“The music you listened to at 17 carries the deepest meaning of your entire life” — an article from Nazology introducing this survey result went viral on 5ch’s Science News+ board. The finding is rooted in what psychologists call the “reminiscence bump,” the tendency for memories from adolescence and young adulthood to stick especially strongly. The thread quickly filled with pushback on the age itself (“17 is too late,” “more like around 14”), along with skepticism toward the methodology itself (“they only surveyed people 16 and older,” “isn’t a memory-based survey bound to be inaccurate?”). At the same time, plenty of posters shared their own nostalgic memories of songs they discovered around age 17.
“The music you heard at 17” carries the deepest meaning in your life
Have you ever had the experience of hearing a song you listened to obsessively in your youth, and having the scenes from back then vividly come flooding back the instant you heard it?
In psychology, personal memories are known to skew heavily toward adolescence and young adulthood — a phenomenon called the “reminiscence bump.”
Source: nazology.kusuguru.co.jp / Read the original article here
All the various Western music I listened to in my 20s, I still listen to now.
There's memorable music from kindergarten and elementary school too.
Feels like this is just pandering to some Western preconception.
'The Times They Are a-Changin'' at 17,
I wouldn't be the guy who moved to Tokyo and started a business today.
I got more into music, and started actually following it, after turning 20.
AI-industry papers lately are so sloppy with data it's basically reading like Monthly Mu (note: a Japanese occult/paranormal magazine).
Without accurate age verification from streaming data, I can't trust this.
and there are probably people who only got into music after turning 60.
Maurice White, why did you have to go…
— that's what the article says, so individual exceptions don't really mean much.
For what it's worth, personally I'm in heavy rotation pretty evenly across every age range, from childhood to now.
Now that I'm older, I prefer the Barry Gray soundtracks for Stingray and Thunderbirds that I listened to when I was even younger.
I wonder if I get even older, will it end up being nursery rhymes?
I think your sensibility is already formed by that point.
I'd guess it's more like around 14.
The question was supposed to be about turning points in life, so the whole premise is all over the place.
When I was 14:
YMO's 'BGM' (album)
Best Hit USA started airing
Ryuichi Sakamoto's Sound Street started airing
(and Beat Takeshi's All Night Nippon)
Pretty much checks out.
A bit of Carol too,
and stuff like Kazemachi Roman (the Happy End album).
My favorite songs are the ones from when I was 14 to 27.
Fake data that excluded kids from the start.
so what happens with a song from 199 years ago?
That lines up with neuroscience research too.
Back in high school, one of Tunnels' TV shows had a segment called 'Soul Tunnels'
where regular participants danced along to '70s disco and soul.
It was packed with Black music and dance music, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
After turning 20 I started buying all kinds of Western CDs at Tower Records, but it was almost entirely Black music and dance music
— I listened to jazz, funk, hip-hop, house, techno, Latin, and so on.
I feel like I was pretty heavily influenced by it.
But thinking about it now, maybe I was influenced by songs I heard even earlier, as a kid.
Back in elementary school they were rerunning Journey to the West, and I loved Godiego's 'Monkey Magic.'
That song has a real funk vibe to it.
Maybe it's because I got doused in funk by Monkey Magic that 'Soul Tunnels' hit me so hard.
so there's no one thing that really stands out.
Other than that, Ralph Towner, Egberto Gismonti, Bill Frisell, Iannis Xenakis, Olivier Messiaen, stuff like that…
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
The reminiscence bump has long been recognized in psychology as the phenomenon where, when people look back on their lives in old age, memories from their late teens through early twenties are recalled disproportionately often — a pattern confirmed repeatedly in research on music and autobiographical memory. The survey cited in the thread covered roughly 2,000 people worldwide, and according to post 13, the median age came out to 17. However, the survey appears to have only included respondents aged 16 and up, meaning it was designed in a way that couldn’t capture anyone citing songs from early childhood in the first place — a real weakness that several posters in the thread pointed out. It’s also worth noting that this kind of survey relies on self-reported, memory-based data, and the very nature of the reminiscence bump — which makes people prone to romanticizing their youth when answering — may itself be reinforcing the results.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Nazology] ‘Music heard at 17’ carries the deepest meaning in life.”
