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The story
A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board kicked off when a poster, 176cm tall and weighing 96kg, asked for advice: “I want to get down to 70kg, but I don’t want to do strength training.” Other posters quickly countered that walking and calorie management mattered more than lifting, and when the poster described his McDonald’s lunch — a Samurai Mac set, a Qoo white grape drink, and a large fries — other users calculated that the meal alone came to roughly 1,300 calories, eating up most of the 1,800-calorie daily target he’d been given. The poster bristled at having his diet questioned, and at one point was even told to just get on Mounjaro. The thread split between those arguing strength training is unnecessary and those debating how much of the poster’s self-reported eating habits to actually believe.
What people said
Strength training doesn't really matter much, it's calorie management and walking
Just eat three normal meals and cut out snacks and sugary drinks
I'm not eating that much
How do you even live like that?
Work from home?
LMAO that's insane
So how much is it then?
Three meals a day plus one ice cream every day
You do realize ice cream isn't great for a diet, right? 🤔
What do the meals actually consist of?
What do you do when you get a craving for ice cream?
Why not just freeze some fruit and eat that instead?
Ever heard of the word "self-control"?
I went from 180cm/98kg down to 70kg, losing about 1.5kg a month, and I've kept it off
Never rebounded once, and it wasn't even painful — my whole lifestyle just changed
It's a super simple method I came up with myself, which is exactly why I don't want to share it
Fine, forget it then
Well, it's obviously a lie lol
The Samurai Mac set, a Qoo white grape drink, and a large fries
That alone is about 1,300 calories, no wonder you're gaining weight
Calorie-wise that's basically two normal meals for a regular person
That's different every day, isn't it?
You can at least tell us roughly how much, right?
Like, breakfast is one slice of bread with no jam or butter, plus coffee, or whatever.
Dude, you're supposed to keep it to 1,800kcal a day — if lunch alone is 1,300, what are you even gonna do for the other two meals? lol
I barely even eat McDonald's though
I asked "what are you gonna do about it?" lol
Anyone who upgrades their Mac set to large fries is already blowing their calorie budget no matter where they eat
So will you at least admit your eating habits are the problem first?
Hey now
Quit talking like it's somehow my fault that I'm fat
It literally is your fault lol
And there it is — he just outed himself as a troll
Yeah, that's probably the only option left
I don't think he can get it since he's not technically obese — how does that work?
It's all about mindset, right?
This guy's falling apart lol
Pretty sure the problem here is upstairs
Background and Key Points of the Debate
The “1,800kcal/day” figure that came up in the thread is a commonly used benchmark for weight loss, set several hundred calories below the energy expenditure of a typical adult man. McDonald’s Samurai Mac set plus a large fries can easily exceed 1,000 calories on its own, so the calculation that lunch alone eats up most of the daily target is reasonable. Mounjaro (tirzepatide) was originally developed as a diabetes medication, and in Japan, prescribing it for obesity treatment requires meeting certain criteria such as BMI thresholds — which is likely the context behind the comment that the poster “can’t get it since he’s not obese.” Opinions in the thread split over two points: whether strength training is even necessary (one camp insisted it’s pointless and that walking is enough, with counterarguments fizzling out), and how much to trust the poster’s self-reported food intake. Since the poster couldn’t give specifics about his meals, he kept facing suspicion that he wasn’t actually managing his calories at all.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Tragic] Dieting Is Seriously Hard wwwwwwwwwwwwwww“.
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