's pretty simple — people got into Nijigasaki mainly because it looked like the best bet to knock off Aqours, μ's biggest rival.
    Honestly, the reason Nijigasaki stans are bashing Star (Superstar/Liella!!) now is just because Star's become a threat to them too.
    If Nijigasaki had ended up in Hard-to-Live-Live's spot instead, with grown-up Kotori showing up, the μ's diehards would be singing its praises and converting into instant fans.
    58AnonymousSep 18, 2026 16:50
    Star wasn't nearly as blatant about it, though.
    72AnonymousSep 18, 2026 17:30
    (Re: #58)
    Not just 'not blatant' — they genuinely did it all on their own strength.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Starting with μ’s, the Love Live! franchise has run several groups and projects side by side — Aqours (Sunshine), Nijigasaki, Liella!! (Superstar), and Hasunosora — and newer entries referencing earlier characters or songs is nothing new. What split opinion in this thread was whether to read such references as “respect for tradition” or as “riding on someone else’s popularity to generate buzz,” with many posters singling out Liella!! as an example of a group that built its fanbase without leaning on its predecessors. The back half of the thread saw fan rivalries between the different series flare up, including posts naming and exposing a specific individual’s social media account — content that has been left out of this article since it could identify a private individual.

    *This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Sunshine ← original members show up from Season 1; Nijigasaki ← original members and Sunshine members show up in SIF All Stars.”

  • ANGERME’s Ise Rerapi Says ‘Dance Matters Too’ — 5ch Reacts: ‘ANGERME Is a Pirate Crew’

    ANGERME’s Ise Rerapi wrote on her blog that “I think Hello! Project values singing, but I want ANGERME to take dance just as seriously” — a remark that sparked discussion on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Given Hello! Project’s strong tradition of prioritizing vocals, her comments about her dedication to dance drew a range of reactions in the thread, from supportive posts like “ANGERME should just do things their own way” to sharper criticism such as “they say dance matters but they’re not even in sync” and “they should be judged on their singing too.” The discussion expanded into comparisons with other groups like Morning Musume ’26 and Juice=Juice, with posters likening various groups to armies, pirate crews, and more.

    I think singing matters a lot in Hello! Project,

    but I want ANGERME to take dance really seriously too (basically, I want us to be a group that can do both well) — I still want to keep working hard on that.

    Also, I really love dancing,

    Source: ameblo.jp / Read the original post here

    2AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:12
    ANGERME doesn't need to be chained to Hello! Project's crappy traditions and hangups
    ANGERME should just go their own way
    Who cares about Morning Musume or Juice=Juice, mind your own business, we've got ours
    Screw what Momusu otaku or Juice otaku think, ignore 'em
    ANGERME should walk a path that belongs only to ANGERME, Rerapi
    4AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:13
    Re: #2
    So what exactly is ANGERME's 'own path'? Give me specifics
    5AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:14
    ANGERME's dance sync is by far the best out there, come on
    6AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:14
    Didn't Endo (from the TV show) literally say ANGERME's dancing was terrible?
    7AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:14
    Morning Musume '26 is an army, Juice=Juice is an army too, BEYOOOOONDS is an army as well
    ANGERME is a pirate crew — not an army — and since they're not an army, they're not bound by Hello! Project's military code
    Tsubaki Factory is a band of mountain bandits
    8AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:15
    Are you seriously taking Endo's on-air lip service at face value? lol
    10AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:16
    You're the leader, so do it your way
    ANGERME is free
    11AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:17
    Indeed
    51AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:06
    Re: #11
    The way I see it, Shimoitani — whose dancing looks shakiest — seems to be the only one happy about this, which is kind of rough
    14AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:21
    They talk about dance dance dance, but they've got no stamina — dancing just one moderately intense number leaves them so winded they're heaving for breath
    15AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:21
    Guess Rerapi's finally starting to get the hang of dancing?
    16AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:21
    OCHA NORMA is a caravan (a trading caravan)
    Rosy Chronicle is an army
    Hello! Project Kenshuusei is a military academy
    72AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:21
    Re: #16
    How is Rosy Chronicle an army? That's basically a school club
    17AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:23
    She spent a long time being unsure, after all
    If you're gonna commit, go all in and see it through to the end
    18AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:23
    Yumikei let it slip that Hello! Project doesn't even have dance lessons
    21AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:23
    Don't say 'I want to try hard' — say that after you've actually done it
    23AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:25
    Hello! Project isn't an army
    Never heard of such a soft, lax 'army' in my life lol

    The Korean agencies where everyone lives in a dorm and drills from morning to night every single day — that's a real army

    24AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:25
    With Sasaki and Takeuchi gone, the dancing lost its appeal
    25AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:30
    Enough with the dance-focus thing already, I want to hear solid, stable singing
    27AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:31
    They should make better use of Tamenaga, who came up through a dance school
    45AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:57
    Singing like Gian from Doraemon (i.e., tone-deaf), dancing all over the place, and no real resolve — who's supposed to stan that?
    47AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:59
    Re: #45
    Rerapi's got resolve though
    48AnonymousSep 18, 2026 23:59
    (Endo said on the show she wants the dancing more in sync, so let's just brand it 'out of sync' and pile on…!)
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:12
    Re: #48
    Is there even a millimeter of an argument for listening to the feel-good opinions of ANGERME fanboys ('ankasu' — a mocking nickname for ANGERME's fandom) over an actual professional's opinion?
    50AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:06
    There's not a single member in ANGERME who dances better than Mipple (a member's nickname)
    53AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:09
    Re: #50
    Momusu-otaku detector: activated
    52AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:09
    Shimo-san isn't really a 'dance member,' she just happened to take dance lessons
    Having had lessons doesn't automatically mean you're good
    63AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:14
    Re: #52
    There are actually quite a few members who took dance lessons since childhood but get zero credit for it
    56AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:10
    They're so fixated on moving a lot that their facial expressions and stage presence rank near the bottom even by Hello! Project standards
    People say the dancing's out of sync, but the singing is so much more out of sync that the dance issues barely stand out in comparison
    61AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:12
    Re: #56
    Wow, surprised you're throwing singing into this evaluation now
    So compared to Morning Musume '26, Juice=Juice, and Tsubaki Factory, is the dancing in sync or not? Just give me your honest take on that
    57AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:10
    Even the ANGERME fanboys ('ankasu') don't seem sold on the idea that Tamenaga and Shimoitani are the 'dance members,' lol
    68AnonymousSep 19, 2026 00:19
    Re: #57
    ANGERME fans all agree Hashisako is the top dance member among the current lineup — but once she graduates it defaults to Tamenaga, and everyone's wondering what to do about that

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Hello! Project has long upheld a tradition across its groups that prioritizes “singing,” and Morning Musume and Juice=Juice are often judged more on vocal ability than on dance. Against that backdrop, Ise’s blog post — declaring that “ANGERME wants to take dance seriously too” — signaled her wish to raise dance’s importance within the group. While many in the thread welcomed the remark, opinions split sharply over how well-synced the group’s dancing actually is and how individual members’ skills stack up. Some pointed to comparisons with other groups (Morning Musume ’26, Juice=Juice, etc.) to argue that “ANGERME’s dancing still isn’t in sync,” while others countered that “of course each group has its own color.” A claim that a staff member on a TV program had pointed out sync issues with the dancing was also cited, with posters split on how seriously to take that remark. One thing readers shouldn’t mistake: these comparisons aren’t an official stance from the agency or the groups themselves — they’re purely fan impressions being traded back and forth.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Ise Rerapi: “I think singing matters in Hello! Project, but I want ANGERME to take dance really seriously too, so I want to keep working hard at it”.”