Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Expert Claims: ‘If College-Grad Office Workers Flood into Manual Labor, High-School-Grad Laborers Will Be Wiped Out’ — Sparks Fierce Debate

    A post on X arguing that “if white-collar university graduates shift into blue-collar work, the existing high-school-educated blue-collar workforce will be wiped out” sparked a wide-ranging debate on 5ch about the future of the labor market. The discussion spread in many directions — the hardships faced by the “employment ice age” generation, comparisons with the current situation in China, fears of being replaced by AI, and the brutal reality of physical labor in the summer heat — with opinions sharply divided.

    Kumaojisan

    @tantoelite

    Sorry to say it, but if white-collar university grads shift into blue-collar work, I think the existing high-school-educated blue-collar workers will end up getting wiped out 😅

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:30
    They'll have no stamina and burn out fast, won't they
    3AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:33
    If that were really going to happen, it already would have during the employment ice age generation — so no, that's not it
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:34
    Fine for guys in their teens or twenties, but no way for women or older men
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:35
    Kind of hard to have a serious discussion when the whole premise is unrealistic
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:37
    Seeing how many people quit their government jobs the second disaster relief work got tough tells you everything — people just want an easy ride, so they're not about to take up manual labor in the first place
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:37
    They'll get wiped out. In every country except the ones with low university enrollment rates like Japan's, this has already happened naturally
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:38
    Didn't high school grads from the ice age generation actually struggle a lot? Sounds rough — apparently in China right now, university grads are flooding into manual labor jobs too
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:39
    Re: #8 Actually, during the ice age generation, high school grads had it easier — more job options
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:41
    It's grunt work where efficiency and productivity don't matter at all, just sheer persistence — which is exactly why nobody wants to do it
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:43
    If the logic is that AI is going to take over mental labor, then long before high school grads get pushed out by college grads, there'll be even less point in going to college at all
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:44
    Being Japanese, people will probably use this as an excuse to quit their salaryman jobs — and we'll just end up with a flood of new restaurants
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:45
    Wouldn't they just end up putting only women and old men on basic income over this?
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:45
    This would mean humans no longer need to trial-and-error anything
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:51
    I'm on welfare (namapo), but listening to INMU KING has me stunned at how far AI has come
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:59
    Do they really think their bodies can handle it? Naive. Companies want them gone anyway, so there's no mercy
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:00
    Even if you suggest efficiency improvements on-site — like wrapping up each day's work right around quitting time — you'll just get bullied for it
    22AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:07
    With gender equality, women moved into blue-collar workplaces too, but since they lack the strength they get assigned light duty, while men end up stuck doing all the heavy labor for the same pay — it's getting unbearable
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:09
    If white-collar workers were really doing all this trial-and-error, Japan wouldn't have fallen this far
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:10
    No way white-collar university grads could handle blue-collar work lol
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:12
    Who knows. Some people are suited for it, some aren't. If they're more capable they'll get hired, but will that actually fix the chronic labor shortage? Even if they get pushed out, there's plenty of other work out there. If you can take out a huge loan to attend a bottom-tier ('F-rank') university and still end up doing manual labor anyway, you might as well just do that from the start
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:15
    That's because Japan's university enrollment rate is extremely low compared to other developed countries, and even Russia and Ukraine — about 30 points lower, at roughly 50%. So there's always been a natural division where college grads go white-collar and high school grads go blue-collar. But if that division breaks down, high school grads will get wiped out — even blue-collar jobs will start requiring a degree
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:19
    Re: #27 Isn't that last line kind of off? Spending four years in college just to do manual labor is a total waste
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:21
    Re: #30 Plenty of science/engineering grads become electricians and the like
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:23
    Re: #30 Even if it's a waste, it'll happen naturally once the university enrollment rate rises to match other countries, or once white-collar jobs shrink. The world isn't full of loners and otaku — there aren't that many college grads who'd rather become a NEET than do blue-collar work
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:18
    Blue-collar work is definitely going to demand a lot more efficiency and productivity than it does now — and honestly, it's already being demanded these days
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:19
    Nobody's asking the middle-aged guy who just transferred in to think — just shut up and work
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:20
    There are occasionally white-collar grads who flee into blue-collar work, but without exception they turn out useless there
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:21
    Obviously, even in physical labor, it's the smart, law-abiding, serious workers who are valued most — and that trend is only going to get stronger going forward
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:22
    With subcontractor after subcontractor in the chain, you end up with incidents like today's train accident
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:31
    It's nearly 40°C out there in summer these days — I can't imagine white-collar workers used to air conditioning handling site work
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:34
    By the time AI can do human jobs, the world will already be a mess from AI being abused or running out of control
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:37
    That American plumber who made it big earning 40 million yen a year was originally an IT engineer, you know. But in Japan, that kind of blue-collar worker will never end up ranking above a trading-company salaryman
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:39
    To begin with, blue-collar work never really required even a high school education. Long ago, things shifted so that even the not-so-bright kids headed for bottom-tier jobs — where nothing taught in high school actually mattered — mostly went through high school anyway, just to keep up appearances. Times have changed again, and now it's just that those same kids, destined for bottom-tier jobs regardless, mostly go on to university too
    41AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:43
    If that actually happened, the people pushed out would turn to crime, like old-time cowboys. Is it really okay for Japan to become that dangerous a country?
    51AnonymousAug 21, 2026 02:01
    Re: #41 Some young people are already running wild doing 'yami baito' (shady black-market gig jobs often tied to scams and robberies)
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 01:45
    They'd probably just get crushed by the blue-collar workers instead. It's not just the physical labor — you need the mental toughness to withstand being yelled at, bullied, and worn down psychologically
    76AnonymousAug 21, 2026 02:40
    The ones who get weeded out are the ones who can't stick with it, college grad or not. In blue-collar work, tons of people quit after just one day
    79AnonymousAug 21, 2026 02:54
    Re: #76 Yeah, there are plenty who casually quit after three days too

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s university enrollment rate sits around 55-58%, roughly 20-30 points below the US, UK, or South Korea, which is why the post’s framing lands as a real structural question rather than an abstract one: for decades, Japan has sorted young people into a fairly rigid track, with the roughly half who don’t go to university feeding blue-collar trades, construction, and logistics. The “employment ice age” generation referenced in the thread (shushoku hyogaki sedai) are those who graduated into the job market during the prolonged post-bubble recession of the mid-1990s to mid-2000s, when even university graduates often couldn’t land regular full-time positions and many ended up in irregular or manual labor — a scar on Japanese labor policy still discussed today.

    The thread doesn’t actually agree on whether the scenario is happening or could happen at all. One camp treats it as inevitable, arguing that as Japan’s enrollment rate converges with other developed countries, credential inflation will naturally push graduates downward into blue-collar work the way it already has elsewhere. The opposing camp calls the premise itself unrealistic, pointing to the ice age generation as a precedent where high-school grads reportedly fared comparably or even better, and arguing that physical stamina and workplace culture will filter graduates out anyway.

    What’s missing from the debate is the demand side: Japan’s construction, logistics, and caregiving sectors are running on chronic labor shortages driven by a shrinking working-age population, not an oversupply crisis. That undercuts the “wiped out” framing, since displacement logic assumes a fixed number of jobs rather than sectors currently desperate for any workers, credentialed or not.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Expert Claims: ‘If College-Grad Office Workers Flood into Manual Labor, High-School-Grad Laborers Will Be Wiped Out’ — Sparks Fierce Debate.”

  • Is Korean Food Actually Good? 5ch Split Over ‘No Comparison to Japanese Cuisine’

    A thread on 5ch’s “Hello Project” board sparked debate over the taste of Korean food. Harsh takes included “no comparison to Japanese cuisine” and “it only tastes good because it’s spicy,” while defenders argued “as fast food you can eat in casual clothes, it’s unbeatable” and “samgyetang is delicious” — opinions split right down the middle. Some even brought up the gap in Michelin star counts as a counterargument, and the debate never really settled.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:36
    Better than Japanese food
    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:40
    I eat it at restaurants sometimes
    it's not bad, but it's not great either
    No comparison to Japanese food
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:40
    It's for dumb tastebuds who think anything tastes good as long as it's spicy
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:42
    It's just cuisine where they dump gochujang and sugar into everything
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:52
    Re: #6
    Also they put sesame oil in everything
    Once you use sesame oil, everything ends up tasting the same and you lose the aroma of the ingredients
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:42
    I'm bad with spicy food and my throat's weak, so I avoid it
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:45
    The good thing about Korean food is you can eat it quickly in casual clothes
    and it still keeps a baseline level of tastiness
    With other countries' cuisines, getting into a good restaurant and dealing with all the etiquette is a hassle
    I think Korean food is unbeatable as fast food
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:46
    Re: #9
    Japanese, Thai, and Chinese food don't have a dress code either lol
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:48
    Have you actually been to Korea?
    I've gone for work many times, and everything is subtly under-salted, and if you're not careful it's sweet too — after several days it starts driving you crazy
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:55
    Things like seolleongtang, samgyetang, and doenjang jjigae aren't spicy
    and for pickled stuff there's namul too
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:59
    Re: #18
    That's just because it has no flavor on its own — you season it yourself
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:56
    I feel like samgyetang deserves to be way more popular
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:59
    Re: #19
    Because mizutaki (Japanese chicken hot pot) already does it better
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:57
    Grilling shimachou (beef large intestine) on an iron plate and dipping it in sesame oil was great
    though it's fat-on-fat, so I bet the old-guard "wolf" fans here can't handle it lol (veteran-fan slang on this Hello Project board)
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:00
    Re: #20
    Because we've got kotecchan (a packaged seasoned tripe brand)
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:59
    Chamisul Lemon (soju) is actually really tasty
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:00
    Isn't Chamisul just alcohol with flavoring dumped in?
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:09
    Re: #25
    Well, if you'd call sake "just alcohol," then sure, maybe
    27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:04
    Since when does adding cheese make something Korean food?
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:05
    Re: #27
    Because a trade agreement forces them to buy tons of cheese from the US
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:05
    Re: #27
    Most Korean dishes have it in there
    Korean food is basically burying the actual ingredients under cheese, gochujang, sugar, and chili
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:08
    Hadn't had it in a while and the bottle design changed

    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:09
    This is something only people who've traveled to Korea would know, but Korean rice isn't very tasty
    It's not very sticky and low on sweetness and umami — even convenience store rice balls taste so bland you can't get through them without a side dish
    I think cuisines where the rice is bland tend to pair well with spice and oil
    That goes for India, Southeast Asia, China, and Korea, right?
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:09
    I don't even know what "Korean food" is supposed to mean in the first place
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:11
    Re: #33
    Right
    Proper Korean food chains only ever stay small-scale
    Bottom line, it's just not popular
    Because it's not that good
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:10
    Apparently eating dog is getting banned
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:15
    Japanese yakiniku is really a Zainichi Korean dish
    Korean-style yakiniku doesn't grill on a wire net, so it's a bit different
    41AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:18
    Compared to Japan, where the number of Michelin-starred restaurants is worlds apart from Korea's, Korean food is garbage
    53AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:37
    Shin Ramyun doesn't have much umami on its own, so tossing it in at the end of hot pot lets it soak up the broth and turns out great
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:38
    Even the people who trash-talk Korean food

    still order Korean dishes off the menu at yakiniku places
    61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:07
    Honestly there's nothing I'd pay top dollar to eat

    Background and Key Points

    I need no background research—this is a self-contained writing task about a 5ch thread discussion.

    Samgyetang, seolleongtang, and shimachou are dishes most Western readers won’t have context for, and the Michelin comparison raised in the thread is a real but slippery statistic worth unpacking, so the closing commentary should ground those.

    Korean cuisine occupies a specific, contested spot in Japan’s food culture. Since the 2000s “Korean Wave” (Hallyu) boom, Korean food has become widely available in Japan through casual chains, convenience-store tie-ins, and yakiniku restaurants — many of which, as one poster noted, were historically opened by Zainichi Koreans (ethnic Koreans born and raised in Japan) and shaped how Japanese yakiniku itself developed. That history is why the line between “Japanese yakiniku” and “Korean food” gets blurry fast, and why posters could simultaneously mock Korean cuisine and admit to ordering Korean-style side dishes at a yakiniku table.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t spicy-vs-not — both sides conceded plenty of Korean dishes (seolleongtang, samgyetang, doenjang jjigae) aren’t spicy at all. The split was over whether “under-seasoned base, self-seasoned at the table” counts as a virtue (customizable, quick, casual) or a flaw (bland, over-reliant on gochujang/sesame oil/cheese to compensate). The Michelin comparison, brought up as a trump card, is a common but weak argument: star counts reflect where inspectors operate and how a country’s fine-dining scene is organized, not the depth or quality of its everyday food culture — Tokyo simply has more Michelin-covered restaurants than Seoul, partly because the guide expanded there earlier and more aggressively.

    What the thread never mentions is soju’s actual profile: Chamisul and similar bottles are diluted, often flavored, industrially distilled spirits closer to a flavored vodka than to traditional Korean nuruk-fermented liquor, so the “it’s just booze with flavoring” jab is more accurate than the poster raising it seemed to realize.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello Project) thread「Korean food is pretty tasty, right?」.

  • J.League Attendance Surges by 5.73 Million — 5ch Reacts: ‘Tax Money Beggars?’

    The J.League and the Japan Football Association (JFA) announced that their largest-ever joint promotional campaign, timed to coincide with the 2026 World Cup, expanded soccer’s overall spectator base by roughly 5.73 million people. Reactions on 5ch were largely positive, but the thread also saw criticism of municipal subsidies (‘tax money beggars?’), along with attendance comparisons between Tokyo Verdy and the Yakult Swallows’ same-day, same-time games — sparking a back-and-forth with baseball fans.

    The Japan Professional Football League (J.League) and the Japan Football Association (JFA), a public interest incorporated foundation, carried out their largest-ever joint promotional campaign centered on the FIFA World Cup 2026 period, under the concept ‘Bringing Local Pride to the World.’

    The campaign aimed to re-communicate the connection between the J.League and the national team and to generate excitement across Japanese soccer as a whole, rolling out a range of initiatives including transit advertising, TV and web commercials, and promotions at J.League match venues. National team matches and the FIFA World Cup draw broad, high interest not just from soccer fans but from society at large, and organizers felt there was still room to grow the overlap between national team fans and J.League fans in order to expand soccer’s overall fan base — hence the campaign.

    The press release stated: “Many of the players currently active on the national team grew up with clubs in their hometowns, gained experience in the J.League, and then took flight onto the world stage. Players nurtured by community-rooted clubs go on to challenge the world as members of the national team. To help more people understand this connection between the J.League and the national team, the J.League and JFA developed a joint campaign under the concept ‘Bringing Local Pride to the World,’ timed to the World Cup — a moment when interest in the national team surges — to present the J.League and the national team as one unified story.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:08
    Ugh, here come the 'Easy Smartphone' geezer baseball pigs again (a jab at elderly baseball fans still using dumbed-down 'easy' smartphones for seniors)
    7AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:10
    Looks like every bit of promotion the J.League does directly translates into more fans.
    They're rolling in it.
    8AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:11
    Four years from now, after getting knocked out in the round of 64:

    'Well done! Thanks for the memories! You gave us courage!'

    Way too much leaning into the entertainment angle.
    74AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:46
    Re: #8
    Japanese soccer should lean harder into the 'oshi-katsu' route (fan-idol-style devotion to individual players/clubs).
    There's not much more room to grow beyond that.
    9AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:13
    Off topic, but the scale of that survey is insane.
    10AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:13
    This thread's just gonna turn into the baseball pigs oinking anyway, right?
    11AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:16
    Yakiton Sentai Taxmoneyger!

    Yakiton Sentai Freeticketger!

    Yakiton Sentai TwiceAMonthger!
    (a Power-Rangers-style parody mocking baseball fans — 'yakiton' is derogatory slang for them — over tax subsidies, freebie tickets, and sparse home schedules)
    13AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:18
    Mmm, tasty tax money.
    16AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:20
    Re: #13
    Every municipality's investment in the J.League gets decided by majority vote among elected officials, though.
    14AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:19
    J.League's got serious momentum lately.
    With new stadiums popping up all over the country going forward, total attendance is only going to keep climbing.
    19AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:26
    Before you know it, there are 60 clubs nationwide.
    The business is already more than double the scale of baseball, and as spectator infrastructure keeps improving, that gap's only going to widen.
    23AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:30
    Re: #19
    > Before you know it, there are 60 clubs nationwide

    That's just mass-producing broke clubs.
    A burden on their communities.
    29AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:44
    Then how about building sports facilities without relying on tax money?
    31AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:52
    Re: #29
    Politics is a numbers game.
    Potential attendance demand grew from 10 million to 15 million people.
    I'll go ahead and predict this actually builds momentum for public stadium development.
    33AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:55
    And yet they're 'tax money beggars'???
    When are they finally gonna stand on their own?
    71AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:41
    Re: #33
    What 'standing on your own' are you talking about, when you've had your parent company covering your losses for 80 years?
    34AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:57
    And on top of that, baseball can't even copy this — there's no 'world' for it lol

    Plus it's not even officially recognized by the US lol
    It's just treated as some minor-league knockoff ripping off MLB lol
    36AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:59
    Re: #34
    That's something 'tax money beggars' could never pull off.
    43AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:17
    That '5.7 million increase' — isn't that basically just people who never watch normally but tuned in only for the World Cup games?
    Pretty much exactly that, right?
    I mean, that's literally me too.
    48AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:26
    Re: #43
    All that effort, and none of it's real — just to secure tax funding lol
    51AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:33
    Why is baseball's popularity crashing so hard?
    52AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:35
    Re: #51
    That's gotta be because old media's influence is declining.
    57AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:39
    J.League, where only the advertising keeps getting more over-the-top.
    62AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:48
    Re: #57
    Meanwhile the ads for 'buta-sugoroku' (a mocking nickname for pro baseball, literally 'pig board-game') are all adult diapers and denture cleaner.
    64AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:51
    Under the same conditions, the J.League can already draw bigger crowds than pro baseball.

    *Last week, same location (Jingu Gaien), same kickoff/first-pitch time:

    J.League: Tokyo Verdy vs. Kashiwa Reysol — 44,690
    Pro Baseball: Yakult vs. DeNA — 28,969

    Note that the J.League figure is actual attendance, while the baseball figure is tickets issued, so the real gap is even bigger.
    67AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #64
    Average ticket price × annual attendance is what a team actually pulls in from gate revenue.

    J.League clubs only play 19 home games a year, so against baseball's 70+ home games a year, you'd need more than triple the attendance per game just to break even with them.
    65AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:53
    J.League's been pretty aggressive with promotion lately.
    Still, I think the best move would be broadcasting matches on local TV.
    68AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:03
    Re: #65
    If you said that without knowing, that's good instincts.
    J.League has actually been increasing local broadcasts recently — apparently 60% of new fans discover the J.League through TV.
    66AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:56
    The J.League is a professional sport, after all.
    They're not counting on 'Easy Smartphone' old guys who won't watch anything unless it's free.
    Baseball and the TV industry, which relied entirely on that crowd, are in rough shape now, aren't they?
    72AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:43
    Re: #66
    Pro baseball, handing out free tickets to city hall employees with tax money — must be wonderful, huh lol
    73AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:46
    The real 'tax league' is:

    a bunch of guys who've spent 80 years being carried on the backs of parent companies, municipalities, and the media, getting tax money spent on pro-grade dedicated stadiums they might use once a year, not lifting a finger to volunteer even after disasters, smoking not just regular cigarettes but illegal 'zombie' cigarettes during games (slang for adulterated/counterfeit tobacco), and packing on more blubber than a sumo wrestler.

    That's what it means.
    75AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:46
    Re: #73
    'Tax-Suck-ball' (a pun on 'yakyu,' the Japanese word for baseball — 'zei-suu,' or tax-sucking, sounds almost the same).
    76AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:48
    The J.League is popular and profitable!
    Therefore,
    the J.League can build its own stadiums without relying on tax money!
    77AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:51
    Re: #76
    80 years of sponging off the country, and still playing to garagara (empty, sparsely-filled) stands.
    79AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:54
    Re: #76
    Tax money isn't spent purely for citizens' sake — it's an investment in the region's future.

    Tax money spent on soccer generates increased tourism revenue from visiting away fans, and dedicated stadiums become an emotional anchor for local residents, creating real potential for regional revitalization.

    'Mr. Pig-Sugoroku' (baseball), on the other hand, might not even show up once a year, so it can't even become an emotional anchor for the community. Toda, Kamagaya, and Saitama all generously hosted farm teams, only to get abandoned.

    And high-school baseball only revitalizes anything for one brief moment in August — the so-called 'whirlwind' effect.
    No wonder baseball's losing fans all across the country lolololol
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:03
    At least cover your own stadium maintenance costs, tax league.
    83AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:04
    Re: #81
    At least build your own stadium train station, buta-sugoroku (pig board-game, i.e. pro baseball).

    Background and Key Points

    The J.League was founded in 1993 explicitly as a community-based alternative to Nippon Professional Baseball’s decades-old model, in which teams are corporate subsidiaries carrying their parent company’s name (the Yomiuri Giants, the SoftBank Hawks) rather than a place name. J.League clubs, by contrast, are licensed only if they commit to local ownership ties, youth academies, and community programming, and many of their stadiums were built or upgraded with municipal backing under that “100-year vision” framework — which is the real target of the thread’s “tax money beggars” jab, not some unique scandal. Japan has qualified for every World Cup since 1998, and the 2026 tournament is the first 48-team edition, held across the US, Mexico, and Canada, which is part of why organizers expected crossover interest between national-team fans and domestic-league fans to convert.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t soccer-vs-baseball tribalism for its own sake, but whether the 5.73 million figure represents durable growth or a one-off World Cup bump — post #43’s point that it may just be lapsed viewers tuning in for the tournament went largely unanswered.

    What the thread glosses over is that NPB clubs also play in publicly funded venues in many cities (farm-team stadiums, prefectural stadiums), so the “tax league” framing overstates a clean funding divide between the two sports. It also never clarifies that the 5.73M is a projected/surveyed audience-reach figure, not verified ticketed attendance, which matters for how much weight the number should carry.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread ‘[Soccer] J.League and JFA Run Largest-Ever Joint Promotion, Boosting Overall Soccer Spectator Base by Approx. 5.73 Million’.

  • Hair Change Boosts Her Buzz, but Blog Silence Worries Fans — 5ch: ‘Hirayama’s Still Got It’

    A thread on 5ch asking whether people like or dislike Hello! Project member Hirayama sparked a lively debate. Some complained that likes on her TikTok have visibly dropped and that her blog and Instagram updates have stalled, while others said they only started paying attention to her once she began growing her hair out — leaving opinions sharply divided. The repeated posting of an official photo from four years ago also led to a minor spat between those who kept sharing it and those who found it annoying.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:46
    Hirayama's still got it
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:48
    In Power Pro Kun Pocket (a baseball RPG game series), the 'nose bandage' guy has always had mediocre stats
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:48
    She never updates her blog or Instagram, so I'm not a fan
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:49
    [Bad News] Hirayama's TikTok likes have taken a noticeable nosedive
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:50
    Re: #10
    Heard her solo numbers (individual event/photo sales) have dropped too
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:49
    If this were the Avengers, she'd be Captain America
    Because she's got the strongest shield
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:50
    Because Hirayama pulled off that memorable bar event for her 20th — both sessions, after-party included
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:52
    Re: #14
    I saw a post saying there weren't many female fans, but were there ever that many to begin with?
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:53
    She's a lifesaver because she keeps Angerme from looking too uniform
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:54
    If she were just 15cm taller, she'd have been a top-tier beauty
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:59
    Re: #1
    If you're out of material, you don't have to force a thread
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:59
    Living proof that good looks and good personality go hand in hand
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:00
    What do you mean 'Hirayama'? ('Hira' means 'flat' — but this is basically the Himalayas at this point
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:00
    Why doesn't she write her blog?
    She's skipping the bus tour without even an apology
    That's a lack of professionalism
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:00
    With her hair short, she just looks like a short-haired Sakura Oda
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:02
    There's a Masonic symbol in the top right
    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20220330/21/angerme-new/d1/20/j/o1080108015095417986.jpg
    37AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    Re: #33
    Sure!
    But it's never gonna happen
    She's on vacation right now
    38AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    There's a fragility within her strength
    That's Hirayama
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:03
    She could still update her blog from vacation though…
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:08
    Re: #39
    She can't exactly post 'the sun on the beach feels great!' while she's supposed to be laying low
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:06
    I like her because she's been growing her hair out lately
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:09
    Re: #44
    Her recent hairstyle's great, right? I wasn't interested before, but once she started growing her hair out I started paying attention to her
    58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:21
    Re: #46
    Exactly
    She's surprisingly girly too
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:09
    I love Redrock too
    49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:09
    Hirayama Aya got married to someone, didn't she
    Probably some guy nobody's heard of
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:10
    Re: #49
    It was Mokomichi (actor Mokomichi Hasegawa)
    56AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:18
    Back when her hair was long and she was young
    59AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:22
    Re: #56
    You keep dragging out that same photo from over 4 years ago — it's exhausting how persistent you are
    61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:28
    Re: #59
    Why would posting an official photo from 4 years ago be a problem for you?
    68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 22:35
    Re: #61
    That's kind of mean

    Background and Key Points

    Hirayama Ayaka is a member of Angerme, one of the idol groups under Hello! Project, the multi-generational idol umbrella run by Up-Front Works (also home to Morning Musume and several sister units). In Japan’s idol industry, engagement metrics carry outsized weight: blog and Instagram updates on official Hello! Project platforms function as the primary channel between idols and fans between live performances, and solo goods such as individual event tickets and photo sets (“chekis”/solo photo sales) are treated as informal popularity rankings within a group. TikTok, a newer addition to idol promotion, is likewise watched closely by fans as a proxy for an idol’s momentum. Her surname is also the basis of a long-running pun among fans, since “hira” can mean “flat,” making jokes about her height and appearance a recurring fixture of threads about her.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t about liking or disliking her outright, but about which signal to trust: posters citing falling TikTok likes and stalled blog activity read those numbers as decline, while others said a recent change to longer hair had newly won them over — meaning the same period that looked like a downturn by one metric looked like a comeback by another.

    Readers should be careful not to conflate two separate people sharing the surname Hirayama: the idol discussed here is distinct from Hirayama Aya, referenced in the thread as having married actor Mokomichi Hasegawa — a mix-up the posters themselves briefly stumbled into. It’s also worth noting that Japanese idols are frequently expected to go quiet on personal social media during scheduled downtime, so a blog silence during a break isn’t necessarily evidence of disengagement, contrary to how some posters read it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread ‘Do you guys actually like Hirayama?’.

  • 10kg of Rice Finally Drops to ¥4,000

    A thread on 5ch reported that the price of 10kg of rice has finally dropped to ¥4,000. While some residents who remember paying under ¥2,000 for 5kg grumbled “still too expensive” and “I won’t buy until it’s under ¥2,000,” many others pointed out that during the price spike they switched their staple food to bread or noodles, suggesting the shift away from rice may have become permanent.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:53
    Time to eat rice like crazy!
    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:54
    Buying it for a third of last year's price? What a deal.
    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:55
    Still too expensive
    Not buying until it's under ¥2,000
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:56
    Re: #4
    Guess you'll be eating bread or noodles for the rest of your life
    52AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:58
    Re: #4
    Just eat some triple-aged rice then (kokokomai — rice held in storage for 3+ years)
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:59
    Used to buy in bulk for a discount, paying ¥2,500-3,000, but I barely eat rice these days so a 10kg bag just ends up getting bugs in it.
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:03
    Would be nice if this became a lesson that jacking prices up sneakily gets you punished
    Everything's so expensive lately
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:08
    Wasn't it around ¥1,000 for 5kg?
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:13
    Re: #11
    Pretty sure it was around ¥1,500
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:08
    Hope the "consumption tax" price hikes go the same way
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:09
    What's spilled can't be put back in the tray (i.e. there's no undoing it)
    Even with price cuts, people who've drifted away from rice won't come back so easily
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:11
    The staple's shifted to noodles and bread, right?
    Rice is probably under 30% of meals now?
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:12
    There can't be many Japanese people who are truly satisfied with just noodles and bread
    18AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:13
    I've been eating pasta, soba, and udon more often
    and looking up recipes has expanded my repertoire too
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:13
    I'll buy it once no-rinse rice (musenmai, pre-washed rice) hits ¥1,500
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:14
    I live alone so I always buy 5kg bags
    but even at the high end it needs to drop to around ¥2,200
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:15
    Curious to see if convenience store rice balls actually get cheaper too
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:16
    Do people living alone just not buy 10kg bags?
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:17
    Seaweed (nori) is crazy expensive right now too
    Wonder why
    27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:18
    The Meteorological Agency started saying a big earthquake was likely soon, panic-buying of rice kicked off, and prices shot up insanely
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:18
    The reason for the price spike is that the harvest was small
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:19
    Back in elementary school I used to get sent to the local supermarket to buy rice, and 10kg was ¥3,600 back then
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:33
    Hurry up and drop the price on microwave rice packs too
    36AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:35
    Bought 10kg of blended rice for ¥3,000 at the end of last month
    38AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:39
    Cheaper brand-name rice used to run around ¥2,000 for 5kg
    and blended rice was under ¥1,500
    Either way, cooking rice at home has become such a hassle that I've decided rice is only for eating out now lol
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:40
    Retailers only need to discount it a little and there are idiots who'll still buy it, so it hasn't dropped that much
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:42
    Well, I'm fine as long as it gets back to the price level from a few years ago
    I'll still eat it when dining out with people
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:50
    Re: #40
    It's done as a staple food
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:57
    Now that rice prices are down, the restaurant industry's due for a wave of price cuts too, right?
    If they don't lower prices after rice got cheaper, people are going to be furious
    63AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:13
    Re: #51
    If the consumption tax on groceries drops to 1%, fewer customers are expected to eat out, so restaurants probably won't cut prices
    69AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:24
    With demand for Japanese food rising abroad, aren't they going to export it?
    73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 11:29
    Re: #69
    Dull palates abroad probably can't appreciate how good Japanese rice tastes
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:03
    The government should just buy back the stockpiled rice it released
    82AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:08
    Re: #80
    No need for that
    It's just the fault of the idiots who bought up almost all the stockpile rice at auction and hoarded it
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 12:10
    Re: #80
    I'll buy it to secure stockpile rice whether they tell me to or not

    Background and Key Points

    Rice sold under Japan’s staple-food distribution system has historically been priced far below what this thread describes: 5kg bags ran roughly ¥1,000-1,500 as recently as a few years ago, and posters citing ¥2,000-2,500 as “normal” already reflect prices inflated by the 2024-2025 shortage. That spike traces to a poor 2023 harvest combined with panic-buying after the Meteorological Agency’s “megaquake advisory” warnings, which emptied shelves and let both retailers and hoarders push prices well above cost. The government’s release of emergency stockpile rice (bichiku-mai) was meant to correct this, and ¥4,000 for 10kg marks a real, if partial, retreat toward pre-crisis norms.

    What the thread actually divides on isn’t whether prices should fall further, but whether the drop matters anymore. One camp treats ¥2,000-for-5kg as the return of a birthright and refuses to buy until then; the other argues, more pointedly, that eighteen months of paying double for rice pushed households onto bread, pasta, and udon permanently, and that habit doesn’t reverse just because the sticker price does. That’s a real behavioral-economics claim about stickiness, not nostalgia, and it’s the more substantive position in the thread.

    What outside readers will likely miss is the domestic-politics undercurrent: posts referencing “consumption tax” cuts on groceries and hoarders who “bought up the stockpile at auction” allude to ongoing debate over Japan’s agricultural policy and the auction system that let traders corner stockpile releases, not just retail pricing. Also easy to miss: kokomai (“triple-aged rice”) is a real, cheaper stored-rice category, not a joke — a sign some posters have already adapted rather than waiting out the price.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Project) thread “10kg of Rice Finally Drops to ¥4,000”.

  • Kojima Hana’s Variety Show Talent Praised — 5ch: ‘She Can Ad-Lib as an MC’

    Hello! Project newcomer Kojima Hana’s impressive variety-show talent became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. While fans praised her ad-libbing as an MC and the fun factor of her social media and blog posts, many also pointed out that Hello! Project as a whole — despite having produced legendary variety talents like Yaguchi Mari and Fujimoto Miki — seems to have drifted away from the variety-show track in recent years.

    Commenters cited a handful of exceptions like Makino Maria and Ikuta Erina, while lamenting the agency’s training policies and the lack of TV exposure.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:25
    Can ad-lib as an MC
    Her social media and blog posts are entertaining
    Apparently she's good at ogiri (comedic wordplay games) too
    5AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:28
    Variety skills are Stardust Promotion's whole weapon, you know.
    Hello! Project used to be strong in variety too, but these days it's just hopeless.
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:30
    Thing about Hello! Project — and you Hello-otaku too —
    you're always debating singing ability and dance skills, on-stage stuff.
    But nobody ever thinks about a strategy for actually making it in showbiz through comedy or acting/variety work, right?
    8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:30
    Re: #6
    Take that complaint up with the agency, then?
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:32
    Re: #6
    That's a newbie/bandwagon fan talking.
    9AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:31
    There's Yaguchi Mari-senpai, Fujimoto Miki-senpai — Hello! Project actually has great senpai to look up to,
    so why doesn't the current lineup learn anything from them about talk skills or comedy?
    She even did radio with the master himself, Akashiya Sanma, so why do today's Hello! Project members have zero variety skills? It's a shame.
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:40
    Re: #9
    Probably nobody wants to get close to a senpai who had a scandal.
    68AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:38
    Re: #9
    Takase talked in a way that was blatantly Yaguchi-like plenty of times, though.
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:32
    A super-skilled kid came in as Kurumin's replacement.
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:33
    Lately Makino Maria is about the only one who's been accepted into the variety world.
    She's clearly a favorite in the Lovit!/Ravit! crowd.
    The other one to watch is Ikuta Erina, who signed with Yoshimoto Kogyo (a major comedy talent agency) — curious how that turns out.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:34
    They don't even put them on TV in the first place.
    86AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:28
    Re: #14
    Even if they were on TV, Hello-otaku wouldn't watch it anyway.
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:35
    She's cute though
    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQPTZWYb0AAmHiE.jpg:orig#.jpg
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:36
    Hey, hold on — Hello-otaku, let me say this.
    For an idol,
    singing and dancing matter, sure, but comedy/variety, drama acting, and swimsuit gravure matter even more, don't they?
    27AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:41
    Re: #21
    Take it up with the agency.
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:53
    Re: #21
    She came over from Stardust to Up-Front Group after all, so earning through singing and dancing performances is the right call.
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:38
    I hope this becomes the spark that gets more funny Hello! Project members to wake up to the comedy path.
    25AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:40
    Re: #23
    There's always been a certain number of 'variety members.'
    They just don't get much media exposure.
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:50
    I wonder if Yonemura's variety push flopped.
    She got invited onto a Cream Stew quiz segment, then a manzai prank segment that wasn't even the one originally planned, but after that it just stopped.
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:54
    Re: #38
    The incompetent agency just doesn't push hard enough after that first appearance.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:59
    I've been watching Otsubo since her trainee days, and yeah, she still seems like a no-go?
    Feels like she just doesn't have that idol sense.
    Well, 2 out of 3 being hits is plenty good, I guess.
    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:03
    Re: #47
    Iffy whether she'll blossom once she's grown up.
    Compared to Kojima and Sugiyama, she just doesn't have enough of a standout weapon.
    https://youtu.be/WaWqLdwyt0M?si=WxBIaaxwsC4SMRE1
    52AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:05
    Re: #49
    Yuna-bo actually looks more mature in this clip.
    54AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:06
    I don't usually watch Beyooooonds much, but catching them at a festival alongside my favorite group, Kojima and Sugiyama caught my eye — Otsubo honestly didn't leave much of an impression.
    56AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:08
    Re: #54
    In Morning Musume too, Yasuda and Sugihara stood out.
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:24
    It's just not fair that Beyooooonds gets both Hana-chan and Yuina-chan!
    Trade us Yasuda and Suzuki for them.
    65AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:25
    Re: #64
    That trash agency is always great at scattering talented members around, isn't it.
    81AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:15
    You'll definitely find your oshi here.
    Young or old, male or female —
    with Hana, Mano, and Yuna you'll be totally fine (a pun: 大丈V, playing on 'daijoubu')!
    82AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:17


    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:30
    Somehow her hairstyle and fashion were more stylish before she joined Hello! Project.
    Are they deliberately toning her down to fit the Hello! Project look?
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:38
    Re: #88
    Yeah, exactly.
    I remember Nishida saying something like 'the newcomers dutifully follow the rules,' so they're probably restricted on things like hairstyle and colored contacts.
    89AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:30
    Got the shot… ♡ Murata Yui
    I got to take a photo with Kojima Hana-san!
    Man, I really like her
    I ended up muttering "you're so cool"
    right in front of her without meaning to —
    sorry if that made things awkward for her 🙇🏻‍🙇🏻‍♀
    97AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:54
    She was probably like this back in her Amefura days too (an earlier group/era of hers).
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HBC56aJaEAAA58k.jpg:orig

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project (often shortened to “H!P”) is the idol collective founded in 1998 under producer Tsunku and now managed by Up-Front Group, home to Morning Musume, Angerme, and junior units like BEYOOOOONDS, where Kojima Hana and the other members discussed in the thread are currently active. Unlike agencies such as Stardust Promotion — which Kojima came from, and which is built around cultivating actors and general tarento — or Yoshimoto Kogyo, the country’s dominant comedy agency that Ikuta Erina has separately signed with, H!P’s business has historically centered on live concerts, CDs/DVDs, and stage work rather than TV crossover. That makes the two commonly cited exceptions, Yaguchi Mari and Fujimoto Miki, notable: both parlayed Morning Musume fame into long-running variety and talk-show careers, Fujimoto even co-hosting radio with Akashiya Sanma, one of Japan’s most influential comedians.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t about Kojima’s talent, which nobody contested, but about why H!P as a whole produces so few variety-ready members now: some blamed agency training and image restrictions (hairstyle, contacts, media bookings), others blamed individual members for lacking the aptitude, and one post undercut both by suggesting H!P’s own fanbase wouldn’t tune into variety appearances even if they happened.

    What the thread doesn’t address is that this may be a deliberate business tradeoff rather than a failure: since H!P’s revenue model rewards stage and merchandise loyalty over broad TV recognition, reduced variety exposure could reflect strategy, not neglect. Readers should also note “ogiri” (mentioned once, unexplained) refers to improvised comedic-answer games, a specific skill Japanese TV variety heavily tests and rewards.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Sorry, but Kojima Hana’s variety skills are insane.”

  • Ashida Mana and Takahashi Fumiya’s Café Two-Shot Sparks Buzz — 5ch: “Isn’t That Meruru’s Ex-Boyfriend? lol”

    Ashida Mana, who is starring in a TV drama series for the first time in two and a half years, was reportedly spotted chatting with co-star Takahashi Fumiya at a café in Tokyo early on the morning of August 4.

    On 5ch, comments jumped on the co-star connection with posts like “Isn’t that Meruru’s ex-boyfriend? lol,” and the discussion spread to cover her reported annual income of 680 million yen and recent takes on her acting skills.

    [Spotted] Ashida Mana, Starring in a Drama Series for the First Time in 2.5 Years, “Chatting Alone Together Even During Breaks” — Side by Side With a “Handsome Actor Three Years Her Senior”

    Ashida Mana and Takahashi Fumiya were spotted early on the morning of August 4 outside a café in Tokyo.

    They stood close together looking friendly — so what’s really going on here?

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:09
    Isn't that Meruru's ex-boyfriend? lol (Meruru = nickname of talent/model Ami Umi)
    5AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:11
    Re: #3
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UX0_6gyit10/maxresdefault.jpg
    4AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:11
    Imada Mio:
    "Oh, if Kawaguchi AND Mana-chan both disappear, that makes me the queen of commercials"
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:16
    An annual income of 680 million yen……
    no wonder guys are lining up
    14AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:17
    She got a drastic haircut recently, didn't she
    this pretty much confirms it
    17AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:22
    Re: #14
    cute
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HPMQCH4b0AAvDsR.jpg
    https://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/articles_img/900196838_1200.jpg
    16AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:20
    Ashida Mana and Honda Miyu are our last hope
    20AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:24
    Re: #16
    You can have Honda Miyu, I don't need her
    do whatever you want lol
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:23
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:02
    Re: #18
    Can't be helped, honestly
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:10
    Re: #18
    He's got that soft, pretty-boy look
    even Fuku-kun can't compete with this
    21AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:25
    All this fuss over them just chatting during a break
    23AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:26
    If you actually read the article, they're just having a friendly chat with a co-star lol
    25AnonymousAug 18, 2026 06:28
    So the kid from 'Mother' is going to become a mother herself, huh…… ("Mother" = the 2010 drama she starred in as a child)
    37AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:15
    Kubo-chan didn't even get a mention lol
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:16
    Apparently her parents aren't interested in celebrities at all
    and supposedly want her to marry a government bureaucrat or something
    49AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:34
    A lot of the child actors from that era, like Mana-chan and Fuku-kun, turned out pretty well-adjusted
    even that kid who got mercilessly trashed online back in his child-actor days grew up into a buff, handsome guy
    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:51
    Re: #49
    Who's this buff handsome guy you're talking about?
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:37
    It's not like they stayed the night together or anything, so it's fine
    55AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:38
    This was probably a reshoot her agency arranged on purpose
    65AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:55
    Mana-chan's acting has zero charm whatsoever
    66AnonymousAug 18, 2026 07:59
    Re: #65
    TV stations aren't expecting good acting from Mana-chan anyway
    they're banking on the huge sponsors standing behind her
    68AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:02
    Re: #65
    Everyone's entitled to their own taste, but there's no need to go out of your way to trash her
    82AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:43
    Re: #65
    She's been doing nothing but commercials and variety shows, so her acting's gotten worse
    67AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:00
    Maybe it's tough to find roles for her age, but lately I only ever see her on variety shows and in commercials
    69AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:02
    Re: #67
    You're just out of the loop
    75AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:24
    77AnonymousAug 18, 2026 08:32
    Re: #75
    The manager looks awfully used to holding her lol
    89AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:26
    Middle-aged guys really do all love Ashida Mana-chan, huh
    and the creepy part is they're looking at her as a woman, not as a granddaughter or daughter figure

    Background and Key Points

    Ashida Mana became one of Japan’s most recognizable faces as a child actress, breaking through in the 2010 TBS drama “Mother” and going on to front dozens of commercials; her reported ¥680 million annual income reflects that rare status of a former child star who successfully transitioned into a top-tier CM (commercial) talent. This is billed as her first regular drama role in two and a half years, which is why a simple café sighting with co-star Takahashi Fumiya became newsworthy at all — Japanese entertainment reporting treats these “two-shot” (futari, or paparazzi-style spotted-together) photos as inherently suggestive of romance, even absent any real evidence. The thread itself was posted to 5ch’s Hello! Project board, an idol-fan subforum, despite Ashida having no connection to that talent agency group — a reminder that 5ch threads often migrate across boards based on which community is currently roasting the subject.

    Posters didn’t really split over whether something romantic happened; nearly everyone treated it as innocuous. The actual divide was over her acting ability, with critics arguing her heavy commercial/variety-show workload has left her skills stagnant, and others pushing back that such criticism is unnecessary or that she simply isn’t being offered dramatic roles suited to her age.

    What’s easy to miss: nothing here confirms a relationship — it’s a single unverified sighting reported by a tabloid-style outlet, and the ¥680 million figure is an outside estimate, not disclosed income. The “Meruru” nickname reference to Ami Umi is also an in-joke unrelated to Ashida herself, likely triggered by a resemblance rumor rather than any real link between the two.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] Ashida Mana-san lolololol.”

  • “Anyone Who’s Not a STEM Major Is a Defective Product”: Theory Thread Hits a Wall of Jargon, Debate Goes in Circles

    On 5ch’s Newsoku VIP board, a regular thread-starter developing a homegrown theory of borderline personality disorder — that “non-STEM people are defective products” — invoked existentialism and cell cleavage to lay out the argument. Readers repeatedly complained that the heavy jargon made it hard to follow and called for a plain explanation, while the OP pushed back each time. The two sides never really connected, and the discussion went in circles.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:54
    Just so you know, you're welcome to push back hard here too.
    The whole point is Q&A, and there's a chance I'm wrong, after all.
    2AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:54
    I put together a summary in one post the other day, so let me paste that here first.






    26 Posted below by VIP via 5channel 2026/07/02 (Thu) 21:44:13.338 ID:Gom1reQs0
    Re: #22
    It's fine if it's in writing.

    ・From Jaspers' existentialism: "values = the inverse calculation of setbacks"
    ・From cell cleavage: "the individual = a mechanism that exists for infrastructure"
    ・The defining trait of borderline personality is "infantile omnipotence"

    Because of this "omnipotence," you can't experience "setbacks," so you can't form "values," so you never settle on "what infrastructure you're meant to support," so the need to be an "individual" never arises.

    Mentally you never become an "individual," yet physically you exist as one anyway.
    That's the "error," and "borderline personality" is the attempt to compensate for it.
    That's "the true nature of borderline personality."

    Conversely, if you translate "setback" — i.e., "the capacity to make contact with existence" — into a human category, that's "STEM."

    Hence the thread title.
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:46
    ⑫ By the way, at the cellular level, cells that fail to differentiate properly get broken down and become nutrients for other cells.
    I'll leave it up to each of you to interpret what that corresponds to at the level of the individual.
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:53
    Not gonna read a wall of text, but why exactly are non-STEM people "defective"?
    The two groups differ in kind, not quantity, and they perform different roles in society.
    Society needs all sorts of different abilities.
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:57
    Re: #34
    At least read Re: #2, lol.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:35
    Your terminology is way too optimized for your own head.
    Even if it's a bit imprecise, please use more widely understood terms.
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:38
    Re: #14
    Honestly, that's already a bad sign.
    "Existentialism should bend to my reading comprehension" — that attitude alone is a nonstarter.

    Anyway, what part don't you get?
    Point to something specific and I'll answer it.
    29AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:50
    Re: #14
    You're not going to specify what exactly you don't understand?
    Guess I'll wrap this up then?

    Well, it's a recurring thread, so there's always next time.
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:51
    I see this thread pop up now and then — what's it even for?
    35AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:53
    Re: #30
    Solving the borderline personality problem.
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:55
    Re: #35
    Everyone except you
    shares the common goal of
    recognizing the borderline personality issue as a form of diversity.

    Communities that can't preserve this kind of diversity tend to die out.
    82AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:16
    Re: #35
    What's the "borderline personality problem"?
    That term hasn't come up anywhere in this discussion.
    46AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:59
    Re: #41
    Ugh, too much hassle.
    50AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:00
    Re: #46
    Funny you ask — there's already a reply today covering exactly that.
    Here, Re: #15.
    61AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:07
    Re: #50
    First off, not understanding jargon and lacking reading comprehension are two different things.
    Also, jargon exists so experts can skip explanations among themselves.
    If you want people here to actually listen, try explaining it plainly and simply, without the jargon.
    63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:08
    Re: #61
    To someone like you I could just say "ggrks" ("Google it, dumbass" — classic 5ch brush-off)










    and leave it at that, but fine — which term don't you get?
    65AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:09
    Re: #61
    Jargon is just shorthand — if you can't explain it in your own words without changing the meaning, it's pointless.

    He's just using intimidating-sounding words to seem smart and dodge the question.
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:00
    LOL he bailed right before midnight.
    OP loses.
    52AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:02
    Re: #49
    If someone ran away, doesn't that make ME the winner, lol
    Though we're not actually competing.
    94AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:21
    Normally by this point he's already said

    "I'm wrapping this up!"

    and bolted, so

    why is the OP still hanging around?

    Feel free to "run away" already, lol

    Surprised you're the one calling this "running away," lol
    97AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:22
    Re: #94
    Huh? Wait, is Re: #49 talking about me?
    I'm around before and after midnight like normal.
    84AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:17
    Hurry up and explain it plainly and concisely.
    Don't have that ability?
    88AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:18
    Re: #84
    Figured as much.

    As his own copy-paste shows, it's just a random assemblage of logic — even he doesn't know what he's saying, and he can never explain the same thing the same way twice.
    And he can't actually explain or elaborate on it either.

    That's just the kind of guy he is.
    89AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:19
    Re: #84
    Huh? Didn't I just tell you "impossible for idiots to grasp"?
    What happened?
    85AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:18
    Re: #82
    It's literally right there at the top of the thread title, lol

    "Borderline personality" is the umbrella term for Cluster B personality disorders, of which there are four:

    ・Narcissistic personality disorder
    ・Borderline personality disorder
    ・Histrionic personality disorder
    ・Antisocial personality disorder

    The problems with these
    96AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:22
    Re: #85
    The term "borderline personality problem" never actually came up.
    I get what "borderline personality" means now.

    What I don't get is the "problem" part.
    What exactly do you mean by "solving the borderline personality problem"?
    101AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:25
    Re: #96
    Correction —
    to be precise,
    the term "borderline personality problem" never came up.
    105AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:27
    Re: #96
    That's just because you don't know about borderline personality disorder.
    It's almost never discussed as anything other than a problem.

    The "borderline personality problem" keeps existing because "the cause is unknown" and "a false cause has spread."
    I'm kicking that ladder out from under it and spreading the correct answer — "it's simply a defective product" — to tear down the whole illness-as-vested-interest racket.
    123AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:39
    Re: #105
    So: the solution to the borderline personality problem is spreading the true cause — the fact that it's "simply a defective product" — to tear down the illness-as-vested-interest racket, and that's the whole reason Re: #1 started this thread?
    Is that what you're saying?
    125AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:40
    Re: #123
    Yeah.
    That's the gist of it.
    126AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:41
    Re: #123
    If anything, the more central part is this bit:

    "The borderline personality problem keeps existing because 'the cause is unknown' and 'a false cause has spread' — I'm kicking that ladder out from under it."

    That's really the main point.
    160AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:01
    Well, it's 1am, so I'll call it here.
    It's a recurring thread, so if you've got objections or opinions, there's always next time.
    185AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:13
    Glad it looks like things got wrapped up.
    175AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:08
    It's your fault you can't understand what I'm trying to say.

    And that's been his whole attitude from start to finish.
    177AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:09
    Re: #175
    Huh? I genuinely don't understand what you're saying.
    Write in Japanese, lol
    182AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:12
    Re: #175
    What's wrong, lol
    Come on, write in Japanese, lolol
    197AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:19
    I mean at this point whoever replies last basically wins, so he's just gotta grind it out. Let the man do his thing.
    198AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:20
    Re: #197
    Seriously?
    Alright, I'm jumping in too then.
    199AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:21
    Re: #197
    Though you should probably go study Japanese, lolol

    Background and Key Points

    The rikei/bunkei (science-track vs. humanities-track) divide is a fixture of Japanese education — students are sorted into one or the other as early as high school, and the split feeds decades of good-natured and not-so-good-natured sniping online about which group is “smarter” or more useful to society. Newsoku VIP, the board this thread comes from, is one of 5channel’s oldest anonymous forums, known for recurring “theory” threads where a single poster returns again and again with the same pet argument to bait reactions; several posters here note explicitly that they’ve seen this OP’s “borderline personality” thread before, which frames the whole exchange as a known ritual rather than a fresh debate. “Borderline personality” (境界性人格) is being used loosely as an umbrella for Cluster B traits (narcissistic, borderline, histrionic, antisocial), not as a rigorous clinical DSM diagnosis.

    The thread didn’t actually split over whether STEM people are superior — almost nobody engages with that claim on the merits. It split over whether jargon is a legitimate way to argue at all: the OP insists critics name a specific term they don’t understand before he’ll explain, while critics counter that an inability to restate a claim in plain words is itself evidence the arguer doesn’t fully understand it. Neither side moves.

    What’s easy to miss is that the OP’s own “problem” framing was never established before he was pressed on it — a poster (>>96) points out the phrase “borderline personality problem” appears nowhere earlier in the thread, meaning the OP was retrofitting his conclusion. That’s less a philosophical disagreement than a rhetorical improvisation being caught in real time.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsoku VIP) thread [“I Figured Out the True Nature of Borderline Personality”] I’m the guy from the “non-STEM people are defective products” thread — let’s talk about the original “existential theory of borderline personality” [losing to a script, lol].

  • Pachinko and Horse Racing, but Not Stocks? 5ch Weighs In: ‘Poor People Should Stick to Poor People’s Gambling’

    A simple question — “Why don’t people who play pachinko and bet on horse races just invest in stocks instead?” — touched off a heated debate between the investing camp and the gambling camp on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (“Live News”) board. Some pushed stocks, pointing to the Nikkei’s 26% and 31% annual gains and the gulf between pachinko’s roughly 20% house cut and the near-zero fees of online brokerages. Others shot back with lines like “poor people should stick to poor people’s gambling” and “I’m not trying to climb the social ladder,” revealing that for them gambling was never about profit but the thrill of play itself — leaving the two sides talking past each other.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:31
    Are you stupid?
    Why would you deliberately do something with such a low expected value?
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:33
    Found the genius who thinks investing and gambling are the same thing.
    Anyone with real money obviously already invests, this comes up every single time.
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:34
    Re: #7
    Investing is gambling too, dude.
    Only the expected value is different.
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:34
    Because hitting a 1.1x payout on a place bet (fukushō, betting a horse to finish top 3) is faster than waiting for a stock to climb 10%.
    16AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:36
    Re: #11
    Even large-cap stocks have been popping 10% easily lately.
    Miss a place bet and your ticket's worthless paper.
    With stocks, even if you're wrong, waiting it out can turn things around into a profit.
    13AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:34
    Well, obviously — don't knock it, be grateful for the government's tax revenue.
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:38
    Re: #13
    So idiots end up paying both the "pachinko tax" and an "inflation tax" for not investing in stocks?
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:35
    If you try to win and lose at the same rate you would gambling,
    stocks actually leave you worse off than horse racing or pachinko.
    20AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:38
    Re: #14
    Huh? No they don't.
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:38
    A real gambler bets on the shot at turning 10,000 yen into 15x in two minutes, even if that same 10,000 yen is guaranteed to double in a year some other way. Wimps (the poster used a crude anti-gay slur) can go do stocks instead.
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:41
    Re: #19
    Day-trade on full margin and stocks can multiply many times over in one shot too, you know.
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:38
    The fun is picking it yourself, playing it yourself, and feeling the win or the loss.
    That's just a different thing from stocks.
    28AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:42
    Re: #21
    You can pick your own individual stocks too, though.
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:43
    Re: #20
    Stocks' edge basically comes down to the fact that share prices keep going up over the long run.
    In pachinko terms, it's like the payout rate being set above 4 yen per ball —
    actually sitting there racking up balls is a whole separate issue.
    39AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:47
    Re: #32
    For starters, the house cut is totally different.
    Pachinko parlors skim about 20%, so bet 100 yen and you only get 80 back on average.

    With stocks, online brokerages barely charge fees, so the "house" takes almost nothing.
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:46
    Because horse racing's annual return rate is positive.
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:50
    Re: #38
    Of course it's positive.
    The Nikkei was up 26% last year and 31% this year.
    Just buying a boring old ETF gets you gains like that.
    People who bought Kioxia made dozens of times their money.
    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:23
    Re: #45
    The return rate on the spring G1 races is over 1000%, though.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:51
    Re: #44
    What, got a problem with that?
    Then bring an actual counterargument.
    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:53
    Re: #47
    Well sure, if you want to believe stocks aren't skimming a cut off you, go right ahead.
    They work hard to make you think that.
    48AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:52
    With horse racing you never know how much you could lose.
    With pachinko, even on a brutal day you're only out a bit over 100,000 yen, so it's still playable.
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:53
    Re: #48
    You already know this — neither horse racing nor stocks can cost you more than what you staked.
    52AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:55
    "Expected value" lol.
    Spoken like someone who's never actually traded stocks (a classic "airprei," 5ch slang for talking big about something you've never actually done).
    56AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:56
    Re: #52
    The only gambling where you can actually pin down a fixed number like that is slots, since there's no chaos factor involved.
    57AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:56
    Re: #52
    Expected value is the basic foundation of every kind of gambling.
    Not understanding that just makes you an idiot and easy prey 🦆
    54AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:55
    Anyway, there's no point fighting at the same table as filthy-rich people you can't even fathom.
    Poor people should just stick to poor people's gambling.
    Acting rich doesn't make you rich.
    61AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:58
    Re: #54
    Stocks actually give poor people a better shot at climbing up in the world — so why go out of your way to play pachinko or bet on horses instead?
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:58
    Re: #61
    I'm not climbing anywhere.
    That was never the goal to begin with.
    67AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:00
    Re: #61
    Even with stocks you're not climbing up in the world.
    55AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:55
    The whole process is way too much of a hassle.
    You can't just pop in and be done in two minutes like at the pachinko parlor.
    63AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:58
    Re: #55
    Once you've got an account set up, buying and selling is easy.
    58AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:57
    If there were a place like a pachinko parlor or a betting shop where I could just walk in with cash, buy some stock, see the result, and walk right back out, I'd go every single day.
    68AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:00
    Re: #58
    With stocks you don't even need to go anywhere — you can do it from home, or honestly anywhere, anytime, right on your phone.
    59AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:57
    Looks to me like you're just riding high because the market happens to be good right now.
    No different from a pachinko addict (pachinkasu, mocking slang for pachinko junkies) celebrating after hitting a lucky trigger.
    65AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:59
    Re: #59
    Nope.
    This is a major bull run that's going to last for decades.
    Japan has entered an era of inflation, so skip stocks and you'll just get hit with an inflation tax.
    69AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:01
    Probably because just watching a number go up and down isn't any fun.
    71AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:02
    Re: #69
    It's incredibly fun, actually.
    The dopamine hits are insane.
    75AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:05
    Re: #69
    Maybe someone should build a dedicated trading app with flashy pachinko-style animations for people like that.
    90AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:24
    You shouldn't go around recommending investing to people.
    Let's just sit back and enjoy watching what happens to the people who stubbornly refuse to touch stocks.
    92AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:27
    Re: #90
    But isn't investing something the government itself recommends?
    97AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:31
    Re: #92
    That's beside the point.

    A true gambler owns everything that happens to them.
    98AnonymousAug 22, 2026 22:31
    Re: #92
    If you don't invest, you're finished.
    Which is exactly why it's more fun not to recommend it.

    Background and Key Points

    Pachinko occupies a strange legal space in Japan: outright gambling for cash is illegal, so parlors pay out steel balls that players exchange for prizes at a separate counter, a loophole that lets an industry estimated to move tens of trillions of yen a year operate openly. Horse racing, by contrast, is legal parimutuel betting run by the Japan Racing Association, with takeout rates (the house’s cut) typically in the 20-30% range depending on bet type. Both stand in sharp contrast to the stock market, where the Nikkei 225’s back-to-back 20%+ gains and Japan’s post-2024 shift into a mild-inflation, negative-real-rate environment have made “put your money in an index fund instead” a mainstream talking point, amplified by the government’s own tax-free NISA investment scheme aimed at exactly this kind of household saver.

    The thread didn’t actually split over math — nobody seriously disputed that stocks carry a better expected value than pachinko or horse betting. It split over what the money is for. The investing camp treated gambling as a suboptimal wealth-building tool; the gambling camp insisted they were never trying to build wealth, they were paying for two minutes of dopamine, and measuring that against a fund’s expected value misses the point entirely.

    What’s conspicuously absent is any mention of NISA by name, even though it’s the government program built precisely to nudge small-time gamblers into the market — several posters gesture at “the government wants you to invest” without naming the actual policy vehicle for it.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Why don’t people who play pachinko and bet on horse races just invest in stocks?.”

  • DeNA’s Fujinami Demoted to Minors After Wild Outing — Control Woes and Dropping Velocity Take Their Toll

    DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami made his first appearance in a month against the Yomiuri Giants on August 20, but the outing fell apart: he lasted only into the 3rd inning, giving up 4 hits and 3 runs before being pulled, and his demotion to the minors soon followed. On 5ch, opinions clashed head-on over the cause of his control problems — some blame lingering damage from being overworked under manager Tomoaki Kanemoto during his Hanshin days, when he was forced to throw over 160 pitches in a game, while others say it simply comes down to a lack of ability.

    DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami falls apart in first start in a month… heading to the minors. Is he now at risk of being “left out of next season’s plans”?

    In a game where the team was going for a series sweep, it turned into a betrayal on the mound. DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami was knocked out on August 20, 2026 against the Giants after just 2⅓ innings, giving up 4 hits and 3 runs — his shortest outing of the season. He also struggled with his ongoing control issues, walking 4 batters.

    ■ “Right now, Fujinami’s control isn’t the only unstable thing…”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:29
    If only he'd found a good coach
    Makes you wonder — what if he'd gotten one of the Giants' miracle-worker coaches
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:35
    Re: #2
    That "miracle-worker" coach
    was actually Hanshin's pitching coach back when Fujinami was there
    11AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:34
    Old Showa-era logic says hand him off to someone like Yoshinori Sato
    Have him throw 300 pitches in the bullpen
    Last resort
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:36
    Re: #11
    Wasn't he already put through something close to that back in his Hanshin days?
    19AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:40
    Re: #14
    Don't know about that, just saying do it now
    24AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:44
    Re: #19
    You think his control problems just started recently or something?
    26AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:45
    They keep calling it his "back against the wall," but he's been there for ages now. He shows no sense of urgency himself, and everyone around him coddles him way too much
    33AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:47
    Re: #26
    More like he's neck-deep in the water by now
    41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:57
    It's because Kanemoto made him throw 160 pitches
    He had a career path similar to Matsuzaka and Tanaka going back to high school, and year 4 as a pro is when accumulated fatigue tends to tank a guy's numbers
    But Kanemoto threw a tantrum and pushed him too hard anyway, and that's what finished him
    54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:08
    Re: #41
    Kanemoto had become a washed-up player, and Toritani used to bail him out by shifting position for him
    Then once Kanemoto became manager, when Toritani made an error he flew into a rage
    and after that, when the team gave up a run, he kicked over a chair
    https://www.sanspo.com/article/20160518-4BZJUFP7YJNMLF5KI7ACSUFHXI/
    In his final year, with the team in last place, fans outside the hotel shouted
    "Kanemoto, quit!" and he lost it at them
    https://youtu.be/eVNz9pvtNo0
    Guy's got a hair-trigger temper
    56AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:09
    Re: #41
    Nah, that's not it
    Year 4 is just when the savings built up from his brutal high school training finally ran out
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:02
    If there were an AI that could fix Fujinami, Kenta Kozono wouldn't be in the sorry state he's in now either
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:05
    Re: #45
    In his case, isn't it just that he's got too much on his mind to focus on the game?
    51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:05
    Kanemoto's the one to blame
    though the diehard "Are" fans (Hanshin fans, after the team's 2023 pennant code-word) will show up to deny it
    59AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:11
    Re: #51
    Kanemoto's the one who broke him mentally and delivered the finishing blow, but the shoulder and back injuries and the aimless mechanics overhauls that followed are on the coaching staff and on Fujinami himself
    61AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:12
    Re: #51
    That says it all
    58AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:11
    Re: #56
    His stats improved every year through his third pro season
    Same pattern as Matsuzaka and Tanaka
    63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:14
    Re: #58
    Did you actually look at his third-year stats?
    64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:16
    It's not just the 160-pitch game
    He was pushed hard all season despite not being at full strength from accumulated fatigue
    He threw the second-most pitches in the Central League that season
    Only Messenger threw more, so Fujinami led all Japanese pitchers

    See, this is exactly the kind of thing the "Are" fans show up to deny
    69AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:20
    Re: #64
    And so what, honestly
    He kept pitching, so he's not "broken"
    It's a technical issue
    71AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:26
    Re: #69
    You just don't get the concept of pitcher wear and tear
    Even if it were a technical issue, all he did was decline through Kanemoto's three years
    Kanemoto's to blame, he bears the responsibility
    73AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:31
    Re: #71
    2016: 169 innings
    2017: 59 innings
    2018: 71 innings

    So under the Kanemoto regime he barely pitched at all by the end
    He fell off on his own
    72AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:30
    I watched the game where they let him throw 161 pitches, and honestly, from Kanemoto's side it was the kind of game where you'd want to keep him out there. Fujinami was pitching just that pathetically.
    74AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:32
    Re: #72
    It'd be a different story if they'd kept in mind that, following the Matsuzaka/Tanaka pattern, fatigue might tank his numbers
    Instead they told him to go win 19 games — expectations were way too high
    75AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:34
    Re: #73
    "Barely pitched" just means he wasn't good enough to use in the majors anymore
    That's how far he'd fallen
    76AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:36
    Re: #75
    Blaming Kanemoto for him never recovering after that is ridiculous
    It's a lack of ability
    79AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:39
    Re: #76
    "Lack of ability"? He improved steadily through his third pro year, all the way up to Sawamura Award contention

    By that logic, was Chunichi's Asao's short career due to lack of ability, or just overconfidence?
    81AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:41
    Re: #79
    He just never got his mechanics back, right?
    Blaming that on someone else makes no sense
    Did someone force a mechanics overhaul on him? Never heard that
    84AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:44
    Re: #81
    No matter how much you insist, it doesn't change the fact that he broke Fujinami and the team ended up in last place
    94AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:58
    Re: #84
    He didn't "break" him
    Sometimes a subtle mechanical glitch just never gets fixed
    Look at Chunichi's Takahashi, he fell apart too
    Especially common with players straight out of high school
    96AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:01
    They should just bring back his high school training regimen
    102AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:07
    Re: #96
    Apparently, compared to his days at Osaka Toin, pro baseball training was easy for Fujinami
    99AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:06
    Re: #94
    Takahashi's just having an off year, there's a good chance he bounces back next year and beyond
    101AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:07
    Re: #99
    Same goes for Fujinami then
    People kept saying it was just a minor glitch since he was still hitting 150+ km/h
    He even had an MLB contract on the table
    103AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:10
    Re: #101
    Fujinami could've bounced back too if he hadn't been overworked in year four
    The fact he hasn't performed well since is proof he got broken
    104AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:11
    Re: #103
    If anything, his velocity kept going up though
    105AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:13
    Age-related decline is a big factor. This is the bill coming due for being overworked when he was young
    107AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:17
    Re: #105
    He's been wild since his Hanshin days

    Background and Key Points

    Shintaro Fujinami was once considered one of Japan’s premier pitching prospects, a hard-throwing right-hander out of Osaka Toin High School who joined the Hanshin Tigers in 2013 and, by his third pro season, was in Sawamura Award contention (Japan’s equivalent of the Cy Young). Under manager Tomoaki Kanemoto, Fujinami was pushed to a 161-pitch outing and led all Japanese-born pitchers in innings that year; his performance collapsed almost immediately afterward, and by 2018 he had been reduced to a fringe roster arm. He later signed an MLB contract, pitching for the Orioles and Athletics before returning to NPB with DeNA. That history is what makes his August 20, 2026 disaster start against the Yomiuri Giants — pulled after 2⅓ innings, four walks, three runs — read as a recurring pattern rather than an isolated bad night.

    The thread split cleanly on causation: one camp treats the 161-pitch game and the Matsuzaka/Tanaka-style “fourth-year fatigue” pattern as the root cause, with Kanemoto’s temper (documented incidents of him throwing chairs and berating fans) cited as corroborating evidence of poor man-management; the other camp points to hard innings/workload data showing Fujinami actually pitched very little under Kanemoto afterward (59 and 71 innings), arguing this proves talent erosion rather than abuse, and that his velocity has stayed strong for years, meaning it’s a mechanical or “lack of ability” issue, not physical breakdown.

    What neither side raises: Fujinami’s control problems predate the Kanemoto-era workload entirely — he was already known for wildness in high school and his rookie years — meaning both “overwork” and “pure decline” framings may be overstating a fixable single cause for what has always been an inconsistent delivery.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Baseball] DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami falls apart in first start in a month… demoted to minors, control issues persist and fastball velocity drops. Is he now at risk of being “left out of next season’s plans”?“