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In Matchday 3 of the UEFA Champions League league phase, Manchester United suffered a crushing 1-4 defeat to Como, who are making their first-ever CL appearance this season. The match got off to a brutal start, conceding the opener just two minutes in, extending United’s winless run in official matches to seven games. On 5ch forum threads, opinions split between those blaming the exodus of key players for the team’s collapse after last season’s strong form, and those arguing that grueling fixtures — barely surviving back-to-back battles with Man City and Arsenal on just six days’ rest — made this season’s fatigue in a congested schedule inevitable. Fans who remember United’s glory days lamented, “They’ve been weak ever since Ferguson left.”
Matchday 3 of the UEFA Champions League (UCL) league phase saw Como (Italy) take on Manchester United (England) on the 21st local time, with United falling 1-4. The loss extended their winless streak in official matches to seven in a row, as Michael Carrick’s side continues to struggle.
Stuck in a seven-game winless rut
United had gone winless in their last six official matches (three draws, three losses) and were hoping to turn things around away at Como, who are appearing in the Champions League for the first time this season. But the comeback bid was snuffed out almost immediately — in the 2nd minute, Como midfielder Nico Paz fired in a left-footed shot from the right side to put the hosts ahead. United continued to struggle against the organized pressing and attacking play of Cesc Fàbregas’s side for the rest of the half, unable to create meaningful chances before the break.
Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here
What people said
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Haven't won in over a month?
The Manchester clubs — one cheats, the other's just weak
You can't judge a manager's ability until they've had a full season in charge
Who's next, I wonder?
so losing to them isn't that surprising
To put that in Japanese terms, that's like kids who just graduated high school playing in the world's top-tier Champions League
it'd be unfair to the Premier League teams they haven't faced yet
Man-Chu
Massively tradition-obsessed! Back in the day they were insanely strong under a charismatic manager! These days the front office keeps fumbling and they're treated as a laughingstock! Even when they can't win, the stadium's always packed!
(´・ω・｀) The Dragons = Manchester United. Q.E.D.
https://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/854882?page=1
This article's from four years ago
They might actually become one of Italy's top clubs starting from here
the cheating one and the weak one
still seem more likely to win a title before Man United do (´・ω・｀)
Man, that's a throwback. Didn't even know the team was still around.
his team plays with real flair
That Nico Paz kid's good — is he the one inheriting Messi's No. 10?
It's unfair pitting clubs that get to focus purely on their domestic league with six days' rest between games against clubs playing twice a week and flying all over Europe
they were actually pretty strong.
Why have they gotten this bad this year?
Is losing Casemiro really the only difference?
They just rode a wave of momentum from beating a City and Arsenal who were already exhausted from Champions League games — and they had six days' rest the whole time doing it. I figured they'd absolutely hit a slump once they had to juggle CL fixtures too this season.
You're off by a zero
Isn't it more famous as the place where Mussolini met his end?
Have they been bad ever since Alex Ferguson left?
They've been weak ever since Moyes
Ferguson was already losing it by that point
If you'd asked people back then to name the best British manager getting the best results at the time, a lot of people would've said Moyes
It's easy to judge with hindsight
He managed a local club, lost constantly, and bailed (lol)
Background and Key Points of Debate
The recurring jab about “cheating” in the thread is a familiar reference to Manchester City’s unresolved case involving numerous alleged breaches of financial regulations — worth noting that this remains unproven, not an established fact. Como, meanwhile, is a resurgent club that successfully restructured financially and returned to Serie A in recent years, with this match marking their long-awaited Champions League debut. The thread’s debate splits between the theory that United’s collapse stems from losing a key defensive player and the theory that fixture congestion and fatigue are to blame — but both are speculation after the fact, and it’s hard to say which factor is decisive until more of the season plays out.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread “[Football CL] Man United crushed, concede 4 to Como — mired in a 7-game winless streak in official matches… overwhelmed by CL debutant club.”
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