Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • VTuber’s Dance Performance Sparks “Wait, Isn’t This Recorded?” Doubts — 5ch: “Since When Do Drawings Go Live?”

    A livestream commentary thread about a certain VTuber popped up on 5ch’s “Anything-Goes Live Commentary” board (Nandemo Jikkyo G). Someone posted a screenshot of the streamer — known in the thread as “Nnatan” — performing a dance, and replies flew back and forth over whether the movement on screen was live or pre-recorded, with comments like “Since when does an illustration go live?” and “Does just playing back a recorded video still count as live?” Others pushed back, saying “Nnatan actually dances for real, you know,” which turned the whole thing into a debate over how to even define a VTuber’s "live" performance. The thread also drifted into typical live-commentary chit-chat — comparing viewer counts with other streamers, and warmly reacting to the emoticon “(・o・🍬).”

    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:37
    Sorry!
    I'm closing this one down, so post over in the other thread instead 🙇‍♂
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:37
    Nna-sshoi! (a festival-chant pun on the streamer's nickname)
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:39








    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:39
    Re: #15
    Who did the dance motion/choreography?
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:40
    Re: #15
    Since when does a drawing go live?
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:41
    Re: #15
    Does just playing a recorded video still count as live?
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:39
    Nnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:39
    That's what you get for slapping such a crappy title on the thread.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:40
    Re: #19
    Nnatan actually does dance for real, you know.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:41
    Nnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 💢💢💢
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:44
    Lol nobody's even listening to "Puri Puri Princess"
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:45
    Re: #40
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:48
    I wanna toss everyone in here into a danjiri festival (a rowdy float-hauling festival).
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:48
    Glad Nnatan's Umaru-chan bit was good 🤗 (a reference to the anime character Umaru-chan)
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:50
    Not totally sure, but isn't she Hololive's pink-haired representative?
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:51
    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1791636130781.jpeg
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:51
    Funa funa funa

    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1791635828154.jpeg
    54AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:53

    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:54
    (・o・🍬)
    Not gonna lie, I kind of love this emoticon lol
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:54
    My firefighter friend said he gets 30,000 yen for working on a day off
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:55
    Re: #64
    So what?
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:55
    I want to see that gif of her neck jerking again
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:55
    Waaait, is this Nnatan's 🏰 castle?! (written in her trademark baby-talk speech style)
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:55
    If you're all so irritated, go drink some GABA (a relaxation supplement).
    75AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:56
    76AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:57
    The Sky-Octopus🐙 watch🔭 begins, nya! (・o・🍬)
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:58
    I've lived 50-something years and I'm just tired now.
    82AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:59
    Logged into Tales Weaver for the first time in ages and there was nothing to do 🥺
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:59
    Baseball media: "Shohei Ohtani is a saint"
    114AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:06
    119AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:07
    Is it really okay that the construction industry is still working Saturdays and holidays even now, in Reiwa 8 (2026)?
    123AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:11
    Re: #119
    They just get swapped for another day off
    They make you take it on a slow weekday instead, with no overtime pay.
    125AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:13
    Nnataaan isn't quiiitting Hololiiive, nyaa~❗🍬
    126AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:14
    Re: #125
    Funaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    In VTuber livestreams, it’s not unusual for song-and-dance segments to rely on motion capture for 3D models or on pre-recorded parts, and just how much counts as happening “live in the moment” varies by streamer and production. The phrase “a drawing going live,” which came up in the thread, is 5ch-style slang that jokingly separates 2D-illustration or model-based expression from real physical movement — it’s used to poke fun at the sense that a recording or heavily produced motion feels off. In this thread too, replies asking who handled the dance motion appeared right alongside questions about whether a played-back recording can really be called “live,” and no clear conclusion was reached. When judging a VTuber livestream, “whether the movement is a real person’s motion” and “whether the broadcast itself is happening in real time” are actually separate questions — and the fact that they tend to get lumped together in conversation is something readers can easily misread.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Anything-Goes Live Commentary) thread “No Limits, No Meaning!⚡(・o・🍬)🏰.”

  • Morning Musume’s Sato Masaki Leaks New Single Info at Handshake Event, Other Members’ Fans Join the Line — 5ch: “I Told Everything Because They Said Not to Lie”

    On a Hello! Project-related board, comments made by Morning Musume’s Sato Masaki (nicknamed “Ma-chan”) on a talk show became a hot topic. After taking her manager’s warning not to lie a little too literally, she reportedly told fans waiting in line at a handshake event things she wasn’t supposed to reveal — like the new single’s release date — and word spread, drawing in other members’ fans eager for info too. The thread was full of sympathy for her manager (“must be exhausting”), along with a callback to a 2016 episode where she convinced then-leader Fukumura Mizuki that it would be “minus 0°C” the next day with a made-up forecast. Once again, her reputation as someone who simply “can’t pull off a lie” became the talk of the thread.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:17
    Sato: Isn't this job kind of one where you have to lie?
    In a good way, I mean — in a good way, this is meant in a good way.
    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:17
    Ma-chan's basically Ikkyū-san (the classic anime monk famous for taking everything way too literally).
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    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:18
    Fan: "When's the new single coming out? What's the title?"
    Sato: "Sorry, I can't say that — it's confidential."

    Wouldn't that have worked just fine?
    She wouldn't even have had to lie.
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:18
    Wasn't there a member who got fired for leaking a setlist or something?
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:18
    "The next PM has already been decided by some powerful guy's wishes."
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:19
    Not totally sure what's going on, but my only takeaway is that her manager must've had a rough time.
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:20
    Sleepy Ma-chan rattling off lie after lie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H6P-_9O-tA
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:31
    Re: #8
    Being half-asleep doesn't count as lying.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:20
    The manager should've just taught her to say "I can't tell you that" lol
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:20
    Wait, so the premise is that Sato somehow knows who the next PM is? lmao
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    Good thing she's not keeping around any fans who'd blab everything.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    A letter from Fuku-chan
    https://i.ibb.co/G74Gj9P/tmp.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/JpqPSFq/tmp.jpg
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:26
    Re: #12
    Didn't know that
    Fukumura's pretty funny
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:23
    10 years ago

    Leader Fukumura Mizuki totally falls for Sato Masaki's sloppy lie, warns everyone to bundle up: "It'll be minus 0°C tomorrow! Dress warm!" [Unauthorized reposting prohibited] (c)2ch.net
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1462278381/1

    1 Name: [] Posted: 2016/05/03 (Tue) 21:26:21.79 0
    http://ameblo.jp/morningmusume-9ki/entry-12156599957.html

    Good evenin' (*´∀`*)ノん
    We had a concert today in Yuuki-chan's hometown of Hokkaido
    The venue looked so pretty with everyone doing the Ma-chan call and the soft, fluffy emerald green glow of the lightsticks
    And then Yuuki-chan totally fooled me…
    http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20160503/20/morningmusume-9ki/53/88/j/o0480035213636003244.jpg
    Yesterday she told me, "It'll be minus 0°C tomorrow! Dress warm!"

    …minus 0°C, huh
    So I went ahead and dressed somewhat warm just in case, oops oops
    Then I checked the actual weather forecast and went (@'ω'@) huh?
    Wait a secooond?! (`Δ´)!

    Well, the concert was fun and Yuuki-chan seemed to be having a blast, so I guess it's fine~
    http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20160503/20/morningmusume-9ki/88/fc/j/o0480036013636003264.jpg
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:24
    Switching the ID's zero on and off again to talk to yourself (classic sockpuppeting), huh?
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:25
    > I told them everything, seriously, because my manager scolded me for "lying"
    > I thought lying was off-limits, so I just told them everything
    > And then my manager went "Sato!" and I immediately said "Yes! Sorry!" before I even understood why

    Apologizing without even understanding what you did wrong is the worst lie of all.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:26
    If she'd been born in a different era, she seems exactly the type who'd get roped into a "tokuryu" scam gang (loosely organized crime rings that recruit members online). Really glad she became an idol instead.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:27
    She could've just said "My manager told me not to say" instead of actually lying.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:29
    The essence of humanity
    A Buddha-like world that interrogates the human psyche
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:32
    Was Ma-chan still in her first year of middle school before "Herumī"?
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:33
    Same as ever — what an eccentric one.
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:34
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUVyRSuaMAAQ1Lr.jpg
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:35
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUZS5_mW8AEH8Wa.jpg
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:36
    Turns out there's no footage left anywhere of Ma-chan's guest appearance…
    This 2016 clip is all that's left
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IWCYmRQMSDY
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:36
    "Apufuro" (short for Up-Front, the talent agency) — that's a term Kaga fans use a lot.
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:39
    Sato's almost 30 now, right?
    Still playing that character?
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:40
    Well, I guess the lesson is you have to coach her assuming she's exactly this literal-minded.
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:40
    There's actually a theory that the new era name was originally going to be "Kōbun," but it leaked, so it got changed to "Shōwa" instead (the so-called Kōbun Incident).

    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%89%E6%96%87%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:42
    The manager sitting next to her is cracking up laughing.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:46
    She'd definitely be fun as a friend
    But I wouldn't want her as family
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:46
    This is what you call a double standard, Ma-chan.
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:46
    The theory that Ma-chan's actually smart, since she can recall stuff from 5 or 10 years ago and rattle it off smoothly.
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:48
    As always, Ma's MC segments have brilliant storytelling structure.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:49
    Ma-chan's really good at telling stories, isn't she?
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:51
    Ma-chan's radio show is hilarious too lol
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:52
    That's exactly why the members and staff teamed up to pull a scare prank on her for her birthday.
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:52
    The manager just needed to teach her how to decline without lying.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:04


    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Sato Masaki joined Morning Musume in 2010 and is a popular member known by the nickname “Ma-chan.” Her honest, can’t-tell-a-lie personality has long been a running gag, and the 2016 episode cited in the thread — where she convinced then-leader Fukumura Mizuki of a made-up temperature forecast — is often cited as a prime example. There are contractual lines around what information can be revealed at handshake events and other appearances, and while her manager’s instruction not to “lie” was meant to encourage courtesy and sincerity, Sato apparently took it literally and ended up revealing undisclosed information like the new single’s release date — and that’s what sparked the discussion in the thread. Reactions split between those who found it endearingly honest and cute, and those who felt the manager’s coaching approach was at fault, with the conversation mostly unfolding as fans enjoying her quirky personality.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] Sato Masaki: “My manager told me not to lie, so I leaked confidential info to fans at a handshake event, and now other members’ fans are lining up for info too”.”

  • Palworld TCG Tops 11 Million Packs Shipped — 5ch: ‘Even 1/10 of Yu-Gi-Oh’s Numbers Is Pretty Impressive, No?’

    Bushiroad announced that combined worldwide shipment projections for the first and second sets of its “Palworld Official Card Game” trading card game will surpass 11 million packs by early November. In response, threads on the Gehabu (hardware/industry) board quickly filled with comparisons to the scale of established major TCGs like the Pokémon Card Game, One Piece Card Game, and Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG. Some pointed out that announcing “shipment numbers” rather than actual sales is itself a Sony-style tactic, and while most agreed shipment figures aren’t the same as units actually sold, the thread split over just how impressive the raw number really is.

    Bushiroad announced that the combined projected worldwide shipments for the first and second sets of its new trading card game, Palworld Official Card Game, will top 11,000,000 packs by early November.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:00
    LOL, 'units shipped'
    Same move Sony pulls
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:02
    Re: #3
    What's wrong with shipment numbers?
    That's probably the only nitpick left for you Pork-fans (ブタ/"pigs," this board's slur for Sony/PlayStation fanboys) since you can't admit Palworld Cards are a hit.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:04
    The guys using this to bash it definitely never bought a single pack.
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    Re: #4
    So what deck are you running?
    Show me the list.
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:11
    7 cards a pack, so that's 77 million cards total.
    Pokémon moves 10 billion cards a year, so this looks pretty underwhelming next to that.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:13
    That image of only 3 people showing up to the tournament really stuck with me.
    Made me think, couldn't they have at least papered the house for that one?
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:15
    🐷<Pal-Pal-Pal-Pal!💢
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:17
    Pokémon Cards: ¥190 billion
    Duel Masters: ¥50 billion
    One Piece, Yu-Gi-Oh!: ¥45 billion

    Palworld: ¥4.4 billion
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:22
    Re: #13
    If you frame it as '1/10th the size of One Piece or Yu-Gi-Oh!,' doesn't that actually sound pretty impressive?
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:23
    Re: #14
    Because wasn't the whole pitch that this would beat Pokémon?
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:42
    Re: #14
    Nope, doesn't sound impressive to me.

    If I remember right, that Pokémon figure was domestic (Japan-only) numbers.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:14
    Where's this thing actually popular?
    Pretty sure it's not Japan.
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:52
    Re: #46
    Apparently it's huge in the States.
    At least according to Bushiroad, lol.
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:26
    First-year shipment numbers were never officially announced so who knows, but everyone was playing it at school back then.
    90AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Re: #50
    Just looked it up, Pokémon Cards first released in 1996, right?
    Even if you were a 1st grader back then, you'd be around 37 or 38 now.
    51AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:27
    The Pork-fans (ブタ, this board's slur for Sony/PlayStation fanboys) always try to trash Palworld and reality keeps betraying them.
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:54
    Totally ripping off the announcement playbook Sony used to use.
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:59
    Re: #56
    Well, Sony's involved in this, so…
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:00
    Boo-chan (ブーちゃん, a mocking nickname for Sony/PlayStation fanboys) has really let Palworld take over their mind, lol.
    88AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:14
    Re: #58
    Judging by how little this thread's grown, nobody really cares, lol.
    Even the Gokis and Porks (ゴキ/ブタ, this board's slurs for Nintendo and Sony fans) who were using it as a bashing stick aren't interested, lol.
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:02
    Palworld topics just get seen as a Pokémon tie-in at this point.
    No matter how much you milk it, all that does is boost hype for Pokémon's next installment.
    65AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:38
    Re: #60
    Not even realizing you're just being laughed at for the comparison to Palworld — that's a bold look.
    Impressive.
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:29
    Oh, it actually sold well.
    I picked some up myself and built a Pentama (a Palworld creature) mono-color deck, and it's actually pretty fun.
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:42
    Palworld delivers laughs, but what does Pokémon deliver?
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:48
    Re: #66
    Even just on laughs, it can't beat a single Mega Starmie, and the laughs it gets here are the scornful kind.
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:50
    Re: #66
    Is there anything bigger than getting called 'unreasonable' by an actual government agency?
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:49
    Even on Gehabu, the people hyping up Palworld are the type who don't even know what a retail store or roadside rest stop is, or who claim the denominator is zero — it's honestly hilarious.
    72AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:52
    Re: #68
    When it's this bad, it stops being funny.
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:38
    It's bringing in foreign currency, so why bash it?
    How far does this hatred go?
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:42
    Re: #79
    If you're going there, then why not bash Pokémon too? It brings in a ridiculous amount of foreign currency.
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:40
    Pokémon does 10 billion cards a year, so that's maybe 2 billion packs a year?
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:00
    Re: #80
    Literally a different order of magnitude.

    Background and Points of Debate

    A trading card game’s “shipment number” refers to the quantity scheduled for delivery to retailers, which is different from the number actually sold to consumers (actual sales). The thread’s comparison point — “Pokémon Cards move roughly 10 billion cards a year” — is a combined domestic-and-overseas estimate, and the counting scope and time period may not line up exactly, so simple ratio comparisons should be taken with caution. The number of cards packed per pack also varies by product, making it hard to gauge market scale from pack counts alone. The thread split over how to read this 11-million-pack figure: some saw it as “impressive even at 1/10th the scale of One Piece or Yu-Gi-Oh!,” while others saw it as “underwhelming, given this was supposed to rival Pokémon.” Notably, the rivalry mentality between hardware/content camps that’s typical of the Gehabu board strongly colored how the comparison was framed.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Gehabu]) thread “[Bad News for Porky] Palworld Cards Hit Over 11 Million Packs Shipped in 3 Months.”

  • Giants Mull FA Market Entry — Scouting Hiroshima Aces Nobuhito Morishita and Hiroki Tokoda

    It was reported on October 11 that the Yomiuri Giants are considering entering this winter’s free agency market. The targets are Hiroshima Carp pitchers Nobuhito Morishita and Hiroki Tokoda, and the team is reportedly doing its homework in case either pitcher exercises his domestic free agency rights, while also looking to bolster its batting lineup. This season, the Giants’ rotation was solid — Inoue reached the qualifying number of innings pitched and finished with 10 wins, and Takemaru won 11 games in his rookie year — but their home run leader was first-year import Dalbec with 25, while the top Japanese hitters, Oshiro and Sasaki, managed only 10 each. On the thread, users debated where the two pitchers might land, argued over the Giants’ history of poaching players like Maru and Otake from Hiroshima, and voiced frustration that the team keeps adding pitching without ever fixing its lack of offense.

    It emerged on the 11th that the Giants are considering entering the free agency race this offseason. Strengthening both pitching and hitting is essential for a comeback next season. The club is reportedly doing its research in case Hiroshima’s Nobuhito Morishita (29) and Hiroki Tokoda (31) declare free agency, and is expected to keep exploring ways to reinforce its position players as well.

    Among the Giants’ starters this season, Inoue was the only one on the team to reach the qualifying number of innings pitched, finishing with 10 wins, while Takemaru won 11 in his rookie year. Despite injury absences for Togo and Yamazaki, the team built a strong rotation that also included midseason addition Ogasawara. The biggest remaining issue is the offense, but the club is carefully watching the situation around Morishita and Tokoda, who look set to be the headline pitchers of this winter’s domestic free agent market.

    On the hitting side, first-year import Dalbec hit 25 home runs, but the top Japanese home run hitters, Oshiro and Sasaki, had just 10 apiece. With the lineup in clear need of reinforcement, the team is expected to look into further additions. Last offseason, the Giants struck a surprise agreement in January with Norimoto, who had declared for international free agency from Rakuten. The club is preparing for every possible scenario.

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    Just trade that "power harassment" guy Tanaka-shou to Hiroshima
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    Hiroshima players get "picked up" on a regular schedule
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:12
    Don't need Kozono
    Bring him in and the whole clubhouse will go rotten
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:13
    There they go again, grabbing another so-so guy…
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
    Re: #8
    Domestic FA only nets you pitchers who couldn't make it to the majors
    Of course it's underwhelming
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    Don't they want Kikuchi?
    He's FA-eligible too, right?
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:48
    Re: #9
    Kikuchi signed a lifetime contract
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    While they're at it, take Kozono, Yano, and Maekawa as a bundle too
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
    First off, the Giants need to put names on their uniforms
    I don't recognize anyone's face except Ma-kun, Sakamoto, and Norimoto
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:24
    Re: #13
    You'd at least recognize Maru, lol
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
    How is this any different from tampering?
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Re: #14
    It's tampering if a team directly contacts another team's player before he declares free agency,
    but a report saying "once he declares, we'll move on him" isn't tampering.

    The media's just writing this on their own —
    the club hasn't officially announced anything
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Tokoda doesn't build up much of a winning record though — is that really okay?
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:57
    Re: #16
    That's only because he's on the Carp
    With real run support from another team's lineup, he could still win double digits
    A 5-win pitcher on the Carp or Rakuten is worth 10 wins anywhere else
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Back in the day they only collected cleanup hitters
    now it's all starting pitchers
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Hiroshima-to-Orix is the standard route these days
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Guess they're relying on imports for offense? Doesn't look like they can expect a homegrown slugger
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    Players the Giants have "plundered" from the Carp:
    Kawaguchi, Eto, Maru, Otake, Nishiyama
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:58
    Re: #24
    Losing Otake didn't really hurt Hiroshima
    If anything, the Giants giving up Ichioka in that deal feels like the bigger loss for them
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    But the manager absolutely refuses to recognize anyone who isn't homegrown
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Guess the Giants really do need to bring back the old "reverse designation" draft system to get strong again (a defunct rule letting top prospects pick their team)
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Players the Giants have "plundered" from the Carp:
    Kawaguchi, Eto, Maru, Otake, Nishiyama, Kimutaku
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Are they making contact with Kozono behind the scenes?
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Rather than throwing big money at these guys, they'd be better off trading 1 billion yen for one of the young players SoftBank's been developing on their farm team
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    If they just scoop up all the guys who stayed in Japan instead of going overseas, they could beat Yokohama and Hanshin
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    I see…
    So Manager Hara really is making his comeback next season…
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    This kind of repeated plundering is exactly why pro baseball got boring
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:32
    Both Morishita and Tokoda are well past their peak at this point, but the timing — and everything else about it — is just so "Giants"
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:36
    Sasaoka's record as manager was garbage, but his draft picks were genuinely solid
    Since Arai took over they haven't landed a single decent player
    the pitching staff is going to be in real trouble from next year on
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:42
    Re: #43
    It was Ogata who tanked the results — Sasaoka was brought in to rebuild
    Then COVID hit out of nowhere… but even through that he handled the draft and FA retention solidly
    I'd like to see Sasaoka back in charge again someday
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:41
    The Giants aren't getting either of these two
    Tokoda's going to Orix, surely
    Hanshin might make a move for Morishita, but Orix is a possibility there too
    If Hanshin does move, it'll probably be for Sakakura — a catcher who can also play first or third would be a huge addition for a Hanshin team that's likely to lose Sato
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:44
    Re: #47
    Morishita's probably headed to MLB or SoftBank
    Tokoda probably wants to go home to Osaka — Kuri and Nishikawa are there too
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:48
    Doesn't really look like they're short on starters, though
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:50
    Re: #53
    The only ones you can really count on are Inoue, Togo, Iori, and Ogasawara
    For the 5th and 6th spots, probably Nishidate, Ma-kun, and a new import
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:51
    Re: #55
    Iori's shoulder pain might never fully heal
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:58
    Re: #55
    Why does Kuwata get such high marks when the pitching staff is in such rough shape…?
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:56
    This team's an idiot for only picking up pitchers
    when they can barely scratch out a single run
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:59
    Re: #62
    Well, the Giants' whole philosophy now is pitching-and-defense-first baseball
    It's a total 180 from the old Giants
    93AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:15
    If you're really into player development, just go support a team that's good at it
    Or watch high school baseball instead —
    you'll get to see young players grow by leaps and bounds, which is exactly what you want
    Honestly, an NPB top team shouldn't be a development ground in the first place
    Lately the Giants seem to have lost their minds and are drifting toward a development-focused approach,
    but that's a job better left to other teams

    Background and Key Debate Points

    Domestic free agency requires at least 8 years on the top-team roster (7 for players who joined straight out of high school) plus a certain level of performance, and it’s rare for two ace-caliber pitchers to become eligible at the same time. Morishita and Tokoda are both centerpieces of Hiroshima’s rotation, so it’s not just the Giants — multiple teams are likely watching their situation closely. Opinion on the thread split over the Giants’ continued focus on pitching reinforcements: while the rotation was solid this season, commenters pointed to a clear weakness at the plate, noting that import Dalbec led the team in home runs. It’s also worth noting that, as of this report, neither pitcher has actually declared free agency — a team directly contacting a player before he declares would violate tampering rules, so this “research” remains at the preparatory, report-driven stage. The Giants have a history of acquiring Hiroshima-raised players before, including Yoshihiro Maru and Hiroshi Otake, which is part of why some commenters pushed back against framing this as the Giants “plundering” talent yet again.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] Giants Considering FA Market Entry! Advancing Research on Hiroshima’s Nobuhito Morishita and Hiroki Tokoda.”

  • Yokohama Ryusei’s “Cold-Shoulder” Act Splits Opinion — 5ch: “‘Hadn’t Eaten All Day’? What Kind of Excuse Is That?”

    On the October 10 broadcast of TBS’s “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn,” Yokohama Ryusei took on the show’s signature “Pressure Archery” challenge as the representative for the cast of the drama “LOST10.” His demeanor during the live broadcast drew attention as “cold-shoulder” behavior, and he reportedly grumbled on the day that he “hadn’t eaten anything since morning.” On 5ch, opinions split between those sympathizing with him over fatigue and hunger from the long live broadcast, and those criticizing his lack of warmth, with many posts comparing his attitude to that of fellow cast members Oguri Shun and Kamishiraishi Mone, who appeared on the same show.

    October 11, 2026, 18:05

    On October 10, actor Yokohama Ryusei appeared on the major special program “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn: 70th Broadcast Anniversary Special” (TBS). He took part in the show’s signature segment, “Pressure Archery.”

    In this segment, a representative attempts archery live in the studio. The target has a high-score zone, and hitting the center earns the maximum 1,000 points along with a luxury prize. Yokohama competed as the representative for the cast of this fall’s leading drama “LOST10.”

    Source: smart-flash.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:03
    Wasn't he friends with Gaasyy? (the scandal-plagued ex-YouTuber-turned-lawmaker)
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:06
    Re: #4
    That's Jun from London Boots (comedy duo London Boots Ichigo Nigo)
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:04
    He was sulking. He clearly didn't want to be there.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:05
    He's an actor, and he still has to go on these flashy variety shows hyping things up with full service-spirit energy?
    Guys who aren't naturally cheerful types to begin with, like Oizumi Yo or Muro, really draw the short straw.
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:07
    Normally they'd throw an idol in as a bonus pick to handle the promo duties.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:07
    That was awful. Oguri Shun's stock just went up though.
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:10
    Re: #9
    Well, Oguri's the president of his own talent agency lol
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    Re: #9
    Oguri got caught in the crossfire over that Keroro movie thing even though it wasn't his fault, and got flamed for it. Glad his reputation's recovering.
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:33
    Re: #9
    He kept doing that smartphone-voice impression of Doramu over and over, it came off badly.
    The host, Imada, was also being annoyingly persistent with questions seemingly designed so Doramu couldn't answer without the voice bit — that felt mean too.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:07
    Yokosuka-kun is a good guy!
    77AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:42
    Re: #10
    He was lively on "Ota-Ueda" though
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:09
    Well yeah, his attitude was bad when Imada threw him a question too, but he's still just a kid.
    Total man-child.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:09
    "I hadn't eaten" — what kind of excuse is that lmaooooooooooo
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:09
    That's just how super-popular idols are.
    It's all about their mood.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:10
    He's good-looking so he's forgiven.
    Ryusei's more handsome than Piri-chan anyway.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:10
    He should've just shouted "Fire!" like Abe Hiroshi does.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:10
    I was watching and he wasn't really sulking.
    He was doing a bit where he pretended to cough and act sick as a joke.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:12
    That listless, can't-be-bothered vibe of his is no good.
    Replace him as the lead.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:12
    Did the Thanksgiving Festival get rid of the meal-break time?
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:13
    I feel like it'd get way more exciting if Shimada Shinsuke came back and they just threw compliance out the window.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:15
    The drama work alone is hard enough, and then he's dragged into some dumb variety show for "promo" (lol), and if he's not cheerful enough he gets slammed like this — kind of sad.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:20
    Re: #21
    Especially since Thanksgiving Festival is a long live broadcast, I bet it's tough.
    Kamishiraishi Mone always handles her responses so well — she really seems on top of it.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:32
    Re: #21
    Celebrities are in a kind of service industry too, right?
    Would you really have no reaction to a store clerk who's incredibly rude?
    78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:43
    Re: #21
    Promoting the show and asking people to watch it is part of an actor's job too.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:17
    He was probably busy with the climax season (of filming), right?
    ?
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:18
    The meal-time segment was my favorite part of All-Star Thanksgiving Festival — don't tell me they got rid of it?
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:19
    He got flamed recently for saying he's not into BL (boys' love) so he won't do those roles.
    Well, he's not an idol, so I guess it's fine — his actual work gets high marks anyway.
    But lately that too-cool, kind of cynical-smirk type of attitude gets hated on, you know? Still, the always-smiling type is more reassuring to watch.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:20
    Is this the guy who got flamed for saying "women should walk three steps behind and follow"?
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:25
    Re: #26
    It's more like "I want to provide for you, so follow me" — that's actually impressive.
    Plenty of guys out there won't even do that, split the bill on dates, and still try to get in your pants. Young guys should take a page from this one.
    Gifts and a proper date budget — you've gotta cover it even if it means going into debt.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:21
    So yesterday all he ate was water and eyebrows?
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    There's plenty of time to grab a rice ball or something while moving between locations.
    It's not that he can't eat, he just doesn't try to.
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:23
    Re: #29
    There's probably also the fear of needing the bathroom mid-show if he eats.
    I get that feeling.
    Though if he'd had one of those quick-charge energy jellies, it might've gone differently.
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    Don't go giving cold, detached comments on a variety show.
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:22
    A nutrition jelly or a smoothie would've done just fine.
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:32
    He's an actor first and foremost — no need to expect that much from him on this stuff.
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 14:34
    Re: #56
    Then he should've just turned it down from the start.
    He surely knows what Thanksgiving Festival is all about.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    “Pressure Archery” on “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival” is a recurring segment where a representative from each show’s cast competes live on air to hit a target for prizes, and Yokohama served as his drama’s representative as part of its promotional push. The thread split between two camps: one holding that “celebrities are in the service industry, so being personable is part of the job,” and the other arguing that “his real job is acting, and it’s understandable for his mood to sour if he’s hungry during a long live broadcast.” Many posts also drew unfavorable comparisons to fellow cast members Oguri Shun and Kamishiraishi Mone, who were praised for handling themselves well on the same show. That said, the thread never established exactly what his travel and shooting schedule looked like that day — the premise that he was “extremely busy” comes from the original news report itself and was not something verified within the 5ch thread.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Yokohama Ryusei’s “Cold-Shoulder” Reaction During Archery at “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival” Stirs Controversy… The “Packed Schedule” That Day When He Let Slip “I Haven’t Eaten Since Morning” [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Nintendo: “No Plans to Scrap Physical Games” — 5ch Erupts: “PA-PA-PACKAAAAGE, YEAAAH!”

    In an interview with nintendoeverything.com, Nintendo stated clearly that it has no plans to discontinue physical versions of its games. The company said it has always maintained a stance that favors neither digital nor physical, citing the fact that even Switch2, which launched only about a year ago, offers both sales formats. On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board, many comments welcomed the statement, while others pointed out the contrast with Sony, which has been scaling back disc drives, and still others voiced skepticism that the policy could change again down the line — reactions were far from uniform.

    Well, it’s pretty much a given, but it’s reassuring to hear

    Source: nintendoeverything.com / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:22
    Nintendo: "No plans to discontinue Game-Key Cards either"
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:26
    Re: #4
    Going forward, the functionality will stay as Game-Key Cards
    People have been pointing out for ages that stuff could get added to what's on the key card

    Nintendo tends to tie its own hands and ends up throwing away business opportunities, which creates weird situations
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:23
    We've always kept to a stance that doesn't favor one over the other.
    We put consumer preference first and take that very seriously.
    Also, this is still a platform we only just launched.
    NS2 has been out for just over a year, but it already offers both digital and physical.
    We have no plans to discontinue physical.
    We also know how much fans love physical, which is why we've kept to a stance that doesn't lean either way.

    (Full quote)
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:28
    Re: #5
    Publishers make physical copies because fans ask for them — it's not the other way around
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:36
    Re: #13
    CC2's Matsuyama: "Scrapping physical is nothing but good"
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:25
    He's been spouting that wishful "it'll get axed eventually!" line forever, hasn't he
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:38
    Re: #8
    They've got to keep pushing some "both sides do it" argument, or the damage piling up on the brand image they're clinging to stops being a joke and they can't keep fooling the clueless marks anymore — so yeah, a little absurd, sleazy blame-shifting comes with the territory, right?
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:27
    PS6's gonna copy Nintendo and go with a dongle-based key-card system too

    Just wait and see
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:07
    Re: #12
    They're stingy enough to quit discs that cost like tens of yen a press — no way they'd bother making a dongle
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:30
    Seeing the mess Sony made by going first lets Nintendo be more careful going forward — good for them
    Honestly, I bet every publisher doing digital sales owes Sony a quiet thank-you in a way
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:34
    Re: #17
    No, Nintendo set things up with Catalog Tickets so it'd work out fine either way, physical or digital, didn't they?
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:30
    They went as far as making Game-Key Cards, so of course that's their stance
    Not like Sony, just dropping discs with no alternative in place
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:36
    Re: #18
    No cushion, no warning — just BAM, straight off the top
    Users must be totally crushed
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:37
    For fabless Nintendo, outsourced manufacturing of game software is a key revenue stream too, so they won't be quitting it

    Pretty different situation from Sony, who actually owns factories
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:02
    Re: #26
    lol
    Optical discs barely get used for anything but games these days lol
    If they priced Blu-ray discs so the BD business wasn't running a loss, it'd probably come out to like 100,000 yen lol
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:39
    The whole "digital vs. physical" phrasing bugs me a little
    Both downloaded data and whatever's recorded on a game card are digital data either way
    If some clueless trash media outlet or random person said it, fine, but… (´・ω・`)
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:01
    Re: #28
    It's about the product format offered to customers, so of course it gets phrased that way, right?
    What would even be the "correct" way to say it instead?
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:42
    Well, the console's only got 256GB of junk storage, so of course they can't quit physical
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:44
    Re: #32
    Thanks to that, they're still somehow holding on even in these parts-price-gouging chaotic times
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:49
    Re: #32
    PS5's 800GB is ridiculously small too though…
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:50
    Sony: "We're dropping discs, but we never said we're dropping physical copies"
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:53
    Re: #46
    Retailers: "Whether we stock it or not is our call"
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:58
    Re: #46
    Is a code-in-a-box really what people who've been buying discs all along actually want?
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:58
    Guess from now on you'll be running around with your PS5 clamped in your mouth

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBS8N3tbEAA3C7U.jpg
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:59




    The first one to turn into a flimsy piece of paper was the "Buhitch" (a mocking 5ch nickname for the Switch)
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:01
    Of course Nintendo can't do it
    Most of their users can't even manage a credit card
    61AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:01
    Re: #58
    That's PS users you're talking about
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:02
    Re: #58
    Don't mock Sony when they're the ones who leaked people's credit card info
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:15
    Can't help it, Switch2's digital ratio is only 20%


    Chris Dring: "The Switch2 version of Resident Evil Requiem has a 20% digital ratio — Switch2 runs low on digital ratio for third-party titles"
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1773471355/

    Switch2's Cyberpunk 2077 has a 24% digital ratio ← lmaooo
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1759217169/
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
    Can't help it, Switch2's digital ratio is only 20%


    Chris Dring: "The Switch2 version of Resident Evil Requiem has a 20% digital ratio — Switch2 runs low on digital ratio for third-party titles"
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1773471355/

    Switch2's Cyberpunk 2077 has a 24% digital ratio ← lmaooo
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1759217169/
    83AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
    Re: #79
    Re: #80
    Totally left behind by the times
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:20
    Sony dropping discs means their digital ratio hits 100%
    Good for them
    88AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Re: #84
    Guess we won't be able to make out anything anymore
    The numbers will probably all get lumped together and rounded off
    89AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Re: #84
    Though sales drop to zero
    90AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Still, buying a Game-Key Card doesn't exactly make for a collection though
    105AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:33
    Re: #90
    It does count as a collection — it's still a physical card after all. Planning to collect the whole FF7 Remake trilogy
    97AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    Semiconductor prices are going up in November, and they said there were no plans for a price hike, then raised prices anyway
    Nintendo just does stuff out of nowhere, so you never know
    99AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:30
    Re: #97
    This kind of thing isn't even something the person actually said in the first place
    The thread title's basically clickbait fraud

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Nintendo’s statement that it has no plans to discontinue physical game releases comes from an interview with nintendoeverything.com, in which it emphasized a stance that favors neither digital nor physical. The backdrop is an industry trend in which Sony has been scaling back disc-drive models in the PS5 lineup and moving toward an all-digital future. Where opinion split on the thread was over how to judge Nintendo’s response. Many contrasted Nintendo — which has offered Game-Key Cards since Switch2 launched, preserving a choice between digital and physical — with Sony, which dropped discs without offering any alternative. At the same time, the fact that Game-Key Cards are physical cards that still require a download, and so differ in nature from the traditional notion of “physical = a complete, self-contained storage medium,” was only touched on lightly in the replies and never really spelled out. There was also skepticism that a “we won’t discontinue it” statement doesn’t bind future policy, with some citing past cases where Nintendo reversed course on price-hike plans.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread “Nintendo: “No Plans to Discontinue Physical Copies”.”

  • Tatsuro Yamashita on YMO: “Why They Were So Amazing”

    Singer-songwriter Tatsuro Yamashita (73) appeared via audio on the October 11 broadcast of ABC/TV Asahi’s “EIGHT-JAM,” giving his first long-form interview in four years and discussing YMO (Yellow Magic Orchestra). On 5ch, a thread sparked wide-ranging discussion covering musical topics like Isao Tomita’s influence, Yukihiro Takahashi’s drumming, and Ryuichi Sakamoto’s synthesizer work, as well as diverging opinions on Yamashita’s own career achievements.

    Tatsuro Yamashita on legendary techno unit YMO: “Why they were so amazing,” “People like that are rare”

    Mon, Oct 12, 12:19

    Singer-songwriter Tatsuro Yamashita (73) appeared via audio on the October 11 broadcast of ABC/TV Asahi’s “EIGHT-JAM” (Sundays, 11:15 PM), giving his first long-form interview in four years.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:47
    I wonder what he got in return for providing songs to Johnny's (the talent agency).
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:51
    Re: #16
    He was making a living through music.
    There was even an era when just that was hard to pull off.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:48
    Yukihiro wasn't just rock-solid, precision drumming — he also got made to sing in English lyrics, getting drilled hard by Peter Barakan.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:49
    Did the obsessive posting about Haruomi Hosono make a comeback lately?
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:49
    2025.10.5
    Tatsuro Yamashita set to appear on "EIGHT-JAM" on the 11th, talks about his live album "JOY 2," his first in 37 years
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1791182616/125-
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:49
    Also, that bit about matching registers — I feel like John Lennon said something similar in the "Let It Be" film, something like the piano and guitar tones should probably be matched up.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:55
    A guy who's been active for about half a century and the only song the general public actually recognizes is 'Christmas Eve.'
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:58
    Re: #28
    Honestly there are plenty of his songs people have heard, and besides — most people who stay active for half a century leave behind nothing at all.
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:04
    Re: #28
    By that logic Hamasho (Shogo Hamada) is just a one-hit wonder too, cashing in on one song.
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:59
    He's got a few good songs, but there are plenty of other artists like that too. This guy is way overrated.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    Re: #37
    What he created was more about sound and style than individual songs — in a way that's a bigger achievement than leaving behind one big hit.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:07
    I figured he was going to trash-talk YMO too, but…
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:08
    Re: #40
    Turns out it's a story about him surrendering to them.
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:10
    It's amazing that three guys who weren't doing techno before YMO suddenly could make techno music. Hosono came from the same lineage as Eiichi Otaki and Tatsuro — so how did he pull it off? Tatsuro Yamashita sure wouldn't make techno dance music, right? That's what makes it strange.
    76AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:37
    Re: #44
    Isao Tomita looms large in the synth world — YMO's formation also had backing from Tomita's camp. There was also the groundbreaking leap in digital gear, and they got ahead of that curve. My guess is Hosono originally just wanted to do something simpler, a fusion-ish thing with synths — but then a genius named Sakamoto turned out to be way beyond anyone's expectations.
    78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:37
    Re: #44
    Before YMO, Ryuichi Sakamoto put out an album called 'Thousand Knives' that was built entirely around synth sound.
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    Every YMO song sounds the same to me.
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:38
    Re: #57
    It's not so much that they sound the same — even knowing both the title and the song, they just don't line up in your head. You hear the song and think 'wait, what's this one called again?' Someone says the title and you think 'wait, how did that one go again?'
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Something like 'Chinese Woman' could easily get called out as discriminatory if you're not careful by today's standards — though there was a Western song called 'Japanese Boy' too.
    75AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:36
    Re: #62
    It's just a reference to a Godard film title — 'La Chinoise' ('The Chinese Girl').
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:35
    Every so often someone says Yukihiro Takahashi was amazing, but amazing how, exactly? It never lands because nobody's specific.
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:38
    Re: #73
    He was a great drummer.
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:40
    Re: #76
    All three members of YMO were actually bad with machines — the technical side was handled by Matsutake (a disciple of Isao Tomita).
    89AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:47
    Re: #81
    Yeah, that tracks — none of them come off as machine geeks. Tomita, meanwhile, had already put out a synth version of Star Wars back around '77, so he was way ahead of his time.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    YMO was formed in 1978 by Haruomi Hosono, Yukihiro Takahashi, and Ryuichi Sakamoto as a techno unit, and as the thread touches on, it’s a lesser-known fact that the actual equipment operation was handled by Hideki Matsutake, a disciple of Isao Tomita. Before YMO formed, Ryuichi Sakamoto had already pursued synth sounds on his album “Thousand Knives,” showing that YMO’s sound didn’t spring up out of nowhere. Opinions split over how to rate Yamashita’s own career, with some arguing he has no signature song besides “Christmas Eve” and others countering that he has plenty of other hits. There’s also lingering tension from 2023, when Yamashita made remarks defending the founder of the former Johnny’s talent agency even after the agency’s sexual abuse scandal came to light — a divide that shows up in this thread too. That said, posts amounting to insults about appearance or discriminatory language have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread “[TV] Tatsuro Yamashita on legendary techno unit YMO: “Why they were so amazing,” “People like that are rare”.”

  • Gold Medal, Yet Benched: Fans Question the Brass Band Contest’s Baffling ‘Dame-Kin’ Tradition

    The All-Japan Band Association Championship draws roughly 10,000 ensembles across four divisions — middle school, high school, university, and workplace/general — all vying for a spot in the national finals after regional contests that kick off in June. Ensembles are rated Gold, Silver, or Bronze based on performance level, but because the number of slots to advance is limited, some ensembles that win Gold still don’t get picked to move up. On 5ch, the term itself — “dame-kin” (literally “failed gold,” used for a Gold-winning ensemble that doesn’t advance) — along with the confusing selection system, drew a wave of questions and proposals, including ideas to score performances numerically or add more award tiers.

    “Even though it’s a Gold Medal, they call it a ‘Dame-Kin’…” Doubts raised over the brass band contest’s puzzling custom — why can’t Gold medalists advance? We asked people in the brass band world

    The 74th All-Japan Band Association Championship is about to reach its national finals. Roughly 10,000 ensembles across four divisions — middle school, high school, university, and workplace/general — entered, and since the regional contests began in June, they’ve been competing for a ticket to the nationals. Amid this, one term keeps coming up in debates on social media: “dame-kin,” used for ensembles that win Gold but still aren’t chosen to advance to the next round. Why can’t a Gold-medal ensemble move up, and how do the people involved feel about the term “dame-kin”? We spoke to people connected to brass bands.

    Winning Gold at a district or regional contest but not being selected to advance to the next round — ensembles like this are called “dame-kin.”

    Source: shueisha.online / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
    https://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/a/aoccoon/20200323/20200323214810.jpg
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
    Make a 'Platinum' or 'Crystal' award for the ones who actually get picked to advance
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    So it's like… you only shine on the midterm and final exams, but bomb the practice tests and the actual entrance exam?
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:24
    Re: #5
    Hmm, that's not a great comparison…
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:43
    Re: #5
    It's the same as letter grades or ◎○△ ratings. There are fixed cutoffs — score this high and you get Gold, this high and you get Silver — and that three-tier rating is announced first. Which schools advance gets announced afterward, and schools that got Gold but don't advance are the "dame-kin." As an exam analogy, it's like scoring within the passing range on the entrance exam but still getting rejected.
    72AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
    Re: #5
    That's completely different. By that analogy, a dame-kin school probably wouldn't pass either test.
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
    Just give Gold only to the schools that actually advance to the next round.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
    Re: #7
    The gap between Silver and dame-kin is so huge that there'd be real pushback against just treating dame-kin as Silver.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    Re: #11
    The problem is trying to force everyone into either Gold or Silver. Just do what other competitions do — top 3 schools get Gold, Silver, and Bronze. Everyone else gets a participation award.
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
    Re: #11
    Honestly, forget awards at this point — just use numerical scores. You'll get it if you can do basic math.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
    They should just rank everyone 1st through 10th. This whole mess started because some idiot came up with 'Gold/Silver/Bronze.'
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:33
    Re: #9
    There is a ranking — some regions just don't make it public, apparently.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
    School music competitions like this are decided by the advisor's connections anyway, aren't they?
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:21
    Brass band club — a sports team wearing the skin of a 'culture club.'

    I did six years of it through middle and high school, and I'll say it flat out: it's tougher than any actual sports team.
    92AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:58
    Re: #14
    Brass band clubs eat up way too much practice time — how do they end up keeping you longer than sports teams? Even third-years give up their entire summer break and get dragged into practice through September. Sports club kids get to start studying for entrance exams once their tournament ends.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:22
    Do it like Super Saiyan — Gold 2, Gold 3, Gold God.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:22
    Sounds like a name Kin-chan's show would come up with. (referencing comedian Kinichi Hagimoto, known for his show's quirky naming gimmicks)
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:30
    Re: #18
    Well, it is literally 'Hagi-kin' after all. (Hagimoto's own nickname — a pun on 'dame-kin')
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Just create a Platinum award and put it above Gold.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:24
    Sound! Euphonium totally ignored the baseball team they were supposed to be cheering for, huh. (referencing the anime about a high school brass band)
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:44
    Re: #22
    Kitauji's baseball team is so weak there's no need to even send Monaka to cheer them on. (a character from Sound! Euphonium)
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Brass band, dance, whatever — in the end, performing later in the lineup just tends to score higher.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    I think part of the problem is Bronze almost never gets awarded. Is there some reason they stopped using it?
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    Re: #25
    The real issue is that the vast majority end up with Silver. If you're going to sort everyone into a tier no matter what, make most of them Bronze instead.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    I actually learned about this whole dame-kin thing in brass band contests through Sound! Euphonium.

    Well, like Re: #1 says, even if only the bands that advance get Gold, you'd just get people going 'We played really well and we still only got Silver?!' So honestly, it's hard to say whether that's actually better than the current system with dame-kin.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:26
    Why? Because the number of slots is limited. That's it.
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    Didn't they come up with that term themselves?
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Do we really need a Platinum award?
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:39
    Re: #31
    Isn't platinum worth less than half of gold [by price]?
    91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:57
    Re: #57
    Then how about this instead —

    Osmium (Os)
    Weight (density):
    About 22.59 g/cm³ (the densest/heaviest naturally occurring element on Earth)
    Far exceeds gold's density (about 19.3 g/cm³) and even uranium's — at the same volume, it's heavier than gold.

    Price:
    Varies depending on supply and form (e.g., crystal form), but high-purity ingots or crystals are extremely expensive, sometimes reaching several times to several dozen times the per-gram price of gold.
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Never gotten a dame-kin myself — every Gold I ever won at the district, prefectural, and regional level came with advancement.
    69AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:44
    They should just make a Platinum or Diamond award.
    Think about how the kids feel — getting hyped over winning Gold and then finding out they can't advance.
    78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:48
    Re: #69
    Just going by what I've seen in the anime, but when Gold gets announced first, there's still a chance it'll turn out to be dame-kin, so the reaction at that point seems more like a light fist-pump. It's only after every school's result is announced, and then the schools advancing to the next contest get called out, that it turns into a real celebration.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
    If there are 5 slots, give Gold to the top 3 and Silver to the rest. Then just pick 2 more from the Silver group. Being called an 'Ike-Gin' ('made-it Silver') would actually feel pretty good.
    85AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:55
    Re: #74
    Gold is awarded based on performance level, isn't it?
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:52
    It's a judged event, after all — there's probably some 'grown-up circumstances' (politics) at play.
    87AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:56
    Re: #80
    There definitely is. A famous advisor/conductor makes it easier to advance. And the moment the advisor changes, a band can suddenly become weak.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    At the root of “dame-kin” lies the brass band contest’s rating system itself. Gold, Silver, and Bronze are announced first as an absolute evaluation of performance level, but the number of representatives who can advance to the next round is set by a fixed quota per branch or prefecture — so when more ensembles win Gold than there are available slots, some of them end up not advancing. On the thread, confusion about this system was common, with many assuming “winning Gold should mean advancing,” leading to a split between those proposing new award tiers like a Platinum award and those defending the current system, which separates absolute ratings from selection quotas. Neither the article nor the thread addresses the institutional history of why the award names and quota system haven’t been revisited over the years.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “‘Even though it’s Gold, they call it “Dame-Kin”…’ Doubts raised over the brass band contest’s puzzling custom — why can’t Gold medalists advance?“

  • Ohtani Snaps 12-At-Bat Hitless Skid, But Dodgers Fall in Comeback Loss — Yamamoto Starts NLCS Game 2

    In Game 1 of the NL Championship Series, the Dodgers blew a lead on the road in Milwaukee and fell to the Brewers 2-1, snapping a 7-game postseason winning streak that had stood since the 2018 NLCS. Shohei Ohtani, starting and batting cleanup, scored the Dodgers’ first run after reaching on a walk, and also snapped a 12-plate-appearance hitless streak spanning three games with a base hit — but went just 1-for-3 overall and extended his career-worst homerless streak to 106 plate appearances. Yoshinobu Yamamoto will start Game 2. On 5ch, posters traded worries about Ohtani’s slump, voiced hope for Yamamoto, and remarked on the raw energy of the Brewers’ home crowd.

    ◆MLB — NL Championship Series Game 1: Brewers 2, Dodgers 1 (Oct. 11, American Family Field, Milwaukee, Wisconsin)

    The NL West champion Dodgers fell to 0-1 in the series after blowing a lead on the road against the Brewers in Game 1 of the NLCS on Oct. 11 (Oct. 12 Japan time). The Dodgers hadn’t lost to the Brewers in the postseason since dropping Game 7 of the 2018 NLCS, going 7-0 against them across the 2020 Wild Card Series and this year’s NLCS — but that streak ended with this loss.

    Shohei Ohtani (32), starting at designated hitter and batting cleanup, drew the walk that set up the Dodgers’ first run and also picked up his first hit in 12 plate appearances across three games, but went 1-for-3 to extend his career-worst homerless streak to 106 plate appearances. Yoshinobu Yamamoto (28) will start Game 2 on the road tomorrow, Oct. 12 (Oct. 13 Japan time). Roki Sasaki (24) did not appear in the game.

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:09
    If Yoshinobu pitches well tomorrow in this situation and the Dodgers win, he's seriously a god.
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:09
    If Yamamoto wins tomorrow in this state, 'legend' doesn't even begin to cover it.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:10
    Looking at the season numbers, the Dodgers are probably getting eliminated here. But Ohtani's got the eyes of a dead fish. What happened to him?
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:10
    If even Yamamoto gets beaten, it's over.
    Maybe it's better if it does end — a three-peat would make the offseason a total mess.
    Just please don't let this mess with Sato-teru's contract talks (nickname for Hanshin Tigers slugger Teruaki Sato, rumored to be MLB-bound).
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    Their one run came off Ohtani, and he got a hit too.
    Don't trash on him like he's garbage lol
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    He's really settling into the 'scapegoat' role now.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    The crowd noise in Milwaukee was insane.
    Once you hit the postseason, the hometown energy is on a whole different level.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:11
    The Brewers just won like the Brewers, and the Dodgers just lost like the Dodgers.
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:12
    Ohtani's in a terrible slump and he's still batting cleanup two games running.
    Unlike NPB, where the No. 4 spot means 'the big slugger,' in MLB it really is just literally whoever bats fourth.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:12
    Teams without Japanese players sure are strong (´・ω・`)
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:13
    Yoshinobu Yamamoto will probably be fine,

    but Snell and Glasnow must be getting nervous lol
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:13
    Skubal too, man.
    He gives up 2-3 runs pretty much every game.
    I always pictured him as a guy who allows one run or fewer.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:14
    Re: #19
    Probably just the gap between the AL and NL.

    Kind of like the Central League vs. Pacific League thing (NPB's two leagues).
    95AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    Re: #19
    Makes you think, 'huh, so this is what a two-time Cy Young winner looks like.'
    Well, the pressure's probably different between the Tigers and the Dodgers.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:15
    Honestly I'd rather see the Brewers reach the World Series than the Dodgers, who are sick of winning by now.
    I just want the Japanese players to shine.
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:15
    Re: #26
    Yeah but, you know… the ad revenue…
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
    Might've been tough to pull off, but with the bases loaded against Misiorowski, if it's Kiké up there, they should've just squeezed and stolen a page from the Brewers' own playbook.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Re: #36
    He's slow, so it'd just turn into a double play.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    Yoshinobu's legend might be about to crack.
    77AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Re: #40
    People call him a cyborg, but
    he might start showing us he's human pretty soon.
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
    What about the Brewers' pitchers besides Misiorowski? Are they hittable?
    51AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
    Re: #45
    Nothing but scrubs, so they'll get pounded lol
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    No matter how well Yamamoto pitches, he can't win without run support.
    My prediction: tomorrow Yamamoto goes 9 innings, 1 run allowed, and still takes the loss.
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Re: #71
    Brewers 2, Dodgers 1
    Yamamoto: 8 IP, 1 ER, 12 K
    Diaz: allows 1 run
    Shohei Ohtani: 1 HR

    If they lose like that, everyone would accept it.
    75AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    So Yamamoto's getting saddled with a start that's got everything riding on it again, huh.
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:26
    Re: #75
    That's only if Yoshinobu Yamamoto even pitches Game 6.
    78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
    Even if Yamamoto gets hit around, almost nobody's going to complain.
    They've been dumping way too much on him since last year.
    A normal person would've already broken down.
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    Re: #78
    Two full years now since last season, never once skipping his rotation turn — the only one who's kept his spot the whole time — and they keep pushing him to pitch through it.
    Even if one bad outing comes at a critical moment, nobody's going to blame him for it.
    83AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    There are a lot of creepy ones in here lol

    Yoshinobu Yamamoto isn't carrying anything special tomorrow lol
    It's fine if he loses.
    90AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
    Re: #83
    Honestly, isn't it creepier to be giving a dead-serious reply in a thread like this?
    86AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
    Is there actually any winning pattern besides 'Ohtani explodes' or 'Yamamoto pitches great'?
    92AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    Re: #86
    There's the pattern where a dark horse like Kiké, Pages, or Muncy breaks out.
    94AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
    Not being able to hit a 160 (km/h) pitch even down the middle is kind of scary.
    Last year's Ohtani would've crushed that, no?
    98AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:30
    Re: #94
    It was a sinker.
    100AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:32
    Re: #94
    Don't know the actual numbers, but my impression was he was strong against fastballs last year.

    Background and talking points

    Shohei Ohtani’s “106 plate appearances without a home run” is a new career worst, and many posters voiced concern over the contrast with his strong form through last season. Some also framed it as “the gap between the AL and NL,” comparing the Tigers’ Tarik Skubal to the Dodgers’ rotation — though it’s worth noting this is more impression than anything backed by actual statistics, so it shouldn’t be treated as established fact. Because the Dodgers had won seven straight postseason games against the Brewers since 2018, this loss registered in the thread as “a team unused to losing hitting a rough patch.” Yoshinobu Yamamoto has held his rotation spot throughout without missing a turn to injury, and the thread reflected both high hopes for his Game 2 start and concern over the toll of his heavy workload.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[MLB] Dodgers suffer painful comeback loss, Brewers take Game 1 — Ohtani scores on a walk and gets first hit in 12 at-bats, Yamamoto to start Game 2.”

  • Hello! Project’s ’26 “Worst Song Awards”: BEYOOOOONDS’ “Shoshi Senban” Sweeps Every Category

    In the unofficial “Worst Song Awards” (’26), a topic that comes up every year among Hello! Project fans, BEYOOOOONDS’ “Shoshi Senban” reportedly swept every single category to take the top (worst) spot, according to a report on 5ch’s Hello! Project fan board. Opinions on the song itself were split in the thread — some leveled harsh criticism, saying “the chorus comes out of nowhere, it doesn’t hold together as a song,” while others defended it, saying “if you set aside weird preconceptions, it’s actually a pretty good song.” Posters also corrected the record on the composer (it’s Tazaki Asahi, not “Hoshibe”) and compared it to worst-song contenders from other groups, turning the thread into more of a debate over song structure than a simple bashing session.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:07
    Swept every single category lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:08
    Huh? I think it's actually really good
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:14
    Re: #2
    Yeah, if you don't go in with weird preconceptions it's just a solid song.
    When I heard it live at a Hello! Con I remember thinking, "damn, Hoshibe's got game"
    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:09
    Surely nothing worse than this is gonna come along anytime soon lol
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:10
    Never heard it, and I've got zero interest in hearing it, but…
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:10
    Isn't the chorus melody just bad?
    The momentum built up through the A-melo and B-melo just gets cut off.
    I think it barely fails to work as a song.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:12
    Even "Vanilla," which gets called a crap song, at least has some redeeming points.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:13
    Re: #1
    Juice=Juice is dropping off the Kohaku Uta Gassen prediction list at this point… (Kohaku is Japan's big New Year's Eve song contest)
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791750129/
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:13
    Re: #10
    Juice=Juice is dropping off the Kohaku Uta Gassen prediction list at this point…
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791750129/
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:14
    I really liked Tazaki Asahi, so this is a bummer.
    Guess I'm switching my favorite to Hasegawa Moemi.
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:16
    The composer of this isn't Hoshibe, it's Tazaki Asahi.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:17
    People who don't even hide their bento boxes aren't about to hide their exchanges lol
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:18
    The person who composed Shoshi Senban
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BIgJb5XzUGs/maxresdefault.jpg
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:18
    I'm a BEYOOOOONDS fan, but this year "Tsubaki" is the only Hello! Project song that's actually hit, right?
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:20
    So there's not just a Hello! Project Song of the Year Award, there's a Worst Song Award too, huh
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:10
    Re: #19
    A song nobody even brings up leaves zero impression, so unless you run an actual vote and tally it, there's no way to pick a Worst Song winner by "most negative votes."
    Of course, nobody's actually going to bother doing that.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:21
    A video to put on in the background while eating curry
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:21
    "Atto Odoroku Mirai ga Yattekuru" ("A Surprising Future Is Coming") still holds up — it's from back when Tsunku could still write a solid song.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:22
    Could someone fill me in on past years' Worst Song Award winners too, pretty please?
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:24
    Re: #24
    In a strong year, the worst songs just sink to 51st place or below, so after the Song of the Year Award finishes revealing every category, the worst-song rankings get introduced as a kind of spin-off. But "Shoshi Senban" never actually gets certified as a worst song, because BEYOOOOONDS fans always push hard enough to vote it up into the higher ranks.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:24
    For the first time, I get why BEYOOOOONDS fans push "Hai to Diamond" so hard.
    Sorry for doubting you all until now.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:24
    Listening now, songs like "Kobushi" are all genuinely good, huh
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:24
    There's no way you can force-push "Shoshi Senban" as good, surely
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:26
    Some are saying "Doo Di Dang" is still better than this
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:26
    Re: #20
    If we're just talking about the songs themselves, it's a toss-up between the KIX cover and "Tsubaki."
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:27
    Re: #30
    Sales aside, isn't it kind of hollow to hype up a song that doesn't even have the streaming numbers to back it up?
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:27
    Re: #1
    It's not a bad song, it just doesn't suit BEYOOOOONDS at all.
    If they'd had ANGERME sing it instead, it could've just quietly disappeared without anyone saying anything good or bad about it.
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:27
    Looks like this year's #1 worst song is locked in
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:28
    BEYOOOOONDS, seriously?… They finally dropped a total dud at this point… what an unexpected result
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:30
    Morning Musume, ANGERME, Tsubaki Factory, and OCHA NORMA: "Phew, we dodged that one lol" (a shorthand nickname stringing together the other groups' names, since the "cha" stands for OCHA NORMA)
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:30
    @
    I don't necessarily want it to blow up more than "Hai to Diamond." The musical impact was definitely stronger with "Hai to."
    I can't lie, so I'll admit I'm not quite at "I LOVE Shoshi Senban sooo much!" yet — honestly part of me is hoping "Shouri no Sentaku" does better instead, sorry.

    @
    I do like "Shoshi Senban" itself, but now that "Hai to" has caught fire, I wonder if this isn't really what's being asked for right now. I'd have been happy if the other new song had been funk or disco, but it doesn't look like either.
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:31
    Re: #37
    It hasn't actually caught fire, though
    51AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:03
    Re: #37
    I can just picture the second person hanging their head going "ah, that one was just goofy nonsense"
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:45
    Guess the next release is another year and a half away too, huh
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 12:48
    Re: #47
    In terms of number of songs, they've been getting favorable treatment ever since around "Hai to," so it might be time for a waiting-turn phase now.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:12
    As far as worst songs go:
    "forgettable" < "actively unpleasant to listen to"
    that's the scale
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:15
    Re: #55
    Juice=Juice is my top pick, but I listen to the other groups pretty evenhandedly too — and the most unpleasant one for me is Rosy Chronicle's "Barairo Anthology."
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
    Re: #59
    The "Unmei Cha Cha Chan" one is worse, honestly
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
    Re: #60
    It's got that Melon Kinenbi vibe, I think it's good (Melon Kinenbi being a beloved now-defunct Hello! Project group)

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “Worst Song Award” is an unofficial popularity poll that comes up every year as a spin-off of the Hello! Project Song of the Year Award, and as pointed out within the thread (posts 19 and 52), there’s a built-in structural quirk: songs that leave no impression don’t gather votes in the first place, so they tend to slip through the net of “worst” candidates. Because of this, it’s likely that a BEYOOOOONDS song stood out and shot to the top (i.e., the bottom) this time precisely because the group has such an active, vote-happy fanbase. Some posts corrected the record on the composer — it’s Tazaki Asahi, not “Hoshibe” — showing that participants cared about getting the facts right. Opinions on the song itself ranged from concrete criticisms like “the chorus structure comes out of nowhere” to member-suitability arguments like “it just doesn’t fit the group’s style,” and it’s worth noting that the discussion went beyond simple like-or-dislike into genuine debate over the song’s arrangement.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Hello! Project Worst Song Award ’26 is BEYOOOOONDS’ “Shoshi Senban” lmaooooo, a landslide #1 lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.”