Category: Baseball

  • Shohei Ohtani’s Delayed IL Stint: US Report Claims He ‘Deceived the Team About the Severity of His Injury’

    Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani is expected to be placed on the 15-day injured list (IL) due to poor condition in his right upper arm, with manager Dave Roberts admitting the team had delayed the move, saying, “We’ve put it off as long as we possibly could.” Ohtani has been mired in a batting slump since late August and had already sat out six of the team’s last seven games before this decision, and U.S. media have reported that he concealed the severity of the injury from the club. On 5ch, the thread mixed comments showing a lack of understanding of how the IL system works, voices questioning the team’s handling of the situation, and speculation about contract clauses governing how Ohtani is used.

    Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani, 32, is expected to be placed on the 15-day injured list (IL) on the 10th (11th Japan time) due to poor condition in his right upper arm, manager Dave Roberts revealed. The move will be applied retroactively to the 8th (9th Japan time), meaning the earliest he could return is the home game against the Padres on the 23rd (24th Japan time).

    [Rare Photo] Shohei Ohtani Eating a Snack

    Ohtani has been stuck in a batting slump since late August, and it was clear something was off. He had sat out six of the team’s last seven games. Manager Roberts explained, “We want to reset, get him feeling right, and have him at his best heading into the postseason,” while admitting the call came late: “We put [the decision] off as long as we possibly could.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:39
    Heals in just two weeks? Doesn't sound like that big a deal then.
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:42
    Re: #6
    Learn how the IL actually works before you post.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:41
    Ohtani just wants to play more than anyone else. Simple as that.
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:57
    Re: #13
    He was exactly like that back with the Angels too. Makes you wonder what the Dodgers were even watching before signing him.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:51
    He's suddenly getting ripped on. Was there any warning sign for this?
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:55
    Re: #67
    US sports shows flip their take in a heartbeat anyway, so this is just business as usual.
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:57
    Re: #67
    Left knee, right upper arm, neck… and even with his knee not fully healed, he kept stealing bases and running aggressively while stuck in a long slump. Of course people are going to say "what are you doing, just rest already."
    76AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:54
    So that means the Dodgers are finished, huh.
    94AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:57
    Re: #76
    Well, the owner is… you know how that goes. The Dodgers will probably crash out in the postseason.
    85AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:56
    Re: #1
    Another one of Anonymous★'s baseball trash-talk threads, huh.
    95AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:57
    Re: #85
    Makes no sense. "Trash-talk" thread, lol.
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:59
    Re: #85
    muffin★ pulls the same kind of stunt too. So that matching typo from the other day was… (implying the two mod accounts might be run by the same person)
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:56
    Isn't this really a failure by the front office for not catching it in time?
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:59
    Re: #82
    Well, he clearly couldn't keep up his two-way act, so it's not like he was flat-out faking it — the physical toll is something nobody's ever had to handle before.
    116AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:00
    Re: #106
    What toll? He's not even playing defense, lol.
    122AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:01
    Re: #116
    Then explain why starting pitchers need four days of rest between starts.
    133AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:03
    Re: #116
    Have you ever even played baseball?
    115AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:00
    Feels like the team is just tiptoeing around Ohtani, doesn't it?
    Isn't whether he plays or not really his own call?
    132AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:03
    Re: #115
    Of course it's written into the contract — right alongside WBC participation approval, a no-trade clause, a no-minor-league-demotion clause, and so on.
    Apparently he can't even be dropped from the starting lineup without his own consent.
    153AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:06
    Re: #115
    Well, you can't deny that a ridiculous amount of Japanese money is flowing in thanks to Ohtani.
    That's why, contract and all, nobody can openly trash him and bench him for good — I get that.
    But honestly, his output this season has been nowhere close to matching his salary, and keeping a player performing this badly in the starting lineup sets a terrible example for his teammates. So at some point, yeah.
    And now with the team's first 7-game win streak of the season,
    the local media and fans are absolutely tearing into Ohtani as things stand.
    Check the related sites and you'll see.
    119AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:01
    Use this rough patch to finally learn to speak English, old man, lol.
    125AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:02
    Re: #119
    You hang in there too, old man.
    149AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:05
    Honestly, if something looked suspicious they should've just made him get a full medical exam.
    Some players are the type to push through pain no matter what, so it's the team doctor's job to stop them from doing that.
    The Dodgers are just being incompetent here.
    157AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:07
    Re: #149
    I think he probably did get his arm examined.
    That's what Roberts seemed to be implying.
    204AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:14
    Re: #149
    Back in his Angels days too, the team tried to get him to undergo a full exam and Ohtani refused.
    Not sure if refusing an exam is some special privilege just for Ohtani or something worked out with the players' union.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    MLB’s IL (injured list) is a system with a minimum 15-day stint meant to get players back on the field, and a player can be placed on it even without a serious injury. The point of contention here is why the move was delayed for so long, given that Ohtani had been in a slump since late August and had sat out six of the team’s last seven games. Opinions in the thread split between those arguing “Ohtani’s own wishes are being prioritized” or “the team is tiptoeing around him,” and those who think “the team simply failed to catch it and reacted late.” It’s worth noting that claims like “he refused a full medical exam” or “he faked being sick to skip the All-Star Game” are unconfirmed rumors, not verified facts. The details of any contract clauses covering playing time or roster moves also haven’t been officially disclosed.

    *This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Shohei Ohtani’s Delayed IL Stint: US Report Claims He ‘Deceived the Team About the Severity of His Injury’.”

  • “Stab” and “Kill”: Miyagi High School Baseball Federation Moves to Overhaul Violent-Sounding Terms, Also Weighing 7-Inning Games and Venues Beyond Koshien

    Reports say the Miyagi Prefecture High School Baseball Federation is considering revising baseball terms that sound rather violent, like “dead ball” (hit-by-pitch) and “steal” (base-stealing). At the same time, as a heat countermeasure, high school baseball is reportedly also discussing shortening games to a 7-inning format and holding matches at venues other than Koshien. On the thread, some pushed back that this is “word-policing that misses the point,” while others showed understanding for the heat measures themselves — splitting the discussion into two tracks: the merits of the terminology changes and the merits of the tournament-operation changes.

    YTV, September 11, 2026, 8:00 AM

    Right now, the Miyagi Prefecture High School Baseball Federation is considering revising baseball terms like “dead ball” and “steal.” In addition, for high school baseball, introducing a 7-inning format and holding games somewhere other than Koshien are being considered as heat countermeasures — but the proposals are drawing both support and criticism.

    ■ Reactions split on proposed baseball term changes: “This word-policing misses the point”

    Source: news.ntv.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    Forget that — go fix soccer's English terminology already (a jab likening this row to a similar fuss over anglicized soccer terms)
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    You hear guys yelling "sase, sase!" ("close the gap!") at the racetrack all the time
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    Re: #4

    That's because come-from-behind horses that blow past their rivals right at the finish line are popular — it looks so satisfying too.
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:47
    Re: #4
    In horse racing "sasu" is written 差す ("to close in/pass"), not 刺す ("to stab")
    It just means overtaking.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    If they're gonna switch to a 7-inning format, hurry up and do it already
    Give it a little while and kids will start going "wait, they used to play 9 innings?"
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    If you hold it somewhere other than Koshien in the first place, it stops being Koshien.
    And besides, the whole appeal is players drenched in sweat under the blazing sun, playing like their lives are on the line, crying their eyes out — that's the point, right?
    Would you actually be moved watching them play comfortably in some nice cool venue? You wouldn't.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    What ever happened to the "omae" ("hey you") problem with the fight songs?
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:24
    There are three domed stadiums on Honshu —
    why not just split the games across those?
    Playing in this blazing heat just isn't feasible anymore
    not for the players, not for the cheering squads.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:24
    Guess "attack" in volleyball and stuff is off the table too then.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:24
    Is there really any need to translate it into Japanese?

    They never bothered translating "offside" either.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:25
    "Caught stealing by pickoff" → "Picked off (out)"
    "Caught stealing" → "Advance denied (out)"

    That should satisfy everyone, right?
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:25
    Wonder if this'll get kids playing again like the old days lol
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:25
    Time to move the summer championship to a domed stadium in the Tokyo area already.
    Keep the spring Senbatsu at Koshien as is — make that THE one true Koshien tournament.
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:26
    Plenty of the guys actually playing are pretty rough themselves, so who cares.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:26
    Why not just do it all in English?
    Actually I haven't watched baseball in ages so I wouldn't know — do they still use terms like "double kill" (double play) and "dead ball" these days?
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:26
    They've probably changed by now, but why do baseball uniforms always look so hot to wear anyway?
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:27
    "Uncaught third strike" is the English term for furinige (a batter reaching base after a dropped third strike).
    Calling a steal "sukiari" ("there's an opening!") actually makes sense.
    Apparently tourists come watch Pacific League games, and when you explain what the words mean they get super hyped.
    So when a furinige works, they shout "Sukiii, Ariii!" lol
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:27
    Following in soccer-sensei's footsteps — how admirable.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    Three innings ought to be plenty, honestly.
    After that just settle it with a good old brawl.
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    "Out" ← feels like total rejection, needs review. "Foul" ← sounds like an unwanted child, needs review.
    "Change" ← sounds like being judged on looks, so that's a no. "Home run" ← sounds like calling someone the ultimate idiot, rejected.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:34
    Cut out the trash media's "◯-gun" (team-tier) labels too (masugomi — a snide "garbage media" pun on "mass media")
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:42
    Re: #48
    Some team's got a 4th-string squad…
    Guess it's all about having the money?
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:37
    Just like how soccer's "suicide point" got renamed "own goal,"
    maybe "dead ball" really is the one term worth fixing.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:37
    Re: #53
    Then just call it an "own ball" and call it a day.
    70AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:44
    Re: #53
    "Dangerous pitch" works fine.
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:38
    Just leave it written in katakana like now, no?
    A dead ball can genuinely be dangerous depending on the situation, so if anything it's better left as is.
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:40
    Re: #56
    So what, "SASE"? "KOROSE"?
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:45
    Just turn Koshien itself into a domed stadium already.
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:47
    Re: #72
    Simplest fix: just don't hold it.
    There's no real need to crown a national champion out of a school club activity anyway.
    76AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:48
    Re: #72
    The real problem is probably that there's so much vested interest baked in that they can't even hold it elsewhere temporarily.
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:49
    Judging by the prefectural federation's own comments, they seem fully committed to changing it.
    103AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:58
    Re: #80
    Well, local high school baseball federations are run by civil-servant teachers.
    "◯se!" (stab/kill-type chants) really isn't appropriate language for a teacher to be using.
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:53
    "Dead ball" and "one out" use the same kanji for "death" but mean completely different things — wish they'd distinguish between the two.
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:54
    Re: #89
    Let's just rename "dead ball" (死球) to "tahikyu" instead (タヒ, net slang that swaps the kanji for "death" with a softer-looking katakana spelling).
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:58
    I do think "dead ball" ought to be changed for a bunch of reasons,
    but nobody's come up with a replacement that really fits.
    111AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:01
    Re: #106
    Something with a similar ring to "jidakyu" (getting hit by your own foul ball) — "itakyu" ("pain-ball") would work just fine.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:01
    Between this and the midsummer heat thing, Koshien's really getting singled out way too much.
    122AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:08
    Re: #112
    I doubt Koshien players get all that rattled by heat.
    Whenever I pass by the grounds near a local school, I see them training like maniacs in unbelievable heat.
    Their everyday practice is honestly more brutal than Koshien itself.

    They can probably handle it because they hydrate properly and sweat it out,
    but if I tried the same thing, I think I'd just die.

    Context and Talking Points Behind This Story

    Debate over heat countermeasures in high school baseball has come up repeatedly in recent years, and operational changes — revised tournament schedules, more rest days — have already been put in place. The “terminology review” making news this time is still just at the discussion stage within a single regional body, the Miyagi Prefecture High School Baseball Federation; it’s not as though operating policy for the national Koshien tournament itself has been decided. What split opinion on the thread was that the news lumped together two different things: a proposal questioning terms like “dead ball” and “steal” themselves, and safety-focused measures — a 7-inning format, moving the venue — that directly affect player wellbeing. Many pushed back hard against the former, dismissing it as “word-policing,” while for the latter plenty of posters offered concrete alternatives, like spreading games across multiple stadiums or using domed venues, and there was little real opposition to the heat countermeasures themselves. Worth noting for clarity: replacement terms like “advance-out” and “pain-ball” were jokey suggestions that came up within the thread, not something the federation is officially considering.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Miyagi] “Stab! Kill!” — Baseball to Review Its Violent Terms? High School Baseball Also Debating “7-Inning Format” and “Venues Other Than Koshien” for Heat Countermeasures… Yes or No?“

  • Hanshin-Giants Gap Narrows to 1.5 Games — 5ch: “The Tigers Never Betray Us”

    The gap between Central League leaders Hanshin and second-place Yomiuri has narrowed to just 1.5 games, sparking heated debate on the Nanademo Jikkyou (general sports/news chat) board. The Giants are mounting their charge with a young core despite missing key players like Kazuma Okamoto and Shosei Togo, but Hanshin is still considered the stronger side in direct head-to-head matchups. The thread saw a clash between posters pointing to Hanshin’s history of “choking under pressure” and those calling the Giants’ recent struggles against Hanshin a “jinx.” Opinions also split over the string of hit-by-pitches against Morishita — some suspected intent, others chalked it up to simple wildness.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    Is this… actually happening?
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:57
    How many head-to-head games are left?
    Hanshin's been dominant in the head-to-head matchups, so it's gonna be rough for the Giants
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:59
    Re: #7
    You clearly don't know how weak Hanshin gets under pressure when it counts
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:00
    Re: #8
    The Giants' recent futility against Hanshin lately is abnormal enough to shatter that kind of jinx
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    Re: #9
    It's fine
    The Tigers (nicknamed "Chin-san") never betray us
    They're a team loved by the comedy gods
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    If they end up in 2nd place, I bet that manager's gonna start whining about the hit-by-pitches again, and I hate it
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:04
    Re: #11
    Well, it is true that things would be different if Chikamoto hadn't gone down
    Not that saying so changes anything
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    Re: #11
    But apparently Abe's coming back
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:12
    The Giants are missing Okamoto, Naoki, Togo, Iori, and Taisei, and are scraping by with young and mid-tier guys
    Hanshin's already a fully assembled team

    And the gap is only 1.5 games
    100AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    Re: #34
    Didn't their manager basically vanish too, if we're being honest?
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    I mean, the Giants are probably peaking right now while Hanshin's at their low point
    But honestly, this isn't a talent gap that should be this close to begin with
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    Re: #36
    A team that's been saying since before the season started that September is when it really matters is now at rock bottom
    That's clearly a team-management failure, any way you look at it
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:15
    Well, the Giants are just gonna lose on Saturday like usual
    They'll get taken deep by Morishita or Sato again and that'll be that
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Re: #39
    And then they'll go drop another one somewhere else, right
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    Re: #39
    Even if Hanshin wins, a 3-game swing can come right back in a week — it'll just even out in a day or two
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    Hanshin gets hit by pitches more than any other team in the league
    And Morishita gets hit more than any other batter
    No wonder people are mad
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Re: #46
    So is Morishita just bad at dodging?
    Even Ochiai's said guys who get hit just don't dodge well
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:21
    Re: #52
    Before we get into dodging or not, a pitcher who throws it right at the batter is the real problem
    Even if you're trying to set him up with a ball out of the zone, you have to throw it somewhere it won't hit him
    That's just a total lack of control
    Can't even laugh at Fujinami after this
    67AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Re: #52
    Reminds me of the Aoki situation
    Except back then it was Hanshin fans doing the criticizing
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    I'm a Giants fan, by the way, but can someone explain why other teams manage to beat Hanshin?
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #53
    They're just hitting off scrub pitchers
    Hanshin only brings their A-game against the Giants specifically
    73AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:23
    Re: #53
    They target the Giants and play a different style against them, so it's not a fair comparison
    For everyone else, once you shut down Morishita and Sato there's no other scoring threat
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:21
    Hanshin's real weakness is that they're bad against garbage bottom-feeder teams (lit. "zombie" teams already out of contention)
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:21
    Re: #58
    But other players actually dodge, which is why they don't get hit
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    Re: #62
    Do you even know baseball?
    Pitchers use inside pitches to set up strong hitters
    It's just a difference in the sheer number of inside pitches they see
    Weaker hitters don't get pitched inside as much
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Re: #58
    So with that "amazing control," beaning Ryuku and sniping Maki was intentional too, huh
    They admitted hitting Oshiro on purpose too, and that one seems way worse
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    Re: #71
    ?
    What are you even talking about?
    85AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    I mean, Hanshin still has a ton of games left
    Even if the Giants pull off a miracle run, Hanshin just has to keep winning normally to take the pennant
    87AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #85
    That makes the "miracle" worthless then
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    Re: #85
    With Fujikawa working the pitching staff to the bone, the bill might come due and they could drop a bunch of games in the games they have left

    Not sure why they didn't pull Takahashi yesterday — maybe the bullpen's in bad shape
    98AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:29
    Re: #85
    This whole situation exists because Hanshin can't win on their own

    If Hanshin wants the pennant, go earn it yourselves
    It's pathetic for a supposed champion to just sit there hoping their rival loses
    109AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:35
    Their closer's the only thing carrying them, so why are they even still in the race?
    111AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:37
    Re: #109
    Whether it's good managing or just luck aside,
    They're winning way more one-run games than everyone else, aren't they?
    115AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:40
    Given how the pennant race actually works, the most important thing is building up a team you're good against and never dropping those games
    118AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #115
    That was Ochiai's philosophy too
    117AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    No matter how much they close the gap, it'll just end with them getting crushed again in the head-to-head
    The Giants are gonna lose the next 3-game series too, right?
    I already know how this goes
    120AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:42
    Re: #117
    There aren't any more Hanshin-Giants series left, actually

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Hanshin has generally held the edge in recent head-to-head matchups against the Giants, and that point came up again and again in the thread. That said, this season’s 1.5-game gap comes with the Giants missing key players like Kazuma Okamoto and Shosei Togo, making the situation hard to sum up through simple roster comparisons alone. The debate over hit-by-pitches split between those who saw intent behind the high number of times Morishita has been hit and those who put it down to simple wildness — something that can’t be settled from forum posts alone. Posters also raised concerns that Hanshin’s pitching staff is being overworked, and debated how the large number of remaining games might affect the final standings, with a general consensus in the thread that the race will ultimately be decided by how the rest of the season plays out.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from a 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyou G) thread titled “All Hanshin-Kyojin, Game Gap 1.5 (a pun on the comedy duo “All Hanshin-Kyojin”) wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Central League: Giants 5-3 Dragons [9/10] — Giants Win Again as Martinez Nails 250th Save vs. Chunichi, Izumiguchi’s Go-Ahead Hit Sinks Dragons

    In Central League play on September 10, the Yomiuri Giants edged the Chunichi Dragons 5-3 to extend their winning streak. Izumiguchi’s go-ahead hit turned the game, and closer Raidel Martinez notched career save No. 250 against Chunichi — the very team he once closed games for. 250 saves is generally seen as the benchmark for Meikyukai (Golden Players Club) induction, and reaching it against his old team drew a wave of congratulations on the 5ch live-commentary board. Meanwhile, the gap to first-place Hanshin narrowed to 1.5 games, and the thread was split over how to read the magic number given the games remaining, worries about Hanshin’s lineup, and opinions on managerial strategy in the pennant race.

    Chunichi 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 |3

    Giants 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 X |5

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:04
    IT'S A WIN, BABY! HERE IT COMES! ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:04
    Hashigami's a great manager —
    he really knows how to mix veterans and youngsters.
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    The Giants won again today, so my sweet bean-paste bread tastes great (o^∀^o)
    108AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:42
    Re: #11,80,89,92
    Hey, quit copy-pasting! (calling out repeated/copied posts)
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    Insane that Rai-Maru nails his 250th save — the Meikyukai benchmark — against the Chuni-Dora (Chunichi Dragons), of all teams
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #12
    Best way possible to repay his old team!
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    Manager Inoue messed with the lineup the very day after a win and wrecked the whole team.

    That's just not it — I don't even want to see his face next year!
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    Down to a 1.5-game gap now? Hanshin's done for.
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:06
    Chunichi's bench should've congratulated him too.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:06
    Congrats to Raidel on 250 saves!
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:07
    Don't they still give out the Meikyukai blazer?
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:10
    Re: #20
    He'll probably get it later.

    Same with Tanaka (Ma-kun) — Sakamoto presented it to him afterward too.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:07
    1.5-game gap.
    Only 2 games left head-to-head with Hanshin.
    Effectively more like a 3.5-game gap.
    No need for Hanshin to panic yet.
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    Re: #22
    Exactly this — the real gap is bigger than the standings show.
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    Re: #22
    The problem is those 2 games aren't back-to-back, they're spread out.
    Fine if they win as planned, but if they lose there's no way to make it up.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:08
    The day a Meikyukai member passed away, a new one was immediately added to the club.
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:09
    Re: #23
    Harimoto (the Meikyukai chairman) only died yesterday, you know.
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:12
    Finally down to 1.5 games!

    I'm a Hanshin fan, but something's off with this team.
    Morishita in particular is only swinging for home runs. Fujikawa leaves his starters in way too long, and he keeps running out veterans like Itohara and Nishi who don't belong on the active roster.

    Honestly, Hanshin fans don't even want back-to-back titles that badly.

    Because you know we'll just get crushed by SoftBank anyway.
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    Re: #39
    We do want it though —
    hoping for back-to-back titles.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    Re: #39
    I don't even care if we lose in the finals, I just want the pennant.
    What's the point of those scrub Giants ("kyokasu," a common 5ch slur for the team) winning anything?
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:13
    Only 2 games left and just 1.5 back — why hasn't the magic number disappeared yet?
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #45
    Because Hanshin still has 20 games left, so their magic number is 17.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    Guess for Chunichi, the newspaper-company alliance (Chunichi Shimbun & Yomiuri) matters more than the Dragon-Tiger alliance…
    (´・ω・`)
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    Re: #56
    Kind of like Nobunaga picking Ieyasu over Hideyoshi, huh?
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    If Hashigami wins the pennant with this much of a talent gap and then steps down, he'll be a legend.
    Worth watching how the Giants handle his future after this.
    88AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #61
    Even if they don't win it all, coming close would be something.
    But getting demolished by Hanshin every time is a problem.
    If interim skipper Hashigami keeps fighting through the regular season and the Climax Series, he might get bumped up from acting manager to full manager.
    As a fan of another Central League team, I'm honestly grateful whenever the Giants stick to their one-track "homegrown players only" managerial policy — it's a nice handicap for them.
    But if Hashigami becomes full manager, that's the end of the homegrown-only tradition, and the Giants lose that self-imposed handicap going forward (´・ω・`)
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Okamoto, Yoshikawa,
    Sugano, Griffin, Togo, Yamazaki Taisei —
    if even one of them had stayed healthy, they'd have run away with the pennant easily.
    86AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #62
    Okamoto, Sugano, and Griffin are all healthy though.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    1 Hanshin ◯×16 Magic Number: 17
    2 Giants ○×13
    3 Yokohama (DeNA) ●×4
    4 Tokyo (Yakult) ●×15
    5 Chunichi ●×17
    6 Hiroshima ●×19
    87AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #65
    Guess it's basically decided for the BayStars only (last place, that is).
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Giants are gonna pull off the comeback pennant for sure.
    Hanshin's just too weak.
    83AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Re: #78
    Sounds like a team full of guys only thinking about their own stats — wide open for the taking.
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    200+ career saves (※ = active)

    407 Iwase Hitoki
    381 Daimajin (Sasaki Kazuhiro) (incl. 129 in MLB)
    313 Takatsu Shingo (27 in MLB)
    258 Hirano Yoshihisa (8 in MLB) ※
    250 Masuda Naoya ※
    250 Martinez ※
    246 Yamazaki Yasuaki ※
    245 Fujikawa Kyuji (2 in MLB)
    237 Matsui Yuki (1 in MLB)
    234 Saphate
    234 Kobayashi Masahide (6 in MLB)

    MLB 400+
    652 Rivera
    601 Hoffman
    494 Jansen ※
    478 Smith
    441 Kimbrel ※
    437 Rodriguez
    424 Franco
    422 Wagner
    400 Chapman ※
    105AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #84
    Matsui Yuki should've stuck it out in Japan a bit longer before heading to the US.
    112AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:45
    Re: #105
    Matsui wasn't even a closer to begin with.
    He got shelled as a starter and somehow ended up closing games before anyone noticed.
    I doubt most people even know his save total.
    94AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:33
    Raidel, Ogasawara —
    Seriously, shouldn't there be player compensation for a trade like this? Kind of a buzzkill.
    101AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:37
    Re: #94
    I'll throw in Richard (as compensation).

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    For pitchers, 250 saves is generally treated as one benchmark for Meikyukai (Golden Players Club) induction, and Martinez reached that mark against Chunichi — the team he himself closed games for until just a few years ago. As a reference point for how converted closers stack up, the thread cited a list of career save totals, which drew plenty of interest. On the pennant race, the Giants have closed the gap with Hanshin to 1.5 games, but posters also noted that Hanshin’s larger number of remaining games means the magic number won’t drop right away — a nuance that’s easy to overlook if you look only at the raw game difference. Note: several posts making sweeping, disparaging generalizations about residents of a specific region have been excluded from this article.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Baseball] Central League: Giants 5-3 Dragons [9/10] — Giants Win Again as Martinez Nails 250th Save vs. Chunichi, Izumiguchi’s Go-Ahead Hit Sinks Dragons“.

  • SoftBank Wins Third Straight — Matsumoto Haru Notches 10th Victory, Yanagita’s Two Homers Down Fighters 3-2

    In Pacific League action on September 10, SoftBank defeated the Nippon-Ham Fighters 3-2 to claim their third straight win. Starter Matsumoto Haru allowed just one run over five innings to pick up his 10th victory of the season, while Yanagita hit two home runs in the game and Masaki also went deep in a high-scoring slugfest. SoftBank’s record against the Fighters this season has now stretched to 5 wins, 18 losses, and 2 draws, and some posts brought up manager Shinjo’s preseason declaration of a ’96-win’ target. The thread was dominated by sarcastic remarks about the growing gap and banter between fans of both teams.

    Nippon-Ham  0 0 1  0 0 0  0 1 0|2

    SoftBank . 0 1 1  1 0 0  0 0 X|3

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:44
    This isn't even 'SoftBank's dog' territory anymore! (a jab implying Nippon-Ham is now worse than just being a reliable easy win for SoftBank)
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:44
    So close, just needed one more push…
    yeah, it's brutal
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:44
    Shinjo: "This year we're aiming for 96 wins. Seriously, I mean it. Honestly I want to say 100, but I'll modestly say 96. Look forward to it."

    Okada: "But SoftBank isn't even that strong."
     Shinjo: "Exactly!"
     (Everyone bursts out laughing)


    Shinjo: "Does the Hawks' slogan 'Zenshin' mean 'beat Shinjo in everything'?" (a pun — 全新 sounds like 全て新庄に勝つ, "beat Shinjo at everything")

    Kiyomiya: "This year, we're winning by an overwhelming margin."
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:45
    Re: #20
    Shinjo: "This year we're (SoftBank is) aiming for 96 wins. Seriously, I mean it. Honestly I want to say 100, but I'll modestly say 96. Look forward to it."

    Okada: "But (for Nippon-Ham,) SoftBank isn't that strong."
     Shinjo: "Exactly!"
     (Everyone bursts out laughing)


    Shinjo: "Does the Hawks' slogan 'Zenshin' mean 'beat Shinjo in everything'? (I mean, we'll obviously win some games)"

    Kiyomiya: "This year, (the Hawks) are winning by an overwhelming margin."
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:45
    Leaving Otsuka in and pinch-hitting for Gunji lol
    Shinjo: "I raised these young guys myself"

    lmaooooo
    67AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    Re: #22
    Re: #34
    Don't pass off fabrications as facts.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:45
    Hakata Hanamaru: "The Hawks are disliked by a lot of people nationwide, so I don't bring up the Hawks on national broadcasts."

    A line from 'Downtown's Bar Hopping' a few years back

    If you've ever left Fukuoka, you'll know this is true
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:46
    Cleanup hitter Nomura:
    takes a called strike right down the middle — an old 'Mino-san' special (vintage NPB slang for watching a hittable pitch sail by)
    grounds into a double play with a scoring chance on
    pops out in foul territory on the very first pitch
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:46
    [SoftBank] Arihara Kohei's transfer "extremely regrettable," says front office director — club reportedly tried to keep him with an offer topping Nippon-Ham's
    https://www.nikkansports.com/m/baseball/news/202512250001052_m.html?mode=all

    >GM Mikasa said, "We wanted him to stay," and continued retention talks with an offer exceeding Nippon-Ham's, but it fell through.

    Embarrassing to post as a casual fan lol
    ↓↓↓
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1784547291/186

    186 Anonymous 2026/07/21 (Tue) 17:20:37.19 ID:4YnZluvm0
    Nippon-Ham's offer for Arihara was way better, actually
    Embarrassing to be such a casual fan, Ham-trash boy
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:46
    Kiyomiya: "This year, we're winning by an overwhelming margin." ← now nearly 10 games back lol
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:46
    181 km/h exit velocity on Yanagita's first homer, lmao (that's about 112 mph)
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:47
    To think they're losing worse than the Orix team they called "SoftBank's dog" last year
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:47
    There's a real chance Nippon-Ham is intentionally tanking the regular season just to peak for a Japan Series run
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:48
    Matsumoto Haru: "Thanks to Gīta and Masaki, I made it to double digits (10 wins)." (Gīta is Yanagita's nickname)
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:48
    Honestly, they deserve being called SoftBank's "easy mark" or "dog" at this point. Are they even trying?
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:48
    Re: #1
    Pitching decisions
    Winning pitcher: SoftBank — Matsumoto Haru (10-3, 0 SV)
    Losing pitcher: Nippon-Ham — Kato Taka (11-3, 0 SV)
    Save: SoftBank — Sugiyama (1-2, 30 SV)
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:49
    Something's seriously wrong when they can't win by this much of a margin
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:53
    Re: #51
    The one who's off is Shinjo
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:54
    Re: #51
    The umps have been way too brutal ("benpire" — slang blending "toilet" and "umpire" for a terrible ump)
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:49
    Maybe the gap won't close because Orix has a secret Nippon-Ham sleeper unit embedded in it (joking conspiracy-meme reference)
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:49
    Winning on three home runs — that's usually the Fighters' whole thing, they basically stole their own opponent's playbook. All hail Gīta.

    Background and talking points

    SoftBank’s season record against Nippon-Ham has widened to 5 wins, 18 losses, and 2 draws, driven largely by the gap in pitching stability and the raw power of SoftBank’s lineup. Matsumoto Haru picked up his 10th win of the season on this day, and Yanagita’s two-homer performance shows just how directly the team’s core players are driving results. On the other hand, it’s worth noting that manager Shinjo’s preseason talk of “96 wins” was more a rallying cry delivered in the excitement of the season opener than a formal target declaration. The thread was full of taunting rooted in the lopsided head-to-head record, but much of that back-and-forth amounted to rivalry-driven mudslinging between fan bases — this article focuses mainly on the excerpts relevant to the actual game.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Pacific League H 3-2 F [9/10] Hawks win third straight, Matsumoto Haru 5 innings 1 run, Yanagita 2 HR, Masaki HR, Nippon-Ham vs Hawks now 5-18-2“.

  • Giants’ Sakamoto 14 doubles from Tatsunami’s NPB record — 5ch: “He just hit one!”

    On September 10, 2026, 5ch’s “Hello! Project” board lit up over live commentary on the Giants-Dragons game at Tokyo Dome. While fans grumbled about Dragons pitcher Kanamaru giving up a hit off his curveball for the second straight game, the real focus of the thread was Yomiuri Giants star Hayato Sakamoto’s doubles total. He’s managed just 4 so far this season, a steep drop from his 29 in 2023, but posters reacted to the note that he’s now just “14 doubles away” from Kazuyoshi Tatsunami’s all-time NPB doubles record. Skepticism about whether he’ll actually get there mixed with jokes like “he just hit one!” and “he’ll get there next year as a DH.”

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:41
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 130
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:41
    Tokyo Dome
    Starting Lineups
    【Giants】  【Dragons】
    4 Urata     4 Fukunaga
    8 Cabbage  6 Muramatsu
    3 Dalbec  7 Hosokawa
    2 Oshiro   3 Sano
    5 Sakamoto   5 Ishikawa
    6 Izumiguchi  8 Hanada
    7 Matsumoto  9 Fukumoto
    9 Sasaki   2 Ishii
    1 Inoue  1 Kanamaru
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:52
    IT'S HEEERE━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    Throwing Dalbec a soft breaking ball is asking for trouble
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    Homered in back-to-back games, IT'S HEEERE━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    This one's in the bag
    Heading to Mamy Mart (a local supermarket chain — i.e., "I can leave now, game's decided")
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    Should've had this batting order from the start
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    If he's gonna throw that pitch, he needs to keep it lower or he won't get the swing-and-miss
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:54
    Send Kanamaru down to the minors for a tune-up already, anyone could hit that garbage
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:54
    Miso (self-deprecating nickname Chunichi/Nagoya fans use for their own team) makes the same curveball mistake two days running
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:54
    They say Kanamaru's just snakebit, but isn't he just an overrated first-round pick?
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:55
    SA-KA-MO-TO! Dome run! (dom-dom-dom!) Dome run! (dom-dom-dom!)
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:56
    Sakamoto, 14 doubles from Tatsunami's record? No way that's happening
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:57
    Re: #33
    He just hit one though
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:58
    Re: #33
    He'll get there next year as a DH
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:56
    Kanamaru was a consolation pick, and Ihara — the consolation pick's consolation pick — is the biggest bust of all
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:57
    Sakamoto's doubles
    2023: 29
    2024: 14
    2025: 10
    2026: 4
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:58
    Because the acting manager already said something like "we've got lefties covered"
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:58
    He's good at sitting on the low forkball/changeup and still connecting on the breaking ball once he's down in the count
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:59
    Miso's useless
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:01
    Re: #44
    The problem is they can't beat anyone except us
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:59
    No way he gets those 14 doubles off pinch-hit at-bats alone
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:00
    Re: #45
    He's in the starting lineup today though
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:00
    Classic Inoue, letting them tie it right back up
    132AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:09
    Re: #54
    It always comes down to this, huh
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:02
    No outs already? Don't let them come back and take the lead
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:02
    Re: #63
    It's fine
    It's Rokuryu
    75AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:03
    imgur.com/a/WM7FsTs
    97AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:05
    Let's make this happen
    129AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:09
    Guess I'll mute it…
    137AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:09
    Re: #129
    Good luck multitasking! (i.e., not really watching the game)
    146AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:11
    Turns out there was no Harry Boost after all!
    151AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:11
    Re: #146
    Typical, our team never wins games like this
    148AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:11
    If Izumiguchi had just gotten one out, they could've held on
    162AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:14
    Re: #148
    Kadowaki would've turned that into two outs
    156AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:13
    Guess an intentional walk for Ishii was also on the table
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:13
    Re: #156
    Sure, if the bases weren't loaded

    Background and Talking Points

    Kazuyoshi Tatsunami finished his playing career with 487 doubles, the most in NPB history, so even by simple arithmetic Sakamoto still needs a substantial number more to match him. Looking at the year-by-year doubles totals posters cited (29 in 2023 → 14 in 2024 → 10 in 2025 → 4 in 2026), the clear downward trend explains why many in the thread were skeptical he’d ever catch up. The “he’ll get there next year as a DH” joke, meanwhile, plays off the fact that Sakamoto has kept playing the field despite the physical toll, implying a DH role would free up more playing time and spare his body. How close Sakamoto actually gets to Tatsunami’s record will depend on his games played and hitting output going forward — nothing in this thread amounts to a definitive prediction.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 131.”

  • SoftBank Chairman Sadaharu Oh Mourns Lifelong Rival Isao Harimoto: ‘Go to Heaven with Your Head Held High’

    In a thread on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, comments spread after SoftBank chairman Sadaharu Oh (86) — born the same year as Isao Harimoto and a fellow rookie from the same draft class — offered a tribute following Harimoto’s death on September 9, saying he hoped Harimoto could “go to heaven with his head held high.” Oh and Harimoto were lifelong friends who, after Harimoto’s 1976 transfer to the Yomiuri Giants, formed the famous “OH Cannon” batting duo and helped power the Giants to their first championship under manager Shigeo Nagashima. On the thread, some users found the phrase “with his head held high” an odd choice of words for a tribute, while others reminisced about Harimoto’s playing days and shared updates on Chairman Oh’s current health.

    Thu, 9/10, 2:36 PM

    SoftBank chairman Sadaharu Oh (86) mourned the sudden loss of his old friend Isao Harimoto, who passed away on September 9, in comments made on the 10th.

    Both were born in 1940 and turned pro the same year, in 1959. In 1976, Harimoto transferred from the Nippon-Ham Fighters to the Yomiuri Giants, where he and Oh formed the famed “OH Cannon” batting duo, hitting .355 with 22 home runs and 93 RBIs that season. He contributed to manager Shigeo Nagashima’s first championship that same year. The following season, in 1977, he posted a .348 average with 24 home runs and 82 RBIs, driving the team to another league title.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:01
    No way he's going to heaven lol
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:19
    Re: #3
    There's no heaven or hell. You just become nothing.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:03
    Can you really get into heaven by sneaking in with your head down??
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:07
    Something about that phrasing rubs me the wrong way.
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:04
    Re: #10
    'With your head held high' sounds like something you'd say to encourage someone who's been badmouthed by people, doesn't it?
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:08
    Surprising that with such a dominant all-time hit record, he only led the league in hits 3 times.
    Lower than I'd have guessed.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:08
    I wonder if Harimoto even believed in heaven?
    If he didn't, then please don't send him somewhere he'd have hated.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:11
    Honestly, I never expected Oh himself to live this long.
    Glad to see he's doing well.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:19
    Re: #17
    When he came back as manager after having his entire stomach removed for cancer, you'd often see him looking unwell, probably from food getting stuck in his esophagus.

    There was even an away game at Chiba Marine Stadium where his face suddenly turned ashen mid-game and he retreated to the back of the dugout and never came back — the head coach had to step in as acting manager.

    He ended up resigning as manager that same offseason and moved into a front-office role.

    Looking back on that, it's amazing how well he's doing now.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:12
    The way he phrased it makes it sound like Harimoto had something to feel guilty about.
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:13
    Guess the general public doesn't picture him as someone who could 'hold his head high.'
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:15
    > Sadly he's been called to heaven, but I hope he can go there with his head held high (Re: #1)
    Wait, was Harimoto even Christian?
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:20
    Both Oh and Harimoto faced a lot of discrimination back in their day and share that common hardship, so I think there's a real bond between them.
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:20
    How do we even know he's going to heaven?
    Not after mocking people the way he did.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:20
    Chairman Oh's still walking around fine on his own and sharp as ever — he even shows up to the draft meetings. Guy looks like he'll live to 100.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:21
    Guess it's pretty easy to get into heaven.
    67AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:36
    Re: #31
    As the saying goes, 'even a wicked man attains salvation — never mind a good one' (a sarcastic twist on the famous Buddhist teaching about salvation)
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:22
    'With your head held high' feels a little off lol.
    Not really a phrase you'd normally use about someone who's passed away.
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:37
    Re: #32
    During the 'Monaoka' scandal, Oh reportedly said something off-topic like 'What about the ¥9,800 hotel?' — he has a habit of dropping slightly odd comments sometimes.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:24
    Wish Harry (Harimoto's nickname) could've retired as a Giant — why did the Giants ever let him go?
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:24
    > I hope he can go to heaven with his head held high

    Did he do something lol
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:26
    I figured he only joined the Giants once he was already a veteran past his prime, but that batting average is insane!
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:28
    That's the kind of thing you'd say about someone who caused a scandal.
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:44
    Good timing for Oh moving over to Daiei — now he's chairman of a perennial championship franchise.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:09
    Re: #42
    Apparently it took some courage to leave the Yomiuri Group.
    Glad the Son family (Masayoshi Son, SoftBank's founder) has taken good care of him.
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:25
    This was a slip of the tongue from Oh, right?
    'With his head held high'??? …Makes no sense.
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:25
    Re: #59
    Isn't it just meant like 'with pride for the incredible records he left behind'?
    Oh's word choices are sometimes a bit '?' but it's nothing to worry about.
    More importantly, can someone post that photo of Harimoto leaping for joy behind Oh right after he hit his 756th home run?
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:03
    https://imgur.com/a/9LzKZKl

    That reminded me of this incident —
    this was also a case where a Carp fan charged at Oh and Harimoto stepped in to protect him.
    Oh was probably grateful for that too.
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:18
    Re: #76
    What a wild era that was lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Isao Harimoto holds the all-time NPB record with 3,085 career hits. After transferring from the Nippon-Ham Fighters to the Yomiuri Giants in 1976, he and Chairman Oh formed the famous “OH Cannon” duo and helped power the team to league championships. The phrase that sparked discussion here — “I hope he can go to heaven with his head held high” — split the thread between users who felt it sounded like it implied Harimoto had something to be ashamed of, and those who read it more charitably as a tribute to his record-breaking career. Harimoto’s post-retirement years were also marked by controversies, including a reported dispute with a taxi driver, and some of that past coverage seems to have colored how people read into Oh’s choice of words this time. Meanwhile, longtime fans also expressed renewed surprise and respect that Chairman Oh remains active as team chairman despite having battled stomach cancer in the past.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “SoftBank Chairman Sadaharu Oh: ‘I Hope He Can Go to Heaven with His Head Held High’ — Mourning Lifelong Friend and Classmate Isao Harimoto.”

  • Who’s the Best Defensive Shortstop in NPB History? 5ch Says Makoto Kosaka Tops the Defensive Rankings

    The question “Who’s the best defensive shortstop in NPB history?” sparked a lively debate on the Nandemo Jikkyo board (a general live-discussion board on 5ch). Someone posted aggregated shortstop defensive stats spanning 1950 to 2020, showing Makoto Kosaka atop the all-time defensive runs rankings, while others pointed out that Yasumitsu Toyoda comes out on top once multiple metrics are combined. Among active players, opinions split over whether Saitama Seibu’s Sosuke Genda or Shuhei Takizawa is better, and names like Hayato Sakamoto and Kazuo Matsui also came up, turning the thread into a debate spanning legendary greats and current stars alike.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:17
    Is it gonna be Takashi Toritani?
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:21
    Takizawa's better than Kosaka
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:23
    Re: #15
    No way.
    Even now he's only slightly better than current Genda.
    If that's the case, peak Genda would still be better.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:22
    If we're talking current players, isn't Takizawa the most amazing?
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:23
    Re: #17
    Doubt it — probably nobody does.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:27
    Re: #17
    Genda's still better even now though
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:26
    Career Shortstop Defensive Stats [1950-2020]
    Defensive runs per 1000 innings shown alongside. "Est. Inn" = estimated defensive innings.
    Rank Player Runs /1000 Est.Inn Years Active Basic Fielding Stats Fielding% Est.RF
    1st Makoto Kosaka 221.7 22.9 9677 innings 13 yrs 1997-2010 1901 PO 3756 A *93 E .984 5.26
    2nd Kenji Koike 174.8 15.0 11621 innings 14 yrs 1961-1974 2527 PO 4107 A 230 E .966 5.14
    3rd Hayato Sakamoto 168.6 11.0 15257 innings 14 yrs 2007-2020 2687 PO 5419 A 173 E .979 4.78
    4th Yoshio Yoshida 151.6 10.4 14578 innings 17 yrs 1953-1969 2969 PO 5242 A 327 E .962 5.07
    5th Chusuke Kizuka 144.5 18.6 7760 innings 10 yrs
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:32
    Re: #23
    Sakamoto ranks this high on defense alone?
    Guess that settles it — Sakamoto's the greatest shortstop ever then.
    I thought it'd be Matsui.
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:36
    Re: #40
    Yeah, I thought it'd be Matsui too.
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:38
    Re: #40
    For reference, Yasumitsu Toyoda is #1 overall on the combined shortstop metrics.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:28
    Re: #25
    He's not actually that good — he just racked up a ton of innings.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:31
    Re: #30
    Were you on a baseball team, by any chance?
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:30
    Oh sorry, this is about shortstops.
    For second base, Kanya Tanaka is way ahead of everyone else, right?
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:31
    Re: #32
    He's way behind Ogawa though
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:31
    Re: #32
    Maybe Morimichi Takagi
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:32
    Re: #32
    Isn't it Ryosuke Kikuchi?
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:32
    Re: #36
    I played through college
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:33
    Re: #39
    Well then, I can't really argue with that.
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:32
    Wasn't Kosaka's arm weak though?
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:34
    Re: #43
    How do I put it… I remember his throws being kind of shaky.
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:34
    Re: #43
    His arm was strong — it was more his control that was off.
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:38
    Among current players, Lotte's Tomosugi also gets by on defense alone.
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:40
    Re: #61
    He's too frail — won't even last a full season.
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:39
    Re: #59
    What metric are you using?
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:42
    Re: #62
    WAR and RC Win
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:42
    I think Orix's Sou has the strongest infield arm in NPB right now.
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:43
    Re: #70
    Why are Sou's throws so clean?
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:44
    Re: #70
    Guess that's why he's got an S-rank arm stat in Power Pros lol (the baseball video game's player-rating system)
    83AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:51
    If foreign players count, it's gotta be the Tigers' Arias.
    92AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:59
    Re: #83
    Wasn't he a first baseman?
    91AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:58
    I hear Kosaka's name a lot, but what about Matsui?
    94AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:00
    Re: #91
    On defense alone, he's a step below Kosaka.
    102AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:05
    No joke, it's gotta be the Carp's Yano.
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:06
    Re: #102
    He was amazing for a stretch, but it didn't last long.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    There are several metrics for quantifying defensive skill, and both the “defensive runs” figure and the Range Factor (RF) posted in the thread can shift rankings depending on how they’re calculated. Evaluations of the same player can flip depending on which metric is used — in the thread itself, opinions diverged over whether Yasumitsu Toyoda or Hayato Sakamoto deserved the “best overall” spot. Defensive stats are also heavily shaped by innings played, meaning players who held the same position for a long time tend to rack up bigger cumulative numbers, which makes it hard to crown the best defender on career totals alone. In recent years metrics like UZR and DRS, which account for batted-ball direction, have come into use, but no such data exists for players from earlier eras, so cross-era comparisons need to be read with that caveat in mind.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Who’s the best defensive shortstop in NPB history.”

  • Shohei Ohtani Lands on the IL for First Time in 3 Years — Manager Roberts: ‘We’ll Use the 15 Days to Reset His Body’

    Dodgers pitcher/DH Shohei Ohtani was placed on the injured list (IL) on the 9th (10th Japan time) — his first IL stint since September 2023. After striking out in four straight at-bats against the Cardinals on September 2nd, he sat out four games before returning to the lineup on the 7th, but his form still hadn’t come back, prompting manager Dave Roberts to explain that they wanted to “use these 15 days to reset his body once.” On 5channel threads, speculation ran wild over the cause of his slump this season and how he’ll be used going forward, with the discussion spilling over into debate about the future of his two-way career.

    <Dodgers 14-1 Reds> ◇September 9 (10th Japan time) ◇Dodger Stadium

    Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32) is headed to the injured list (IL) for the first time since September 2023. Manager Dave Roberts revealed the news after the game, saying, “We’re putting Shohei on the IL. We want to use the 15 days to reset his body once and get his form back up.”

    In the September 2nd game against the Cardinals (3rd Japan time), he struck out in four straight at-bats starting from his third plate appearance. He then sat out the next four games in a row. He returned to the starting lineup on the 7th, but with no improvement in his form, he was placed on the IL.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:51
    Re: #1
    Go start a soccer thread instead.
    198AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:18
    Re: #15
    Tell that to Tetsu Chiizu Karasu (a notorious 5ch copypasta persona associated with sports-thread spam).
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:51
    Isn't it his knee that's busted? He's done for the season, no?
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:51
    I wonder if he can even train during his IL stint.
    Unless they come up with some countermeasure for AI and other pitch-prediction/scouting tools, he'll be useless even when he's back.
    And if he's pitching, it'll just be relief duty — mop-up duty in blowout losses, no less.
    What a humiliation.
    152AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:11
    Re: #23
    Yeah, he can.
    Diaz already pulled a mysteriously-timed IL stint to free up a pitcher's roster spot for the adjustment.
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:52
    The haters kept saying 'he's not going on the IL, so he must be faking it,' remember?
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:53
    Re: #24
    Your Japanese is so shaky it's hilarious lololololol
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:52
    You'd think the pros would have his diet dialed in — is Ohtani seriously out of shape?
    Or is he hurt and just can't train?
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:56
    Since they dragged their feet on this decision, his return's probably gonna be delayed too.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:59
    Re: #48
    He should've taken a page from Snell's book. (fellow Dodgers pitcher Blake Snell)
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:00
    Guess the Dodgers' winning streak is unstoppable now that Ohtani's on the IL. (sarcasm)
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:01
    Re: #72
    That's probably just because they're only facing bottom-feeder teams for the rest of the regular season.
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:00
    Roki's coming back soon, so I'll be rooting for him instead. (pitching prospect Roki Sasaki)
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:01
    Re: #76
    Wasn't he already playing in games?
    90AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:02
    This season's been a letdown with both Ohtani and Judge struggling — never really got exciting.
    96AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:03
    Re: #90
    Guess it's a changing of the guard now that Ohtani and Judge are both done for.
    111AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:05
    Did you get up early? Go grab me the usual badger ochazuke, would you? (apparent off-topic copypasta)
    113AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:06
    Re: #111
    Oh, so now you've followed me into this thread too.
    112AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:05
    Going on the IL at this point in the season, he probably won't make it back in time for the postseason.
    That's likely the call they've made.
    It's a shame, but I guess we just have to let him rest the rest of this season, take his time healing, and pin our hopes on next year.
    115AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:06
    Re: #112
    Pinch-hitter duty at best, I'd guess.
    127AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:07
    If Ohtani's done, Japanese baseball's popularity is going to sink even further into irrelevance — is that really fine?
    157AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:12
    Re: #127
    There's still Murakami. (Munetaka Murakami)
    130AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:08
    Should've done this way sooner.
    He was clearly hurt — what was the point of leaving him batting leadoff?
    166AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:13
    Re: #130
    Obviously he's the one who turned it down, lol.
    185AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:17
    Re: #130
    Go ask the man himself.
    136AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:08
    Knew it — nothing good ever comes out of playing the WBC.
    Probably gonna be the same story with the Olympics.
    146AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:10
    Re: #136
    This definitely had an impact.
    This was supposed to be his real comeback year for the two-way thing, so he should've started slow and built up toward Opening Day.
    142AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:09
    That decision took forever, lol
    160AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:12
    Re: #142
    From a business standpoint too, benching your marquee player — who could still at least hit — for 15 days is a painful call.
    I bet it wasn't easy for them to pull the trigger.
    195AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:18
    Wasn't Misiorowski supposed to be the one who breaks down?
    205AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:20
    Re: #195
    It's probably just a matter of time before he breaks down too, though — total deGrom trajectory.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    In Major League Baseball, a trip to the injured list (IL) requires a minimum 15-day stint, letting a team pull an injured player off the active roster and bring in a replacement. As manager Roberts explained, Ohtani has been struggling lately — striking out in four straight at-bats on September 2nd, missing four games, and returning on the 7th only to still be off his game — so this looks less like a specific injury and more like an attempt to reset his form. On the threads, reactions ranged widely: criticism over why the team didn’t decide to rest him sooner, speculation that his participation in this year’s WBC may have played a role, and even arguments that he should give up on the two-way experiment and focus solely on hitting. There were also baseless posts insinuating drug use, which have been excluded from this article. One point worth clarifying, since it’s easy to misread: going on the IL doesn’t automatically mean his season is over — rather, it’s being framed as a tune-up at this late stage of the regular season, ahead of the postseason.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread ‘[Baseball] Shohei Ohtani placed on the injured list for the first time in 3 years, since September 2023 — Manager Roberts: ‘We’ll use the 15 days to reset his body once’‘.

  • Shohei Ohtani Could Land on the IL — Right Arm Trouble Flares Up Again During Swing

    Dodgers pitcher/DH Shohei Ohtani was left out of the starting lineup for the sixth time in seven games, raising the possibility that he could be placed on the injured list (IL). According to manager Dave Roberts, Ohtani felt discomfort in his right arm during swing practice on September 7, and the issue has lingered without fully healing. Because Ohtani is registered as a two-way player, an IL stint for him would require a longer 15-day absence than usual, leaving the club torn on how to proceed. On 5ch, opinions split between those urging him to rest and those questioning why Ohtani is so stubbornly refusing to go on the IL.

    Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32) was left off the starting lineup for a second straight game — his sixth absence from the lineup in seven games.

    At his pre-game press conference, manager Dave Roberts revealed that Ohtani’s right arm isn’t in good shape. “During his swing on Monday [the 7th, local time], he felt discomfort. I heard about it last night. It turns out it hadn’t fully healed. We’re resting him today and will consult with the medical staff on how to proceed.”

    Asked whether that could include placing Ohtani on the injured list, Roberts said, “It’s a possibility. Since it would mean 15 days, we’d like to avoid it if we can, but doing what’s best for him is also what’s best for the team.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:33
    Getting injured just from swinging is insane.
    How fragile is this guy?
    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:33
    Apparently Ohtani's been doing full-power swing practice behind the bench during the game, by the way
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:46
    Re: #6
    The media's probably gonna find some way to spin this into a heartwarming story too
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:34
    This is starting to sound like something out of an old-timer's farewell tour
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:34
    They just keep saying 'right arm, right arm' without ever naming the actual injury — this one's probably legit bad
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:35
    They should've just put him on the IL right away instead of him trying to look tough about it
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:35
    He won't rest even when told to rest, so there's really nothing the Dodgers can do about it
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:35
    Told to rest, then goes and does an angry full-power swing session behind the bench
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:36
    Can't be helped
    Guess we go get Satteru (nickname for Hanshin Tigers slugger Teruaki Sato) to fill the gap
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:36
    Why is Ohtani so stubbornly refusing to go on the IL?
    He's way too desperate to play.
    He's not even hitting when he does play, so what is he even trying to prove, seriously
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:39
    Re: #16
    Obviously it's for his own stats
    For the MVP
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:00
    Re: #16
    Normally the IL is 10 days, but for a two-way player it's 15 days
    That's why the team is hesitant to put him on it
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:18
    Re: #16
    If he goes on the IL, he's guaranteed to lose the home run race to Murakami or Okamoto
    Meaning he'd hand over the title of best hitter in Japan
    He hates that
    Having a player who can't play still take up a roster spot hurts the team
    But since his own numbers matter more to him than the team winning, he's refusing the IL
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:36
    A horse that finishes the race unhurt is a great horse — take a page from Ichiro's book
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:38
    Even if Roberts consults the medical staff, doesn't it not matter since Ohtani won't listen to anyone anyway? 🤔
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:38
    A DH-only guy is an absolute nightmare to manage in situations like this
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:39
    Didn't Dr. Yada ever teach him that?
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:40
    Insisting on playing for a team that's basically running away with the division says it all, doesn't it
    If he were on a team locked in a tight pennant race, wanting to play could be about contributing to the team and all that, but…
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:43
    Is there seriously nobody who can rein this guy in?
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:48
    Honestly he should just step away from baseball for a while, sit out the postseason too, and come back fresh next year
    At this rate he's just going to be seen as a liability who won't stop trying to play…
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:48
    Oh, so it was just an injury after all
    So as long as he's not hurt, he really is the strongest player in the world — phew, glad to hear it
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:48
    Seriously, what is this guy even trying to do
    If he'd just quietly gone on the IL last month, he could've finished with respectable-looking stats
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:50
    Injured from a swing lol
    Do some exercise that actually matches what your body can handle lol
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:53
    His season's pretty much done, and that's fine
    He'll just win MVP again next year
    Yoshinobu Yamamoto will carry the Dodgers to a three-peat
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:55
    Can't the team or manager just force him to rest in a case like this?
    If Ohtani throws a fit about wanting to play, are they obligated to let him?
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:55
    Re: #55
    Ohtani's side has a clause in his contract letting him refuse
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:28
    Re: #55
    If they make him rest, he just goes and trains hard behind the bench during the game
    basically proving that resting him doesn't accomplish anything
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:57
    He's a stoic space case, so somebody needs to be the one to put a stop to this
    105AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:57
    I think the damage from that 50-50 season is still catching up with him
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:00
    Re: #105
    50-50 isn't really that impressive a record anyway
    Anyone can steal bases, people just don't usually bother going for it
    So it's basically just 50 home runs
    106AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:00
    He probably doesn't get any dopamine from anything besides baseball
    He's gonna be an empty shell once he retires

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The injured list (IL) normally requires a minimum 10-day stint, but a rule mandates at least 15 days for players registered as two-way (pitcher and position player), and that’s cited as one reason the club is finding this decision difficult. Ohtani reportedly has a contract clause preventing the team from placing him on the IL without his consent, and some replies in the thread touched on why the club can’t simply rest him unilaterally. With the postseason approaching, opinions were split between playing through the injury and taking a longer break to be ready, and the debate widened alongside criticism of his recent hitting slump. Note that replies implying Ohtani himself was somehow at fault in the Ippei Mizuhara illegal gambling case were excluded from this article, as those claims are not established fact.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanでも実況G) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani Could Land on the IL — Right Arm Injured Again During Swing“.