Kiyoshi Nakahata Has a Request for New Manager Matsui: ‘Let Me Help Out Too!’

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Former Giants player Kiyoshi Nakahata’s remark on TV Asahi’s “Shinichi Hatori Morning Show” — telling new Giants manager Hideki Matsui, “If you’re coming back to the field, let me help out too!” — has become a hot topic on 5ch. Nakahata and Matsui have known each other since Matsui’s playing days, and the thread shared anecdotes backing up their mentor-student relationship, including stories about special batting sessions at Nakahata’s house. Opinions split over whether to take the remark as “classic Nakahata humor” or as “an old-guard OB who can’t resist butting in,” with some pointing out that whether you find it funny or not depends a lot on your generation.

Kiyoshi Nakahata to New Giants Manager Hideki Matsui: “If You’re Coming Back to the Field, Let Me Help Out Too” – Entertainment: Nikkan Sports

October 26, 2026, 12:06 PM

Former Giants player Kiyoshi Nakahata (72) appeared on TV Asahi’s “Shinichi Hatori Morning Show” (weekdays, 8 AM) on the 26th, where he had a request for Hideki Matsui, newly installed as Giants manager.

Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 26, 2026 12:56
Watching Showa-retro exploration videos beats watching the Peace-kun mascot at Omiya Park on YouTube any day.
4AnonymousOct 26, 2026 12:57
If you actually watch how he talks normally, you can tell this is just classic Nakahata joking around.
11AnonymousOct 26, 2026 12:59
Re: #4
You don't even need to watch that — any normal person could tell just from the one-line thread title.
37AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:09
Re: #11
I don't even know who counts as a 'normal person' anymore.
119AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:08
Re: #11
These days jumping to complain about everything is the norm, so wouldn't it actually be the minority who'd take it that way?
10AnonymousOct 26, 2026 12:59
Nakahata's a guy who could go toe-to-toe with even Oh — so this isn't necessarily bad. It won't just turn into a cozy old-boys' club.
12AnonymousOct 26, 2026 12:59
Might as well make him general manager at this point.
23AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:04
Re: #12

That's going too far — it's not that serious.
13AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:00
It's like having Kozo Kawafuji join the Tigers' coaching staff (a beloved, larger-than-life Tigers old boy).
15AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:01
I can already picture him showing up at camp and getting a cold shoulder.
17AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:02
Matsui and Takahashi (Yoshinobu) aren't the types who can play the heavy or the bad guy, so you do need someone who can fill that role.
19AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:03
Nakahata can play the fool, but it's rough on the idiots who take him seriously.
69AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:25
Re: #19
What are you even saying, in this era of total cynicism?
21AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:04
Funny how Hara gets bashed but this guy — the actual root of it all — never does.
24AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:04
He's one of the few people Matsui really lets his guard down with. Murata Yoshi is another.
108AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:00
Re: #24
A Tokyo Sports (Tosupo) reporter.
29AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:06
Matsui and Yoshinobu (Takahashi) both seem like the gloomy type, so having a cheerful guy like Nakahata around might help.
95AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:48
Re: #29
Wait… Nakahata, cheerful?
31AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:07
Taking a joke seriously is about the most embarrassing thing you can do.
57AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:16
Re: #31
You, thinking this isn't a joke, are pretty messed up too.
56AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:15
With crappy old-boy seniors butting in like this, being Giants manager is rough work.
60AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:20
Re: #56
The Tigers have it even worse, media included, so Fujikawa shut all of that out completely. The question is whether Matsui can pull off the same.
61AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:21
In his first year as a pro, Matsui would ride with Motoki driving to Nakahata's house, getting special batting drills from Nakahata almost every day.
Apparently Nakahata's wife took a big liking to Matsui too — she'd cook him a feast after every practice, and Matsui reportedly looked forward to eating her home cooking.
After Mrs. Nakahata passed away, Nakahata — then manager of the Yokohama BayStars — asked Matsui to come coach the team's young players on a temporary basis.
Matsui told reporters at the time: "I never really owed Mr. Nakahata anything, but his wife took great care of me when I was young. Today I was able to repay that debt."
68AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:25
Re: #61
That's a great story. No wonder he's close with Nakahata.
72AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:27
Impressive that at 72 he still has the drive to want to keep working.
103AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:53
Re: #72
Koji Yamamoto is probably quite a bit older than Nakahata. On top of that, he apparently had major cancer surgery recently — and about a year or two after that, in a YouTube appearance, when asked "Would you take the job if the Carp asked you to manage again?" he immediately said yes, which was surprising.

Right after major surgery, I figured there was no way the Carp would actually ask him to manage.

(The above was right around the time of the 'zombie' Carp fuss — he might turn it down now, lol.)
77AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:33
Apparently the reply was: "I understand. I will definitely return to the field. Mr. Nakahata, please stay on as OB Association chairman until then."

Surprised Nakahata didn't let this slip sooner — I always figured he was the loose-lipped type.
91AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:47
Re: #77
Nah, he did let it slip, as usual — it was even reported in an article.
86AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:41
Kiyoshi's a total Showa-era old man, but the 'hated old-guard geezer' side that young people usually despise seems pretty muted in his case — if anything, plenty of people don't seem to dislike him.
There might be a hint here about how old men should carry themselves.
Maybe being socially strong and able to let yourself look like a fool — that cheerful extrovert type — really is the strongest move in the end.
93AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:47
Re: #86
Young people today genuinely don't find this kind of thing funny at all.
102AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:52
Re: #86
That's true. Having charm instead of a scowl scores him points. And the fact that not a single player or fan actually respects Nakahata is itself part of why he feels so approachable.
92AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:47
Maybe Matsui didn't want Nagashima butting in, so he was planning to wait until Nagashima passed before taking the job. If even Nakahata is chiming in like this, Nagashima would be on a whole different level.
114AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:06
Re: #92
It's Watanabe ('Nabetsune'), surely.
100AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:51
There are people out there who literally can't tell it's a joke unless you slap a '(lol)' on it.
111AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:03
Re: #100
Still, a lot of the time a joke or a bit of sarcasm just doesn't land because the person saying it isn't expressing it well. You often see people claim 'it's scary that someone can't tell sarcasm is sarcasm,' but blaming the listener that hard is its own kind of scary. As for Matsui and Nakahata's exchange, if you know their relationship, you can tell it's a joke.
106AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:58
Noisy old boys are the Giants' real weak point.
107AnonymousOct 26, 2026 13:59
Re: #106
Maybe Matsui's best quality is that he doesn't care about any of that at all. Nakahata's basically half like one of his underlings anyway.
116AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:07
Wasn't planning to watch, but Nakahata's stories were so entertaining I ended up watching the whole segment. The guy's got energy.
117AnonymousOct 26, 2026 14:07
Re: #116
You could call him the original Yasutaro Matsuki (the excitable ex-footballer-turned-commentator famous for his over-the-top calls).

Background and Key Points of This Topic

Kiyoshi Nakahata is a former Yokohama (Taiyo) player and manager who currently holds a position roughly equivalent to chairman of the Giants’ OB (alumni) association. During his playing days, Hideki Matsui used to visit Nakahata’s home for special batting practice, and the thread also shared reminiscences about Nakahata’s late wife. This “let me help” remark is being read as a lighthearted jab rooted in that mentor-student history, and coverage of the appearance also noted that Matsui responded by promising, “I will definitely return to the field.” Where the thread split was over whether to take the remark as “classic Nakahata humor” or, taken at face value, as “an old-guard OB imposing himself.” Nakahata is a Showa-era TV personality known for self-deprecating jokes and comic bits, which can easily read as plain meddling to viewers unfamiliar with his usual shtick. At the same time, some commenters noted that “younger generations don’t find this kind of joke funny at all,” making the generational gap in how it’s received a central thread of the discussion.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisuto Sokuho+) thread “[TV] Kiyoshi Nakahata to New Giants Manager Hideki Matsui: “If You’re Coming Back to the Field, Let Me Help Out Too”.”

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