1 Million Savers Blow Past Japan Post Bank’s ¥13 Million Cap — Private Banks Fume Over Push to Scrap It: ‘That’s Basically a State Bank’

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Japan Post Bank caps its ordinary savings accounts at ¥13 million, and the number of customers nationwide who have gone over that limit has now reached roughly 1 million. Since the ¥9.7 trillion in excess deposits earns no interest at all, Japan Post Bank has asked the government to scrap the cap. Private banks, however, are pushing back hard, arguing it would strip away the deposits their whole business model relies on. Because the government holds a stake in Japan Post Holdings, the cap has historically existed to stop an implicit government guarantee from distorting competition — so whether to remove it is anything but a simple call. On 5ch, the thread ranged widely: debate over whether Japan Post Bank is effectively state-run, questions (and answers) about why it even wants the cap lifted, and speculation over where the oddly specific ¥13 million figure came from.

The number of Japan Post Bank customers exceeding the ¥13 million cap on ordinary savings accounts (roughly equivalent to a regular deposit account) has reached 1 million. The ¥9.7 trillion in excess deposits earns no interest, putting customers at a disadvantage. The bank has asked the government to remove the cap. Private financial institutions, which compete fiercely for the deposits their businesses are built on, are pushing back hard, calling it an unfair encroachment on private business.

The government holds a stake in Japan Post Holdings, Japan Post Bank’s parent company. Regulations exist precisely so an implicit government guarantee doesn’t distort the competitive landscape. The savings cap was set by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications and the Financial Services Agency…(continued in the paid edition, 1,408 characters remaining)

Nikkei, October 20, 2026, 2:00 AM

Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

What people said

7AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:38
>The government holds a stake in Japan Post Holdings, Japan Post Bank's parent company.

That's basically a state bank.
72AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:11
Re: #7
Like the old phone monopoly or the national railway — still basically state-run, just with a private-sector coat of paint.
8AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:38
I mean, interest these days might as well not exist anyway 😡
157AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:46
Re: #8
Compared to a few years ago,
it's actually gotten decent.

With ¥10 million even in a regular savings account
you get about ¥50,000 a year in interest now.
Used to be like ¥100 a year even on ¥10 million 😭
18AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:47
Honestly the one genuinely useful thing about Japan Post Bank is that there are tons of places to pull out cash with zero fees.
So just keep your money somewhere with a better rate normally, and transfer it over to Japan Post fee-free whenever you actually need cash, no?
105AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:24
Re: #18
Basically using it as a piggy bank for spare change at that point.
23AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:49
Never really thought about Japan Post's cap, but
once you're over ¥10 million you'd just spread it across other banks
or buy government bonds with it.
25AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:51
These are customers who are fine with the excess earning no interest, right?
Why is Japan Post Bank itself so desperate to add interest that it's lobbying the government for it?
If they're that dying to pay out interest, just raise the rate on deposits within the existing limit.
69AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:11
Re: #25
I could argue against that, but there's something to it too.
Looking at the big picture, I end up agreeing with that take.
38AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:56
Private financial institutions are kind of washed up at this point, though
80AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:14
Re: #38
Just split it up and park it at a brokerage or an online bank.
40AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:57
The further out into the countryside you go, the more you appreciate how incredible the postal savings network really is.
Having an ATM even at a post office way out in the middle of nowhere is seriously impressive.
117AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:31
Re: #40
Yeah, even places with no convenience store still have a post office.
45AnonymousOct 20, 2026 07:59
Re: #1

Japan Post Bank is scarier than even Norinchukin Bank (the big agricultural co-op bank that took huge losses).

Japan Post Bank is using your deposits to buy both US Treasuries and Japanese government bonds, so it's taking losses on both fronts at once.
That's why it's cutting staff costs and hiking fees to try to plug the hole.

On top of that, it's making it harder to actually withdraw your own deposits.

If you think 'it's my money, of course I can withdraw it,' go to a post office and try pulling out ¥1 million.
They'll refuse you.
50AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:01
Re: #45
You can withdraw ¥1 million just fine.
Source: me, just did it.
175AnonymousOct 20, 2026 09:00
Re: #45
Lol, here comes the conspiracy-theory uncle.
52AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:02
Having a nationwide network of fee-free ATMs is a huge edge for them, honestly.
Doesn't really feel fair to everyone else, though.
58AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:07
Re: #52
Most of the major city banks are basically free too, except Mizuho.
59AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:07
Re: #52
Keeping that whole ATM network running isn't free either, mind you.
82AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:14
Feels like you could just spread ¥10 million at a time across different banks, but
I guess once you've got that much, juggling that many accounts gets annoying too.
Business funds would just sit in a checking account anyway, so who's actually depositing this much personally?
87AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:16
Re: #82
Once you're elderly, splitting your money across multiple accounts just becomes impossible to manage.
91AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:18
Re: #82
For regional banks ¥10 million is the number to watch, but with the megabanks you don't really need to worry at all.
98AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:21
Re: #82
If you're the type who can park ¥10 million each in megabanks that aren't going to collapse, you'd probably be better off putting the rest into gold or something.
You're not going to spend that much cash anyway — someone like that is probably already rich enough to live off dividends.
83AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:14
Re: #67
Middle-class people aren't holding it in cash lol.
It's either a loan or NISA (Japan's tax-free investment account).
99AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:22
Re: #83
A loan by itself isn't an asset.
It depends what the loan is backing.
If it's real estate, the value might rise down the road —
though it's more likely to fall.
If that's not what you meant, you should've said 'mortgage,' not just 'loan.'
118AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:32
Re: #83
Wait, what? A loan?

Holding assets through NISA?
Guess you don't realize NISA only has a tiny contribution limit.

That's kind of sad.
96AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:20
I just stuck ¥10 million into a 10-year fixed deposit and forgot about it.
Wasn't planning to use it anyway.
100AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:22
Re: #96
Nah, just buy government bonds with it.
102AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:23
Re: #96
If you're not gonna use it, dump it all into the new NISA and buy S&P 500 or an all-world index fund.
119AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:32
I've got ¥20 million parked in Japan Post Bank.
133AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:37
Re: #119
You're throwing away interest on nearly half of that.
Move ¥10 million of it to an online bank and you'd be earning roughly ¥100,000 a year pre-tax.
140AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:40
Re: #133
Well, if it's not already set up, at this point I'd tell my parents online banking isn't worth it either, since the risk of AI-driven attacks just keeps climbing anyway.
150AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:41
Re: #133
My husband dumped the entire inheritance into Japan Post Bank because he's convinced it can never fail.
It's not my money though, so there's not much I can do about it.
126AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:36
Why ¥13 million instead of a clean ¥10 million, I wonder?
134AnonymousOct 20, 2026 08:37
Re: #126
Something like — so that if you've got ¥10 million sitting there and a bonus payment lands, you're still under the cap.
196AnonymousOct 20, 2026 09:15
Re: #126
I recall it used to be ¥10 million quite a while back, so maybe they bumped it up because of inflation?

Background and Key Points of the Debate

The ¥13 million cap on ordinary savings accounts exists under authorization from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications and the Financial Services Agency, specifically to keep the government’s stake in Japan Post Holdings — and the implicit government guarantee that comes with it — from distorting competition with private banks. Behind the push to abolish the cap is Japan Post Bank’s own concern that the low limit keeps it from attracting wealthy depositors’ money, and the thread featured a noticeable back-and-forth between posts questioning that motive and posts explaining it. What’s easy to miss, though, is that this cap only applies to ‘ordinary savings’ accounts on their own — a separate ‘time deposit’ category carries an identical cap, so combining the two effectively allows deposits of up to ¥26 million. The oddly specific ¥13 million figure, meanwhile, is simply the result of a previous ¥10 million cap being raised over time, adjusted along the way to track shifts in prices and interest rates. There’s more nuance here than a simple ‘encroachment on private business’ versus ‘benefit to customers’ framing can capture.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “1 Million Exceed ‘Postal Savings’ Cap — Private Financial Institutions Push Back Against Removal Request.”

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