Category: Baseball

  • Nippon-Ham’s Ito Taiga and Seibu Coach Kuroda Nearly Come to Blows — 5ch: “Coach, Check Your Ego”

    During the Seibu–Nippon-Ham game at Belluna Dome on September 12, Nippon-Ham pitcher Ito Taiga and Seibu coach Kuroda Tetsushi got into a heated shouting match mid-game, with an angry-looking Kuroda storming toward the mound. Players poured out of both dugouts and things briefly turned into a tense standoff, though it never escalated to blows. On 5ch, a post claiming to be from someone watching in person spread the account that “Coach Kuroda kept heckling Ito persistently about how he was handling the rosin, and Ito snapped back at him — that’s what set it off.” Some questioned why a coach, rather than a player, was the one front and center in the confrontation, while others speculated that the recent decline in on-field brawls might be linked to team policies banning casual chatter and greetings between players.

    9/12 (Sat) 19:35

    Daily Sports

    “Seibu vs. Nippon-Ham” (September 12, Belluna Dome)

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:17
    Pro baseball brawls have pretty much disappeared, huh.
    Though I watch a ton of them in MLB.
    66AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:47
    Re: #2
    Makes sense they've declined — you could get criminally charged for violence these days.
    10AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:20
    Coach, don't butt in lol
    110AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:10
    Re: #10
    Maybe he's just a good coach lol
    17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:22
    This one's on the Ham-trash (derisive nickname for Nippon-Ham)
    39AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:30
    Re: #17
    You're the worst one here
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:23
    Happened to flip the channel over and saw everyone gathered up — so was it the coach who went after him?
    22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:24
    Re: #19
    Looked to me like Ham's starter Ito was the one picking a fight with Seibu
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:25
    Back in Hoshino's era, getting your uniform ripped off was just business as usual
    28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:26
    Apparently it went down like this ↓

    894 Anonymous Commentator (Au Au Kee Sad3-T/Hs [182.249.57.15]) 9/12 (Sat) 2026 19:36:56.99 ID:SJHGY/VXa
    FYI I was there in person, up in the stands

    Kuroda kept relentlessly heckling Ito (probably about the rosin)
    ↓
    Ito snapped and yelled back
    ↓
    Kuroda lost it even harder
    ↓
    Near-brawl
    45AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:34
    Re: #28
    Probably got told something like "I'm a Sawamura Award pitcher — what have you ever done?"
    51AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:38
    Re: #28
    Coach, don't let your ego show
    102AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:04
    Re: #28
    Kuroda: "Rosin! Rosin!"
    Ito: "What's Lu Xun (Rojin) got to do with anything?"
    Kuroda: "Diary of a Madman" (Lu Xun's novel — "kyōjin nikki" in Japanese)
    Ito: "Who said anything about the Giants (Kyojin)?"

    Probably went something like that, who knows
    36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:29
    There hadn't been a brawl in ages, everyone was getting along fine. I bet it's because guys like Fujikawa and Shinjo started banning pregame greetings and chatting with the other team. That kind of thing just builds up stress for the players, and with no interaction anymore, it's making things worse between them.
    41AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:31
    Re: #36
    That's totally normal in MLB. These old-school "proper baseball" geezers need to get with the times.
    44AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:33
    Why was Genda acting so cocky? lol
    48AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:37
    Re: #44
    That's the biggest mystery here lol
    60AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:43
    Re: #44
    He was being weirdly aggro, it's hilarious
    98AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:03
    Re: #44
    Maybe he just wanted to get out of there fast
    46AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:34
    A coach mixing it up with a player is way too out of line lol
    57AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:39
    Re: #46
    Some managers love stealing the spotlight from players too lol
    50AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:37
    Did Kuroda ditch Hiroshima to come to Seibu?
    84AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:56
    Re: #50
    What's that got to do with Hiroshima?
    54AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:39
    They got into it over whether to put soy sauce or Worcestershire sauce on tonkatsu
    74AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:52
    Re: #54
    Mixing soy sauce and sauce together is actually pretty good
    108AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:09
    Re: #54
    It's miso you put on tonkatsu, obviously
    80AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:54
    Sign-stealing again, maybe?
    97AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:03
    Re: #80
    This has nothing to do with the sign-stealing Hawks (SoftBank)
    85AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:57
    Is he Chiharu Matsuyama's husband?
    90AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:59
    Re: #85
    "Ha~te~shi~nai" ("Endless" — a line from Matsuyama Chiharu's hit song)~♪
    96AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:03
    It's just an everyday thing in Saitama for Matsuyama Chiharu to go off on one of his signature rants on NACK5 radio.

    Chiharu: "Well, y'know, since NACK5 is based in Saitama I probably shouldn't say this too loud, but — I was born in Hokkaido. So if you're asking which side I'm on, well, I don't think I need to spell it out, do I?"
    Listener: "Chiharu, that's some real backbone! Speaking your mind even on a Saitama station — I'm falling for you all over again!"
    (This is purely fiction)
    100AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:04
    Re: #96
    I just heard that in Chiharu's voice in my head
    112AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:11
    Re: #96
    Wait, does Niiyama talk like that…oh wait, it's Matsuyama
    99AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:03
    Guess Shinjo's been too soft on them and now someone's getting the wrong idea.
    Feels like it's only a matter of time before another Nakata Sho type shows up and causes trouble.
    106AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:07
    Re: #99
    Shinjo's got nothing to do with this lol

    Background and Key Points

    Pitcher Ito Taiga is Nippon-Ham’s ace, who became the youngest-ever winner of the Sawamura Award in 2021, while Coach Kuroda Tetsushi is a veteran who has coached for Seibu for nearly 20 years since retiring as a player. Brawls in Japanese pro baseball have been on the decline in recent years, and some in the thread speculated this might be linked to team policies discouraging casual chatter and greetings between players — though this is only speculation from posters, not something officially confirmed by the teams. The trigger for the clash was said to be “heckling over rosin,” but this too is based only on an anonymous post claiming to be from someone watching in person, and neither the teams nor those involved have given an official account of what happened.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Stadium in an Uproar: Nippon-Ham’s Ito Taiga and Seibu Coach Kuroda Tetsushi Nearly Come to Blows — Kuroda Storms Toward the Mound in Anger, Both Benches Empty in a Tense Standoff.”

  • Shinnosuke Abe’s Possible Return as Giants Manager Next Season Sparks Reaction from Players — 5ch: ‘We Don’t Want Him Back’

    In May, former Yomiuri Giants manager Shinnosuke Abe was arrested on the spot on suspicion of assaulting his eldest daughter and abruptly resigned as manager. Since then, acting manager Hideki Hashigami has steadied the team, rebuilding it into a genuine pennant contender against the Hanshin Tigers — but now some media outlets have begun reporting that Abe could return to the dugout as early as next season. The Giants have long followed an unwritten rule that only a homegrown ace pitcher or cleanup hitter can become manager, meaning that even with Hashigami delivering results, his promotion to full-time manager is considered unlikely. On 5ch, reports of players’ “we don’t want him back” reaction to Abe mixed with voices backing Hashigami and frustration at the team’s homegrown-only doctrine itself.

    The possibility that former Giants manager Shinnosuke Abe (47) could return to the dugout is now being reported by multiple media outlets. Abe was arrested on the spot at his Tokyo home on May 25, the eve of interleague play, on suspicion of assaulting his eldest daughter, and abruptly resigned as manager. Acting manager Hideki Hashigami (60), who took the helm on emergency short notice, has calmed the team down and put up a strong fight for the pennant against Hanshin — but under the club’s policy of “Giants managers must be pure-blooded,” his chances of being promoted to full manager next season are seen as slim. Talk of “former manager Abe’s return” is circulating within the team itself, and it has drawn pushback from some players. What decision will the front office ultimately make?

    Attended a rally to rouse team spirit

    〈”Is the report of former Giants manager Abe’s ‘September return’ true?” — even within the Yomiuri Group there is some sympathy for him, but what’s the sticking point?〉(Nikkan Gendai, September 1 issue), 〈The reality of the Giants’ succession plans: hoped-for return or comeback rumor? What kind of manager can be trusted with the young talent that has grown under the acting regime〉(Full-Count, September 7), 〈”Why not bring Abe (Shinnosuke) back as manager?” — a Giants legend issues an urgent proposal on next season’s managerial appointment〉(RONSPO, September 8)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:26
    7AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:28
    Now that he's got his anger management sorted,
    'saintly' Abe makes his return (sarcastic — 仏 means Buddha-like/serene)
    9AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:29
    I want Hashigami to win the pennant and the Japan Series as acting manager, and take home the Matsutaro Shoriki Award for it
    12AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:30
    Baseball reporting is way too full of made-up stuff…
    even if someone really thinks this, they're not going to say it to some reporter
    14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:31
    Have Egawa oversee the pitchers like a general-manager type role,
    and let acting manager Hashigami actually run the team
    16AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:32
    The people desperately hoping for Abe's return are basically all Giants haters
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:33
    He's got a power-harassment streak
    and probably thinks that's cool
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:33
    Honestly, ChatGPT could do this job, no joke
    21AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:33
    A rival team's fan: 'I really want Abe to come back. The Giants manager definitely has to be a homegrown player after all.'
    42AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    Re: #21
    Kind of like those 'Don't quit, Ishiba' protests, huh (lol)
    22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:33
    Iron-fist discipline and managing by mood swings

    what's wrong with that?
    Say it to my face!!!
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:34
    Of course the players don't want him back
    26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:34
    The name 'Full-Count' fools you
    — you'd think it's a serious specialist outlet
    but it clickbaits headlines like any tabloid site
    though maybe that's just how it survives
    27AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:34
    Another fan-fiction article, huh (lol)
    Hashigami gets walked all over by the players, no way he becomes manager (lol)
    53AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:40
    Re: #27
    Even if that's true, he's getting results, so it's not like Abe suddenly becomes necessary — can't be helped
    28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:34
    'Because I'm a stubborn Showa-era old man'

    — sounds like something he'd say
    30AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:35
    There's this creepy unwritten rule that only a Giants ace or cleanup hitter can become manager

    so dumb
    102AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:56
    Re: #30
    A player's ability and a manager's ability are completely different things.
    There'd be nothing wrong at all with someone who isn't a Giants alum becoming the team's full manager or coach.
    36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:37
    He's the type who wants to be called a 'drill sergeant,' right?

    dunno though
    40AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    They keep floating these trial balloons
    forget about a comeback already
    it's fans of other teams who want him back
    41AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    Shincho picking up a Nikkan Gendai story and writing an article off it means nobody actually did any reporting…
    43AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    So the front office doesn't consider whether someone's actually suited for the job
    45AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    You can tell just by watching the stands at Giants games right now.
    The cheers for Hashigami get louder by the day, and fans light up when he waves back.
    Giants fans have already accepted Hashigami — more than expected
    46AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    It's just like an office worker feeling refreshed once their harassing boss is gone
    people who abuse their power drag down productivity
    you guys are nothing but dead weight to the organization
    47AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    Well, from the players' perspective, a manager who's actually getting results is obviously better
    48AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:38
    As a Hanshin fan, I'd love to see manager Abe come back (lol)
    62AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:43
    The game gap suddenly started closing right after this report came out
    69AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:45
    Re: #62
    Maybe it's because the players rallied together
    92AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:53
    It's crazy not to make Hashigami the full manager
    It's messed up that pro baseball managers aren't chosen on merit
    Being the front office's favorite or whatever is just gross
    101AnonymousSep 12, 2026 21:55
    Re: #92
    It's not about being the front office's favorite — it's just a dumb club playing a self-imposed 'Giants alumni only' challenge run
    115AnonymousSep 12, 2026 22:00
    So what does 'Nabetsune' have to say about this? (longtime Yomiuri Group chairman Tsuneo Watanabe)
    119AnonymousSep 12, 2026 22:03
    If it has to be a cleanup hitter or ace, that'd be Abe, Matsui, Uehara, Yoshinobu, Kuwata, or Saito, right?
    121AnonymousSep 12, 2026 22:05
    Re: #119
    Matsui, Uehara, and Kuwata aren't homegrown Giants
    120AnonymousSep 12, 2026 22:05
    Why'd they pick Hashigami as acting manager, I wonder. I figured it'd be someone like Kawai.
    122AnonymousSep 12, 2026 22:05
    Re: #120
    Makes you suspect there's something going on with Kawai, precisely because he wasn't picked

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Giants are a club that has long upheld the unwritten rule that only a homegrown player (someone who was once an ace pitcher or cleanup hitter) can become manager, and it’s this convention that lies behind the view that acting manager Hashigami is unlikely to be promoted to full manager even with his results so far. Meanwhile, Abe resigned as manager in May after being arrested on the spot on suspicion of assaulting his eldest daughter, and this round of reporting does not touch on what happened with the criminal proceedings in that case. What split opinion on the thread was whether Hashigami, who is delivering results, should be given credit, and whether the Giants should stick to their homegrown-only policy — evaluations of Abe himself were almost uniformly harsh. It’s also worth readers keeping in mind that the ‘comeback rumor’ reporting comes mainly from outlets like Nikkan Gendai and RONSPO that don’t clearly cite primary sources, and is not an official comment from the club or from Abe himself.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Former Giants manager Shinnosuke Abe’s ‘return next season’ rumor draws real reactions from the Giants roster: ‘We don’t want him back,’ ‘It’s crazy that Hashigami isn’t getting promoted’ [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.

  • U18 Baseball Asia Cup: Fans Stunned Pitchers Can’t Throw Two Days in a Row — 5ch: ‘Even Japan’s High School Baseball Federation Would Be Shocked by This Rule’

    On 5ch’s News VIP board, a casual live-commentary thread sprang up for the Japan vs. Taiwan game at the U18 Baseball Asia Cup. Posters shared links to a virtual live-score site and rambled on about pitching changes, the cheering squads, and other bits of the game as it unfolded, with early posts also drifting into worries about the Hanshin Tigers’ pennant race standings. The topic that drew the biggest reaction was the news that a pitcher who had been throwing well would be barred from taking the mound the next day because of his pitch count — a tournament rule quite different from what Japanese high school baseball fans are used to, prompting comments like, ‘Even the High School Baseball Federation would be shocked by a rule like this.’

    1AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:32
    Since we're here, might as well live-blog the game in this thread.
    4AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:34
    Re: #1
    Niiiice work, OP~ thaaanks for the thread~
    The Tigers' season's pretty much over already, so at least let Japan win this one.
    5AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:35
    Here's the link to the virtual live-score page:
    ttps://vk.sportsbull.jp/koshien/
    8AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:36
    Grandpa! Go bring that guy some braised pork rice! (written in Chinese — a nod to the Taiwan matchup, riffing on 5ch's recurring 'butler and young mistress' roleplay meme)
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:40
    By the way, I couldn't watch yesterday — why'd we lose? Was the Korean pitcher that good?
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:41
    Re: #19
    Okada pulled a 'Morishi' on him (5ch in-joke, exact meaning unclear from context)
    22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:42
    Re: #20
    You're basically the human version of Chiben Wakayama's 2026 squad (a famous Japanese high school baseball powerhouse) —
    always freakin' bunting…
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:43
    Looks like some scouts showed up, but can you even get an accurate radar-gun reading from way over there?
    25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:43
    This pitcher looks tough to hit too.
    26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:44
    Ball-count nerds rejoice lol lol lol
    Wait, what are you even doing
    27AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:44
    Re: #26
    More like ball-count-MISTAKE nerds!!!
    30AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:45
    I wonder if Japan's brass band made the trip.
    31AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:46
    A lefty throwing 150 km/h (~93 mph) is gonna be tough to hit.
    34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:50
    Ritora's waking up━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    35AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:50
    IT'S HERE━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 19:50
    Ritora's here━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    46AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:00
    Oh! There was already a thread over here! I made my own thread and been talking to myself this whole time (;;)
    47AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:02
    Re: #46
    I made mine without a template or anything, so feel free to come over to this one instead
    67AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:13
    No video review? That's pretty behind the times.
    68AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:15
    Re: #67
    I think I heard pros don't normally use this stadium… but it's an international tournament, so you'd hope they'd have it properly maintained.
    79AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:19
    Did he not step on first base?
    86AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:20
    Re: #79
    He stepped on it, phew 😮‍💨
    103AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:30
    I'd love to watch Taiwanese high school baseball live in person sometime.
    104AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:31
    Re: #103
    I wonder if the cheer squad captain doubles as the DJ?
    115AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:36
    So it's confirmed Oda can't pitch tomorrow?
    Even the High School Baseball Federation would be shocked by a rule like this.
    116AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:37
    Re: #115
    Yep, confirmed.
    Well, I guess they want to keep it as a proper country-vs-country format.
    128AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:40
    Butler dear, isn't asking Maiden to lay down a sacrifice bunt to second with one out here rather harsh?
    129AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:41
    Re: #128
    Young mistress… to see you grow so knowledgeable about baseball… this old butler is truly delighted.
    130AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:41
    Re: #128
    Young mistress,
    if it's Master Okada's doing, then it can't be helped.
    144AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:50
    How many pitches is he allowed to throw again?
    146AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:51
    Re: #144
    I think the limit for this game is 105?
    So it's right on the edge of whether he can complete the game or not.
    155AnonymousSep 12, 2026 20:54
    Re: #146
    Thanks… I really hope he can pull off the complete game somehow.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Since 2020, Japanese high school baseball has enforced a pitch-count limit of 500 pitches per week aimed at preventing pitcher injuries, but rules on rest days and back-to-back appearances vary from tournament to tournament and aren’t standardized across the board. The rule that sparked discussion in this thread — that a pitcher can’t take the mound again the next day — appears, based on replies in the thread, to be tied not just to player health management but also to the tournament’s aim of preserving a proper ‘country vs. country’ format, meaning it may work on a different principle than a simple pitch-count cap. Viewers accustomed to the norms of Koshien and regional high school tournaments in Japan seem especially likely to find these international-tournament-specific circumstances puzzling. Note that the final result of the game is not mentioned anywhere in this thread and remains unknown.

    ※This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (News Speed VIP) thread “Monster Koshien: U18 Asia Cup — Japan vs. Taiwan”.

  • Giants’ Comeback Pennant “Confirmed”? 5ch Fires Back: “Tigers Still Have 4 More Games Left”

    A thread titled “Giants’ Comeback Pennant Confirmed” popped up on 5ch’s live-commentary board — but at this point, the Tigers’ magic number for the pennant was still lit and hadn’t gone out. With the Tigers holding four more regular-season games remaining than the Giants, the thread split over how to properly calculate the real standings gap and how the head-to-head matchups would play out. Talk also heated up over MVP candidates, centered on Triple-Crown-paced Sato Teruaki and the continued strong pitching of Raidel Martinez.

    1AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:35
    Kansai comedy baseball, lmaooo
    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:37
    Matsugo's got a shot at MVP
    8AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:41
    Re: #3
    MVP should be Satoteru (nickname for slugger Sato Teruaki)
    36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:01
    Re: #8
    Not if they miss the pennant — even winning the Triple Crown wouldn't make it a lock
    38AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:01
    Re: #36
    In that case it's gotta be Raidel (Martinez)
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:56
    Uh, the Tigers' magic number is still lit though?
    25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:57
    Re: #24
    Someone who doesn't get how magic numbers work
    29AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:58
    Re: #24
    So what, lol
    31AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:58
    Re: #24
    Because the Tigers have 4 more games left
    28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 16:58
    Starting tomorrow the Giants and DeNA beat each other up, so the Tigers are still favored
    all they gotta do is beat the Dragons
    34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:00
    Re: #28
    Tigers are still favored, but whether they can beat the Carp is the whole key
    35AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:01
    If the Giants win it, is MVP gonna be Urata or Eight?
    39AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:02
    Re: #35
    If you're picking one Giant, it's Raidel
    61AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:09
    Re: #35
    Come on, MVP's gotta be Satoteru
    he's on Triple Crown pace
    40AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:03
    Tigers: 19 games left, clinch outright at 17-2 (incl. 2 head-to-head) — .605 pace
    Giants: 15 games left, need to win out — .595 pace
    The question is whether the Tigers' 4 extra games left end up a strength or a weakness
    43AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:04
    Re: #40
    It's 1 head-to-head game, not 2
    47AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:06
    Re: #40
    The real game-back gap is the difference in games remaining divided by 2, so it's still a 2.5-game gap

    Tigers are still way out in front
    42AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:04
    I still don't get how the magic number gets set or how the target team is chosen
    45AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:05
    Re: #42
    It applies when you'd still clinch by winning out against everyone else, even if the target team wins all of theirs
    48AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:06
    Re: #42
    The magic number is how many more wins you need even if you lose every remaining head-to-head with the target team
    That's why dropping head-to-head games against the target team never makes the magic number disappear
    56AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:08
    Re: #42
    It's a number for the team with the magic number: assuming you lose every head-to-head with the target team, how many wins do you still need from everyone else
    So conversely, winning a head-to-head game knocks it down by 2 or more
    51AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:07
    Even if they win the pennant, are they gonna fire Hashigami?
    Just keep him on, right?
    Back-to-back titles next year too, with Hashigami still as acting manager!
    55AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:08
    Re: #51
    I'm a fan of the young guys, so I want Abe back
    57AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:08
    Re: #51
    Abe's contract runs out at the end of this season anyway, so there's no manager for the acting guy to hand back to
    65AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:09
    Re: #51
    But when it goes down like that, keeping the same guy on usually ends badly, doesn't it
    54AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:08
    Re: #47
    If anything, the Tigers (derisive 2ch nickname: chin-kasu) are actually under .500 in September, so in real terms the Giants are up half a game — that's a way more sound way to calculate it than just assuming a full sweep of your extra games
    70AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:10
    Re: #54
    Same here
    Just looking at this month the Tigers have cooled off, and there are makeup doubleheaders coming up, so having more games left doesn't automatically mean an advantage

    Also I recall it being the same deal with 'V yanen' (a Kansai-dialect meme from last year's title race) — 'the Tigers have more games left…' and so on
    82AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:14
    The Tigers are playing at Koshien for a while starting tomorrow, right?
    And the opponents are the Dragons, Carp, and DeNA
    Isn't that basically a cakewalk?
    85AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:14
    Re: #82
    For some reason the Tigers actually have a lower win rate at Koshien, their own home park
    95AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:16
    Re: #82
    Not only is their Koshien win rate weirdly lower, they've also struggled against the Carp this year
    86AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:14
    ■ Central League Pitcher Rankings
    ERA: 1st Murakami (Tigers), 2nd Takahashi (Tigers)
    Wins: 1st Takahashi (Tigers), 2nd Murakami (Tigers)

    ■ Central League Batter Rankings
    Batting average: 1st Sato (Tigers), 2nd Morishita (Tigers)
    RBIs: 1st Sato (Tigers), 3rd Morishita (Tigers)
    Home runs: 1st Sato (Tigers), 2nd Morishita (Tigers)
    103AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:17
    Re: #86
    Seriously, if they're not running away with it with stats like that, it's on the manager
    105AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:18
    Re: #86
    Sounds like there's some kind of debuff in effect (lol)
    123AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:23
    Re: #86
    How are they not running away with the pennant with numbers like this?
    96AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:16
    If Hashigami had been manager from the start, they'd have run away with the pennant
    102AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:17
    Re: #96
    Not counting today, that's 7 straight losses to the Tigers, so no, that's not happening
    97AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:16
    I think the Giants have it pretty rough — they've still got a ton of games left against DeNA
    and DeNA's the strongest of the six teams right now
    100AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:17
    Re: #97
    The Giants are actually pretty good against the BayStars
    111AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:19
    Re: #100
    That's just from padding the record against DeNA early in the season, right?
    Feels like in recent years they've often ended up with a losing record against DeNA late in the season
    well, they'll probably manage to win tomorrow at least
    115AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:20
    Re: #110 Re: #111
    But the Tigers also have more games left against the BayStars
    118AnonymousSep 12, 2026 17:21
    Re: #111
    I mean, if we're going there, the Giants are 7-2 in September while the Tigers are 2-5, you know?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    In Japanese pro baseball, a team’s “magic number” is the count of wins still needed against any opponent — even assuming a complete sweep of losses in the remaining head-to-head games against the chasing team — to clinch the pennant; winning a head-to-head game changes how fast that number falls. That’s why opinions split over whether it’s valid to simply divide the four-game gap in games remaining by two to convert it into a standings gap. Sato Teruaki currently leads the league in batting average, RBIs, and home runs, putting a Triple Crown within reach, but with the team not running away with the pennant despite those numbers, some posters pointed fingers at the manager’s handling of the club. There’s also the backdrop that former manager Abe’s contract runs only through this season with no successor named yet, which feeds into the ongoing debate over the acting-manager setup.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Hooray] Giants’ Comeback Pennant Confirmed lmaooo.”

  • Giants Take Early Lead but Fail to Add On Against Tigers, Managerial Second-Guessing Ensues — 5ch: ‘He’s the National Vegetable’

    In a thread about the Giants-Tigers game at Tokyo Dome, the early innings became the hot topic. The Giants scored first in a scoring chance, but after opting for an aggressive at-bat instead of a sacrifice bunt, they failed to add another run, sparking a wave of criticism over the manager’s decisions. Cabbage’s continued struggles at the plate also came up, with one sarcastic comment calling him “the national vegetable” for always tasting the same. News that a large group of supporters had gathered from Tokyo, Osaka, Hokkaido, and Hiroshima was also shared, and the thread buzzed with both game commentary and debate over strategy.

    1AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:51
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread #132
    2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:51
    2025-2026
    Departures
    Released: 26 Imamura, 28 Takahashi, 36 Baba, 54 Otsaka, 95 Toda
    Free agency (released): 29 Griffin, 33 Keller, 39 Fulp, 42 Hernandez, 50 Okoe
    Active Player Draft (taken): 68 Kikuchi
    Player compensation (sent): 48 Tanaka C.
    Trade (sent): 59 Wakabayashi
    Posting system: 25 Okamoto
    Retired: 7 Nagano, 30 Kondo, 43 Shigenobu

    Demoted to developmental roster: 69 Sasahara, 90 Ishida Mitsuru, 94 Kita, 98 Suzuki, 99 Kyomoto

    Arrivals
    Draft picks: 21 Takemaru, 30 Tawa, 33 Kohama, 36 Yamashiro, 39 Minagawa, 99 Fujii
    Free agent signings: 9 Matsumoto, 43 Norimoto
    Active Player Draft (acquired): 54 Matsuura
    Trade (acquired):
    Other: 26 Whitley, 28 Howard, 29 Dalbec, 42 Mata, 56 Kitaura, 98 Ogasawara

    Promoted to first-team roster: 25 Daiki, 48 Luciano, 50 Tima, 59 Suzuki, 68 Utsunomiya, 69 Hirayama, 94 Chinen, 95 Sasahara

    2025 first-team roster count: 69
    2026 first-team roster count: 70

    Available uniform numbers
    7 18 55 83
    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:51
    Tokyo Dome
    Starting Lineups
    [Giants] [Tigers]
    4 Urata 8 Chikamoto
    8 Cabbage 7 Tateishi
    3 Dalbec 9 Morishita
    2 Oshiro 5 Sato
    5 Sakamoto 3 Ohyama
    6 Izumiguchi 4 Nakano
    7 Maru 2 Sakamoto
    9 Matsumoto 6 Motoyama
    1 Takemaru 1 Murakami
    6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:53
    Nothing he could hit.
    7AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:53
    Yeah, no way he was coming through in that clutch spot lol
    10AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:53
    Heading out to the hair salon, so please stop Kurosaki Nanako for me, okay?

    75
    32AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:55
    Re: #10
    Just get the barbershop owner to put the baseball game on the radio!
    13AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:53
    Re: #1
    Thanks for the thread
    Just win
    That's all that matters
    14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:53
    ヽ(・ω・)/ズコー (a classic "thud" sound effect for a comedic letdown)
    17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Same old Cabbage.
    18AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Same as always with Cabbage.
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    The slugger who electrified Koshien enrolled at a powerhouse university but dropped out after just three months, saying he'd "burned out at Koshien"… He later made a comeback in an independent league: "I couldn't give up baseball"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/398f1865f4350bf975491308930987a4eeb72b8d
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Knew it, gone just like that huh.
    21AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Same as ever when there's a chance to score.
    22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Cabbage always tastes the same, that's why he's the national vegetable (a pun: his name, Cabbage, sounds like kyabetsu, the Japanese word for cabbage).
    23AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    That attack was a real 'the mountain heaves and out comes a mouse' situation — all buildup, no payoff (also a pun on Tigers' Ohyama).
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    With Ishizuka or Sasaki on the mound, that inning would've been a quick three-and-out.
    Gotta hand it to the veterans.
    25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Done in on the second pitch.
    26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    Murakami isn't someone you can just hit easily — unless someone makes a fatal error, we're losing this 90% of the time.
    27AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    If we win today does the magic number disappear?
    28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:54
    This lineup really chokes in scoring chances, huh.
    29AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:55
    Only getting one run here is going to come back to bite us later.
    30AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:55
    Should've let Maru swing away there.
    With the pitcher's spot coming up next, it was basically already 2 outs anyway.
    34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 14:55
    Re: #30
    This is probably going to come back to haunt us.
    58AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:01
    Takemaru
    Why throw a fastball to Tateishi
    He could've just stuck to forkballs and sliders.
    62AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:01
    Exactly, exactly.
    As long as he doesn't miss his spots at key moments, he's fine.
    64AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:02
    At this point we just have to hold on with this one run.
    68AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:03
    [Giants] Unusually massive cheering squad forms for showdown with Tigers — over 40 people from four groups in Tokyo, Osaka, Hokkaido, and Hiroshima gather, Tokyo Dome erupts
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/97c17c372e95d7ab2a3c12a7bf40aa1c63621999
    76AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:05
    Re: #68
    Can't tell if that's a lot or a little.
    71AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:04
    WAKA IS HEEERE ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (classic 5ch "he's here!" meme)
    82AnonymousSep 12, 2026 15:05
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    Jammed it.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The thread title “Acting Manager” reflects that the Giants are currently being led by an interim manager rather than an officially appointed one. The lineup shown includes draft pick pitcher Takemaru and high-school-drafted outfielder Urata, suggesting a roster that has undergone major turnover after the offseason release of players like Imamura and Takahashi and the free-agent additions of Matsumoto and Norimoto. Opinion in the thread split over whether it was right to swing away instead of calling for a sacrifice bunt with runners on first and second and no outs — a decision that drew heavy criticism once it failed to produce an extra run. Meanwhile, Cabbage’s ongoing slump kept coming up repeatedly, with talk even turning to whether his contract should be extended. That said, the final result of the game isn’t known from this excerpt alone — this is only a reaction to how the early innings played out.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello Pro) thread “Giants Acting Manager 133“.

  • Shohei Ohtani Lands on Injured List Amid Right Arm Inflammation — Reactions Pour In

    Dodgers manager Dave Roberts confirmed that pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32) has been placed on the injured list with inflammation in his right biceps. Ohtani reportedly feels discomfort through his entire right arm when swinging the bat, and the pain in his left knee also remains. On the thread, many pointed to a recurring pattern going back to his Angels days — playing through underreported injuries until they turn serious — and an anecdote about Ohtani continuing full-power swings in the batting cage behind the dugout right up until he landed on the IL became a hot topic. Meanwhile, opinions were split between those who see the left knee as the more serious long-term issue and those worried about the impact on this year’s MVP race.

    Dodgers manager Dave Roberts addressed the condition of pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32), who was placed on the injured list (IL) with inflammation in his right biceps.

    [Photo] Shohei Ohtani placed on the injured list

    Speaking to local reporters before the game against the Marlins on the road in Miami, Roberts said of Ohtani: “He has pain in the biceps. Right now we’re just letting him rest and see how he recovers, and we’ll go from there.” On the specifics, he added: “According to the medical staff and trainers, he feels discomfort in the right upper arm when he swings the bat — you could say it affects the whole arm. He also still has pain in the left knee. But right now, I think the biceps discomfort is the main issue.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:20
    This is what happens when you don't listen to anyone.
    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:20
    Even the way this is playing out is exactly the same disaster as his Angels days, lol.
    38AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:29
    Re: #3
    What was even the point of the Angels' "management" back then — even that time it was Ohtani who kept pitching against doctor's orders.
    63AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:36
    Re: #3
    Back in his Angels days it didn't matter since they weren't making the playoffs anyway, so going all-out all season was fine. But the Dodgers make the postseason every year, so I wish he'd think about that a bit more. Guess it's too late now though.
    10AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:22
    Apparently after getting dropped from the starting lineup, he spent his time sulking by taking full-power batting practice swings behind the dugout out of spite.
    27AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    Re: #10
    What's really messed up is that Roberts got absolutely torn apart for supposedly not stopping him, when actually it was Ohtani who underreported the injury and lied about it.
    11AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:22
    The fact that he lied to the team is the worst part of this.
    13AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:22
    Hiding an injury and continuing to play is seriously unacceptable for an adult.
    Can this 32-year-old not even do basic workplace reporting ("hōrenso" — report/contact/consult, a core Japanese workplace norm)?
    34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:28
    Re: #13
    This changes everything if Ohtani was the one lying.
    Everyone who was bashing Roberts owes him an apology.
    14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:23
    He kept forcing himself to play by hiding an injury, and now it's turned into something irreversible (the third time counting back to his Angels days).

    How many times is this guy going to repeat the same thing?
    64AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:36
    Re: #14
    Wait, seriously, three times?
    17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:24
    A hundred billion yen for a DH.
    62AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:35
    Re: #17
    *Reminder: he's a pitcher currently in rehab.
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:24
    Basically rehabbing his whole tenure, plus a cushy pitching schedule when he does throw, plus DH-only duty —
    and after being coddled like that, he's already falling apart at 30? Come on, Ohtani.
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:24
    The doctors reportedly said the success rate for a second Tommy John surgery is under 50%.
    He's probably compensating for his elbow, which is throwing everything else out of whack.
    His mechanics look kind of ugly now too — this seems pretty serious.
    21AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    If his leg were really bad he wouldn't be running the bases like that, and if it is bad and he's still running like that, that's just reckless.
    22AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    If Ippei were still around, this wouldn't have happened…… (Ippei Mizuhara, Ohtani's former interpreter)
    23AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    Can't they void the long-term contract on the grounds that he lied?

    The Dragons are waiting for him —
    same blue uniform, so he should be fine with that. (the Chunichi Dragons, an NPB team also in blue)
    24AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    Same as Ippei, who covered up his embezzlement.
    25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:25
    He's a DH with all the time in the world to rest and stretch, no fatigue to speak of — so why is he getting hurt more than anyone else?
    31AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:27
    No, the knee is the real problem.
    A torn meniscus never fully heals even with surgery.
    Fluid builds up periodically for the rest of your life and has to be drained.
    And it's the left knee, his plant leg, so he's probably done for.
    51AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:32
    Even the coverage in the US is starting to make him sound like kind of a nutcase — that's rough.
    58AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:34
    Re: #51
    Once he got money stolen by Ippei, some people already started treating him as an oddball.
    65AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:36
    Re: #58
    In the US it's less "had his money stolen" and more just "gambling guy" as far as the general perception goes.
    69AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:37
    He'll probably be fine after a couple months of proper rest.
    121AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:57
    Re: #69
    It won't heal.
    A knee like that basically means retirement territory.
    77AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:41
    This guy really doesn't seem to care about the team at all, lol.
    81AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:42
    Re: #77
    Aren't you the one getting it backwards?
    Ohtani doesn't exist for the team's sake — the team exists for Ohtani's sake.
    86AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:43
    Why does he want to play in games so badly?
    Does it change how much money he gets paid?
    90AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:44
    Re: #86
    Simply because he wants to be adored.
    He doesn't want to get passed in home runs by Murakami or Okamoto.
    124AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:57
    Re: #86
    Bonds won 4 straight MVPs.
    If Ohtani wins MVP this year, he'll tie that at four in a row.
    120AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:57
    So in the end he couldn't surpass Ichiro after all.
    132AnonymousSep 12, 2026 13:01
    Re: #120
    He's already crushing him by a landslide, as always.
    123AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:57
    Re: #121
    Do you seriously believe his knee is actually hurt?
    126AnonymousSep 12, 2026 12:58
    Re: #123
    It's probably actually hurt, yeah.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The IL placement announced this time is for inflammation in the right biceps; according to Manager Roberts’ comments, the discomfort extends across the whole right arm during swings, while the left knee pain persists as well. That said, nothing in the team’s official comments confirms that Ohtani “misrepresented the severity of his injury” — much of the thread’s speculation about a cover-up or false reporting is based on assumptions by posters on 5channel, which is worth keeping in mind. Some comments assert with certainty how serious the left knee damage is, but the source article does not list a specific diagnosis. The frequent comparisons to his injury history from his Angels days stem from Ohtani’s track record of pitching restrictions and IL stints in the past; how much of the second half of this season he ends up missing will depend on the results of further examination.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani (32)’s right arm injury reportedly worse than his knee.”

  • Outcry Over Korean Team’s Celebration After Home Run — 5ch Split: “Was It Intimidating? The Video Leaves It Unclear”

    At the Super Round of the BFA U18 Asian Championship being held at the Taipei Dome, Korea’s team erupted in wild celebration after hitting a home run in the fourth inning that closed the gap to just one run against Japan. It’s been reported that Zenyu Ogura, a legendary figure in Japanese high school baseball who was serving as commentator for the Virtual Koshien broadcast, criticized the celebration. On 5ch, opinions first split over how to read this — was the criticism aimed at the players celebrating the home run itself, or at what looked like a provocative attitude toward the Japanese dugout? Reactions were further divided after users checked the video themselves: some said the Korean players’ behavior “just looks like normal celebrating,” while others felt it was genuinely “intimidating.”

    Japan’s Samurai Japan high school national team is currently competing in the 14th BFA U18 Asian Championship, held in Taipei, Taiwan. On the 11th, Super Round Game 1 against Korea took place at the Taipei Dome. During the Japanese broadcast, a legendary figure in high school baseball criticized the Korean team’s manners.

    In the game, Japan took a 2-0 lead in the first inning, aided by Korean fielding errors. In the top of the fourth, with two outs, Korea’s cleanup hitter Lee Ho-min blasted a massive solo home run to left field off pitcher Masahiro Sugimoto (Chiben Gakuen High School), cutting the deficit to one run.

    After rounding the bases, Lee Ho-min returned to a jubilant Korean dugout. The players rushed out in front of the dugout, shouting loudly in a way that seemed intended to intimidate the Japanese team. It was this moment that drew criticism from Zenyu Ogura, who was providing commentary for the live Virtual Koshien broadcast.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:25
    Japan's high school all-star squad
    went and lost to a team like Korea
    6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:27
    Don't go lecturing another country's culture right after losing
    7AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:27
    In any other sport this would just be normal celebrating — comments like this are exactly why kids don't want to play baseball anymore
    9AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:29
    I could kind of see it if the game were held in Japan, but this is in Taiwan
    What is this, an uninvited etiquette lecturer?
    11AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:30
    Why would Korea need to learn Japanese manners?
    12AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:30
    Lame, lol. Go make up your own rules and follow them by yourselves.
    13AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:30
    What even is this
    Who does this guy think he is?
    If he wants to talk about manners, he should look at the arrogance of forcing his own standards on other people first
    14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:31
    You don't have to force yourself to hype this up, you know
    15AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:31
    If it were about international rules instead of "Japanese manners" I could get it
    17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:31
    I'm Japanese myself, but getting crushed and then acting like a sore loser is embarrassing — frustrating to see as a fellow Japanese person
    18AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:32
    I could understand it between two teams from the same country, but expecting that kind of deference from Korea in the first place is the wrong ask
    19AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:33
    This isn't even Japanese high school baseball — would anyone have complained if players from North/Central America or the Caribbean celebrated like this?
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2098333192743006208/vid/avc1/1404×720/UQoKZEDmqRlsqJR0.mp4
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2098320073803042816/vid/avc1/1280×720/MPuKY5-mQJAUfhSL.mp4
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:33
    "Manners" (lol)
    Just go jerk each other off over your own rules back home
    21AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:34
    Guess the guy who planted a flag on the mound got reincarnated (a reference to a past incident where a Korean pitcher stuck a flag in the mound after beating Japan)
    23AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:35
    Didn't they also do the pepper mill thing or whatever it's called? (the grinding-motion celebration gesture popularized by Lars Nootbaar at the WBC)
    25AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:35
    Lecturing people about manners just because you're salty about losing — hilarious, lol
    26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:36
    Isn't the headline off here?
    He's saying "cut out the intimidating behavior,"
    but the headline alone reads like "don't celebrate home runs"
    30AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:41
    Re: #26
    Ah, if they actually did something directed at the Japanese dugout, that changes things
    28AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:40
    There was a video a while back of a women's baseball team going nuts celebrating after scoring.
    The women look like they're just having fun, but the men's side is seriously creepy, like some kind of army
    33AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:43
    Re: #1
    Oh, so it's a commentator criticizing the intimidating attitude, not a manager
    Got fooled by the thread title
    34AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:44
    He'd actually dropped a fly ball earlier, yet still celebrated like that
    35AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:44
    Japanese players celebrate home runs too, don't they?
    36AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:44
    Re: #1
    > cleanup hitter Lee Ho-min

    I misread that as "Hoimin" (the healing spell from Dragon Quest)
    38AnonymousSep 12, 2026 01:45
    Sounds like the kind of manager who's been watching too many "Japan is amazing" TV specials
    54AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:03
    So Japanese standards are supposed to be the international standard?
    That's awfully presumptuous, don't you think
    And if you'd won, maybe, but saying this after losing just reads as sour grapes
    Which itself goes against Japanese manners
    55AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:05
    Re: #54
    "The loser doesn't get to say anything"
    sounds more like a Korean custom than a Japanese one, no?

    In Japan the norm is basically no-side (no hard feelings once the match is over)
    57AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:07
    I don't see the problem with celebrating
    Did they actually do anything intimidating though?
    82AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:31
    Forcing Japanese customs onto other countries isn't right
    This idea of "being considerate of others" feels a bit twisted
    When you're happy you should celebrate all out, and the losing side should congratulate the winners too
    88AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:36
    Re: #82
    The title's misleading
    He's not saying don't celebrate the home run — he's saying stop the provocation aimed at the Japanese dugout
    95AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:42
    > "The players rushed out in front of the dugout, shouting loudly in a way that seemed intended to intimidate the Japanese team."

    Thought "that can't be right" and checked the video myself, but it just looks like normal celebrating to me
    Calling this "intimidation" seems like a stretch
    https://youtu.be/w_bbE_hyOaw?t=1253
    99AnonymousSep 12, 2026 02:49
    Re: #95
    Yeah, that's just young guys celebrating normally

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The BFA U18 Asian Championship is currently underway in Taipei, Taiwan, with Japan and Korea both fighting for a top finish in the Super Round that includes this game. Zenyu Ogura, who raised the criticism, is a legendary figure in high school baseball who led Nihon University Third High School to a national championship at Koshien; this time, he wasn’t speaking as a team manager but as a commentator for the live Virtual Koshien broadcast. On the thread, his comments were initially misread as coming from “the manager,” which sent the discussion off track — it’s easy to overlook that these were really just the personal impressions of a commentator watching the game. There’s also the matter of the article describing the behavior as “intimidating”: among viewers who watched the same footage, some felt it “just looks like celebrating” while others saw it as “provocation aimed at the opposing dugout” — a reminder that text alone makes it hard to judge what was actually going on.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] U18 Asian Championship: Korea Erupts in Joy Over Home Run, “They Need to Learn Some Japanese Manners” — Legendary High School Baseball Figure Quietly Speaks Out.”

  • Satoh Teruaki, Taira Kaima, and Ito Hiromi eyeing MLB moves this offseason?

    ESPN reporter Jeff Passan reported on September 10 (September 11 JST) in an article surveying this offseason’s MLB market that three players — Seibu’s Taira Kaima, Hanshin’s Satoh Teruaki, and Nippon-Ham’s Ito Hiromi — are exploring MLB moves via the posting system. The report comes at a sensitive time, with the current collective bargaining agreement set to expire on December 1 and a lockout expected, which could affect how aggressively teams pursue reinforcements this offseason. On 5ch, reactions centered heavily on Satoh Teruaki, with opinions split between those who believe Hanshin — chasing back-to-back-to-back titles next year — would never let go of a core hitter, and those who think the team would approve the posting given the posting fee and last year’s contentious contract renewal talks.

    ESPN’s ace reporter reports on the possible U.S. moves via the posting system for Seibu’s Taira Kaima, Hanshin’s Satoh Teruaki, Nippon-Ham’s Ito Hiromi, and others (Sports Hochi) – Yahoo! News

    ESPN’s ace reporter J. Passan published an article on the 10th (the 11th JST) surveying this offseason’s free agent market. He notes that with the current collective bargaining agreement set to expire on December 1, followed by an expected lockout, teams are likely to be cautious about reinforcing their rosters this offseason.

    He adds that pitcher Taira Kaima (26) of Seibu, infielder Satoh Teruaki (27) of Hanshin, and pitcher Ito Hiromi (29) of Nippon-Ham appear to be aiming for the majors via the posting system. Taira draws the most attention in the article.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Good for Taira.
    Ito's probably headed to SoftBank after just one year, huh
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:59
    Re: #3
    Kamizawa might come back to Ham at the same time, like Arihara did
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    No way Hanshin posts Satoteru — that's a given
    They're gunning for a third straight title next year, so they need him
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:31
    Re: #7
    Pro baseball is a business that makes money
    As a company, Hanshin's current situation — winning, competing for the pennant, packed stadiums, merch flying off shelves — is already perfect. Winning two or three in a row would actually raise payroll from salary bumps and cut into profits
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:35
    Re: #7
    This year's title is already looking pretty shaky, honestly
    108AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:08
    Re: #7
    I mean, even the back-to-back looks unlikely at this point…
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:07
    Maki should get to go before Satoteru
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:09
    Re: #14
    The team won't approve Maki going
    That would kill their shot at the title
    110AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:08
    Re: #20
    They've got FUJI now, so they'll manage
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:09
    The bar for going to the majors these days is way too low, huh
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:13
    Re: #18
    The problem is guys can go to MLB on a whim because even if it doesn't work out, there's a fat contract waiting back home
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:14
    Re: #18
    Satoteru won back-to-back titles — a batting double crown last year and a triple crown this year — that's plenty
    This bar is set insanely high, actually
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:11
    Satoh's contract renewal talks were such a mess
    Wouldn't be shocked if winning the pennant or the home run title is a condition for the posting
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:30
    Re: #23
    Something like: "If I don't hit, Mr. Satoh's going to America… so please let me hit!"
    That might be what's going on
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:13
    NPB: huge attendance, but barely any attention, and even if you do great you make maybe 600 million yen
    MLB: the best league in the world. If you succeed, you get noticed. Even Fujinami got 1.01 billion yen on a minor-league deal

    Of course they'll go if they can
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:15
    Re: #25
    Even if MLB doesn't work out, NPB teams will still pay big to bring you back
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Re: #25
    NPB teams are raking it in but still lowball salaries
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:15
    Will Hanshin even approve the posting?
    They seemed pretty stubborn about it last offseason
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:33
    Re: #27
    Plan is to make Satoteru and Takina pay for the 15-billion-yen extension work on Koshien's silver roof via their posting fees
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:16
    If Satoteru goes now his salary's basically guaranteed to be over 3 billion yen — no way Hanshin keeps him
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:17
    Re: #30
    Posting is the team's call to make
    Satoteru has no say in it
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:18
    Re: #30
    Posting is a team right, not a player right
    Satoteru's still two years from free agency — there's zero benefit for Hanshin to approve it this year
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:22
    Re: #30
    Sounds like you think a player saying "I want to go" is enough to make it happen
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:21
    Either teams that don't want to see the Kamizawa/Ogasawara-style move should refuse posting until the year before international FA eligibility, or the rules should change so that returning to another NPB team within 2 years of a posting move counts as an FA move
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:23
    Re: #40
    The players' union won't sign off on something that one-sidedly disadvantages players
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:32
    Re: #40
    That's on NPB and the union for scrapping the Tazawa rule without offering any alternative
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:48
    Re: #40
    Teams that don't like it can just… not do it themselves
    Kind of rich coming from someone who posted their own guy
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:33
    If Hanshin doesn't post Satoteru after this season, they're going to catch a ton of flak
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:34
    Re: #55
    Makes no sense that refusing the posting would get them flak
    That shouldn't be allowed — what's the point of FA then
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:37
    SoftBank should just start an all-Japanese team in the majors already
    MLB's expanding to 32 teams eventually anyway, right?
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:49
    Re: #67
    They should just buy a team, like Nintendo did with the Mariners
    Bring over MLB guys stuck in a rut, send their own prospects over there — win-win
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:42
    I genuinely don't get what's so great about Taira. Maybe as a reliever he'd translate, but…
    100AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #68
    He's putting up a freakish 14% whiff rate on his fastball as a starter — numbers you'd normally only see from relief-only guys
    On top of that his splitter and varied breaking stuff, plus the deceptive angle from being short, are what scouts like
    The downside is his pitch count runs high
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:03
    Hanshin will post him if there's big money in it
    They also don't want things to end badly with Satoh and have him walk via FA never to return
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #97
    I think they'll hold onto him until the year before he's FA-eligible internationally
    Under the current system the posting fee won't be some crazy huge number
    It's not like the Igawa era, and Hanshin isn't hurting for cash, so there's no pressure to sell
    118AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    Re: #101
    Even if they're not hurting for cash
    they'll sell if it's profitable
    119AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    Re: #101
    I think this theory's the most likely one
    99AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    What is it people here don't like about Ito?
    By every measure — contribution and everything else — he's ahead of Taira
    124AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #99
    Nothing against Ito, but I can't picture him succeeding in the majors
    137AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    Re: #99
    Their average velocity and ERA are just too different
    Ito Hiromi's strength is being an innings-eater, but I think he'd give up too much in MLB to even rack up innings there

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The posting system only goes through if the team approves it — a player’s wish alone isn’t enough to make a move to the majors happen. Hanshin still holds Satoh Teruaki’s rights for two more years before he reaches free agency, and the thread was split between those who think the team would approve a posting if a hefty fee is on offer, and those who think roster needs for a title defense mean they won’t let him go. Meanwhile, opinions on Taira Kaima were mixed: his high fastball whiff rate in relief and varied breaking pitches drew praise, but some worried about his high pitch counts as a starter. And for Ito Hiromi, skeptics were vocal that his innings-eater profile might not translate to MLB, where he could give up too many long balls to rack up innings. Also worth noting: with the current CBA set to expire December 1 and a lockout expected, the timing could affect how teams approach reinforcements and posting negotiations this offseason.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanjyaku) thread “Hanshin’s Satoh Teruaki, Seibu’s Taira Kaima, and Nippon-Ham’s Ito Hiromi all eyeing MLB moves this offseason lol.”

  • U18 Baseball: Japan Blows Lead, Falls to South Korea — Closer Still Hasn’t Pitched This Tournament

    In the Super Round of the U-18 Baseball Asia Championship at Taipei Dome, Japan blew a lead and lost to South Korea 2-3. Third pitcher Ryosuke Sueyoshi allowed a shocking two runs, and closer Shoki Oda — the team’s presumed ace reliever — reportedly still hasn’t taken the mound at all this tournament. The loss leaves Japan’s hopes of an Asian title hanging by a thread. On the 5ch “Geinou/Sports Breaking News+” board, threads raised questions about pitching decisions and roster selection, while the discussion also spiraled into the usual recurring debate over which sport is stronger, baseball or soccer.

    [U-18] Japan Suffers Bitter Comeback Loss to South Korea, Asian Title Hopes on the Brink — Third Pitcher Ryosuke Sueyoshi’s Shocking 2 Runs Allowed, Closer Shoki Oda Yet to Pitch Through 4 Games… Super Round

    Sports Hochi, September 11, 2026, 16:44

    ◆14th U-18 Asia Championship ▽ Super Round: Japan 2–3 South Korea (Sept. 11, Taipei Dome, Taiwan)

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    Why the hell did we lose
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:55
    Re: #8
    With only 7 innings you can't get possession, that's why we lose.
    Just shows how little future high school baseball has once you go past 7.
    High school baseball's just a bunch of scrubs waiting for the other team to self-destruct.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:58
    Re: #21
    'Possession'? Dude's way too into soccer lol
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:03
    Re: #21
    What's 'possession' even supposed to mean in baseball?
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    Aren't you embarrassed that U18 ball only started because it wanted to be like soccer?
    Copying hated soccer and playing pretend 'world tournament,' how humiliating lol
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:56
    Re: #11
    Soccer copies 'Homelander' and does its own XX Derby thing though
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:57
    Re: #26
    Makes zero sense but it's gotta be a joke lol
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:54
    Told you already
    All the athletic guys go to soccer now
    Soccer hasn't lost in years, not even at the youth level
    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1789113238021.jpeg
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:54
    Oda's not gonna cut it with his current form
    If you know, you know
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:55
    Re: #16
    He's gonna get absolutely demolished by Taiwan's lineup wwwww

    RIP to all the Koshien hype boys wwwww
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:55
    'Under' age brackets are just ripped off from soccer anyway
    And they lost too, how lame
    122AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:16
    Re: #23
    This tournament's been around for 30 years
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:56
    Wasn't the Okinawa pitcher nursing an injury?
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:03
    Re: #31
    I think Sueyoshi was coming back from injury
    Arakaki, who was supposed to be the other ace, isn't hurt, but apparently his velocity's way down and something's off with him
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:58
    What would Harry say if he were still alive
    123AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:16
    Re: #40
    Bravo to Team Korea
    Shame on Team Japan
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:59
    This just proves Japan's whole baseball development system is wrong
    They shave their heads bald and grind like crazy, but
    If they built youth teams and let big, athletic guys train freely with science-based methods, they'd crush the high-school baseball crowd
    And yeah, they're already losing to Korea's smaller, elite squad doing exactly that
    139AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:18
    Re: #43
    Korea and Taiwan peak at this level and don't develop further as pros
    That's why they keep bringing in Japanese coaches to try to fix it
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:00
    Re: #36
    It's not about being obsessed, it's just a fact
    And soccer itself buried the 60-minute format like some demon spawn
    Both baseball and soccer end up letting the stronger side lose once you shorten the game
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:02
    Re: #50
    What is this
    Some Yomiuri fanboy?
    103AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:10
    Re: #50
    That's just how baseball's always been
    Even a weak team can win something like 40% of the time
    That's why in a short series Japan can even beat the US at the WBC
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:01
    Slight question about the roster picks
    Why not just go with 3rd-years instead of 2nd-years?
    I'd get it if that 2nd-year were some standout talent, but…
    109AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:12
    Re: #54
    Probably turned it down for entrance exams or something
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:01
    Korea's playing for real
    Japan's just going through the motions
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:02
    Re: #55
    What a lame excuse
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:08
    Is there any other ball sport where Japan loses to Korea?
    111AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:12
    Re: #92
    Soccer
    Still losing to Korea by double the score in Japan-Korea matches
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:09
    Japan finished last and still made the round of 8
    And they've beaten World Cup teams before, so it's fine
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:10
    Re: #97
    Yeah, made the round of 8 just by farming weak teams at home
    Easy sport
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:13
    Baseball's basically only played seriously in Japan, and they still lose — guess Japan's just not cut out for it

    Background and Talking Points

    This tournament’s Super Round is played over 7 innings, a different format from the 9-inning games of Japanese high school baseball. It’s a well-documented statistical tendency that the fewer innings played, the less a gap in team strength tends to show, making upsets more likely — so while the thread’s use of the soccer term “possession” is a misapplication, the underlying instinct that “shorter games favor upsets” isn’t entirely off base. Sueyoshi is one part of this tournament’s pitching staff, and with several pitchers reportedly returning from injury, it’s also notable that Oda — regarded as the team’s undisputed closer — has yet to get a chance to pitch. Much of the thread’s discussion of the loss drifted into the now-customary back-and-forth over whether baseball or soccer is the superior sport, with relatively little discussion of the actual game itself.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (“Geinou/Sports Breaking News+”) thread “[U-18 Baseball] Japan Suffers Bitter Comeback Loss to South Korea, Asian Title Hopes on the Brink — Third Pitcher Ryosuke Sueyoshi’s Shocking 2 Runs Allowed, Closer Shoki Oda Yet to Pitch Through 4 Games.”

  • U-18 Asian Baseball Championship Super Round: Japan Takes On South Korea

    On September 11, 2026, Japan’s U-18 national team faced South Korea in the Super Round of the U-18 Asian Baseball Championship. Japan started Maho Sugimoto of Omi High School, and South Korea’s decision to hold back pitcher Oda — who had been widely tipped as the starter — drew surprised reactions on the thread. Commenters in the live thread also latched onto details beyond the game itself, like the stadium’s spacious 102m foul lines and 122m to center, and an oddball mascot that can only throw underhand, while the back half of the thread saw some debate over what the preliminary round even accomplished.

    U-18 Asian Baseball Championship

    September 11, 2026 — scheduled to start at 14:30

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    Source: news.web.nhk / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:27
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    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:28
    Starting pitcher is Sugimoto Maho —
    guess Korea's left hanging if they were banking on Oda showing up?
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:28
    So they brought in Sugimoto from Omi as the DH, huh
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:28
    Break's over in 5 minutes but I'll at least keep tabs on the score online
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:29
    What is this creepy-ass mascot lol
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:30
    Mascot nerds rejoicing — this one can only throw underhand
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:31
    Ovaltine is a powdered malt drink loved worldwide, made from a base of barley malt and cocoa.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:32
    Re: #10
    Oh really? Thanks, good to know
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:31
    102m down the lines, 122m to center — that's huge. Does Japan even have a stadium like that?
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:42
    Re: #11
    Out in the countryside land's cheap, so you get these massive stadiums
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:31
    This is basically Japan's real first game of the tournament,
    so watch out for a shaky start
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:33
    The straight-on center-field camera makes it way easier to read the breaking balls
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:34
    …wait, never mind, still only 2 outs
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:35
    If they hold this team to one hit again I'm gonna lose it laughing
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:36
    They're supposed to be the strong ones, right? This'll actually be a real game today, right?
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:39
    A lefty topping out at 150 km/h, huh. This really is basically the first real game
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:40
    The young lady's getting fidgety (ojou-sama roleplay post)
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:40
    Hope he hasn't lost his rhythm after the earlier games
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:41
    Showed up late but it's still only the 1st inning
    guess today's game started at 14:30
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:41
    Not using Oda after all, huh — probably still off his game since his last mound outing at Koshien
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:48
    Insurance run キタ━(゚∀゚)━!! ("here it comes!" — a classic hype emoticon) Way to go, Mantani!
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:52
    If they let this team score even one here it'll turn into a messy back-and-forth, so I really want them to keep it scoreless
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:53
    Korea's probably thinking Japan isn't taking this seriously since Oda's not pitching
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:58
    Wonder if they've been told not to chase pitches out of the zone on this one
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:59
    Grandfather… what was it I was supposed to do again…? (in-character ojou-sama roleplay post)
    70AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:03
    Pretty solid lower half on him
    Max 157 km/h (unofficial)
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:05
    As expected of Sugimoto!

    Sugimoto: "Aw, quit it~ ///" (bashful reaction meme)
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:07
    Get at least one strike in before they pull you, come on
    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:09
    Is this Roger Clemens or what
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:09
    Re: #91
    Oh, you mean Clements from Kochi Chuo? Yeah, fair enough lol
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:11
    Isn't this backdoor pitch really tough to hit?
    110AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:20
    First time this tournament it's actually looked like normal baseball
    114AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:22
    Re: #110
    Pretty much how it goes every tournament
    149AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:45
    Did the preliminary round even matter?
    151AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:46
    Re: #149
    Not in the sense of deciding a champion
    It's also meant to grow the sport by getting more countries involved

    Background and Discussion Points

    The U-18 Asian Baseball Championship is structured so that teams who advance from the preliminary round move into a round-robin “Super Round.” Some posters on the thread, like >>149, questioned what the point of the preliminary round even was, but as >>151 explains, the tournament isn’t only about crowning a champion — it’s also meant to grow the sport across Asia by involving more participating countries. That’s not obvious from the standings alone, but tournaments built around this kind of grassroots-growth goal aren’t unusual. There was also chatter suggesting South Korea was “getting complacent” by not starting the pitcher they’d been expected to feature, but that could just as easily reflect pitch-count management or a rotation built around the final — reading intent or overconfidence purely from a lineup decision is jumping the gun.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “[Monster Koshien] U-18 Asian Baseball Championship Super Round: U-18 Japan vs. U-18 South Korea“.